1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glazer, a mental health podcast 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glazer. Welcome on Everybody Too, Unbreakable, a 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: mental health podcast with Jay Glazer. I'm your host, Jake Glazier. 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I try and get in guess that 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: just run the gamut and everything. And I don't think 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I've had a performer singer on yet. And I'm so 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: excited to have this person on because he has reinvented 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: himself over and over and over, and we have so 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: much in common, we have so many mutual friends also, 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: so with that, I would have welcome in my dude, 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: Brett Michael's how are you brother? I am doing awesome. 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: First of all, I want to say what an honor 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: to be on here. Thank you for having me. And 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: we are not far in our neck of the woods. 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: I grew up in the Pennsylvania area. I know you're 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: a Jersey guy, short guy. Yeah, Jersey short guy, but 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: I don't I don't claim it, but once that TV 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: show came out, I'm like, fuck it, I'm from outside 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: New York. Let me tell it before I sorry. So 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: here's what I love okay. And we have a very 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: close futual friend, one of my best friends on the 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: planet and these yours as well. And I called him, 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: I said, hey, man, I got your dude coming on. 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: What could you tell me? And that guy's Guy Fieri. 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: And I have a whole chapter in my book, I'm Breakable. 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: I have a book called him Breakable. How I turned 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: my depression anxiety into motivation. You can too, And I 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: have a whole chapter on loyalty right let loyalties are 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: dying art. And when I said to guys, said hey, 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Brett Michael's coming on, he said one of us loyal 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Just this guy just drove overnight to get to my 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: birthday party, Like you gotta ask about But when I 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: heard that the loyalty part, I was like, man, it 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: lit me up. Well, first of all, thank you, and guy, 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: I just literally a couple of days ago in Florida. 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: We travel around a bit. He was on stage with 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: me during the Stadium tour, but then we were down 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: in Florida together. We owned properties down there, and I 40 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: just want to say, one of the best people and 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: the story he's talking about this is no lie. So 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: he calls up and he's like me. He's spontaneous. Sometimes 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: we're a little too spontaneous. And he said, I'm doing 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: this thing, and I said, guy, come hook or crook, 45 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: I will make it out to your ranch. There's no like, 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: there's no cell service out where he was at. And 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: this is a much longer story. I'll make it sure. 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: I am a I have tattooed on my back, on 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: my back shoulder, it says life, love, loyalty. I'm not 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: kidding you. It means the world to me. And I 51 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: grew up in a small town Pennsylvania and it's still 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: to this day. Best friends with with all my friends 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I grew up with, and guys, that's what we hit 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: it off immediately. We've been friends a while. What a 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: great guy. And also you know we're talking another friend 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: of ours, the Bruce Up and Bruce is amazing and 57 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: again obviously we do a lot of business together. But 58 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: it goes beyond that. For me, it's about passion and friendship. 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: It's about, you know, loving the people you're around and 60 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: and sometimes having to painfully let go with some of 61 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: those that just are pulling you in the wrong direction. Yeah, no, 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: that's you make a great point there, because a lot 63 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: of times. And I see this around NFL players all 64 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: the time, like they'll make it and then somebody will 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: say them, man, you're changing Money's change you, And yeah, 66 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: money does change you. Like Diddy's white party is way 67 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: better than wearing white and black stripes, you know, So 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: it's like it does change you. And I tell these guys, 69 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: if they're not empowering you over there, just because they 70 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: were with you for the first twenty one years doesn't 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: give people the right to be with you for the 72 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: next sixty or seventy one years if they're not empowering 73 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: you and lifting you up. But loyalty to me is 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: that that our loyalty is doing things for others without 75 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: them even asking. Like I'm gonna always think, man, like 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: if something comes to my mind, Hey, this is gonna 77 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: help my friend Brett Michael, this is gonna help guy, 78 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: this is gonna help them, or you know, just constantly 79 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: if I don't hear from them for a while, checking 80 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: in because I don't know what they're going through, so 81 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: checking in on them, making sure they're doing okay. And 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: I think it's in today's day and age, too many 83 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: people kind of forget really the art of loyalty one 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: million percent, and I want to add to that too. 85 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: It's sometimes like yourself myself, it's born into the d 86 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: n A where when you surround yourself you find great 87 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: people in your life. What what I think has helped 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: me as a lead singer