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Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco. Now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Votch Lombardi, Nick Harris, Bobby Belt, Tommy Yarish

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Today is Thursday, January twenty ninth, twenty twenty six, and

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Speaker 3: we are eighty four days away from the NFL Draft

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Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Welcome in to the Draft Show presented

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Speaker 3: by Miller Light once again live here from Mobile, Alabama

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Speaker 3: and the site of the twenty twenty six Panini Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Back alongside Tommy Yarsh and Nick Harris and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: We've got a loaded show for you today. We had

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Speaker 3: a lot of interviews yesterday because Immedia Day. Today we're

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Speaker 3: going to get a lot of sit down opportunities, including

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Speaker 3: one with Charles Dimming's Corner from Steven F. Austin. You

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Speaker 3: don't want to miss this interview coming up in the

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Speaker 3: second segment, and then Drew Fabianic the executive director of

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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl, will join us in the third segment

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Speaker 3: as we wrap up our Day three here at the

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Speaker 3: Senior Bowl. Now, Days one and two really were different

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Speaker 3: in a couple of different ways. One of them was

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Speaker 3: kind of that introduction where you were learning the playbook

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Speaker 3: and getting your scheme down and trying to work your

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Speaker 3: work with new teammates for the first time. That was

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Speaker 3: day one. Day two yesterday, I think we got a

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Speaker 3: chance to really see what some of these guys can

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Speaker 3: do and got to really evaluate a lot of these

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Speaker 3: high level NFL draft prospects.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, the first day there was

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Speaker 4: definitely some feeling out and everybody just kind of getting

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Speaker 4: comfortable playing alongside one another. These guys are all new

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Speaker 4: to being with each other, right, so there is going

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Speaker 4: to be that general feeling out period. But just talking

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Speaker 4: to people around here, it seems like everybody's pleased with

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Speaker 4: how physical yesterday was and they feel like these guys

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Speaker 4: are really going at one another. And I think that's

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Speaker 4: been exemplified through some of the reps that we've seen,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure there's so many clips out there of

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Speaker 4: the physicality and the competition level between these two teams

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Speaker 4: and these players. You can tell that there's a greater

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Speaker 4: sense of urgency now going into this second day, and

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that'll be the case again on day three.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's really been cool to see some of

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Speaker 5: these big names go up against some of the smaller

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Speaker 5: names and find that stout competition and true. Fabianis will

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Speaker 5: talk about it later how he doesn't feel like there's

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Speaker 5: a guy that's out of place here, and I'd agree

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Speaker 5: with him. There might not be as much top end

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Speaker 5: talent at the Senior Bowl this year. That's no knock

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Speaker 5: to his crew, though, because I think when you look

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Speaker 5: at it, you know, Bar for Bar, all these guys

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Speaker 5: that are in this game. He's right, there's not a

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Speaker 5: there's not a cat that's out of place. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: talk about a lot of guys, I'm sure here in

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Speaker 5: this segment, but it's it's been really fun to see

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Speaker 3: Think we've we've now gotten a chance to really pinpoint

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Speaker 3: who has put together and stacked good days. You hear

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Speaker 3: that a lot of times in training camp and then

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Speaker 3: the lead up to a season. How do you stack

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Speaker 3: We've seen a couple of those guys through the first

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Speaker 3: one of those names, Baylor wide receiver. I mentioned him

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Speaker 3: yesterday on the show. We saw it again yesterday as

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Speaker 3: well in practice. I mean, he's really become a standout

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Speaker 5: Yeah for sure. And got the opportunity to talk to

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Speaker 5: Josh yesterday, like you said, But every time I see

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Speaker 5: another round for me as far as grade goes, I

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Speaker 5: think this is one of the more safer bets you

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Speaker 5: And he has shown that here in Mobile, going up

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Speaker 4: I think some of the bigger names too, that you

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Speaker 4: know you come in thinking, Okay, you expect these guys

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Speaker 6: Nobody can guard him, I don't think. I think he's

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Speaker 4: And you know, we talked about earlier in the week

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Speaker 6: When TJ.

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Speaker 4: Parker's playing, nobody's really stood out. He's a lot bigger

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Speaker 6: Parker.

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Speaker 4: My thought on him has changed. Same goes for Lee

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Speaker 4: Hunter in the middle of that Texas Tech defense of

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Speaker 4: here at all, and you see him getting blocked one

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Speaker 6: He's just way too strong.

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Speaker 4: His upper body is incredible, and he just pushes guys back,

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Speaker 6: Answer yesterday, and they had to do it a lot yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And then you know a guy that you question the

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Speaker 4: When Jacob Rodriguez, linebacker from Texas Tech. The dude just

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Speaker 4: gets turnovers like he is around the ball, and he's

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Speaker 4: he posted the clip yesterday of that first forest fumblely

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Speaker 4: I think he had seven forest fumbles this past year

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Speaker 4: to me that have put together some really strong days.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple more I want to throw out there.

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Speaker 5: Tucker, the defensive lineman out of Western Michigan. He's been violent.

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Speaker 5: State Man. He's really come out here and shown that

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Speaker 5: We kind of had an idea when he came in

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Speaker 5: Dalan Everett. That's a that's a first round pick for me.

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Speaker 5: I think I love Dalen Everett. I think he's sound.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna give you a high floor year one in

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Speaker 5: the NFL. I think that's a guy if if you

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Speaker 5: find themselves past pick twenty five, that it makes sense

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Speaker 3: I want you to. I want you to put it

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Speaker 3: out there, though. Would you pick him at twenty staying

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Speaker 3: put in if he's there you don't go corner at twelve?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think I would, just because I think

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Speaker 5: there's still going to be really good defensive names there

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Speaker 5: for you and I I like the Dylan theenum and

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Speaker 5: Dylan Theeneman, I did a little bit more than I

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Speaker 5: could probably buy into a Keith Abney. You know, I

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Speaker 5: those guys. I think they're gonna give you a high

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Speaker 5: floor year one. I think Dalalen Everett maybe a higher floor.

