WEBVTT - Early Free Agency Recap

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of this League, we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>respond to the first wild forty eight hours of NBA

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<v Speaker 1>free agency. Cannot wait until Friday. Things are moving all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place and it has been a fun ride.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots to go over, winners and losers, drop the beat

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<v Speaker 1>to take care and I said, you'll be waiting for.

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<v Speaker 3>Clean never stop.

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<v Speaker 4>We got the grand.

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<v Speaker 2>NiFe go, let me go, there we go, cap going.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty one free agency has been wild. I covered

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<v Speaker 2>first hour of it on TikTok Live.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a slew of information coming at me

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<v Speaker 1>from Shams and woj and fucking Chris Haynes and random

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Henry Abbotts.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single minute felt like.

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<v Speaker 1>Something new was going on and deal terms and boom

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<v Speaker 1>boom boom, boom boom. At this point, before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into winners and losers, few free agent issues and still

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<v Speaker 1>need to be solved. We still don't have any word

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<v Speaker 1>about what Kawhi is doing, despite the fact that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has said he expects to come back to the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure why it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday, at twelve thirty pm, Chris Paul signed his huge deal,

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<v Speaker 1>which we will get into. Of course, Marty should be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Four years, one hundred and twenty million dollars. The rumor

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<v Speaker 1>was that the Hornets were trying to pry him away

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<v Speaker 1>for one hundred million, which is just fucking or not

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<v Speaker 1>Hornets Pelicans, excuse me, which is you see the Hornets

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<v Speaker 1>his former team.

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<v Speaker 2>As if a fucked up sort of, it's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>his former team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the Browns and the and the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens and like the franchises.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, no, I think technically he's still part of

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<v Speaker 3>the Charlotte Hornets, like franchise history. But still yeah, now

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<v Speaker 3>former team, and it's always great news when GM's leak

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<v Speaker 3>moves they tried to make. That means the state of

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<v Speaker 3>the Pelicans is very.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, very very We almost had Chris Paul if the

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<v Speaker 1>Suns didn't end up going and paying them. So they

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<v Speaker 1>paid Chris Paul, which was inevitable we thought. But I

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<v Speaker 1>still know Khy still no Kuhi, very weird, Dinwittie. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to the Wizards, but that's very complicated

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a sign and trade situation. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough money to just pay him out right and he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to the Wizards via the scrap Heap aka

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<v Speaker 1>the Oklahoma City Thunder, probably taking Kuzma's contract on and

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<v Speaker 1>probably having to give them a twenty twenty five pick

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<v Speaker 1>because they owe the twenty twenty three first round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only way that it can't be unprotected is

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<v Speaker 1>if Sam Presty says is actually doing the deal to

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<v Speaker 1>because they'll get twenty twenty five and twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>so it'll be like they're like trickle down, hard to explain,

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<v Speaker 1>very complicated.

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<v Speaker 3>Kruzma and Okac would be so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's exactly what I've said forever, Like if

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<v Speaker 3>he played on any other team, no one would know

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<v Speaker 3>his name, and he's just going to fade so beautifully

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<v Speaker 3>into obscurity and I never have to hear his name again.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be so lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie Jackson, we still don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bulls need to move Lori Markanen or they need

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<v Speaker 1>to let him go for free. That's like a big

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<v Speaker 1>free agent that no one's really talking about. And Kelly Ubre,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what's gonna happen with him, And then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis Shuter just eroding into dust, just eroding into dust.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody on Twitter was like, took my old take and

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<v Speaker 1>they quote tweeted it and like white woman telling black

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<v Speaker 1>man what his worth is and it's like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything. Yeah, all I'm doing is really illuminating what

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<v Speaker 1>the market looks like for Dennis Shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not good. I think he gets like ten million.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean no, it's looking very bad. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about it in the preview episode where it

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<v Speaker 3>was just this point guard like Russian Roulette, and the

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<v Speaker 3>two guys like left at the end of it are

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<v Speaker 3>Dennis Shreuter and Reggie Jackson. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think Reggie Jackson might just come back

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<v Speaker 1>first scraps to the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's fine, but like what is Yeah anyway, anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the winners and losers CP three Biggest Winner just

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<v Speaker 1>just thirty seven, right, thirty seven, thirty six about to

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<v Speaker 1>be thirty seven started the next season, and by the

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<v Speaker 1>time this deal is up, he'll be fucking Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be forty one at the at the expiration day

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<v Speaker 1>to this deal. He's getting one hundred and twenty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars just like we thought in the middle of I

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<v Speaker 1>think it came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Right before the playoffs, maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>When he said he was going to turn down The

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<v Speaker 1>rumors were he was going to turn down that forty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars maybe the first round.

