Speaker 1: What's happen slip service, I'm ant in thee, I'm destiny.
Speaker 2: Andrew Sodora like that, say, have you seen the meme
Speaker 2: going around at you like she's always been that girl?
Speaker 1: No? Really on social media and they're posting like throwback
Speaker 1: clips of you singing and acting and all of that.
Speaker 3: I've missed that one only I don't know why I
Speaker 3: got a million girls said it to me.
Speaker 1: I have to see that, because I was like, there's
Speaker 1: no way you haven't seen that. I have not seen that.
Speaker 3: I need to see that. That's positive reinforcement that I
Speaker 3: need to.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we focus on the negative. Because I also see
Speaker 2: people saying that you've been carrying this season on your back.
Speaker 1: I've seen that. But how do you feel about that
Speaker 1: heavy tire? No?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm appreciative to the fans. I feel like
Speaker 3: the first and foremost the Bravo fans are unlike anybody.
Speaker 1: Else, like they are ride or Die.
Speaker 3: They are so invested, they're so loyal, and I just
Speaker 3: feel like throughout these season, because we're so writing Season sixteen,
Speaker 3: this season you know, Sweet sixteen, but they are, They're smart,
Speaker 3: and I feel like now maybe things that people got
Speaker 3: away with.
Speaker 1: Before they don't get away with no more. Like the
Speaker 1: fans are putting it together.
Speaker 3: They are seeing what's real and what's not clocking everybody's tea,
Speaker 3: and I just I see that because I do see
Speaker 3: the comments where they're like, okay, you know, they're remembering things.
Speaker 3: They're recalling things. They're like, nad you didn't say that,
Speaker 3: or either all my girls, she didn't do this, or
Speaker 3: I'm yeah. So I'm like, okay, I don't have to
Speaker 3: defend myself so much because they see what's really real,
Speaker 3: you know, and.
Speaker 1: You're adjusted because I think coming in what season did
Speaker 1: you start on? I came in on season thirteen, season thirteen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that had to be difficult.
Speaker 2: I remember wat seing season thirteen and being so annoyed
Speaker 2: at I know, we hate to make but at Ralph
Speaker 2: like traveling out of town and not answering and not
Speaker 2: saying where he was going, and I was like, ooh,
Speaker 2: this ain't gonna like you could see it from then
Speaker 2: and then we see where we are now, you know,
Speaker 2: So I really.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: So when Destiny found out you were coming, she's going
Speaker 2: through some shit right in my house right now?
Speaker 1: What in your high house? Why does that sound like
Speaker 1: a children's book in my house?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not married and I don't have children,
Speaker 2: so I guess that's even more. But you have children,
Speaker 2: not with him, no, not with him yet, but you
Speaker 2: have children together. It's a little bit, but it also
Speaker 2: teaches women like myself obviously not being married and not
Speaker 2: having the children and not having that connection, shocking up
Speaker 2: is just not the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for her, that's the life. Your situation is different.
Speaker 3: But yeah, everybody's situation is different, unique in its own way.
Speaker 3: So how I used to compare like, oh, they got
Speaker 3: it together and this is what they're doing. It's like
Speaker 3: all that goes out the window, you know, because when
Speaker 3: you're with your person or the person you think is
Speaker 3: your person, you kind of start to learn what works
Speaker 3: for you doesn't. And like, I've been married now ten
Speaker 3: years going through this process. It is legit in years,
Speaker 3: but you realize, like what works for other people does
Speaker 3: not work necessarily for you. So all you can really
Speaker 3: truly focus on is your own relationship. Create the boundaries
Speaker 3: and those things that you'll stand for not stand for,
Speaker 3: and if it works, it works great, you know, but
Speaker 3: if it doesn't, it's like at what point is your
Speaker 3: breaking point?
Speaker 1: And then everybody's breaking point is different. Well, this man
Speaker 1: won't get out of her house and you don't girl,
Speaker 1: but a little bit. But it's a little bit different.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing for me.
Speaker 2: I feel like, obviously you guys were married and at
Speaker 2: some point we're in love.
Speaker 1: Are you still in love?
Speaker 3: I will always love Ralph like the love is real,
Speaker 3: the love was real and so forever will be. But
Speaker 3: not in love. I would say, we know what that
Speaker 3: difference looks like. Yeah, it's a difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean people are like, listen, people are chatting,
Speaker 2: They're getting confused. That was like, look, they was just
Speaker 2: upstairs in the kitchen cook the stag Rightidia tells such
Speaker 2: a different story life. Don't we always see the love
Speaker 2: story on social media?
Speaker 1: Anybody? Wait? They don't broke up when? How where in
Speaker 1: the kitchen?
Speaker 2: But also getting along for the kids is a mature thing,
Speaker 2: thank you, So to clear that up.
Speaker 1: That was a moment.
Speaker 3: It was a Memorial Day holiday, and you will see
Speaker 3: even on this season of Housewives, we are moving towards
Speaker 3: creating like a holistic co parenting relationship.
Speaker 1: That's it. We didn't work well, as you know, husband
Speaker 1: and wife.
Speaker 3: Nurse, right, But we have beautiful children, so let's focus
Speaker 3: on co parenting and being great at that. And that
Speaker 3: moment that you guys saw on social media was a
Speaker 3: moment of hey, I made some mistakes for the kids,
Speaker 3: and I come upstairs and you know, give it to them.
Speaker 1: Cool, come upstairs? Can you come upstairs?
Speaker 2: I granted access and boundaries. That's my boundaries holiday. And
Speaker 2: actually his aunt was there. His aunt was the one recording.
Speaker 3: So his aunt respectfully called me and was like, she
Speaker 3: didn't like what he tweeted about my mom and my
Speaker 3: dad who passed away. So she was like, can I come?
Speaker 3: And I need to talk to him. I missed the
Speaker 3: kids and I just feel like this has gone too far.
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know what. She's like, I know
Speaker 3: it's your weekend, can I come? She lives in South Carolina.
Speaker 3: She's like, can I drive up there and just see
Speaker 3: you guys? I was like yeah, So she comes. So
Speaker 3: she's recording and she's like, say hi to Helen, which
Speaker 3: is his grandmother. So I'm like, hey, Helen, thinking we're
Speaker 3: on FaceTime. She's recordings a little. I'm home in my
Speaker 3: most vulnerable space. Obviously, I was looking a mess.
Speaker 1: Viral. I didn't write I find out like viral. And
Speaker 1: it was at this.
Speaker 2: Moment you didn't even know that that was happening. You
Speaker 2: just thought that you were saying hello to a family.
Speaker 1: Intrusive.
Speaker 3: I love her, so I don't want to say that
Speaker 3: she intended or set me up anyway, but I assumed
Speaker 3: she was facetiming. She had her phone out and I'm like, hey, Helen,
Speaker 3: and he's like, call me daddy or whatever, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: you're mister, You're Ralph.
Speaker 1: You can see it. I'm like, no, you're Ralph, you know.
Speaker 3: And then I'm cooking, so I got stuff on my
Speaker 3: hand and he's like, oh, you want to taste of steak.
