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Speaker 1: What's happen slip service, I'm ant in thee, I'm destiny.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Sodora like that, say, have you seen the meme

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Speaker 2: going around at you like she's always been that girl?

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Speaker 1: No? Really on social media and they're posting like throwback

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Speaker 1: clips of you singing and acting and all of that.

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Speaker 3: I've missed that one only I don't know why I

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Speaker 3: got a million girls said it to me.

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Speaker 1: I have to see that, because I was like, there's

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Speaker 1: no way you haven't seen that. I have not seen that.

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Speaker 3: I need to see that. That's positive reinforcement that I

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Speaker 3: need to.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we focus on the negative. Because I also see

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Speaker 2: people saying that you've been carrying this season on your back.

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Speaker 1: I've seen that. But how do you feel about that

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Speaker 1: heavy tire? No?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm appreciative to the fans. I feel like

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Speaker 3: the first and foremost the Bravo fans are unlike anybody.

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Speaker 1: Else, like they are ride or Die.

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Speaker 3: They are so invested, they're so loyal, and I just

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Speaker 3: feel like throughout these season, because we're so writing Season sixteen,

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Speaker 3: this season you know, Sweet sixteen, but they are, They're smart,

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Speaker 3: and I feel like now maybe things that people got

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Speaker 1: Before they don't get away with no more. Like the

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Speaker 1: fans are putting it together.

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Speaker 3: They are seeing what's real and what's not clocking everybody's tea,

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Speaker 3: and I just I see that because I do see

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Speaker 3: the comments where they're like, okay, you know, they're remembering things.

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Speaker 3: They're recalling things. They're like, nad you didn't say that,

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Speaker 3: or either all my girls, she didn't do this, or

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Speaker 3: I'm yeah. So I'm like, okay, I don't have to

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Speaker 3: you know, and.

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Speaker 1: You're adjusted because I think coming in what season did

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Speaker 1: you start on? I came in on season thirteen, season thirteen? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that had to be difficult.

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Speaker 2: I remember wat seing season thirteen and being so annoyed

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Speaker 2: at I know, we hate to make but at Ralph

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Speaker 2: like traveling out of town and not answering and not

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Speaker 2: this ain't gonna like you could see it from then

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Speaker 2: and then we see where we are now, you know,

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Speaker 2: So I really.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: So when Destiny found out you were coming, she's going

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Speaker 2: through some shit right in my house right now?

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Speaker 1: What in your high house? Why does that sound like

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Speaker 1: a children's book in my house?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not married and I don't have children,

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Speaker 2: so I guess that's even more. But you have children,

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Speaker 2: not with him, no, not with him yet, but you

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Speaker 2: have children together. It's a little bit, but it also

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Speaker 2: teaches women like myself obviously not being married and not

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Speaker 2: is just not the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for her, that's the life. Your situation is different.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, everybody's situation is different, unique in its own way.

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Speaker 3: So how I used to compare like, oh, they got

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Speaker 3: all that goes out the window, you know, because when

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Speaker 3: years going through this process. It is legit in years,

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Speaker 3: but you realize, like what works for other people does

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Speaker 3: and those things that you'll stand for not stand for,

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Speaker 3: and if it works, it works great, you know, but

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Speaker 1: And then everybody's breaking point is different. Well, this man

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Speaker 1: won't get out of her house and you don't girl,

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Speaker 1: but a little bit. But it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing for me.

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Speaker 3: I will always love Ralph like the love is real,

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Speaker 3: the love was real and so forever will be. But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean people are like, listen, people are chatting,

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Speaker 2: But also getting along for the kids is a mature thing,

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Speaker 1: That was a moment.

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Speaker 3: It was a Memorial Day holiday, and you will see

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Speaker 3: even on this season of Housewives, we are moving towards

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Speaker 3: Nurse, right, But we have beautiful children, so let's focus

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Speaker 2: I granted access and boundaries. That's my boundaries holiday. And

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Speaker 3: So his aunt respectfully called me and was like, she

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Speaker 3: she's recording and she's like, say hi to Helen, which

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Speaker 3: I love her, so I don't want to say that

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Speaker 2: That's the only meat I was tasting. And it was tasty,

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Speaker 2: an album out that I think people could really relate to.

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Speaker 1: But the songs on there feel like They're real. They

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Speaker 2: But as I'm saying, like, because I think sometimes are artists.

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Speaker 2: a way, this album is kind of it's cost so

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Speaker 3: It was and like anybody that knows me and has

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Speaker 3: This this music, let's make a hit record. Who just

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Speaker 3: Even though it's coming from Dennis, who I didn't know

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Speaker 3: This is resonating with me in a different way.

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Speaker 1: Which what makes you most emotional.

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Speaker 2: It's two of them, which one I would say I

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think I can sing this today,

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Speaker 2: like the whole album, I can say is a representation

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Speaker 1: That's the song we did.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when I listened to it, I felt like,

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Speaker 1: On Instagram did she was like, do you get verse ready?

