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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday ra

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Speaker 2: Tords Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live. Yes, we are

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Speaker 2: live here eleven pm Eastern from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 3: Take you up till two am Eastern.

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Speaker 2: And goodness, gracious, what a night of basketball, What a

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Speaker 2: day of basketball, What a weekend of basketball? As the

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Speaker 2: Sagre just told you, two games still going on. The

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Speaker 2: Vandy Nebraska game is at the under four time out,

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Speaker 2: Vanderbilt up by three.

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Speaker 3: That game is in Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: The winner will face the winner of tomorrow's Florida Iowa

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Speaker 2: game next weekend in Houston and in Portland. Arkansas up

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Speaker 2: fifty two to fifty right at the under sixteen time out,

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Speaker 2: Trevin Brazil, Arkansas star fourward just took a nasty spill,

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Speaker 2: kind of got caught up and kind of like Nead

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Speaker 2: in the head. It's important to note Arkansas is essentially

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Speaker 2: down to six players. Two of their key rotation players

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Speaker 2: are out of this game with injury, so arkansaw up

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Speaker 2: to a key player just went down. But it is

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Speaker 2: a busy night. It is a fun time of year,

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Speaker 2: and Jason Martin is joining me from Nashville.

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Speaker 3: J Mart, what's going on, my man?

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Speaker 4: Busy day. Busy day. Obviously you just laid it out

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Speaker 4: and we'll be discussing it over the next three hours.

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Speaker 4: My youngest daughter turned to.

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Speaker 3: Today Happy Birthday.

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Speaker 4: This was the one where like she sort of got it,

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Speaker 4: like not fully. So we didn't have a big party.

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Speaker 4: We just had a few family members over. But she's

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Speaker 4: sang Happy Birthday, which she's done for some other kids

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Speaker 4: in her in her little class that she's in, and

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Speaker 4: she figured out that people were singing it to her

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Speaker 4: and she started laughing, and then she sang it to

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Speaker 4: herself afterwards, and that was a let's just say, the

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Speaker 4: artball couldn't compete with any of that.

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Speaker 2: So when I was nearly in tears when Yukon was

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Speaker 2: about to lose to Firm and lifelast night, those aren't

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Speaker 2: the same kind of tears that you had this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: when your little daughter saying Happy Birthday to yourself.

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Speaker 4: No, I think that one. And look, I had three

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Speaker 4: games I think in the multiview going simultaneously in a

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Speaker 4: room away. I mean, I still have a job to do,

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Speaker 4: but kind of had a little bit of a split

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Speaker 4: attention there for a bit of time. Your your daughter

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Speaker 4: only turns two once, and so you don't want to

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Speaker 4: miss that.

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Speaker 2: No, we're we you know, listen, we all take what

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Speaker 2: we do very seriously, and and we all love what

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Speaker 2: we do, and when we come on air, we take

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Speaker 2: that very seriously. But there is time for family as well.

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Speaker 2: So happy birthday to your second daughter. I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: took some time away from sports and we could still recap.

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Speaker 2: And I know you saw enough to talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Even I saw, I mean, I saw almost all of it.

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Speaker 4: I just maybe wasn't like quite as focused a couple

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Speaker 4: moments during the course of the day, but I certainly

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Speaker 4: saw everything.

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Speaker 2: You weren't breaking down Illinois drop coverage on VC.

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Speaker 3: You earlier in the day.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's get into it. There are a

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Speaker 2: couple noteworthy results. The first one I want to just

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Speaker 2: you know, I'll just mention this really quick. J Mart

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Speaker 2: is that. By the way, we do have an update.

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Speaker 2: Curtis Wilkerson, who covers Arkansas, says Trevin Brazil headed into

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Speaker 2: He did get up and walk off on his own power,

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Speaker 2: guy who I believe had twenty two points in the

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Speaker 2: in round one, he had nineteen points. Just headed back

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Speaker 2: to the locker room. We will monitor that as things go. Actually,

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Speaker 2: the TV feed just came back and he is in

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Speaker 2: the kind of runway, the little hallway there, kind of

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Speaker 3: So we'll keep you posted there.

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Speaker 2: But a couple results from the day, you know, Jay

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Speaker 2: start with Duke eighty one, TCU fifty eight. Now, on

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Speaker 2: the surface, that's just a blowout. Duke's number one seed.

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Speaker 3: Who cares? Why are you guys even talking about it?

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Speaker 2: It was thirty eight, thirty four at the half, and

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Speaker 2: early in the second half TCU had the lead before

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Speaker 2: they pulled away. And I do think it is worth noting,

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Speaker 2: By the way, high Point has tied things up with Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to do a play by play, but

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Speaker 3: Has a lead.

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Speaker 2: I just bring it up with Duke. They trailed against Sienna, trailed,

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Speaker 2: do pull away. Did the second half give you enough

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Speaker 2: put it on what you expected, but they were the

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Speaker 2: they were the ACC tournament champs. Did the second half

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Speaker 3: Thought they were?

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Speaker 2: Or are you a little bit worried big picture by

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Speaker 2: three pretty lackluster haves from Duke to start the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that there's probably some middle

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Speaker 4: an extra gear and occasionally they've had to show that

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Speaker 4: that's always going to serve them, Like that extra gear

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Speaker 4: going to be this inconsistent, especially early in games, these

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Speaker 4: One thing that I found really interesting, just something you

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Speaker 4: don't hear all that often during a halftime interview. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure which player it was, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm about to say that it caught me off guard.

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Speaker 4: I was in the other room and I had the

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Speaker 4: because his halftime and I heard them. It heard him

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Speaker 4: basically say we thought this was gonna be a cakewalk.

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Speaker 3: It's an exact direct quote, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like and and it was just like, whoa, No

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Speaker 4: I imagine a lot of one seeds have that same mentality.

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Speaker 4: But he said, we're actually gonna have to play in

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Speaker 4: stunned by that, Aaron, Like, It's just like, I'm surprised

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Speaker 4: But again they got on track and then they finally

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Speaker 4: pulled away against TCU. That game was awfully close, and

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Speaker 4: I think you sent me a text and said Boozer

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Speaker 4: was starting to get some pretty good whistles. And they

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Speaker 4: took that thing and ran with it and just took

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Speaker 4: that thing home. But they are by far the most

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Speaker 4: the least impressive one that we have seen thus far.

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Speaker 4: I mean no question about that. They looked lowd and

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Speaker 4: the biggest problem for them is if they get Saint John's.

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Speaker 4: That's like that. That is the one that I had

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Speaker 4: a hard time picking in my own bracket prior to

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Speaker 4: the tournament because I really wanted to go with Saint

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Speaker 4: John's because especially right now, I feel like they're playing

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Speaker 4: their best basketball. They're consistent, they're healthy, and they're super physical,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not sure that the Duke is ready for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is worth noting, by the way, speaking of

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Speaker 2: the physicality, starting centaer Patrick Gongba, who missed the opener,

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Speaker 2: did play thirteen minutes today. Four points four rebounds, four

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Speaker 2: assists in four turnovers, so the quadruple, you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I agree with everything you said.

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Speaker 2: Is one, they have been the least impressive Michigan who

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Speaker 4: Oh, Saint Louis played with them, played, played, they did,

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Speaker 4: played Michigan for a half. They basically they played about

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Speaker 2: That was another one. It was this is now the

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Speaker 2: Saint Louis Michigan game. It was a nine point game

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Speaker 2: at halftime. But really quick, let me pull up the

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Speaker 2: second half, let's see, Saint Louis cut it to five

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Speaker 2: Saint Louis did play with them tough. Michigan polls away.

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Speaker 2: Duke does the same, I would. I would agree with

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Speaker 2: you though that in general, Duke has been the least

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Speaker 2: you know it's gonna be interesting because they listen, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna face a good team, either Saint John's or Kansas.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, I do think that Saint

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Speaker 2: their starting five man is clearly not one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: He looked a little bit, you know, slow is not

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Speaker 2: the right word, but maybe out of shape a little bit.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't played actually, dating back to the North Carolina

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Speaker 2: play in the a SEC tournament, did not play in

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Speaker 2: the opener. He's been out for about ten days or so.

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Speaker 2: But Duke does get the win. They will face the

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Speaker 2: winner of tomorrow's Arkansas Kansas game. By the way, I

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Speaker 2: and preview some of the games on Sunday because there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of interesting ones. Kansas, Saint John's, Kentucky, Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: Iowa State's best player is out, so we will continue

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Speaker 2: to do that. By the way, keeping you updated on

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Speaker 2: scores here two very interesting developments. Vanderbilt up two seventy

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Speaker 2: Nebraska has the ball. Will keep you updated, and and

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Speaker 2: in Portland the late one. You know, John Caliperry after

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Speaker 2: us an early time slot. This team loves playing early games.

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Speaker 2: They gave him the last tip off today and right

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Speaker 2: now Arkansas trails high point fifty six fifty two. John

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Speaker 2: Caliperry did have to call a time out to keep

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Speaker 2: you updated on the late one Vandy and Nebraska. Nebraska

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Speaker 2: did just tie things up at seventy two. There are

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Speaker 2: monitoring two games still here, and it looks like the

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Speaker 2: Nebraska Vandy game. We're gonna get some sort of development

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Speaker 2: here in the coming seconds because we are under ten

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Speaker 2: seconds Vanderbilt. We are not doing play by play if

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Speaker 2: the FCC is listening, but Vandy has missed a shot.

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Speaker 3: Nebraska has the ball.

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Speaker 2: Back drive to the lane, and Nebraska has taken the

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Speaker 2: You could see the entire bench just collapse. Unbelievable. This

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they've been They are proving their legitimacy.

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Speaker 2: Well I'll tell you who was not supposed to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we we have done the last few weeks. The

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Speaker 2: want a thriller against Vandy. You know, to your point,

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Speaker 2: We will have to see if Cinderella is still alive

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Speaker 2: one game going on plenty in the Association and much

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Speaker 2: more so, let's get it over to the news desk.

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Speaker 2: Steve Desagar, what is trending?

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Speaker 5: Hello, gentlemen. You gotta feel bad for Vandy and Tyler

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Speaker 5: Tanner who had twenty seven points in defeat Nebraska with

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Speaker 5: a great, essentially home crowd at Oklahoma City tonight. Nebraska

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Speaker 5: eliminated Vanderbilt in the second round of the NCAA Tournament

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Speaker 5: seventy four to seventy two. Vandy shot at the buzzer

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Speaker 5: from back court, went in and out from Tyler Tanner

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Speaker 5: who had those twenty seven points. And someone has tweeted,

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Speaker 5: you know this happened during the season at Missouri, and

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Speaker 5: sure enough I saw the video in and out from

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Speaker 5: backcourt at the end of a game Texas eliminated the

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Speaker 5: three seed in the West, Gonzaga seventy four sixty eight,

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Speaker 5: so the Longhorns went three to oh this week and

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Speaker 5: in that region right now. Game in Portland, Arkansaw up

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Speaker 5: seventy three seventy two against twelve seed High Point with

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Speaker 5: about six minutes to go. I oia A three seed advanced.

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Speaker 5: It was tied late first half with VCU, but beat

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Speaker 5: him seventy six fifty five wins from Michigan and Michigan

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Speaker 5: state number one. Duke was tied with TCU with fourteen

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Speaker 5: minutes to go, but Duke won at eighty one fifty

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Speaker 5: eight and two seed in the South, Houston advanced to

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Speaker 5: play in Houston next week. In the Sweet sixteen, Cougars

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Speaker 5: ripped Texas A and M eighty eight to fifty seven.

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Speaker 5: The nit second round started with Dayton's win at UNC Wilmington,

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Speaker 5: and there were first round women's NCAA games. Easy wins

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Speaker 5: is expected for Yukon and South Carolina USC and overtime

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Speaker 5: Beclemson in South Carolina. Virginia in overtime defeated Georgia, and

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Speaker 5: one seed UCLA is finally pulling away at home against

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Speaker 5: cal Baptists, leading late third, seventy to thirty eight to

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Speaker 5: the NBA. The Lakers won their ninth straight game, winning

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Speaker 5: at Orlando on a last second three pointer from Lukenard

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Speaker 5: one five one oh four. Houston at home won on

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Speaker 5: a last that can tip in by a men Thompson

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Speaker 5: beat Miami won twenty three, one twenty two Thompson twenty

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Speaker 5: four points, eighteen rebounds. Oklahoma City got forty points from

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Speaker 5: Shay Gilgis Alexander and a win at Washington one thirty two,

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Speaker 5: one eleven. OKC has won eleven in a row. The

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Speaker 5: Washington Wizards have lost fifteen straight. San Antonio sent Indiana

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Speaker 5: to a sixteenth straight loss one thirty four to one,

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Speaker 5: nineteen wins for Charlotte, Atlanta and Cleveland, and the Clippers

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Speaker 5: in overtime. Won at Dallas one thirty eight, one thirty

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Speaker 5: one Darius Garland forty one points. Kawhi Leonard with thirty

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Speaker 5: four NHL wins from Montreal and Boston. Minnesota in overtime,

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Speaker 5: defeated Dallas two to one. In Major League Soccer, Dallas

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Speaker 5: four to three over Houston Cubs. Outfielder Say Suzuki will

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Speaker 5: not be ready for opening Day next week due to

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Speaker 5: a Spring pcl Justin Algarre won the O'Reilly Race and

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Speaker 5: NASCARZ on FS one Sunday from Darlington three pm Eastern Time,

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Speaker 5: Tyler Reddick earned the poll Arkansas now leading eighty to

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Speaker 5: seventy four over high Point with five minutes to go,

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Speaker 5: final game of the night in March, Madness, back to you.

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Speaker 2: You must be ahead, to Sager, I got seventy eight

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Speaker 2: seventy four here with five or two left, Okay to

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Speaker 2: Saga is living in the future with flying cars, and hey,

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Speaker 2: there's the fifth Tanning.

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 4: I said? All right, they're bif Tannon all right.

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Speaker 5: So Spa, I gotta get that all Madack exactly.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Well, Disager, you let us know when the game goes final,

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Speaker 2: since you clearly are living in the future. If you

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Speaker 2: have any Powerball winners, or you know, if there's a

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Speaker 2: bet for me to make on the National Championship, you

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Speaker 2: let me know as well. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: we are broadcasting live, Yes, we are live, eleven thirty

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Speaker 2: three Eastern Time from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Arkansas's

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Speaker 2: Disager just told you up by six now seven with

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Speaker 2: five minutes to go. Plenty of basketball still left, so

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Speaker 2: we'll keep you updated on that. Do J Mart want

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Speaker 2: to switch gears to what I think is actually a

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Speaker 2: develop I don't think it is a developing story out

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Speaker 2: of Chapel Hill. I think the biggest story high point

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Speaker 2: was certainly maybe the it was certainly the biggest upset,

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Speaker 2: But I think the biggest story was North Carolina losing

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Speaker 2: to VCU on Thursday. And it wasn't just the loss

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Speaker 2: to VCU. It was the exact circumstances in which it happened.