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<v Speaker 3>Or something like that. But the fourth year is a

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<v Speaker 3>team option, which people haven't been broadcasting as much as

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<v Speaker 3>they should.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Three, so it's really a three year deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Allen five years, one hundred million, shitload of money. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the Cavs doing Evan Mobley and him?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Lonzo Ball paid four years eighty five million to the Bulls. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>then DeRozan three years eighty five What did I say

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<v Speaker 1>he should not take less because if he takes less

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<v Speaker 1>now he's never getting money again.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did exactly what he should have done, is.

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<v Speaker 1>Find the highest bidder with the best situation for him

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<v Speaker 1>to put up lots of minutes, lots of bucket buckets.

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<v Speaker 2>They also then.

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<v Speaker 1>Signed Alex Caruso the Chicago Bulls to four years thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, four years thirty seven. Wow, I can't believe I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that. So four years thirty seven. So now it's

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<v Speaker 1>Alice Caruso.

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<v Speaker 3>They're doing my philosophy of like just a score million points.

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<v Speaker 1>Score million points, but also have a contingency plan in

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<v Speaker 1>place to still have guys that can get you a bucket.

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<v Speaker 1>When your number one bucket has to go, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Colvine.

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<v Speaker 2>Zack Levine has to go.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to pay him the supermax, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what Zach Clovine wants, so he's probably gonna get end

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<v Speaker 1>up getting traded for more pieces. So Lourie Mark and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'll obviously get moved for something of value.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like what the Chicago Bulls are doing. Karnisovas

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<v Speaker 1>is making moves, So that's a winner. Duncan Robinson five years,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety million to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>With the Heat.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, what a success story.

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<v Speaker 2>What is success story? Where did he go to Wesleyan?

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<v Speaker 2>What was his first college?

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<v Speaker 1>He went to seventy three tiny ass liberal arts school

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of bumfuck New England and then transferred

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<v Speaker 1>to Michigan and fucking made a run in the tournament

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<v Speaker 1>and then ended up in a great situation and plays

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<v Speaker 1>his role very well. And now he's just worth one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars. Put that in the bank invest that

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<v Speaker 1>in some Doache cooin and off you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fella.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcaster fellow podcaster broke it on the podcast, which I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was tremendous. Norm Powell staying with the Blazers for

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<v Speaker 1>five years ninety million dollars. A lot of guys signing

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<v Speaker 1>five year, ninety million dollar deals. Everybody says, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>when you see six guys get paid all five years

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<v Speaker 1>for ninety what you know what that is is GM's

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<v Speaker 1>all getting on a group chat and saying that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the market for these guys is.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen million. Derreck Rose stays with the Knicks three years,

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<v Speaker 2>forty three million. Love that for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Trent three years fifty four million, same deal, eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>extensions for Curry extensions.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, the Curry extension. That Curry extension fifty two million

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<v Speaker 3>a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, five years, four and one cause he's got one

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<v Speaker 1>year left, four years, two hundred and fifteen million dollars. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Shay gets his bag five years, one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two million. That was shocking to me. Not shocking from

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<v Speaker 1>like a make sense standpoint, but a shocking from did

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City actually like I didn't know Oklahoma City would

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no, it was I guess. I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta like having Shay on your team, and right

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe all that shit was just like smoke.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Trey Young five years, two hundred and eight million.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys all getting their their bags. Also, John Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>I just was reading it. John Collins gets twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars a year?

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<v Speaker 3>Did he sign it?

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<v Speaker 1>He just it just happened, like maybe an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens, So we're good. So then the winners, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of I think for teams, I think the Heat

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<v Speaker 1>are huge winners.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Lowry getting Kyle Lowry makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they give Butler the Brinks truck for what is it,

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<v Speaker 1>four years, one eighty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry so joins him Duncan Robinson then and then

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<v Speaker 1>they get him on an extension, which they had to

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<v Speaker 1>do because of the they have his Berg rights and

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't gonna be able to sign anyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got PJ. Tucker, which the world.

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone watched, listen to this pod religiously, I am

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest PJ. Tucker fan, like to get him for

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<v Speaker 1>two years and fifteen million dollars. He's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that will straight up punch Jimmy Butler in the

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<v Speaker 1>mouth like he.

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<v Speaker 2>Will in practice just tell him to shut the fuck up.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see his ig post man?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? That I have that uh in here too, let's

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<v Speaker 1>find that. So he said this because PJ. Tucker thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to come back to the Bucks. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think I thought he was going to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bucks, did you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Pretty much everyone everyone thought he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>come back. And Bobby.