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Speaker 1: I would if you don't get out of here with

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Speaker 2: Ready, I will say is a lot of the songs

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Speaker 1: Of the songs. I appreciate it. But you have been

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Speaker 2: I mean you know, I have since I was eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: my whole life. You don't even know what we like

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Speaker 3: But when I got married, I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I have a husband. I can like not have to

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Speaker 3: just be domesticated. So I embraced that, like the motherhood,

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Speaker 2: Completely just engulfed in work since I was a little girl.

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Speaker 1: But you still work, so that is dope. Now every

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Speaker 3: Like I took my moment and I was like, let's

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Speaker 3: get back to work because I'm passionate about what I do.

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Speaker 1: So I was like feeling like.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't know when. And honestly, it was like

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Speaker 2: a couple of movies I did. But then when Housewives called,

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Speaker 2: we moved to Atlanta and took that opportunity. Speaking of movies,

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Speaker 2: You know how hard emotionally mentally this is. I can

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Speaker 2: It's great, Like that.

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Speaker 2: That, you know, as far as you not being outside

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Speaker 1: I want to have fun. I think you should, like,

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Speaker 1: I think you deserve it.

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Speaker 2: I always felt like if I, you know, if I

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Speaker 2: Now, Really I have to worry about that, you know,

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Speaker 2: No? More like, yeah, I have a workout and I

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Speaker 1: Really see, I think that's a blessing.

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Speaker 2: Like if I would have had kids out of it,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it? What's that about? You know? Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute? No, I got my man. We're good. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: She's got her two kids, you know what I'm saying. Whoever,

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Speaker 1: Sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not repeating myself. Yeah, I'm staying where

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Speaker 3: Honestly, you know, I don't want to be like jaded

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Speaker 3: doesn't work right? You know, apart from us doing prenups

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Speaker 3: when we break up? What can we Absolutely you can't

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't. Don't know what difficult.

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Speaker 2: Exactly because it's kind of like how we're sitting here.

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Speaker 2: I will not I can't imagine talking to my man

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Speaker 2: I always thought that over here talking about I want, well,

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Speaker 2: if you're dating with intention, if that's the difficult conversation

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Speaker 1: Those people don't talk about exactly, we don't talk about it.

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Speaker 1: That's so difficult at the end because because then you

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Speaker 2: Harry yet and we signed it, but none of that

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Speaker 2: is on the table. That's a different thing. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: You know, first of it's hard to say, like, if

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Speaker 2: going to do when emotions are involved and it's a

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Speaker 1: Prenup is different.

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Speaker 2: It's talking about you because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: you spoke about, or even for me, and this is

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Speaker 2: just me. I'm like, we're gonna put it on paper,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna sign it andie it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because people won't remember what they said and when

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's just let that RESU is not a game.

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Speaker 1: This is not a joke.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you make more money too, So what

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Speaker 2: if like I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: But.

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Speaker 2: I do well, but you know, but so what are

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Speaker 1: I feel like, well, spouse was born from a woman. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Know saying he wants spouse and support from Cardi, she

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Speaker 2: went off right right, right, right right? So if you

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Speaker 2: make more what do you think? Because women get it?

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Speaker 2: But like, would you how would you feel?

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Speaker 1: I would be busy, sad? Like what are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: Because when you.

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Speaker 3: My father was a pediatrician, he was the man of

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Speaker 1: And find it.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a it's a level, it's God and

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Speaker 3: then it's the man. Women naturally submit to the man, right,

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Speaker 3: that's the old fashioned way.

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Speaker 1: I believe in that.

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Speaker 3: I watched my parents do it and it was beautiful,

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Speaker 3: so I would never down that. But I feel like

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Speaker 3: if you walk around with your chessehel and mind, your

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Speaker 1: We walked.

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Speaker 3: If you walk around like this and you want to

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Speaker 3: try to take my business and everything I have, Like

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Speaker 3: you need to make sure you're always providing. I think

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Speaker 1: Right? It should all go to them. It's just how

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Speaker 3: No, No, I just want you to take care of

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00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,679
Speaker 3: your kids because right now, like I'm out, You know,

440
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 3: I don't want anything from you for me personally, but

441
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: just for you.

442
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: I had me yes, and when you came along.

443
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy that because I think you guys

444
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 2: got married pretty quickly too.

445
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 1: We did after a meeting.

446
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,400
Speaker 2: But isn't it crazy how long it takes to break

447
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 2: up versus how long it took to get married five

448
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: months and here we are like two years five months,

449
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 2: and then you got pregnant in eight months in right's

450
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: remember he said that?

451
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That was like falling hard and fast.

452
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: Because some people feel like you know that quickly because

453
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 2: people always say, oh, you meet the representative first, and

454
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 2: it takes X amount of time.

455
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it did last ten years.

456
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 3: But do you feel like you well technically like I'm sorry,

457
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: like seven okay, technically seven? Well, technically SPI wore three

458
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,719
Speaker 3: because most of the marriages, me going to counseling and

459
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 3: me fighting for it.

460
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 2: And me like we you not leaving me? What you

461
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 2: mean divorce? No, divorce is not on the table. It

462
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: was a lot of that and me really fighting for it.