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Speaker 5: I just think the ceiling is much higher with with

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Speaker 5: Dalen Everett than maybe Abney. So maybe I just answer

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Speaker 5: the question for myself right there. Yeah, Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 5: fantastic player. I would I be like, oh my god,

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Speaker 5: it's an awful pick. No, But I just continue to

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Speaker 5: love the kid.

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Speaker 4: Colin and I were watching yesterday and you know what

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Speaker 4: they were doing their individual drills just you know, backpedal

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Speaker 4: of his breaks was, in my opinion, the best of

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Speaker 3: I think one thing to keep in mind, and they're

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Speaker 3: on different teams, but two of the first round conversations

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Speaker 3: at corner coming into the week was Dyalen Everett out

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Speaker 3: of Georgia and Colton Hood out of Tennessee. And out

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Speaker 3: of the two guys, in the comparisons that I've seen

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Speaker 3: so far, I've been far more impressed with Everett than

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Speaker 3: I have been with the consistency of Hood.

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Speaker 7: I see the.

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Speaker 3: Thought process behind Colton Wood. I see where that's a

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Speaker 3: the traits and the tools, and he has some of

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Speaker 3: the tape to back it up too. But the consistency

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Speaker 3: level against this level of competition, against these all stars

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Speaker 3: on the opposite side have has not been there for

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Speaker 3: Hood the same way that I think it's been. There Foreveret,

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Speaker 3: does that kind of mirror what you guys are thinking?

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Speaker 3: Or is it am I alone in that regard?

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Speaker 5: No, I see that, and the tape is probably more

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Speaker 5: consistent with Hood, although I again I think there's still

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Speaker 5: a lot to like when it comes from a length

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Speaker 5: perspective and how that has shown up on tape for

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Speaker 5: Dyalen Everett. But you know, coming from that Georgia defense

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Speaker 5: and Christian Parker has worked with a lot of guys

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Speaker 5: that have come from that Georgia defense, Dalen Everts just

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Speaker 5: continues to make sense. But SEC ball is sec ball.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the day, a guy like Colton

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Speaker 5: Hood is going to be coming in to the NFL,

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Speaker 5: you know, with that experience going up against these and

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Speaker 5: he's battle tested at the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 5: Again I still think it's rich at twelve for Colton Hood. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and I think if you're there and that Daniel Jeremiah scenario,

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Speaker 5: you hope there's a trade partner on the phone. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 5: I do think he's gonna have a good NFL future.

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Speaker 3: So you would take Hood at twenty, but you would

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Speaker 3: not take Everart at twenty. Is he gonna be stacked

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Speaker 3: higher than Evertt on your board?

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Speaker 5: Ask me at Combine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair, and it's still very early. I know

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Speaker 3: you're not stacking boards yet, but just based off of

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Speaker 3: the conversation here, that's kind of what it seems like.

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Speaker 5: No, not necessarily, I wouldn't take Hoot at twelve, and

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Speaker 5: so I I don't want.

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Speaker 3: You take them at twenty. Sure, so then you would

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Speaker 3: Continuing on here in the Draft Show from Mobile, Alabama,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six Benini Senior Bowl. And we've got now

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Speaker 3: excuse me, Charles dim Dimmings here from Steven F. Austin.

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Speaker 3: And Charles, you go by Chuck D. That's why I

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Speaker 8: Man, tell you the truth. My grandpa he always called

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Speaker 8: it's just been Chuck D. Chucky D, which every when

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it, and it's become a name of

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Speaker 3: What does that mean to you? To be able to

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Speaker 8: Man, it's definitely God empowering because you know, I let

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Speaker 8: And now I'm living proof of what it is on

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Speaker 4: You know, over the last couple of years that that's

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Speaker 8: Yeah, man, you know, take off the names on our

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Speaker 8: I went to a small school, but my ability isn't small.

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Speaker 8: My range isn't small, my mom said, definitely isn't small.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's matched.

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Speaker 3: Up with the elite of the elite and the.

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Speaker 7: Shit. But I am.

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Speaker 8: I am the example of when a small school god

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Speaker 8: I remember committing to an April fourteenth, twenty twenty two, Man,

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Speaker 8: Wow, you know that it was a big moment for me.

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Speaker 8: in every way, and love the next man as I

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Speaker 5: You know, I think his glory. I think you expected

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Speaker 5: also had opportunities to hit the transfer portal. Why was

442
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Speaker 5: now the time to go ahead and hop in the

443
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Speaker 5: draft instead?

444
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Speaker 8: Well, my production is solely predicated to the other ten

445
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Speaker 8: guys I was on the field with, not those other

446
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Speaker 8: ten guys, my other, my offense, my special teams. We

447
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,280
Speaker 8: literally played the greatest team sport on Earth. If I

448
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 8: didn't have those other guys doing the things they do,

449
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Speaker 8: I wouldn't be in position to make the players I

450
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Speaker 8: was supposed to make. You know, and the transfer portal

451
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Speaker 8: you know, I'm not an nil guy. I'm not a

452
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Speaker 8: guy who looks for a dollar sign, not a guy

453
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Speaker 8: who looks for the next bag. You know, my goal

454
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Speaker 8: wasn't to just make it to the league, but it

455
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Speaker 8: was the stick. SFA gave me all the tools. It

456
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Speaker 8: gave me all the developmental skills. Turned transformed me into

457
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Speaker 8: the player I could be, but not only that, into

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Speaker 8: the person.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: It gave me a bridge to God. We may not

461
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Speaker 8: have the best resources or the best locker room, but

462
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Speaker 8: we got the best people in it.

463
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Speaker 7: Man.

