1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Okay, before we get to the popular Chris 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Simms of Pro Football Talk, here is Mike McCarthy. He 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: had the press conference yesterday the Cowboys head coach, and 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: they're still discussing that last play. Here's how he described 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: it as far as dak sliding. Given the ball at 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: the center, the center can spot the ball, the receiver 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: can spot the ball. So opinion if you can't spot 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: the ball is not correct. Our guys are trained to 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: spot the ball exactly hall Over free spots, you know. 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: And obviously the umpire has to come in. He all 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: he has to do is touch it. We're in a 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: three two one situation is snapped the ball, So our 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: threshold that situation, based on the plays is thirteen seconds, 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, So we were fourteen seconds, so we're clearly 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: within our range and our thought process areas we have 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: two options. We're looking for a quick throw or the 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: check to the draw. That's the right call based on 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: our preparation. We just got to really look at the 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, the mechanics and the timing of that too. 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: So it's a thirteen second threshold, is the call at 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: fourteen seconds. It's, in my view, the right call. Okay, 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: you had one second margin of error wiggle room. What 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: the hell are you talking about if it's seventeen eighteen seconds? Okay, 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 1: Plus you didn't know what the officials rule was that, 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: but you know what was the role that he was playing. 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: You didn't even make way for him, like, come on in, 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: you got to touch the wall, let's go. You blocked him. 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: Oh man. Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: and of course Football Night in America haven't talked to 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: you since that play. But it just explained the logic. 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: I know, Mike McCarthy's trying to protect Dak Prescott. You know, 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: I was also told that two plays were called, that 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: there would have been a pass play and then there 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: would have been the draw on that because on the 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: run one of the wide receivers is going out for 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: a pass. He not even blocking. So no, no, right, 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand here we did. Was it the 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: right call? I think you you hit on it. You 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: said some really good things right there. You know again 41 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: he's Mike McCarthy's not wrong, and that the referee can 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: just touch it and go. But you know, there's things 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: in that process. My history is this, Can you get 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: a playoff in that situation with twelve, thirteen, fourteen seconds? Yes, 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: you can, But I'm not sure you can get a 46 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: seventeen yard rushing attempt up the middle off in fourteen seconds. 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: And to me, with any team I've been around, and 48 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's John Gruden or the New England 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: Patriots and Josh McDaniels, the threshold for a play for anything, 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: let's say over ten yards to be safe, to let 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: your point to where we're not going. Oh my gosh, 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: we might have point eight seconds. A wiggle room here 53 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: or one second. A wiggle room is seventeen seconds. That's 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: how I was always coaching those situations, and I think 55 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: that holds true. You know, if Dak Prescott slides ten 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: yards earlier, five yards earlier, fine, that'll be okay. You know, 57 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: if he just dumps off a little slant over the middle, 58 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: let's just say to Amari Cooper, boom, he gets it, 59 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: he goes down. Nobody's run all over the field. They're 60 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: expecting to clock it right there where he catches the ball. Okay, 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: fourteen seconds gonna work. Seventeen yard rushing game. No, I 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: don't know about that. And then what it comes into 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: play too, is like you're talking about just the process 64 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: and how they did it, you'll roll out the red 65 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: carpet for the referee. I don't know what Dak Prescott 66 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: was looking at necessarily in that situation, and with that 67 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: type of play too, the touch spot to me is 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: questionable as well as far as McCarthy is explaining it, 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: because again, Dak Prescott started the slide on the twenty 70 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: six yard nine, the Cowboys decided to spot the ball 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: on the twenty three right, they gave themselves three yards, Like, oh, 72 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: where the Cowboys? We'll just give ourselves three yards? How 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: dare they want to spot the ball in the correct place. 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: So there was those issues as well, and even within that, 75 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: the referee, who did a good job hustling down there 76 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: and trying to help out the Cowboys, Dak Prescott runs 77 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: into him. Man, he was wrong in the fact that 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: he didn't even spot the ball in the right spot. 79 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: He was the whole Cowboy team is off sides really too. 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: So to me, again, not a bad call, it's just 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: a process of how they went about it that I 82 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: think is a little skeptical at this point. All right, 83 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: let's move to the playoff teams. You have more confidence 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: in Ryan Tannehill to win a game for the Titans 85 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: or Jimmy Garoppolo to win a game for the Niners. 86 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill one hundred percent, Like I mean, we're talking about, like, 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, just one hundred percent, yes, one hundred percent, 88 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: one hundred percent confident that I'm going Tannehill there. Um, 89 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: I like, Jimmy g we know it. But I mean, 90 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: come on, come on, we all know it's a flip 91 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: of the coin sometimes at the end of the football 92 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: game with him, Just like last week, it's twenty three 93 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: to seven, Brandon Ayuk's wide open, there's nobody in the screen. 94 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna put the game away right there. He misses 95 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: the throw the interception itself. It was a five yard 96 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: crossing route. He did not get the ball within five 97 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: feet of the receiver. He couldn't even get a hand 98 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: on it. Interception. So that I worry about. Tannehill doesn't 99 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: do stuff like that. He has great control of the football, 100 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, and he's a really accurate thrower. So I mean, 101 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: I think you're asking me, like four minutes left in 102 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: the game. One quarterback would I take. I'm taking Tannehill. 103 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: And I wonder how much can you how much do 104 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals expect to see Derrick Henry this weekend? I 105 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: think they got to prepare for we're gonna see the 106 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: full effect of him, just to get your mind right, 107 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: you know. And of course, if he is there and 108 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: it is the full effect of him, you gotta make 109 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: sure you got your game plan in the right way 110 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: and the ducks in a row as far as stopping 111 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: that aspect, So I would approach it. If I'm the 112 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: Bengals to go, it's gonna be Derrick Henry time. Let's 113 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: just get our minds ready for that. And if it's 114 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: not him, great, we dodged a bullet. We don't have 115 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: to deal with him that much. Great, that's awesome. But 116 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: I would be more worried about that aspect than not. 117 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: And yes, he's he's a game changer. We know that. 118 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: He's first ballot Hall of Famer running back, in my opinion, 119 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: one of the all time greats. And he can break 120 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: an eighty yard run, or when there's nothing there to 121 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: be had, he could still get three or four yards. 