straight to the point, is 89 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: the fact that I love seeing people have a great time. 90 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys who's gonna call you down 91 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: the road from this not long and say, hey, did 92 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: you ever think of this or throw that? Not for 93 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: business but for friendship. I'll be like, listen, we're doing 94 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: this thing with this help, with that help. And that's 95 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: one of the reasons I say, you know, you talk 96 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: about unbreakable, and I wrote a song with my daughter 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: are called unbroken, right, And it's about this unbroken fighting 98 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: spirit that we have to find because we've got to 99 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: go through the tough times in order to find that. 100 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: It's easy to have. Like I said about songwriting, it's 101 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: really hard to write a party song. It is because 102 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: you're in the middle of party. Who feels like sitting 103 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: down and working on something, But it is when it 104 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: breaks your heart true story, No one Everyone always says, 105 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: oh when you wrote nothing but a good Time. That 106 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: that must have been so easy to write, I said, 107 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: oddly enough, if you listen to nothing but a good Time, 108 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: it is about me working as a fry cook and 109 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: being repeatedly told, repeatedly told, I will never make it 110 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: out of Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. You can play in every band 111 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: you want, there's no fighting chance you're gonna write original material. 112 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: And here's where I was different, inherent by my d 113 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: n A from my mom and dad. I've decided as 114 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: a child when I got diabetes, right up to the 115 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: time I was sixteen working as a fry cook and 116 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: a bus boy, that I was going to be victorious 117 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: over being a victim. So every time I was put down, 118 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: don't let me let me say this correctly, it hurts. 119 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: Don't ever, It's not like all that doesn't hurt every 120 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: time you get told that. I just used it as 121 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: another brick to make me step higher, to fight harder. 122 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's what's helped me in my entire life. 123 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: I looked at diabetes sometimes as a blessing more than 124 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: a curse, because it kept me from falling into the 125 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: complete over the edge at every single party. Because you 126 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: can do that it's easy to do that. Instead, I 127 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: like seeing people having a great time at my party. 128 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: I want you to have a grate when you come 129 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: to my house. I walk out how you do when 130 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: meet in the driveway, come in, and I think, me 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: and you now possess a lot of that same spirit. 132 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: I always say, like, I made a decision when I 133 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: got my break to cover the giants for a whopping 134 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: nine thousand, four hundred fifty bucks a year. I made 135 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: a decision that was about four hundred quadruple times what 136 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: we made on my first royalty, chap dollar royalty. But 137 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: that royalty check for you, right was like your royalty 138 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: check probably still validated you, Like, Hey, I said I'd 139 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: be the last motherfucker standing and I got it and 140 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: I made it right. It's not the dollars, it's that 141 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: we did it. We both said we're gonna be the 142 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: last motherfucker standing here. We're gonna do it our way, 143 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: and it may not pay off. Now, mine took eleven 144 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: years to pay off, right years. I don't know how 145 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: long it took to pay off to to really get it, 146 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: But it was more of that validation of all right, 147 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: we said we're gonna do it in a certain way. 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: We're not gonna quit and we're gonna be rejected more 149 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: than anybody in the planet. But that fucking you got 150 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: that check. It validated you. One billion percent, not a 151 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: million percent, a billion percent. It validated it. And I 152 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: will never forget this. I grew up again, very thankful 153 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: for where I grew up. But what I earned is 154 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: it's I. The luckier I get is always comes with 155 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: the harder I worked. And when I say that, I 156 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: know I said that backwards, but it's the truth. The 157 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: luckier I got came with the hard work I put 158 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: in and when I realized that my gambling skills suck. Um. 159 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I didn't come for money, and I probably was never 160 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: gonna win the I'm not saying I won't. I wasn't 161 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna len the lottery. I just went out there and 162 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: I had a really good learning curve, so I would 163 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: listen to great people, uh ignore the ones that I felt. 164 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: You know your gut, I'm in pathic I think you 165 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: may be the same. You gut tells you when you're 166 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: around somebody it doesn't feel right, and it also tells 167 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: you when it feels really right. And that was a 168 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: blessing for me, and then I went out literally loaded 169 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: up my windowless chevett, an old ambulance ban in a 170 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: green pickup truck, drove it out with a bunch of 171 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: my friends. We drove l a and live behind a 172 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: dry cleaner for three years and sleeping bags in the floor. 