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Speaker 2: North Carolina blew a nineteen point second half lead, they

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Speaker 2: lost in overtime, and I think by now, anybody who

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Speaker 2: cares about this stuff, and if you're listening to this

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Speaker 2: show on this night, we suspect that you do. You

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Speaker 2: know how bad it was. North Carolina couldn't inbound the ball.

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Speaker 2: They ran a terrible play at the end of regulation

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Speaker 2: that would have gotten him to win. I just bring

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Speaker 2: it up because when the game went final, no. North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Of course, by the way I should mention, had a

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Speaker 2: twenty four win regular season and so it felt like

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Speaker 2: coming into the tournament, Hubert Davis, this was kind of

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Speaker 2: a make or break year that everything would be fine.

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Speaker 2: Then they lost in the manner that they did. Then

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Speaker 2: they blew a nineteen point second half lead and with it,

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a matter of if not,

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Speaker 2: when Hubert Davis has actually fired and we have a

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Speaker 2: coaching search at North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: This is from me, when not if?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I know what I think it is.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's an if at all. I think

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Speaker 4: he's out.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and so I'll be quick here because I butchered

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Speaker 2: that not analogy.

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Speaker 3: But by the way, this Arkansas game is crazy.

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Speaker 4: This is a great game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna spoil it a little bit for you here, Jmark,

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Speaker 2: because they're gonna go to the under four time out.

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Speaker 3: Arkansas is up eighty three to eighty.

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Speaker 4: So I think I might have caught up. Like I

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Speaker 4: I'm watching on a streaming service. So I backed off

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Speaker 4: it because it froze on me and restarted it. So

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Speaker 4: now I actually think I'm up to date.

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Speaker 5: Well, high Point Closer.

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Speaker 2: Has just made a basket with the and one there

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Speaker 2: going to the foul line. Arkansas is up eighty three

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Speaker 2: to eighty. Feels like I don't know, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to get into it. But anyway, let's get back to

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Speaker 2: North Carolina because it feels like a of now. Now

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Speaker 2: I'm in my own head, it feels like a matter

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Speaker 2: of when not if. There is a report on ESPN

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Speaker 2: dot com quote sources UNC Davis discussing future after tournament loss.

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Speaker 2: You don't discuss the future if you have a future.

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Speaker 2: I think again, North Carolina will be looking for a

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Speaker 2: new head coach here very soon.

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Speaker 4: Look, I've said this many times. You know this. I

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Speaker 4: grew up in ACC Territory, born in Virginia, grew up

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Speaker 4: in North Carolina. Almost went to North Carolina to college.

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Speaker 4: Instead went to NC State. But North Carolina basketball can't

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Speaker 4: be irrelevant, it can't be bad, it can't be mediocre.

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Speaker 4: It just makes no sense. Like it's just to people

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Speaker 4: in that area and especially those of us that spend

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Speaker 4: a lot of time in that area like that, that

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Speaker 4: is an institution. And it's made worse by the fact

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Speaker 4: that around the same time Duke found a new head

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Speaker 4: coach and they've won three or four ACC championships and

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Speaker 4: here they are a number one seed again going to

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Speaker 4: the sweet sixteen. That does not help. That doesn't help them,

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Speaker 4: That doesn't help the situation at all, because that rivalry

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Speaker 4: is just as nasty as you think it is in

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Speaker 4: terms of how those teams feel about each other. But

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Speaker 4: North Carolina long term alumni, North Carolina fans that you

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Speaker 4: know wear that Carolina blue all the time. Those people,

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Speaker 4: they can't understand this. They and they're not going to

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Speaker 4: be able to tolerate this. Like Hubert Davis had a

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Speaker 4: lot of equity just built up from being a great

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Speaker 4: player at UNC, not to mention, just from every indication,

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Speaker 4: just an awesome dude, like a great guy. And he

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Speaker 4: was coming off of his TV gig on ESPN where

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Speaker 4: he's part of the game day crew and all that

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Speaker 4: kind of stuff. So like there was a feel good

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Speaker 4: moment there giving him the job. You wanted to see

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Speaker 4: how it went. And then that first season he ends

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Speaker 4: up going to the National title game kind of out

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Speaker 4: of nowhere. But they have not been good pretty much

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Speaker 4: the whole time he's been there, not to the level

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Speaker 4: of what North Carolina is supposed to be. Like whatever

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Speaker 4: comparison it is that you want to make, the one

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Speaker 4: that I said to you yesterday in a text, when

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Speaker 4: I was saying the same thing you were, that I

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Speaker 4: felt like Hubert had coached his last game after that comeback,

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Speaker 4: I said, this feels like to me, kind of like

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Speaker 4: Michigan before Jim Harbaugh got there, where it was just

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Speaker 4: it was rudderless. It didn't feel like it was elite.

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Speaker 4: And that's just not a thing Michigan can tolerate in football,

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Speaker 4: and it's certainly not a thing that North Carolina can

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Speaker 4: tolerate in basketball. True royalty, you know, just about unlike

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Speaker 4: anywhere else. And they have fallen into a place of

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Speaker 4: mediocrity that's just not it's just not okay. And so

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Speaker 4: I again, when you see sources, we're going to talk

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Speaker 4: about your future. If you have a future, like you said,

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Speaker 4: you don't talk about it. But the fact that they

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Speaker 4: put it out there is almost like, hey, fans, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna get this done. Just wait it out. We're not

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Speaker 4: gonna do it right this second, because it's not really

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Speaker 4: the classiest move right now on the first weekend of

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Speaker 4: the NCAA tournament to even steal the headlines or anything else.

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Speaker 4: And maybe Hubert will get an opportunity to resign again.

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Speaker 4: They may not want to. You know, he can leave

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Speaker 4: with dignity on his own if he's just you know what,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna step down. I think it's probably time for

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Speaker 4: a new direction for the program. And you know, he'll

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Speaker 4: have other opportunities, whether they're coaching or not, or television

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Speaker 4: or whatever like that. I guess it's yet to be seen,

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Speaker 4: but I do not think that he will coach another

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Speaker 4: game for North Carolina. They care way too much about

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Speaker 4: hoops down there, and they're just not very good.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we have a thriller in Portland, Arkansas

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Speaker 2: and high Point ted at eighty three a piece.

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Speaker 3: We are at the three minute mark.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, j Martin's what we'll do, well, maybe

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Speaker 2: break here early, we'll come back. We'll continue the high

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Speaker 2: Point conversation and we will talk about Arkansas high Point A.

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Speaker 2: Darius Acuff Bucket has just an Arkansas.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I already know.

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Speaker 2: Arkansas a two point lead with two forty two to

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Speaker 2: go this game. Folks, listen, you need to be locked

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Speaker 2: in here on Fox Sports Radio. You talk about a

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Speaker 2: thriller in Portland right now, Arkansas eighty five, eighty three,

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Speaker 2: will come back, we'll discuss this, continue the UNC conversation,

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Speaker 2: Aer Tors, Jason Martin, Fox, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Aer Torris, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. We have a thriller in Portland.

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Speaker 2: It is ninety to eighty five. Arkansas leads with forty

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Speaker 2: five seconds to go. High Point has fouled Malik Ewen,

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Speaker 2: Arkansas starting center a personal seven zero Darius a cuff

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Speaker 2: run gave Arkansas the seven point lead. It has been

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Speaker 2: cut to five. Arkansas is headed to the foul.

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Speaker 3: Line of a game.

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Speaker 2: Jmart thriller of a game. I will say this so

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, it's not about me and my brackets, whatever.

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Speaker 2: But when I saw the way high Point played on Thursday,

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00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: knowing that Arkansas was shorthanded, isn't that frankly, you know,

654
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: let's put it this way. You know, defense isn't necessarily

655
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: their strong suit. Let me put it that way. I said,

656
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: you know, I really thought high Point had a chance.

657
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: This game is far from over. Arkansas up ninety one

658
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: p eighty five, forty four seconds left. But in college basketball, Jmart,

659
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: you know they extend these games. Now, a seven point

660
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: lead for Arkansas with forty four seconds to go, we will.

661
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: See if they can hold on.

662
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: So North Carolina, Yeah, you laid it out your You

663
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: spent a lot of your life in the triangle, So

664
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna defer to you on a lot of that.

665
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Speaker 3: I thought you had a lot of great points.

666
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: I think one that is probably a little bit underrated

667
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: is not just that Duke is Duke. Duke is actually

668
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: in the middle of a run unlike anything we've seen

669
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: in like twenty five years. Like they have not had

670
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: two back to back seasons like this in quite some time.

671
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I believe this was statistically

672
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: their best regular season since nineteen ninety nine, where they

673
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: famously made the National Championship Game against Yukon. But I

674
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: bring it up because I think that's part of it.

675
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: And for people who maybe don't follow college basketball, you

676
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: sit there and you look and you say, well, North

677
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: Carolina won twenty four games this year, and maybe even

678
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: know that their best player got hurt. I think there

679
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 2: are a couple of things. One, this is year five

680
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: for Hubert Davis. It is a situation where it's been

681
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: so up and down. He has that great late run

682
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: in year one to get to the National Championship Game,

683
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: but they weren't great during the regular season. I think

684
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: people forget that they actually, you know, they were like

685
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: an eight seed in that tournament, so they have that great.

686
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: Remember the game they had? What was the game? Was

687
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 4: it Baylor? Was it Baylor in North Carolina that played

688
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 4: that year where it went to like double overtime or whatever,

689
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 4: and it was still the first weekend of the tournament.

690
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: It might have been the round of thirty two. I'd

691
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: have to go back and look at it for sure,

692
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 4: but I want to say that they barely even got wow.

693
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: In the first great call round of thirty two to

694
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two NCAA Tournament, they beat Baylor ninety three

695
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: to eighty six in overtime.

696
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 4: Overtime.

697
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: Okay, so that was where, you know, and by the way,

698
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: they barely survived UCLA and the Sweet sixteen. And listen,

699
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: it's not to the point is not a great first

700
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: season does make the national championship. Year two, they return

701
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: everybody from that championship team. Start the year preseason number

702
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: one missed the NCAA tournament. Year three was the one

703
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: really good year start to finish. They win the acc

704
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: regular season and but they also lost in the Sweet

705
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: sixteen that year as well, And so.

706
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Speaker 3: I just bring it up because I could go on

707
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: and on last year.

708
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: Obviously a lot of people would probably remember that they

709
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: were the last team into the NCAA tournament. So you're

710
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: talking about one miss tournament one year where transparently they

711
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: probably should have missed the NCAA tournament, if we're being

712
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: perfectly honest. And so I just bring it up because

713
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: twenty four and nine this year isn't just twenty four wins.

714
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: It's the context of everything that has happened outside of

715
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: this past season, and so you factor all that in.

716
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing too, jmart In this

717
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: NIL world, it was well known that they spent a

718
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: crap ton of money on this roster, and I think

719
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: what's just so interesting is, you know, you talk about

720
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: these meetings that are supposedly going on. Is this is

721
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: the thing that always not gets me, But I think

722
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: is the interesting conversation in the NIL era is you

723
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: were just given a bunch of money to put a

724
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: roster together. You still lost in the opening round of

725
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. And again I understand your best player

726
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: was hurt, but you also blew a nineteen point second

727
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: half lead, and I don't know, like this is where

728
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: if you're trying to defend Hubert Davis, what are you

729
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: telling your administration that things are going to be so

730
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: much better than this year because you got everything you needed. Yes,

731
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: you had one key injury, but it doesn't change the

732
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: fact as high Point hits essentially a half court shot

733
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: with under ten seconds to go. We'll get back to

734
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: UNC in a minute. But Arkansas up now ninety two

735
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: to eighty eight. They were up sad, they were up seven. Yeah,

736
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: and high Point hits a shot from the logo to

737
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: make it a four point game with ten seconds to go.

738
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: We will see if Arkansas can hold on. Darius Acuff

739
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: is going to the fall line. But yeah, that's the

740
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: argument for North Carolina. You can like it, you cannot

741
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: like it. I'm just trying to And by the way,

742
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: the kid who committed the foul to send Darius a

743
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: Cuff to the foul line is the guy who has

744
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: thirty plus points in this game.

745
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: He's been insane.

746
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: He has been insane. I actually will get back to

747
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: Carolina second. I want to look it up so he

748
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: has let me see here. This is doing live radio.

749
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: So Rob Martin thirty points eleven of twenty three from

750
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: the field, Arkansas makes both free throws. They are up

751
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: six with eight seconds to go. Any other thoughts on

752
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: UNC were just waiting for this again.

753
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 4: I don't think that this is like treading new ground,

754
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 4: but it's hard to fully describe. Yes, I'm how North

755
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: Carolina fans and how North Carolina alumni feel about that program,

756
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 4: and it's hard to even compare it to anything else

757
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 4: in a different sport. I mean, Royalty is certainly there,

758
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 4: and there's a few other basketball schools that you can

759
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: put there, but I'm thinking to North Carolina basketball, and

760
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of like Oklahoma football, or that's a example,

761
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 4: because Brent Venaga Oklahoma is a good Yeah.

762
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brett Vnables has been good, but it was like

763
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: he hasn't been Oklahoma good, and this was the year,

764
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: like we're gonna give you everything. Go get the quarterback

765
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: you want, go get the offensive coordinator you want, but

766
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: you gotta win. And to Brent Vnable's credit, he did

767
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: keep going.

768
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: J Martin, Yeah, well, I mean that's really it. Like

769
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 4: if you took what Brent Vnibles has done and they

770
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 4: haven't made the College Football Playoff and they've kind of

771
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: been outside the top twenty where they've just been good

772
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: enough to be interesting but not good enough to be threatening.

773
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: I think that's kind of what it is, and it's

774
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 4: just I also just think, man, North Carolina shouldn't be

775
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 4: your first coaching job, so just shouldn't be. There's got

776
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: to be some kind of a stepping stone way to

777
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 4: bring in somebody with experience, and North Carolina has always

778
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 4: leaned heavy on their own guys. I think it's gonna

779
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 4: be time to stop doing that, and I hope for

780
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 4: their sake that they're gonna make a different move outside

781
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: of the program going forward.

782
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: I yes, they are gonna have no choice but to.

783
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you don't fire Hubert Davis to

784
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 2: promote his assistant. And by the way, Jamartin, I'll give

785
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: you one other little fun fact that you'll love. Part

786
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: of the reason that there is so much internal stuff

787
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: and they haven't just fired them, it's because they we

788
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: are committing so much money to a seventy plus year

789
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: old football coach that clearly does not know what he's doing,

790
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: so that does not help the matter. I don't think

791
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: people realize Belichick's making like over ten million a year

792
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: for UNC football. So situations evolving at UNC. Will keep

793
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 2: you updated there, will keep you updated on the tournament.

794
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 2: One game is final, Day is final. What's next on Saturday?

795
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: Plus NFL Draft stuff. Fox Spots Radio.

796
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour two tours of Martin Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: We are broadcasting live.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we are live here at midnight Eastern in the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. Aeron tours here in Los Angeles.

801
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: Jason Martin in Nashville, and boy, oh boy, oh boy,

802
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Speaker 2: what a day of basketball. We have full wall to

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00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: wall coverage basically from now to the end of the show.