122 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: And to me, the other thing that's gonna really be 123 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: a jump off thing. Jump off spot is he's gonna 124 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: open up their play action pass game. They want to 125 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: be like the two thousand and three two thousand and 126 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: four Patriots. They want to run the ball, play defense, 127 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Brady make some clutch, big throws for us in some 128 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: big moments. They're gonna ask Hannah Hill to do that. 129 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the way they want to play. I'm 130 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: excited for that game. I have pleaded with the audience, 131 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: football fans, the media. We got to come up with 132 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: a better nickname than Joe Cool for Joe Burrow. That's 133 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: not fair. That's not fair to Montana. Yeah, you're right, 134 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: you're right, And you've said Joe Cool. You you said 135 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: this on Football Knight in America. That's that you should 136 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: be ashamed of yourself. You know you're right. I mean, 137 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: good for you to slap me around a little bit. Yeah, 138 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: get on me a little Yeah, we do have to go. 139 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: It is disrespectful to the original Joe Cool. I mean, 140 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Burrow is he's cool, so it's just easy to go 141 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: with that. But I don't know, I'm not that creative. 142 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for Broadway Joe I mean, you know, right, 143 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what street he lives on in Cincinnati, 144 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: but I hope it's not Broadway because it'll be like, yeah, Broadway, Joe. No, 145 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: you can't have that one either. No, you can't have 146 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: You're right, we can't infringe on copyright, you know, as 147 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: far as great nicknames that way. But one thing I 148 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: always call him is a slippery s ob. That's what 149 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: I do. Call him the natural. That's another nickname. You 150 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: can't take that one either. I know, Okay, that's just 151 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: a movie. It's not a real person. So I thought 152 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: maybe I could go there with that one, but something 153 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: along those lines, because man, I love watching Joe Burrow. 154 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: I love that offense. And even though I think people 155 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: are disrespecting the Titans, the Titans their past defense, this 156 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: offense come into the town. Who's got every play in 157 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: the book and talent. I think that could be an 158 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: interesting game just because of Burrow and that offense and 159 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: how they run things. Give me your quarterback ratings. I 160 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: always have great respect for how you rank quarterbacks. Those 161 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: who are still in the playoffs. Give me these eight 162 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and how you who's won and how they're playing 163 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: right now. Right, Okay, so number one is man, you're 164 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: putting me under the gun here, I think I go 165 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: right now. And I understand Aaron Rodgers in the MVP, 166 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: but I'd probably put Josh Allen number one. Right now. 167 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: I'd probably go Alan one, I would, you know, Allan 168 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: and Mahomes, even though you know, even Mahomes didn't have 169 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: his greatest year to me, are just they're they're so 170 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: dangerous in these situations. You know, they're like Rogers was, 171 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: let's say four or five years ago. Rogers needs again 172 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: now a little protection. He can't make the magic happen 173 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: as far as extending plays like he used to. You know, 174 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: remember the old days. He used to sit back there 175 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: and hop and wiggle around and move and make people 176 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: miss and then oh, if I gotta break the pocket, 177 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: I will. You know, that's kind of Mahomes in Allan. 178 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: Now you can't contain them in the pocket. Put a 179 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: quarterback spy on them. Great. I watch it all the time, 180 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: and doesn't do Jack Diddaly squad. So there's just so 181 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: many plays where I look at and I go the 182 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: defense won this play, and these two damn guys still 183 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: got a twenty yard game and that's where they're amazing. 184 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: So I'd probably go Allan won Mahomes too. Rogers three, 185 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: Brady four just over Borough five, Stafford six, Tannehills seven, 186 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: Garoppolo eight. Okay with that, Yeah, yeah, Josh Allen through 187 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: the perfect game in the game against the Patriots. That's 188 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: as good at football as you could play. And Mahomes 189 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: take away the strip sector the exactly the strip six. 190 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: He threw five touchdown palaces in less than eleven minutes. Right, 191 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like the Kansas City Chiefs. They're 192 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: like the Golden State Warriors from a few years ago. 193 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: You go, oh, this team's up by ten and they're 194 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: control of the game, and all of a sudden you're looking. 195 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: You go, what the Warriors are up by twenty. Yeah, 196 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: it's four minutes later. How did this happen? I've never 197 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: seen a team that can just catch on fire like 198 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm really excited for that one. 199 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: To me, I think we're getting close to this is 200 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: the modern day Manning Brady is Alan versus Mahomes. You know, 201 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: Mahomes we know is in all probably greater than Josh Allen. 202 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: We know he's won the Super Bowl, he's you know, 203 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: one two AFC Championship games. But I will say this, 204 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has outplayed Patrick Mahomes the last two seasons 205 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's the greatest one man show in 206 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: the sport. Right now. I mean, oh, hey, it's starting two. 207 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: We need a first down. Oh just let's pull two 208 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: guards and give the ball to Josh Allen and he'll 209 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: run up in there and run for a forty yard 210 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: game like he's Cam Newton. Oh now, we need him 211 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: to scramble or be precise with passing. He's got it all, 212 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: just like Mahomes, except maybe a little bit more size 213 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: and ability to move the chains with his legs and 214 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: in a traditional running form. There he's Chris Simms from 215 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: Football Night in America Pro Football Talk Live, co host 216 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: with Mike Florio. Yeah, there were times when I didn't 217 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: want Josh Allen or any of my quarterbacks to run. 218 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Now when I watch Buffalo, I realize he has to run, 219 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: and he's such a valuable weapon. The quarterback with the 220 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: most pressure this weekend is I think it's Oh, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, 221 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: I think that's the one I would look at again. 222 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: He is very legacy aware, But what are we talking about? 