463
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 2: Do you wish you would have got divorced quicker? Yeah,

464
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: because in retrospect, going back to when things weren't going well,

465
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 2: because sometimes we fight so hard because we feel like

466
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: we got to do the right thing. But when do

467
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,199
Speaker 2: you like finally say this just didn't work, Like, do

468
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: you wish that two or three years in when you

469
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: could see you, like that little Oprah.

470
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: Right here at work doing what she did?

471
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: Because I answer the question, I said, wait, that probably

472
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 2: wasn't the right answer, because now you're making me thinking

473
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 2: go deeper because honestly, who.

474
00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: That's good.

475
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 3: I don't live with regrets, so I'm not going to

476
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: say I should have left him earlier. Right in hindsight,

477
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: I could have and said okay, but I might regret

478
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 3: that decision, like wha maybe I could have made it

479
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: work and like, did I leave too soon? So now

480
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: I can sit here and say, like, I know I

481
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 3: did everything. I tried everything. I recently had a conversation

482
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: where I was like, every time he said it was me,

483
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: I was like, I hope it's me, because I know

484
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to go do the work to fix it

485
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: and come back and make it right and then we

486
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 3: won't have that problem anymore. So as long as it

487
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: was me at fault, I was like, okay, we still

488
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 3: got a chance. But when it was like, wait, I'm

489
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: pretty much like been in counseling and I know I'm growing,

490
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 3: but yet you're not working on self, So now you

491
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 3: can't say it's me every time. You got to take

492
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 3: some accountability and responsibility. And when that happened, it was like, wait,

493
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: so you're not going to work on this. You're not

494
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: going to fight. And that's when.

495
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 2: The rubber meets the row where it's like it's over.

496
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: Live with the fact that, listen, I didn't give up.

497
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: I did my best. And a lot of people they

498
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: do that when they get tired, when it gets boring,

499
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: or when it's other things going on and they get distracted.

500
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so exactly say that you didn't give up.

501
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: I can say I did not give up, and I

502
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: don't have regrets, so therefore I did everything I could

503
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: and what else can I do?

504
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: You know what else could I have done? True?

505
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 2: You didn't it's yeah, I want you to see this

506
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: meme though. Let me I'm gonna find it because I

507
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: want you to see it because I thought it was

508
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 2: really cute, like it's a nice throwback and it's like

509
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: she always been that girl, and I want you to.

510
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: So what all that means? Said? Why Ange looks for that? Man?

511
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: I have to ask this question because you know, we

512
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: get into these conversations and at the end of the day,

513
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know what you

514
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: had with that person goes on between you, the conversations

515
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 2: you had.

516
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: Let me see it, okay, Tomork go okay.

517
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: Well thank you for the last It said, You've always

518
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: been that girl, but y'all keep sleeping on her. It

519
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 2: has seven hundred and forty four thousand not rocking it on.

520
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: That's what to tell you, twenty two thousand to me,

521
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: I can repost that's a video. I missed that one.

522
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at how cute that is. Yes, because you.

523
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: Know what's interesting is see like the younger generation watching

524
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: the show not knowing.

525
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, already grew up, been working. Like that's

526
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: all I know is work.

527
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: That's why when people say like, oh my god, she's

528
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: working with Dinners, I'm like, I work with Todd, I

529
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: did a play with Leon, I did a song with Leo, Like,

530
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's never been inappropriate.

531
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm just working.

532
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: You know what, You're the definition of a girl who

533
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: knows how to room and who knows how to move

534
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: in a room for the vultures where people are you know,

535
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: obviously sometimes when women are working with men is challenging enough.

536
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: So people always want to say things that are true.

537
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 3: But your work speak for yourself. So and that's what

538
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: I was proud of with the album. It was like, Okay, well,

539
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: how were we doing this if we had to do

540
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: like y'all hear the hard work, you know, the blessed

541
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: what's your studio ain't free and the voice is.

542
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: Voicing And the voice was there. She was resting and

543
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: drinking her ginger tea.

544
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 3: And like, you know, so, like I said, people that

545
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: know no, And I think it was just something that

546
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: was created to have something to talk about.

547
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: You know, you said that Portia knew you were working

548
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: with Dennis. It was kind of you said, you have

549
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 2: the receipts in case you need them, So you really

550
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: do believe that was just like a storyline of her

551
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: being upset. I remember I had Shamiah on my show

552
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: and we had a conversation. I don't know if you

553
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: saw it about because I was like, I mean, if

554
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: it's work, I would want my friend to work with somebody,

555
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: you know that previously, even if I used to date them.

556
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: If it's you know, if I trust you and it's

557
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: a way to get money, I'm not mad at it, right,

558
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: you know.

559
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: So that was my thought.

560
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: People was dragging me for that really because I'm a

561
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: very like I can be a very cut and dry person,

562
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: like I would tell you about it, like you said

563
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: you told her. But you know, at the same time,

564
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm never gonna tell my friend to not

565
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: get a check. If I had, like, you know, an

566
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: ex boyfriend or whatever that was like a producer or

567
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: somebody that could help, somebody who I was cool with

568
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: in the studio, I would be like, you know, get

569
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: your money, get your coins.

