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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Bombshell tonight in the case against D four v D

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Speaker 2: aka David Anthony Burke a Morgue leak. That's right, the

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Speaker 2: Medical Examiner's Office leak has torpedoed the case against Burke

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Speaker 2: and the Celeste Rivas homicide probe. Tonight, Will the entire

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Speaker 2: case be dropped because of this good evening? I'm Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 2: this is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us.

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Speaker 3: He has ripped her apart and there she sits in

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Speaker 3: this house.

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Speaker 2: He blames the smell of this child's decomposing body on

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Speaker 3: Hell, yet stains this is human remains that are decomposing,

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Speaker 3: a true child, a human be He had.

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Speaker 4: His beard going in his pants, were you know, kind

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Speaker 4: of he was doing that? Look where his pants were

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Speaker 4: dragging below his bum you could say his orange prison pants.

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Speaker 4: He again just seems way more comfortable in court and

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Speaker 4: in this setting now in his prison outfit.

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Speaker 2: Let me understand, does David Anthony Burt aka D four

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Speaker 2: VD actually show his rear end in court? That's from

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Speaker 2: Delight a True Crime on TikTok with me an all

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Speaker 2: star panel very quickly to that Lauren Collins, joining US

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Speaker 2: investigative reporter LA Magazine Star Pop Crime TV. Lauren, you've

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Speaker 2: been covering this extensively. Did he actually show up to

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Speaker 2: court showing his rear end? Well?

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Speaker 5: Per the LA magazine source inside, she did say David

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Speaker 5: appeared very quote relaxed, Nancy, so you can kind of

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Speaker 5: use your imagination there a bit. But his hair was

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Speaker 5: a bit unkempt, he was shackled, and also our reporter

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Speaker 5: said that Blair Burke appeared to be rubbing his back

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Speaker 5: a bit as they kind of laughed and talked, and

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Speaker 5: he even greeted.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, and I'll circle back to that. But

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Speaker 2: my question is does he literally show his in court?

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Speaker 4: He had his beard going in his pants, were you know,

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Speaker 4: kind of he was doing that look where his pants

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Speaker 4: were dragging below his bum, you could say his orange

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Speaker 4: prison pants. He again just seems way more comfortable in

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Speaker 4: court and in this setting now in his prison outfit.

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Speaker 2: Again the like True Crime on TikTok, I've got a

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Speaker 2: lot bigger problems with this case than D four VD.

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Speaker 2: David Anthony Berg literally showing his rear end in court,

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Speaker 2: but very quickly to an esteemed expert trial lawyer Nima Romani,

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Speaker 2: former federal prosecutor turned trial lawyer, former president of the

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Speaker 2: West Coast Trial Lawyers, author of Harvard to hashtag Nima,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us tonight. I've got bigger

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Speaker 2: legal issues, very complex legal issues to discuss with you.

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Speaker 2: But really, showing your ass in court? Really, what are

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Speaker 2: the defense lawyers for? For Pete's sake? Can't they say

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Speaker 2: pull up your pants, idiot?

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Speaker 6: Well they should because your parents in court matters a lot.

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Speaker 6: So I think this is probably going to be the

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Speaker 6: end of it, Nancy. I think David's going to have

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Speaker 6: to understand that if you're going to appare in court,

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Speaker 6: everything matters. There's a reason everyone from Luigi Mangoni to

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Speaker 6: Sean Diddy Combs they wear the same, those sweater vests,

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Speaker 6: those neutral cutters. You don't want to be showing your

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Speaker 6: court in a surefire way to get yourself convicted pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: Let me see Nima RMANI please, Nima, we have a

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Speaker 2: very serious and complex legal issue that has just reared

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Speaker 2: its ugly head for the state. Bombshell tonight torpedo directly

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Speaker 2: into the state's homicide case. And who's going to suffer

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Speaker 2: for this? Celeste, fourteen year old Celeste found decomposing in

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Speaker 2: the trunk of D four VD David Anthony Burks Tesla. Okay,

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Speaker 2: her her, here's the problem. In the last days, we