Speaker 1: I'm a foodie. Yes, someone tastes of steak. And I
Speaker 1: tasted the steak. That was it. That was all. The
Speaker 1: steak was.
Speaker 2: Good, okay, but the only meat you taste it.
Speaker 1: Carried.
Speaker 2: That's the only meat I was tasting. And it was tasty,
Speaker 2: but it was just the steak t bone. Thank you
Speaker 2: with the But on the flip side, right, you have
Speaker 2: an album out that I think people could really relate to.
Speaker 1: But the songs on there feel like They're real. They
Speaker 1: are you know.
Speaker 2: But as I'm saying, like, because I think sometimes are artists.
Speaker 2: What makes music hit is when you can be like,
Speaker 2: I know what she's going through and she did this song. Girl,
Speaker 2: I cold relate because there are people that can relate,
Speaker 2: you can feel it to certain circumstances. And so in
Speaker 2: a way, this album is kind of it's cost so
Speaker 2: much drama, but it's also representative of things that you're
Speaker 2: going through.
Speaker 3: It was and like anybody that knows me and has
Speaker 3: followed my career, it's like I've been doing music my
Speaker 3: whole life.
Speaker 1: Literally, but I was like in the studio, like all right,
Speaker 1: let's do this.
Speaker 3: This this music, let's make a hit record. Who just
Speaker 3: sounds good? This album was like, Oh, I need to
Speaker 3: go to the studio. I need to sing this song.
Speaker 3: Even though it's coming from Dennis, who I didn't know
Speaker 3: did music. I know he does great hot Dogs and
Speaker 3: all the guys coming from As far as writing, he
Speaker 3: curated soul. Let me be clear, he executive produced my album,
Speaker 3: but he curated it. He was not like the producer,
Speaker 3: but he did. He he knows a lot of producers
Speaker 3: who knew he has relations and music who knew, however,
Speaker 3: songs that he would listen to and and and get
Speaker 3: sent to him. He would send to me and I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is good, Like I need to sing this song.
Speaker 3: This is resonating with me in a different way.
Speaker 1: Which what makes you most emotional.
Speaker 2: It's two of them, which one I would say I
Speaker 2: did it to me and Love for a Minute, because
Speaker 2: like Love for a minute, I was in the booth crying.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think I can sing this today,
Speaker 2: and he was like, here's some nayak, here's some clean next,
Speaker 2: let's go. And that song was very emotionally challenging. But
Speaker 2: like the whole album, I can say is a representation
Speaker 2: of like the journey I've been on and just the good,
Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly how I felt on that particular day.
Speaker 1: That's the song we did.
Speaker 2: I mean, when I listened to it, I felt like,
Speaker 2: good girl, Yeah that's my son, but we're not gonna
Speaker 2: do it now.
Speaker 1: On Instagram did she was like, do you get verse ready?
Speaker 1: I would if you don't get out of here with
Speaker 1: your verse.
Speaker 2: Ready, I will say is a lot of the songs
Speaker 2: expressed how a woman, how women are feeling coming from
Speaker 2: a hurting or a hurt point, you know, or going
Speaker 2: through something. And it's more so if you're boosting them up.
Speaker 2: Get your shit together, get your bag right, get your money,
Speaker 2: worry about yourself. Yeah that's kind of what I got
Speaker 2: from a lot.
Speaker 1: Of the songs. I appreciate it. But you have been
Speaker 1: getting into the bag all this time.
Speaker 2: I mean you know, I have since I was eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my whole life. You don't even know what we like
Speaker 2: to get to thank you.
Speaker 3: But when I got married, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I have a husband. I can like not have to
Speaker 3: worry about work so much, the pressure of that, and
Speaker 3: just be domesticated. So I embraced that, like the motherhood,
Speaker 3: having my beautiful babies, learning how to do laundry, cooking.
Speaker 3: I loved that because that was something I never had.
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 2: Completely just engulfed in work since I was a little girl.
Speaker 1: But you still work, so that is dope. Now every
Speaker 1: day is worried though, every day is work.
Speaker 3: Like I took my moment and I was like, let's
Speaker 3: raise this beautiful family. But I was like, I gotta
Speaker 3: get back to work because I'm passionate about what I do.
Speaker 1: So I was like feeling like.
Speaker 3: A little void, you know what I mean, Like, I
Speaker 3: know I need to get back to work at some point.
Speaker 2: I just didn't know when. And honestly, it was like
Speaker 2: a couple of movies I did. But then when Housewives called,
Speaker 2: we moved to Atlanta and took that opportunity. Speaking of movies,
Speaker 2: you got a movie coming out in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: a thriller scary due.
Speaker 1: My favorite time. Really, Oh my god, listen to my house.
Speaker 1: I did, like, y'all want watch scary movie? So upset
Speaker 1: Angela has me liking scary movies. Now. It's funing scary movies.
Speaker 3: I would have to like to watch them, but I
Speaker 3: usually don't finish them. I have to like wait till
Speaker 3: the daytime and have friends over. And then that's not
Speaker 3: and I do them, and I'm still like, but it's
Speaker 3: certain movies that I'm like, hold on, I can't figure
Speaker 3: this one out. This is cool, Like certain ones that
Speaker 3: are really really good. I'm like, yeah, no, I need
Speaker 3: some backup because I can't wait for that.
Speaker 1: All right now, listen.
Speaker 2: I think that the other thing is ay, like on
Speaker 2: this show, it makes it seem like you're dating this person.
Speaker 1: You're that person. You're yeah, take a little, but I
Speaker 1: want to ask you.
Speaker 2: Because on the last episode what I noticed was this, right,
Speaker 2: so Portia accused you of dating somebody, then you went
Speaker 2: back and her. They didn't bleep the name out that
Speaker 2: she said about you, but they was.
Speaker 3: That what was over that. I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 3: see what's going on. So yes, they're linking me with
Speaker 3: so many people. But yet and still I'm going mad.
Speaker 3: Women I love them and I got a man living
Speaker 3: in my basement. So this is when I want to
Speaker 3: ask you because so many people, obviously we see like
Speaker 3: there's so much going on social media obviously, like there's
Speaker 3: things happening with married couples Cardi pat and not.
Speaker 1: Putting you in the same situation.
Speaker 2: As them, But like, is it okay if you're over
Speaker 2: the situation, if you both agreed that you're over a
Speaker 2: situation to date and just do your thing, if you
Speaker 2: agreed that, listen, we're finished. We are going to do
Speaker 2: this divorce. We are going to be doing this, but
Speaker 2: we can move on, yeah, can we?
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's interesting, it's like very layered because
Speaker 3: we have had that conversation where it's like we didn't
Speaker 3: work as this per se, So we're gonna work on that.
Speaker 3: But like, knowing that it just didn't work out, we're
Speaker 3: just we think differently. It ran its course. We loved
Speaker 3: each other during that time, and you kind of suck
Speaker 3: it up to that. But then there are times where you're, like,
Speaker 3: before we joined housewives, like the things that people didn't
Speaker 3: get a chance to see is all of the struggles
Speaker 3: that we dealt with in our marriage prior to like
Speaker 3: when we were living in Chicago, Okay, living in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Going through it.