464
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Speaker 8: Those guys stay true to the court. And not only that,

465
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Speaker 8: they're selfless. You have guys who choose faith over fear,

466
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Speaker 8: hope over despair, and service over selflessness. Man, and things

467
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Speaker 8: like that is where I wanted to leave a legacy at,

468
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Speaker 8: you know, turning down maybe four hundred thousand dollars could

469
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Speaker 8: be one hundred million in the future.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 8: So I was able to see the forest from the

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Speaker 8: trees in that moment, and I'm glad I did, because

473
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Speaker 8: with every decision came with prayer, and that came with

474
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Speaker 8: a lot of discernment, man, And it took a lot

475
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Speaker 8: of meat of me being still in those moments and

476
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Speaker 8: realizing that my purpose is bigger than you know, and

477
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Speaker 8: not yelled back going somewhere for a check man, And

478
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Speaker 8: it was bigger than in between those white lines. It's

479
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Speaker 8: what I could do in that locker room. And I

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Speaker 8: realized that, you know, at a young age, at the

481
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Speaker 8: age of eighteen, and so I was able to commit

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Speaker 8: myself to those guys in the locker room, not to

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Speaker 8: me and my production on the field.

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Speaker 3: Production was gonna come.

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Speaker 8: As long as I did everything I was supposed to

486
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Speaker 8: do and played in the confines of my defense. I

487
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Speaker 8: was gonna make all the players I was supposed to make.

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Speaker 3: Steve nf Austin Corner, Charles Demmings here on The Draft

489
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Speaker 3: Show aka Chuck D I gotta get make sure and

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Speaker 3: get that in there a little bit here. Sorry to

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Speaker 3: get you off there. I just wanted to reset things.

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Speaker 6: That's, oh, you're fine out for great SEGUEU.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 6: What I was gonna ask was, what's the highlight of

495
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Speaker 6: this week been for you?

496
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Speaker 4: Obviously, I know it's a lot some of these guys

497
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Speaker 4: are coming off sixteen seventeen game seasons, and what if

498
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Speaker 4: you really enjoyed about this? Is there a moment in

499
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Speaker 4: practice that maybe stands out to you of whether.

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Speaker 6: It be just having fun or knowing that you made a.

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Speaker 8: Play man, it's definitely being out there. You know, as

502
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Speaker 8: I talk about all this, you know what we're doing

503
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Speaker 8: throughout the hotel, the bond, we're creating, the relationships we're creating.

504
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Speaker 8: Man going on to that field with those other guys,

505
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Speaker 8: and you know, you see SEC helmets, you see ACC helmets,

506
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 8: you see all these different conferences, and then you go

507
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 8: out there and see it Steven F. Austin Jack's helmet. Man,

508
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Speaker 8: that feels amazing. You know, not only do I get

509
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Speaker 8: to talk talk about an impact, but I literally get

510
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Speaker 8: the chance to make one each day that God gives

511
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Speaker 8: me with the allowance he gives men. And so when

512
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Speaker 8: I go out there, I do my usual routine of

513
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Speaker 8: praying before I step on the field. Then I get

514
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Speaker 8: to go on the field, and then now I'm in

515
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Speaker 8: a mix with those guys. They don't feel like I'm

516
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Speaker 8: out of place. It feels like we're all on the

517
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Speaker 8: same team. Tell you the truth, I barely can see

518
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Speaker 8: the difference in helplets if you ask me. And so

519
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 8: it feels amazing being out there with those guys. Man

520
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 8: going through that, and you know, just absorbing their knowledge

521
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Speaker 8: and what they know because you know, they have better resources,

522
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 8: so they kind of they may have a better way

523
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Speaker 8: to take care of their body. They may have a

524
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Speaker 8: different approach than I do to the game. And so

525
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Speaker 8: there's no hate in that, man. I definitely want to

526
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Speaker 8: absorb those guys. Absorb what they know, man, and you know,

527
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Speaker 8: use it to my advantage.

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Speaker 5: During training camp last year, we got to cover one

529
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Speaker 5: of your former teammates, Bruce Harmon. He ended up with

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys. How has he been able to help you

531
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Speaker 5: just over the course of your career and then during this.

532
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Speaker 7: Process as well.

533
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Speaker 8: Man, that was a guy who I came in and

534
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 8: he modeled a pro on and off the field, you know,

535
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 8: very early when he didn't have to win. He didn't

536
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 8: know if he was going to the NFL, you know,

537
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Speaker 8: and he didn't even look that far. I was a

538
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 8: freshman and he was a sophomore man. And when I

539
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 8: came in, he was a third string cornerback, playing like

540
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Speaker 8: a first string, acting as if he was the starter.

541
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Speaker 8: And that he showed me a lot about proper preparation

542
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 8: prevents poor performance. You know, you act like the starter

543
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Speaker 8: before you are the starter. That's how you become the starter.

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Speaker 6: Man.

545
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Speaker 8: That's how you approach today as if you already won,

546
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Speaker 8: you don't wait till you win.

547
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Speaker 7: Man.

548
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Speaker 8: And that guy right there, man, he gave me endless lessons.

549
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Speaker 7: Man.

550
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Speaker 8: He just gave me and not even just me, all

551
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Speaker 8: the other younger guys. He gave us so much advice.

552
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 8: He gave us so much direction and he wasn't That's

553
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 8: a guy right there who chose service over selflessness because

554
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 8: he could have, you know, and he would always tell

555
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 8: me me and yourself athletic, man, you got the ability,

556
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 8: you got everything, and he's trying to get me to

557
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 8: put it together.

558
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Speaker 3: Man.

559
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Speaker 8: And not once did he leave my side until he

560
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 8: left college. And so that was amazing. That was an

561
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 8: amazing guy right that. That was an amazing role model,

562
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 8: you know. And he's a blessing that I don't think

563
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 8: I ever told him that he was and he can

564
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Speaker 8: so he can definitely continue being the guy he is

565
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Speaker 8: and he's going to affect people around the world.

