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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment

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Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is

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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. We're thrilled to be joined in our

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Speaker 1: third seat by the hilarious, the talented, the brilliant Bridget Time. Hello.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be back again, so excited to

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Speaker 1: have you always, Bridget. I saw the dogs again. I

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Speaker 1: was like, wait, Bridget, Yes, we're welcome. We always have

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Speaker 1: a good time, you know. I feel like the last

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Speaker 1: time when we were together, we were just the country

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Speaker 1: was about to be in the grips of the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: And it's kind of like it. Things are wild out here. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's already March. It is already March. Birthday months okay,

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Speaker 1: March fourteen. Okay, alright, Pie, okay, Pie, that's right, Pie Day,

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Speaker 1: Albert Einstein's birthday. Pie Day. Um yeah, did he do

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Speaker 1: that on purpose? Yes, make his birthday. He's just that smart.

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Speaker 1: Some next level galaxy brand shit. Um Simone Biles also,

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry, that's a big day. Damn company. Rianna Brianna,

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Speaker 1: it's a place. She wasn't born on my same birthday,

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Speaker 1: but she's also a piece I mean TikTok star Oscar Rosenstrom. Wait,

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Speaker 1: really your favorite TikTok? Yeah, and your favorite Instagram star

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Speaker 1: Bryce Rivera, also Bryce Jones, do good God, hold on

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Speaker 1: no royalty, Quincy Jones, Mike Cocaine, Oh so God man,

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Speaker 1: Billy Crystal. Has anybody ever ranked the best days, like

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Speaker 1: the best birthdays? I mean, obviously Christmas being number one

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Speaker 1: for a Lord and Saint Jesus Christ, But otherwise, like

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Speaker 1: what what would the top birthdays be? This would have

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Speaker 1: to be like top five? Yeah, Einstein, Steph Curry, Simanbile's,

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Speaker 1: Quincy Jones, Bridget Todd, I mean, fucking Michael Caine, It's

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Speaker 1: got what the until just now that you're saying Michael Caine,

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Speaker 1: I thought you were saying Mike Cocaine, which is the

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Speaker 1: joke of like, yeah, exactly, got it very late as

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Speaker 1: as I want to do I have your do today?

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Speaker 1: That's yeah. Yeah, it does feel like I really liked

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Speaker 1: that joke from Rachel though, because I feel like that

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Speaker 1: is the perfect encapsulation of the pandemic. Boring as ship

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Speaker 1: and passing by incredibly rapidly. Uh I can't believe it's

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Speaker 1: March already, and yet nothing has happened. And yet everything

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Speaker 1: has happened. What is something from your search history that's

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Speaker 1: revealing about who you are? Well, real quick, before I forget,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say happy birthday to my mom.

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Speaker 1: It's it's my mom's birthday. Her name is Penny. Happy birthday,

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Speaker 1: Penny Birthday. She's she's thirty nine. Uh So, happy birthday Mom. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So my internet searched lately. I mean I've been watching YouTube, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, mostly to get through I mean just I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: that's not really true, because I watched a ton of

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Speaker 1: YouTube before the pandemic, So I guess I just watched

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Speaker 1: YouTube to get through life. But um, I've been watching

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Speaker 1: a lot of I mean I kind of ran. I

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Speaker 1: watched tons of vintage nineteen eighties wrestling, so I searched,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the nineteen eighties wrestling, but I've seen

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Speaker 1: now I've been back on one of my old favorites,

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Speaker 1: which is the jfk assassination. Uh And since it's never

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Speaker 1: going to be resolved. It's one of those things you

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Speaker 1: can just keep going back to, and it's got great characters,

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Speaker 1: and it's got great grainy interviews with people, and you

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Speaker 1: can hear all about phone booths and and phone books

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Speaker 1: and all kinds of old things that don't exist anymore.

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Speaker 1: You can, and you can hear mostly about my favorite guy,

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Speaker 1: badge Man. Oh ship, and you okay, because I was

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Speaker 1: told that going into this that Jack was some kind

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Speaker 1: of okay. When you started saying JFK, Jack started cracking

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Speaker 1: his knuckles and rolling his neck. He was about to

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Speaker 1: step in the octagon. But what's Badgeman? Okay? Well, technically

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Speaker 1: badge Man is not. Really he's not a real thing,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't stop me from watching. Well, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: actually given that because that's a deal. I didn't mean

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Speaker 1: made up thing? I just said, No, it's like a

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Speaker 1: it's a real thing that people talk about. But I

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Speaker 1: do not believe that that is a man with a

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Speaker 1: badge on the grassy knoll. But there was this guy

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Speaker 1: got the grassy knoll in it, but he was pretty

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Speaker 1: far away. So a bunch of like nineties seventies photo

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Speaker 1: don't even point it out. There's like there he is,

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Speaker 1: and you're looking at nothing. And then then fine, they'll superimpose,

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Speaker 1: like they're like, all right, if you want proof, here's

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Speaker 1: a little superimposed outline of them. Since you're a beginner

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Speaker 1: at looking at men firing guns, I guess because right there,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Oh, you think it looks

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Speaker 1: like a bush? What must be because you think everybody

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Speaker 1: firing a gun looks like a bush. Um, that's a

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Speaker 1: disorder you have. But I guess if I have to,

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Speaker 1: I'll show you the outline of the man there. I

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Speaker 1: think it looks like a bush, as in George H. W. Bush,

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Speaker 1: who was in Dallas that day. I have a three

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Speaker 1: tramps tattoo, and are the three tramps Nixon, George W.