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Speaker 2: now learn why the LAPD insisted the Morgue be slapped

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Speaker 2: with a gag order. A gag order on the Morgan.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, Nima, I have deep respect for

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Speaker 2: the Medical Examiner's office. They are some of the best

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Speaker 2: They know what they're talking about. And when you get

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Speaker 2: because they will run with the ball. They're brilliant. I

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Speaker 2: And now we know why, hold Nima. For those of

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Speaker 2: in the courtroom out to Dave Matt Crime Stori's investigative reporter,

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Speaker 7: Morgue leak what As we were covering this story in

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Speaker 7: the beginning, there was certain information that was coming out

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Speaker 7: so it has to be somebody is making it up

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Speaker 1: And now we've.

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Speaker 7: Got official notification that employees of the office are now

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Speaker 7: going to be required. We're talking twelve different employees Nancy

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Speaker 7: being required to sit for recorded interviews as the department

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Speaker 7: investigates itself to determine who in this office is and

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Speaker 7: was leaking information about this fourteen year old child and

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, think back, think back. Nima Ramani one

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Speaker 2: of the best in the business. By the way, remember

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Speaker 2: at the beginning, we kept getting information that all these

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Speaker 2: then we were told, well that's not true. That didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: She was not rendered, she was not disarticulated. That's all

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Speaker 2: a lie. Okay, So there was a lot of confusion.

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Speaker 2: Now we know what was happening. According to reports, the

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Speaker 2: Medical Examiner's Office was leaking information, and then the LAPD

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Speaker 2: was quickly saying that's not true, that's not true. It's

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Speaker 2: all true according to the state. Here's the problem. This

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Speaker 2: is not for prurient interest to read in the National

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Speaker 2: Inquirer or or in a tabloid. This is a murder

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Speaker 2: case of a young girl. The Medical Examiner's Office equals

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Speaker 2: the state, and when the state is proven to have

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Speaker 2: done prejudicial wrongdoing to the defendant, the whole case conceivably

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Speaker 6: Nima Nancy. It's a huge problem. And Blair Birk and

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Speaker 6: the defense are going to take this and they're going

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Speaker 6: a court order. So months and months ago, LAPD went

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Speaker 6: judge sided with LAPD and said that this report should

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Speaker 6: not be made public. So, now, if you have members

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Speaker 6: the prosecution is responsible for these employees disseminating information unlawfully

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Speaker 6: going to have a field date with this. They're going

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Speaker 6: do everything they can to get this case dismissed. There

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Speaker 6: can be terminating sanctions, they can be other types of

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Speaker 6: sanctions for the DA's office. Now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: Nima, I'm want to tell you a true story. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I was working on a death penalty case and suddenly

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Speaker 2: I got subpoena to testify in court. Okay, it hadn't

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Speaker 2: gone a trial, obviously, I was stunned. Why would the

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Speaker 2: the judge was looking at me accusing them. I'm like what,

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Speaker 2: And they said, have you withheld evidence? And I said no.

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Speaker 2: I handed over my entire file everything I had, which

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Speaker 2: of course you need to do in a death penalty

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Speaker 2: to be all sorts of appeals. Well, then they handed

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Speaker 2: never seen these. Where did they come from? They came

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Speaker 2: out of the homicide file down at APD Homicide. They

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Speaker 2: The point is, even though the investigator truly inadvertently, because

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Speaker 2: the papers really were not that probative, inadvertently left out

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Speaker 2: those pages, it was still my fault. See, and even

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Speaker 2: though the medical Examiner's office leaked, and that's horrific, that's deadly,

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Speaker 2: it's still the prosecutor's fault eir go. Therefore, prosecution misconduct

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Speaker 2: cases can be dropped for that NEMA dropped, never to

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Speaker 2: be brought back again. It is dropped with prejudice. Now, please,

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Speaker 2: regular people talk, explain what I'm talking about with prejudice.

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Speaker 6: With prejudice means that it can't be refiled. And Nancy,

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Speaker 6: this happens all the time. It's not just you as prosecutors.