566
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Speaker 5: And just like him, what would it mean to end

567
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 5: up in Dallas?

568
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Speaker 8: You know, that's the home man. I got it tatted

569
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Speaker 8: on me. Man to play for the city. That'll be

570
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 8: an amazing thing. Tell you the truth, Like I couldn't

571
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Speaker 8: even tell you the emotion, you know, And as I

572
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 8: say here and think I would, you know, I could

573
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Speaker 8: say picking up every hat is going to be the

574
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Speaker 8: same emotion. But I feel like when you pick up

575
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 8: that hat for your hometown, oh man, that not only

576
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 8: gives joy to you, but the people around you, the

577
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Speaker 8: people you grew up with, the faculty and staff members

578
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Speaker 8: that help you get there. Oh man, they're going to

579
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 8: be down, man, because not only did they help a

580
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 8: young man transform into a man, you know, from a

581
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 8: boy to a man. Now he gets to represent his

582
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Speaker 8: city in the biggest way by playing for them. So man,

583
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 8: that that don't mean a lot, bro, it'll be a blessing.

584
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Speaker 3: Not to get too far into it, but what do

585
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: you have? Tatted from Dallas on?

586
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Speaker 7: What you got?

587
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Speaker 3: Is it a star? Is it a Dallas? What do

588
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: you got? Man?

589
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,239
Speaker 8: It's the Dallas Skyline inside the state of Texas and

590
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 8: it says Texas made on the top of it.

591
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Speaker 3: All right, yes, very nice, that's awesome. Now final one

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Speaker 3: before we let you go. We have a lot of

593
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Speaker 3: smart viewers and listeners. They do their own film study.

594
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 3: They break down players, They break down prospects, and even

595
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Speaker 3: though they may not have seen you quite yet, what

596
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Speaker 3: can they expect whenever they turn on the film of

597
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Speaker 3: Chuck d and turn on some of that.

598
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Speaker 8: SFA tap, Man, You're gonna see a guy with great

599
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 8: poise God have great resilience, a guy with dry erase memory.

600
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 8: A bad player could come. That bad player is going

601
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Speaker 8: to stay in that moment, I will move on to

602
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Speaker 8: the next moment. Not only that, you're gonna see my

603
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 8: commitment in every play. You're gonna see that hustle, in

604
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 8: that grit, and you're going to be able to tell

605
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 8: my mentality because when I line up against the receiver,

606
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Speaker 8: I'm okay with that being the last thing I ever

607
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Speaker 8: do on this earth. Man, I'm okay with being inclace

608
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 8: and being in helmet. That's my last wardrobe choice because

609
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Speaker 8: that's where God put me. That's the allowance God let

610
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Speaker 8: me have was doing that rep of football. So when

611
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Speaker 8: I say I leave it all out there, I literally

612
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Speaker 8: leave it all out there, man, on every rep and

613
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Speaker 8: every step I take. Man, I'm okay with doing that

614
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Speaker 8: because my foundation is His love. So when people turn

615
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Speaker 8: on the tape, that's what they will see.

616
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Speaker 3: That's incredible. I've asked that question a couple of times

617
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Speaker 3: on this show before, and I'm just really pulling back

618
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Speaker 3: the curtain here. I don't know if I've ever heard

619
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Speaker 3: a better answer in my life. And we've been doing this.

620
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Speaker 3: I've been doing this show for seven years, so I'm

621
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Speaker 3: cheering for you, man, I really answer. I think you've

622
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: got the right mindset, got some really good tape out

623
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Speaker 3: there as well, and you got a long way to go, because,

624
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 3: like you said, you're not just trying to make it

625
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: to the NFL, You're trying to stick and so I

626
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: wish you nothing but the best. Can't wait to see

627
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Speaker 3: you out there later today and then throughout the week

628
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Speaker 3: into the draft process as well. Congratulations on everything up

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Speaker 3: to this point.

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Speaker 7: Thank you man.

631
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Speaker 3: What a privilege it is, man, no doubt about it.

632
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Speaker 3: Charles Demings aka Chuck D remember the name from Steven F.

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Speaker 3: Austin cornerback here from the Senior Bowl when we come

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Speaker 1: Is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into the Draft Show presented by Miller Light,

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Speaker 3: the Only Beer of the Dallas Cowboys with Tommy Yarsh

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Speaker 3: and Nick Harris. I'm Kyle Yeomans from Radio Row with

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six Panini Senior Bowl and we are

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Speaker 3: now joined by the Executive Director of the Senior Bolt,

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Speaker 3: Drew Fabianic, in his first year here with the Senior

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Speaker 3: Bowl crew and leading the Senior Bowl crew. And I

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Speaker 3: will say it's a year of change for the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 3: but it's a change in the positive direction. We've had

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Speaker 3: nothing but incredible things to say over the last two

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Speaker 3: days of practice going into day three today, and we've

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Speaker 3: seen a lot of your work throughout the calendar year

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Speaker 3: to get to this point. So, first off, congratulations getting

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Speaker 3: to this point. What's this last year been like for

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Speaker 3: you taking over and trying to continue the momentum that

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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl has built.

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Speaker 7: You know, it hadn't been a year, It's only been

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Speaker 7: about eight months.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 13: The great thing was, you know, Jim set up a

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Speaker 13: very good system. I mean it's it's built just like

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Speaker 13: an NFL scouting department, and you know we have area

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Speaker 13: scouts that are you know, sprinkled all over the country.

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Speaker 13: You know, we have you know, two scouting assistants, you know,

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Speaker 13: Jack Gilmore hasn't got to do a lot of tape

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Speaker 13: because you know, the operations piece, but he can evaluate.