Speaker 3: Women involved, you know, inappropriate behavior and the things that
Speaker 3: as a woman, as a wife who was loyal in
Speaker 3: this marriage, I had to deal with. And I think
Speaker 3: just a lot of things get convoluted being on this
Speaker 3: platform and a lot of things get thrown out there
Speaker 3: that are just not true. It makes it hard to
Speaker 3: even create a co parenting, cohesive relationship. So now on
Speaker 3: top of that, you got the pettiness. You gotta deal
Speaker 3: with all these people getting thrown and I'm like, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, I'm still a human being. I still am
Speaker 3: going through a really like this is the biggest storm
Speaker 3: of my life. My parents were married for sixty years
Speaker 3: until my dad passed away, so I didn't never think
Speaker 3: I would marry to divorce. When I got married to
Speaker 3: my husband, I was like, this is it. This is forever,
Speaker 3: like this is my person. So to now be here
Speaker 3: it's unbelievable at times. So then when people throw these things,
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait a minute, though, Like, especially when you're
Speaker 3: going through the same thing, it's like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2: You know how hard emotionally mentally this is. I can
Speaker 2: go on dates which I've owned, I'll stand on that.
Speaker 2: It's great, Like that.
Speaker 1: Was the question.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here like I'm seeing yeah, and I'm attracted
Speaker 3: to people that I see, and I'm like, you're a looker, Okay,
Speaker 3: But to go like to this is exclusive or anything
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: You gotta take your time. You gotta take your to
Speaker 1: the point of you saying.
Speaker 2: That, you know, as far as you not being outside
Speaker 2: or whatever case, maybe dating.
Speaker 1: I'll be outside now, well.
Speaker 2: Listen, I mean, you know sometimes, but I do.
Speaker 1: Want to say this. I also because you are a
Speaker 1: human being.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people see you on TV and they don't he like, know,
Speaker 2: these are real people with emotions. I do think that
Speaker 2: you spend so much time working, being married, being a mom,
Speaker 2: you and you should have a little fun.
Speaker 1: I want to have fun. I think you should, like,
Speaker 1: I think you deserve it.
Speaker 3: Y'all come to Atlanta, y'all come hang out with me,
Speaker 3: like we will have a great time. Well you better
Speaker 3: hit well, let me not find it, because I do
Speaker 3: feel like right now my priority has been a pouring
Speaker 3: my energy into my career, work, self care and really
Speaker 3: just like having a good time, laughing more, you know,
Speaker 3: and and enjoy myself and just being gentle with myself
Speaker 3: to know, like I've been in a marriage for ten
Speaker 3: freaking years, right.
Speaker 2: I always felt like if I, you know, if I
Speaker 2: was single and I had kids and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: I'd be like I could do.
Speaker 1: What I want.
Speaker 2: Now, Really I have to worry about that, you know,
Speaker 2: because sometimes you also have to think about who's gonna
Speaker 2: be the father of your kids. You can't just date
Speaker 2: without intention. But then once you get that out the way,
Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, like do you want to have
Speaker 2: more kids?
Speaker 1: Are you done? You think the shop is closed? Okay?
Speaker 1: But got it?
Speaker 2: No? More like, yeah, I have a workout and I
Speaker 2: had a mommy make over.
Speaker 1: We're done? All right?
Speaker 3: Maybe a sarrogate, but I mean, you know, I got
Speaker 3: my three beautiful, beautiful babies, and I'm really happy and uh,
Speaker 3: just focusing on really finding my voice myself and just elevating.
Speaker 1: Really see, I think that's a blessing.
Speaker 2: Like if I would have had kids out of it,
Speaker 2: you know, then you don't have to think about.
Speaker 1: It, still thinking about it? Wait, wait, what's up with you?
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it? What's that about? You know? Wait
Speaker 1: a minute? No, I got my man. We're good. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: heis me some playdates. Here's always me playdating.
Speaker 2: She's got her two kids, you know what I'm saying. Whoever,
Speaker 2: she got amazing a boy and a girl. I have
Speaker 2: a sixteen year old young lady.
Speaker 1: Sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not repeating myself. Yeah, I'm staying where
Speaker 2: I'm at.
Speaker 1: That's it. You're done. Yeah, I think I'm done. You
Speaker 1: got your boy and girls. Okay.
Speaker 2: So if you have to think about lessons learned, because
Speaker 2: I also think you go through things and you learn
Speaker 2: from them. So moving forward, what would you say, are
Speaker 2: some valuable lessons that you've learned when it comes to
Speaker 2: love relationships and what tru ones?
Speaker 3: Honestly, you know, I don't want to be like jaded
Speaker 3: or bitter, So I don't want to say, like, you know,
Speaker 3: this was all a mistake or anything. I think that
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, what I would do
Speaker 3: differently is just have certain conversations, not just let the
Speaker 3: emotions lead me like, oh, this is love, this chemistry
Speaker 3: is amazing. Have those really difficult conversations to say, let's
Speaker 3: like agree on some things before we get married, because
Speaker 3: I do still believe in that, because the conversation that
Speaker 3: isn't had a lot of times. You know, you're in
Speaker 3: this fairy tale land is yes, what happens if this
Speaker 3: doesn't work right? You know, apart from us doing prenups
Speaker 3: and all of that, let's talk amongst me and you
Speaker 3: when we break up? What can we Absolutely you can't
Speaker 3: go into a relationship talking about the breakup.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't. Don't know what difficult.
Speaker 2: Exactly because it's kind of like how we're sitting here.
Speaker 2: I will not I can't imagine talking to my man
Speaker 2: and being like, when we.
Speaker 1: Break up, how are we going to handle this?
Speaker 2: I always thought that over here talking about I want, well,
Speaker 2: that's that's a preen up situation. That's after the breakup,
Speaker 2: because you know, it's a post nothing but if you're
Speaker 2: dating somebody, do you address a breakup before it? Like, well,
Speaker 2: if you're dating with intention, if that's the difficult conversation
Speaker 2: that you're going to have, if ever this was to
Speaker 2: come to an end, nobody wants to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Those people don't talk about exactly, we don't talk about it.
Speaker 1: That's so difficult at the end because because then you
Speaker 1: could be like, remember you.
Speaker 2: Harry yet and we signed it, but none of that
Speaker 2: is on the table. That's a different thing. Yes, I
Speaker 2: think that's a contractual agreement. But I do believe that.
Speaker 2: You know, first of it's hard to say, like, if
Speaker 2: we break up, you're gonna do this, because no one
Speaker 2: really is going to do what they said they were
Speaker 2: going to do when emotions are involved and it's a
Speaker 2: real breakup.
Speaker 1: Prenup is different.
Speaker 2: It's talking about you because at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: we know what we spoke about. And I'm not saying
Speaker 2: your word has to be bombed, but you know what
Speaker 2: you spoke about, or even for me, and this is
Speaker 2: just me. I'm like, we're gonna put it on paper,
Speaker 2: we're gonna sign it andie it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because people won't remember what they said and when
Speaker 3: you are six figures into divorce in voices.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just let that RESU is not a game.
Speaker 1: This is not a joke.
