Speaker 1: Monday, July twenty ninety. The United States starts this day
Speaker 1: on top the official Olympic medal count. The US has
Speaker 1: won twelve medals so far at the Paris Games. Home
Speaker 1: country France is in second place with eight medals, followed
Speaker 1: by Japan with seven.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of tea from Perry. It's a
Speaker 2: special edition of Amy and TJ. And in this episode,
Speaker 2: Simone shines and she limps. The US men's basketball team
Speaker 2: makes a statement, and US women's soccer makes an even
Speaker 2: bigger one.
Speaker 1: Plus Christians get an apology from Olympics organizers, Ozzie women
Speaker 1: get a side of sexism with their gold medals, and
Speaker 1: another heartbreaking meltdown in gymnastics robes watching this. We're going
Speaker 1: to get into this here at the bottom of this episode,
Speaker 1: but it's just another sign with this Olympics. What this shows,
Speaker 1: what this means on day one and two, just absolute
Speaker 1: heart break in gymnastics. We talk so much about Brody
Speaker 1: Malone for the US men, but we saw some just
Speaker 1: watching it on the women's side, an absolute meltdown and
Speaker 1: just the Olympics can be just crushing.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's just one mistake and that one mistake
Speaker 2: can be the difference between a metal and complete failure
Speaker 2: for so many of these athletes who put everything on
Speaker 2: the line, and the margins are so narrow, the level
Speaker 2: of expertise is so high that one small, tiny mistake
Speaker 2: can be the end of a dream, and then it
Speaker 2: can lead to some mental problems that create bigger issues
Speaker 2: for the team. Right, it's like one mistake and then
Speaker 2: it leads to so many more. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: But back to back days, we saw spirals, like, really,
Speaker 1: a mistake was made in a matter of you know what, inches,
Speaker 1: it's not the end of your Olympics. You might lose
Speaker 1: a point or two, not even a full point, but
Speaker 1: of fractions of a point. But that mistake gets in
Speaker 1: people's heads and we see world class, the best in
Speaker 1: the world just spiral. And I think that's been heartbreaking
Speaker 1: to see people that we know are best better than
Speaker 1: they're showing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for them especially, and you can see it
Speaker 2: on their face, and it's hard to watch. It's hard
Speaker 2: to watch. And then on the flip side, you see
Speaker 2: those people who nail it, who just get it right,
Speaker 2: who are in the right mental headspace and they win,
Speaker 2: and so it's just yeah, you see the extreme highs
Speaker 2: and the extreme lows. But you can't stop watching, so.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that. And also I talked about the
Speaker 1: medal count at the top, and I always found it
Speaker 1: over the years. I found it somewhat I don't know, silly,
Speaker 1: but it's hard to keep up or quantify. Can a
Speaker 1: country actually win the Olympics? If we come out and
Speaker 1: the US has more medals than anybody, which usually is
Speaker 1: the case. Frankly, we got more athletes than anybody, did
Speaker 1: the US then win the Olympics?
Speaker 2: I mean no, but you can still take some pride
Speaker 2: in that. It's funny. I was actually reading up. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize this. I guess it makes sense. You talk
Speaker 2: about home court advantage. Whoever is hosting the Olympics sees
Speaker 2: a metal bump based on, you know, wherever the Olympics are.
Speaker 2: So France is actually saying that they want to triple
Speaker 2: their number of golds from Tokyo. That's a pretty big,
Speaker 2: big goal. But that does happen. So the host country
Speaker 2: maybe by default wins in a sense that they do
Speaker 2: better than they ever have before. That's my answer to
Speaker 2: your question.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Some people take it as whoever
Speaker 1: wins the most gold medals should be the winning team.
Speaker 1: So it's right now the US is ahead in overall medals,
Speaker 1: but I think in second or third when it comes to.
Speaker 2: Killing it in silver medals, killing it.
Speaker 1: Can we say we want That's just a weird thing.
Speaker 1: And I'm still adjusting too. We did this with World
Speaker 1: Cup and EuroCup. We watch them with soccer, of course,
Speaker 1: international soccer, but do in the Olympics. Do we now
Speaker 1: supposed to say the US are right? It's difficult. If
Speaker 1: you ever watch international sports and soccer in particular, they
Speaker 1: refer to the teams in the plural plural right, So
Speaker 1: here we would say the Los Angeles Lakers are boarding
Speaker 1: their flight. But if you just say the team Los
Speaker 1: Angeles is boarding their.
Speaker 2: Flight, right, the US is boarding?
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, but in international it's our. So the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles are boarding their flight, the USA are headed to
Speaker 1: the arena.
Speaker 2: You pointed this out, so hard to do for US.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I noticed it until you pointed
Speaker 2: it out. And then once you pointed it out, it
Speaker 2: was glaring. I couldn't stop hearing, like Sweden are pushing
Speaker 2: the field, like what it is not our? But yes,
Speaker 2: I and you've noticed that in the Olympics as well.
Speaker 1: Some well, I guess we've been watching some soccer.