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<v Speaker 1>Opposite, Well, Bobby Ports took less money. He took two

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<v Speaker 1>years for nine h PJ. Tucker quote, Wow, he puts

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<v Speaker 1>this on ig. I'm still a little loss for words,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, still shook, but it is what it

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<v Speaker 1>is today. Took a hard turn on the road of

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<v Speaker 1>my career. But like my grandma used to tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>all you can control is what you can control without

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<v Speaker 1>being said Milwaukee, and then he makes sure to say

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Milwaukee, not the Milwaukee Buck, because fucked

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks right now is what he's on. You will

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<v Speaker 1>never fully understand what the city means to me. Our

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<v Speaker 1>time together, however, short will hold some of the best

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<v Speaker 1>memories of my life forever. You took me in, had

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<v Speaker 1>my back throughout our journey, and I will for always

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<v Speaker 1>be grateful and hold you near to my heart. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>thank y'all enough. We will always be dogs. Yeah that

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<v Speaker 1>was sad, but I love that For the Heat, love yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>love it. They get a guy who's gonna be rough

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<v Speaker 1>and tough, get you with the defense, get you with

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<v Speaker 1>the three pointer. The question that I have. They also

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<v Speaker 1>got Mark if Morris. They signed Dwayne Deadman. Uh yeah, trash.

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<v Speaker 1>They subtract Goran Dragig Kendrick Nunn Oladipo, which trash, trash, trash.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So to me, who is gonna guard?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they have a player right now that can actually

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<v Speaker 1>check Joe lmbeat.

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<v Speaker 2>Or check yohness.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean the answer is no.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do at that point?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, So I think that they still have

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<v Speaker 2>some work to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're maybe it's team defense, like maybe it's BAM

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<v Speaker 1>with PJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker kind of like going back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean there's gonna be a lot put on BAM.

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<v Speaker 1>Law unnecessary pressure on BAM like the Heat success.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the Heat a top three team in the East,

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<v Speaker 2>right now this is the.

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<v Speaker 3>Top of my head. I mean, okay, Brooklyn Bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, then for sure three But like they're flirting,

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<v Speaker 2>are they they're top five?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be interesting the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 1>For a while, I thought to myself, what the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>are the Knicks up to? This is not making sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You get rid of Reggie Bullock, which is fine. You

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<v Speaker 1>picked up the Frenchman for four years, seventy eight million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>which is absurd, contract absurd. He was not good for

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<v Speaker 1>the Boston Celtics. He was so not good for the

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<v Speaker 1>Boston Celtics that they wouldn't resign him and they would

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<v Speaker 1>rather have Josh Richardson. Okay, and then you signed he

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<v Speaker 1>rose love the signing sign Alec Brooks didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that was about.

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<v Speaker 2>Did not know because I think he got ten million.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he played well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a lot of money though for just a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>just a guy. Neurlans know what I like.

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<v Speaker 1>But nothing really moved me until today, until the Oklahoma

0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.040
<v Speaker 1>City Thunder pulled what I would consider to be a

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<v Speaker 1>mench move in buying out Kemba Walker and letting.

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<v Speaker 2>Him go back home to New York City. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, no matter what, because we know that Kemba

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<v Speaker 1>Walker's washed, right, like we know that he's not healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that he's not healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he and d Rose kind of spelling each

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<v Speaker 3>other could work. Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when he has those spurts. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>averaged like nineteen and a half points a game last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he didn't forget how to score. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows how to score. It's just like he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to stay on the court. And as long

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<v Speaker 1>as he and d Rose kind of play ham and egg,

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<v Speaker 1>like you sit these three games, I sit that those

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<v Speaker 1>three games, I think they're going to be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that move me too, I love that move.

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers, ah Man, I don't know. It's hard for me

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what this. Are they winners or are

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<v Speaker 1>they losers? TV continued.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean so many people are talking about now that

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<v Speaker 3>they're like instant like favorites to come out of the West,

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<v Speaker 3>and they may be like in Vegas at the start

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<v Speaker 3>of the year, but I don't really look at it

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<v Speaker 3>that way. I think they're probably favorites to get the

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<v Speaker 3>one seed. But again, like we've seen the problems Westbrook

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<v Speaker 3>poses in the playoffs, and yeah, no, I I think

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<v Speaker 3>if I had to like make a prediction right now,

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<v Speaker 3>this Lakers team is the one seed and they lose

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<v Speaker 3>in either the second round or conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Finals, they're like a they're like the Jazz. They're basically

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<v Speaker 1>like the New Jazz in the fact that like they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be the one seed and they'll flame out. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this that the Lakers went full sickle mode. I might

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<v Speaker 1>take all my exes and all put them in a group.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like basically basically.