804
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: Mark Medino. We will join us in about twenty minutes

805
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: just to do a little bit of NBA, but a

806
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: lot of college basketball. All eight games are final today,

807
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: the last one which just went final. It was a

808
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: great game, just an awesome game. Really, the last two

809
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: were incredible because I'm seeing now the Tyler Tanner three

810
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: point shot at the buzzer. For those of you who

811
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: missed it, to Seger just gave you details. A Tyler

812
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: Tanner missed three pointer at the buzzer from way past

813
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: half court rolls out. Nebraska advances to its first Sweet

814
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: sixteen that was the second to last final, and then

815
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: Arkansas by the skin of their teeth survives the high

816
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: Point Panthers ninety four to eighty eight. High Point was

817
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: the highest the lowest, depending on how you look at seeding,

818
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: team remaining in the field. I gotta say, j Mark

819
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: before we switch gears to talk about some other stuff.

820
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: Unbelievable game, unbelievable finish. Rob Martin for high Point with

821
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: thirty points in this game, but Darius a once.

822
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: Again he's a beast.

823
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: Thirty six points, eleven of twenty two from the field,

824
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: three of six from three, eleven of thirteen from the

825
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: free throw line, six assists, two turnovers. I don't take

826
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Speaker 2: this where you want, J Martin. I do have a

827
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: couple follow ups, but that like it wasn't the best finish.

828
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. I think the high Point.

829
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Speaker 2: The two high Point games were probably the two most

830
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: entertaining games of the tournament, along with the Vandy Nebraska game.

831
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: I'll say this, you know, high Point, I don't you know,

832
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: don't know what else there is to say. I mean,

833
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 2: you talk about and I'll say this to J Martin.

834
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: I know I'm just all over the place and not

835
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: really giving you anything to work with here. But I

836
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: think high Point really not only did they did, they

837
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: like win people over. I think there's a bigger conversation

838
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: that Flynn Claiman their coach along with Travis Steele, the

839
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: coach at Miami of Ohio, that they have brought to

840
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: the forefront of, like, you know what, guys, maybe we

841
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: need to reevaluate how this scheduling stuff is done. High

842
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: Point was thirty and four would not have made the

843
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: tournament if they did not win the automatic bid out

844
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: of their league. They beat Wisconsin, they played Arkansas right

845
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: down to the wire, and I think, you know, I

846
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: loved how he used that platform on Thursday to say, like, guys,

847
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: we've been this good all along. None of you guys

848
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: would schedule us. It's essentially what Travis Steele said after

849
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: the SMU went on Wednesday night in the playing round.

850
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you have anything on high Point.

851
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: We could kind of switch gears to some other stuff

852
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: and talk a little bit of Arkansas and John kel Perry,

853
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: but I thought it was important for him to use

854
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 2: that platform to not just celebrate the win, but to say, hey, like, guys,

855
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 2: we've been this good, go ahead and schedule us, don't

856
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: be afraid.

857
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, look, I mean we've had a couple of

858
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 4: instances of that this year. We have Miami of Ohio obviously,

859
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: and then we had High Point. And these are you know,

860
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: both teams with thirty wins or more who tried and

861
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: wanted to get you know, more strength of schedule. They

862
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: wanted to get more quality games. They wanted to just

863
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: show what they were capable of doing. But the biggest

864
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 4: problem is there's really no incentive for a larger team

865
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: to put them on the schedule.

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Speaker 3: I jump in on that.

867
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Speaker 4: Yeah, go right ahead.

868
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so I want to even take it a step further,

869
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna nerd out on this. But if there's

870
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: ever a time to do it, it's right now.

871
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 5: Yes.

872
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: So, not only is there no incentive to schedule them

873
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: there are good mid major teams, it's actually a disincentive.

874
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: And let me explain why.

875
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So the net ranking is this ranking that we

876
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: now use to kind of judge teams within the NCAA term. Okay, One,

877
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: first of all, there's obviously preseason bias, which I think

878
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: is dumb because teams change over so quick. You don't

879
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: know what you're getting year to year, but one of

880
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: the metrics that goes into the net is margin of victory.

881
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: And so you know, I said this the other day,

882
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: and I you know, it's not a brag by any stretch,

883
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: but you know, I had Travis Steele on my podcast

884
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: and we talked about this, and he said, like, I

885
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 2: understand why no one will schedule us, And he basically said,

886
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: you want to play the best teams, which are quote

887
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: unquote quad one games for people who remember that verbiage

888
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: from the selection process, but you also want to play

889
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: quad four games. You want to play the worst teams

890
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: that you possibly can to beat them in the biggest

891
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 2: margin that you possibly can, because it is incentivized in

892
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: the system that you have. So even if you schedule

893
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: a high point, you're doing them a favor. You might

894
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: lose to them, But even if you beat them by eight,

895
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: it doesn't help you in the way that it helps

896
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: you to beat somebody much worse than them by forty.

897
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: So it's not only that you're not incentivized again, you're

898
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: actually disincentivized to schedule them. I thought it was an

899
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 2: important note. I didn't mean to cut you off. Jamar,

900
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: But I just want to know.

901
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: I think that's right. I mean I think that like,

902
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: when you get to the selection committee, they're going to

903
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 4: have more knowledge than most of the basketball fans or

904
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: certainly most of just the generic sports fans that are

905
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 4: out there. But I think just from that optical standpoint,

906
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: let's say you win the game. Oh you beat high Point. No,

907
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: high Point's good, this is an impressive win. Sure it

908
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 4: is like that becomes sort of the response because you're

909
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 4: already kind of playing uphill. Now again, the selection committee

910
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: will understand the high Point is a much better team

911
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 4: than the audience writ large. But again there's like there's

912
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 4: just no there's no win there. You beat them, Okay,

913
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 4: well that's who you beat. You lose to them, it's catastrophic.

914
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: It doesn't it just it doesn't register. I don't know

915
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: what the fix is, Like, is there like what he

916
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: was saying is right. I agree with his comments and

917
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 4: using his platform everything you said one hundred percent. What's

918
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: the fix, Aaron, Like, how do you fix it? Is

919
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: there a fix for it? Or is this just kind

920
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 4: of the unfortunate reality of being one of those smaller

921
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: schools in this era. It's just it's just gonna have

922
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: to be this way. The the AQ, the automatic qualifier,

923
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 4: it might be the biggest thing. It's like, if you're

924
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 4: in a conference and you have thirty some wins, shouldn't

925
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: you be the representative? Anyway, it feels like maybe that's

926
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 4: the discussion they need to start having.

927
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, first of all, I do think the

928
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: margin of victory. I don't know that's one, Like, I

929
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: don't know what the logic is behind it necessarily, so

930
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: i'd be I think you should probably eliminate it. But

931
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: if there is a good reason, I would be willing

932
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: to listen to. What is the region reason for why

933
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: margin of victory is included in the net. The other

934
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: thing I will say is like, you know, the way

935
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: quad one games are decided Quad two, Quad three. Again,

936
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: I won't pour people too much, but essentially, if you

937
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: play a team in the top twenty five of the nets,

938
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: so this is basically like a ranking, it's you know,

939
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: team one is say Duke, and team twenty is say Vanderbilt,

940
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: and team fifty is whatever. Okay, So the way the

941
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: quad system is set up, you get a Quad one

942
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: game is a win over a top twenty five team

943
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: at home a top fifty team on a neutral court,

944
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: which is, by the way, when you see these games

945
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: in December, when it's Tennessee playing whoever in front of

946
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: eighty people, you know, one thousand miles from campus, and

947
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: you're sitting there saying, why isn't Tennessee playing Gonzaga in Knoxville. Oh,

948
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: it's because it's on a neutral court and it's more

949
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: beneficial than playing them at home. So it's top twenty

950
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: five at home, top fifty on a neutral court, and

951
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: then top seventy five on the road. And where the

952
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: issue comes in is that's how these Power Conference teams

953
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 2: starts stacking up all of these quad one wins and

954
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: frankly quad one opportunities. Right, So you know, I don't

955
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: have the net rankings in front of me, but basically

956
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: you can assume essentially everybody in the SEC, essentially everybody

957
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: in the Big ten is in the top seventy five.

958
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: You might be seventy two and you might stink, But

959
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: if Arkansas beats LSU on the road and their ranks

960
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: seventy two, that counts the same as beating Florida at

961
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: home because it's a quad one game. So I think

962
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: you gotta kind of tweak what is considered quad one,

963
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: quad two, quad three. I don't know how much that

964
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: helps the high points of the world. And then again

965
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: the margin of victory thing. Again, you're not only not incentivized,

966
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: you're actually disincentivized to schedule them. That was a long

967
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: winded answer, but hopefully that gives a little bit of context.

968
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that makes sense. It's just you know, there's

969
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 4: always gonna be there's gonna be casualties, there's gonna be drawbacks,

970
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: there's gonna be certain things that you just kind of

971
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 4: have to live with that there's not perfect fixes for.

972
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 4: But you would hope that there might be something they

973
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 4: could do to tweak things both on the regular season

974
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: end when it comes to the automatic qualifier or the

975
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 4: conference tournaments or whatever those kind of situations are, and

976
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: as well as the scheduling concerns. So again, I don't know,

977
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 4: I don't know what the fix is. I don't think

978
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 4: it's a simple thing, but you would want to see

979
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: and I'm glad. Look, I'm glad high Point got in,

980
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 4: and I'm glad mind me of Ohio got in. Even

981
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 4: Tennessee beat them pretty handily. They still deserve to be there,

982
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 4: in my opinion, even though they went into their tournament

983
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: and lost, after the undefeated regular season that they had

984
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: had and high point, really you would only I mean,

985
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 4: I guess really you'd only really look at them as

986
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: a Cinderella because of their name and because they play

987
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 4: in a smaller conference. I mean, they've got some very

988
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 4: talented guys. The guy coach that we'll see if he stays,

989
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 4: because there's probably gonna be some jobs out there that

990
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 4: are gonna they're gonna go after him. But you know,

991
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 4: that's a program that you know you could build that

992
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 4: that kind of a program. But the challenge is just

993
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 4: going to be how do you do it in this

994
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: day and age, the way that everything is kind of

995
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: set up against you. Even the mid majors back in

996
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: the day didn't have the struggles that we are seeing now.

997
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: And look, I sent you this stat right before we

998
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: came back. This is now gonna be the third NCAA

999
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 4: tournament in a row where only one double digit seed

1000
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: is to advance to the Sweet sixteen, because we already

1001
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 4: know none are tomorrow, and you only got one in

1002
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 4: and in those three tournaments, all three of those teams

1003
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 4: are Power Conference teams. You got NC State. Of course,

1004
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 4: last year you had Arkansas, who wasn't the last year

1005
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 4: Arkansas last year they were a ten, and then you

1006
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: got Texas this year. So like that slipper that used

1007
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 4: to exist, it just doesn't seem to be there. High

1008
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 4: Point came close, no question about that, but it just

1009
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: does not seem to be there in the way that

1010
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: it used to be.

1011
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: All right, So we'll talk about the Cinderella thing in

1012
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: a second, and I do want to switch gears for

1013
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: half a second. By the way, Mark Medina is going

1014
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: to join us in hour three. He has agreed to

1015
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: push back because we're obviously just reacting to everything that

1016
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: just happened. You mentioned, you know, the lack of Cinderella.

1017
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: But last year Cinderella, as you said, was the lovely

1018
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: ten seeded Arkansas Razorbacks. Right, they advanced to a second

1019
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: straight Sweet Sixteen, two years in a row under John

1020
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: cal Perry. They'll be playing on the second weekend. And

1021
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: of course, by the way, to their credit, like I

1022
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: don't know how many people would know this off top

1023
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: of their head, five of the last six years they

1024
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 2: have made it to the second weekend of the NCAA tournament.

1025
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: To the credit of Eric Musselman, who's now at USC

1026
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: they made back to back Elite eights and then a

1027
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen. Under muss missed the tournament in twenty twenty four,

1028
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: and then twenty five and twenty six, coach cal has

1029
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: taken them to the Sweet sixteen.

1030
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 3: I'll just be curious for your perspective. So you live

1031
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 3: in Nashville.

1032
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: For people who don't know, I've spent a lot of

1033
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: time in Nashville the last few months because of college

1034
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: basketball related stuff. It's about twenty minutes from the Kentucky

1035
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: border or so, give or take. I bring it up

1036
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: because you did Nashville Radio forever. You live in Nashville,

1037
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: and there's so much crossover between, of course, the Tennessee

1038
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: fan base, the Vandy fan base, and the Kentucky Wildcats

1039
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: fan base. And we know how it ended for coach

1040
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: call at Kentucky. And I'm not even here to say

1041
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: that Kentucky made the wrong decision. I'm not gonna do.

1042
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: And they didn't really make the decision, but they kind

1043
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: of forced him out. He didn't get fired, but they

1044
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: kind of forced him out. Just where are you at,

1045
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: as somebody who lives in the area. You know, I

1046
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: know your wife's av all fan rooted against Cal forever.

1047
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: Are you enjoying this kind of final act new act?

1048
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: Does it not move the needle for you? Are you

1049
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: happy for him? Is he still the same Cal to

1050
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: you that he was at Kentucky. I would just be

1051
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: curious from your perspective on that.

1052
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 4: What's weird is I've always liked caw Okay, I've always

1053
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 4: kind of dug the way he goes about it, like, yeah,

1054
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 4: I know there's some history onics there, some politics there,

1055
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: there's some you know, I don't know. He's a character,

1056
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,959
Speaker 4: but I think that college basketball is better for having

1057
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 4: a guy like John Caliperry around. And I have never

1058
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 4: doubted for a second that he loved what he did,

1059
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 4: that you love coaching kids, that you love coaching college basketball,

1060
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 4: because there'd be no other reason for him to continue

1061
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 4: at this point. I remember we talked about it. I

1062
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 4: was when he got the gig, and it was like

1063
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: I was happy for him then because I thought, man,

1064
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 4: you know, imagine getting to do what you still love

1065
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: and still being in the SEC but not being in

1066
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 4: the pressure cooker of Lexington anymore, being able to go

1067
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: do it at a place where yeah, I mean they

1068
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: had Nolan Richardson and they had must To your point,

1069
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: they've had obviously a rich tradition of basketball in Arkansas,

1070
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 4: but it's not comparable obviously to what you're getting in Lexington,

1071
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 4: and the fans are not that just I don't know,

1072
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 4: year after year, what have you done for me lately

1073
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 4: and all of those things. I think that the pressure

1074
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 4: probably was wearing him down. It was taking the fun

1075
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 4: out of that job. I'm loving this like I'm pulling

1076
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 4: for Arkansas, like from Afar. I've kind of since he's

1077
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 4: been there. I've just wanted to see them do well

1078
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 4: because I think he's in a better place probably in

1079
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 4: his life. I think he's in a better place obviously

1080
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 4: as a coach as well. And it's just fun to

1081
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: see as far as like Kentucky fans that are you know,

1082
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: all been out of shape over it, or they're looking

1083
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 4: at their own guy and all this other kind of stuff. Certainly,

1084
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people up there, so that

1085
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 4: stuff is up there. I don't care about them, like

1086
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 4: you know, falling on their face or falling into mediocre

1087
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 4: and they might be in the sweet sixteen too. We'll

1088
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 4: find out. But I look at it from the from

1089
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 4: the cow standpoint and just say I was hoping this

1090
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 4: is how this would go. I don't think he's gonna

1091
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,479
Speaker 4: win a national title there, but I think that he's

1092
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 4: gonna be good for them. He's gonna leave them in

1093
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 4: a place that's better than where they are right now.