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Speaker 13: I can evaluate. We got fourteen people, you know, the

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Speaker 13: evaluate tape, and we split it up early. You know,

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Speaker 13: we split it up by conference. We start breaking you

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Speaker 13: know down team by team. First, We've got to figure

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Speaker 13: out where the transfer is going first, you know, that's

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Speaker 13: the biggest thing, because then you got to go backwards

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Speaker 13: on them.

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Speaker 7: Okay, wait, manut, he was here. Let's watch tape on.

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Speaker 13: You know, I walked in and there was two hundred

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Speaker 13: and thirty guys on the board already when I walked

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Speaker 13: when I got here in May. Wow, you know, so

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Speaker 13: I was like, you know, there we go.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 13: So what happens is that, you know, once we start

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Speaker 13: breaking them down, we put together the list for the

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Speaker 13: area scouts in August and we shoot it to them.

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Speaker 13: Right they graded guys on tape. They'll also call the

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Speaker 13: schools because we can't afford to send them to do

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Speaker 13: school business. Now we send them do games, but we

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Speaker 13: can't afford to do that piece. So dave a way

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Speaker 13: of tape and then we have an October meetings with them,

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Speaker 13: just like we do in the league. Well, and then

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Speaker 13: I cross checked them, you know, so they're cross checking us,

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Speaker 13: and then we're cross checking them. Maybe six hundred to

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Speaker 13: seven hundred players evaluated. Wow, right in there. Narrowed it

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Speaker 13: down to like a top three hundred. I think you

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Speaker 13: guys saw what we did right off the bat, you know.

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Speaker 13: And again, did all those guys from the top three

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Speaker 13: hundred making in the game. No, you know, but there's

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Speaker 13: also some guys that played up into it. Yeah, so

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Speaker 13: you know, we found those guys too. And I mean,

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Speaker 13: and it's it's a team effort. I mean, this isn't

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Speaker 13: about me. But what I can tell you is that

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Speaker 13: I've watched every single day and play on this roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's been really fun to see how they've

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Speaker 3: come together as well. But I do want to go

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Speaker 3: into your background a bit here, just because one, you

742
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Speaker 3: were once in the building with the Dallas Cowboys as

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Speaker 3: well spent how many years fifteen eighteen, eighteen years. I

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Speaker 3: to give you credit for those extra three years eighteen

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Speaker 3: years with the Dallas Cowboys, and then you've had some

746
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Speaker 3: other stops along the way before taking over as the

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Speaker 3: executive director of the Senior Bowl, Auburn as the general manager.

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Speaker 3: You were on the West Virginia staff under Neil Brown

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Speaker 3: up in Morgantown. I mean, why was this an enticing

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Speaker 3: job for you after the path that you had to

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Speaker 3: take care.

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Speaker 13: Well, you know, I think every piece of my career

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Speaker 13: has has kind of set my skill set for a

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Speaker 13: position just like this because I coached for seventeen years too.

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Speaker 13: So it's like I can talk to these coaches a

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Speaker 13: lot differently than most people can, and I can explain

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Speaker 13: to them, you know, the whys, and a lot of

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Speaker 13: them have actually asked me to come in on like

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Speaker 13: in August and tell their players what the NFL is

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Speaker 13: looking for. But it also gives me a little time

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Speaker 13: to kind of plug the Senior Bowl little bit and say,

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Speaker 13: you know, this is why this is you know important.

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Speaker 13: You know, I mean everything from you know, like the coaching,

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Speaker 13: I mean, public speaking piece, right presenting, teaching, right, the

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Speaker 13: GM side, fundraising, you know, roster management, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 13: I'm not worrying about the money now, I mean because

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Speaker 13: I got a CEO to do that, but you know,

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Speaker 13: every little piece, I mean, the scouting side, I mean,

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Speaker 13: I'm trying to I'm trying to think the best term

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Speaker 13: to say it. But it's like I can scratch my

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Speaker 13: itch because every single piece of my skill set fits here.

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Speaker 13: You know, I've got to do a lot of civic

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Speaker 13: pieces here. I mean I kid around with people around here,

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Speaker 13: said I didn't you didn't tell me I was gonna

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Speaker 13: be unofficial merimobile because I'm doing like three a week,

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Speaker 13: you know, throughout the year. I mean, whether it's a

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Speaker 13: rotary club or a sheriff's luncheon or you know, a

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Speaker 13: chamber event.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I'm engaged with.

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Speaker 13: The community because the community loves this damn game and

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Speaker 13: they should, I mean, because it brings so much to them.

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Speaker 13: But where else can you go, you know, I mean

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Speaker 13: where where there all Star Game sells out? I mean,

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Speaker 13: bottom line. I mean that tells you how important this is.

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Speaker 4: Going back to your time with the Cowboys, obviously, this

786
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Speaker 4: is an event that they always were all pretty deep too,

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Speaker 4: that they'd bring a lot of people out to. When

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Speaker 4: you were on that staff and when you were in Dallas,

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Speaker 4: what did you enjoy about coming here in this game

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Speaker 4: and this process that obviously drafted a lot of players

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Speaker 4: from here when you were there as well.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean put it this way, there was a

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Speaker 13: scout that was with the Cowboys, Walter Julifogs used to,

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Speaker 13: you know comment, you know, well, hell, they're at Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 13: They're going to get drafted. It's true. I mean, it's

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Speaker 13: the best against the best. And you know what I

797
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Speaker 13: enjoyed about it was getting together as a group. Plus

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Speaker 13: you know, we split it up by position and everything

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Speaker 13: else and then flipped it, you know, and we talked

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Speaker 13: about those guys at the end of the week. You know,

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Speaker 13: this brought guy's value here, you know. And the perfect

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Speaker 13: example was DeMarcus Ware perfect I mean, and I'm not

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Speaker 13: bashing who he played, but in his senior year he

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Speaker 13: played nobody, I mean nobody. And then he comes down

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Speaker 13: here and I can still remember Coach Barcel's walking down

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Speaker 13: from the and Sun seats by the by the one

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Speaker 13: on ones and he goes, he goes Thomas Sulu, He kind.