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<v Speaker 2>What they did.

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<v Speaker 1>They brought Wayne Ellington back, they brought Trevor Ariza Beck,

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<v Speaker 1>they brought Dwight Howard Beck, they brought marcasol Beck, Baysmore

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<v Speaker 1>Baysmore Beck.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's a wild wild turn event.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have now Russell Westbrook for forty, Trevor for

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<v Speaker 1>two point six. Everybody's taking minimums two point six, two

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<v Speaker 1>point six, two point six, two point six, one point

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<v Speaker 1>eight for Malik Monk. Wow, Malik Monk got UNDERPAIDA did

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<v Speaker 1>he not?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Portland couldn't have gotten Elik Monk for fucking more

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<v Speaker 1>money than that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we'll never know what he was thinking. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he just like really wanted to go there, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>wild at that point in your career. Yeah, Like, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean maybe the market was just nothing for him, which

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<v Speaker 3>is weird. Yeah, I don't know that surprised me.

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<v Speaker 2>Warnants were like he was way too inconsistent. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>keeping that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So remember I said, I think they're gonna let him go,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, I think maybe Michael Jordan wants to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the guy that he picked.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but he basically got a minimum contract like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why, I guess they just want book Knight to have

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<v Speaker 1>more touches and more ability to not feel pressure from

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<v Speaker 1>this guy that he drafted and and him kind of

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<v Speaker 1>putting pressure on them to get mints.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the thing that's interesting about the Lakers is this,

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<v Speaker 1>they did everything that they needed to do with Westbrook,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still not satisfied. Like they they went out

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<v Speaker 1>and got all those shooters they did, Like Mellow shot

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<v Speaker 1>forty thirty and forty percent the last two.

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<v Speaker 2>Seasons in Portland from three.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, then you've got Baysmore shot forty one percent on threes,

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<v Speaker 1>Monk shot forty percent on threes, Ellington forty two percent

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<v Speaker 1>on threes. Kendrick Nunn thirty eight percent on a high

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<v Speaker 1>volume of threes, Gossaw forty one percent on threes.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet when you've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a d Braun Westbrook and Taylor Horton Tucker who

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<v Speaker 1>came back for a lot of money, you're only gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have one shooter, one real shooter on the floor at

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<v Speaker 1>a time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we could see some interesting lineups, but at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time it's Vogel, so maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That is exactly where my mind went, was, like, they

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of shooters.

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<v Speaker 2>The second unit could be really fun. The second unit

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<v Speaker 2>could actually be in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>More potent offensively, probably a SIEV defensively. But okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>put Russell Westbrook out there, Mark Gasol and a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of shooters and like.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just kicking out. He's driving and kicking out to

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<v Speaker 2>like three.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate that. But it all falls on Vogel.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Kidd is gone. He's gone either the real coach

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy's gone, and now the substitute teacher's in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know how much I trust

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<v Speaker 1>Vogel because this is a very complicated set. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a roster that's very complex to me, the rotations are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be key. Who are you putting together? How

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<v Speaker 1>does that all fit defensively and offensively?

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<v Speaker 2>This could be a fucking mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And one of my thoughts was like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how Ad like never wants to be like

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<v Speaker 3>a pure five. He wants to like have another besides it.

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<v Speaker 3>But like Peleika was kind of like, well, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to look at some points like because who else?

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<v Speaker 3>Who else?

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise the spacing is going to be totally fucked Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just no one else to play with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Marcus all can't play the entire time and Dwight, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't start.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that Dwight's not starting.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they have no ability to start anyone else but

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<v Speaker 1>Ad at the five. It's like starting at the five, Ad,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like fuck. So I'm really interested to see

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<v Speaker 1>this because I think they've got so many shooters and

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<v Speaker 1>yet are still going to be a below average three

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<v Speaker 1>point shooting team by mid season. That's what's crazy, because

0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.959
<v Speaker 1>there's only gonna be one good shooter on the team

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<v Speaker 1>at a time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the games it's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be They're finally gonna be fun. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's also gonna be like high highs lo los, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be some some nights where Russell Westbrook shoots

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<v Speaker 1>four for twenty four. Lebron is like putting a team

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<v Speaker 1>on his back. He's maybe ice in his ankle, like

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<v Speaker 1>you got Waynellington getting a huge minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be the year of the Lebron subtweet correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct where he's like talking about Championship DNA. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>all old, they're all old as fuck. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>really really fun again. Chicago Bulls, I think they're they're fun,

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<v Speaker 1>they're interesting. Uh, Zach Lavine, I think he leaves just because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love the fact Caruso and Damar and Lonzo

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor, Like you could play Lonzo at two,

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<v Speaker 1>or you could play Lonzo one and Alex Kruce off

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<v Speaker 1>the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've got no depth, zero depth.

