1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. The end of our three day 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: a weekend, Memorial Day is upon us. So he may 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: have seen a good deal of the celebrations of the President 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: langa wreath at Arlington today. And one of the guys 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: is like, why are we doing it Moyal Day now? 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: Why is it always now? That's a great question if 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: you're unfamiliar with the history of Memorial Day. It started 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: shortly after the Civil War, and basically it's because that's 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: when the flowers are out and wanted the life flowers 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: at the tombs of soldiers or at the graves of 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: soldiers I should say tombs for some graves for others. 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: And so as they were laying these flowers, that it 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: made sense that it would be, you know, during the 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: season that we have flowers, flowers spread in the graves 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: of the Union and Confederate soldiers alike in Arlington National 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: Cemetery originally Decoration Day, and so that's been going on 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: for over one hundred and fifty years, and here we 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: are celebrating once again. There is always controversey though, and understandably. 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: So it is a bizarre holiday. And by the way, 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: the controversy is not new. Controversy has been going on 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: for over one hundred years, because some are calling in 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: fact the nineteen excuse me. Eighteen sixty nine, The New 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: York Times wrote that the holiday could become sacrilegious and 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: no longer sacred if it focused on pump dinners and oratory. 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: Well, the last thing we want is more oratory. It's 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: true though. 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: Frederick Douglass was an abolitionist, and he said, Americans, we're 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: figuring the Civil Wars impetus, which was enslavement. And he 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: gave a Decoration Day speech in eighteen seventy one at 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: Arlington National Cemetery. So we hadn't even gotten out of 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: the Civil War for more than half a decade as 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: we put together this remembrance, and immediately people are they're 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 2: throwing parties, They're going to us a three day weekend. Whoo. 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: So the meaning of the holiday completely blown gone. 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: And for the last one hundred and fifty years, you 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: seem to have really three sorts of people, right, You've 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: got the super super onnerous people who are saying, look, 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: this is a day to set aside to remember the 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: loved ones, and for many people it's the family members, 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: and they go, you know, let's remember the sacrifices of 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: grandpa or mom, or sister or brother or son or daughter, 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: whatever it is. Then you've got the other side that 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: just goes. 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: We're going jet skin, whoa not here in the world. 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Then you've got kind of the other side, which is 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: sort of a let's take a pause, let's remember, let's 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: not forget the sacrifices that are made. Let's celebrate the 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: lives of those who gave all, and then let's get 51 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: on with their three day weekend. 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: Right. 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: I guess I kind of fall into that last category, 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: and that's gonna upset some people. I know, you should 55 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: be more solemn, and I am. Look, I have family 56 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: members that served. I fortunately didn't lose anybody in my 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: family history to combat, but I am eternally grateful for 58 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: all those that gave all. And there's also this other 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: side to where people go, well, I'm going to be 60 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: angry about Memorial Day because I believe that it celebrates 61 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: the military industrial complex. Oh pushhaw to you, I say, pushaw, 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: there's no reason for that nonsense. Don't diminish the contributions 63 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: made by those who gave all because you don't care 64 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: for the politics today. You can disagree with the war 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: while still embracing those who are fighting for the flag. 66 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: There's no reason you can't do that. 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: So I do think it's interesting as we take a 68 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: look back at history, how so many said, well, this 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: is this is gonna become this is going to become 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: a problem. 71 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: They were kind of right. 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: We have been scrutinizing the presidents for years a Memorial 73 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: Day and how they spend the day. Eighteen eighties Grover 74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: Cleveland it said to have gone fishing. People were appalled. 75 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: Nineteen eleven, the Indy five hundred held there inaugural race. 76 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: On May thirtieth, eighty five thousand people showed up to 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: watch cars go round in circles. And of course now 78 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: we have a mattress sales, car sales. It's become a 79 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: big shopping holiday and as you just heard from the 80 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: traffic report, a big traffic day. 81 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: I bought a mattress yesterday. You bought a matt Did 82 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: you get a good deal on it? At least? Like okay, yeah, 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: but see you did that, You. 84 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: Did it right, You did it on Sunday, not on Monday, 85 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: So I give you a pass. Well, sale prices, Yeah, 86 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: you took advantage of the sale prices, but you're still 87 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: you're still still being true to the nature of. 