223 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: If the Packers lose to the Niners. And the Packers 224 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: lose to the Niners, we're gonna just hear all the 225 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: same stuff we always hear from people who want to 226 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: hate or be negative about Aaron Right, Oh, he lost 227 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: a big game again, he can't win the big one. 228 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: There are the number one seed and they lost at 229 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: home to the forty nine. Here's which I understand. I mean, 230 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: that's legitimate. I get that, you know. I know again again, 231 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: there's a few times I'd say, Hey, the Seattle NFC 232 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: championship game, that wasn't his fault. Come on, you know 233 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: last year certainly wasn't his fault either. Did some really 234 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: good things out played Brady. We know that. But there's 235 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: been other games. Where are they the Falcons and the 236 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: forty nine ers the first time around there a few 237 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: years ago, Yeah, it wasn't good. You know, this is big, 238 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: not only I think for him personally, but just in 239 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: the scope and the eyes of the normal common football fan. 240 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: If they lose this, everyone looks at them as a 241 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: super Bowl contender. And I'm one that's been saying I 242 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: don't think the Packers are a Super Bowl team. I 243 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: don't know that necessarily means I'm not gonna pick them 244 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: this week, but I think the forty nine ers post 245 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: some real issues for them. I bet you when they 246 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: saw they had to play the forty nine ers, they went, ah, man, 247 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: I wish we were playing the Rams. They match up 248 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: better with them, you know, And that's where it's going 249 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: to be scary. And I would not be shocked at 250 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers went up there and upset Green 251 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: Bay this weekend. The Rams will upset the Buccaneers because 252 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: of their offense or their defense. Yeah, it's their defense 253 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: has the number of the Bucks offense and the fact 254 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: of the Bucks. There's very few defenses they don't actually 255 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: match up well, and you go, oh, advantage Bucks, But 256 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: the Rams are one of those where I go, oh, 257 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, there might be an actual advantage here 258 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: for the Rams and one of the few teams. Every 259 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: team's got their kryptonite Bucks so big and powerful up front. 260 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: The Rams are all small and size predicated. I mean 261 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: their defensive tackle Aaron Donald is two eighty games, is 262 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: only two ninety. They don't have those big space eaters 263 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: like a Vita Veyor and Dominican sue. But that poses 264 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: problems for a bigger, lumbering offensive line for the Bucks 265 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: who have not who have shown in the last two 266 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: years their inability to you know, kind of get hold 267 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: of these guys in the run game, and they're able 268 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: to beat them in the pass rush as well. So 269 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: I guess I would look at that as again, it 270 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: goes back to something we talk about a lot with Brady. 271 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: You can get there with the four disrupt them with that, 272 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: we know the one week part of his game, as 273 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: he can get a little flinchy in the pocket. But 274 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: here's one other aspect Dan that I think is really 275 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: interesting too, because I do think the Rams are gonna 276 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: be able to move the ball on this Bucks defense. 277 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: Can they protect Stafford well enough? And especially without Whitworth there, 278 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: the d line for the Bucks is healthy. I think 279 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: the Rams pose some real problems for the Bucks, but 280 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: I do worry about their ability to block all four 281 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: of those guys. That's probably the weak spot of the 282 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: team in my opinion with the Rams. Is the offensive 283 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: line coached well. They do things the right way, It's 284 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: just not overly talented, and this is a game I'd 285 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: be worried about that. I'm getting smashed a little bit upfront. 286 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: Oh leave you with this. Tell me why Jim Harball 287 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: would leave Michigan. Let's say it is the Raiders. Why 288 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: would he leave now? I think he just wants to 289 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: be in the NFL. I think that's where I look 290 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: at it. I think he looks at the NFL and 291 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: goes way that maybe suits me better. You know, I 292 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: don't have to talk and be weird in recruiting kids 293 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: or parents because I'm weird socially anyways. And Jim Harbaugh 294 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: and I think that's his lifelong dream I do. I 295 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: think it's to win a Super Bowl. Do that. But again, 296 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: like the one thing, I don't hear anything from the 297 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: people I know in football, and you know, I know 298 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: some people to know that there's legitimate interest any for 299 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh to me, I think he's putting this out there. 300 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: He's fishing he would like to leave Michigan. I guess 301 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: to go back to the NFL and just have that lifestyle. Again. 302 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: College is a different game. It's less xs and os. 303 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: It's more about talking conversations with parents, kids, managing a situation. 304 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I could never do that and 305 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I can imagine him getting getting sick of that as well. 306 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: Is it the right move for the Raiders, that's questionable. 307 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: You know, the Raiders have some things there about their 308 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: coaching staff that I would be real careful about letting 309 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: go of Rich Bisaccia and the rest of that crew there. 310 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: Like you watched the Raiders, I watched the Raiders. I 311 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: don't sit there and go, oh my gosh, they're so talented. Man. 312 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: Did they underperform this year? They should have been in 313 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: the championship game or the Super Bowl. No, not at all, 314 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, Basacia, I do think it's worthy of being 315 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: a head coach. Greg Olsen's a good offensive coordinator. Gus 316 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Bradley does a good job with that defense. He invented 317 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: the Seattle scheme. I wouldn't just throw that out the 318 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: window for anybody. And you know, yeah, and not for 319 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: Jim Harball. Ware again, I know after three years, everybody 320 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: gets sick of him. You know, he treats people not 321 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: the greatest at times. He didn't treat me good. I 322 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: don't like him. I root for against him all the time. 323 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't like Jim Harball. You know, it's way, what 324 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: did Harball do to you. Oh, he was such a jerk. 325 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: One of my first interviews I ever had at Bleacher Report, 326 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: he stopped the interview like after my third question because 327 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: I asked him about Colin Kaepernick's contract situation, and he 328 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: took off as Mike and said, see, I'm done with 329 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: this and tell your dad. I said hi, and that 330 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: was it. So from that point on, I root against 331 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: I root for Ohio State always, and root against Jim Harball. 