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Speaker 6: We are responsible for the government's conduct. And there was

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Speaker 6: Louri Valo Dabel in Idaho because of some discovery violations.

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Speaker 6: Guess what. The judge struck the death penalty in that case,

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Speaker 6: Chad Dabel. He's on death row. Louri Valo is going

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Speaker 6: the prosecution is always responsible for the conduct of government employees,

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now and I met him when he was

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Speaker 2: at the Folding County Medical Examiner's office, which has a

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Speaker 2: huge crush of a case load with me for now.

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Speaker 2: Forensic expert Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University.

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Speaker 2: He's the author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon.

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Speaker 2: He is the star of hit podcast Body Bags with

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Speaker 2: Joseph Scott Morgan. But for our purposes, Joe Scott is

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Speaker 2: a death investigator with over ten thousand investigations under his belt.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain the reverberations that will

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Speaker 2: occur because of the medical Examiner's legal term. You may

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Speaker 2: not be familiar with this f up. It's worse than

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Speaker 2: an ef up because an ef P suggests ooh, I

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Speaker 2: screwed up. Sorry, No, this was an intentional leak providing lurid,

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Speaker 2: upsetting information about a little girl's rendering of her body,

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Speaker 2: the disarticulation of her body in a kiddie pool. A

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Speaker 2: leak of that volatile, incendiary upsetting information for what That

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Speaker 2: leads me to the specter. Did they get paid for

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Speaker 2: right here, look at this thank you control room. Here's

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Speaker 2: shots from our friends at TMZ. That is the garage

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Speaker 6: So obviously there's going to be an investigation here. Now.

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Speaker 2: Name I look at your screen, Look at her, look

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Speaker 6: But disqualification motion for the Das Office. Absolutely. We saw

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Speaker 2: another question to doctor Bethany Marshall joining us renowned psychoanalysts.

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Speaker 2: all that said, doctor Bethy, Why why would you leak

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Speaker 8: Why, you know, Nancy, this is their job. They see

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Speaker 8: Whatever they did. This reminds me of your friend Joan Rivers.

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Speaker 9: LAPD robbery homicide has a great reputation that's been hard

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Speaker 3: It's that simple.

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Speaker 2: It's horrible because they're one of the most respective arms

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Speaker 5: What happened, Yes, Nancy, So everything, finally, after many many delays,

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Speaker 2: Lauren Colin, You're right. Everybody's just getting out of that

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Speaker 2: No more weighty Katie, no whining, no complaining. Both sides

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Speaker 4: So basically the judge, you know, there was an emotion

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's from our new friend at Delight True Crime

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Speaker 2: on TikTok. Just Scott Morgan before I go to Nina

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Speaker 2: Anthony Burke is in court whining that he shackled number one,

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Speaker 2: there's not a jury. You can't have somebody shackled in

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Speaker 2: big medical examiner words. Please gotcha? Yeah, what happened to

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Speaker 3: I've worked multiple cases involving trauma to the liver. It's

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Speaker 3: a slow bleed. I find that very interesting, considering some

432
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Speaker 3: of the language we've heard in the past about this case.

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Speaker 3: To watch her bleed out and this would have not

434
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Speaker 3: been immediate. Okay. Then after that, then after that, he

435
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Speaker 3: disrespects her remains after she is dead and begins to

436
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Speaker 3: render them down. How does he do that, Well, we've

437
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Speaker 3: heard the term saw chainsaw, We've heard all of these

438
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Speaker 3: different things. And then if that's not bad enough, Nancy,

439
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: he takes her body and allegedly and places it into

440
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Speaker 3: this trunk of this vehicle, drives it around, and Nancy,

441
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Speaker 3: what we have heard is that they have used the

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Speaker 3: term they've used the term liquefied. So she's been in

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Speaker 3: this vehicle her remains until literally all of the soft

444
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Speaker 3: tissue has liquefied to the point where it's she's the

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Speaker 3: remains that are still intact. She's floating. She's actually floating

446
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Speaker 3: in her own liquefied tissue. So that's how horrific this is.