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: The day itself. That's fine. That's fine, And. 89 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to be grudge anybody time with their 90 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: family and maybe that's how they're celebrating the freedoms that 91 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: have been enshrined and the sacrifices that have been made. 92 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: You know, that's fine. 93 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: I just thought it was interesting to take a look 94 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: and understand some of the history. And you know why 95 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: we even have it now is because this when we. 96 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: Have the flowers. That's it. 97 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: It was writting an interesting There's a guest essay that 98 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: was written by Cayla Williams, who is a former Secretary 99 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 2: of the Department of Veteran Affairs. She was a linguist 100 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 2: in the Army and deployed in Iraq in two thousand 101 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: and three and had an essay in the New York Times. 102 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: Who should we honor a Memorial Day? We always think 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: of fallen fallen heroes right a Memorial Day. But you know, 104 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: Cala made a really good point to say that people 105 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: who should be honored, aren't necessarily those who fell on 106 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: the battlefield. We actually expanded some of the definitions of 107 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: those that have are considered combat deaths to include those 108 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: that have died since returning. If one takes their own 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: life within one hundred and twenty days, still considered a 110 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: combat injury or a combat death. But Williams goes on 111 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: to say, look, there are people that carry the scars 112 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: of war with them for years, and it may take 113 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: a while, but we know that suicide among the veteran 114 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: community is extraordinarily high, and the thought is we need 115 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: to honor those as well. Let's also consider the people 116 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: that paid the ultimate price in supporting roles. And I 117 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: thought that was an interesting take too. Is she talked 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: about people who were some of the first US death 119 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: in World War One, two Army nurses killed by shrapnel 120 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: when a Navy naval gun excuse me, exploded during target 121 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: practice while they were traveling by Navy ship to Europe. 122 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: They were Red Cross nurses who were inducted into the Army, 123 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: serving without rank or commission, since women's statuses as soldiers 124 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: was not yet settled. They probably are not among those 125 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: who spring to mind when we imagine American military deaths 126 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: in that war, yet they made the ultimate sacrifice and 127 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: service to the nation while on their way to save lives. 128 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: That's a great point. I think we have to remember. 129 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: Everyone that makes contributions along the way when we talk 130 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: about fighting and wars and maintaining our freedom and our 131 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: status in the world as well, whether that's translators, whether 132 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: that's intelligence officers or simply support. At the basis, all 133 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: of these people who have died made contributions, whether or 134 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: not they were rank members of the military or not, 135 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: and they made those contributions, and I think that's an 136 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: important thing to remember too. So I was just glad 137 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: to read that. I was glad to reflect a little bit, 138 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: to start to show on what the day is, what 139 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: it means, and who really should be honored. And that 140 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: is an awful lot of people who don't even necessarily 141 00:07:59,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: come to mind. 142 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: It's just a good time, all right. 143 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: While you may be doing your mattress shopping, maybe you 144 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: are doing some traveling. Over three million people from southern 145 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: California traveling over this three day weekend, you probably noticed 146 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: you're using your credit card more than ever. Here's why 147 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: that's next. Chris merrill in for John and Ken. I 148 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: AM six forty We're live everywhere on your iHeartRadio app. 149 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 150 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: AM six forty. 151 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: Three million people in southern California traveling this holiday, and 152 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: maybe you're one of them. Maybe you're one of the 153 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: millions that are traveling to southern California. It's a pretty 154 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: hot destination. And you probably notice you're using your credit 155 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: card a little bit more than ever, right. You probably 156 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: noticed that that bill is just kind of chinging up 157 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: a little more than maybe what you were anticipating. You 158 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: probably also noticed that it's a lot grayer in Southern 159 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: California than what you were probably anticipating. 160 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know. 161 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: If I'm alone on this, fellas you you jump in 162 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: on this too. But I grew up in a in 163 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: a touristy town in northern Michigan, and there was just 164 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: something about when the hot when these you know, the 165 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: long holidays, uh summer holidays, Memorial Day, fourth of July 166 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: and Labor Day came and we were inundated with tourists. 167 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: In Michigan, we call them fudgies. So we were we 168 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: just we were inundated with fudgies. They were everywhere. There 169 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: was something deviously satisfying about having bad weather on those holidays. 170 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: Is that horrible of me? 171 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: I know that the you know, the local the local 172 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 2: market needed it, blah blah blah, but there was just something. 173 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: About ah, suckers. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. 