570
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: Well, I think like the girl code is and the

571
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: gag is that I was calling Portia, texting or calling

572
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 3: or texting or calling her and at that time, she

573
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: was like living her African princess life.

574
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: She should have been thanking you for keeping her dream aloud.

575
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: I was. I was just you know, I was.

576
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: I was the lady of twirls, was getting a story

577
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: because of h thank you wellriot, But no, I do.

578
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 3: Look, it wasn't like that. It wasn't like, oh, I'm

579
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: going to work with him secretly. I reached out to

580
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: her multiple times. She was in Dubai and Nigeria and

581
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: just she wasn't really checking for her girls at that time,

582
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: and we weren't tripping because we're like we're happy, girl,

583
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: go get your love, but don't come back now that

584
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: that didn't work out, per se, and now you have

585
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 3: an issue because you're focused on what baby daddy is.

586
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 1: Doing, you know.

587
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: And that was the thing is that you know, Dennis

588
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: was always transparent once you know everything was happening with her.

589
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: I reached out to her when I heard about her divorce.

590
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: It was like I just felt like I checked every

591
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: box and of course we can always do things better,

592
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: but I was like, girl, get with your girl, call

593
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 3: me like, let's hang out. I have those receipts, okay,

594
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: So we need to have receipts because I got I

595
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: don't want to see proof.

596
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Now I got the proof.

597
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, Dennis told her

598
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 3: what was going on. She said, she was coming to

599
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: my birthday party, but she just couldn't make it. So

600
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: why would you be coming to my birthday party if

601
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: Dinnis invited you, like, you had to know that we

602
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: were obviously doing work together at that time.

603
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: But y'all did have a sit down. It didn't end

604
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: well because she broke out. But do you see a

605
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 2: way do you see her way forward? Do you like

606
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: if she was to be like, you know what, like

607
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm tripping.

608
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And she kind of said that, you know, she said, like, Okay,

609
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: maybe I was tripping and all this, but I just

610
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: feel like an apology and really just us to get

611
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: over it. It is going to take work from her

612
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: because I've like done the a let's sit down.

613
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Can we talk? Can we talk? Can we talk?

614
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: No?

615
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: No, no, okay.

616
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: And then we finally had the conversation and I was

617
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: met with all the shade and like you said, like

618
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: these people she's thrown at me, and I'm.

619
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Like, first of all, you threw it back. I threw

620
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: it back and it got bleaked.

621
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: But I still like, we know what's up, and you know,

622
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: I just reciprocate basically, you know, the energy.

623
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: These guys is getting just thrown in the mix too

624
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: and catching strays for no reason.

625
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: They're like, wait, I want to ask you this brit

626
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: event that she had. No, I don't want to hear

627
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: what you thought about her launch party on the golf

628
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: course because that was a major situation where everybody didn't

629
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: get a chance to eat. It was only supposed to

630
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: be a menu for you guys and a gift box,

631
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: which you said, you know, well anyway, you know they're

632
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: trying to I mean they.

633
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Have been trying. Well, no, you know what.

634
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: I wore it in a video, so it is featured

635
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: under my garments in a video because I was like,

636
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: let me try it on. But it's like a black

637
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: just you know, you can get it from Amazon really,

638
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: so I'm not going to say it didn't anything. I mean,

639
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: we won't love am I I support a black woman

640
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: trying to do her thing.

641
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: I was there. I wore it in a video. I've

642
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: done my party now. I want to say.

643
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: One thing I will say about the show is even

644
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: when y'all not getting along, it feels like y'all kind

645
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: of support each other's It's interesting. Yeah, no, no, no, because yeah,

646
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: there's not a time where somebody can't call and be like,

647
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: hey girl, can you and you know what I mean,

648
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: it does still happen, like, yeah, I think it's like

649
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: a serial photo shoots and yeah, it's a sisterhood at

650
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: the root of everything. We don't always get to the roots,

651
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: you know, because we have our disagreements, our challenges. But

652
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, when people

653
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: are going through real life challenges or they have a

654
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: new venture, we show up and I think that's the

655
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: beauty that people need to know that there's a love there.

656
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: For sure, we may not always agree, we'll agree to disagree,

657
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: and we got to work out some things, you know,

658
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: and have those tough conversations, but I think that's what

659
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: friends should be, you know, and friendship should be, like

660
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: we have to hold each other accountable, hold my feet

661
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: to the fire in general, women in general. If there's

662
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: an issue, then let's let's talk it out. Does anybody

663
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: ever try to hook you up with someone all the time? Okay,

664
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: anybody good?

665
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: The dms have been like really exciting.

666
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, just hold on right there, I'll be

667
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: right back.

668
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: And I've gone on a couple of dates and like

669
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: it's been.

670
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: Tell me like what the dates were, Like, where'd you go?

671
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Where does someone take Drew Sodora?

672
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: Well, since I've been so busy, I've been on like

673
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: promo tours, people have like flown in and come like, oh,

674
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come support you, so you perform or come

675
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: to your album release party, whatever it may be. And

676
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. So they'll come, we'll meet, they'll ring roses, whatever.