Speaker 2: Do you have to retrain your brain as a broadcaster.
Speaker 1: But should we be doing that for the Olympics nowhere
Speaker 1: from the US, We don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to attend that. It's not I have
Speaker 2: too many other problems, just you know, getting my words
Speaker 2: straight in my head. I'm not going to then try
Speaker 2: to change up a verb tense. No, thank you.
Speaker 1: And we're watching live once again. We're recording as we're
Speaker 1: watching the events live. Of course NBC has a setup
Speaker 1: where you're seeing some stuff in prime time, but that
Speaker 1: stuff happened many, many hours earlier. But they do have
Speaker 1: peacock and you can watch everything live. So we've been
Speaker 1: up watching. Yes once again, we've been.
Speaker 2: Thought TV all morning and it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's one. I was saying, some archery this morning. I've
Speaker 1: got some volleyball going, synchronized, diving, synchronized. We saw metal
Speaker 1: awarmans synchronized dive. We're not gonna give you results here
Speaker 1: before they air in primetime, but we did watch that
Speaker 1: as well. And now we've got skateboarding on which we
Speaker 1: have now jumped on board and are really enjoying because
Speaker 1: we saw the women.
Speaker 2: It's fun. It's fun because what they attempt is so insane,
Speaker 2: and then you know they all know how to fall well,
Speaker 2: so no one's getting injured, but it is it's fun
Speaker 2: to see the highs and the lows. Is it not
Speaker 2: this will.
Speaker 1: It's to see what they attempt. I think crazy gymnastics
Speaker 1: is the one. Of course, the big women's final is
Speaker 1: later on Monday, but gymnastics is the one I'm so
Speaker 1: fascinated by because everything I see the athletes do, I
Speaker 1: can't do one thing that they do. I can watch golf,
Speaker 1: I can watch basketball. I can watch Okay, I can
Speaker 1: make a free throw. Steph Curry might make a higher
Speaker 1: percentage than I do, but I know how to do that.
Speaker 1: I can make a putt, yes, that professional might be
Speaker 1: better at right. I can see things that athletes to
Speaker 1: do and I can do it, and they're just the
Speaker 1: best at it. There is nothing a male gymnast did
Speaker 1: when we watched the other day that I can do
Speaker 1: a single move, like on the rings. Not one thing
Speaker 1: they do can I at all do.
Speaker 2: It's crazy because I spent six years as a competitive gymnast,
Speaker 2: nowhere near the level of any of these ladies. But
Speaker 2: I was a gym rat forty hours a week. You'd
Speaker 2: see the men and the women, and still I could
Speaker 2: do basic, rudimentary things, And I know how hard that was. Like,
Speaker 2: just to be able to do a back walk over
Speaker 2: on the beam took me years. You know, just to
Speaker 2: be able to do basic moves took so much hard work.
Speaker 2: So when I see the level of thel I mean,
Speaker 2: when you see someone like Simone Biles, it is like,
Speaker 2: I can't even get my head around how she can
Speaker 2: train her brain to train her body to do what
Speaker 2: it does in the seconds with the force and power
Speaker 2: and precision she does it with. It is remarkable. And
Speaker 2: you've been laughing because we'll hear the commentators who know
Speaker 2: a lot more than either one of us about these skills.
Speaker 2: We'll see someone nail a routine and they'll say, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know, that's just kind of basic. So they're
Speaker 2: not going to get a big score because yes, they
Speaker 2: did it well, but they didn't attempt hard enough feats.
Speaker 2: And when you see someone like someone in Team USA,
Speaker 2: the level at which they're competing is like none other.
Speaker 2: So the things they attempt are literally deathifying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've they've made that point a few times, some
Speaker 1: of the commentators that you actually are putting life in
Speaker 1: limb but they make it look so easy and they
Speaker 1: bounce back and it just doesn't look as dangerous as
Speaker 1: it is to a spectator and we're just in awe.
Speaker 1: So hats off to them. But yes, we'll start there
Speaker 1: with some own biles. They made their much anticipated well
Speaker 1: the team did, but she in particular Robes made a
Speaker 1: much anticipated return to the Olympics after what we saw
Speaker 1: in Tokyo. So we were all a little nervous, a
Speaker 1: little anxious to see how she would do. And she
Speaker 1: did what we're used to seeing Simon.
Speaker 2: Do you know what's crazy though, having watched her in Tokyo,
Speaker 2: and you could see her face, you could see her
Speaker 2: body language, you could see you were you were stressed
Speaker 2: for her, watching her this time around, even though she
Speaker 2: had a calf strain or a slight cap injury. I
Speaker 2: saw her face, you could see her mood, her energy.
Speaker 2: It was different. She was focused, she was ready mentally,
Speaker 2: and that was what was so cool. And then she
Speaker 2: killed it. I mean she killed it. The highest score
Speaker 2: on vault, the highest score on beam, the highest score
Speaker 2: on floor. She qualified for all three of those obviously,
Speaker 2: plus the all around, and she was I believe just
Speaker 2: underqualifying for bars as well. And it's just remarkable to
Speaker 2: see what she does.