174 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: I think I think it's kind of funny in the 175 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: sense that you were kind of hoping to have bad 176 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: weather because it would mess up the tourist plans, even 177 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: though it messes up your plans probably as well. 178 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing is is, I'm going to be 179 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: here on Tuesday, right, you know, you get another year round. 180 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 181 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: I guess it's a little bit of shading fraud, right, 182 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: isn't it that I'm that I'm sort of mocking their 183 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: experiences and I shouldn't because you know, tourism is a 184 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: huge industry, and especially in the small town where I 185 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: grew up, it was it was everything. You know, there 186 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: are a lot of businesses that made their entire nut 187 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: during the you know, the from from Memorial Day to 188 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: Liberty that was their entire year right there. But there 189 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: was just something about it especially because where I was, 190 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: camping was the big thing. Especially I'm amorial day how 191 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: everybody wanted to go camping. 192 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 4: I'm more interested in how you guys came up with 193 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 4: the term fudgies for tourists, Like, how how did that 194 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 4: come about? 195 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: All right, that's a great question. I'm glad you asked that. 196 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: So uh. 197 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: In in Michigan, one of the big tourist attractions is 198 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: Mackinaw Island. 199 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're familiar with it. It's this 200 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: cute little. 201 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 2: Island, very colonial, no cars allowed, it's horse drawn carriages, 202 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: and it is a it is a massive it's the 203 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: biggest tourist destination in Michigan. 204 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Wait, no, no, well it's just very colonical. 205 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: They don't allow Yeah, they don't allow many cars on 206 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: the island, and so everybody gets around by horse and carriage. 207 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: So when the tourists go, there's all these different companies. 208 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: It's like it's like Uber from one hundred years ago. 209 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: So that's how everybody gets around. They've got kind of 210 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: a main street and their big thing is fudge Mackinaw Island. 211 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: Fudge is a huge draw and it's sold all over 212 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: the world. But it all originates from this little island. 213 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: That is, it's in Lake Huron, but it's right under 214 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: the bridge where you can see Lake Michigan and you're 215 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: in the middle of a Lake Huron. It's a really 216 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,479 Speaker 2: cute place, super cute. I don't want to undersell it. 217 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: It's it's fantastic. But the tourists would all go and 218 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: everybody that went to Macinaw Island had to get fudge 219 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: as a souvenir. So then that sort of spread around 220 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: northern Michigan. So if you were anywhere in northern Michigan, 221 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: you could find a fudge shop. My hometown has two 222 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: or three fudge shops. So whenever we saw tourists, they 223 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: were all coming up and they'd all go by fudge, 224 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: so they all became fudgies. So that's where it drew. 225 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: So if you ever hear anybody refer to a tourist 226 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: as a fudgie, you know that they're from Michigan. So 227 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: for me, watching all the fudgies come to town, there was 228 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: just something just just horribly satisfying about it. Raining on 229 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: them or whatever that is. I did feel bad though 230 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 2: this week with all the beaches that were closed because 231 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: of bacteria levels. 232 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: That's not a good look. Like when we have May gray. 233 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: People will come here that have maybe never been to 234 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: southern California before. They're like, hey, for Memorial Day, our 235 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: kid just graduated, and we're all going to go to 236 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: disney World before they go off to college or Disneyland. 237 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: Excuse me, before they go off to college. It's gonna 238 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: be one big last family hurrah. Right, I get that, 239 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people doing that. And then 240 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: they come here and they're like, well, it was gray 241 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: the whole time. So they go back and they start 242 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: telling stories. Their friends say, well, did you have a 243 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: good time? They go, well, you know, it was really 244 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: interesting when we got there. We expected sunshine and sandy beaches, 245 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: but it was gray the whole time. And then they 246 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: start callousplaining what everything is. They go, they have something 247 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: called may gray, and you got people from Oklahoma that 248 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: are like, May gray, What in the world is that. 249 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: They're like, well, that's when they have a marine layer 250 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: come in and it makes sort of a cloudy, overcast 251 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: sky that looms over the beaches. And then now we 252 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: weren't there for this, But then they say that may 253 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: gray can turn into what they call June gloom. 254 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: Well, I never heard of such a thing. Huh. You 255 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: learn something new every. 256 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: Day, don't you. Yep, that's the whole story. But I 257 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: do feel bad about the bacteria in the beaches. You know, 258 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: when you got beaches that are closed, that sucks, and 259 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: that's not a good look. People don't go home and 260 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: go we learn something new. California has all kinds of 261 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: poop water. 262 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: Poop water. 263 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: You don't say, yeah, we couldn't go swimming in the 264 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: Pacific Ocean because of all. 265 00:13:59,360 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: The poop water. 