677
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: You're open to going out with. You know, they made

678
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: the effort. Sometime, they made the effort.

679
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: And if I hang out, we're like in a group

680
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: setting and you know it's like it's it's cool.

681
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: It's not like a one on one. There's nobody that

682
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: you're like, I could see this going further.

683
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but when.

684
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: You bring someone on the show, you think maybe listen

685
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: if it pans out, you know, once this is over,

686
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I would be so excited to

687
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 2: bring that person into my world. And if they're willing

688
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: to show up and be on these crazy cameras.

689
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: And bring an additional happiness, yeah, like why not. You

690
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: gotta be that level up too. They gotta listen to

691
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people ms. I'm like, oh, whoa, what's

692
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: a good one? I'm looking for you. What's your type?

693
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: It was funny because I was talking about I was

694
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: talking about sister. I was like, do I have a

695
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: type anymore? I don't even think I have a type.

696
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: It's all over the place.

697
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: I just really at this point, I want peace. It's

698
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: the bare minimum. I just want peace. I just want

699
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: somebody that.

700
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: Knows who they are and knows what they want in

701
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: life and as a level of respect. It's like easy breezy. Yeah, yeah,

702
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: it's so easy breezy. The little things, well, y'all hear regds,

703
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: y'all hear it.

704
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: First, Have you want as far as like kissing somebody else?

705
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: Or has it flirting? Flirting for sure, because kissing is

706
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: you know where somebody asked me this thing is intimate?

707
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Yeah, this is a crazy question. But

708
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: at work. You know who asked me this? It was

709
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: main o.

710
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: Oh he was like, what's worse to you for guy

711
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: teating you by performing oral on a woman or having sex?

712
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: And I was either is bad but oral. I feel like,

713
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: how dare you?

714
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: It's also kind of liked you ain't getting nothing right

715
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: because like, do you feel some type of way about

716
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: this woman that you would do oral and receive nothing

717
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: else right if you're already in a relationship, Like if

718
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: we do that, why you like playing in general, but

719
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: playing with your mouth? Yeah, like really, yeah, I can't

720
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: even kiss you after that. I can't do nothing than

721
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: with you at.

722
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: It because kissing guys, yes, yeah, I mean I was married,

723
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: so I'm like, well, what are we talking about? Guys

724
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: like you were just saying.

725
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: That if the guy was outside, it's either or what

726
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: made you beside?

727
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: Right? Out of all things, you ain't just hit it?

728
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: And because God got more of a problem if a

729
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: woman does, oh, they would be that's like the most disrespectful.

730
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: Thing, Like, oh yeah, I ain't hit it, but she.

731
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: Exactly like that means something different on their Richter scale,

732
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: where I'm like, hold on and all of that is

733
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: the same. I feel like we're just like in each

734
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: other's intimate space, like we gotta have some boundaries.

735
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: And we going back to that, right. I told them,

736
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: I was like, this level is cheating. Okay, let's talk

737
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, this levels of cheating.

738
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Like don't bring nobody in the house. Okay, that's

739
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: cheating in the house. Is like, oh sorry, just wait

740
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: a minute. Was no nobody cheated at my house? Because

741
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, different people side.

742
00:33:59,080 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: I know.

743
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I've had people in my basement, but they're

744
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: in my basement.

745
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, hey, hold on.

746
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: There's been women in the basement, always been women in

747
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: the basement. I have to manifesto.

748
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: We live in a gated community. We all have to

749
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: do is call the game.

750
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: And I saw, actually, here's the thing, how's hold on?

751
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: What is cheated you?

752
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: I actually went to my daughters.

753
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 3: I've never talked about this publicly, but I went to

754
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: my daughter's. They had like a school lunch with the parents,

755
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: and so I went with my daughter to surprise her

756
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: for lunch. And it was this girl like me mugging me.

757
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: Her daughter was in my daughter's class. She was me

758
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: mugging me. He was a parent, a parent intentional.

759
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, if you see somebody you're

760
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: just eating, like the little turkey and the whole they have.

761
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: And she's like.

762
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, you're right, and she was

763
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: like aren't you. And I'm like, well you know everybody? Yeah,

764
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: like clearly, like you see my daughter. And I was like,

765
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: what's your name? And so she said her name was, Oh.

766
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: Nice to meet Kay.

767
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: You've been in my house. She's like, in the basement

768
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: working out with Ralph.

769
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting worked out. Yes, on my treadmill. That again,

770
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: not do that again. It's my treadmill. Did you let

771
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: me him borrow my shorts? That's crazy?

772
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: I was crazy, like I can't even go to my

773
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: neighborhood school without getting approached and where.

774
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: The problem comes in.

775
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: And I was telling Angela, don't embarrass me when it

776
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 2: becomes local. Can you go anywhere outside of our everyday basis.

777
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: I'm at my.

778
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: Children, my our children's school, and you got the parent

779
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: took them out. I was in your basement.

780
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: How do you feel, ma'am? Can I ask your question, ma'am?

781
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: How do you feel?

782
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: Telling Drew Sidora I was in your basement? That sounds crazy.

783
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: It's interesting.