Speaker 1: So she will be moving on and she will once
Speaker 1: again get a chance to go for the title of
Speaker 1: all Around Olympic champion. Sunny Lee is the other American
Speaker 1: who will be able to compete for that. Jordan Tiles
Speaker 1: came in in the overall, believe fourth overall, so now
Speaker 1: that means she should have been good enough. That means
Speaker 1: folks at the Olympics right now, the Americans have the
Speaker 1: top three scores or excuse three out of the top
Speaker 1: four scores in all of the women who are at
Speaker 1: the Olympics, but because of the rules, they can only
Speaker 1: take two in two.
Speaker 2: That's tougher. That's going to be so tough if you're
Speaker 2: Jordan Tiles, rules or rules, and we get that, but
Speaker 2: when you know you're that good. And if she had
Speaker 2: played for or played if she had performed for any
Speaker 2: other country, she would be one hundred percent competing for
Speaker 2: the all around metals. And you did see other young
Speaker 2: women from the United States who had ties to other
Speaker 2: countries and were able to compete under the Philippines. We
Speaker 2: saw some compete for Colombia. One compete for Columbia. So
Speaker 2: they found other ways because they wouldn't have had a
Speaker 2: chance because the US women are so good and if
Speaker 2: you want to be able to compete or have a
Speaker 2: shot at it, and sometimes you have to find a
Speaker 2: tie to another country, too bad. Jordan Tiles can't because
Speaker 2: she's that good.
Speaker 1: The thing I didn't know she finished that high. I
Speaker 1: just saw that a show.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to be frustrating.
Speaker 1: That's so frustrating. But the women finished number one as
Speaker 1: well in team, so they will and you have to
Speaker 1: help me here, Ropes. I'm not sure when the when
Speaker 1: the women's final team final.
Speaker 2: I believe that all around is Tuesday, so we just
Speaker 2: have it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's okay. I'm so excited the men are today. That's
Speaker 1: a fantastic to see. So it will all all have
Speaker 1: an eye on that. Also much anticipated. The US men's
Speaker 1: basketball team I'll play against first game of these Olympics,
Speaker 1: playing Serbia. Ropes, we were talking about this yesterday. You said, ah,
Speaker 1: Serbia shouldn't be a problem for the US men. What
Speaker 1: what's the big deal, TJ, Why you put it on
Speaker 1: the big TV. It's the US men. I really did
Speaker 1: say that, no, no, but and my response was, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: they got Nikolai Jokic on the team. NBA MVP, three
Speaker 1: times NBA champion is well, he plays for Serbia, so
Speaker 1: don't sleep on Serbia. We got to watch this game,
Speaker 1: and sure enough it turn out to be blocked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: KD and Lebron did their thing. They're the most experienced
Speaker 1: Olympics on this team, had twenty three and twenty one points.
Speaker 1: Of course, this is stacked with NBA players. The team
Speaker 1: is so good that you know who didn't even get
Speaker 1: off the bench. Didn't even get into the game a
Speaker 1: single time in this game. Jason Tatum, the All NBA
Speaker 1: First Team player, the All Star, the guy who you
Speaker 1: just watched in the NBA Finals have a breakout playoffs
Speaker 1: really and win the title for the Boston Celtics. He
Speaker 1: didn't even get off the bench.
Speaker 2: You know what. And it's pretty cool. I was reading
Speaker 2: up a little bit more because I'm not as well
Speaker 2: versed on these players as you are. But he just agreed,
Speaker 2: as many of you know, to the richest contract in
Speaker 2: NBA history. And he was on the bench. So the
Speaker 2: US coach there, Steve Kerr, he I loved what he
Speaker 2: said about Tatum. He said he had a conversation with
Speaker 2: him about what the plan was for him to not play, essentially,
Speaker 2: and he was very professional. He said about being on
Speaker 2: the bench. He handled it well and will be ready
Speaker 2: for the next one. That's really cool to hear because that,
Speaker 2: you know, if you got a lot of big egos,
Speaker 2: and rightfully so deservedly so, so to sit on the
Speaker 2: bench in the first game of the Olympics, that has
Speaker 2: to be a little tough, and he handled it well
Speaker 2: and that's great to hear.
Speaker 1: They talk about this with Olympians often times, certainly the
Speaker 1: big stars you go. It's about country. It's not even
Speaker 1: about team that particular team. You're representing your country on
Speaker 1: a larger scale. So this isn't about my ego. Jason
Speaker 1: Tatum's fine. He know he can play. You know, he
Speaker 1: can outplay many of the guys till it's tough. But
Speaker 1: we will see him in plenty. But Steve Kerr to
Speaker 1: have that embarrassment of riches that you can't Jason Tatum
Speaker 1: in the game. Now the guys are going to play
Speaker 1: again on Wednesday against South Sudan, who, of course they
Speaker 1: barely beat in an exhibition just a week or so
Speaker 1: ago before there as a tune up to the Olympics.