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Speaker 3: That's what he did. I don't give a damn about

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Speaker 3: your shackles.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I could put it any better from

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Speaker 2: our friends. In parts eleven.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Nimo Romani. Jumping from Joe Scott's accurate and heartfelt explanation,

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Speaker 2: what is the law on whether a defendant can be shackled?

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Speaker 2: Where prison attire you name it? In a court room?

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Speaker 6: So a criminal offendant can be shackled, certainly, and can

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Speaker 6: wear prison attire, but generally speaking, when a jury is present,

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Speaker 6: they are going to be allowed to wear civilian clothes.

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Speaker 6: It's just too prejudicial when it comes to the shackles.

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Speaker 6: Generally speaking, again it's up to the judge. When a

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Speaker 6: jury is present, they will not be shackled. It is

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Speaker 6: too prejudicial. And of course here in LA we have

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Speaker 6: cameras in the courtroom. Those camera men and women, they

463
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Speaker 6: are instructed to film a criminal defendant shackle So oftentimes

464
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Speaker 6: you won't see them coming into the courtroom because they

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Speaker 6: will be shackled, those shackles will be undone. You'll see

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Speaker 6: La County sheriffs behind the defendant. And only when the

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Speaker 6: shackles are undone will that defendant be allowed to be recorded.

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Speaker 6: Because again we're talking about appellate issues, prejudice to the

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Speaker 6: potential jurors, and this is why the defense.

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Speaker 2: Is play stop place place play stop are you looking

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Speaker 2: at your monitor? Can I see that?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Talk about worried about how he looks. Here's a

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Speaker 2: guy quote dating a little girl he quote met at

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Speaker 2: age eleven wearing I love boobs. Let me see, Nima Romani.

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Speaker 2: So this little girl is ordered up like a pizza

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Speaker 2: by him on an uber to his house. It's just

478
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Speaker 2: like ordering Chinese food. She comes over. I love boobs. Really,

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Speaker 2: and now he's worried about how he looks his clothing.

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Speaker 2: He must not be that worried. He's showing he's a

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Speaker 2: SS in court where his pants pulled down in the bat.

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Speaker 2: But yet they're whining that his shackles a is bad.

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Speaker 2: That's a bad look. Really, do you not see the

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Speaker 2: irony here? Can I spay clearly for you? NeiMa?

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Speaker 6: I do, Nancy. But these are criminal defense lawyers and

486
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Speaker 6: they're gonna push every advantage they have, and one of

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Speaker 6: them is pre trial publicity. That's why this emy leak

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Speaker 6: is a big deal. That's why being filmed in prison,

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Speaker 6: guarb and shackles is a big deal. And that's why

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Speaker 6: judges do everything they can to protect their rights.

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Speaker 2: She's rubbing oil on him. Oh my goodness, he's got

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Speaker 2: somebody to rub oil on you know what? Okay, just okay,

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Speaker 2: Lauren Colin. The case is going forward. The defense claims

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Speaker 2: they're ready with much of bravado. Then they give a

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Speaker 2: little well they say something about but we haven't gotten

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Speaker 2: all the discovery yet. There you go, there's an opening

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Speaker 2: for them right there. Come show time, go time. They're

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Speaker 2: going to say we didn't get all the discovery. They

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Speaker 2: want to appear as if they're ready to go forward,

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Speaker 2: but they're giving themselves an out. Did you hear that?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I definitely think if you listen sort

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Speaker 5: of between the lines, you can pick that up. However,

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Speaker 5: the prosecution stated at the status conference that the defense

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Speaker 5: has everything relevant as to what they would need to

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Speaker 5: make this into a case so they could defend it.

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Speaker 5: They said everything that they need digitally, even all of

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Speaker 5: the written police and detective reports. So I have no

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Speaker 5: doubt here, Nancy, that they are ready to go. They

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Speaker 5: cannot delay this any longer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see what happens. And in the last days,

511
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Speaker 2: new video has emerged of David Anthony Burke apparently driving

512
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Speaker 2: home quote straight up after killing someone who's videoing himself.