784
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: Enjoy the basement, man, But then look as as you're

785
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: single now to write not legally but know so could

786
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: you have somebody over.

787
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 3: I would never, you know, it's just like class, too

788
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: many memories there. I feel like any of my own space,

789
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: my own energy, and you know, just create that environment

790
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: where it's comfortable. I just feel like it's a time

791
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: and place for things and it's just not for me

792
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: the right time or place.

793
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that, like I'm getting all of.

794
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 3: These strays coming at me and I'm like, that ain't

795
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: happening because i just don't feel comfortable.

796
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: That's just me.

797
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: Other people can do what they feel, but for me,

798
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's too much. I got three kids at

799
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: the house.

800
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: And that's another thing.

801
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: The kids are upstairs with you, with me, So do

802
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: they have times where.

803
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: It's the whole thing?

804
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 2: Are they downstairs with dad like that we can spend

805
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: time with.

806
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Are going.

807
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, No, that happens. Kids go downstairs because they

808
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 3: love their dad. And I will ever say that he's

809
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: not a good father. He loves his kids.

810
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: I said, relief, you know that that is a blessing.

811
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: So they'll go down there and they'll you know, talk

812
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: to him and play with him and do different things,

813
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: and they will come back up and be like, Mommy,

814
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: it's a lady down there. I'm sorry, and I'm like, okay,

815
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: was she nice?

816
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: All? Like everybody was like was she nice? Well? You know, so, you.

817
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: Guys, it's good you're not one of those because but

818
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: he said he's never cheated on you.

819
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I saw he said that. Did y'all believe when he

820
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: said that? Though?

821
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: You see he believed it was the question right, but

822
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: technic than you know how people could say anything, because

823
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: I do feel like, all right, bro, you know, just yes,

824
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: I did like.

825
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: Her receipts of otherwise, so what is his okay? I

826
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: showed him to Andy last reunion. Andy was like, oh,

827
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: these are deaf you know. I try to protect as

828
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: much as I can, but I mean, it is what

829
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: it is, and I'm like, just say it, you know,

830
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: just say what it is and be honest for one

831
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: about what it has been instead of trying to throw

832
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: out these narratives on me and play victim.

833
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't subscribe and I don't appreciate it.

834
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: Did you guys ever discuss what cheating is in your relationship?

835
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: Because no, I'm not trying to be funny because people

836
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: like what is she talking about? But cheating and two

837
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: different people look like different things.

838
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: Right.

839
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: For me, cheating is not going out, having a conversation,

840
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: texta or even hanging out with somebody. I've had friends.

841
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a hare stylist. That's what I do

842
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: on my normal day to day. Right, So I've had clients.

843
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: A client tell me that if he mayn didn't spend

844
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: money on the girl, and if he didn't have unprotected

845
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: sex with her, that that's not cheating. So there's different

846
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: But to her that wasn't cheating. So there's different levels

847
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: to cheating if you have the conversation of what cheating

848
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: looks right, you know, obviously you guys are married. Yeah,

849
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: it could be a lot of different ways that you're cheating.

850
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

851
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 3: I mean I have girlfriends who have, like legit, been

852
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 3: married and their husband has had like a baby outside

853
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: of the Maryora.

854
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean, but they forgiven, they have forgiven. But we forgave.

855
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they forgave, and I think the husband showed up.

856
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: You know, in my relationships and my friendships, they're like,

857
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: but he showed up and he worked extremely hard for

858
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: that forgiveness. So for them, that was their tolerance level.

859
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: I'm like girl me. But for me, it's like if

860
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: you ask for a girlfriend, yeah, it's like we're just happened.

861
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: That's pretty obvious. Like wait a minute, because the woman

862
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: we feel like.

863
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: Okay, we're beautiful, we're working hard, we're checking all these

864
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: boxes for the person we love, and all of a

865
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: sudden they're like, yeah, you ain't doing much.

866
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: Can I have a girlfriend?

867
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: And that was you Yeah, yeah, oh so bringing somebody

868
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: else in with you. He asked me that if you

869
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: guys could have a girlfriend. He asked if he that,

870
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: well he could, Yeah, how would you if he said

871
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: could we have a girlfriend with That changed the narrative

872
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: of what he was saying, because it's like, I still

873
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: want my wife, but this is something that I need.

874
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: You know what you're not.

875
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 4: I'd be like, well, talk a little deeper about this agreement.

876
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: I ain't no fun at homie came from friends, Honey.

877
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 3: I feel like if you're married, as long as y'all

878
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: have an understanding and agreement, I'm like that wife. That's like, listen,

879
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: I work, I travel, I understand. You know if you

880
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 3: have needs that I may not be able to meet

881
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: all the time. And I don't feel like it, and

882
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: I'm tired. I don't watch clothes, cook dinner, taking their kids,

883
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: and I'm brought home some a couple of checks, Like

884
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 3: you know, if you if I'm not checking every box,

885
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: it's a conversation. So I always say to my friends

886
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: who are married in relationships, like, as long as y'all

887
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: two are on the same page, it doesn't matter about

888
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: what anybody else thinks, anyone else's opinions. I just feel

889
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: like for us, it was just so many lies and

890
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: just me finding out things and going through the zone

891
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 3: and seeing things that was like have me up at

892
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 3: night crying where I'm like, yo, like, if you're faithful,

893
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: you're faithful, But if it's something else you want, like,

894
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 3: we need to have a conversation. So when it was

895
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: approached to me for him to want something else and

896
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: have a girlfriend, I didn't understand why. You know, it's

897
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: been all of these women and now you want a girlfriend.