173 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: But there was a reason you're ready for the reason 174 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: we were able to rehearse there it cost us nothing. 175 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: We could live, you know, we were able to survive. 176 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: And the biggest blessing that ever happened was being turned 177 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: down by every label, probably three times over, no no, 178 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: no bullshit, three times over with songs like every Rose, 179 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: songs like talk Dirty to Me, ones that became number 180 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: one hits. They were like, we don't hear the word 181 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: you're ready, the buzzword, We don't hear the nucleus of 182 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: a hit. I go, I don't know what the hell 183 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Seems it seems like it's a good 184 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: song to me. But as I said that, it also 185 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: the best thing. And Bruce will talk about this all 186 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: the time. We retained all of our publishing and that 187 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: became a huge It was it somehow somewhere someone was watching, 188 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, the man was watching out for me or 189 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: the woman, the person was somebody, My angel was watching God. 190 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. God was watching out for me ex absolutely, 191 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: and it just felt, even in the course of me 192 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: making some less than reputable decisions, somehow again God was 193 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: watching out for me and helped me mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically, 194 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: stay in the game, give me the moment when so 195 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: for me, it took me again eleven years. I was 196 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: making nine thousand, four hundred and fifty bucks a year 197 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: for those eleven years, and I finally got a call 198 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: from my agent saying, okay, you can you can excel. 199 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: You finally got a full time job after being rejected 200 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: for eleven straight years, over and over and over and 201 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: over and over. And it's fucking brutal to be told 202 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: you're not good enough for eleven years. And you know 203 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: that's you know, the overnight success. It's you know, it's 204 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: an eleven years folks, it's not overnight. But when I 205 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: got that call, I didn't even ask how much it 206 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: was for is to to be on CBS, to do 207 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. To on CBS, you just got the NFL 208 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: contract back. He said, You're gonna be the NFL insider, 209 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: the NFL to on CBS. I said, I'll take it, 210 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: and he said, don't you want to know how much 211 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: it's for? And I said, I don't give a fuck. 212 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: It validated me that when I said I'd be the 213 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: last dude standing and I was gonna do it different 214 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: than every other reporter that's that's doing it. It validated me. 215 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: And that was my moment. Give me the moment for 216 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: you when you got the call that your first song, Okay, 217 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: you got it, it's gonna be a hit. You got it, 218 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: you you you kind of you made it. If you will, 219 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: you know you got over that hump. Give me that 220 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: moment when you realize that absolutely, And before I do that, 221 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: as this part of me, I need you to know, 222 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: first of all, congratulations, as I know you and want you, 223 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: and I can feel you, can feel your energy, and 224 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: I beg you for whatever whatever hits you had to take, 225 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: for however many put downs, however many you know, No, 226 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: you're not the right one. We're looking for somebody else. 227 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Whatever happened, And I got chills up and down my 228 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: arm as I'm saying this, I got the chill bumps. 229 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: Whatever happened carves you into the credible human that you become, 230 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: that energy level you have, don't lose that the world 231 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: the world needs because we all get knocked down. We 232 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: all have those breaking moments, and it's those of us 233 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: that are warriors that get back up, fight through it 234 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: and say I don't give a ship. I am going 235 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: to fight through this and I'm gonna make it so 236 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: that's an inspiration to a lot of people. And I say, 237 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: this too, is the son of a veteran, and my 238 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: relatives all served, all of including my sisters that offered 239 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: Air Force Base and some Purple Hearts, some Kia in action. 240 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: I won't go into that. We decided as a family 241 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: to push forward and that unbreakable moment for me, I 242 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: will never forget this. There was crossroads in my life. 243 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: Can I give you really quick ones? All right? So 244 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: here it comes. My first one started so long story short, 245 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing this any documentary called Unbroken, right, it's the 246 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: origins of Brett Michaels. I take him to the exact 247 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: spot in Pennsylvania outside the radio shack Strip Mall parking 248 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: lot in the slushy snow of January, right where I 249 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to come in and buy a mic stay 250 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: because they thought I didn't have the money for it. 251 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: And I remember looking at my work boots in the snow, 252 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: cigarette butts, you know, the cigarette butts in the snow. 253 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking down. This sounds crazy, And at that moment, 254 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: I said, I am driving this to California. I'm writing 255 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: original music. I'll sell everything I own, and I'm driving 256 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: across this country with or without anybody in this car, 257 