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Speaker 7: Of you know, brings him over.

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Speaker 13: He says, he says, stand him up, widing him out.

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Speaker 13: Let's go right, And you know, he started just beating

811
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Speaker 13: it living tar out of people that week, you know,

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Speaker 13: and then the discussion was I mean, and I think

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Speaker 13: you guys heard it. I mean, it was him or

814
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Speaker 13: Sean Merriman, Yeah, right, and I think this put him

815
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Speaker 13: over the edge, you know, because Sean Merriman was, you know,

816
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Speaker 13: good at Maryland, right, But we show this guy going

817
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Speaker 13: like he's he's killing people at that level and he's

818
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Speaker 13: killing people at this level. So that's what I enjoy

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Speaker 13: the most is because again, who are you lining up against?

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Speaker 13: And I tell the kids this, you know, when I

821
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Speaker 13: actually do talk to him, because I don't talk to

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Speaker 13: many of them, and I don't recruit them because I

823
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Speaker 13: don't have to. But I tell them, they go, what

824
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Speaker 13: should I expect? I said, It's really simple. And I'm

825
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Speaker 13: not bashing any company on this one either. I tell him, Look,

826
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Speaker 13: I said, whoever you lined up against, sec Big twelve whatever,

827
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Speaker 13: they tend him, not dogging out anybody, I said, but

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Speaker 13: some of the guys you lined up against are working

829
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Speaker 13: at ups next week. I said, these guys are going

830
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Speaker 13: to play on Sunday with you, so be prepared for

831
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Speaker 13: ratcheted up competition. And it is you've seen it, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 13: it's it's rolling right now.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I want to ask you about the process behind

834
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Speaker 5: the scenes and your time working with the Cowboys. Obviously

835
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Speaker 5: a lot of our listeners view from a Cowboys lens.

836
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Speaker 5: How how does this team differ from any around the

837
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Speaker 5: league when it comes to the scouting aspects of things,

838
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Speaker 5: or specifically this time in the draft process. Was there

839
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Speaker 5: anything that stood out during your time with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 13: I mean we I thought we were really good at

841
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Speaker 13: what we did. Yeah, I mean, and correct if I'm wrong.

842
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Speaker 13: I mean, because I had I kind of looked it

843
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Speaker 13: up because you know, when I was a GM, because

844
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Speaker 13: I used it as a tool. I mean, we drafted

845
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Speaker 13: sixty seven Pro Bowl appearances while I was there. I mean,

846
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Speaker 13: from O three to twenty two. I mean that's pretty

847
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Speaker 13: damn impressive, you know. You know again, did I get

848
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Speaker 13: a ring? No, what I would like to have one, yep,

849
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Speaker 13: you know, But I mean, just you know, you know,

850
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Speaker 13: I mean, this is a tough game. It's hard to

851
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Speaker 13: win a Super Bowl. I mean, people think it's easy

852
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Speaker 13: to go to playoffs. The people think it's easy to

853
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Speaker 13: go to Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: It's not. It's not.

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Speaker 13: But I mean I thought we did a really really

856
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Speaker 13: good job, and I thought we put together some really

857
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Speaker 13: good rosters.

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Speaker 7: During my time. And that's what I'm proud of.

859
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Speaker 3: When it comes to looking around the league now, and

860
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Speaker 3: how much it has changed even over the last four years,

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Speaker 3: especially in the scouting element because of the evolution of

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Speaker 3: college football and nil the transfer portal, even from that

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00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two season that you've talked about, how much

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Speaker 3: has it changed and evolved over the last four years

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Speaker 3: now in the preparation process for the Senior.

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Speaker 13: Bowl, Well, I mean, put it this way, We've used

867
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Speaker 13: some analytic tools. I mean, put it this way. We

868
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Speaker 13: have telemetry, you know, and I use it all the

869
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Speaker 13: time because again, that's game speed, and I kind of

870
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Speaker 13: know what all these guys are gonna run even before

871
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Speaker 13: they go to the combine. Yeah, I mean to me,

872
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Speaker 13: it's like I don't need to watch. I don't need

873
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 13: you guys to tell me. I mean, he's running twenty

874
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Speaker 13: one right there, he's running eighteen to five. I mean,

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Speaker 13: I know what those equate to. And it's it's a

876
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 13: great tool. But I think that's where you know, and

877
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 13: again here's the other one. Pff. I mean it's great

878
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 13: because I don't go to games. Yeah, I don't because

879
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 13: it is a waste of fourteen hours. And everybody says,

880
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 13: oh the game, No it's not because you got to

881
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 13: be there early. You get to miss traffic. You can't again,

882
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 13: I go multiview all day Saturday. Yeah, probably sixteen games, right,

883
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 13: taking notes, there's a flash there like that, right, come

884
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 13: in Sunday, put it on.

885
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 7: PFF. Guess what games already loaded? Yeah, it's beautiful, Yeah

886
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 7: it is.

887
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 13: And I'm going I'm going, like, you know, before we

888
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 13: used to have to wait three weeks, you know, to

889
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 13: get it sent to the dub Center. The dub Center

890
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 13: sends it to Cowboys, you know. Then he'd put it

891
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 13: on a herd. I mean, put it on a drive

892
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 13: for me and then you know, send it me. I

893
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 13: mean by the time I get there, it's like four

894
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 13: weeks away from the game that was played.

895
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 5: You got to meet a guy under the tunne under

896
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 5: six thirty five, you got, I.