266 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: What never? Yep, So that's not a good look. It's like, 267 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: that's not exactly the natural phenomena. I knew what people 268 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: going back and saying, well, you know, we didn't have 269 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: the sunshine, but it kind of happens in California. They 270 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: have this magray. You don't want to going back and going, well, 271 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: we want to go to the beaches. But it was 272 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: full of crap. Oh you know a big difference between 273 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: sort of God's hand sort of ruining the weekend and 274 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: then just leaky sewage kind of stuff. So that's not cool. 275 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: What's happening, though, is an awful lot of people are 276 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: traveling and they're going, man, this is expensive. 277 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: Airfare is up. 278 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: Sixteen percent year over year, So that's I mean, that's 279 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: pretty significant, especially if you're trying to travel with a 280 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: family of four, if you are camping or whatever. Outdoor 281 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: supplies eleven percent more expensive this year than last year, 282 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: and almost thirty percent more than it was before the pandemic. 283 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: Going out to eat, I don't have to tell you 284 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: year over year eight percent more expensive. It is a 285 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: it's twenty four percent more expensive than it was before 286 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: the pandemic. They say it's not just rising labor costs, 287 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: it's cost of ingredients and other supplies. Hotels are up 288 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: again this year. Entertainment more expensive. Booze beer and wine, 289 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: that's from Pasad. Even Star News ran the article Booze 290 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: beer and wine? Why why booze beer and wine? Six 291 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: percent price yere for alcohol away from home this year 292 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: and up sixteen percent since pre pandemic. And you know 293 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: the solution to that is you drink but light. They're 294 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: giving that stuff away. Oh man, I'll tell you what. Ever, 295 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: since that whole bud light controversy thing started, it's all 296 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: I've had in the fridge. It's all that's the only 297 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: beer I bought since that whole nonsense. 298 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Started, so much cheaper. It's great. 299 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: I know sports tickets are up just a little bit 300 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: this year too. But you know, you may have noticed. 301 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: Gas is down. 302 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily feel like it. It's up thirty eight 303 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: percent since before the pandemic. It is down year over year. 304 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: And you heard all the stories, you watched the morning 305 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: news and all that stuff, and they go, wow, gas 306 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: is cheaper this year than it was last year, and 307 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: it's off the peak from when it was last October, 308 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: when it was I don't know what was it, eighteen 309 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: dollars a gallon or something, and. 310 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: It feels like a hollow savings. I just there's something 311 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: about gas. 312 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: Was gas was six point fifty and now gas is 313 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: only four eighty. 314 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: I paid four to seventy nine this morning. Okay, that's 315 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: not good. 316 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: No, No, that still hurts, right, I mean that still 317 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: is Like this sucks. Gas is still stupid expensive. And 318 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: it's not like everybody's getting raises commensurate with the cost 319 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: of living. We're not all getting cost of living increases. 320 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: Especially if you're somebody that's got a long term contract. 321 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: Your contract has already got your salary built in, and 322 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: for those of us in the entertainment industry, that's you know, 323 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: that's how it's done. For an awful lot of others, well, 324 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: I guess minimum wage is going up this week, right, 325 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: So minimum wage is going up. That'll help some people. 326 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: But for an awful lot of us, gas is still 327 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: high enough that it's it's creating the squeeze. So even 328 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: though that's down a little bit, it doesn't make me 329 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: feel a whole lot better. I'm not running around going 330 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: well hoo, road trip. 331 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: No. 332 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: When when I got the call and they said, hey, 333 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: can you can you work for John and Ken, I 334 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: said yeah? Because that then there was no decision to 335 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: be made in the household about whether or not we 336 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: were going to travel on Memorial Day. Because we were 337 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: going to travel, It's like, okay, if we travel, we 338 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: got to make sure we budget for it. Because my 339 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: wife and I are really trying to work hard. I'm 340 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: not going into debt. We worked hard to get out 341 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: of debt. We're trying not to go back into debt. Okay, well, 342 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: if you know, if we travel, we have to budget 343 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: for it. We got to do this. We got to 344 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: do that. And when I said hey, can you cover 345 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: for John? And Kenn I went, hey, honey, good news. 346 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: We don't have to budget for a Memorial Day vacation. 347 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: Now it was great. 348 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: The other thing is going to cost you more money. 