Speaker 2: I feel like you make more money too, So what
Speaker 2: if like I don't know that.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 2: I do well, but you know, but so what are
Speaker 2: your thoughts about spouse and support like from a woman?
Speaker 1: I feel like, well, spouse was born from a woman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like cause you.
Speaker 2: Know saying he wants spouse and support from Cardi, she
Speaker 2: went off right right, right, right right? So if you
Speaker 2: make more what do you think? Because women get it?
Speaker 2: But like, would you how would you feel?
Speaker 1: I would be busy, sad? Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Because when you.
Speaker 3: My father was a pediatrician, he was the man of
Speaker 3: the house. I feel like as a man, regardless if
Speaker 3: you got it or you don't, you gotta go.
Speaker 1: And find it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a it's a level, it's God and
Speaker 3: then it's the man. Women naturally submit to the man, right,
Speaker 3: that's the old fashioned way.
Speaker 1: I believe in that.
Speaker 3: I watched my parents do it and it was beautiful,
Speaker 3: so I would never down that. But I feel like
Speaker 3: if you walk around with your chessehel and mind, your
Speaker 3: mind has a must.
Speaker 1: We walked.
Speaker 3: If you walk around like this and you want to
Speaker 3: talk to me, then you don't need to come and
Speaker 3: try to take my business and everything I have, Like
Speaker 3: you need to make sure you're always providing. I think
Speaker 3: if two people are focused on the children and providing
Speaker 3: for them, then why we got to take from each other?
Speaker 1: Right? It should all go to them. It's just how
Speaker 1: I feel. So you wouldn't want it either, then?
Speaker 3: No, No, I just want you to take care of
Speaker 3: your kids because right now, like I'm out, You know,
Speaker 3: I don't want anything from you for me personally, but
Speaker 3: just for you.
Speaker 1: I had me yes, and when you came along.
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy that because I think you guys
Speaker 2: got married pretty quickly too.
Speaker 1: We did after a meeting.
Speaker 2: But isn't it crazy how long it takes to break
Speaker 2: up versus how long it took to get married five
Speaker 2: months and here we are like two years five months,
Speaker 2: and then you got pregnant in eight months in right's
Speaker 2: remember he said that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That was like falling hard and fast.
Speaker 2: Because some people feel like you know that quickly because
Speaker 2: people always say, oh, you meet the representative first, and
Speaker 2: it takes X amount of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it did last ten years.
Speaker 3: But do you feel like you well technically like I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: like seven okay, technically seven? Well, technically SPI wore three
Speaker 3: because most of the marriages, me going to counseling and
Speaker 3: me fighting for it.
Speaker 2: And me like we you not leaving me? What you
Speaker 2: mean divorce? No, divorce is not on the table. It
Speaker 2: was a lot of that and me really fighting for it.
Speaker 2: Do you wish you would have got divorced quicker? Yeah,
Speaker 2: because in retrospect, going back to when things weren't going well,
Speaker 2: because sometimes we fight so hard because we feel like
Speaker 2: we got to do the right thing. But when do
Speaker 2: you like finally say this just didn't work, Like, do
Speaker 2: you wish that two or three years in when you
Speaker 2: could see you, like that little Oprah.
Speaker 1: Right here at work doing what she did?
Speaker 2: Because I answer the question, I said, wait, that probably
Speaker 2: wasn't the right answer, because now you're making me thinking
Speaker 2: go deeper because honestly, who.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 3: I don't live with regrets, so I'm not going to
Speaker 3: say I should have left him earlier. Right in hindsight,
Speaker 3: I could have and said okay, but I might regret
Speaker 3: that decision, like wha maybe I could have made it
Speaker 3: work and like, did I leave too soon? So now
Speaker 3: I can sit here and say, like, I know I
Speaker 3: did everything. I tried everything. I recently had a conversation
Speaker 3: where I was like, every time he said it was me,
Speaker 3: I was like, I hope it's me, because I know
Speaker 3: I'm going to go do the work to fix it
Speaker 3: and come back and make it right and then we
Speaker 3: won't have that problem anymore. So as long as it
Speaker 3: was me at fault, I was like, okay, we still
Speaker 3: got a chance. But when it was like, wait, I'm
Speaker 3: pretty much like been in counseling and I know I'm growing,
Speaker 3: but yet you're not working on self, So now you
Speaker 3: can't say it's me every time. You got to take
Speaker 3: some accountability and responsibility. And when that happened, it was like, wait,
Speaker 3: so you're not going to work on this. You're not
Speaker 3: going to fight. And that's when.
Speaker 2: The rubber meets the row where it's like it's over.
Speaker 2: Live with the fact that, listen, I didn't give up.
Speaker 2: I did my best. And a lot of people they
Speaker 2: do that when they get tired, when it gets boring,
Speaker 2: or when it's other things going on and they get distracted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so exactly say that you didn't give up.
Speaker 3: I can say I did not give up, and I
Speaker 3: don't have regrets, so therefore I did everything I could
Speaker 3: and what else can I do?
Speaker 1: You know what else could I have done? True?
Speaker 2: You didn't it's yeah, I want you to see this
Speaker 2: meme though. Let me I'm gonna find it because I
Speaker 2: want you to see it because I thought it was
Speaker 2: really cute, like it's a nice throwback and it's like
Speaker 2: she always been that girl, and I want you to.
Speaker 1: So what all that means? Said? Why Ange looks for that? Man?
Speaker 2: I have to ask this question because you know, we
Speaker 2: get into these conversations and at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know what you
Speaker 2: had with that person goes on between you, the conversations
Speaker 2: you had.
Speaker 1: Let me see it, okay, Tomork go okay.
Speaker 2: Well thank you for the last It said, You've always
Speaker 2: been that girl, but y'all keep sleeping on her. It
Speaker 2: has seven hundred and forty four thousand not rocking it on.
Speaker 2: That's what to tell you, twenty two thousand to me,
Speaker 2: I can repost that's a video. I missed that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at how cute that is. Yes, because you.
Speaker 2: Know what's interesting is see like the younger generation watching
Speaker 2: the show not knowing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, already grew up, been working. Like that's
Speaker 1: all I know is work.
Speaker 3: That's why when people say like, oh my god, she's
Speaker 3: working with Dinners, I'm like, I work with Todd, I
Speaker 3: did a play with Leon, I did a song with Leo, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's never been inappropriate.
Speaker 1: I'm just working.
Speaker 2: You know what, You're the definition of a girl who
Speaker 2: knows how to room and who knows how to move
Speaker 2: in a room for the vultures where people are you know,
Speaker 2: obviously sometimes when women are working with men is challenging enough.
Speaker 2: So people always want to say things that are true.
Speaker 3: But your work speak for yourself. So and that's what
Speaker 3: I was proud of with the album. It was like, Okay, well,
Speaker 3: how were we doing this if we had to do
Speaker 3: like y'all hear the hard work, you know, the blessed
Speaker 3: what's your studio ain't free and the voice is.
Speaker 2: Voicing And the voice was there. She was resting and
Speaker 2: drinking her ginger tea.