1094
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 4: And I think that he's actually enjoying what he's doing. Again,

1095
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 4: Like even after the game, after this classic that we

1096
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: just saw with high point, they asked him on the broadcast,

1097
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 4: what was the difference in the game, and he just

1098
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 4: kind of cocked a smile and he said, I think

1099
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 4: it's that kid Darius a cuff sure, Like he's just

1100
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 4: he's got that like off the cuff riff that you

1101
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 4: hadn't heard from Cal in a while. Everything was just

1102
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 4: kind of it just seemed miserable in Lexington in that

1103
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 4: last couple of years, and it seems like he's kind

1104
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 4: of recaptured the spirit of col that at times we've had.

1105
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: Now I'm not suggesting that he hasn't had his controversies

1106
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 4: and done things wrong, but for whatever reason, he's just

1107
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 4: kind of been It's like he's he's a villain to

1108
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 4: a lot of people. But he's kind of like your villain,

1109
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 4: Like he's not a villain that you despise. I don't

1110
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: feel like even when he was at Kentucky, you didn't

1111
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 4: hate Kentucky because cal was there. You just hated Kentucky

1112
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 4: because Kentucky's anno.

1113
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: Way, that last part was the best part. No, So

1114
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: I agree with everything you said. So I'll be quick

1115
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: and and by the way, Mark Medina has pushed back

1116
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: till ten Pacific one am Eastern, so we can talk

1117
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: some more college hoops here with Cal. So first of all,

1118
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: and I always give this preface because you know, for

1119
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: to degree that anybody follows us or remembers what our

1120
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: takes are. I'm never gonna not say that I wasn't

1121
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: critical at the end of Cal in Kentucky, and that

1122
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: was a quadruple negative.

1123
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 3: But I was critical.

1124
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: I thought that, you know, after they lost that second,

1125
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: you know, really bad game it was to Oakland and

1126
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, you know, I said he should retire.

1127
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: I said, you know, you know, you say you want

1128
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 2: what's best for Kentucky, you should retire. You're not living

1129
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: up to the Kentucky expectation. And frankly, the standard that

1130
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: you set early on in your tenure when there was

1131
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 2: four final fours. I believe in maybe the first like

1132
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: six years, maybe something like that. So I did say

1133
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: all those things, and I'm not gonna pretend that I didn't,

1134
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: but I do think a couple things. One I do

1135
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: remember having the conversation with you after he took the

1136
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: Arkansas job, and at first my initial reaction was, bro,

1137
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: you're in your sixties, you got more money than you

1138
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: could spend.

1139
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: Just go sit on a beach somewhere.

1140
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: And then I saw, you know, if you remember, he

1141
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: did kind of this goodbye video uh to Kentucky fans,

1142
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: and he just basically said, like, I love having a team,

1143
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: I love having a team to coach, I love having

1144
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: young And I was like, you know what, if somebody

1145
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: wants to pay him to do this, then he.

1146
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: Should be allowed to do it. And so I have

1147
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: been happy for him.

1148
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: I'll be transparent, like maybe a cuff is this good

1149
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: and he's just you know, covered, I didn't think I

1150
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: was gonna be this good though, Like I will readily

1151
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: admit I kind of thought he was washed up, like

1152
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: I really did. And I think what has become clear.

1153
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: Is that exactly what you said is I think that

1154
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: the end at Kentucky got so bad that I do

1155
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: think it was one of those things where it was

1156
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: just like, you know, no matter what he did, it

1157
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna be enough, and no matter what he did,

1158
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: there was a part of the fan base that was

1159
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: never gonna believe in him, and I think, you know,

1160
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: second guessing himself.

1161
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't know it.

1162
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: It was just a weird deal where it just felt

1163
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: like it had run its course, it was time for

1164
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: something new.

1165
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: And so that's part of it too.

1166
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: It's like it's not just that he's at Arkansas, and

1167
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: it's not even just that he's having tournament success, because again,

1168
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: last year they were a ten seed. I forget the numbers,

1169
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: but they started out like one in five in SEC

1170
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: play something like that, and it was just like kind

1171
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: of the continuation of Okay, he's good, but he's not

1172
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: that good, like it was the last few years of

1173
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: Kentucky and so this season and again, maybe Acuff is

1174
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: just that good that that's the reason why. But I

1175
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: didn't see the Hey, this guy's gonna be SEC tournament champion,

1176
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: top four seed back to the Sweet sixteen, back to

1177
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: back years. So I think it's been really fun to

1178
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: watch from a distance. And yes, I never disliked him

1179
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: at all. The one thing I will say about cal

1180
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: two like all the stuff he says about like putting

1181
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: the players first, and you know that's all true. And

1182
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: so it's like if his former players love him, if

1183
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: they swear by him, if the people who know him

1184
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: love him and swear by him, I'm not going to

1185
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: criticize the man. I did think the coaching became stale,

1186
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: but I think we can now see that part of

1187
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: it was just that it was a byproduct of maybe

1188
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: where he was at.

1189
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I think that there are other stories that

1190
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 4: are similar to that. But I think all of that

1191
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 4: is is really well said. I mean, maybe you're gonna

1192
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 4: see the same thing from a Mike Tomlin. Oh, for example,

1193
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: when you look at the Steelers in their situation like

1194
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 4: another legendary program and it just run its like at

1195
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 4: some point, okay, we need we need a new voice

1196
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 4: in the room, and for Mike Tomlin, for John Calli Perry,

1197
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 4: for guys in that situation, they need a new group

1198
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 4: or a new challenge and might not be completely out

1199
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 4: of the confines of what they were doing. But nobody

1200
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 4: would think that Cal would have been bad if he

1201
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: had decided to go on TV. If indeed that's what

1202
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin ends up doing, there's a lot there, like

1203
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 4: there's you know, there are more things that you can do.

1204
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: But if Mike Tomlin wants to coach, I have no

1205
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 4: reason to believe that he could not go somewhere else

1206
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: and have a fresh start and succeed again, because he

1207
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 4: was never bad, even when he was even when the

1208
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 4: Steelers were not contenders, he was never bad.

1209
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me let me just put a ball on this.

1210
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: And I think that's an interesting point, and I think

1211
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: you brought up something else, is you know, I also

1212
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: think the message for Cal at Kentucky got kind of stale.

1213
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: And it's like I was thinking about this.

1214
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: I know, like it's the most cliche sports talk radio

1215
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: to compare sports to marriage, but it was like, but seriously,

1216
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: but it was kind of like that marriage where Kentucky

1217
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: fans knew what he was gonna say after a loss

1218
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: and after a win, and you know, the catch phrases

1219
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: kind of got old, and I think like they just

1220
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: got tired of each other and it's like, you know,

1221
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 2: and I mean this in a positive way for marriage,

1222
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: but it's like, you know, you're with somebody long enough

1223
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 2: you kind of know their stories. You know, they've told

1224
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: you the same eight stories from they when they were

1225
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: a kid, and they did this in the summer, and

1226
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: you know, it's like and it's like, but it's endearing

1227
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: in a marriage if you have a good marriage, but

1228
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: it's like if the marriage isn't good, then you get

1229
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: annoyed by those things and it goes sideways, you know.

1230
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: And and I think the Kentucky Caliperry marriage, you know,

1231
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: unlike real marriages, was obviously gonna end at some point

1232
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: one way or the other. But that was one where

1233
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: it just felt like it was a marriage where they

1234
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: just they they knew everything there was to know. They

1235
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: had heard every catch phrase, they had heard every whatever.

1236
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: And like I said, it clearly worked out well for

1237
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: for Arkansas and for Josh Calipari. I should say, and

1238
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: I'll put a ball on this because we got to

1239
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: get gotta gotta get to a break and come back

1240
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: and talk to Disaga. But I'll also say this, like

1241
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: I think it's easy to kind of crap on Kentucky

1242
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 2: right now, it's been a down season. We'll talk Mark

1243
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: Pope later in the show because they got a game

1244
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: against Iowa State. But even even if it's bad now,

1245
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: it's Kentucky. They care too much. It's not gonna be

1246
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: like this forever. And a little bit like the North

1247
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: Carolina conversation we had an hour one. So it's been

1248
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: great for cal hasn't worked out as well, we don't

1249
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: think for Kentucky. We'll see what happens against Iowa State,

1250
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: but doesn't mean that Kentucky is gonna be down forever,

1251
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: even if they didn't have the regular season that they

1252
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: were expecting. Fox Sports Radio er Torus Jason Martin broadcasting

1253
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios to segment at

1254
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: the end of the hour before we get there Disaga,

1255
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: get you caught up on everything going on in the

1256
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: world of sports. But also we'll come back, we'll talk

1257
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: a little bit about the lack of Cinderellas and Jay

1258
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 2: mart I thought you brought up an interesting point earlier

1259
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 2: in the day about Gonzaga, which is out and kind

1260
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: of where that program is right now. So a lot

1261
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: of college hoops still to get to Mark Medina in

1262
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: hour three to give us a little taste of NBA.

1263
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,880
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1264
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,640
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1265
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,800
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1266
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:16,800
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1267
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,680
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1268
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from

1269
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios went long in that first segment.

1270
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: The This segment is coming up here in just a

1271
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 3: few minutes. But a quick update on what.

1272
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 2: Is trending at twelve thirty Eastern time. Let's get it

1273
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: to the news desk, sir, take it away.

1274
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 5: We just had the late game finish in the NBA.

1275
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 5: Milwaukee sent Phoenix to a fifth straight loss, one o eight,

1276
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 5: one oh five. The Suns, in a close game on

1277
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 5: free throws were just ten of eighteen. Clippers won in overtime.

1278
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 5: At Dallas, Spurs won their fifth straight beating Indiana. The

1279
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 5: Pacers have lost sixteen in a row. Washington lost its

1280
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 5: fifteenth in a row. Oklahoma City beat him there today

1281
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 5: one thirty two to one. Eleven eleven straight wins for

1282
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 5: the Thunder, forty points for Shay Gilgis Alexander and two

1283
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 5: great finishes. Lakers won their ninth straight on a last

1284
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 5: second three winning at Orlando one oh five one oh

1285
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 5: four Houston on a last second tip in edge Miami

1286
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 5: won twenty three to one twenty two. On to college

1287
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 5: hoops now, Texas went three and oh This week they've

1288
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 5: eliminated the three seed in the West, Gonzaga, seventy four

1289
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 5: to sixty eight. So Texas is one of those teams

1290
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Speaker 5: that has gone from first four to at least the

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Speaker 5: Sweet sixteen. Ucla five years ago went all the way

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Speaker 5: from first four to final four VCU famously in twenty

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Speaker 5: eleven first four to Final four, and roughly ten years ago,

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Speaker 5: teams like Syracuse, Tennessee LaSalle also made it at least

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Speaker 5: to Sweet sixteen out of first four. Arkansas took the

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Speaker 5: late game ninety four eighty eight over high point thirty

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Speaker 5: six points for Darius Aikov, wins for Michigan and Michigan

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Speaker 5: State Duke advanced. Houston dominated Illinois beat vs. You tonight

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Speaker 5: and Nebraska in a thriller and with a great crowd

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Speaker 5: there at Oklahoma City that had to be one of

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Speaker 5: the best neutral court crowds. It just sounded like a

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Speaker 5: home game, go ahead to second. It didn't even seem

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Speaker 5: neutral with all the red there, quite honestly. I mean

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Speaker 5: the trip from Lincoln, Nebraska, down to Oklahoma City is

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01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 5: like going from San Francisco to La so it's not

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously the same state. But my goodness, they

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Speaker 5: were allowed. It was a great environment and Nebraska wins

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01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 5: on a layup with two seconds left, beating Vanderbilt seventy

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Speaker 5: four to seventy two. NHL Minnesota in overtime defeated Dallas

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01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 5: two to one. Major League Soccer Dallas beat Houston four

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Speaker 5: to three, Charlotte six to one over New York. Nashville

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Speaker 5: won five nothing over Orlando. Portugal's Christiano Ronaldo, with his

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01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 5: hamstring injury, will miss this month's World Cup tune up

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01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 5: games against the US and Mexico. Next Saturday, the US

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01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 5: plays Belgium in Atlanta. The World Cup starts June twelfth

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01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 5: for the Americans at the La Rams Stadium. A lot

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01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 5: of NFL stadiums to be in use this summer. Just

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Speaker 5: a All guy Are won the O'Reilly Race today. NASCAR's

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Speaker 5: on FS one Sunday from Darlington three pm Eastern time,

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Speaker 5: Tyler Reddick or in the poll, dock to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Disager. Disaga will be back here in just

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Speaker 2: a moment with his extended update here in about ten

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Speaker 2: minutes from now, maybe a little bit less. Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio er towards Jason mort broadcasting live from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 3: Jamar put a bow. We talked about it.

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Speaker 2: You brought up the great point zero double digit seeds

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01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 2: will be playing tomorrow, which means that only one double

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Speaker 2: digit seed will make the round of the Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me that one double digit seed. The little engine

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01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: that could, Texas Longhorns from the Mighty sec As de

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Speaker 2: Segre just told you, so I bring it up. Is

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Speaker 2: there anything to really add to the Cinderella is kind

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01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: of sort of maybe dead narrative because I don't know

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01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,959
Speaker 2: that there is. And you know, all, I'll say, really quick,

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01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: this is what everybody wanted, because I was told, you know,

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01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: when we wanted to change the transferrles, so oh it's

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01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: not fair to make them sit out and.

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Speaker 3: Just pay the players.

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, you put in rules that aren't

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01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: really rules, and then you sue every time something goes wrong.