349 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: An awful lot of people heading back on the ten 350 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: is casinas. The casinos in Las Vegas are actually sticking 351 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: it to you. Payouts are lower for winning jackpot hands, 352 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 2: bets on some roulette table wheels are riskier, and it's 353 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 2: taking more cash to play at many table games. Blackjack 354 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: players lost nearly a billion dollars to casinos on the 355 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: strip last year, second highest loss on record after two 356 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: thousand and seven, which was a big year when things 357 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: were going great before the floor fill out. Some Las 358 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: Vegas casinos cutting back on the number of blackjack tables, 359 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: with dealers raising minimum bets during busy times and lifting 360 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: their advantage over players in some games, doubling down on 361 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: a pre pandemic practice of making subtle changes that favor 362 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: the house. That's occurring to industry executives, researches gamblers, as 363 00:18:58,960 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: told by The Wall Street. 364 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: Journal, So what does that mean? 365 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: If you thought it was lost wages before, it's getting 366 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: even harder. 367 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: To win in Las Vegas a billion. 368 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: Dollars in Blackjack alone, one table game a billion. Granted 369 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 2: it's probably the most popular table game there is. But 370 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: think if they're changing the odds on the slots, they're 371 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: changing the odds on roulette. If they're giving themselves slight advantages, 372 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 2: even if it's a zero point five percent odds increase 373 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: for the house, that translates into millions and millions and 374 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: millions of dollars for the casinos in Las Vegas, and 375 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: that translates into enough that it ruins your vacation again, honey, 376 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: good news, we don't have. 377 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: To worry about where we might want to go for 378 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: Memorial Day this year. 379 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: Oh what a relief, which meant she got to sleep 380 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: in while I got ready for work and couldn't be happier, 381 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: to be honest, couldn't be happier. Summer is here now, right, 382 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: unofficial start to summer, and that also means it is 383 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: the unofficial start to getting ready for fire season. It's 384 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: getting worse, and not necessarily we might we might not 385 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: have as bad a fire season this year. That would 386 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: be great, But if you do have an issue with 387 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: a wildfire, good chances are you're screwed. That's next Chris 388 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: merril in for Johnakin KFI AM six forty more stimulating 389 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: talk and live everywhere in your iHeartRadio app. 390 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 391 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 3: AM sixty. 392 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: It is the unofficial start to summer, and that means 393 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: that we are gearing up now for the start of 394 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 2: wildfire season. You got more rain this winter, and you 395 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: combine that with what is likely to happen. That is, 396 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: it's going to get dry, because that's what it does. 397 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 2: So that means you have potentially more fuel to get 398 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: things burning more. More wet weather means more vegetation growth. 399 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: That vegetation drives. Now you've got more. 400 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: Kindling and it's no good. Now. 401 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 2: Hopefully some of that vegetation is going to maintain moisture 402 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: a little bit longer. Maybe we'll get lucky and have 403 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 2: a few wet weeks this summer. That would be really spectacular, 404 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: really superb. I wouldn't anticipate that, though, because the history 405 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: would show us that the worst wildfires seem to be 406 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: happening very recently, and every year seems to bring another 407 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: contender for the worst. 408 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: Fire in state history. 409 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: And they are massive, which is why a number of 410 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: insurance companies are reevaluating whether or not they want to 411 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: continue to ensure people in California. And this is a 412 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: real booger, because if you can't get insurance on your 413 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: home and you're in an area that is fire prone, 414 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: and heck, you might not even be in an area 415 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: that you think of as being fire prone. And we 416 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: saw last year that suddenly you've got places that are 417 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: facing wildfires. I didn't think they were going to have to. 418 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: It becomes very challenging then to stay in California. 419 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: It just does. I mean, we've. 420 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: Already seen a lot of people leaving the state. We 421 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 2: know that our population is pretty stagnant, as we have 422 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: plenty of births. We have some immigration, mostly international, I 423 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: should say migration to our state, most of it international, 424 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: but an awful lot of people heading out of town there. 425 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: If you're in the Bay Area, you're headed to Idaho. 426 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: If you're in southern California, you're going to Nevada, Arizona, 427 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 2: or Texas or Florida, the other big states that people 428 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: are migrating away. 429 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: And I have to believe that. 430 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: As much as we talk about finances in California being 431 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: tough taxes to you know, the cost of living. All 432 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: this stuff is very challenging. There are real threats, and 433 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: one of the big threats, of course, is wildfires. And 434 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: now if you are a State Farm customer, or if 435 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: you are looking at purchasing homeowners insurance from State Farm, 436 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: it could be out of luck because those good neighbors 437 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: are packing. 