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make it. That was my I'm gonna 258 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: go write music and write original material. Right. I figured, 259 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: if I'm starving, I'm gonna drive someplace that may be 260 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: warm in the winter, right, so at least I have 261 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: some more. But my big moment came, I'm not making 262 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: this up. The the turning point for me. The real 263 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: turning point came when I took my record So understand 264 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: my signing day when when you know all these bands 265 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: are like, oh, there was Limos, and there's Jets, and 266 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: there's this and that. When you're an independent band like 267 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: Poison or like myself, independently owned and operated, Mine was 268 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: sitting on a warehouse floor in El Segundo, packing shrink 269 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: wrapping and packing my own records and cassette I'm not 270 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: making this up. Look what the cat dragged in? This 271 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: is as true as it gets. We laugh about it 272 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: to this day. The band, I go, we're we don't 273 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: even have a sandwich in here, Like we're sitting on 274 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: the floor. I go, this is not at all what 275 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: I pictured when I read my uh kiss brochure, you know, 276 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, where's the Jets, where's the big party? 277 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: Like um so el segundo, shrink wrapping records, packing cassettes 278 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: and boxes, sending them out as an independent band, right, 279 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: and that moment, and then driving from there, here it comes. 280 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: We have a chevette that's been broken into so many times. 281 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: We're lucky we still had a front windshield. We drive 282 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: it down in the band. We go into a place 283 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: called kN a C Radio. Right, it's a big rock 284 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: station and opened up. They're kind of down in the 285 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: Long Beach area. We hand them the record. They don't 286 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: interview us. There's no big interview. There's no They're like, okay, thanks. 287 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: They've got a bunch of other bands that are breaking big. 288 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: We hand them the record. They spin it and I'll 289 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: never forget hearing Look what the cat dragged in? Cry 290 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: tough and then talk dirty to me. Then all of 291 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: a sudden, all the other stations that it whatever happened, 292 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: fans related to it. It worked. We were great on 293 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: the club scene. We always threw a big like we 294 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: always put on a big show and big music. But 295 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: it didn't translate yet to a record deal. And I 296 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: will never forget that moment setting along the five and 297 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: the four oh five in that area and hearing them say, well, 298 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: here's a song. Brett Michaels brought this in with poison 299 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: and this this song right here is called look what 300 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: the Cat dragged in And don't leave if you don't 301 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: like it, because we've got two more we're gonna spin. 302 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: And that was a you have no idea, you know, 303 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: vindication you were talking about with your first check or 304 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: eating give a ship what they were giving you tearing 305 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: that on the radio. My head hit the steering wheel 306 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: and it wasn't tears like I don't want to get 307 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: choked up on your show, but no, please do man. 308 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: We're we're vulnerable. Man over here, Man, I'm vulnerable and 309 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: I my head hit the steering wheel and it really 310 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: it was a hell of a moment, man. That is beautiful. Man, 311 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: that is beautiful and I appreciate it like that moment. 312 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: I love it and Jerry Maguire not gonna make me cry, 313 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: j Hey, but but here. And this is one of 314 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: the things I'm trying to do with this podcast is 315 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: show dudes out there that it's manly to be vulnerable 316 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: and to cry. No one's questioning our manhood. Weren't you 317 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: crying the drop of a dime. We're good and that's 318 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: what we need to do in today's day and age 319 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: and show people it's okay. So we don't hold that 320 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: ship in anymore and we start, you know, opening up 321 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: and being real with each other. So man, I'm honored 322 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: that you did that. I'm proud of you. Man, that's 323 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: fucking strong. I'm proud of you. Thank you so much. 324 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it was that moment if it 325 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: never went any further, which I knew, Like thing is 326 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: every day I go in to do this. When I 327 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: went on, two different TV shows have been producing you 328 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: know since then. Probably my strong suit is my brain 329 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: is a little bit like a matrix, so I look 330 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: at things from a thirty thousand foot view looking down. 331 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: But also I'm a ground level guy. I self proclaim 332 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: myself the realist. What I mean is I'm a dreamer 333 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: and a realist. So the dream is amazing. Everyone's creative, 334 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: everyone's got a dream that I need. What you got 335 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: to do is have that will power. You've got to 336 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: get the skills, and you have to have the thrills, 337 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: but without the willpower, without the mental fortitude to move forward. 