Speaker 3: And like, you know, so, like I said, people that
Speaker 3: know no, And I think it was just something that
Speaker 3: was created to have something to talk about.
Speaker 2: You know, you said that Portia knew you were working
Speaker 2: with Dennis. It was kind of you said, you have
Speaker 2: the receipts in case you need them, So you really
Speaker 2: do believe that was just like a storyline of her
Speaker 2: being upset. I remember I had Shamiah on my show
Speaker 2: and we had a conversation. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: saw it about because I was like, I mean, if
Speaker 2: it's work, I would want my friend to work with somebody,
Speaker 2: you know that previously, even if I used to date them.
Speaker 2: If it's you know, if I trust you and it's
Speaker 2: a way to get money, I'm not mad at it, right,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: So that was my thought.
Speaker 2: People was dragging me for that really because I'm a
Speaker 2: very like I can be a very cut and dry person,
Speaker 2: like I would tell you about it, like you said
Speaker 2: you told her. But you know, at the same time,
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm never gonna tell my friend to not
Speaker 2: get a check. If I had, like, you know, an
Speaker 2: ex boyfriend or whatever that was like a producer or
Speaker 2: somebody that could help, somebody who I was cool with
Speaker 2: in the studio, I would be like, you know, get
Speaker 2: your money, get your coins.
Speaker 3: Well, I think like the girl code is and the
Speaker 3: gag is that I was calling Portia, texting or calling
Speaker 3: or texting or calling her and at that time, she
Speaker 3: was like living her African princess life.
Speaker 1: She should have been thanking you for keeping her dream aloud.
Speaker 1: I was. I was just you know, I was.
Speaker 2: I was the lady of twirls, was getting a story
Speaker 2: because of h thank you wellriot, But no, I do.
Speaker 3: Look, it wasn't like that. It wasn't like, oh, I'm
Speaker 3: going to work with him secretly. I reached out to
Speaker 3: her multiple times. She was in Dubai and Nigeria and
Speaker 3: just she wasn't really checking for her girls at that time,
Speaker 3: and we weren't tripping because we're like we're happy, girl,
Speaker 3: go get your love, but don't come back now that
Speaker 3: that didn't work out, per se, and now you have
Speaker 3: an issue because you're focused on what baby daddy is.
Speaker 1: Doing, you know.
Speaker 3: And that was the thing is that you know, Dennis
Speaker 3: was always transparent once you know everything was happening with her.
Speaker 1: I reached out to her when I heard about her divorce.
Speaker 3: It was like I just felt like I checked every
Speaker 3: box and of course we can always do things better,
Speaker 3: but I was like, girl, get with your girl, call
Speaker 3: me like, let's hang out. I have those receipts, okay,
Speaker 3: So we need to have receipts because I got I
Speaker 3: don't want to see proof.
Speaker 1: Now I got the proof.
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, Dennis told her
Speaker 3: what was going on. She said, she was coming to
Speaker 3: my birthday party, but she just couldn't make it. So
Speaker 3: why would you be coming to my birthday party if
Speaker 3: Dinnis invited you, like, you had to know that we
Speaker 3: were obviously doing work together at that time.
Speaker 2: But y'all did have a sit down. It didn't end
Speaker 2: well because she broke out. But do you see a
Speaker 2: way do you see her way forward? Do you like
Speaker 2: if she was to be like, you know what, like
Speaker 2: I'm tripping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And she kind of said that, you know, she said, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe I was tripping and all this, but I just
Speaker 3: feel like an apology and really just us to get
Speaker 3: over it. It is going to take work from her
Speaker 3: because I've like done the a let's sit down.
Speaker 1: Can we talk? Can we talk? Can we talk?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, okay.
Speaker 3: And then we finally had the conversation and I was
Speaker 3: met with all the shade and like you said, like
Speaker 3: these people she's thrown at me, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, first of all, you threw it back. I threw
Speaker 1: it back and it got bleaked.
Speaker 3: But I still like, we know what's up, and you know,
Speaker 3: I just reciprocate basically, you know, the energy.
Speaker 1: These guys is getting just thrown in the mix too
Speaker 1: and catching strays for no reason.
Speaker 2: They're like, wait, I want to ask you this brit
Speaker 2: event that she had. No, I don't want to hear
Speaker 2: what you thought about her launch party on the golf
Speaker 2: course because that was a major situation where everybody didn't
Speaker 2: get a chance to eat. It was only supposed to
Speaker 2: be a menu for you guys and a gift box,
Speaker 2: which you said, you know, well anyway, you know they're
Speaker 2: trying to I mean they.
Speaker 1: Have been trying. Well, no, you know what.
Speaker 3: I wore it in a video, so it is featured
Speaker 3: under my garments in a video because I was like,
Speaker 3: let me try it on. But it's like a black
Speaker 3: just you know, you can get it from Amazon really,
Speaker 3: so I'm not going to say it didn't anything. I mean,
Speaker 3: we won't love am I I support a black woman
Speaker 3: trying to do her thing.
Speaker 1: I was there. I wore it in a video. I've
Speaker 1: done my party now. I want to say.
Speaker 2: One thing I will say about the show is even
Speaker 2: when y'all not getting along, it feels like y'all kind
Speaker 2: of support each other's It's interesting. Yeah, no, no, no, because yeah,
Speaker 2: there's not a time where somebody can't call and be like,
Speaker 2: hey girl, can you and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: it does still happen, like, yeah, I think it's like
Speaker 2: a serial photo shoots and yeah, it's a sisterhood at
Speaker 2: the root of everything. We don't always get to the roots,
Speaker 2: you know, because we have our disagreements, our challenges. But
Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, when people
Speaker 2: are going through real life challenges or they have a
Speaker 2: new venture, we show up and I think that's the
Speaker 2: beauty that people need to know that there's a love there.
Speaker 2: For sure, we may not always agree, we'll agree to disagree,
Speaker 2: and we got to work out some things, you know,
Speaker 2: and have those tough conversations, but I think that's what
Speaker 2: friends should be, you know, and friendship should be, like
Speaker 2: we have to hold each other accountable, hold my feet
Speaker 2: to the fire in general, women in general. If there's
Speaker 2: an issue, then let's let's talk it out. Does anybody
Speaker 2: ever try to hook you up with someone all the time? Okay,
Speaker 2: anybody good?
Speaker 1: The dms have been like really exciting.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, just hold on right there, I'll be
Speaker 4: right back.
Speaker 1: And I've gone on a couple of dates and like
Speaker 1: it's been.
Speaker 2: Tell me like what the dates were, Like, where'd you go?
Speaker 2: Where does someone take Drew Sodora?
Speaker 3: Well, since I've been so busy, I've been on like
Speaker 3: promo tours, people have like flown in and come like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come support you, so you perform or come
Speaker 3: to your album release party, whatever it may be. And
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. So they'll come, we'll meet, they'll ring roses, whatever.
Speaker 2: You're open to going out with. You know, they made
Speaker 2: the effort. Sometime, they made the effort.
Speaker 3: And if I hang out, we're like in a group
Speaker 3: setting and you know it's like it's it's cool.
Speaker 2: It's not like a one on one. There's nobody that
Speaker 2: you're like, I could see this going further.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but when.