897
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 13: Mean it was It's so easy now to get ahead

898
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 13: of this, you know. And you know I mean, like

899
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 13: you know, Kaylen Meldon is over right. I mean, he

900
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 13: progressed throughout the year. But I saw him like we too.

901
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 13: I mean, great Blitzer. I was going like, kind of

902
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 13: reminds me of Brady James a little bit, you.

903
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 7: Know what I'm going on.

904
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 13: I mean, just little things like that when I see

905
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 13: it I go, okay, take notes on it, and then

906
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 13: I go and actually watch the tape and I go,

907
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 13: is it real or not? And some of them are

908
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 13: real and some of them mark I mean, because you know,

909
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 13: again a flash of flash, you know, but can they

910
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 13: repeat it?

911
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 7: And can they play?

912
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 13: So yeah, it's made it a lot easier for us,

913
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 13: and it's made it really good for the scouts on

914
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 13: the road too, because you know, now they can get

915
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 13: to that tape, you know, just like that, and they

916
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 13: don't have to wait, so they're ready for October.

917
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 7: That's what the good thing is.

918
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 5: I want to ask you about some of the diamonds

919
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 5: in the rough that you guys have found. We just

920
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 5: talked to one of them, Charles Dimmings. We're ready to

921
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 5: run through a wall him, Tyron Montgomery out of John

922
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 5: Carroll from the Division III ranks. How do you guys

923
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 5: find these guys? First off, I assume you attribute it

924
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 5: to the process, But how do you know that they

925
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 5: are going to be able to stack up against the

926
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 5: big helmet guys that are here?

927
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 7: See see I don't now.

928
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 13: I'm it's an educated guess, because either they show that

929
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 13: they belong, you know, or they get exposed but that's

930
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 13: on me. Now I've seen enough to where I go,

931
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 13: you know, hey, I think this guy's real, and you know,

932
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 13: just like Deming's. You know, I told you guys, I

933
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 13: was watching Cozill in Houston, right and I'm going like, okay,

934
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,959
Speaker 13: wait a minute. I mean, who's that big corner out there?

935
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 13: You know, It's like he was pretty good and I

936
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 13: was like, oh, you know, that's a nice play. I

937
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 13: was like, press's well, you know, I mean, I'm going

938
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 13: I started to go, okay, wait a minute. So I

939
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 13: kept you know, tabs on him the whole year, and

940
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 13: I'm going like, put it this way. By week four,

941
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 13: I knew it was gonna I knew I was gonna

942
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 13: invite him.

943
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 7: It's awesome, you know.

944
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 13: Then you know the Montgomery Kid, great story. You know,

945
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 13: I can't take credit for that.

946
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 7: You know.

947
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 13: Scott Phillips, the director of The American Bull, he and

948
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 13: I've worked pretty well together. I've shared a lot with

949
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 13: him about who I was going to take, so he

950
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 13: wouldn't waste his time, you know. But he tells me,

951
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 13: he goes, he goes, you might want to look at

952
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 13: some tape on this guy, you know, he says, you know,

953
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 13: I'll give you access to you know, practice and all that.

954
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 13: I was like, this dude's real, I mean, and it's

955
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 13: a great story. I mean, you know Division one commit

956
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 13: in basketball at als you. I mean, you can see

957
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 13: the athletic ability out there. I mean, and I saw

958
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 13: him go up. I mean, I'm betting. And again, I

959
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 13: don't know if the kid's going to get a combine invite,

960
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 13: but he should because he may be able to avert

961
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 13: maybe forty two. Wow, I'm guessing, you know, I mean,

962
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 13: just got bounce. And again I can't take credit for

963
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 13: that at all, you know. And what's funny is Mike

964
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 13: Smith called me like two weeks two days after he goes.

965
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 13: He goes, oh, you picked up that guy. He says,

966
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 13: I was going to tell you he was real. I

967
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 13: was like, thanks Mike. And Mike Mike coordinator A little

968
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 13: late now. Yeah, well Mike coordinated against me. He was

969
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 13: a Tennessee Tech as a coordinator. I was a Tennessee

970
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 13: Martin as a tornade. So we got to know each

971
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 13: other pretty well.

972
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: Cool, Yeah, very nice.

973
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 5: Which of these guys have And I know you're running

974
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 5: around like a chicken with his head cut off at

975
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 5: this event doing a million things. But from what you

976
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 5: have seen or talking to your scouts, who are some

977
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 5: guys that you think really improve their.

978
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 3: Stuff so far?

979
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 7: I can be honest with you, I didn't be a

980
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 7: little talk to my scouts at all. I'm dead serious.

981
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 13: I mean, I mean there was gosh, I mean gold

982
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 13: Jacket there yesterday. There was fifteen head coaches there yesterday.

983
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 13: I mean we had almost every single GM in the

984
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 13: building other than less Need and you know in a Gladstone.

985
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 13: I mean those the only two that didn't show. Yeah,

986
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 13: I mean that are employed right now. Sure, but yeah,

987
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 13: I mean Alexi Fields is blown it up. I mean

988
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 13: he's showing that he's a little bit. I thought he

989
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 13: was a long speed guy. I didn't see a lot

990
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 13: of twitch. I didn't see a lot of separation quicks

991
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 13: with him, But man, he showed it this week and

992
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 13: he uses his body really well. Josh Cameron one of

993
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 13: my favorite monsters.

994
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 5: I mean, we're big fans of Josh Cameron.

995
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you.

996
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 13: What when when I lighted up against him for two

997
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 13: years when I was in West Virginia, I was like

998
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 13: that joker's returning punts too.

999
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 7: I'm like, wow, you believed he was a walk on.

1000
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, unreal.

1001
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 7: I mean Michael taff walk on too.

1002
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1003
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, gosh, Kevin Coleman has been uncoverable, dude,

1004
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 13: I mean seriously, I mean you want to talk about separation,

1005
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 13: quicks and crafty. I mean, he's a starting slot in

1006
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 13: in the league, hands down, not even close.