0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:10.960
<v Speaker 1>At this point, it's Lonzo, Levine, Damar, Patrick Williams, Vooch

0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and then Caruso, Kobe White, Lori Markin and who's gone

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<v Speaker 1>and some newbies and Denzel Valentine. So this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is a fun ass starting five, and once the starting

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<v Speaker 1>five is gassed, you've got a bunch of like schmos

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<v Speaker 1>shmos to me, losers, let's go into it. God damn,

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on with Golden State.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it was bad. I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, congratulations to Steph getting his money well deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>Big filating article from Marcus Thompson today in The Athletic

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<v Speaker 1>that basically Steph is saying, Hey, if I didn't sign

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<v Speaker 1>off and like what the Warriors were doing, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have signed this long term deal for two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen million dollars. I would have just gone and lost

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<v Speaker 1>sixty million dollars go elsewhere. That's a lie, folks, That's

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<v Speaker 1>a lie. One hundred percent of lie. He needs to

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<v Speaker 1>say this, that's like probably what was a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the rider of the deal getting done, like this one

0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.399
<v Speaker 1>on one with Marcus Thompson to say I have complete

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in Rob or in Joe lacub and Bob Myers.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't. You just don't, so, okay, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>When I knew it was bad was when Kent Basmore

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<v Speaker 1>took less money to play for the Lakers. Camp Basmore

0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:30.199
<v Speaker 1>and Steph Curry are friends. Camp Basemore shot forty one

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<v Speaker 1>percent from three camp Besmore got high high lows in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of his minutes, like he had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>roller coaster moments and he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, fuck that, I am gone.

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<v Speaker 1>This Lakers team with guys that were in their primes

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve, they have a better shot than doing

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<v Speaker 1>anything than Steph Curry and Klay Thompson.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I think losing out on Nick Patoom another sign that

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<v Speaker 1>warned that kind of like set alarm bells a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got guy who should go there that decided they

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<v Speaker 1>will not be going there. They lost out on trading

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Uber during the season, and now it looks like

0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:11.760
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna get shipped for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, yeah, who's taking them.

0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.720
<v Speaker 1>They lost that on Patty Mills. Patty Mill said no,

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:22.160
<v Speaker 1>he went to the nets to me, to me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. Now they're trying to do a Joe Ingles

0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:25.120
<v Speaker 1>sign and trade with Kelly Ubra.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. So where is this team in your opinion?

0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's unless there's like trades come in. I mean, yeah,

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.440
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be ugly. It's gonna be ugly. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be a lot of infighting, which I mean there has

0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.600
<v Speaker 3>been a lot of infighting, you know for the last

0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:44.440
<v Speaker 3>two seasons since KD left. So yeah, no, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be ugly season, I think unless they figure out a

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<v Speaker 3>way to move some of their young guys.

0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.879
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and they don't seem committed to doing that

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<v Speaker 2>in any way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, they don't. And yeah no I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>it happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just very curious why more people don't see this disaster,

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<v Speaker 1>like right in front of them. People just love Steph,

0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 1>they just love stuff. They just want to see him

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:09.200
<v Speaker 1>be Batman, and like he can't do that. He's so

0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.200
<v Speaker 1>sloppy with the rock in crunch time when he doesn't

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.959
<v Speaker 1>have anyone around him. Like if you think Klay Thompson

0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:18.000
<v Speaker 1>is going to be exactly who he was without before

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:23.119
<v Speaker 1>acl and Achilles tears, I just are on opposite legs.

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I just don't know what to tell ya.

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, I mean he's not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. And like Andy Luce said the other day,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he may be like the Clay Thompson of old,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's not gonna be the Clay Thompson bold for

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five minutes a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not, And he's not going to be a Clamps

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:37.600
<v Speaker 2>defender on the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell no on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is kind of what Clay was making his

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<v Speaker 1>money on. He got paid big money and hasn't played

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<v Speaker 1>for two years and maybe it won't be back until January,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of like, man, I just see this

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<v Speaker 1>being if there was one team that I could bet on,

0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 1>if Vegas had like the disaster team of.

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<v Speaker 2>The year, I would bet on the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder what their win told.