Speaker 1: So South Sudan, if you hadn't heard about them, we'll
Speaker 1: be talking about them here plenty. They've made quite the impression.
Speaker 2: All right. And god, we had so much fun watching
Speaker 2: soccer again. I feel like we've watched more soccer in
Speaker 2: the last month than I can remember. But US women's
Speaker 2: soccer team, Yeah, they've played their second match, and if
Speaker 2: you had any doubts about them, well they were buried.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone did. But playing against Germany and
Speaker 2: that is a formidable team, and they slayed four to one.
Speaker 2: It was remarkable to why and it was an exciting game.
Speaker 2: You know, you say, oh, it's a blowout, but it
Speaker 2: actually was a really fun game to.
Speaker 1: Watch because they were fun to watch to see them
Speaker 1: go off the way they did. And you know that
Speaker 1: they look they're ranked fifth right now, which everybody else
Speaker 1: in the world would just would love to be ranked fifth,
Speaker 1: but the US hasn't dropped that low in twenty something
Speaker 1: years to fifth. I have been one and two for
Speaker 1: long long stretches, so people think they were falling off
Speaker 1: with Emma Hayes's new coach they brought in, She's only
Speaker 1: been in there a few months. This was her signature
Speaker 1: win so far to beat a team fourth roe. I
Speaker 1: think Germany. The way she beat them, they beat them
Speaker 1: and the way they looked is very exciting.
Speaker 2: I'm excited because I'm remembering just last week and we
Speaker 2: talked to Brianna Scurry, of course, who was the goalkeeper
Speaker 2: for the famous ninety nine ers, but she said she
Speaker 2: went to go watch the team right before they left
Speaker 2: for Paris, just a few weeks ago, and she predicted
Speaker 2: that they were going to do really, really well because
Speaker 2: there weren't these high expectations given their ranking versus previous teams.
Speaker 2: But it's so good to see them. It seems like
Speaker 2: they're gelling so well. Just their pass game, like just
Speaker 2: they are operating the way you want to see a
Speaker 2: gold medal team operating and having fun.
Speaker 1: They look like I mean, it helps when the balls
Speaker 1: go in the back of the net, but they were
Speaker 1: having an absolutely good time. They're going to play again
Speaker 1: the next match on Wednesday, but they've already secured a
Speaker 1: spot into the next round because of the two wins
Speaker 1: they've already had. But obviously we'll be watching closely. Rose
Speaker 1: any Olympics, it's always going to be a little some
Speaker 1: apologies somewhere. You got this many countries involved, as going
Speaker 1: to be some diplomatic mess yep, but you got this
Speaker 1: many eyeballs, and somebody's going to catch something, and some
Speaker 1: folks feel like they caught something that has now the
Speaker 1: Olympic organizers, at least the opening ceremony organizers apologizing. They
Speaker 1: issued another apologize apology. You remember after announcing South Korea
Speaker 1: by the wrong name during the opening ceremony.
Speaker 2: Yes, North Korea versus South Korea, big difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean difference of all names to mix up.
Speaker 1: But this time they're apologizing for some imagery during part
Speaker 1: of the opening ceremony and robes. This is one of
Speaker 1: the most exciting parts of the opening ceremony, I thought.
Speaker 1: But a lot of folks you remember that part. They
Speaker 1: were on this bridge and there was kind of a
Speaker 1: fashion show, a drag show that was taking place. Music
Speaker 1: was going on.
Speaker 2: It was definitely a drag fashion shows.
Speaker 1: Show, as somebody was dressed as a Greek god and
Speaker 1: singing and dancing. All right, if you remember that scene,
Speaker 1: that's the one that has people upset.
Speaker 2: That's right. So some some folks, religious folks are upset
Speaker 2: that they believe that that scene depicted one of the
Speaker 2: most important images in Christianity, the Last Suffer Jesus with
Speaker 2: his disciples, so a very somber, important iconic scene for Christians,
Speaker 2: and they felt like that was made a mockery of,
Speaker 2: basically by having this drag show that ended in what
Speaker 2: looked like the Last Supper.
Speaker 1: And so the spokesperson for the Parislympics came out and said,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to quote here clearly, there was never
Speaker 1: an intention to show disrespect to any religious group. We
Speaker 1: believe this ambition was achieved. If people have taken any offense,
Speaker 1: we are really sorry. Those are fun apologies. Over the years,
Speaker 1: it's a different I apologize for what I did, and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you feel the way you feel about what
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: But yes, exactly, but yes, wink, wink, nod, nod. Look,
Speaker 2: I mean I watched it. We were both raised in
Speaker 2: the Christian faith. I it didn't I mean, I didn't
Speaker 2: even cross my mind. It looked like art, It looked
Speaker 2: beautiful and avant garde and very French, and I just
Speaker 2: took that for.
Speaker 1: What it was.