1007
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 7: You know.

1008
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 13: You know, I've seen a great Adam Darryl Jackson. You know, yesterday,

1009
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 13: you know he brokee. You know, he wrote the first rep,

1010
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 13: but then you know he got beat on the next rep,

1011
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 13: and it was it was a great competition.

1012
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 7: You know.

1013
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 13: I hadn't got to watch a lot of the old

1014
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 13: line D line, which I'm gonna try to today. You know,

1015
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 13: it's more of the receivers and you know, the running backs,

1016
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 13: Like I don't know if you saw that rep with

1017
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 13: at yesterday and the past protection a stoned him.

1018
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 7: I mean, what a good rep.

1019
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 13: I mean, And put this way, I didn't have any

1020
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 13: protect I mean, any really good tape this year at all. Well,

1021
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 13: I try to recruit him out of col and transfer portal.

1022
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 13: So I went all the way back to the Cal

1023
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 13: tape and I was like, wait a man, now it's there.

1024
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 13: I was like he's got that, you know, And I'm going, like,

1025
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 13: you know, so and again I'm not taking credit for

1026
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 13: all these guys at all. You know, it's just, you know,

1027
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 13: put this way, sometimes you dumb up into guys, you know,

1028
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 13: and you know, sometimes you know, you find guys and like,

1029
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 13: you know, Ted Hurst, I mean, I can tell you

1030
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 13: it was Drew Hughes. That Drew Hughes, that was one

1031
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 13: of my arias guys. Now he's now he's not a

1032
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 13: lord of working for John Sumroll.

1033
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 7: Right.

1034
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 13: He was like, he's like Drue, he says, I like

1035
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 13: this dude. He was like, he's got he's got a

1036
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 13: little something to him. He says, he's long, he's good,

1037
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 13: he's he says, got great separation quicks.

1038
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 7: He's good, you know.

1039
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 13: But he says, on a really bad team, he said,

1040
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 13: but he's still putting up production. And you know, if

1041
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 13: you can put up production on a on a on

1042
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 13: a bad team, it tells you something, you know. And

1043
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 13: I think he's shown that he's belonged big time. I mean,

1044
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 13: and he's a long, you know, long receiver that does

1045
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 13: a really good job. Like again, I can't even remember,

1046
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 13: you know, you know, some of them but like, I mean,

1047
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 13: Igban Nosen had a good day yesterday. I mean, uh,

1048
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 13: I'll tell you what the gosh uh Kyle lewis Wow.

1049
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 13: I mean yeah, I mean can play nickel. I mean

1050
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 13: he covered tight ends, he can play will. I mean,

1051
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 13: I mean, what a versatile player.

1052
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: You know.

1053
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 13: And and I go way back because I even I called, well,

1054
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 13: I didn't call. I was coming back from like Auburn

1055
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 13: and Nardoozi who called me? And he goes, he goes, hey,

1056
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 13: he says, he said, you are going to invite Kyle

1057
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 13: right now? Yeah, I said, but man, I said, I'm

1058
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 13: worried about how big he is. He goes, how big

1059
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 13: do you think he is? And I go like two ten?

1060
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 13: He goes, huh, he's like two twenty four.

1061
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 7: Wow.

1062
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 13: So he took it. He took a picture of Mundy

1063
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 13: scale that showed me. I'm like, okay, it makes me

1064
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 13: feel better. But the league's got to decide. I mean,

1065
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 13: he could be a will, he could be a moneybacker,

1066
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 13: he could be a big nickel. I mean, but man,

1067
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 13: he's impactful. And I line up against him for two

1068
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 13: years and he was he could wreck a game. I mean,

1069
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 13: I think he's had two picks already. Yeah, I mean so,

1070
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 13: I mean there's some special dudes out here that I mean,

1071
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 13: have really done a good job. And what people don't

1072
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 13: understand is the guy across from pre damn good too.

1073
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1074
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 13: So when they perform that, well, it's gonna it's gonna

1075
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 13: just gonna elevate their stock, just.

1076
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: Because we have a lot of film buffs on our

1077
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: show that might want to look up some of these names.

1078
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: Malachi Fields Notre Dame, uh tad Hurst from Georgia State,

1079
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: Kevin Coleman from Missouri. That one made me feel good

1080
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: because I think he's been incredible all week long, and

1081
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: for you to say that he's a starting slow in

1082
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: the in the league is a big time win. You

1083
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: mentioned Kyle Lewis out of pitt and some of those

1084
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: other guys that I just wanted to make sure everybody

1085
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: at home can look that up. But Drew, it's been

1086
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: a pleasure getting the catch up with you. It's been

1087
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: outstanding getting to watch your work come to fruition this

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Speaker 3: week because I know, like you said, eight months of

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Speaker 3: just grueling work, and I know now you'll get a

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Speaker 3: head start on next year because now you get an

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Speaker 3: extra four months. It's gonna be a breeze for you, right.

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Speaker 7: I hope.

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Speaker 13: Like I said, we're gonna peel the board and we

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Speaker 13: we actually wrote a lot of guys that didn't come out,

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Speaker 13: so we're gonna get ahead of it. I mean, so

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Speaker 13: that helps us, you know, in the process. But no,

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Speaker 13: I appreciate you guys having me and hey, how about

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Speaker 13: them Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Hey there you go, always there. Drew Fabianics, the executive

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Speaker 3: director of the Senior Bowl, here on the Draft show.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's gonna do it for us today on

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Speaker 3: this episode. Really appreciate you guys joining us for Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: Tommy Arish myself. We'll be back to uh or we'll

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Speaker 3: be back tomorrow with an extra episode. Actually, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: try and film an extra one while we were here

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Speaker 3: in Mobile, Alabama, with more of the Senior Bowl tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Thanks everybody.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.