332 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: Screw him, But he was thoughtful to say tell your 333 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: dad high Yeah, what a nice guy, what a nice yea. 334 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: And then I know too many stories about again everything 335 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: the coaches that have worked for him. Hey, he went 336 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: to Michigan, he took the job. He didn't even tell 337 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: any of his coaches in the San Francisco staff. He 338 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: just called them, was like, hey, I'm in Michigan. I'm 339 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: staying here. You guys figure it out yourselves. Oh, great coach, 340 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: thank you for being such a great leader. So stuff 341 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: like that where I'm very loving of John Harball. I 342 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: think he's the man and has the mightas touch with people. 343 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: Jim not so much. Could you take Harball? Would I 344 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: take Harball? Could you take him? Yes? I can, right, 345 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: now at this I mean he's he's a scary s ob, 346 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: and he's weird, and he's tough, there's no doubt. But 347 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: he's not taking me right now at my age. Okay, 348 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: who are you guys taking, Paulie. I mean I'm going 349 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: to Harballaba. Harball has got crazy strength. He would do 350 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: whatever it would take. He would chew off his arm 351 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: to get out of you know, one of yours. I 352 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: am the guy that lost the spleen and kept playing 353 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: and I got crazy strano. All right, boo boo, you 354 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: lost a spleen? Right, come on, Polly lost an eye, pall, 355 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: he's got one good eye, PAULI, who do you chase? 356 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Sim's the eye? Yeah? This is tough. I mean, Abbas 357 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: probably got two spleens, knowing him with all that milk. 358 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: He you know what, Chris is younger, he's got a 359 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: lot more reach. But he would have to kill Harbaugh 360 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: for the fight to be over. And I don't Chris 361 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: doesn't mean like that. Okay. See, I don't want to 362 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 1: kill anybody. See you got sims or horriball. You know. 363 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: I've met Jack Harbaugh and I don't see anyway that 364 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: his son is losing a fight. Wow, have you met 365 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: Phil Sims? I mean, have you met him? Well, that 366 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: is true, because I'm making Phil over Jack all day long. Well, no, 367 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: I would take, and I would take your dad. Okay, 368 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: your dad's your dad's a tough guy. Fritzie, you're taking 369 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: Sims or hardball? I gotta go, Chris. He's an extremely 370 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: nice guy, but I have a feel he can flip 371 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: that switch and find that dark side of kind of 372 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: losing it. Definitely. Again, I'm the temperamental person in my 373 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: family or out of all my friends. You guys just 374 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen it. But now that you pick so many 375 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: of you picked hardball, you're gonna see it. Next time 376 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: I come up there, I'm gonna see it. I'm gonna 377 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: put all your asses in a headlock and we'll see. 378 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: Then you'll understand what we're talking about. Here. Have a 379 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: great weekend, Chris Man, Thank be good, your jerks, all 380 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: of you. Thank you. Funny. You know, if we get 381 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: Sims when he's on his medicinal marijuana trip, then I'm okay, 382 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: he's more chill. We can take him, you know, when 383 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: he's going to the dispensary. I think the headline thanks 384 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Booker, thanks 395 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: for joining us. How you feeling today? Doing good? DP man, 396 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: how are you doing, buddy? Don't okay, don't okay. I 397 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: was curious when you know, when you watch these games, 398 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, usually I start there and what they do 399 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: is very noticeable, especially when you have a premier player 400 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: there like an Aaron Donald or Fletcher Cox or and 401 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: Dominican Sumes somebody like that. That'll catch my eye initially, 402 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: But if you're going to really follow the game and 403 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: learn the game and study the game, you kind of 404 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: have to morph out and look at the other parts 405 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: of the play. Tom Brady said that it's rare when 406 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: he gets a roughing the passer call, and it feels 407 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: like Tom is maybe officiated different than other quarterbacks. Did 408 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: you ever feel that way that you could do certain 409 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: things with one quarterback but you couldn't get away with 410 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: that with somebody else. Yeah, that's life. I mean, it's 411 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: just kind of that's kind of dp That's how it 412 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: goes in life. Man, Like we all aren't afforded afforded 413 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: the same luxuries based on who we are in our 414 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: relationships and who we know. And you know, if our 415 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: name is a little bit bigger and a little bit 416 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: more statured, and we can get away with other things. 417 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: Football is just a microcause in my life, Like, that's 418 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: no different than what we deal with every day. So yeah, 419 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: you know Brady treated differently, well, listen, and he should be, 420 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: like if you really just look at it, he's earned 421 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: the right to get the benefit of the doubt. Like 422 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: when you played in this game for a long time 423 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: and you got pellets on the wall, you've earned the 424 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: right to get the benefit of the doubt. And so 425 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: he is. And I have really no problem with it. Yeah, 426 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: but I always wondered about this that Michael Jordan would 427 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: get all the calls. Well, Michael Jordan didn't need all 428 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: the calls. But for some reason, the best players get 429 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: the calls. It's the guys who are the marginal players 430 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: that need a call, not the star power guy. I know, 431 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: we want to see the stars be stars. But I 432 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: talked to a former player in the NBA and he said, 433 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: if Michael Jordan went down the lane, somebody was going 434 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: to get whistled for a foul, whether you foul him 435 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: or not. And he said there'll be time when I, 436 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, I thought I was called for a foul. 437 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: Didn't even touch Michael Jordan, he said, but he was Michael. 438 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: That doesn't seem fair. It doesn't seem fair. But I 439 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: think the reason that happens is this is that we're 440 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: used to those great players doing great things, and if 441 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: and when they do not do great things, then something 442 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: must happen, like like these officials only human also. And 443 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: so if I'm sitting back there and Tom Brady just 444 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: sail the ball five yards over somebody's head and I 445 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: just happened at glance up and I look back down 446 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: and Brady's on the ground and he gives me the 447 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: hands up sign like, hey, did you see that. I'm 448 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: probably gonna give him the benefit of the doubt more 449 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: cases than not. Let's look back on the teams that 450 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: lost this last weekend. I asked this yesterday, the team 451 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: that lost in the playoffs that has the best chance 452 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: of advancing further next year? The Patriots won our poll question. 