Speaker 2: You bring someone on the show, you think maybe listen
Speaker 2: if it pans out, you know, once this is over,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I would be so excited to
Speaker 2: bring that person into my world. And if they're willing
Speaker 2: to show up and be on these crazy cameras.
Speaker 1: And bring an additional happiness, yeah, like why not. You
Speaker 1: gotta be that level up too. They gotta listen to
Speaker 1: a lot of people ms. I'm like, oh, whoa, what's
Speaker 1: a good one? I'm looking for you. What's your type?
Speaker 3: It was funny because I was talking about I was
Speaker 3: talking about sister. I was like, do I have a
Speaker 3: type anymore? I don't even think I have a type.
Speaker 3: It's all over the place.
Speaker 1: I just really at this point, I want peace. It's
Speaker 1: the bare minimum. I just want peace. I just want
Speaker 1: somebody that.
Speaker 3: Knows who they are and knows what they want in
Speaker 3: life and as a level of respect. It's like easy breezy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's so easy breezy. The little things, well, y'all hear regds,
Speaker 3: y'all hear it.
Speaker 1: First, Have you want as far as like kissing somebody else?
Speaker 1: Or has it flirting? Flirting for sure, because kissing is
Speaker 1: you know where somebody asked me this thing is intimate?
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Yeah, this is a crazy question. But
Speaker 1: at work. You know who asked me this? It was
Speaker 1: main o.
Speaker 2: Oh he was like, what's worse to you for guy
Speaker 2: teating you by performing oral on a woman or having sex?
Speaker 1: And I was either is bad but oral. I feel like,
Speaker 1: how dare you?
Speaker 2: It's also kind of liked you ain't getting nothing right
Speaker 2: because like, do you feel some type of way about
Speaker 2: this woman that you would do oral and receive nothing
Speaker 2: else right if you're already in a relationship, Like if
Speaker 2: we do that, why you like playing in general, but
Speaker 2: playing with your mouth? Yeah, like really, yeah, I can't
Speaker 2: even kiss you after that. I can't do nothing than
Speaker 2: with you at.
Speaker 1: It because kissing guys, yes, yeah, I mean I was married,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, well, what are we talking about? Guys
Speaker 1: like you were just saying.
Speaker 2: That if the guy was outside, it's either or what
Speaker 2: made you beside?
Speaker 1: Right? Out of all things, you ain't just hit it?
Speaker 2: And because God got more of a problem if a
Speaker 2: woman does, oh, they would be that's like the most disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Thing, Like, oh yeah, I ain't hit it, but she.
Speaker 3: Exactly like that means something different on their Richter scale,
Speaker 3: where I'm like, hold on and all of that is
Speaker 3: the same. I feel like we're just like in each
Speaker 3: other's intimate space, like we gotta have some boundaries.
Speaker 1: And we going back to that, right. I told them,
Speaker 1: I was like, this level is cheating. Okay, let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, this levels of cheating.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like don't bring nobody in the house. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: cheating in the house. Is like, oh sorry, just wait
Speaker 2: a minute. Was no nobody cheated at my house? Because
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, different people side.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've had people in my basement, but they're
Speaker 3: in my basement.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, hey, hold on.
Speaker 2: There's been women in the basement, always been women in
Speaker 2: the basement. I have to manifesto.
Speaker 1: We live in a gated community. We all have to
Speaker 1: do is call the game.
Speaker 2: And I saw, actually, here's the thing, how's hold on?
Speaker 2: What is cheated you?
Speaker 1: I actually went to my daughters.
Speaker 3: I've never talked about this publicly, but I went to
Speaker 3: my daughter's. They had like a school lunch with the parents,
Speaker 3: and so I went with my daughter to surprise her
Speaker 3: for lunch. And it was this girl like me mugging me.
Speaker 3: Her daughter was in my daughter's class. She was me
Speaker 3: mugging me. He was a parent, a parent intentional.
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, if you see somebody you're
Speaker 2: just eating, like the little turkey and the whole they have.
Speaker 1: And she's like.
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, you're right, and she was
Speaker 2: like aren't you. And I'm like, well you know everybody? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like clearly, like you see my daughter. And I was like,
Speaker 2: what's your name? And so she said her name was, Oh.
Speaker 1: Nice to meet Kay.
Speaker 2: You've been in my house. She's like, in the basement
Speaker 2: working out with Ralph.
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting worked out. Yes, on my treadmill. That again,
Speaker 1: not do that again. It's my treadmill. Did you let
Speaker 1: me him borrow my shorts? That's crazy?
Speaker 2: I was crazy, like I can't even go to my
Speaker 2: neighborhood school without getting approached and where.
Speaker 1: The problem comes in.
Speaker 2: And I was telling Angela, don't embarrass me when it
Speaker 2: becomes local. Can you go anywhere outside of our everyday basis.
Speaker 1: I'm at my.
Speaker 2: Children, my our children's school, and you got the parent
Speaker 2: took them out. I was in your basement.
Speaker 1: How do you feel, ma'am? Can I ask your question, ma'am?
Speaker 1: How do you feel?
Speaker 2: Telling Drew Sidora I was in your basement? That sounds crazy.
Speaker 1: It's interesting.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the basement, man, But then look as as you're
Speaker 2: single now to write not legally but know so could
Speaker 2: you have somebody over.
Speaker 3: I would never, you know, it's just like class, too
Speaker 3: many memories there. I feel like any of my own space,
Speaker 3: my own energy, and you know, just create that environment
Speaker 3: where it's comfortable. I just feel like it's a time
Speaker 3: and place for things and it's just not for me
Speaker 3: the right time or place.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that, like I'm getting all of.
Speaker 3: These strays coming at me and I'm like, that ain't
Speaker 3: happening because i just don't feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: That's just me.
Speaker 3: Other people can do what they feel, but for me,
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's too much. I got three kids at
Speaker 3: the house.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing.
Speaker 2: The kids are upstairs with you, with me, So do
Speaker 2: they have times where.
Speaker 1: It's the whole thing?
Speaker 2: Are they downstairs with dad like that we can spend
Speaker 2: time with.
Speaker 1: Are going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, No, that happens. Kids go downstairs because they
Speaker 3: love their dad. And I will ever say that he's
Speaker 3: not a good father. He loves his kids.
Speaker 1: I said, relief, you know that that is a blessing.
Speaker 3: So they'll go down there and they'll you know, talk
Speaker 3: to him and play with him and do different things,
Speaker 3: and they will come back up and be like, Mommy,
Speaker 3: it's a lady down there. I'm sorry, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: was she nice?
Speaker 1: All? Like everybody was like was she nice? Well? You know, so, you.
Speaker 2: Guys, it's good you're not one of those because but
Speaker 2: he said he's never cheated on you.
Speaker 1: I saw he said that. Did y'all believe when he
Speaker 1: said that? Though?
Speaker 2: You see he believed it was the question right, but
Speaker 2: technic than you know how people could say anything, because
Speaker 2: I do feel like, all right, bro, you know, just yes,
Speaker 2: I did like.