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Speaker 10: POV that drive home after straight up killing someone, and

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Speaker 10: as you can see, David reposted it, but shortly after

515
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Speaker 10: she was actually found he went and unreposted it. And

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Speaker 10: I mean, who is this target audience even for for

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Speaker 10: the original post and the fact that he reposted it

518
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Speaker 10: and then what he's being accused of doing is just crazy.

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Speaker 2: That from nehimiwham nine q on TikTok okay, Dave Matt

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Speaker 2: what are they talking about?

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Speaker 6: Nancy?

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Speaker 7: What they're actually dealing with here is not a video

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Speaker 7: created by d four VD, but it is a repost,

524
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Speaker 7: meaning he saw this and he thought it was really

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Speaker 7: great and so he reposted it, which I mean, think

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Speaker 7: about the deliberate nature of that of seeing something somebody

527
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Speaker 7: else has done and he going, I identify with that,

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Speaker 7: I need to share this with all my peeps, which.

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Speaker 3: Is exactly what he did.

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Speaker 7: And I would imagine at some point one of his

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Speaker 7: inner circleing, hey, dude, probably not a good look for you,

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Speaker 7: you know, pull that down, which Burt did, but he

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Speaker 7: reposted it. It's just in thin, I mean, capable of

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Speaker 7: understanding what's going through a man's head that thinks it's

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Speaker 7: okay to do this at any level. But he did it,

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Speaker 7: and then, like everything on the internet, it stays forever.

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Speaker 6: Nancy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand. Am I seeing Matthew McConaughey. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he's so happy that he has been made a

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Speaker 2: part of this part of the D four VD David

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Speaker 2: Anthony Burg murder case. So let me see it again.

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Speaker 2: So the night we believe Celeste is killed, fourteen year

543
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: old Celeste, his mind is way past that. According to

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Speaker 2: the State, he is dve FORBD is identifying with Matthew McConaughey,

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Speaker 2: the guy who's worked his rear Randolph to be a

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Speaker 2: Hollywood star, and he is identifying with McConaughey driving a

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Speaker 2: luxury car. Okay, fine, But the point is this is

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Speaker 2: right after, according to the State, hours after Celesti has

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Speaker 2: been killed. What is this telling you? Help me, Bethany, Nancy.

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Speaker 8: This is glorification and the death of another person. This

551
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 8: is triumphing over the love object, triumphing over the victim.

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Speaker 8: This is total disdain and disrespect towards her, just like

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Speaker 8: he showed towards the judge in court today. And what

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Speaker 8: I would be interested in is his digital footprint in

555
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Speaker 8: terms of how he represented Celeste to his fans did

556
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Speaker 8: he put her down, did he degrade her, did he

557
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Speaker 8: beat her? But how did he represent her to the public.

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Speaker 8: It seems like she was somebody that he routinely degraded

559
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Speaker 8: in multiple, multiple ways, and this is the ultimate degradation,

560
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Speaker 8: is to show that he just doesn't really care after

561
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Speaker 8: her death, he just doesn't care. In fact, what we

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00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 8: do know about domestic homicide is often after a victim

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Speaker 8: is killed, the perpetrator feels a great sense of relief.

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Speaker 8: And I think that's going to be a part of

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Speaker 8: the court case is what happened in the hours after

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Speaker 8: her death, and how relieved and glorified and delighted he

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Speaker 8: was that she was no longer around so he could

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Speaker 8: continue with his career.

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Speaker 2: I mean, help me out. Dan Murphy, former Detective Sergeant NYPD,

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Speaker 2: according to the state D four VD, has just killed

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Speaker 2: Celeste and he's posting luxury car videos. I mean he's

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Speaker 2: barely according to this day, barely wiped the blood off

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Speaker 2: his hands. He's gone to a pr event. Now he's

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Speaker 2: posting online. Then he gets the sense to unpost it

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Speaker 2: and then later reposts it.

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Speaker 9: This is not a criminal mastermind. This is somebody who

577
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Speaker 9: is so wrapped up and self absorbed in themselves that

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00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 9: everything revolves around them. And she was just as you

579
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Speaker 9: alluded to before. She was just something in his life

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Speaker 9: that was expendable, and when she became problematic, she had

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Speaker 9: to go. He is so wrapped up in his image.