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01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna have sort of chaos sort of anarchy. So

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01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised by this, and this was always going

1344
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: to be the end game when you both allowed essentially

1345
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 2: unlimited free agency with unlimited pay. So I don't really

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Speaker 2: have much to add, but I hate to say it

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Speaker 2: like this, I do sort of think the great mid

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Speaker 2: major runs are largely over Jmar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, certainly the evidence is pointing in that direction,

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01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 4: and I think more than anything, I think you're getting

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01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,919
Speaker 4: less of those games that even feel close. It's great,

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 4: especially this year, like and I mean Friday, I think

1353
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 4: was probably the best example of this, but there were

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01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 4: a number of games where by just a couple minutes

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01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 4: into the second half, or sometimes even just with time

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01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 4: left in the first half, you kind of knew it

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01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 4: was over. Like it used to be a situation where

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01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna have a comeback, or you're gonna have a

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01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 4: lot of these comebacks, and yeah, you got it in

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 4: North Carolina VCU, and you know, you did have a

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01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 4: couple of moments like that, but by and large, the

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 4: big dogs just blew these guys out like it wasn't

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Speaker 4: There used to be an entertainment value in it that's

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01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 4: no longer there, Like where it's it's no, they're not

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01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 4: coming back. This team doesn't have a chance. This is

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01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 4: a complete mismatch in a way that it didn't used

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Speaker 4: to feel that way. And maybe I don't know, like

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01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 4: nostalgia can it can be really easy to get lost

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Speaker 4: in nostalgia. But I just remember tournament after tournament where

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Speaker 4: it just seemed like stuff was happening constantly on that

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01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 4: Thursday and Friday that was unique and interesting and we're

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Speaker 4: just not seeing that now. Now that's gonna make for

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01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 4: much more star studded regional finals and final four games

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01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 4: and things like that we had last year. I don't

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01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 4: know it's going to be that chalky this year. But

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 4: you know that I think is ideally what you want

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01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 4: as a viewer. We don't have to completely relitigate that

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Speaker 4: the way we have in the past. But I'm of

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01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 4: the mindset that we love Cinderella, but we don't want

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Speaker 4: Cinderella at the end. And so when you get those

1381
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 4: close games, like perfect example of that would be like

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01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 4: high Point. High Point didn't win, but high Point came

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01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 4: awfully close, and so you got the drama, but then

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Speaker 4: you still got the you know, you get John Calipari

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Speaker 4: and you get Darius Acuff going on to play next week,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's kind of the best of both worlds.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, like I don't know, is it a function

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01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 4: of nil Aaron. Is it a function of the new

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01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 4: rules and the new college sports and that environment that

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01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 4: it becomes harder because guys don't have to go to

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Speaker 4: a school like that because there's somebody else that, you know,

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Speaker 4: where they can where it can work in a better capacity.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what the change is necessar ssarily that

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01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 4: has forced it to become this way, but it does

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Speaker 4: seem like this is the new normal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will be curious too if we can

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01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 2: defend this era for a second. As we get deeper

1398
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 2: into the tournament, the quality of play is going to

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Speaker 2: continue to be awesome. And we saw it today and

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Speaker 2: I think tomorrow is the day we're gonna see it.

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Speaker 2: And we'll preview the Sunday games in our three. But

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Speaker 2: Kansas Saint John's Virginia, Tennessee, UCLA, Yukon, Texas Tech versus Alabama.

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01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 2: I mean, there are so many games that are so

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01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: intriguing and it's only going to continue as we get

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01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 2: deeper into this tournament. Because you know that Arkansas win.

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01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 2: Now they're probably gonna play Arizona. You know, whoever Duke

1407
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 2: wins today, they're gonna play the winner of Saint John's Kansas.

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: So it's going to get better really quickly, because I

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: don't know if we'll have time for it. In our

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01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 2: three we mention kind of the evolution of college basketball,

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01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 2: and they're not a Cinderella, at least not anymore. I

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01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 2: also think we are slowly seeing Gonzaga essentially.

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01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 3: Return to I don't know what the right way to

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01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 3: describe it is.

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Speaker 2: They're still a top twenty five team, but I do

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: think that they probably missed I don't think they probably

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01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 2: they missed their window where they had those three four

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01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: years in a row where they were great, and now

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01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: I do think they lost today. You remember they made

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01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: about seven or eight sweet they made the second weekend

1421
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: or beyond about seven or eight years in a row.

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Speaker 2: This is the second straight year where they lose in

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Speaker 2: the round of thirty two. And I do just think

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01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: that with the way the sport is going, it is

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01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: hard for me to see unless you know, some kid

1426
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 2: grew up wanting to be a Gonzaga fan, and you

1427
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: know they get the right five start of Gonzaga player

1428
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 2: and they get the right five star at the right

1429
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 2: time and surrounded with the right guys. Like that's a

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01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: program where I don't think they'll be bad under Mark Few,

1431
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 2: But second straight year they lose in the round of

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Speaker 2: thirty two, and I think that the era of Gonzaga

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01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: at the top, top top of the sport probably is done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I it may not be a perfect comparison,

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01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 4: but I just see Gonzaga increasingly like I see Boise State,

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01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 4: sure in college football, even though it's different, and Gonzaga

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 4: has certainly gotten closer. I mean they've been in a

1438
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 4: championship game, for example, But like overall, I kind of

1439
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 4: look at them similarly in terms of what Boise State

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 4: is now even compared to what we kind of thought

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01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,879
Speaker 4: Boise State was ten years ago, Like when Chris Peterson

1442
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 4: was still there and you had Kellen Moore and you

1443
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 4: had some of those guys that were coming through there,

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 4: and I mean, you had Genti and you know, you've

1445
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 4: had some talented guys that have been there obviously in

1446
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 4: recent years, but it just hasn't quite felt the same.

1447
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 4: Like when Boise is good, I still don't see them

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01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 4: on that level. There was a moment where Gonzaga was

1449
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 4: kind of above that and maybe even Boise was approaching

1450
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 4: that never quite got there, And now they've kind of

1451
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 4: receded down because some of the guys that they would

1452
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 4: have gotten now go to a major conference because they

1453
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 4: can make some money there on top of everything else

1454
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 4: and probably get a little bit more exposure. They don't

1455
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 4: have to go to Boise the way that they maybe

1456
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 4: once did. And so I kind of think that Gonzaga

1457
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 4: is on that same trajectory, which makes me wonder how long.

1458
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 4: Like I know, a few loves it and it's a

1459
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 4: you know, it's a rich school and he's you know,

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01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 4: a lot of advantages there, but I don't know how

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 4: much longer he's going to want to do it, just

1462
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 4: because I don't think that the success is going to

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01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 4: be the same. Like if somebody wanted to poach him,

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01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 4: now would be the time, I feel like, but he

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01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 4: may just that just maybe you know, his happy place

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01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 4: and that's the end of that story. But I do

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 4: think that the Gonzaga that we used to know and

1468
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 4: used to you know, this is an undefeated team going

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01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 4: into March and all this stuff. I think those days

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01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 4: are past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just the sport is changing, and I think even

1472
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: a well set up school like that, it is still

1473
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, a small Catholic school

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01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: in a remote area.

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Speaker 3: And when you know, I mean, it is what it is.

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01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: You know, we're trying to quote unquote cap these schools

1477
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: on spending, but we know that nobody really can. And

1478
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: when you're competing with these big state schools with hundreds

1479
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: of thousands of alums, I just I think it's tough,

1480
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: and I think it's no different than as you said.

1481
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 2: I think boys is actually a great analogy in college football.

1482
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think Gonzaga will be good. And I

1483
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: still think in the right years they could make a

1484
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: Final four. They were a three seed this year. But

1485
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 2: I just I don't see the world where you know,

1486
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 2: they had those two years they had all those NBA

1487
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: guys Jalen Suggs and Chet Holmgren and all that. I

1488
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: don't think that is going to be Gonzaga going forward.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors, Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live. Yes,

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: we are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We

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01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: will come back when we do. Steve de Sager cannot

1492
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: wait to hear everything that we missed in a busy

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Speaker 2: Saturday in the world of sports. To Seger is the next.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio Aero, Torris Martin. We

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01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: are broadcasting live here at twelve forty nine Eastern Time

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Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 3: Let's not waste any time.

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Speaker 2: Get it right over to the news desk, Steve Desager,

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: give us our late nights extended up there.

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Speaker 3: Why are you smiling?

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01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 5: Because we got good stuff from the tournament. Here we did.

1502
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 5: Darius Acuff, let's start it on the court. That was

1503
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 5: some good stuff again. Thirty six points in the late

1504
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 5: night win for Arkansas, eliminating high point. But AP put

1505
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 5: out a list of all the players since the nineteen

1506
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 5: eighties in the tournament who in these two rounds have

1507
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 5: averaged thirty points and six assists. The answer is Jimmer

1508
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 5: Fredette and Darius Acuff.

1509
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: Wow.

1510
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,839
Speaker 5: Since the nineteen eighties, that is it, and in fact, Acuff,

1511
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 5: according to stat zync, the only player to have a

1512
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 5: total in any two game span of the tournament of

1513
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 5: at least sixty points total and ten assists and five

1514
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 5: turnovers or less. Since assists became an official stat over

1515
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 5: forty years ago, and he's done that in his first

1516
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 5: two tournament games as a freshman.

1517
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 3: Talking about incredible. That's didn't someone go for thirty one

1518
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 3: and twenty seven last night? No, no, it's okay, we

1519
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 3: don't know.

1520
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 4: You can. You can all you wanted.

1521
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 3: We should get some sort of Connecticut to that game.

1522
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 3: That game was an abomination.

1523
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: Yukon stinks, but we should get a Yukon and UCL

1524
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 2: a little bet going for for tomorrow.

1525
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 3: But we could discuss that.

1526
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 5: The word abomination needs to be to reserved for the

1527
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 5: Yukon Butler game from a few years ago.

1528
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 3: Because I was at that game. It wasn't that bad.

1529
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 5: That's still as two hours that will never.

1530
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: Get people say it was so bad. Game seven of

1531
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals that year was the year Kobe beat

1532
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: the Lakers and the shoe Lakers beat the beat the Celtics. Okay, okay,

1533
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 2: go go look at the stats from games memorable. It

1534
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: was just as well that was pulling teeth. Yeah, yeah,

1535
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 2: yes it was.

1536
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 3: And everyone's like, oh, college basketball, it's the worst product ever.

1537
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, go watch Game seven Lakers Celtics. But anyway,

1538
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 3: go ahead to say.

1539
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 5: There have been blowouts, yes, in this year's tournament, the

1540
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,759
Speaker 5: Big Ten Conference teams alone apparently have had seven wins

1541
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 5: by at least twenty points or more. Already. That's a

1542
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 5: conference record for a single full tournament all time. I

1543
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 5: think we're up to nineteen blowouts total and we're only

1544
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 5: halfway through round two. No NCAA tournament in this century

1545
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 5: has had that many games decided by at least twenty points.

1546
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 5: Great trivia question though, from Associated Press high points out,

1547
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 5: So in this year's basketball tournament, can you name the

1548
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 5: only team left that does not play FBS football? It

1549
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 5: is a team playing tomorrow. You gave me enough time,

1550
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 5: ig because there have been years of course where Villanova,

1551
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 5: will you know, et cetera. Teams like that can make

1552
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 5: it to this point of the basketball tournament, but they're

1553
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 5: not a big time football program. Saint John's is the

1554
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 5: one that is left.

1555
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 3: Even I would say perdue, but I was just gonna say.

1556
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 5: Even more stunning is apparently last year was the first

1557
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 5: year the only times since they created Division one A

1558
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 5: football and one Double A about forty fifty years ago,

1559
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 5: last year was the only time that every team that

1560
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 5: made the Sweet sixteen had an FBS football team. And yes,

1561
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 5: that included Perdue, so just kind of barely making it

1562
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 5: on the football aspect. That's interesting though, That is interesting.

1563
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 5: Nebraska over Vanderbilt tonight, seventy four to seventy two. Nebraska

1564
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 5: plays a Sweet sixteen game against the winner of sunday's

1565
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 5: Florida Iowa matchup. Tyler Tanner twenty seven points in defeat.

1566
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 5: His shot for Vandy at the buzzer from back court

1567
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 5: went in and out. Nebraska had won it on the

1568
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 5: layup with two seconds left. Texas Longhorns three to zero.

1569
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 5: This week beat NC State BYU and Gonzaga. This is

1570
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,879
Speaker 5: a team that went nine and ten against SEC foes

1571
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 5: and here they are still alive. Beat Gonzaga. Tonight, Texas

1572
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 5: plays the Sweet sixteen game against the winner of Sunday's

1573
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 5: Perdue Miami matchup. Which gets me to the schedule. Keep

1574
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 5: in mind how the second round works for television, and

1575
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 5: we saw it again again today today we had the

1576
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 5: Michigan game as a standalone game, and then Michigan State

1577
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 5: only playing after that, and then the Duke game started.

1578
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 5: So tomorrow we're gonna get Miami Perdue noon Eastern time

1579
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 5: and only that game and after that same arena Iowa

1580
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 5: stayed against Kentucky and only that game at that time,

1581
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 5: and Iowa State four, where Joshua Jefferson is likely out

1582
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 5: Sunday against the Wildcats due to the springed ankle suffered

1583
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 5: early in round one. Then it's Saint John's Kansas at

1584
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 5: five point fifteen Eastern, and then we'll get the rest

1585
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 5: of the games. The late game tomorrow night is Alabama

1586
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 5: Texas Tech from Tampa. But nothing would start as late

1587
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 5: as that Yukon game last night because it took forever

1588
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 5: to finish the UCLA right before. But yeah, it's gonna

1589
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 5: be U cut against UCLA. You know where I hear,

1590
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 5: I hear. We are the Yukon show of record, So

1591
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 5: I do have to bring up that the Yukon women

1592
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 5: won their first rounder at home today. They're thirty five

1593
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 5: and oh they led forty one to eleven over ut

1594
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 5: cent Antonio had nineteen steals in the game and won

1595
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 5: the game ninety to fifty two. Yukon's lead in the

1596
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 5: third quarter was fifty six to fourteen. UCLA eventually put

1597
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 5: away cow Baptist ninety six forty three Tonight outscored him

1598
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 5: in the second half fifty two to nine. Back to you.

1599
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Disager. A lot of ground

1600
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: covered there, and we got a lot of ground to

1601
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 2: cover here. In hour three we'll break up the college hoopstock.

1602
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 2: Mark Medino will join us. Coming up, we'll also reset

1603
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 2: the college basketball heading into Sunday, a lot to discuss.

1604
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 3: One hour left. This is Fox Sports Radio.

1605
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 5: I'm Steve Desager.

1606
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody. Hour three tours and martin Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: One a m.

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01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:59,719
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1610
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,000
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1611
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1612
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1617
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: college hoops eight Finals, The last two were arguably the

1618
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 2: two best games of the day. Nebraska holds on essentially

1619
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,799
Speaker 2: at the buzzer seventy four to seventy two. Tyler Tanner,

1620
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt Star takes a three quarter court shot that was

1621
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 2: halfway down. It rims out Vanderbilt does not win. Nebraska survives.

1622
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: They are going to quite obviously their first Sweet sixteen

1623
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 2: after winning their first NCAA Tournament game ever just a

1624
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 2: few days ago. And in the light one, the Arkansas

1625
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 2: Razorbacks survive the High Point Panthers.

1626
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: It was a thriller. Arkansas advances, where they will.

1627
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:05,480
Speaker 2: Likely face in the Sweet sixteen next Thursday, the Arizona Wildcats.

1628
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: Arizona plays Utah State for the right to advance to

1629
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen on Sunday. Tell you what a lot

1630
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 2: going on into the world to college basketball, but there's

1631
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 2: a lot going on in the world of the NBA

1632
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 2: as well right now. So with it, do want to

1633
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: go to the phone lines and bring in our favorite

1634
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: NBA insider, our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider, a man

1635
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 2: who I had the privilege of meeting for the first

1636
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 2: time in person this week, Mark Medina is on the phone. Mark,

1637
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 2: what's up, buddy?