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<v Speaker 2>Is going to be forty. I think they sit the

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<v Speaker 2>line at forty. Yeah, forty three, maybe forty three.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the under.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the under. Forty is a tough, tough line,

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.439
<v Speaker 2>and forty is the line that makes me say.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty three, I'll hop on the under, but forty forty

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<v Speaker 3>is a tough line.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I think that's what it would be, all right,

0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee Bucks losers. Really, I just think like they should

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<v Speaker 1>have done everything that they could to to break bring

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<v Speaker 1>back PJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like, if you say, okay, who.

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<v Speaker 1>Is more impactful the net series, Bobby Portis was getting

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>DMPs and PJ was locking down Katie locking down quote unquote,

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:42.760
<v Speaker 1>he still put up fifty piece.

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<v Speaker 2>But like without PJ on that team, they don't get

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<v Speaker 2>past the nets. They just do not.

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.280
<v Speaker 1>So I think losing him will be a much bigger

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 1>deal than we think. But like the Bucks are still great,

0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>they're still doing well that they didn't lose anyone really

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<v Speaker 1>of value. They're gonna get Dante Vincenzo back from me, like,

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>they're still going to be the favorites to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the finals.

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I think again, I.

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Think getting Bobby back for nothing it's huge.

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I just like PJ a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether the Portland Trailblazers care about Damian Lillard.

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like yeah, yeah, tough moves, no moves.

0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Bad moves. I said this on Twitter.

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, they really don't give a fuck, because

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 1>when you when Damian Lillard says we need to upgrade

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.680
<v Speaker 1>this roster to make it a championship roster, and your

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>response is picking up Cody Zeller and Ben Macklemore and

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the big the big pickup being Tony Snell.

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 3>These were all twenty thirteen draft class members. I think

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about Snell, but Zeller and mackilmore were

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 3>and that's one of the noted worst draft classes of

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<v Speaker 3>the laws in.

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<v Speaker 1>My mouth and swallow it back in Like that's where

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I was, like, I'm so angry and the only way

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 1>this makes sense, Like these are all pieces that you

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>put around a championship team as role players, Like these

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 1>are all guys that you're like, Oh, if the Bucks

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>signed Tony Snell, you'd be like, oh, he could be

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>like a Bobby Portis, Like Bobby Portas doesn't move the

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.719
<v Speaker 1>needle unless Bobby Portas is on a championship team, right,

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Like Cody Zeller, great backup guy to get you better

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>defense than Enis Kanter. Okay, cool, cool, cool cool. Ben

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 1>mcilmore can shoot corner threes.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool cool cool? But like, what are we doing with

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the shooting guard position because you have CJ.

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>McCollum and Norm Powell that both plays shooting guard one

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>guy six y five, one guy sixty three.

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 3>I know who I want to who do you want

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:36.640
<v Speaker 3>playing shooting guard?

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean is it not CJ?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I want Norm Powell, and I want CJ gone.

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I want CJ fucking gone. Now I want Pascal Siakam Yesterday.

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the move that everybody is saying that the

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Blazers are trying to do because Norm Powell doesn't want

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to play three, he doesn't want to play small forward.

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>His natural position is shooting guard. CJ's natural position is

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<v Speaker 1>shooting guard. Yeah, And truthfully, one guy's making eighteen million,

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the other guy's making thirty million, and I don't really

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>give a fuck about the friendship anymore.

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I want him gone. Like until he's gone, this team

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>is not going anywhere.

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 1>This team is in eight seed, six seed, like they're

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>gone their first on exit, Like Damian Lillard.

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Is gonna be so mad.

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be so bad through the trade deadline and

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Nurkic deal that hasn't gotten done.

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.959
<v Speaker 2>So I'm so mad at what the Portlandreia Blazers are doing.

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:24.120
<v Speaker 2>They're doing fucking nothing.

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>They're doing about as much as the Dallas Mavericks, which

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 1>signing Reggie buck Gross fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, resigning

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Tim Hardaway, fine, Willie Cally signed, Fine, Bulban fine, Moses

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Brown whatever.

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Fine, it's gonna be the same team.

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.719
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be the same ass team. So what are

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 1>they doing is Luca Luca doesn't care. He doesn't care

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get gore and dragic and they're gonna be

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>like get just catching Slovenian vibes, just Slovenian vibes on

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the team, playing playing whatever Slovenian music they love and

0:25:58.119 --> 0:25:58.719
<v Speaker 1>just chilling.

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Gross. Boston Celtics also very gross.

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>They've just done They've just done nothing pretty much, like

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>they're just like, yeah, we know we were terrible and

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:13.400
<v Speaker 1>we just barely made the eight seed and we got

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>bounced in what it was a gentleman's sweep.

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Five what right or five so so long.