438 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 5: Up like a good neighbor. State Farm is there. But 439 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 5: many in California now questioning the company's slogan after the 440 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 5: nation's largest insurance provider has stopped insuring new home and 441 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 5: business properties in the state. 442 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 6: The fact that they just want to pick and choose 443 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 6: who they cover, it just doesn't It doesn't seem the 444 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 6: way it should be. 445 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: Doesn't it. I mean, isn't that kind of how capitalism works. 446 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: We can decide if we want to sell the product 447 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: or not sell that product. I wonder how Jake feels 448 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: about this. 449 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: Existing State Farm customers are not affected, and neither is 450 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 5: auto insurance. But when it comes to new home insurance 451 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 5: sales Insurance Giants says, wildfire risks and skyrocketing construction costs 452 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 5: are too much. 453 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 7: I think it's going to make a difficult situation. 454 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 5: Worse Harvey Rosenfield, founder of Consumer Watchdog and author of 455 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 5: Prop one to OH three past decades ago to protect 456 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 5: consumers from surging insurance rates, says he believes there's an 457 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 5: ulterior mode. 458 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 7: Since they submitted seven hundred million dollars worth of increases 459 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 7: requested in the last few weeks. I think they're trying 460 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 7: to exert their economic pressure as the state's largest insurance 461 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 7: company on insurance on the insurance Commissioner Ricardo Laara, in 462 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 7: order to pressure him to approve rates that are unjustified. 463 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: What hold on, hang on, you're telling me that you've 464 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: got a large corporation that is trying to make more 465 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: money and they're using what leverage they have in order 466 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: to force the hand of politicians. 467 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: In order to make more money. Not in my America. 468 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: It's unheard of. Just I'm shocked. I'm stunned. 469 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: I'm just blown away by this. I never would have 470 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: expected such a thing to happen, Not in this country. 471 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 5: California has experienced record wildfires in the past six years. 472 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 5: State Farm is the second company to stop offering coverage 473 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 5: due to the risk. 474 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: So what do you do? And that will. 475 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 5: Force more owners to California's fair Plan. 476 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: Oh, the Fair Plan, Oh, the Fair Plan. What a 477 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: deal this is, which is. 478 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 5: The insurer of last resort and high risk areas, and 479 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 5: it doesn't offer full coverage. 480 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: And it's super expensive, so you can get not full 481 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: coverage for multitudes more than you'd be paying a private insurer, 482 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 2: and then if a fire does blow through, you're still screwed. 483 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: But the good news is you don't have nearly as 484 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: much money to try to get out of the house 485 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: so quickly. 486 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 6: Insurance is for when things go wrong, and fire is 487 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 6: something that goes wrong. 488 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: I just love the obvious thank you. 489 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 6: I think if you want to ensure in the state 490 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 6: of California, which is one of the biggest areas where 491 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 6: they ensure, then you should have to ensure everyone in. 492 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 8: California, in a state that has been jing about seven 493 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 8: thousand fires a year over the last couple of years. 494 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 8: It is a major concern, especially for those living in 495 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 8: those areas now with fewer choices to find insurance. 496 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's frustrating. 497 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: It is absolutely frustrating, and I understand I understand the 498 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: homeowner saying, well, you know, if you're insuring in California, 499 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: you should insure anyone who wants insurance. I understand the sentiment. 500 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: That's just not how capitalism works. I mean, unless you 501 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: want to go to a single payer insurance system for 502 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: health insurance, auto insurance, homeowners insurance, health life insurance, whatever 503 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 2: you want, somebody's gonna say, well, I can't afford life insurance, 504 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: why doesn't the state do it well? I can't afford 505 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 2: auto insurance? Why doesn't the state do it well? If 506 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: you can't afford home owners insurance, you do have the 507 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 2: state option, which is a kind of a public private 508 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: partnership deal with the Fair Plan, and it's crazy, stupid expensive. 509 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: And the truth is this too. If State Farm gets 510 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: their way and rates go up and somebody wants to 511 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: ensure their home in a high risk area, it's going 512 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: to be stupid expensive and they're gonna say, well, why 513 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: doesn't the state come in and tell them that they 514 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: can't raise rates. Look, this is just a fact of 515 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: where we are right now, just the facts. And really, 516 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: for anybody that is considering relocating, you have to consider 517 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: whether or not relocating is worth the cost, because this 518 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: cost is not going down. The cost of insuring your 519 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: home in a high risk area is not going anywhere. 520 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: This is the new reality that we're in right now 521 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 2: with wildfires growing absolutely out of control. And you can 522 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: parse this out if you want and say that it's 523 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: climate change. You can say that it's the power companies. 