1638
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 9: How you doing Aaron? I'm doing well right back at you.

1639
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 9: Finally had the privilege to meet you in person. It

1640
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 9: was cool to I know, always in what you look like,

1641
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 9: but you know, attach a name to the actual real face,

1642
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 9: I know that we truly exist outside of just the

1643
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 9: social media world.

1644
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 2: Well, you certainly exist outside of the social media world.

1645
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: You're crushing it as always, And I'll start with this

1646
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: is you cover the NBA, but this time of year

1647
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 2: there's a lot of crossover over and for Essentially Sports.

1648
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: You did a big sit down talking to multiple NBA

1649
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: scouts and people about this draft class. Just curious for

1650
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: your takeaways, which again everybody can find on your Twitter feed,

1651
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 2: Mark g Underscore Medina and again at essentially sports dot com.

1652
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, well what I found interesting. I'm sure this is

1653
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 9: up your ally because I heard your great head on

1654
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 9: Calvert Show with Jason McIntyre, but they went a little

1655
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 9: in depth here. The feeling is, yeah, what we all

1656
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 9: know that the first two, the first three picks of

1657
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 9: the NBA Draft, it's going to be between Darren Peterson,

1658
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 9: Aga the Pansa or Cameron Boozer. The favorite is Peterson

1659
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 9: or Debansa. But there's a feeling that Cameron Boozer could

1660
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 9: sneak his way into number one because he's considered right

1661
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 9: now the best player in college basketball, complete player, all

1662
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 9: about winning on both ends of the floor. But where

1663
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 9: aj and Darren have the edge is considered to have

1664
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 9: more upside. What I also found fascinating, and you've covered

1665
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 9: this a lot are this past season, is I asked

1666
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 9: some point blank, like what's your level of concerned about

1667
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 9: Peterson's injuries? And they say it's concerning enough that they

1668
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 9: want to separate fact from fiction from medicals. But the

1669
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 9: end of the day, they don't think it's going to

1670
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 9: wind up mattering for two reasons here. One they don't

1671
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 9: think that they are serious injuries, and two, for better

1672
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 9: and for worse than today's NBA they don't really care

1673
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 9: because that's the error we're in and load management. So

1674
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 9: fascinating stuff.

1675
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, well, not just just the injury side of

1676
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 4: Is anybody concerned about just the work ethic side of it?

1677
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 4: And I'm not necessarily trying to scold Darren petersoner point

1678
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 4: a finger in his direction, but I know that that

1679
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 4: has to be part of the discussion process to some degree.

1680
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 4: Is you know, I mean, you've got to have a

1681
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 4: guy that wants to be out there as well, and

1682
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 4: that's at least been questioned at times this season.

1683
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's a fair point. And when you're

1684
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 9: looking at is it going to be aj Is it

1685
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 9: going to be Darren? Some people choose to ban said

1686
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 9: because a He's more available, and the best ability is availability,

1687
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 9: as Bill par says. Parcels has family famously said, and

1688
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 9: they think that his work ethic is better. But Aaron,

1689
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 9: you know this better than anyone else. So I'm probably

1690
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 9: preaching through the choir. But you know, the way they

1691
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 9: outline the puzzle pieces on what matters most in NBA

1692
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 9: draft decision making, it's regular season body of work, how

1693
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 9: they produce, whether they're a good worker or not. It's

1694
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 9: about bottom line results. Then it's about the interview, gain

1695
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 9: a sense of who they are as people, et cetera.

1696
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,839
Speaker 9: Medicals are third. It's only first if there's this drastic

1697
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 9: injury that suggests, you know, this is a long term

1698
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 9: red flag, but usually it's boiler plate, And then you know,

1699
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,879
Speaker 9: a distant fourth is NCAA tournament results. Usually the NCAA

1700
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 9: tournament results only matter for players that are you know,

1701
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 9: a pleasant surprise that are trying to sneak into the

1702
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 9: second round or wait, first round. But for guys that

1703
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 9: are projected in the lottery good performance, bad performance, they

1704
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 9: just kind of shrug their shoulders and look at the

1705
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 9: whole regular season and the upcoming draft combine where they

1706
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 9: can talk to them as things that matter more.

1707
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: Mark Medina joining us our Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider.

1708
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 2: You can follow him on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Madina.

1709
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 2: Let's get to the association. Let's start with Saturday night.

1710
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: Lakers win their ninth straight Austin not Austin Reeves. Excuse me,

1711
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 2: it was Luke Canard who hits the game winner. You know, listen,

1712
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: I know the Lakers are always going to be a

1713
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 2: lead topic. They have one ninth straight. Luca, of course,

1714
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 2: was coming off the sixty point game just a few

1715
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 2: days ago. Has anything changed in your mind in the

1716
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: pecking order in the West with their success or is

1717
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: it still? I would assume and tell me if I'm wrong. Okay,

1718
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 2: see San Antonio, Denver and the Lakers behind them.

1719
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 9: Well, it's changed, but not drastically where change as they

1720
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 9: could have been six I think that they've time climbed

1721
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 9: to the top of the second tier. I still think

1722
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 9: the first tier is Oklahoma City, San Antonio. You can

1723
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 9: make a case for either and then the rest of

1724
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 9: the field. I would say that as we speak now,

1725
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 9: the Lakers are speaking better than the Denver Nuggets, not

1726
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 9: just in the win lost column, but just you know,

1727
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 9: from top to bottom, their star players playing their best

1728
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 9: as well as their supporting cast. With the Nuggets, obviously,

1729
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 9: Nikola Jokic is still in the MVP mix, Jamal Murray

1730
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 9: is healthier than he has been in other seasons, but

1731
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 9: too many overlapping injuries that the Nuggets have been dealing with.

1732
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 9: Peyton Watson's supposed to come back soon, but they've struggled

1733
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 9: to find the rotation right rotation combinations around Jokic and Murray,

1734
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 9: but you know that subject to change. The Nuggets have

1735
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 9: obviously had the Lakers number in the postseason these last

1736
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 9: few years, but I think the Lakers are playing that well,

1737
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 9: and it's not just because of Luca or Lebron embracing

1738
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 9: his role. I honestly think the bigger things is that

1739
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,879
Speaker 9: DeAndre is actually playing up to his potential and accepting

1740
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 9: his role and they're playing defense. We've seen at times

1741
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 9: Luca put in these type of performances. We've seen Lebron

1742
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 9: willing to take a back seat earlier in the season,

1743
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 9: and it didn't matter as much because they didn't have

1744
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 9: good depth around them, But now we're seeing them play

1745
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 9: pass to their potential and as a result, you have

1746
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 9: to take them seriously as a contender. But I still

1747
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 9: don't put them in championship contending status quoi yet.

1748
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 4: Look at Houston, tell me what's going on there. It

1749
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like things are going great. And Durant again

1750
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 4: is a dude that can go out and get his

1751
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 4: but I'm not seeing the leadership qualities that that team

1752
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 4: needs out of him right now.

1753
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a perfect storm of every bad combination. Kevin Durant,

1754
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 9: usually the model of efficiency in his NBA career, has

1755
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 9: not been efficient as of late. We saw the Lakers

1756
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 9: do that with double seeming him. He wound up forcing

1757
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 9: show Scain a lot of turnovers. They've been missing out

1758
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 9: Brinson Gun for a few games with the back injury,

1759
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 9: and but even when he's been available, he's been up

1760
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 9: and down on both sides of the floor. Jabari Smith Junior,

1761
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 9: he's been inconsistent. He was seen as a player that

1762
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 9: would be a rising star. Not so much tom and Thompson.

1763
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 9: He's been solid, but not great. He was expected to

1764
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 9: take a leap, especially with the playmaking responsibilities this season,

1765
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 9: but we've seen that the Rockets have sorely missed Fred

1766
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 9: van Vliet this past year with his acl with his

1767
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 9: playmaking presence, his veteran leadership hit him taking no ball

1768
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 9: with anything. And even though he Mayadoka is a great coach,

1769
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 9: I haven't seen, you know, his fingerprints on the team

1770
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 9: as far as how they're playing defensively. And so I

1771
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 9: think what this means for the playoffs there they're one

1772
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 9: and done, They're they're an easy first round exit, and

1773
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 9: they just seem to have too many self inflicted wounds

1774
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 9: to count. And I should also add Tar Easan has

1775
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 9: not been able to hit announce side shop for almost

1776
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 9: three weeks. So a lot of bad things going on

1777
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 9: in too many things to address at once.

1778
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this mark, and it's kind of

1779
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 2: the exact opposite of that situation. The Boston Celtics so

1780
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 2: alone in second place in the East and obviously just

1781
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 2: recently got Jason Tatum back. How good of a coach

1782
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:20,520
Speaker 2: is Joe Missoula?

1783
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 4: Was it? You know?

1784
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 3: Obviously guys stepped up, But what was it?

1785
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 2: And I might have asked you this mark in one

1786
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: of our other hits, But what has he been able

1787
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 2: to do because you know, I just I think we

1788
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 2: all just kind of thought this was a throwaway year,

1789
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 2: and you know, you're not.

1790
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 3: And now they're sitting in second place in the East.

1791
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 2: We know that of course, Kate Cunningham has the very

1792
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 2: unfortunate injury that's going to keep him up for an

1793
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: extended period of time. And I'm just blown away by

1794
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 2: what they were able to do for the majority of

1795
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: the season without Jason Tatum.

1796
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, Joe Mizzoola I think is going to

1797
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,480
Speaker 9: win Coach of the Year because this was not expected.

1798
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 9: He's shown that he has been ready ever since taking

1799
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 9: the mantle from Emio Dooka. And you know, it might

1800
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 9: be easy to think, Okay, well you hair Jason Tatum,

1801
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 9: Jalen Brown. You know how hard is it's a coach,

1802
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 9: But this is a team that was really upset with

1803
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 9: the whole situation with Imaodoka. And you know, obviously there's

1804
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 9: reasons why they parted ways or you know, issues off

1805
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 9: the court with relationships, but they respected him as a

1806
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 9: head coach, and Joe Mazoola immediately showed that he was

1807
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 9: ready to go from assistant coach to head coach. He's

1808
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 9: very maniacal as we've seen with his personality, but he

1809
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 9: also knows when to dial it back. He's maniacal in

1810
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 9: his preparation, he's not maniacal with how he relates to players.

1811
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 9: It's very collaborative. It's very direct, direct, blunt enough that

1812
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 9: he gives them candid criticism, but he also knows how

1813
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 9: to build them up put that in positions to succeed.

1814
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 9: But I think you also have to give credit to

1815
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 9: the roster here. I mean Jalen Brown. I think as

1816
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 9: of now should be ranked third in MVP voting behind

1817
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 9: Shake Gojess Alexander and Victor Wambinyama, because he's shown he

1818
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 9: is a great two way player, dominant score but without

1819
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 9: diluting his playmaking role, and he's done a masterful job

1820
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 9: and being having the best season of his career but

1821
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 9: also elevating teammates around him. So yeah, they've hit on

1822
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 9: all the right buttons. And Jason Tatum's added bonus because

1823
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 9: he's a great talent. But he himself, ever since the

1824
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 9: championship run a few years ago, has been willing to

1825
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 9: adapt change his role for the betterment of the good.

1826
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 9: And this is the betterment for his body because even

1827
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 9: though he hasn't skipped up, so with his achilles rehab,

1828
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 9: it's a process to get back and swing things with

1829
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 9: conditioning and timing, rhythm, et cetera. That he's been willing

1830
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 9: to take a less is more approach.

1831
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,719
Speaker 4: Mark the rest of the East, I mean, obviously Boston,

1832
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 4: New York, there's a couple of teams there. But with

1833
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 4: Cunningham and his situation in Detroit, how are you kind

1834
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 4: of stacking up that conference as we're getting closer and

1835
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 4: closer to the end of the regular season.

1836
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the Pitsons get downgraded a fourth in

1837
01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 9: the Eastern Conference, not necessarily the standing where they rank

1838
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 9: on their way to the championship. Kate Huntingham, he was

1839
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,560
Speaker 9: in the MVP conversation, but even before his injury, I

1840
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 9: was having some problems with the Pistons because of their

1841
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 9: inconsistent three point shooting. They laid some eggs and some

1842
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 9: marquee games and Kate Huntingham didn't shoot the ball well.

1843
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 9: And he's had a great bounce back resilience type attitude.

1844
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 9: But for all the work he's put in with trying

1845
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:27,719
Speaker 9: to be a more efficient score and very his shot

1846
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 9: diet hasn't been good enough. So I put the Celtics

1847
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 9: because of all the things I've talked about just now

1848
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,799
Speaker 9: as the favorite to g out of the Eastern Conference

1849
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 9: of the NBA Finals. I put the Knicks behind them

1850
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 9: because they've been one of the best defensive teams in

1851
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 9: the past two years. They still have mostly the same

1852
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 9: core as last season. I think carl Anion Towns and

1853
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 9: Jaylen Brunson their chemistry is really good. I don't think

1854
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 9: there's too much fight over touches, give and take. They

1855
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 9: have the pick and roll game well. But I do

1856
01:33:56,160 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 9: have skepticism on Mechale Bridges Ogion Andobi Mitchell. Robinson's having

1857
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 9: health issues. I do like Mike Brown's coach coaching. He

1858
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 9: obviously has a pedigree, but I've been really skeptical about

1859
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 9: their third option, just their offense outside of Kat and Brunson.

1860
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 9: So I guess Cleveland will be third because Donovan Mitchell's

1861
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 9: playing really well. James Harden's a great addition and so far,

1862
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 9: so good with his chemistry with Mitchell, his proven track

1863
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 9: record with elevating big guys around him, in this case

1864
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 9: having Mobile and Jared Allen. But I just have the

1865
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 9: proved me wrong mentality when it comes to James Harden

1866
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 9: the postseason, because we've seen it time and time again

1867
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 9: him shrink in the biggest moments, whether it's injuries or

1868
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 9: performances or combination of both.

1869
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 2: As J Martin and I were on for Game seven,

1870
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 2: I believe it was of Denver Clippers last year. We

1871
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 2: are very familiar with James Hardens his work real quick

1872
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 2: last one for me, Mark, I don't know if J.

1873
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 2: Martin has anything else but expansion. Is that like officially

1874
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 2: official or not. I was a little confused to the

1875
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 2: reporting this week.

1876
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, that's what happens when there's about to be

1877
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 9: a Board of Governor's meeting because owners are trying to debate.

1878
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 9: I think that the cliff Notes version, it's inevitable it's

1879
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 9: going to happen. It's not inevitable that it's imminent. So

1880
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 9: it's going to happen. Seattle and Vegas are going to

1881
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 9: have the teams. I think it's just matter of when.