Speaker 2: But interestingly, the Catholic Church of France actually declared that
Speaker 2: it was a pretty pretty I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I looked at their statement and they aren't making any
Speaker 2: they aren't. They're letting us know exactly how they feel.
Speaker 2: Like this is the best way to put it. I'm
Speaker 2: choosing my words carefully here, but i'll quote then the
Speaker 2: Catholic Church of France said, quote, they believe that the
Speaker 2: opening ceremonies deplored a ceremony that included scenes of derision
Speaker 2: and mockery of Christianity. So yes, they are making their feelings.
Speaker 1: No, we want to respect anybody who looked at it
Speaker 1: and was offended in whatever way you were offended. They
Speaker 1: have no qualms with anybody who took issue. But also
Speaker 1: take them at their word that wasn't the intent intent
Speaker 1: to even depict it, But it certainly wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: the attempt to actually do harm, right, trying to hurt
Speaker 1: anybody's feelings or trying to make a mockery or make fun,
Speaker 1: even if it unintentionally happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't that the case all the time, though, I
Speaker 2: feel like it speaking of doing harm. There's another controversy
Speaker 2: brewing at the Olympics. In fact, a veteran broadcaster was
Speaker 2: removed from his position fairly quickly after something he said
Speaker 2: on Saturday night at the pool again, a veteran broad
Speaker 2: caster of heuro sports, and the Australian women had just
Speaker 2: won their gold medal the four by one hundred relay
Speaker 2: and they were celebrating, taking pictures, waving to fans, and
Speaker 2: this broadcaster kind of made a flippant comment.
Speaker 1: Oh, flippant. It was so many of these events, I
Speaker 1: think swimming they planned to be later in the evening,
Speaker 1: certainly the finals, because they're just high profile events. People
Speaker 1: like to get there and watch them, and then of
Speaker 1: course we'd like to see them on TV. They are
Speaker 1: always a part of prime time. His point he was
Speaker 1: making was that they were just finishing up in the evening,
Speaker 1: and that's a quote, the quote was finishing up. But
Speaker 1: he followed that up by saying, and I quote here, actually, Robot,
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to be able to.
Speaker 2: Chop this up and do so you give the comments, okay,
Speaker 2: he said, well, the women just finishing up. You know what,
Speaker 2: women are like hanging around doing their makeup. So there
Speaker 2: was a British swimmer, Lizzie Simmons, who was next to him,
Speaker 2: alongside him commenting on the race as well.
Speaker 1: His broadcast partner. He says, this is in front of
Speaker 1: a very accomplished woman.
Speaker 2: And she said it was outrageous. She said it right
Speaker 2: back to him, and it prompted some laughter from Ballard.
Speaker 2: I think in his mind I was just kidding. We
Speaker 2: can all take a joke here. But that was not
Speaker 2: a shared sentiment by folks because that clip was taken.
Speaker 2: As we've seen this happen with many different controversies. That
Speaker 2: clip was shared throughout social media. There became an uproar
Speaker 2: of backlash that rose to the level in which Eurosport
Speaker 2: removed Bob out. This is a guy who's been doing
Speaker 2: this since the nineteen eighties, I believe, focusing mainly his
Speaker 2: commentating on water events. Water polo, is swimming, diving, all of that.
Speaker 2: So we have not heard a response from Ballard yet,
Speaker 2: nor have we heard anything from Lizzie Simmons as well,
Speaker 2: But we'll see if that is to come and we
Speaker 2: will certainly share.
Speaker 1: That with But I have right he's removed from the
Speaker 1: Olympics broadcasting. He wasn't fired from a job yet, I mean,
Speaker 1: is this still right? Well, and I'll ask you your
Speaker 1: reaction to it. Won't say if anybody's right or wrong,
Speaker 1: But when you first heard.
Speaker 2: This one, look, I look, it was inappropriate what he said.
Speaker 2: It's you know, women have been fighting hard to rise
Speaker 2: above any of those stereotypes, and yet stereotypes come often
Speaker 2: from some semblance of truth. So I understand the joke
Speaker 2: he was making. I don't think it was appropriate for
Speaker 2: him to make that joke on international television. But here's
Speaker 2: what I think. We all say things he had been on,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to make excuses for anyone who
Speaker 2: misspeaks or says something they shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you're about to, though, but I am going to.
Speaker 2: Just offer some perspective that you're on the air for
Speaker 2: hours and hours and hours, you're tired, and maybe you
Speaker 2: say something that you shouldn't. Okay, fine, I just think
Speaker 2: it didn't rise to the level where he had to
Speaker 2: be removed without given an opportunity to apologize. If he
Speaker 2: had just said, hey, I should never have said that.
Speaker 2: That is not okay to talk about women in stereotypical ways,
Speaker 2: especially when we're watching four women who just you know,
Speaker 2: they just want to go metal, just absolutely crushed it.