338 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: As soon as you hit a brick wall, you'll stop. 339 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: The minute I hit a brick wall, I kicked that 340 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: fucker down and found a way over it and a 341 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: way to get through it. And then it led to 342 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: the Columbia Records and Tapes Club, if you remember that 343 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: for a penny. When first I looked and go, holy craft, 344 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm lifted up here with Aerosmith and Zeppelin and Kiss. 345 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: That was great. And then to be able to be 346 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: playing the stadiums now you know here we are thirty 347 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: six years into it, if not more. As an absolute 348 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: fan of music and sports, it I brought both of 349 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: those together. I take my my daughters out, we build 350 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: a motocross track, We have a mini little football field. 351 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's crazy, it's I just combined my 352 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: love of music and sports and and people and just 353 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: keep it rocking. You. You've also you've reinvented yourself over 354 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: and over and over and over. Right, You've done TV 355 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: shows that rock love. You wrote your song with your daughter. 356 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: You have something coming is on and it's coming out 357 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: on a biopic on you. Right, there's a biopic on 358 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: A and E Yes thank you. So you've real and 359 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: you've reinvented yourself over and over and over. Why So? 360 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: I started with football and I was fighting at the time, 361 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: and then I said, well, you know this mixed martial 362 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: arts sport, it's gonna take off. They're gonna need announcers, 363 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: which is what happened, right. And then I've done ballers 364 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: and I started charities with and EP emerging Vets and player. 365 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: Now I'm reinventing myself a little more with trying to 366 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: be the voice of mental health, to give people words, 367 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, to have the conversation. But like over the years, 368 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: I just reinvented myself. A lot of mine came out 369 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: of fear that I'm gonna lose it all, and then 370 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: I always got to have something else because that's my depression. 371 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: Anxiety tells me I'm not worthy of it, and I don't. 372 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: It's all gonna leave tomorrow because I don't deserve it. 373 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm not worthy of it, and it just man, and 374 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: it sucks, and I wake up with it every day. 375 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: So I constantly reinvent myself and things I'm gonna do, 376 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: so I'm more out of fear. Why do you reinvent yourself? 377 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: First of all, if you don't mind me just taking 378 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: a minute to talk with you about exactly what you're 379 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: going through, because this is what makes great friends and loyalty. 380 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: First of all, I want to take yours, which is 381 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: when people talk about, oh, no fear, there's no fear. 382 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: When we say no fear, no fear is what we 383 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: have to find. What you have inside of you is 384 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: this constant drive. It's this constant storm that's inside of me. 385 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I think a bit of that with 386 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: you is a feeling of Again, I want to say this. 387 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: If you say I don't feel I'm worthy that ticket, 388 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: here is where you excel. Most people when they hit 389 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: that crawl up and they don't fight through it, what 390 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: you're showing them was we fight through it. I want 391 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: to tell everybody out there, it's painful. Sometimes it is 392 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: knowing that listen. In the entertainment business, no different from sports, 393 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: no different from every time you've created yourself out of 394 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: fear but then took it to the next level. It's 395 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: no different than what I do in the music business. 396 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're here today, gone later, not even 397 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: later this afternoon, and I have just Here's where my 398 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: no fear moment comes is that I just don't ever know. 399 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: I never know it's gonna be a huge success. I 400 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: just never think it's going to fail, and then I 401 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: find a way to get it done. I know that 402 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: sounds crazy. When I did Apprentice, I'm in the middle 403 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: of Rock Love. It's the highest rated show, and so 404 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm helping I produce all these I get into the 405 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: you ask anybody of work with, I get into the 406 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: nitty gritty. I'm hands on. I'm like, no, listen. My 407 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: thing that turns me on is being into the creative 408 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: and turning it into the real deal. But when I 409 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: get into the nitty gritty these shows, so here I am. 410 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: We're doing Rock Love. We're about to do a third season. 411 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: It's their highest rated show. It's crazy, ridiculous dating world, 412 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: complete opposite of doing an apprentice, right I asked to 413 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: go on Apprentice, like. It wasn't like I go there 414 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: like you're crazy. You're gonna go on there if you 415 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: don't like you You're just You're gonna look like you 416 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: know where I'm going with this. You're gonna look like 417 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: an idiot, you know what I mean? You'll be on 418 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: their one episode and gone. I said, no, I don't 419 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: know I'm gonna win it. But when if any of 420 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: this show is a real they will see my work ethic. 421 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: They will see how I work with people, and that 422 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: it didn't get here by being lucky for this many years. 