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Ago at this point, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Yea yeah, five, And they're like, you know, you know

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna be a game changer for us is getting

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Enus cancer back and like picking up Josh Richardson instead

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of Evan Fournier, Like the beginning of the Brad Stevens

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>GM legacy is off to a hot start.

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:46.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Chris done. I don't hate I liked him. I mean,

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean I've kind of liked him most of his career,

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 3>and going into last year, I thought he had a

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 3>chance to like take a step, you know with a

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 3>new team, but like he got COVID and like all that,

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 3>So like I I haven't given up completely on Chris

0:26:58.280 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Done yet.

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gone. Think he's not even gonna be

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>on the roster by the beginning of the year. That's

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>what they're saying.

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're saying that they're in for another trade

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 2>due to like the cap situation. So you've got a.

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 1>Lineup of of Marcus Smart, Josh Richardson, Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum,

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and time Lord.

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that's like a six seed at best.

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, it's not looking great.

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 2>This is not good.

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>No, So does anyone really can concede or think that

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>this team can contend with the Bucks or the Nets,

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>or with the Sixers or with the Heat like they're

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna get pounded. Talk about infighting, talk about the type

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 1>of infighting that we saw with the Celtics last year.

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 1>If they don't trade Marcus Smart for something now, like

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about Brad Stevens is being frustrated with Marcus Smart,

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like he needs to go. Like they do not have

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a real point guard on this team. No, that's probably

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the guy that needs to ye get bound. Yeah, no,

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>they have no point guard. They have no point guards

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>on then, But like you said, maybe gone so but yeah,

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>this is not a.

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Starting point guard. Gross, this is this is literally maybe

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 2>one of the worst.

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Like this is low key one of the worst, because

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>like Portland it's obvious, Dallas it's obvious sixers obvious, but

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>like you have Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum and Jaylen

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Brown's coming off of injury. You've got two guys, legit

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>all stars, and like there, you can't be a six

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>seed when you have that in the East and getting

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>worse and like you're and you have less good players

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 1>like losing Kemba, losing Fournier and and losing Moses Brown,

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 1>who you got like at the end of the year

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>on that trade.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, at least they have aut Horford. I guess,

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I guess, I don't even know. I don't even know.

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>That's not propelling you in any way in anyway, but people,

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, Celtics fans, they you know, how they feel

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 2>about him. It's uh, it's.

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm I think they're really betting on getting bal and

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to be very disappointed.

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, like, I guess everyone just assumed that

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Bradley Beal wants out, but it just seems like he's like.

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it doesn't care. Yeah, why does everybody keep thinking

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving and like, I like it here?

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I like DC. Yeah, he's like in the vein

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>of the nineties early two thousand superstars that were just like,

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'll stay with my old team.

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fine. Jared Weiss, I think said this best.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>He said Boston is in an absolutely precarious situation with

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>no strong course correction after last season was such a

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>mess that the organization had to be overhauled.

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>The one thing that it does have is a player.

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>In Tatum who can legally tamper with Bale more effectively

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>than anyone in the NBA, which I think matters none.

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>They're intel informing the Beal strategy should be as on

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>point as it gets. The Celtics sink or swim with Beale,

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and it remains to be seen if that works out

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>or not. It's not gonna work.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 3>What does that even mean? Why can Tatum legally tampered?

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>They're like best friends from Saint Louis. Oh okay, so

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>basically they're like super tight, so he can.

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 3>But they're like kind of far apart in age. But

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I guess that doesn't matter.

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Beel, what like babysat or something for Tatum.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's like some crazy five years apart. Yeah, yeah, Sixers.

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't trade Ben Simmons, which is a PR nightmare.

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>This is a PR nightmare. With Ben Simmons is on

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the roster and they play a game in Philly, it's

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna get like, I don't I don't know how I

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>can state this clearly enough. If you care about Ben Simmons'

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>mental health, you have to think about trading him like

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>for less, if you care about them like, you would

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>trade him to anywhere that would do their very best

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>to help him because he you can't stay at Philly.

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 3>No, Philly is absolutely brutal. Yeah no, And like his

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 3>camp has like said, like we understand the relationship is over.

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 3>We're looking to move elsewhere, like, which is not shocking.

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 3>And I think what's happening right now is Maury is

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 3>so used to like, oh, we'll wait it out, We'll

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 3>wait it out. I'll figure out a way to get

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>the right deal. But in this situation, I think I'm

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 3>not gonna pretend I'm smarter than Daryl Moury. But in

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 3>this situation, I think with every passing day, the return

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 3>on Ben Simmons gets worse and worse, so it could

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 3>end up just being an awful, awful offseason to the Sixers.