453 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: I want to know if you agree with that that 454 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: they have the better chance of all these teams of 455 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: going further next year. Well, if you're saying the Patriots, 456 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: then obviously you believe in mac Jones, which I do. 457 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: I think he was really the steal of the draft 458 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: to get a franchise quarterback with that much upside. I 459 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: think he was drafted at fifteen. You must really believe 460 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: in him. Number one two, you must think that they're 461 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: going to get a lot more athletic and a lot 462 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: faster on defense, because if you saw the difference between 463 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Patriots, the speed factor was, it 464 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: was a glaring difference. I don't know if they're gonna 465 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: do that, So I'm not gonna say the Patriots. I 466 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: would probably say the Cowboys, and everybody's gonna say, were 467 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: are they changing coaches? Are they changing this, are they 468 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: changing that. They're probably not, based on the reports that 469 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: have come out, but they're just so talented and it's 470 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they're the most disappointing team 471 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: this season. No, I wouldn't, because at some point you 472 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: have to have continuity to continue to climb the mountain. 473 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: Changing coaches is not going to do anything but solve 474 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: the moment. It doesn't solve the problem of the discipline 475 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: of the players. And so, yeah, we can change coaches, 476 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: and as fans and broadcasters and people who have shows, 477 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: it gives us good fodder. But at the end of 478 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: the day, does that make your team better? The problem 479 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys is not the coach. The problem is 480 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: the coach. I don't think it is empowered to the 481 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: level that a coach needs to be because of the 482 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: owner of the GM, the family that owns the Cowboys. 483 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: And so you run into that situation where you can 484 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: change the coach and you can bring in this tough 485 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: disciplinarian Jimmy Johnson and that of the Lights. But we 486 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: saw how it ended with Jimmy Johnson because Jimmy Johnson, 487 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: the disciplinarian, the guy who runs the show ultimately got 488 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more shined than the owner, and we 489 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: all know he didn't like that. If Jim, if Jerry 490 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: Jones had hired a GM, a true GM, twenty years 491 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: ago and finish that sentence, then the Cowboys would probably 492 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: have two to three more rooms, and Jerry Jones would 493 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: not be as popular as he is now. But I 494 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: do think the value of the Cowboys franchise would be 495 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: at the very minimum where it's at now. So this 496 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily come down to a how do I make 497 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: my business better? Like I always look at NFL teams 498 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: like businesses like Chick fil A or Bank of America 499 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: or some corporate company, how do we make them better? 500 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: This isn't about that, because the Cowboys are the priminent 501 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: franchise that comes to value and worth and how we 502 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: look at them. This is about one thing. Then this 503 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: is about control. Hey, this is my team. I'm gonna 504 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: run it my way and do what it do what 505 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: with it how I please. And when you're a bigg there, 506 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm assuming I wouldn't know that. Maybe you can tell 507 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: me you get to do what it is that you 508 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: like to do, what you're billion dollars and Jerry's doing that. So, Dan, 509 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: consider the fact that there are two of us on 510 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: this call, and one of us is a billionaire. You 511 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: tell me how to billionaires treat their money. They just 512 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: I just keep all of it to myself, very very 513 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: cautious in what I do. But you know what Jerry's 514 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: ego like, he wants the like getting the credit is 515 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: so important for him, and as a result, he doesn't 516 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: see what the bottom line could be, and that is 517 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: we could be winning championships. And I know that they've 518 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: done well in the draft. Michael Parsons fell to them. 519 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if they wanted him. I thought that 520 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: he was the impactful player in the draft. They didn't 521 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: want Dak Prescott, they wanted Connor Cook, they wanted Jerry, 522 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: wanted Johnny Manzel. Like, there are these moments where they 523 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: have benefited. It's but it's not by design. You're right, 524 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: they've benefited, and you know, Jerry ultimately, I think Steven 525 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: has been good for Jerry because I think Steven has 526 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: given him a little bit of balance. You know, we 527 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: all know who Jerry liked, and thankfully Steven's there to say, hey, 528 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: I know you like this guy. Quite frankly, you're like everybody, 529 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: but we can't draft them all. How's this gonna make 530 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: our team better? So I give Stephen a lot of credit. 531 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: I give Will McClay, I give him a lot of cred. 532 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: Also a guy in that personnel department who helps. But 533 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: Jerry is Jerry has to be rained in and told no. 534 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure Jeff Bezos has to be rained in and 535 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: told no at some point, Like when you reach a 536 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: certain level of of monetary value and economic status, you 537 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: have to have people in your life that are willing 538 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: to say no, not just yes. Man. And I think 539 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: over the course of years, Jerry Steven has been developed 540 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: or he's developed to be that. I just think Jerry 541 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: ultimately has the final say so and until he relinquishes 542 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: that that part of the general manager hat. And I 543 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: think the Boys are going to be in a position 544 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: because you know as well as I know, a team 545 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: that's the most penalized team in the league. That is 546 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: a reflection of the coach. Well, that means you need 547 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: to tougher coach. That means you need a coach that's 548 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: going to emphasize because you are what you emphasize. No 549 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: different in life. And so Mike McCarthy has to change 550 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,239 Speaker 1: personality wise. But guess what, he's the exact personality that 551 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: Jerry wants because he can and I'm not saying that 552 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: he's telling telling. Jerry's telling Mike what to do and 553 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: what to say at practice. But ultimately Jerry knows that 554 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: Mike can kind of beat to the drum that he 555 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: says beat too. Talking to Booger McFarlane, the espen NFL analyst, 556 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: the most dangerous quarterback left in the playoffs is Josh 557 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: out and he's got to be because this team is 558 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: so quarterback centric. They can't do anything offensively without the quarterback. 