Speaker 2: It was not appropriate. I do think he should have
Speaker 2: been allowed to apologize, maybe maybe take him off for
Speaker 2: a night to have him cool as jets and say something.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I would have liked to have heard him
Speaker 2: actually come on the air and say something like I
Speaker 2: should not have said that. Lesson learned. I think this
Speaker 2: is what we're trying to do here, when we're talking
Speaker 2: about wokeness and people learning how to respect each other
Speaker 2: and maybe not realizing even how offensive certain things are,
Speaker 2: is to give people the opportunity to apologize, to learn,
Speaker 2: and to grow.
Speaker 1: Wow. I am with you on all of that. I'm
Speaker 1: discouraged by what you said because I can't imagine the
Speaker 1: day we get to that. My problem with this was
Speaker 1: not that if he made it the comment, they knew
Speaker 1: about it immediately. They heard it immediately, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: his broadcasting partner might have even gone and complained about
Speaker 1: it immediately. They heard about it the next day and
Speaker 1: we're talking about it. I don't like that they waited
Speaker 1: to see what reaction was going to be before they
Speaker 1: took action either against him. Either he did wrong or
Speaker 1: he didn't. Either let him apologize or don't either keep
Speaker 1: him on the air or not make the call, don't
Speaker 1: wait for Tea Leaves.
Speaker 2: I would just yes, I agree, and I would just
Speaker 2: like the totality of someone's contribution to their position, to
Speaker 2: their job, to the network be considered versus just one
Speaker 2: one offhanded comment inappropriate. I just think that we wait
Speaker 2: too heavily. We give too much weight to the court
Speaker 2: of public opinion and not enough to the people who
Speaker 2: we know on a deeper life and allow them to
Speaker 2: make mistakes and apologize for them.
Speaker 1: That's what the business is now though, right these folks
Speaker 1: are invested so much money in this. I can't have
Speaker 1: anybody mad at me while they're watching the Olympics. So
Speaker 1: I'd be get rid of this guyause we're all good.
Speaker 2: Think about like all of the you know, anyone who's
Speaker 2: running commercials during the Olympics, anyone they want women, women, women, women.
Speaker 2: You know, we're we're advertising to women constantly, We're buying,
Speaker 2: you know, the products, we're you know, creating so much
Speaker 2: of what we consume in our homes are from women.
Speaker 2: So you offend women, watch out I just.
Speaker 1: Wonder how a lot of women would if they would
Speaker 1: agree with you. I don't know if they would hear
Speaker 1: that and go, okay, let the dode apologize, Let's move
Speaker 1: on and get back to swimming. It's terribly time.
Speaker 2: Un lesson learned. Maybe he could. That could have a
Speaker 2: huge impact on other men who might think it's okay
Speaker 2: to say things and say, you know what, I shouldn't.
Speaker 2: But when you just overreacted, I say overreact by immediately
Speaker 2: removing him, you know you missed the opportunity to learn
Speaker 2: and to grow.
Speaker 1: Something else going on. Maybe haven't we all done this?
Speaker 1: You made a joke on the air that will like, wow,
Speaker 1: I am not alone in home right now?
Speaker 2: Whoops? Did my thought become audible?
Speaker 1: It seems like he was tired that moment. So if
Speaker 1: anything comes with that, we will follow up the other thing.
Speaker 1: And it was the heartbreak of the day. We were
Speaker 1: so excited to watch women's gymnastics. Of course Simone Biles
Speaker 1: was a part of that, but you had a lot
Speaker 1: of women competing. It was a lot of women's gymnastics
Speaker 1: to watch. I'm not even sure Ropes if this moment
Speaker 1: made it to the Primetime company because we didn't. We
Speaker 1: watched this live. But if you saw Melie DeJesus dos Santos,
Speaker 1: who is a superstar for the French gymnastics team. She
Speaker 1: is the leader of that team. She has been around
Speaker 1: for a while. She's a former European champion. She even
Speaker 1: had moved to Texas to train with Simone Biles. She's
Speaker 1: at that level. Robes the French gymnastics team. The women
Speaker 1: had hopes of this being their year on their home turf,
Speaker 1: of certainly competing for an all around championship and Melanie
Speaker 1: competing for the all around the individual and none of
Speaker 1: them will compete again in this Olympics. It's over already.
Speaker 2: It's so sad. The expectations were incredibly high. They won
Speaker 2: bronze at the World Championships just last year and that
Speaker 2: was their first team medal since nineteen fifty. So you
Speaker 2: can see how badly the French wanted this. And they
Speaker 2: could taste it, they could smell it. It was right there.
Speaker 2: And yes, Melanie had been training with Simone and she
Speaker 2: said this after she fell off the bars, and then
Speaker 2: it just went downhill from there. She had major wobbles
Speaker 2: on her beam. Just nothing was as good as it
Speaker 2: had been in practice and in competition's past, and then
Speaker 2: it seemed like it was contagious for the entire team.
Speaker 2: Nobody did their best.
Speaker 1: And let's make basically hear clear aerobes, these folks didn't
Speaker 1: have like off days, were off a few points, had
Speaker 1: a little stumbled on a landing. These were major jaw
Speaker 1: dropping how is this happening type of issues.