898
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 3: And so I think that at the end of the day,

899
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: you guys have to be willing to have a conversation

900
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: and not just throw these things out here haphazardly. That

901
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 3: can be very devastating and heartbreaking. You have to show

902
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: up and be honest to your woman and your relationship

903
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 3: one hundred percent for y'all to have some level of understanding.

904
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 3: And I feel like for me, it just was never there.

905
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: It was just never that. It was like I said it,

906
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: But we're not going to be able to sit down

907
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: and have an adult conversation.

908
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: You understand how this would work? What does that look like?

909
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: Am I willing to accept this? Am I choosing this?

910
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: Because if I choose it, then I'm choosing it. If

911
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: I don't choose it, let me walk away.

912
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 3: And he always somehow positioned himself to appear to be

913
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: this doting prince, you know, night and shining armor, faithful

914
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: man saying I never cheated on her, which that is

915
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 3: a boldfaced lie. I know why he won't just be

916
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: like a game and then let me tell says because

917
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: as women we need to like whoa.

918
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: I thought, this is what this was, but it's not.

919
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: To let me go and process it. Let's talk about it,

920
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: and that takes time. And when you just take that

921
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: away from me, that opportunity away from me, I'm left

922
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 2: to figure it out by myself.

923
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: That's not marriage, you know.

924
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: So how can we create what's going to make us

925
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: both happy, and I feel like he just wasn't that

926
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: partner to allow us to be able to last forever,

927
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: because then as you saw, like it was this cousin

928
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: and he turned against me and was like teaming up

929
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 3: with my ops. Even this season he's filming with my ops.

930
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: It's just like public humiliation embarrassment at its best. It's like,

931
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 3: when is enough enough? A girl can nothing?

932
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: Even though you guys are going through your marriage obviously

933
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: take this oath in and all of that, I feel

934
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: you feel like, maybe where is the protection even though

935
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: we're not together, we still have children together, you teaming

936
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: up with ops and people who are possibly against me

937
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: in every way, and you know, and a lot of

938
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: relationships we hear that I never want to see you

939
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: do bad. I never want to see you fall on

940
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: your face because we have children and I want to

941
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: see you do well.

942
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: So it's like, why are you doing this to me?

943
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: Not what was me, but why are you.

944
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: Doing this to me considering the fact that we have

945
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: children and you're not protecting me in the marriage, outside

946
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: of the marriage, separated divorce, you as a man, it

947
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: is still your will to protect me.

948
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you haven't done that on the flip.

949
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. There's certain lines you don't cross. Thank you.

950
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't because I still want him to be great

951
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: for our kids.

952
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, I know you got to go because

953
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: you've been here a ton of press and look, before

954
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: we in, I do want to point out that we

955
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: got to talk about because I know Gigi's gonna address it,

956
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: but Ralph has been doing his own interviews and like

957
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: going places, and so I just want to say because

958
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: I know Gigi's gonna want to talk about it because

959
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: she felt bad that you thought that she you know

960
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: that she called you about your name. So I do

961
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: want to say she just like she just sent me

962
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: the link to I haven't had a chance to look

963
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: at it yet, but I just want to say it

964
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: because she's not in here. You know, she wanted you

965
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: to know she was like, I did not call her

966
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: a bitch. I was not trying to whatever. So I

967
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: just want to let you know that on the record

968
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: while you're sitting here. But we're gonna I'm gonna look

969
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: at it in it in real time, So this is

970
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: what I'll say. M h, watch it because I know

971
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: you do your work as a journalist I respect what

972
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: you do wholeheartedly. I've come and sat, you know, amongst you,

973
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: and we've had great conversation, great connection. I really feel

974
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: like you're discerning and you're professional, right, and you get it,

975
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: watch it and then have me back and we will

976
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: talk about it. Because my whole team has watched that interview,

977
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: and that was one of the few interviews that I watched,

978
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, so it was very I watched.

979
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: I watched up to a point that I couldn't watch

980
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: the whole thing though, Yeah, well I didn't need to.

981
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: She called me out my name, absolutely, you saw that

982
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: partly particularly, Okay, well I'm going to take a look

983
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: because I have not seen and she's like very adamant that,

984
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: but she should probably watch it.

985
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: How do you feel about.

986
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: Him doing interviews though in general, because some people will say, well,

987
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: he needs to be able to at least tell his

988
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: side he's on the show.

989
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I feel like people have seen his actions.

990
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything, as you just said that will

991
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: minimize or diminish who he is as a wife. I

992
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: definitely protected him for all of this time because I

993
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: felt like there are certain things in marriage that are

994
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: sacred and everything is not for everyone. So I did

995
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: my part as a wife for that. However, when you

996
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 3: start to speak on my mother, my father who passed away,

997
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: it's certain boundaries.