423 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: And then in the middle all that came you were 424 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: asking about that most unbreakable moment. In the middle of 425 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: doing that is when I had the brain hemorrhage. So 426 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: now I have this life ending subractnoid brain hemorrhage. And 427 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: the minute I came out of the you know it 428 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: was a t I a a stroke as well when 429 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: I woke up and came out of it. And I 430 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: will never forget that moment. I look up and there's 431 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: a nurse and all white and she's massaging my legs 432 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding you. For a minute, I thought 433 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: this this Heaven. I made it to heaven where the 434 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: nurses they have I goes this it. I guess I 435 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: did something right. God, I did a few things good. 436 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: And then when I realized I was going to live. Uh, 437 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: Dr z at the Hospital of Barrow is one of 438 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: the best in the world who saved my life. He said, 439 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone is determined to head up and 440 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: down that hallway learning to walk everything again. And I 441 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: keep adding to this, going back to what you had 442 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: started with. I know I sometimes go all over the place, 443 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: but thank you, I have it. My dad used to 444 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: be ready for this. When I was a kid. My 445 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: dad and mom said to me, oh, my son just 446 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: has a little extra energy, right right, right, right right right. 447 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, the kid has a little extra energy. Man, 448 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: he's spunky. And they'll be talking about a motorcycle and 449 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: the next thing you know, he's out in the front 450 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: yard throwing football. We're like, wait, what. So I write 451 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: my book about my a d D. And I used 452 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: to be told that you know how to learning disability, 453 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: and I look at it and I go, no, I 454 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: just don't learn the way you all teach. I learned fine, 455 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: I just don't learn the way you teach. I coach 456 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: people now too. I coached pretty well. I'm sure you 457 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: know I teach, I coach, but I just don't learn 458 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: the way you teach. I don't have a learning disability, 459 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: not a chance. And that here's what you ever study 460 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: how many amazing players, athletes, musicians, artists, you know, Ceo 461 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: s All our touch with a little a D D 462 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: A d h D, A little bit of touch of 463 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: that is in there because if we can focus it, 464 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: finish it, and make it relatable, it is unstoppable. Like 465 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: in other words, for us to take that and use it. 466 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: You're exactly right. They just didn't. Same for me, they didn't. 467 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: They just didn't know quite how to teach around what 468 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: where my strong points were. Give me your I'm gonna 469 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: I'm only keep it for a couple more minutes. Man, 470 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Oh I can talk me and 471 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: you could record. I want to tell you this is 472 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: this is therapeutic for me. So I I was so 473 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: excited about doing this. I go, I don't care where 474 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: I am in the world, we are, I'm stopping everything 475 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: to have this conversation with you because you're an inspiration 476 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: and it it this is a helping moment for me. 477 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: Oh man, that is that is an honor to here man. 478 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: Thank you. I really appreciate that. You're welcome. All right, 479 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: So here's what I want from him. Give me the 480 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: holy ship moment for you where somebody you looked up 481 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: to in the music world said something to you. You know, 482 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: I don't know who you looked up to, you know, 483 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: in the in the music world, but I'm sure you've 484 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: had that moment they come and say, oh man, I 485 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: love I love what you do. So here was that 486 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: great moment. Again, if you knew me, you would see 487 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm a hands on I'm a handshake hug. How you 488 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: doing kind of guy. So I've I've made a lot 489 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: of great lasting friendships. The most amazing aha moments came 490 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: with this. Are you ready? So our first record is breaking. 491 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: We're the first independent band to sell four million records. 492 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: Unheard of, right, it's unheard. So the next thing, you know, 493 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Paul Stanley, I look up, I 494 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: love kiss, I love Zeppelin, I love A C D C. 495 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: So Paul Stanley, you can look this up. He comes 496 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: in and wants to produce our second record. Open up 497 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: and say, oh, we're having dinner a bunch of us 498 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: at the Rainbow. He's talking about life. Then David Lee Ross, 499 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: who I look up to Van Halen, invites us out 500 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: on the Skyscraper tour. I'm like, what's happening right now? 501 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: Like like and there, and I couldn't even hide it, 502 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: Like I'm one of those guys that can't hide my smile. 503 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how to pretend to be cool. I 504 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: don't know how to do it. I don't know, you know, 505 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: people are like, well, you don't want to act over. 506 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: I can't help. This is who I am. I am excited. 507 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: I said. I was in road Triple Za a year 508 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: ago watching them play, and now we're set and having dinner. 