Speaker 2: And I read a quote from Melanie. You could just
Speaker 2: see it on her face. You watched it the whole time.
Speaker 2: She just knew what was happening in slow motion almost
Speaker 2: but she said, I feel like everything I did in
Speaker 2: the last two to three years did not work out today.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've worked for nothing the past years,
Speaker 2: and that is just heartbreaking. She finished eleventh, and she
Speaker 2: would have had to have finished eighth to have made
Speaker 2: it to the final all around competition. So yes, none
Speaker 2: of those girls will be able that that was their
Speaker 2: last and final competition for the Olympics because none of
Speaker 2: them qualified for any of the individual competitions and they
Speaker 2: didn't they didn't make it to the team finals, and
Speaker 2: it really was devastating. At one point, I think even
Speaker 2: the crowd knew it was happening, and they saw her
Speaker 2: face and they just started cheering her name, and you
Speaker 2: saw it like it was. It was they felt her
Speaker 2: pain and were trying to almost give her a collective
Speaker 2: hug from the stands. It was. It was devastating they
Speaker 2: were I think, and you.
Speaker 1: Make that point again that on day one of competition
Speaker 1: for women's gymnastics the French, every single French gymnast, female
Speaker 1: gymnast is done. The whole team didn't qualify and out
Speaker 1: of five girls on the team, not a single one
Speaker 1: qualified for an apparatus. That is for a team in
Speaker 1: its home country that had all these high It was
Speaker 1: devastating to watch. And we talked about the most painful
Speaker 1: moments and it was painful. But Melanie yesterday she was
Speaker 1: crying in between competitions. By the way, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: we waited to the end and then she just let
Speaker 1: it all out. I didn't make it. She was crying
Speaker 1: like the whole time we were. I but the moment
Speaker 1: when she's fully in tears and the whole crowd is
Speaker 1: yelling Melanie, man, if you didn't have tears in your
Speaker 1: eyes watching that, then you are not human. And she
Speaker 1: put a heart she made a heart with her hands
Speaker 1: and put up in the crowd with tears in her eyes.
Speaker 1: But to hear them chanting her name, knowing good and hell, well,
Speaker 1: what was going on? That was gutting to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's so many That sounds so cheesy,
Speaker 2: I know, but this is one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: I think we all love the Olympics is you just
Speaker 2: see so many of life's moments, you know, played out
Speaker 2: in extremes on the screen in front of the world.
Speaker 2: But you see these athletes and what they put into it,
Speaker 2: and you know, whether they get gold or they go
Speaker 2: home empty handed, they have to somehow power through and
Speaker 2: make sense of it. And that's just it's just a
Speaker 2: euphemism for life, you know. You just see all the
Speaker 2: ups and downs and how these people rise up to
Speaker 2: the level sometimes and crash and burn in others. But
Speaker 2: it's just it's a universal feeling. We all know what
Speaker 2: it's like in life. We don't know what it's like
Speaker 2: in that sports arena. But certainly I think that's why
Speaker 2: we all feel it on such a like a just
Speaker 2: a primal level.
Speaker 1: It hurts because she said that quote was devastating, but
Speaker 1: an NBA player season ends in June NBA Finals, right,
Speaker 1: it happened in June. In four months, season starts again.
Speaker 1: If you lose in Game seven at the buzzer, you
Speaker 1: get motivated because you got four months, season's gonna start again.
Speaker 1: These folks at four years of working for that moment
Speaker 1: and it's over.
Speaker 2: And some of them age out because especially gymnastics, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, you're twenty four. Yeah, Simone Biles is twenty seven,
Speaker 2: and that's remarkable. I mean she's considered an old woman
Speaker 2: in the sports, you know, and yet she's at the
Speaker 2: top of her game. So I love how she's proving
Speaker 2: people wrong in terms of like you have to be
Speaker 2: a sixteen year old to be able to do what
Speaker 2: they do. But still, when you're twenty four, you know,
Speaker 2: you believe.
Speaker 1: Melanie she said this is gonna be her last Olympics
Speaker 1: emotionally right now. I mean maybe she'll settle down in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and months and even a year,
Speaker 1: but she already is just just stag poor girl. And
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen her, she is just this is adult.
Speaker 1: All these horrible little just the sweetest little face and
Speaker 1: there's no way you you can't you couldn't be in
Speaker 1: tears watching her, and again we got to watch this.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they showed in primetime. We should
Speaker 1: find out. So maybe a lot of people listening to
Speaker 1: us haven't even seen that worth watching.
Speaker 2: You can go on to peacock and click on it
Speaker 2: and watch. And I think the other thing that stood
Speaker 2: out was the juxtaposition of the Canadian team because they
Speaker 2: had done so well. Yeah, so they were showing. They
Speaker 2: were showing the Canadian team, you know, they were all
Speaker 2: jumping up and down and smiling they qualified, and then
Speaker 2: they would just go back to the French team and
Speaker 2: it was like wah.