559 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: And you say, well, Booger, isn't that every team I 560 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: present to you the Tennessee Titans, because if Derek Henry 561 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: shows up and they run the football the way they 562 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: can run it, they really don't need Ryan Tannan here 563 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: to do anything except Hey, remember we're wearing blue jerseys, 564 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: and every now and then throw it to the guy 565 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: wearing the blue jerseys. Let's take, for instance, the La 566 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: Rams when they run the football the way they ran 567 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: at the other night and day and against arizonam Matthew 568 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: Stafford was a secondary part of the game plan. So 569 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has to be the focus because he's gonna 570 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: run it ten to fifteen times this weekend, and he's 571 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: probably gonna throw it another forty to fifty times, and 572 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: then that might not be enough because of the guy 573 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: he's going against is arguably the most talented guy we've 574 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: ever seen at the position, in Patrick Mahomes. So yeah, 575 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, is that dude? You think Mahomes is more 576 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: talented than Aaron Rodgers. Yes, I do, just because, like 577 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: Aaron is gifted and we've seen Aaron do it for 578 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: a long time, but Mahomes is doing things. Maybe he's 579 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: got he's got a flair for the dramatic a little 580 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: bit with the Nola passes and some of this up 581 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: like he's a showman. And I think that that in 582 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: in large part would give a lot of people the 583 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: same thought process when it comes to that, Like I 584 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: would put my Homes just a little bit above Aaron, 585 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: especially now now Aaron at his peak, and that probably 586 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: that probably wasn't what but right now, yeah, I think 587 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: Mahomes is the most talented guy in the sport right now. 588 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: Josh Allen twenty nine passing touchdowns under pressure since twenty twenty, 589 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: first among all quarterbacks. Yeah, don't you know why? Why 590 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: Because he's six five two forty five and he knows 591 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: even when pressure is coming doesn't affect him. Because remember 592 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: remember Dan, and this goes great because we just got 593 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: through celebrating Big Band and what he was and first 594 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: Battle of Hall of Famer. He's a modern day Big Band. 595 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: That's that's as athletic as um some of these running quarterbacks, 596 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: like I guarantee Josh Allen is probably a four six 597 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: four van gown. He can run and so imagine Big 598 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: Ben as tough as he was to tackle him the pocket. 599 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: But now when he breaks the pocket, he can run 600 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: four or five four six and get first downs. That's 601 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: what Josh Allen is. So it doesn't surprise me because 602 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: he's not afraid of pressure. He's not afraid of being hit. 603 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: He's not afraid of being tackled. Most quarterbacks who are 604 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: afraid of being hit wilt under pressure. That's why you 605 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 1: always say blitz the quarterback. Look at Matthew Stafford. Matthew 606 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Stafford shribbles under pressure. We saw Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray 607 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: Monday Night, he shribbled under pressure. Tom Brady. If you're 608 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: blowing him, he'll fall down like it doesn't those guys. 609 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: Those guys don't want to get hit. Josh Shallon doesn't care. 610 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: You never got Brady, did you. No? I never sack Brady. 611 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: I pressed him a few times. I knocked him upside 612 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: the head. He felt me. He probably complained the water 613 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: Anderson of somebody or in hockey about me. But nine, 614 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: I've never got him. In your last five career games, 615 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: you had four sacks, including one in the Super Bowl 616 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: on Rex Grossman. That was the only sack buy a 617 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: Colts player in the super Bowl. That doesn't really count. 618 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: If you sacked Rex Grossman. Come on, what do you 619 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: mean it doesn't count. It's on the statistic. If if 620 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna take that sack away, then you better sure 621 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: as hell better take Michael straighthand sackle Brett Fariba away. 622 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: Should TJ. Watt be the old time single season leader? 623 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. You tell me, since you're taking sax 624 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: away this morning, then ever, then it meet Friday's not 625 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: coming soon enough for you. Look, if you were in studio, 626 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be saying this. I'm sure you want uh No, 627 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: t J. Watch shouldn't be the all time sack leader. 628 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: Regardless of how Michael straighthand got it, you got to 629 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: give him credit for it. And we can think of 630 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: it what we made, which I think a lot of 631 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: us think it was given to him. He still got 632 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: it and there's nothing wrong with that. So t J. 633 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: Watt had several opportunities. And I'm sure if you go back, 634 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: we used to do this thing called at the end 635 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: of every year. Our d line coach used to make 636 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: a real and he called it close but no cigar, 637 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: which is every sack that we should have had, could 638 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: have had, but we didn't get. And I guarantee you 639 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: when t J. Wyt goes back and looks at his 640 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: clothes but no cigar, real, he's gonna see another ten sacks. Book. 641 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: Are great to talk to you is always have fun 642 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: this weekend with the games, and thanks for joining us 643 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: DP anytime. Always And I see al Michael's over your 644 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: right shoulder with a nice little sign picture. At some 645 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: point my goal is I'm gonna send you a picture 646 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: and hopefully I achieve a level of status where you 647 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: put my picture in the studio. At some point you're 648 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: you're you know what I'm looking at the video. Rex 649 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: Grossman's falling down. You're not even really sacking him. I 650 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: mean you just kind of fell on him. Booger. Come on, Dan, Dan, 651 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna preserve our friendship by saying goodbye now all right, 652 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: thank you, book and send me that autograph picture. That's uh, 653 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: the great Booger McFarland. We'll come back. Phone calls coming 654 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: up next year. Dan, He's gonna beat one of us up. Yeah, 655 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: I know he's not gonna hear you. He's got to 656 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: go through you guys to get to me, no problem. 657 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: I am watching the clip. Rex Grossman starts losing his 658 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: feet on the turf, and Booger just shows up at 659 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: the right time. Well, it was raining down there in 660 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: South Florida. Was sort of built like the Bears line too, 661 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: doesn't get true? Yeah, come on, that doesnt That was 662 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: the worst serial because it's the Bears fan. You get 663 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: to open a kickoff, You're like, hey, we oh yeah, 664 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: we got a shot here, and Tony Dungee said, I'm 665 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: not kicking. I'm not going to kick to Devin Hester, 666 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: and then he kicked to him and then he ran 667 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: ran it back for a touchdown. Thanks for listening to 668 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 669 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to 670 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find 671 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us 672 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Check if you want exclusive 673 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: insight from the biggest names in the sports game. What's good? 674 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: This is national champion and former pro baller Chris Johnson. 