Speaker 3: Her receipts of otherwise, so what is his okay? I
Speaker 3: showed him to Andy last reunion. Andy was like, oh,
Speaker 3: these are deaf you know. I try to protect as
Speaker 3: much as I can, but I mean, it is what
Speaker 3: it is, and I'm like, just say it, you know,
Speaker 3: just say what it is and be honest for one
Speaker 3: about what it has been instead of trying to throw
Speaker 3: out these narratives on me and play victim.
Speaker 1: I don't subscribe and I don't appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Did you guys ever discuss what cheating is in your relationship?
Speaker 2: Because no, I'm not trying to be funny because people
Speaker 2: like what is she talking about? But cheating and two
Speaker 2: different people look like different things.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: For me, cheating is not going out, having a conversation,
Speaker 2: texta or even hanging out with somebody. I've had friends.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a hare stylist. That's what I do
Speaker 2: on my normal day to day. Right, So I've had clients.
Speaker 2: A client tell me that if he mayn didn't spend
Speaker 2: money on the girl, and if he didn't have unprotected
Speaker 2: sex with her, that that's not cheating. So there's different
Speaker 2: But to her that wasn't cheating. So there's different levels
Speaker 2: to cheating if you have the conversation of what cheating
Speaker 2: looks right, you know, obviously you guys are married. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it could be a lot of different ways that you're cheating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: I mean I have girlfriends who have, like legit, been
Speaker 3: married and their husband has had like a baby outside
Speaker 3: of the Maryora.
Speaker 1: I mean, but they forgiven, they have forgiven. But we forgave.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they forgave, and I think the husband showed up.
Speaker 3: You know, in my relationships and my friendships, they're like,
Speaker 3: but he showed up and he worked extremely hard for
Speaker 3: that forgiveness. So for them, that was their tolerance level.
Speaker 3: I'm like girl me. But for me, it's like if
Speaker 3: you ask for a girlfriend, yeah, it's like we're just happened.
Speaker 3: That's pretty obvious. Like wait a minute, because the woman
Speaker 3: we feel like.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're beautiful, we're working hard, we're checking all these
Speaker 2: boxes for the person we love, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden they're like, yeah, you ain't doing much.
Speaker 1: Can I have a girlfriend?
Speaker 2: And that was you Yeah, yeah, oh so bringing somebody
Speaker 2: else in with you. He asked me that if you
Speaker 2: guys could have a girlfriend. He asked if he that,
Speaker 2: well he could, Yeah, how would you if he said
Speaker 2: could we have a girlfriend with That changed the narrative
Speaker 2: of what he was saying, because it's like, I still
Speaker 2: want my wife, but this is something that I need.
Speaker 1: You know what you're not.
Speaker 4: I'd be like, well, talk a little deeper about this agreement.
Speaker 3: I ain't no fun at homie came from friends, Honey.
Speaker 3: I feel like if you're married, as long as y'all
Speaker 3: have an understanding and agreement, I'm like that wife. That's like, listen,
Speaker 3: I work, I travel, I understand. You know if you
Speaker 3: have needs that I may not be able to meet
Speaker 3: all the time. And I don't feel like it, and
Speaker 3: I'm tired. I don't watch clothes, cook dinner, taking their kids,
Speaker 3: and I'm brought home some a couple of checks, Like
Speaker 3: you know, if you if I'm not checking every box,
Speaker 3: it's a conversation. So I always say to my friends
Speaker 3: who are married in relationships, like, as long as y'all
Speaker 3: two are on the same page, it doesn't matter about
Speaker 3: what anybody else thinks, anyone else's opinions. I just feel
Speaker 3: like for us, it was just so many lies and
Speaker 3: just me finding out things and going through the zone
Speaker 3: and seeing things that was like have me up at
Speaker 3: night crying where I'm like, yo, like, if you're faithful,
Speaker 3: you're faithful, But if it's something else you want, like,
Speaker 3: we need to have a conversation. So when it was
Speaker 3: approached to me for him to want something else and
Speaker 3: have a girlfriend, I didn't understand why. You know, it's
Speaker 3: been all of these women and now you want a girlfriend.
Speaker 3: And so I think that at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: you guys have to be willing to have a conversation
Speaker 3: and not just throw these things out here haphazardly. That
Speaker 3: can be very devastating and heartbreaking. You have to show
Speaker 3: up and be honest to your woman and your relationship
Speaker 3: one hundred percent for y'all to have some level of understanding.
Speaker 3: And I feel like for me, it just was never there.
Speaker 3: It was just never that. It was like I said it,
Speaker 3: But we're not going to be able to sit down
Speaker 3: and have an adult conversation.
Speaker 2: You understand how this would work? What does that look like?
Speaker 2: Am I willing to accept this? Am I choosing this?
Speaker 2: Because if I choose it, then I'm choosing it. If
Speaker 2: I don't choose it, let me walk away.
Speaker 3: And he always somehow positioned himself to appear to be
Speaker 3: this doting prince, you know, night and shining armor, faithful
Speaker 3: man saying I never cheated on her, which that is
Speaker 3: a boldfaced lie. I know why he won't just be
Speaker 3: like a game and then let me tell says because
Speaker 3: as women we need to like whoa.
Speaker 2: I thought, this is what this was, but it's not.
Speaker 2: To let me go and process it. Let's talk about it,
Speaker 2: and that takes time. And when you just take that
Speaker 2: away from me, that opportunity away from me, I'm left
Speaker 2: to figure it out by myself.
Speaker 1: That's not marriage, you know.
Speaker 3: So how can we create what's going to make us
Speaker 3: both happy, and I feel like he just wasn't that
Speaker 3: partner to allow us to be able to last forever,
Speaker 3: because then as you saw, like it was this cousin
Speaker 3: and he turned against me and was like teaming up
Speaker 3: with my ops. Even this season he's filming with my ops.
Speaker 3: It's just like public humiliation embarrassment at its best. It's like,
Speaker 3: when is enough enough? A girl can nothing?
Speaker 2: Even though you guys are going through your marriage obviously
Speaker 2: take this oath in and all of that, I feel
Speaker 2: you feel like, maybe where is the protection even though
Speaker 2: we're not together, we still have children together, you teaming
Speaker 2: up with ops and people who are possibly against me
Speaker 2: in every way, and you know, and a lot of
Speaker 2: relationships we hear that I never want to see you
Speaker 2: do bad. I never want to see you fall on
Speaker 2: your face because we have children and I want to
Speaker 2: see you do well.
Speaker 1: So it's like, why are you doing this to me?
Speaker 1: Not what was me, but why are you.
Speaker 2: Doing this to me considering the fact that we have
Speaker 2: children and you're not protecting me in the marriage, outside
Speaker 2: of the marriage, separated divorce, you as a man, it
Speaker 2: is still your will to protect me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you haven't done that on the flip.
Speaker 1: Thank you. There's certain lines you don't cross. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't because I still want him to be great
Speaker 1: for our kids.