509 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: So then David Lee Ross. Then the next thing, Um, 510 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here's Robert Plant. We're getting ready 511 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 1: to do the MTV New Year's Eve special. Can't make 512 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: it up. I'm wearing pants and I forget onto my 513 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: patches sewn on myself horribly right, I go, I got 514 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: these patches and one of them is a big Zeppelin patch. 515 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: He comes into my dressing room and he's like he 516 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: had to be the coolest, funniest self deprecating guy. And 517 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: you know when you pray, you pray that they're gonna 518 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: be as great as you think they are. Because I flew, 519 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: I go, polease, don't be an asshole. My brain thinking 520 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: this while he's speaking, He's like, may I just want 521 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: to know? Do you mind if I get on a 522 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: little I'm doing horrible imitation. It's horrible, but may you 523 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: mind if I go on just a little bit. Look 524 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: at your pants? Is Zeppelin fan all the way? I go, 525 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: My god, you're you're my band. Look at my picture. 526 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: I have a picture Terry Bradshaw on my wood paneling 527 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: wall right in the book Wood Paneling Terry Bradshaw on 528 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: one side of my shoulder, and Jimmy Page and Plant 529 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: on the other side. I said, this is probably one 530 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: of the best moments in my life that goes, well, 531 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: thank you? You mind? If we flipped spots with you, 532 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: I go, mind to take the spot? I would take 533 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: our spot. It's okay, it was so great, So it 534 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: goes further. I do Brazil. I'm I'm just letting this out. 535 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: We play Brazil. I go down to the gym early. 536 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 1: I'm diabetic. I can't sleep at all at all, I'm 537 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: too excited. We're playing the stadium. It's Robert Plant, Aerosmith Poison. 538 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm in the gym, I'm down there. I'm just walking 539 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: in a treadmill and I start running. Next thing, you know, Tyler, 540 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: Steve Ben Tyler walks in as crazy as ever who 541 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: I love and is every time I've been around him great, 542 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's been a great experience. 543 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, Robert Plant comes in, not 544 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: making up one moment of this. We're in sal Pollo. 545 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: I'll never forget this. He goes, Man, you guys work 546 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: out a lot. I'm I couldn't sleep. I'm just gonna 547 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: do an English workout. And he went over. I didn't 548 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: like go on the far suck of the room. There 549 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: was one of those spas. He got in and had 550 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: some champagne or something and beside me talking just yakking away, 551 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: and I'm yakking away and and Robert Plant I go. 552 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: I had to go back up to my hotel room 553 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: and go, did I did any of that just happened? 554 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't have a you know, cell phones one a thing. 555 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: Then I go, did any of this just happened? Or 556 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: did I just dream it. But again, I'm sorry I'm 557 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: taking up your time. Bro. I love this, dude. I 558 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: love it because, you know, because people act like and 559 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: I said this to how Long all the time right 560 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: will happen, And I'll go like, like when you're we're 561 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: hosting the m E's pre show, and like, you gotta 562 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: be fucking kidding me. We are hosting I'm gonna Desk. 563 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: We're finishing off a game Cowboys Eagles. We are the 564 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: last desk on the at the Emmy's red carpet. We 565 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: finish up the pre show and then we throw it 566 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: inside to the host of the Emmy's to kick off 567 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: the Emmy's and we're like at theme and I'm sitting 568 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: there and Harry Long has amen. I know we're supposed 569 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: to act like we've been there before, but funk that 570 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: I haven't. This ship is cool. You know that I 571 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: need you with my kindred spirit. Here's why I give 572 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: the MTV Awards. I'm like, everyone's like, when you go 573 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: in the rack your you know they're trying of a 574 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: public coming. I go, I don't listen. If you ever 575 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: talk to me, I don't know a sound bite. I 576 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: just I just kind of talk and if it works right. 577 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, then that friendship roles, you know, we 578 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: become acquaintances instead of friends, right, And I go, They're like, well, 579 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna act like you've been here before, And I go, 580 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: I never been here before. And I don' act like 581 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: I've been there before. Yeah, I don't want to act 582 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: too cool for school. I want to always. I still, 583 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm never going to put the nero. I will never 584 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: put the nero out of work. My acting sucks, I said, reality, 585 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: I can do this, you know. So I just went 586 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: in there and said I was walking over talking to people, 587 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: hugging him on the carpet. I'm like, how are you doing? 588 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: And it it ended up making some great friendships. But 589 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't help but smile. But that's the authenticity, man, 590 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: which makes you so relatable as you always continue to 591 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: build on yourself and building yourself. If you're authentic, especially 592 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: a day where everything is social media now is so 593 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: filtered and so fake, they're more authentic you are, people 594 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: will just gravitate towards you. Here's the thing. First of all, 595 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: thank you, you're right, And I don't mean myself. I 596 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: will tell people this, I say this to my kids. 597 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: I say this to my family. I never have to 598 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: look over my shoulder. If I'm authentic, if I'm sincere 599 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: and passionate, I never have to look over my shoulder. 