675 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: Let me take you a little bit about my new 676 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: series kJ Live. J Live is the only show featuring 677 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: me going one on one with the brightest basketball minds 678 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: on the planet to get the real And when I 679 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: say real, I mean that real. I got legendary Hall 680 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: of Famers, elite coaches, and the top basketball inside is 681 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: bringing you a unique perspective on all things hoops culture 682 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: that you will not find anywhere. To make your next move, 683 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: your best move, can tap in with me on kJ 684 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: live wherever you get your podcast from. Bill Orem covers 685 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: the Lakers for the Athletic. He's been a busy guy. 686 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: If somebody didn't see the game last night, how would 687 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: you describe how the Lakers played well? I think at 688 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: the end of the game, I tweeted that it was 689 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: a dreadful result, and you know, it's it's really an 690 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: accumulation of a lot of things. The Pacers aren't very good. 691 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: They've lost ten of their last eleven games. The Lakers 692 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: had a fifteen point lead in the first quarter, they 693 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: got thirty points from Lebron James, and you know, I'd 694 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: say Russell Westbrook wasn't doing the thing that we usually 695 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: think of as being bad RUSS things. He only had 696 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: one turnover, he shot four of six from three, but 697 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: he still ended up having a terrible night from the field. 698 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: He was not finishing around the rim, and he ends 699 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: the night on the bench, something we haven't seen this 700 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: year with Frank Vogel, who's kind of, you know, really 701 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: coaching for his job, as we reported earlier this week 702 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: on kind of a night to night basis, you know, 703 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: throwing the kitchen sink at the Pacers, which in this 704 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: case was not playing the highest the forty four million 705 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: dollars guy. Yeah, I'm just I'm just trying to understand 706 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: if this is fixable, Bill, because it feels like, okay, 707 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: get rid of the coach. That doesn't fix effort, and 708 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: a lot of what I saw or what I see 709 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: on defensively is there's no effort, So how do you 710 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: fix this? Can you fix this this season? Yeah? I 711 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: mean that's I think that's what the front office is way. 712 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: You know, what do you sacrifice this season in the 713 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: name of, you know, pursuing a championship when that might 714 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: already be lost with this team. And you know, you 715 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: do see coaching changes sort of shake up a team, psyche, 716 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: give them a kickstart, you know, a kick in the butt, whatever. 717 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: But we've also seen the Lakers play for David Fizdale 718 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: this year. They went one and four with him when 719 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: when Frank Vogel had COVID And that's maybe an unfair 720 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: way of judging David Fizdale as a potential replacement, given 721 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: all the all that was going on with replacement players. 722 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: But I do think the Lakers sort of got a 723 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: glimpse of what that might look like. And if they 724 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: weren't you know, you know, if they weren't really excited 725 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: about that, you know, maybe that gives them pause on 726 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: making a change. And you know, last the last previous 727 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: two years, Jason Kidd was on the bench, and that 728 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: was somebody the Lakers held in really high regard. Somebody who, 729 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: if not for some of the baggage, might have been 730 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: a candidate for the head coaching job in twenty nineteen. Instead, 731 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: he kind of comes to the Lakers and rehabs his image. 732 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: He would have been a likely He would have been 733 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: a really obvious replacement if there was a mid season 734 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: firing while he was on the bench. It's less obvious 735 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: now with David Fizdale and Phil Handy and Mike Penberthy 736 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: as the lead assistants. So it's really what what do 737 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: you want to sacrifice this year in the pursuit of 738 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: something short term when you know, I don't like like 739 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: like like you Dan, you know, this doesn't seem like 740 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: something that is just going to UM is going to 741 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: change with a new voice. What can they do with 742 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: the trade deadline? Very limited? Right? I mean they have, 743 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, basically three tradeable pieces. When you look at UM, 744 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: you know Taylor Horton Tucker who makes ten million dollars, 745 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunn makes five million dollars, and then they have 746 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: a first round pick way out in twenty twenty seven, 747 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: when you know, hopefully I'm going to be on a 748 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: rowboat fishing for fast somewhere by then but um, but 749 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, and then and then yeah, okay, maybe you 750 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: got some second round picks. We know they were interested 751 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: in Cam Reddish from the Hawks for you within the Knicks, 752 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 1: and they were thrown around a couple of second rounders. 753 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: They have the minimum contracts. I mean, here's one thing 754 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: the Lakers have an abundance of. It's a bunch, it's 755 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: it's it's minimum contracts that are totally disposable because they 756 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: signed so many guys in the offseason who are not 757 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: playing and are not contributing. So if they needed to 758 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: get you know, up to five million dollars, there's seven 759 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: million dollars on contracts and then throwing second round picks 760 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: as sweeteners. You could trade Kent Baysmore, DeAndre Jordan, Wayne 761 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: Ellington because those guys aren't contributing right now in the 762 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: near term. But again, if we're talking about pht Kendrick 763 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: Nunn and then that first down the road, what are 764 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: you getting back that is actually going to make it 765 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: make it worth it? Because Taylor Corton Tucker, with only 766 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: a year and a half left on his contract, has 767 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: more value to the Lakers than anyone else. They're the 768 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: ones that you found him, developed him, have some confidence 769 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: in him, have the relationship. I don't know that anybody 770 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: else values him as highly as the Lakers do, and 771 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: especially as a ten million dollars a year player. So 772 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really hard to find an impact player 773 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: at the deadline for the Lakers. Anybody interested in Russell Westbrook, 774 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's always a chance. You know, one 775 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: thing I think we've learned in the NBA is that 776 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: there's there is no such thing as an unfrainable contract. 