1882
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 9: And I think one of the sources of contention on

1883
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 9: when is two things. One, Seattle's getting it because they

1884
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 9: have the Sonics fan base. They got Screwhover when the

1885
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 9: franchise moved to ok See, Vegas. Even though it's a

1886
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 9: hot spot, the Vegas Summer League, the WNBA aces preseason

1887
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 9: games for both NBA teams Olympic teams. I think there's

1888
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 9: some short term angs on the economy because tourism took

1889
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 9: a hit. But I think the bigger thing, Aaron, is

1890
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 9: that when you add teams now all of a sudden,

1891
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 9: you have to share revenue with those teams. And I

1892
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 9: think not only do rich owners not like to share,

1893
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 9: but in fairness, they just negotiate this huge TV deal

1894
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:58,839
Speaker 9: and they're the ones that put in the sweat equity

1895
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 9: for it. Why should these franchise new franchises all of

1896
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 9: a sudden get a cut of it. So there's things

1897
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 9: to iron out, first world problems, but problems that they

1898
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 9: consider important.

1899
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 4: Mark. Ultimately, the NBA, like any sport, is an entertainment product.

1900
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 4: Just from that lens, Is it a good idea to

1901
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 4: expand Nothing against Seattle or Vegas. I'm fine with both

1902
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 4: those cities having teams, but I don't know that I'm

1903
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 4: sold on this league needing to expand to more teams.

1904
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 4: More like, maybe I'm wrong. You tell me, is this

1905
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 4: a good idea?

1906
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 9: I think it's good for business. I don't think it's

1907
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 9: good for basketball. I think it'll eventually be good for basketball,

1908
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 9: especially for the Seattle Sonics because they have that fan

1909
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 9: base and they'll want to commit toward being a winner.

1910
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 9: History shows that expansion teams usually go through growing pains initially,

1911
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,560
Speaker 9: but they often have success eventually, but it's going to

1912
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 9: come out of cost of either contraction to another team

1913
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 9: or just a diluted product. From a league wide perspective,

1914
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 9: and you can look at the league right now, it's

1915
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 9: obviously in good financial business shape. But when you're looking

1916
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 9: at the quality of play, it's really good for the contenders.

1917
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,799
Speaker 9: It's really good for the second tiers. I think playing

1918
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 9: has been good. I think some of the regular season

1919
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 9: games have been more meaningful than it has been in

1920
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 9: recent seasons. But you've also seen some really really bad

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Speaker 9: basketball with the teams that are really bad. I mean,

1922
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Speaker 9: you look at the Indiana Pacers, Washington Wizards, Brooklyn Nets,

1923
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Speaker 9: Chicago Bulls. I'm going down the line here, Sacramento, King's,

1924
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Speaker 9: Utah Jazz, Dallas Mavericks, Memphis Grizzlies, New Orleans Pelicans. That's

1925
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Speaker 9: about ten teams there that are really bad, and the

1926
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Speaker 9: only teams that have an excuse because it's injuries that

1927
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Speaker 9: are bad. It's New Orleans, Memphis, Dallas, and Indiana. The

1928
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Speaker 9: rest they were bad by design because of flawed rosters,

1929
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Speaker 9: because they want to get a top pick for this

1930
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Speaker 9: year's lottery. So yeah, short answer to right, good for business,

1931
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Speaker 9: short term bad for basketball.

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Speaker 3: He is Mark Medina.

1933
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Speaker 2: You can follow him at Mark g Underscore Medina and

1934
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Speaker 2: if you are listening here in the midst of the

1935
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament, he had a great look at this, you know,

1936
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 2: in addition all the normal NBA coverage, a great look

1937
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 2: at this NBA draft class as part of his coverage

1938
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Speaker 2: at essentially sports dot com.

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Speaker 3: Mark, we appreciate the time.

1940
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Speaker 2: We know we'll be not only hearing you on these airwaves,

1941
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Speaker 2: but we will be leaning on you as we get

1942
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Speaker 2: out of March and into April.

1943
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Speaker 3: Your busy time.

1944
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 2: Just Sti'll forget about little tours and Martin here at

1945
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Speaker 2: about eight pm every Saturday, Okay.

1946
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Speaker 9: I'll never forget about you guys, and appreciate the kind

1947
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Speaker 9: words from you, Aaron, considering your you know, one of

1948
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Speaker 9: the premiere college basketball gurus, so this has been your

1949
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Speaker 9: time to shine as always.

1950
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Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you. Mark and yeah, well, we'll be

1951
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Speaker 2: leaning on you heavily these next few months. Thank you

1952
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Speaker 2: for the time, and we will speak soon.

1953
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Speaker 9: Have a good night, guys.

1954
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Speaker 5: Take care.

1955
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 2: That was Mark Medina again. Follow him at Mark g

1956
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Speaker 2: Underscore Medina. We'll come back. When we do, we'll talk

1957
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 2: a little bit about what Mark had to say. We

1958
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 2: gotta start to look ahead to a loaded Sunday of

1959
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Speaker 2: college Oops. That's right, we're getting back to the busy

1960
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Speaker 2: Sunday in the world of college hoops.

1961
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Speaker 3: Eight more games.

1962
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Speaker 2: As jmart said earlier, there are zero double digit seed

1963
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Speaker 2: so we got a lot of intriguing games, close matchups,

1964
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Speaker 2: close points, spreads. It is gonna be fascinating. We'll discuss

1965
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Speaker 2: it all next preview this weekend of college hoops.

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Speaker 8: This is Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

1967
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Speaker 8: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at

1968
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Speaker 8: foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search

1969
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Speaker 8: FSR to listen live.

1970
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio er toris Jason Martin.

1971
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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios

1972
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Speaker 2: one twenty seven Eastern time. We're gonna start previewing Sunday's

1973
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 2: college oops games. By the way, if you you missed

1974
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 2: any of Saturday's college hoops games. Jmart and I did

1975
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 2: about an hour and a half of a deep dive

1976
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 2: on Arkansas on Duke on Gonzaga losing on the UNC

1977
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:10,839
Speaker 2: coaching situation.

1978
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Speaker 3: So make sure to lock in. Hey, you know what else?

1979
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Speaker 3: Need to lock in?

1980
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Speaker 2: With the iHeartRadio app, you could stream us wherever you

1981
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1982
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1983
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1984
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1985
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Speaker 2: and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one

1986
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 2: of your presets in the iHeart app so it will

1987
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 2: always pop up at the top of your screen.

1988
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Speaker 3: Eight games are.

1989
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Speaker 2: In the books from Saturday eight on Sunday, maybe the

1990
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 2: most intriguing one. Pray for the refs in Philadelphia, Yukon

1991
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 2: versus UCLA. We know that you know Mick Cronin has

1992
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: a lot of energy, especially for reporters.

1993
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Speaker 4: Extremely nice, congenial fellow.

1994
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Speaker 3: Are you raising your voice to me?

1995
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Speaker 9: Bro?

1996
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 2: Are you raising your voice to me? But here's the

1997
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 2: thing on the other sideline, as Dan Hurley, before we

1998
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 2: get to the preview, Jamrt. Mick Cronin was asked about

1999
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 2: the two seemingly not very happy coaches at a press

2000
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Speaker 2: conference on Saturday. Let me let me set this up

2001
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Speaker 2: to Brandon before you play it, He's asked by a

2002
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Speaker 2: local reporter who he's very comfortable with, because it's gonna sound.

2003
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 2: It's gonna start sounding like one of his angry Mick

2004
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 2: Cronin rants, But once he gets into it, it's actually

2005
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 2: very entertaining sound.

2006
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Speaker 3: Brandon and Mary, you could play the sound.

2007
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Speaker 4: Over the years. It's no secret that you and cul

2008
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 4: Charlie have kind of caught heat from the media about

2009
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 4: the kind of sideline and talking about.

2010
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Speaker 5: Sideline work working.

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Speaker 4: Have you given me a heat?

2012
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Speaker 7: I haven't, So that's why you're the only guy to

2013
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 7: pay attention to.

2014
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Speaker 5: Okay, well nobody else even Come on, National medium, National medium.

2015
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Speaker 7: Man, I die respect you come to the game, so

2016
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 7: I respect you. You know at least you're there. I

2017
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 7: mean people that aren't there.

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Speaker 5: I know you don't care about it, but do you

2019
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 5: think it's it's it's fair that you.

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Speaker 7: Have ridiculous Everybody needs to get a life, bro. Get

2021
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 7: a life, man. Come on, man, get a life, bro.

2022
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Speaker 7: You want to win big you think coach Hurley's not

2023
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 7: supposed to be intense, but you want to win. Come on, man,

2024
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Speaker 7: we're not We're not coaching little league, buddy. Everybody doesn't

2025
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 7: get in that bat, you know, come on, man, paying

2026
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 7: us a lot of money to win games.

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Speaker 3: You know over the that was McK cronan in the

2028
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Speaker 3: lead up. I thought it was entertaining sound to say

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Speaker 3: the least.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I'm guessing it's probably the first time you heard it,

2031
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Speaker 2: j mart Any instant reaction to Mick cronan, Come on, bro,

2032
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Speaker 2: they're paying us a lot of saying Bro.

2033
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Speaker 4: He's saying man a lot in a lot of these

2034
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,639
Speaker 4: cuts that we've heard during the course of the season. Yeah,

2035
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Speaker 4: I mean it was pretty entertaining, and what he says

2036
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 4: pretty much right in terms of like the point that

2037
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Speaker 4: he's making. He's gonna be real easy to fire him

2038
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Speaker 4: if they don't win. I don't mean tomorrow, I just

2039
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 4: mean generally speaking, because like he's not endearing himself, like

2040
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Speaker 4: you'd better be really good to be. I wouldn't even

2041
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 4: call that salty. That's just kind of like, I don't

2042
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Speaker 4: even know what I would describe that as, but it

2043
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 4: could it's very easy to dislike someone that puts themselves

2044
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 4: out there like that in such a non endearing way.

2045
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Speaker 2: It is, and you could obviously say the same for

2046
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 2: Dan Hurley, which I'll tell you no, of course not.

2047
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Mary, give us a little music.

2048
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 2: Let's actually talk about these games, and let's start with

2049
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 2: that one. We'll get to three or four of the

2050
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 2: big ones on Saturday or Sunday, excuse me, all eight

2051
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 2: games Saturday or of course final. Let me ask you this,

2052
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 2: j Mart, I think the Yukon UCLA game is essentially

2053
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 2: the toughest to handicap UCLA's starting You know, big Man

2054
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:55,560
Speaker 2: Tyler Billodeo did not play on Friday.

2055
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 3: Knee soreness.

2056
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 2: I do wonder if Mick Krona made it seem like

2057
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 2: throughout the week that he could have played in an emergency.

2058
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 2: And it's kind of the same with Silas Demery, Yukon's

2059
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 2: starting point guard. He did not play against Furman. Do

2060
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 2: you have any strong opinions on this one? Because I'll

2061
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 2: just be transparent, Yukon has listened as a four and

2062
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 2: a half point favorite. I just think because of those

2063
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 2: two guys coming off injuries, assuming that they play, I

2064
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 2: would not be surprised by anything. And we kind of

2065
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 2: joked about a tongue in cheek earlier, but Yukon needed

2066
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 2: every one of those thirty one points and twenty seven

2067
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 2: rebounds from Terras Reed to win on Friday night. They're

2068
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 2: going to be facing a much more formidable foe on Sunday.

2069
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 3: Again.

2070
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 2: Don't know if you have strong opinions on this one,

2071
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 2: but just curious for your perspective on Yukon Ucla.

2072
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they're gonna have to play much

2073
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 4: more consistent basketball than they did the other night. If

2074
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 4: they're going to be Ucla. I kind of I would

2075
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 4: just waver and call this almost to pick them game,

2076
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 4: just because I've listened to you talk about Yukon and

2077
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 4: so I've watched them in a different way over the

2078
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 4: last six seven weeks the regular season and just kind

2079
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 4: of like through that Lens, I just am not like

2080
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 4: particularly enamored with them. So I do think there's a

2081
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 4: lot of talent on that basketball team, and there's some

2082
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 4: guys that are used to winning that are part of

2083
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 4: that roster as well, like Caravan, But like, at the

2084
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 4: same time, they're right to get picked off and beaten here.

2085
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 4: They may not like I said, I think it's a

2086
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 4: pick them game. I think it's likely to be close

2087
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 4: that four and a half number. We could easily see

2088
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:32,759
Speaker 4: a game that's determined by five six points.

2089
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 2: Let's get to the other one that was super intriguing.

2090
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 2: You brought it up earlier, Saint John's Kansas. So Saint

2091
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 2: John's is a three and a half point favorite. Both

2092
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 2: of these teams are coming off Friday night win. Saint

2093
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 2: John's largely wasn't really competition against Northern Iowa. Kansas was

2094
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 2: in complete control against cal Baptists till about six minutes

2095
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 2: to go, then completely fell apart. Where do you lean

2096
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 2: on this when I think, I know, based on some

2097
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 2: of the stuff he said a minute ago.

2098
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 4: Saint John's, I think they're more complete. I think they're tougher,

2099
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 4: and just Patino has coached a very physical basketball team

2100
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 4: that seems to be gelling at the right time. And

2101
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 4: just look, we watched Darren Peterson again on Thursday, or

2102
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 4: on Friday night rather, and you know, there's some things

2103
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 4: that he does. They are spectacular, but he also has

2104
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 4: a ball in his hands an awful lot, and I

2105
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 4: tend to see a lot of possessions where Kansas players

2106
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 4: are sitting around watching him dribble the basketball, try to

2107
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 4: get himself open, find his way to the rim, you know,

2108
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:42,679
Speaker 4: take a shot. He's obviously offensively gifted in that regard.

2109
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:46,719
Speaker 4: But I don't see Kansas playing nearly as much team

2110
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 4: basketball as I do Saint John's. And unlike a lot

2111
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 4: of times where Peterson's gonna be good enough to be

2112
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 4: enough just on his own if he is playing all

2113
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 4: his minutes, I just think Saint John's is a different

2114
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 4: animal to face, and so that's that's why I fail them.

2115
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,719
Speaker 4: I just think that they will wear down Kansas.

2116
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 2: So I actually agree with you one hundred percent. I

2117
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:08,640
Speaker 2: know you said that you nearly picked Saint John's. He

2118
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 2: ended up taking Duke in the Sweet sixteen. I did

2119
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 2: take Saint John's. I believe in them. We'll see what

2120
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 2: happens with Duke. But I actually think this isn't much

2121
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 2: of a contest. And I'll be honest, like, well you

2122
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 2: said about DP is so correct? Is it was funny?

2123
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 2: Late night yesterday, I'm scrolling Twitter and I see people

2124
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 2: like gushing over Darren Peterson. I'm like shot eleven of

2125
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 2: twenty four from the field four of eleven from three,

2126
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 2: one assist, one turnover, like talented. But it wasn't some

2127
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't Darius Acuff tonight. It wasn't Terris Reid last night,

2128
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 2: of a guy just putting a team on his back,

2129
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,560
Speaker 2: and I thought it was interesting too late, you know,

2130
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 2: I will admit Kansas did not run the best offense

2131
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 2: late when they were struggling. But stan Van Gundy, you

2132
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 2: gotta put the ball in Darren Peterson's hands. And it's

2133
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 2: like they have another player named Melvin Council who who

2134
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 2: carried them for large stretches when Darren Peterson was out,

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01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 2: and he just feels like the guy that's kind of

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01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 2: been lost in the shuffle. Four points each of the

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01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,839
Speaker 2: last two games dating back to the Big twelve tournament.