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Speaker 9: You mentioned earlier about wearing the orange suit prison jumpsuit

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Speaker 9: down below his ass as you say, that's a prison

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Speaker 9: yard thing, but it's worked its way onto the street

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Speaker 9: to become part of the street culture. Him doing that,

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Speaker 9: in my opinion, is his way of saying to anybody

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Speaker 9: he's going to be in prison with, because he knows

588
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Speaker 9: he's going to be in prison, I'm like you, stret

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Speaker 9: I'm a tough guy, I'm a rapper, I'm this, I'm

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Speaker 9: not I'm not some soft spoiled thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm willing my stars, Dan Murphy, this defendant was born

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Speaker 2: with a silver spoon in his mouth. He is not

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Speaker 2: gaining street cred to me by literally showing his ass

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Speaker 2: in court. That said, the plot thickens, the deception intensifies.

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Speaker 2: I want you to see something that we've just found.

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Speaker 2: This is Deforvid with Celeste in the back of an uber.

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Speaker 2: Watch keep looking, keep watching. Watch Celeste once again, she's

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Speaker 2: covering her face. I mean, keep it up to Lauren

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Speaker 2: Colin and control room. That is from our nie friend

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Speaker 2: inoperative Ordon. You on TikTok while Lauren is talking. I

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Speaker 2: want to see that. I want to see the other pictures,

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Speaker 2: very calculated, where she's always hiding her face in pictures,

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Speaker 2: Lauren Colin, why would she be hiding her face other

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Speaker 2: than to hide the fact she's under age.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you nailed it right there. And Nancy,

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Speaker 5: I had never seen that video of her in the

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Speaker 5: back of the uber and my heart is broken. Her hands,

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Speaker 5: her little hands, they just look so small. She looks

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Speaker 5: like a child to me. And I, oh, it's just

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Speaker 5: it's breaking my heart even more, especially amid all of

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Speaker 5: these issues, these procedural issues that are going on right now.

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Speaker 5: And I also want to point out, Nancy, that video

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Speaker 5: of Matthew McConaughey that David reposted. It's giving me the

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Speaker 5: chills because David went back and forth to Santa Barbara,

615
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Speaker 5: the alleged dump area where her idea was found. I'm

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Speaker 5: seeing all of these parallels between other notorious killers.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall, what about.

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Speaker 8: It, Well, it shows consciousness of guilt premeditation. Preparing for

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Speaker 8: a dump site is one of the things that we

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Speaker 8: assess for when we try to determine how premeditated was

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Speaker 8: a crime, and usually that involves a lot of driving

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Speaker 8: looking for just the right spot. I'm going to guess

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Speaker 8: he drove to Santa Barbara, drove back, couldn't find an

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Speaker 8: appropriate dumb site, and that's when allegedly he bought the

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Speaker 8: kittie pool the chainsaws. As Dan said, he's not exactly

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Speaker 8: a mastermind. He ordered those off of Amazon. But when

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Speaker 8: one plan failed, he went to the next. That was

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Speaker 8: Plan B, that disarticulating of her body.

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Speaker 2: Reminder to all, David Anthony Burke is presumed innocent until

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Speaker 2: improven guilty in a court of law. That presumption remains

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Speaker 2: with him, shrouding him unless and until the state pierces

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Speaker 2: the presumption with evidence sufficient to prove him guilty beyond

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Speaker 2: a reasonable doubt. We will be in the courtroom when

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Speaker 2: the preliminary hearing starts. If you know or think you

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Speaker 2: know anything about this case, please dial two one, three

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Speaker 2: four eight six six' eight nine. Zero we Remember american

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Speaker 2: twenty five years old when killed in the line of,

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Speaker 2: duty leaving behind grieving Parents don And. Joni american Hero

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Speaker 2: Officer Trevor. Howard thank you to our guests for being with,

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Speaker 2: us but especially to you for being with us tonight

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Speaker 2: and every night as we seek justice in our own

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Speaker 2: good night.

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