777 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 1: But I do think that we are getting very close 778 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: to the stage where Russ is an untradable player. UM 779 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: the contract on top of the way he plays, the 780 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: way he changes your system, the way everything becomes about Russ, 781 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: and and sort of the diminishing returns we've seen with 782 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: him as a player, I think makes him, you know, 783 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: really really difficult to move. And you know, that's kind 784 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: of why a lot of people were so caught so 785 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: off guard by the Lakers making that investment in the 786 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: off season. That it was, um a really big swing, 787 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: but also a really big risk. And when you take 788 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: that risk, you don't have other cards to play. You 789 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: have you have expended your bank account. It's like going 790 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: all in on on your you know, on your sixteen 791 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: year olds lemonade stand and realizing nobody's thirsty. It just 792 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: doesn't it. It hasn't paid off yet. And you know, 793 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: the Lakers don't have you know, that next move. Well, okay, 794 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: if that doesn't work, then how do you adjust? And 795 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: they don't have that next card to play? So is 796 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: anyone interested Russell Westbrook? You know, the Lakers don't have 797 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: the sweeteners to come off of his contract. They don't 798 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: have the you know, the twenty twenty two first and 799 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four first that you know a team 800 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: might want, they don't have, you know, I mean, honestly, 801 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: the Laker's best trade sweetener right now is probably Austin Reeves, 802 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: who is their undrafted rookie who was playing really meaningful 803 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: minutes and has become this real bright spot. You know, 804 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm a team trying to trade with 805 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: the Lakers, you know I'm not just asking for you know, 806 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: all the all the guys who aren't playing right. It's 807 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: tried earlier. I would also want a guy who can 808 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: come in and contribute in Austin Reeves, And I don't 809 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: know that the Lakers are gonna be able to do that. 810 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: Why would the Lakers leak this if you're not going 811 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: to make a change, Like what, what tell me the 812 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: game that's played here? Of getting this information out here? 813 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me who the source is, obviously, 814 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: but you know they wanted this out there. It feels 815 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: like that's fair enough. Fair I prefer to think of 816 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: it as really good to report it. I'm sure it was. 817 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is my bad so due to the 818 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: great reporting this information got out there. Why Yeah, I 819 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: think that there's a couple of ways of looking at it. Obviously, 820 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, I I would actually say that Frank Vogel 821 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: has probably uh gotten a boost from the fact that 822 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: this information has been out there. Not just not to 823 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: say that that is where you know, I'm not I'm 824 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: not suggesting you sleup that that is where the heat 825 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: information is coming from, but it you know, I do 826 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: think that, you know, the organization has taken a little 827 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: bit of a hit from the fact that this has 828 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: been that this has been reported in the way it's 829 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: been framed. That um that you know that they are 830 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: looking to make a change. But I think the general 831 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: reaction is like, like you said, what difference is that 832 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: going to make? And who's going to come in and 833 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: do a better job? And so I think that, um, well, 834 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: the team didn't even step up last night, Bill, I mean, well, 835 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: and that was and that was what was so interesting 836 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: because we didn't report this until after the Jazz game, 837 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of pressure. You know, I 838 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: think there was just a sense of pressure, like a 839 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: really heavy you know, the air was really heavy in 840 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: the Crypt on Monday night against the Jazz before the 841 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,479 Speaker 1: Lakers won that game. But then, um, you know, once 842 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: it was reported, and then there was some follow up 843 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: reporting from other outlets kind of on the way the 844 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: front office was sort of applying pressure on Frank Vogel. 845 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: You you I thought the last night it was gonna 846 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: be a really interesting measuring stick game to see how 847 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: the how the how the locker room responded. And it 848 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: looked good in the beginning. I would have argued that, 849 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, that looked like a team that was, you know, 850 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: playing for their coach, and then it completely disintegrated down 851 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: the stretch. Lebron, you know, Lebron started missing shots down 852 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: the stretch, wasn't getting enough support Russ wasn't out there. 853 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: It seemed really disengaged. There seemed to be a lot 854 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: of chippiness at the end of the game, a lot 855 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: of saltiness. So you know, and it's the timing, Dan 856 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: is really fascinating because if you were going to make 857 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: a change, you would have about to be last night 858 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: because they're about to go on the six game road 859 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: trip that is going to be brutal. I mean, they've 860 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: got to Orlando tomorrow night. But then after that it's Miami, Brooklyn, Philly, Charlotte, Atlanta. 861 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: Those are all teams they could lose to. So the 862 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: timing is really tough for them. Well, it's only eight 863 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: thirty local time there. You know, I was told last 864 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: night that Frank Boge was getting on the play today. 865 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: So if as as long as nothing changed between you know, 866 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: midnight last night and you know, whenever they're taking off 867 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: for Orlando ten am or so, Frank Vogel was gonna 868 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: be coaching the team in Orlando. But it's interesting. I 869 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: mean he's on the hot seat, you know, as he 870 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: as he loses to Indiana and now going to Orlando. 871 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: You know, for Frank Vogel, ive got to think that's 872 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: like the ghosts of Firings passed. So um, sure he's 873 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: hoping to make it through just those those uh, those 874 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: those bad memories. And is he on the plane coming back? Bill? 875 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: He will be on a plane. But I mean, I 876 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: do think that, like I don't want to say that 877 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: that he bought time with the the Utah win. I mean, 878 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: the Utah game was really pivotal. If there had been 879 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: a similar result against the Jazz to what happened two 880 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: nights earlier against Denver, I think I think the front 881 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 1: office would have felt like they had no other choice. 882 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: But now, not that the Utah win itself lowered the temperature, 883 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: but the fact that they they snapped the street, they 884 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: got to win against the top Western Conference team, although 885 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: it's team lost to the Rockets last night and is 886 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: now lost six to seven. I do think that it's 887 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: sort of kind of popped the balloon in a sense 888 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: where the Lakers are willing to kind of ride this 889 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 1: out a little bit. But it doesn't mean it doesn't 890 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: mean it can't get worse. Although I will say I 891 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: always always refer to the great Jim Murray's quote, which 892 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: was there's nothing so bad it can't be made worse 893 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: by firing the coach. Bill, thank you. We appreciate your 894 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: time and have fun on the road trip. Thanks so much, 895 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: Dan appreciate it. It's Bill Worrem done a great job, 896 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 1: great reporting for the Athletic. Of course, had the story 897 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: about Frank Vogel coaching for his job, and he's getting 898 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 1: on the plane this morning. We have an exclusive getting 899 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: on the plane this morning.