524 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: I always blame the power companies. You can say that 525 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: it's a rapid expansion, you can say all sorts of things, 526 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: whatever you want. It doesn't matter what the reason is. 527 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: The truth is it's just more expensive. So maybe you 528 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: don't get that cabin at Big Bear. Maybe you're not 529 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: gonna go get a place there in Tahoe. Maybe this 530 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 2: is just not the time to be getting your your 531 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: getaway vacation home deep in the woods. It's just too 532 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: dag gum expensive, all right. Another reality of where we 533 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: live is that there is a real danger lurking just 534 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: off the shores. There is never a shortage of scientists 535 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: telling you there's nothing to see here, it's not that dangerous. 536 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 2: Those scientists are liars. You'll find out what that danger 537 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: is next. Chris Merrill I AM six forty in for 538 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: John and Kennon live everywhere on your heart radio app. 539 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 540 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: AM six forty. 541 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: I watch Shark Week on Discovery Channel. 542 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 2: I love it. My wife is. My wife is one 543 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: of those mega fans. She's just she decorates the house 544 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: in sharks for Shark Week. She is a director for 545 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: a laby in San Diego, and she will decorate her 546 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: area up for you know, the the contracting and billing 547 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: and all that stuff area. She'll decorate it with like sharks, 548 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: shark Shark Week stuff. 549 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: That's what she does. 550 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: She's weirdo, total weirdo. It's those quirks that I love 551 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: about her. But she's a weirdo and it really gets 552 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: into the Shark Week. I love watching Shark Week because 553 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: they always do this thing where they're like, let's take 554 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: a look at the worst bites in shark history, and 555 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: then they'll do this top ten countdown. 556 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: Number ten. Man loses eyeball to sand shark. 557 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: Yes, even little sand sharks can be dangerous, as this 558 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: man found out. 559 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: And of course it always it always will. 560 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: We'll build up to like and then this massive great 561 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: white will eat your leg and then beat you with 562 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: the remainder of your leg and then drag you down 563 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: to the bottom and drown you. And just before you drown, 564 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: bite your head in half. And that's the worst shark 565 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: bite you could possibly have. But we'd also like to 566 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: remind you we need to save the sharks. Sharks are 567 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: an important part of our ecosystem. Sharks will not attack 568 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: you unless provoke. Any shark attack has always been an accident. 569 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: Sharks love you. Sharks make great pets, Sharks are good companions. 570 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: Take a look. Here's one of those rescue sharks. Here's 571 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: a shark that you can take with you on an 572 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: airplane because it has a little red vest. Sharks magnificent animals. 573 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: It's the weirdest dichotomy. Whenever you watch that Shark week, 574 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: it's all about how terrifying they are and how endangered 575 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: they are, and how important they are, and how wonderful 576 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: they are, and how they. 577 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: Make great pets. They don't. 578 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: I was reading an article that Katy La had here 579 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: over the weekend, and this group from cal State Long 580 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: Beach is studying sharks, and they've come to the conclusion 581 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: that sharks aren't that dangerous. Says, despite all the statistics 582 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: you hear about the probability of being bitten by a shark, 583 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: we actually don't have any real statistics because we don't 584 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: know how many people go in the water. That according 585 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: to doctor Chris Low, a professor in marine biology and 586 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: a director of the Shark Lab at cal State Long Beach. 587 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: He says, by gathering data, we can better adjust those 588 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: statistics about your chance of being bitten by a shark. 589 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: I expect the risk to be much lower. Okay, so 590 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: the idea here is that sharks they only bite people 591 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: what a dozen times a year? And they say, but 592 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: look at all the millions of people that go in 593 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: the water. If there are a dozen, maybe it's a 594 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: dozen fatalities. I don't have any idea. If sharks only 595 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: bite a dozen people a year, there's really I mean, 596 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: what are your odds of being bitten by a shark? 597 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: Really? I don't want one of those dozen, thank you. 598 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: You know. 599 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: The craziest thing is sharks aren't that dangerous. Oh yeah, 600 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: then why is the beach closed? Oh well we saw one. Yeah, 601 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: but I mean, your odds of actually being bitten by 602 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: that shark are very minimal. You know what your odds 603 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: are of being eaten by a polar bear, They're very small. 604 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: I wouldn't recommend trying to wrestle one. I wouldn't recommend 605 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 2: going into an area where there are polar bears. Your 606 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: odds are being eaten by a grizzly bear very small. 