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, I know you got to go because
Speaker 2: you've been here a ton of press and look, before
Speaker 2: we in, I do want to point out that we
Speaker 2: got to talk about because I know Gigi's gonna address it,
Speaker 2: but Ralph has been doing his own interviews and like
Speaker 2: going places, and so I just want to say because
Speaker 2: I know Gigi's gonna want to talk about it because
Speaker 2: she felt bad that you thought that she you know
Speaker 2: that she called you about your name. So I do
Speaker 2: want to say she just like she just sent me
Speaker 2: the link to I haven't had a chance to look
Speaker 2: at it yet, but I just want to say it
Speaker 2: because she's not in here. You know, she wanted you
Speaker 2: to know she was like, I did not call her
Speaker 2: a bitch. I was not trying to whatever. So I
Speaker 2: just want to let you know that on the record
Speaker 2: while you're sitting here. But we're gonna I'm gonna look
Speaker 2: at it in it in real time, So this is
Speaker 2: what I'll say. M h, watch it because I know
Speaker 2: you do your work as a journalist I respect what
Speaker 2: you do wholeheartedly. I've come and sat, you know, amongst you,
Speaker 2: and we've had great conversation, great connection. I really feel
Speaker 2: like you're discerning and you're professional, right, and you get it,
Speaker 2: watch it and then have me back and we will
Speaker 2: talk about it. Because my whole team has watched that interview,
Speaker 2: and that was one of the few interviews that I watched,
Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, so it was very I watched.
Speaker 2: I watched up to a point that I couldn't watch
Speaker 2: the whole thing though, Yeah, well I didn't need to.
Speaker 2: She called me out my name, absolutely, you saw that
Speaker 2: partly particularly, Okay, well I'm going to take a look
Speaker 2: because I have not seen and she's like very adamant that,
Speaker 2: but she should probably watch it.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about.
Speaker 2: Him doing interviews though in general, because some people will say, well,
Speaker 2: he needs to be able to at least tell his
Speaker 2: side he's on the show.
Speaker 1: I feel like people have seen his actions.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything, as you just said that will
Speaker 3: minimize or diminish who he is as a wife. I
Speaker 3: definitely protected him for all of this time because I
Speaker 3: felt like there are certain things in marriage that are
Speaker 3: sacred and everything is not for everyone. So I did
Speaker 3: my part as a wife for that. However, when you
Speaker 3: start to speak on my mother, my father who passed away,
Speaker 3: it's certain boundaries.
Speaker 1: So now I'm going to talk.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm going to talk and tell my truth and
Speaker 3: be transparent so that people know the truth, because what
Speaker 3: you're doing is damaging a career I built since I
Speaker 3: was eight years old, my father's legacy and my mother's
Speaker 3: legacy of sixty years of marriage.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow to happen.
Speaker 2: And to Gigi, you know, I just say, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: I respect black women and what they're doing, and I
Speaker 2: always support that, and I really hero that and cheer
Speaker 2: that on. But when we start to call women out
Speaker 2: of their name, when you've never sat before me or
Speaker 2: met me, when you start to advocate for someone who
Speaker 2: has publicly humiliated me and we have seen it is
Speaker 2: something I'm saying. You can go back and watch it.
Speaker 2: Do your due diligence as a journalist, which.
Speaker 1: I've seen you do. I'm gonna I'm gonna just say that.
Speaker 2: Leave that there necessarily advocating and not defending because we
Speaker 2: have to. And that's why if being a misunderstanding and
Speaker 2: you know, obviously you are around women all the time,
Speaker 2: whether you're filming or just in general out in the public,
Speaker 2: and people look to you. Are you willing to at
Speaker 2: some point say, hey, we need to have a conversation
Speaker 2: because that was right and this is how I felt,
Speaker 2: and you know, at some point out.
Speaker 1: Of respect for you here like oh listen, no.
Speaker 2: No, no, because like, well, I want to say she
Speaker 2: was very like she wasn't like oh she was like,
Speaker 2: oh damn, I didn't do that.
Speaker 1: I don't comfortable al go, yeah, same energy, honey, I
Speaker 1: saw you watch it? Because I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't at then the day people can say, oh,
Speaker 2: she's an actress, I'm from Chicago, I'm a real girl
Speaker 2: that goes out the window.
Speaker 1: I'm a woman, I'm a mother, And as black women.
Speaker 3: We have to start communicating and doing what's right to
Speaker 3: protect our black women. And I will never sit before
Speaker 3: anyone and ever purposefully sit on a platform because we
Speaker 3: have a big platform and we have a responsibility. I'm
Speaker 3: never going to damage anyone and.
Speaker 2: Their career, their personality, their brand, or anything that they're
Speaker 2: trying to promote and do in this world. Like I
Speaker 2: feel like we have to support each other and be
Speaker 2: neutral and give people constructive criticism and not bash people
Speaker 2: and calling people out of their name is disrespectful that
Speaker 2: I don't stand for disrespect and I don't stand for
Speaker 2: people to do low vibrational things.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I watched the interview. I really
Speaker 1: gave it a try.
Speaker 2: Anybody I see, I'm like, I don't know her personally,
Speaker 2: I don't know of her, but I did watch it,
Speaker 2: and at a certain point I turned it off because
Speaker 2: I just felt like it was it was very low vibrational,
Speaker 2: and it was very disrespectful and it was disheartening.
Speaker 1: Can I say that you are that bitch though?
Speaker 2: Really, like I mean, I I appreciate that, and I
Speaker 2: say all positive way to you.
Speaker 1: I uplift you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you because I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: you do something that's very rare, and I always uplift you.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like.
Speaker 2: She does and actually has such positive things to say,
Speaker 2: even off camera. It makes me feel good because sometimes
Speaker 2: I feel like as women, we don't get certain types
Speaker 2: of credit and not that we do things because we
Speaker 2: want to get credit for X, Y and Z. But
Speaker 2: it's nice acknowledge what it is that you're doing and
Speaker 2: honestly like, you bring a lot to that show and
Speaker 2: to that platform, and I'm rooting for you, you know so,
Speaker 2: And I'm glad that you're moving on past your situation
Speaker 2: and I cannot wait till you find happiness.
Speaker 1: Because you will.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm manifesting it. So I received that yes,
Speaker 3: And whenever you call me, I'm always here, like I'm
Speaker 3: always willing to come have a conversation and clarify, clear
Speaker 3: anything and come in peace.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you so much, and make sure
Speaker 2: you listen to the album because it's definitely a bot
Speaker 2: like yeah, and I'm going on.
Speaker 3: Tour, guys, so I need y'all to like listen. I'm
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Speaker 1: Going to be lit definitely.
Speaker 2: I'm doing Chicago Pride, holding them down for my city.
Speaker 2: But I want to see y'all. Okay, I'm down, you're not.
Speaker 1: I kind of want to go to Chicago because I'm
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Speaker 2: I yes, July fifth, I'm okay, oh fourth of July,
Speaker 2: Chicago Pride, please show up, show out and when my
Speaker 2: tours announced, like I would love to see all there,
Speaker 2: but I'm so proud of this body of work. So
Speaker 2: just if you haven't downloaded or strain it, please do.
Speaker 2: I did it to me.
Speaker 1: It's everywhere because all right, well, thank you, we appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank y'all for having me. Congratulations, thank you. I love y'all. Yes,