Speaker 1: Wah, in tears, embracing each other. It was a juxtaposition.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my, I was like kind of
Speaker 2: wishing they wouldn't do that because I felt so it's
Speaker 2: made it worse. It just made it worse. Well, we
Speaker 2: have a lot to look forward to today.
Speaker 1: What's up today?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we have I'm so excited the US
Speaker 2: Men's gymnastics Finals today, eleven thirty Eastern time to watch
Speaker 2: it on Peacock. Of course, this will all be primetime
Speaker 2: tonight for folks who want to watch it then, But
Speaker 2: we talked about Brody Malone just losing his hopes of
Speaker 2: an individual all around, but he and Frederick Richard will
Speaker 2: go along the rest of their teammates to try and
Speaker 2: get a medal for Team USA. So that's exciting.
Speaker 1: And the Whipp Richard. We can't say enough about Flip.
Speaker 1: We've been talking so much about Brody and he was
Speaker 1: the guy, right, Brody was obviously the big star and
Speaker 1: the guy, but Flip is a is a big social
Speaker 1: media star. Obviously he's a he's an Olympian, the dude
Speaker 1: as a ridiculous athlete. But he has now moved into
Speaker 1: the position to be the Americans pretty much best hope
Speaker 1: for the all around but also the leader of the team.
Speaker 1: Now we don't know how what does Brody have left?
Speaker 2: Just this this is it. This is his last competition where.
Speaker 1: They going to put him, Like, what's he going to
Speaker 1: compete on? Did he qualify for the for the final?
Speaker 2: They all compete on all of the all of the
Speaker 2: for the team.
Speaker 1: So he is still in there, but he but Flip
Speaker 1: has now taken the position that he's the one that
Speaker 1: seems to be stable. Now, well, he'll be.
Speaker 2: Going for the individual all around and that will be
Speaker 2: exciting for him. But yeah, they're all in it together
Speaker 2: for this, So this is this is their team uniting
Speaker 2: and all doing the very best for the all around.
Speaker 2: You know, the team medals, So this is a big deal.
Speaker 1: It's cool to see Flip Now in a position even
Speaker 1: as a part of the team, to after Brody's kind
Speaker 1: of fell off that he seems like the leader of
Speaker 1: the team.
Speaker 2: Twenty years old.
Speaker 1: He seems like that guy. And to see a black dude,
Speaker 1: just to see him representing in that way and doing
Speaker 1: something that we don't know, we're not accustomed to seeing
Speaker 1: a black man at the top of this sport on
Speaker 1: this stage. It is very cool.
Speaker 2: Yes, Spike Lee a big fan of his. He's in
Speaker 2: the audience every time. I like, I get a kick
Speaker 2: out of watching that too, So we're excited about that.
Speaker 2: And then swimming, big big day. There's nine events, but
Speaker 2: five of them will be the final, so they'll be
Speaker 2: medal rounds and we're excited about that. They begin this afternoon.
Speaker 2: You've got the women's two hundred freestyle, the men's one
Speaker 2: hundred meter backstroke, the women's one hundred meter breastroke, women's
Speaker 2: four hundred im I don't know what I am is
Speaker 2: individual thank you. I knew you would know. And men's
Speaker 2: two hundred meter freestyle. I didn't even google it because
Speaker 2: I'm like TJ will know and I'll just throw it
Speaker 2: to him. And US women's basketball facing Japan today, so
Speaker 2: that's going to be like they're looking to win their
Speaker 2: eighth executive gold medal. Feels like that's probably going to
Speaker 2: be the case. I love this stat. Every single member
Speaker 2: of team USA women's basketball has won a gold medal,
Speaker 2: either at an Olympics or at a World Cup. So
Speaker 2: I think they've got it.
Speaker 1: They're probably going to be okay, They're probably going to
Speaker 1: be good. Isn't that great for them to be at
Speaker 1: a position where you're just expected to win gold?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe that's like, maybe that's a little
Speaker 2: bit of a mind game, but.
Speaker 1: They've earned it, is the thing they know. Who was it?
Speaker 1: Kelsey Plumb on night one of Yes I'm Meant to
Speaker 1: put this in one of our pre this podcast, she
Speaker 1: was asked about it before they boarded the boat to
Speaker 1: go down the seind with the opening ceremony, said, what
Speaker 1: do you think about all the history and what the
Speaker 1: women have on the line? And the streak and all
Speaker 1: the gold medals in the past. She said, all that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'm just staying in the moment. Oh my God,
Speaker 1: perfect answer that she said. I am in nothing matters.
Speaker 1: I am in this moment, right here, this ceremony, this interview,
Speaker 1: I'm right here in the moment. I love that answer.
Speaker 2: See somebody, lessons to be learned, oh watching our athletes here,
Speaker 2: and we're going to continue to do it each and
Speaker 2: every day. Keep checking us out every day here during
Speaker 2: the Olympics. You'll get all the tea from Perry until tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're not married to that name.
Speaker 2: I should say again every time, every time