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Part of me that loves chaos wants to see him

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>stay on the roster because there's gonna be headlines of

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>like a revolt, like there will be things thrown at him.

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying what it is now, like just put

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>yourself in the mind of an insane Philadelphia sports fan

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and what they did to Al Horford and what they've

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>done to players in the past, and then magnify that

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>to a thousand because he basically was the reason that

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>they didn't go to the Eastern Conference finals.

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>So it's gonna be so so bad. They also signed Andre.

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Drummond to a veteran minimum, which is hilarious. Hilarious because

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>he thought he was getting the max. Andre Drummond told

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the world, I'm getting the max from the Lakers, And

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>now you take the veteran minimum on a team where

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>the starting center fucking hate your DUTs and thinks you

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>were a fucking bomb. This is what in twenty eighteen,

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Joellenbid said about Andre Drummond. I own a lot of

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>real estate in Andre Drummond's head and I'm on my

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>way to build more. I think those are mushroom emojis,

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>hashtag bomb, hashtag the process, hashtag bomb is in Philly.

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Uh uh uh?

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Folks, do they not scrub Twitter before they make these

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>moves or call.

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Like did Joellen be sign off on this move?

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>No chance? Right?

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean no chance? Yeah, I don't think he's consultant

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<v Speaker 3>for things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hashtag bomb veteran minimum.

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<v Speaker 1>They wave George Hill, which is wild because I think

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<v Speaker 1>George Hill was the only like adult presence in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that one was kind of a head scratch. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't really know what the motivation was there, Like that

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<v Speaker 3>could have been a money thing, but yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really know.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, a catastrophic offseason so far for the Sixers,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you're starting, you're gonna start Tyrese Maxey at

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<v Speaker 1>the one and you're gonna probably put Ben Simmons to another.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's gonna happen, but I'm intrigued to

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<v Speaker 2>watch so far.

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<v Speaker 1>only place that you can see Marty's face. He has

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<v Speaker 5>A columnida fall, no risk it all, say hello to

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<v Speaker 5>the big dog, say goodbye to.

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<v Speaker 1>All the falls.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep it a hundred and keep it on the honey,

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<v Speaker 5>and keep it a down to certain people.

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<v Speaker 4>So that we don't a live no no no pole pole,

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<v Speaker 4>no no no pole pole you a slow pole all black.

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<v Speaker 4>It would stay whoa.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm the best, I'm the best case closed rock count rock.

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<v Speaker 6>I ain't no joke.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me that, give me that, give me that, give

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<v Speaker 3>me that, give me that, give me that. I want

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<v Speaker 3>this and now what you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't have that.

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<v Speaker 6>Stand your lane, Lois Lana starts stirred on him, say

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<v Speaker 6>your lame, Penny Lana skirt skirred on him.

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<v Speaker 5>Big big, big.

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<v Speaker 6>Big dog, big dog, big dog walk in, he walk

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<v Speaker 6>in with the dog. I'm gonna risk it all. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>gonna risk it all. I'm gonna risk it allee. Big big,

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<v Speaker 6>big big dog, big dog, big dog, walk in, big dog,

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<v Speaker 6>walkay with the dog, doll. I'm a risk it all.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a risk it all. I'm a risk it all.

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<v Speaker 6>Ooh you got a risk it just to get a biscuit?

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<v Speaker 3>Biscuit?

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<v Speaker 6>How many licks does it take the liquor?

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<v Speaker 4>She won the elector trapper, but she already to elect

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<v Speaker 4>a rapper.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh mine, Oh my, so fly Fly said, may I

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<v Speaker 6>stay fly I stay fly.

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<v Speaker 1>Wi just to get by.

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<v Speaker 6>I want it all out a piece of the pie.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody eats everybody, and we keep all of the receipts.

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<v Speaker 3>Swing good.

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<v Speaker 4>We live in good.

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<v Speaker 6>We could have made it up about the hood.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me that, give me that, give me that, give

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<v Speaker 3>me that, give me that, give me that that.

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<v Speaker 5>I want this and now what you mean I can't

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<v Speaker 5>have that?

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<v Speaker 6>Stay a lane lowis lane a skirt skirt on him,

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<v Speaker 6>saying your lame Penny laner, skirt skirt on him. Big big,

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<v Speaker 6>big big dog, big doll, big dog, walk in hey, dog,

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<v Speaker 6>walk in with the dog. I'm a risk it off.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a risk it off. I'm a whisk it all.

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<v Speaker 6>Big big, big big dog, big dog, big dog, walk

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<v Speaker 6>in hey dog, walk in with the dog.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a risk it all.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a risk it all.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a risk it alle