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Speaker 2: And this was a guy that had, you know, thirty

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01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 2: six points against NC State earlier in the year, eighteen

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01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 2: points against Colorado, twenty three in that winover Arizona at

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01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 2: Fallallen Field House. I don't think they've ever really figured

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01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 2: out how to fully reintegrate Darren Peterson when he's playing

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01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 2: at full strength. I'm with you on Saint John's last game.

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01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 2: I really want your strong opinion on Kentucky Iowa State.

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01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 2: J Mart, I know you're probably wondering how did Kentucky

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01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 2: get to the suitees get to the round of thirty

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01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 2: two if you somehow did not see it on Thursday

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01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 2: or Friday, I.

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Speaker 5: Guess it was.

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01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 3: This is how it sounded.

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01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 4: Just Greaves.

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01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 2: Too and otega Oway three forced overtime, Kentucky won in overtime,

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01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 2: and it was Herb called a tome out. Oh you know,

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01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 2: this is why we need more than three hours on

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01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 2: a night like tonight. I thought Herb Sendek kind of

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01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,760
Speaker 2: sounded kind of weak. He kind of he basically said

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01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 2: like I needed time to set my defense, and it's

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01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 2: kind of like, I get it. They probably should have

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01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 2: awarded you the time out, but the ball got in quickly.

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01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 2: Once the ball's in play, there's nothing they can do.

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01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 2: And also, don't you practice all year for your players

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01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 2: to know what to do down three, up three with

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01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 2: three seconds to go.

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01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,759
Speaker 3: Like thought that was kind of weak. But what's interesting

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Speaker 3: about this game?

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01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 2: Otega Oway keeps Kentucky season alive by forcing overtime. They

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01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 2: win in overtime, then two minutes into the Iowa State game,

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Speaker 2: Iowa State's best player Joshua Jefferson goes down with a

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01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 2: nasty ankle sprain. He's walking around on the arena in crutches.

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01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 2: Multiple reports say he's unlikely to play on Sunday, and

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01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, Kentucky. I don't know

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01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 2: if they're going to win, but the pathway looks much

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01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 2: more manageable with Iowa State without a guy who everged

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01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 2: seventeen points, seven rebounds, and five assists this year.

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01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 3: Again another one. Do you have any strong opinions? Iowa State,

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01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 3: to their.

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Speaker 2: Credit, won by thirty four on Friday, But this game

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01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 2: feels a lot different to me with Iowa State star

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01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 2: player out.

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01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that makes it really hard to try

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01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 4: and get a feel for it. I know that the

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01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:40,600
Speaker 4: number would have been a lot different. What is it

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01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 4: a four and a half somewhere in that neighborhood. I mean,

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01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 4: oh way, if he goes off, if it's one of

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01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 4: those games for him, you know, they could easily win

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01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 4: this game. And this is one where Iowa State of

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01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 4: full strength. I would have had no problem suggesting them,

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01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 4: and I certainly had them and advanced them of my brain,

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01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 4: but I didn't have any you know wherewithal to know

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01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 4: that Jefferson was going to go down with that injury,

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01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 4: and if he's on crutches, it's hard to believe that

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01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 4: he's going to be able to contribute. Even if he

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01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 4: could get out on the floor, it would be very

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01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:17,640
Speaker 4: difficult for him in that circumstance. So I tend to

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01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 4: still think Iowa State just because I'm not very impressed

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01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 4: with Kentucky overall. But it is going. I don't feel

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01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:25,799
Speaker 4: good about it anymore.

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01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 2: I can say that I have no strong opinion either.

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01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 2: I will take Iowa State, but don't feel good about it.

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01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 2: You know who I do feel good about, Steve Disager.

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01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 2: Let's get it over to the news desk final time

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01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 2: this evening to Sega what is trending?

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01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 5: Hallo and I took the response from Herb Sendek, the

2204
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,759
Speaker 5: Santa Clara coach, was just that it's a likely spot

2205
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 5: in the game to be calling it.

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01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you should be looking to the coach after that.

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01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 4: It's kind of the argument, I think.

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01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, we had to finish with the Nebraska game in

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01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 5: Oklahoma City tonight. Corn Huskers a layup with two seconds

2210
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 5: left seventy four to seventy two lead Vandy shott at

2211
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 5: the bus from backcourt went in and out. Nebraska advances

2212
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 5: to a Sweet sixteen game against the winner of Sunday's

2213
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:10,520
Speaker 5: Florida Iowa matchup. Texas beat the three seed in the West, Gonzagas,

2214
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 5: seventy four to sixty eight. Texas has a Sweet sixteen

2215
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 5: matchup against the winner of Sunday's Purdue Miami contest. Arkansas

2216
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:20,719
Speaker 5: took the late game in Portland tonight, thirty six points

2217
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 5: for Darius Acuff. It'll win over High Point ninety four

2218
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 5: eighty eight. Illinois was tied late first half with VCU,

2219
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 5: but then the aline I put them away seventy six

2220
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 5: fifty five. Two seed Houston in the South won in

2221
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 5: fact an eighteen zero run for him in the first half.

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01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,640
Speaker 5: They won eighty eight to fifty seven against Texas, A

2223
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 5: and M. The Cougars are in the Sweet sixteen for

2224
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 5: the seventh straight time. They were in the final last year,

2225
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:48,879
Speaker 5: and Houston now plays in Houston for the Sweet sixteen

2226
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,600
Speaker 5: against Illinois that'll be not at their home arena, but

2227
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 5: at the NBA Arena there. In the Midwest Region, one

2228
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 5: seed Michigan started the day putting away Saint Louis ninety

2229
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 5: five seventy two. Michigan was up seven with twelve minutes

2230
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 5: to go. Michigan thirty three and three this season. Remember

2231
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 5: it Beacons Zaga by forty. Back in November, All American

2232
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:11,640
Speaker 5: Yaxel Lendeborg with thirty twenty five points. Michigan plays a

2233
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 5: sweet sixteen game against the winner of Sunday's Alabama Texas

2234
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 5: Tech matchup. Saint Louis is out. It's zero to six

2235
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 5: all time. In the second round, Saint Louis was allowing

2236
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 5: just thirty eight percent shooting from the floor this year,

2237
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:26,600
Speaker 5: Michigan shot fifty six percent against him. One seed in

2238
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 5: the East, Duke over TCU eighty one fifty eight in

2239
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 5: a game that was tied with fourteen minutes to go,

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01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 5: and then TCU only scored fourteen points in the last

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01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 5: fourteen minutes. TCU had one starter today shoot two for

2242
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 5: ten from the floor and another starter shoot one for ten.

2243
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 5: Duke will play the winner of Sunday's Saint John's Kansas game.

2244
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 5: Cameron Boozier had one shot in the first half today

2245
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:53,720
Speaker 5: and still finished with nineteen points eleven rebounds. In Greenville,

2246
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 5: South Carolina, Michigan States Jeremy fears sixteen assists in a

2247
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:01,600
Speaker 5: win against Louisville seventy seven sixty nine. Michigan State was

2248
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:03,400
Speaker 5: up twelve with two and a half minutes to go.

2249
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 5: Michigan State plays the winner of Sunday nights Yukon UCLA game.

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01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 5: This will be coach Tom izzo seventeen sweet sixteen appearance

2251
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:15,040
Speaker 5: at Michigan State. The NIT second round started with Dayton

2252
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 5: win at UNC Wilmington today and then Nevada's home win

2253
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 5: against Liberty. The NIT quarterfinals start Tuesday. First rounders in

2254
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 5: the women's NCAAs. Today, USC and overtime beat Clemson in

2255
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 5: South Carolina. Virginia in overtime eliminated Georgia, Syracuse, and Illinois

2256
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 5: each one. The Syracuse win was against Iowa State, which

2257
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 5: has center Audi Crooks. She had thirty seven points, but

2258
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 5: the team from three point range was three for twenty two.

2259
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 5: And then the three blowouts of note hardly the only

2260
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 5: three blowouts in women's hoops this week, but UCLA outscored

2261
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 5: cal Baptists in the second half fifty two to nine

2262
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 5: tonight and put them away ninety six forty three were

2263
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 5: the show of record for Yukon. There, Yeah, we are

2264
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 5: thirty five, and oh they were leading in the third quarter. Again,

2265
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 5: it's ut San Antonio fifty six to fourteen, ninety to

2266
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 5: fifty two to the final. And then there's one seed

2267
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 5: South Carolina which was hosting Southern and for some reason

2268
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 5: this was on national television. One O three thirty four

2269
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 5: was the final. South Carolina outscored him in the third

2270
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 5: quarter thirty two to two. Southern shot eighteen percent from

2271
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 5: the floor, twelve baskets on the day, twelve for sixty

2272
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 5: five with twenty turnovers. Southern U was down with eight

2273
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 5: and a half minutes to go eighty four to twenty one.

2274
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 5: In the NBA, Oklahoma City won it's eleventh straight, Lakers

2275
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 5: on a last second three won They're ninth straight. Clippers

2276
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 5: won in overtime. Houston won on a last second tip

2277
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 5: in San Antonio sent Indiana to a sixteenth straight loss.

2278
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 5: Late game went to Milwaukee one eight one oh five

2279
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 5: at Phoenix. And in spring baseball, the Braves beat the

2280
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 5: Red Sox six' one, the win to Chris Sail six

2281
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 5: innings of work, beating Garrett Crochet Detroit down the Yankees behind.

2282
01:55:58,560 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 5: From Bervaldez Beck to you.

2283
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Sagre to Sagre, have a

2284
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,879
Speaker 2: great evening. I assume you'll be back here on Sunday.

2285
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 2: Mark Willardy from Salaam, Chris Plank, and Arnie Spaniard, speaking

2286
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 2: of which Chris Plank is following us tonight. We got

2287
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 2: one segment left and we'll toss it over to Chris Plank.

2288
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 2: This is aertorus Jason Martin.

2289
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

2290
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:28,360
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2291
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:32,480
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2292
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 3: Ten minutes from now. Chris Plank will follow us.

2293
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 2: Cannot wait to hear what Plank has to say about

2294
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 2: a great day of NCAA tournament basketball. Plank a true

2295
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 2: college basketball nut, just like me and Jay mart and

2296
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:48,120
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2297
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:50,680
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Speaker 2: get off air. All right, I'm gonna do something a

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01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 2: little bit different here to wrap the show. The famed

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01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 2: flag football games a right, so Tom Brady was supposed

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01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 2: to do no no, no no. Deutsch has an interesting

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01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 2: angle on it. So it was this flag football game

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01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 2: was supposed to be in Saudi Arabia, got played. I

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01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 2: think here in La Deutsch. Give us the details and

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01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 2: why people should care about the result. It was actually

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01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 2: interesting when you explained it out to me.

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01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 10: I think, look, they're lucky that this game was being

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01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 10: played during March Madness, so there weren't as many eyes,

2316
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 10: but people watched it. People saw Jalen Hurt's throw interception.

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01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 10: People he threw a pick six, and so did Joe Burrow.

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01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:51,240
Speaker 10: These are against professional flag football players, not NFL players,

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01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 10: and the argument from the NFL players the people standing

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01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 10: up for them side. They lost this game, by the way,

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01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 10: combined eighty two to twenty seven, there were three different teams.

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01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 10: Team USA played the Founders and then they played another team,

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01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 10: and one team had Tom Brady and Joe Burrow and

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01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 10: another team had Jane Daniels basically, and they bulldozed both

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01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 10: of those teams. Daniels are Hurts, well, Daniels was on

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01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 10: one team, Hurts was on another team. Daniels played fine,

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01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 10: but basically combined Team USA be two teams eighty two

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01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 10: to twenty seven combined. And the issue with this is

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01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 10: these NFL players were talking for a while like, oh,

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01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 10: we're gonna thinking about playing in the twenty twenty eight

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01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 10: Olympics in flag football, and I get that. Logan Paul

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01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 10: was out there and I show speed some YouTubers and

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01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:42,520
Speaker 10: stuff like. It wasn't all NFL pros, right, there were

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01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 10: some retired guys too, but they got spanked and against

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01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:49,960
Speaker 10: the real Team USA team that's you know, aiming for

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01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 10: the roster spot in twenty twenty eight. So the NFL

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01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 10: players got embarrassed today. This is the few that were playing.

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01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:57,600
Speaker 10: That's a big issue.

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01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 3: Let me jump in hohoshdu Set, who is apparently the

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01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 3: best quarterback.

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01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 2: This was the guy, you know whenever they announced there

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01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 2: was going to be flag football, and I think it

2343
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:08,920
Speaker 2: was like Lamar Jackson, Patrick ma Hohomes like oh, I

2344
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 2: want to be on Team USA. And this guy Darryl

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Speaker 2: Houshtu set and he said it again today that basically

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Speaker 2: those guys don't know the game like we do. And

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I was kind of one of those

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Speaker 2: guys that just kind of brushed off, like, oh cool,

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Speaker 2: this five to seven guy that thinks he's good at

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Speaker 2: flag football. I think Patrick Mahomes could figure it out.

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Speaker 2: I bring it up if the NFL players lost eighty

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Speaker 2: two to twenty seven or whatever. I think there's an

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Speaker 2: argument to the dudes that do this for a living,

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Speaker 2: to the degree that you can and I'm not being sarcastic,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can make a living playing

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Speaker 2: flag football. It seems pretty clear that there is a

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Speaker 2: skill set that it takes time to develop that you

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Speaker 2: can't necessarily just develop by having played in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of an interesting angle considering

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Speaker 2: the NFL players wanted to do it jam or anything quick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I think it's good for flag football generally.

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Speaker 4: Just will off. It's a story that would make you

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Speaker 4: talk about flag football at all. But it's like, okay,

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Speaker 4: so there's something different about this and it does require

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Speaker 4: something else. And I did see an article or two

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Speaker 4: that we're talking about well, you know, they don't understand

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Speaker 4: the rules and everything quite yet, and it would take

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Speaker 4: them some times, like we don't need damage control for

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Speaker 4: the rich professional NFL players and Hall of famers, like

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be okay in this. But it is good

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Speaker 4: for them to just think that they could waltz in

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Speaker 4: and just do this to find out that there's actually

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Speaker 4: a lot more that goes into this than they thought,

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Speaker 4: and there's a reason why Team USA would be the

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Speaker 4: one representing as opposed to them in the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Shout out Darryl whoshod you set flag football. Didn't know

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Speaker 2: we'd make it into the show, but we got to

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Speaker 2: get out of here. Want to thank the crew for

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Speaker 2: my partner, Jason Martin. I'm meritoris. Thank you to Mary mac,

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Speaker 2: Thank you to Brandon Deutsch, Thank you to Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned. Chris plank is coming up next. Plank is

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Speaker 2: the man. Can't wait to hear what he has to say.

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