607 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: In fact, I remember a few years ago there was 608 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: a guy that said he was going to go live 609 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: with the grizzlies, and he had all these videos of 610 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: him and he ingratiated himself into the grizzly population. And 611 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: his girlfriend left and he was gonna live with the 612 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: grizzlies for a year. And when she came back, you 613 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: know what, she found a leg bone. 614 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: That was it. 615 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: You know why, because the grizzlies ate him, because that's 616 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 2: what they do. Your odds are being struck by lightning 617 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: are very, very minimal. And yet if you have a 618 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: thunderstorm roll through a high school football game, they evacuate 619 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: the stadium. But my odds are so small, Why would 620 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: I even worry about being hit by lightning? If lightning 621 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: isn't win five miles high school football games, they're like, okay. 622 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: Everybody out of the stadium, get under the get into 623 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: your cars. Whatever it is. 624 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: They say, no, you can't be here, can't rescue you 625 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: getting hit by lightning. Yeah, but you know, a study 626 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: by a cal State Fullerton said that getting hit by 627 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: lightning is not all that common, so why am I 628 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: even worried about it? Oh? 629 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: Look, thunderstorms rolling through lightning. Maybe I'll go golfing. 630 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: I mean, the odds of being hit out by lightning 631 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: while I'm raising that metal rod in the art not 632 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: very high. So why would I worry about it? 633 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: Because the odds are more than zero? That's why. 634 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: Oh, sharks aren't that dangerous. Have you watched Shark Week? 635 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: Sharks are plenty dangerous. It's all these scientists landing up saying, Wow, 636 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: you know you don't need to worry about that. Sharks 637 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: aren't that bad. Yeah they are. In fact, I was 638 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: in on Friday for MO and Richie the producer, and 639 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: I found this story about about a shark attack in 640 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: Turks and Caicos and they were going, well, you know 641 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: it wasn't that bad because she just had uh, she 642 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: just had her her foot bitten off. 643 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: Oh is that all? 644 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: It's just a foot, nothing to worry about here, just 645 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of a just just a little foot. 646 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: Don't have to worry about any just a foot. 647 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: Is a woman who graduated from Yale and was celebrating 648 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: at Turks and Caicos. Now I don't know what she 649 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: was studying at Yale, but whatever it is, she expected 650 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: to make enough money that she could go celebrate to 651 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: Turks and KOs. Or her parents had plenty of money 652 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: to both send her to Yale and then a graduation 653 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: gift senator to Turks and Caicos. She's swimming at Turks 654 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: and Kekos. She's doing one of the snorkeling. Let's gout snorkling. 655 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 2: He graduated from Yale. We're gonna go snorkling. And she 656 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: goes snarkling and a shark, who of course is her 657 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: best friend the whole wide world. So say the scientist 658 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: shark did what sharks do and bit her foot off. 659 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't that make you all feel better? It does not 660 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: make me feel better at all. Baby check, baby che. 661 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 6: Said, no, mmy shot. 662 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: There are some things that I just think are. 663 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: Dumb ways to die, and being bitten by a shark 664 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 2: is one of those. 665 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: Now, look, if you're. 666 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: Just swimming and you're near the pier and uh and 667 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: you get taken by surprise, that's one thing, right, Okay, 668 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: that sucks. Bad timing, wrong place, wrong time, shark ate you. 669 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 2: But it's it's the people that go I think I'm 670 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 2: gonna go swimming with the sharks. And again we've all 671 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: seen Shark Week where somebody's gonna go diving. Oh, I 672 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: couldn't believe all the great whites that were surrounding us. 673 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: Well, you couldn't believe that. Huh you thought that was 674 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: really special? Huh. 675 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of them came in and I even had 676 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: to push him away. Well, you had to push the 677 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: shark away. Ait, you thought that was a good idea. 678 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: Huh you thought that. You know, It's just look, look 679 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: what a fun experience this is. Yeah, why don't you 680 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 2: jump into the gorilla cage at the zoom see what happens. 681 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: Maybe that gorilla is gonna come up and be your 682 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: best friend and be so curious. If it's too close, 683 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: maybe just kind of nudge it away. 684 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: We'll be fine. I mean, gorilla attacks in the United 685 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: States are are very very rare. Why not stop worrying 686 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: about it and just embrace it? Nerds, scientists, nerds, Okay, 687 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: speaking of disasters that we could avoid. 688 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: Congress sets a debt limit, Then Congress blows through the 689 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: debt limit. Then Congress says that they have a catastrophe 690 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 2: they have to solve or else we will all suffer 691 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: and I feel like you. I feel like this all 692 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 2: could have been avoided. 693 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: Oh and look right at the eleventh hour, we did 694 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: avoid it. That's next. 695 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: Chris Marrilyn for John and kamka if I AM six forty. 696 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: We're live everywhere on your iHeartRadio app. 697 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 698 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on k if I 699 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 2: AM six forty one pm to four pm every Monday 700 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 2: through Friday, and of course any time on demand on 701 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app.