998
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: So now I'm going to talk.

999
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: Now, I'm going to talk and tell my truth and

1000
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: be transparent so that people know the truth, because what

1001
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: you're doing is damaging a career I built since I

1002
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: was eight years old, my father's legacy and my mother's

1003
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: legacy of sixty years of marriage.

1004
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow to happen.

1005
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: And to Gigi, you know, I just say, hey, you know,

1006
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: I respect black women and what they're doing, and I

1007
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: always support that, and I really hero that and cheer

1008
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: that on. But when we start to call women out

1009
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: of their name, when you've never sat before me or

1010
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: met me, when you start to advocate for someone who

1011
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: has publicly humiliated me and we have seen it is

1012
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: something I'm saying. You can go back and watch it.

1013
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: Do your due diligence as a journalist, which.

1014
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: I've seen you do. I'm gonna I'm gonna just say that.

1015
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: Leave that there necessarily advocating and not defending because we

1016
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 2: have to. And that's why if being a misunderstanding and

1017
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: you know, obviously you are around women all the time,

1018
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: whether you're filming or just in general out in the public,

1019
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: and people look to you. Are you willing to at

1020
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: some point say, hey, we need to have a conversation

1021
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: because that was right and this is how I felt,

1022
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: and you know, at some point out.

1023
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: Of respect for you here like oh listen, no.

1024
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: No, no, because like, well, I want to say she

1025
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: was very like she wasn't like oh she was like,

1026
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: oh damn, I didn't do that.

1027
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't comfortable al go, yeah, same energy, honey, I

1028
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 1: saw you watch it? Because I don't.

1029
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: I don't at then the day people can say, oh,

1030
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: she's an actress, I'm from Chicago, I'm a real girl

1031
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: that goes out the window.

1032
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm a woman, I'm a mother, And as black women.

1033
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: We have to start communicating and doing what's right to

1034
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 3: protect our black women. And I will never sit before

1035
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: anyone and ever purposefully sit on a platform because we

1036
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: have a big platform and we have a responsibility. I'm

1037
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: never going to damage anyone and.

1038
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: Their career, their personality, their brand, or anything that they're

1039
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: trying to promote and do in this world. Like I

1040
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: feel like we have to support each other and be

1041
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 2: neutral and give people constructive criticism and not bash people

1042
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: and calling people out of their name is disrespectful that

1043
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: I don't stand for disrespect and I don't stand for

1044
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 2: people to do low vibrational things.

1045
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: And I feel like I watched the interview. I really

1046
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: gave it a try.

1047
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: Anybody I see, I'm like, I don't know her personally,

1048
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: I don't know of her, but I did watch it,

1049
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 2: and at a certain point I turned it off because

1050
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: I just felt like it was it was very low vibrational,

1051
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: and it was very disrespectful and it was disheartening.

1052
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: Can I say that you are that bitch though?

1053
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: Really, like I mean, I I appreciate that, and I

1054
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: say all positive way to you.

1055
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: I uplift you.

1056
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: I appreciate you because I just feel like, you know,

1057
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: you do something that's very rare, and I always uplift you.

1058
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: And I just feel like.

1059
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: She does and actually has such positive things to say,

1060
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: even off camera. It makes me feel good because sometimes

1061
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: I feel like as women, we don't get certain types

1062
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: of credit and not that we do things because we

1063
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: want to get credit for X, Y and Z. But

1064
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: it's nice acknowledge what it is that you're doing and

1065
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: honestly like, you bring a lot to that show and

1066
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: to that platform, and I'm rooting for you, you know so,

1067
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: And I'm glad that you're moving on past your situation

1068
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 2: and I cannot wait till you find happiness.

1069
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: Because you will.

1070
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: I know, I'm manifesting it. So I received that yes,

1071
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 3: And whenever you call me, I'm always here, like I'm

1072
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: always willing to come have a conversation and clarify, clear

1073
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 3: anything and come in peace.

1074
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you so much, and make sure

1075
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: you listen to the album because it's definitely a bot

1076
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: like yeah, and I'm going on.

1077
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: Tour, guys, so I need y'all to like listen. I'm

1078
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 3: going on a seven city tour. The cities will be announced.

1079
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: I can't say it now, that's.

1080
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: Going to be lit definitely.

1081
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: I'm doing Chicago Pride, holding them down for my city.

1082
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: But I want to see y'all. Okay, I'm down, you're not.

1083
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: I kind of want to go to Chicago because I'm

1084
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: on in Chicago.

1085
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: I yes, July fifth, I'm okay, oh fourth of July,

1086
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: Chicago Pride, please show up, show out and when my

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Speaker 2: tours announced, like I would love to see all there,

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Speaker 2: but I'm so proud of this body of work. So

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Speaker 2: just if you haven't downloaded or strain it, please do.

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Speaker 2: I did it to me.

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Speaker 1: It's everywhere because all right, well, thank you, we appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank y'all for having me. Congratulations, thank you. I love y'all. Yes,