600 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: And it's a great feeling because I feel like I'm living. 601 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying the here and now. But always mentally, I'm 602 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: gonna speak for you. We're always pushing forward. We want 603 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: to move the gate forward, you know, faster and more stuff, 604 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: whether it's out of fear or taking that fear and 605 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: turning it into success. And I'll leave you with one 606 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: note for any listener who's feeling down right, I just 607 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: want to say this having a moment, let's call it. 608 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: The most important thing is to remember if you try, 609 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: there is no such thing as absolute failure. There's just 610 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: lesser successes. If I played you the amount of songs 611 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: I have on my phone that became, I thought they 612 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: were the greatest things in the world. They were just 613 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: lesser success as one of them. We have the new 614 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: song there with me. Back in the day, I barely 615 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: put it out as like a flash release. I just 616 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: I said, just throw it out. I spending months building up. 617 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm a rocker. It's either going to hit or it isn't, 618 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,719 Speaker 1: and it blew up because people relate are relating to it. 619 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: But then I have some I think are the greatest 620 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: songs ever and they just missed. But instead of getting bummed, 621 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: I felt that I laid it on the line and 622 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: I did the best I could. That's an amazing way 623 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: to finish this up. Man. I appreciate you. Hey, get 624 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: get my number from Bruce, because you and I we 625 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: gotta rip it up, man, We gotta hang outside of this. 626 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: Definitely definitely got this will be one of them. Lifelong 627 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: friendships have lifelong and I'm not making this up for real. 628 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: You're an inspiration and any time I don't sleep, I've 629 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: given that up. So I was gonna say the anytime 630 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: night or day, man, But this was therapeutic for me, 631 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding you. I looked forward to this. 632 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: So thanks for a great conversation. And you're kicking so 633 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: much ass and helping a lot of people and especially 634 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: our veterans. I do that and leave you with this 635 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: my Life Rocks Foundation, and I'm going to make a 636 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: donation to your foundation. I combined pets and that's um. 637 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: They're on my stage every night I honor the men 638 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: and women and as a whole family, Evet. You know, 639 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: I come from a whole family of vets. Thank you, 640 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: and I'm making a donation. So I'm gonna get your number. 641 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you after this and we're gonna make 642 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: a great donation. You are the best and we're doing 643 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: great work over We have m DP emerging vets and 644 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: players were taking former combat vets and former pro athletes 645 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: emerging together and really working on their mental health and 646 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: just giving him a team again. Because you lose that 647 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: locker room that that's when it sucks you. You know 648 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: when I write my book about how we get through 649 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: the grade, you gotta find your team. When you lose 650 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: your team, it's scary. So man, I really appreciate that. Hey, 651 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: give us anything else you you get coming up that 652 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: you're working on, you got coming out that you can 653 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: promote real quick for us. Well, I just wanted to say, 654 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: first of all, an honor to be on your show. 655 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: There's a brand new song. It's on the house. Just 656 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: go to Brett Michael's YouTube and check out the video 657 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: and the new single. It's just called back in the Day. 658 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: But I advise everyone listening. There's a song I wrote 659 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: with my youngest daughter, Georgia Blue called Unbroken. It exploded 660 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: for many reasons, but you have to watch the video. 661 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: It is inspiring and it's taking that adversity and turning 662 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: it into becoming victorious rather than a victim. And the 663 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: other thing I was gonna say is we've got the 664 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: Party Girl tour coming and this is this is where 665 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna join me on stage and talking about right. 666 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: If you ever see the way I run my stage, 667 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: I've been up there with everyone from Jimmy Page to 668 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett. We come out and it is it is 669 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: go time. There's no no egos, no attitudes. It's just 670 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: a great night. And so make that a plan. I 671 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: am in brother. I appreciate you, man. I can't thank 672 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: you enough for coming on here. Man. I appreciate our 673 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: You know, the rest of our lives we're gonna have together, man, 674 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: And for you and everybody else out there, let's just 675 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: keep walking this walk together. Always always listen, nothing but 676 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: love and respect. You have a great day, my friend, 677 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: and to all your listeners, may they have a great 678 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: and awesome happy New year. Thank you, my brother, Love 679 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: you dude,