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Speaker 1: George H. W. Bush, and uh lb J. I'm I

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Speaker 1: believe that. I mean, I believe, I really recreationally believe

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Speaker 1: a lot of things, you know, recreational recreational belief that

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Speaker 1: I actually think the third tramp is a young Bill Paxton.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people talk about how strange it was

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Speaker 1: people realize a like eight year old Bill Paxton was

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Speaker 1: just down the street and has been photographed on his

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Speaker 1: dad's shoulders. Is that true? Yeah, that's true. George H.

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Speaker 1: Will was thrown up, oh Bill Paxton? Oh yeah, yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: George H. W. Was there behind the scenes coordinating the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. Okay, So Bill Paxton was on George H. W.

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Speaker 1: That's weird because Bill paxts Okay, full grown Bill Paxton

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Speaker 1: was on George H. W. Bush's shoulders inside and overcoat

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Speaker 1: and he was one of the tramps. That is interesting.

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Speaker 1: So the Three Tramps for people listening to Daily Side Guys,

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Speaker 1: they're these three guys that they think we're undercover CIA

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Speaker 1: guys or else assassins that were dressed as hoboes like

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Speaker 1: train train hoppers and and they you know, so people

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Speaker 1: like compare their silhouettes. There's pictures of them. But you know,

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Speaker 1: so people think, like Woody Harrelson's father, they think Harrelson's

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Speaker 1: like corn. Uh. Yeah, So I'm gonna get a three

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Speaker 1: Tramps tattoo. I'm also getting a triple underpass tattoo. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing was badge oh badge man. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I kind of think that the funniest thing about Badge

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Speaker 1: Man is that his head like he's not proportional. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you're looking at crimes, never underestimate

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Speaker 1: the fuck I'm forgetting the word now, cold gas study.

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Speaker 1: Never underestimate the cold gass uh, never underestimate the mascot community,

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Speaker 1: is what I was going to say. Yeah, so Badge

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Speaker 1: He's called badge Man and he's not real and um,

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Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people who talk about him

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Speaker 1: endlessly and I like watching it. What is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history? So this is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a weird one. But Jack, I think you might feel

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Speaker 1: me on this because you are a fellow Whologan. You

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Speaker 1: So they had an episode I think just the other

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Speaker 1: a whole thing about how Lance Bass was going to space?

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Speaker 1: Lance Bass from uh And the reason why he didn't

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Speaker 1: Accept This Rose? And Oh my God, a great come on,

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Speaker 1: Um and apparently and this is not official, I may

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Speaker 1: and our iHeart podcast host Maven one of the Great

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Speaker 1: Arden Marine We're supposed to Amazing Race together as a

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Speaker 1: duo this past year, but the pandemic push it back.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, but hopefully the future like two of the

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Speaker 1: Great Arden, Like I want her do literally anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just as long as it involves her interacting with people,

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Speaker 1: your Lance. I'm interested like when it gets you know,

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Speaker 1: that's I feel like I'm the Amazing Race. When it

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Speaker 1: they are really on the edge. Yeah, it's like, oh wow, great,

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Speaker 1: that they have no communications skills. I was soft approached, Well,

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Speaker 1: my wife was soft approached about doing amazing rate the

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Speaker 1: Amazing Race because her sister was on Survivor and they

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Speaker 1: what they're they're one potatoes too. You can switch their

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00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: parts already, so like you can put you can put

423
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: the high heels on with the little bowl or hat,

424
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But like I don't I don't think

425
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: there was like an outcry from trans and non binary

426
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: people to do away with the genders of the potatoes. Um,

427
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: And yet now all of the hate is like falling

428
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: back on, like as if we demanded this and we're

429
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: being totally unreasonable. So it's this like like they get

430
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: to look good and then we get to like carry

431
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: the brunt as ridiculous as that, maybe from whomever decides

432
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: to think that that's a horrible or ridiculous or you know,

433
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: the left is going too far again thing, But it's

434
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: like the left did did did we demand that? Or

435
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: was that just an opportunity that they saw to market too.

436
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: I think it's just it's open for attacks from the

437
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: right and the you know, the culture war context, because

438
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: if you're progressive and you are actually caring about these things,

439
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: you will say like, oh, that's a little that's regressive

440
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: or that's aggressive to have this thing just sort of

441
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: delineated as a binary or whatever. Considering that progressive people

442
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: say and generally like genders are construct is everybody still

443
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: with me, Okay, so then therefore let's look at these things.

444
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: But I think because they know that to be part

445
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: of like progressive culture, that it's like, of course they

446
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: wanted this because everything is gonna It's like, look, there's

447
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: between like yeah, like talking about things on how to

448
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: move forward and trying to paint someone as like a

449
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there was someone who had a campaign

450
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: against the potato heads, but I there's certainly larger battles

451
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: for me to pick the pro And also a lot

452
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: of trance people use mr or missus like it's not

453
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: it's such a strange. It's just really and I mean,

454
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: obviously potatoes also don't inherently have genders. I think that

455
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: they're like self whatever, I don't know. Science isn't my thing. Yeah,

456
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: there you go. But you know, and of course, like

457
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: another important thing is, like I'm speaking for myself, I'm

458
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: sure that there's lots of queer, you know, gender nonconforming

459
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: people that think that that's wonderful. And it is. I mean,

460
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: it's great. But what's great about it is not Hasbro

461
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: or whatever the company is. It's it's the fact that

462
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: they're reflecting back to us, our own culture through an

463
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: unfortunate medium. But nonetheless we can say, okay, like this

464
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: is the direction culture is going, even if it's messy

465
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: and stupid and shitty and embarrassing and launches us into

466
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: like the spotlight. I mean, we're gonna talk about the

467
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: mumpets and it's kind of you know, it's it's like

468
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: a similar type of thing. But yeah, I think brand

469
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: activism is uh, you know, I mean it's overrated because

470
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: a lot of I think more progressive sort of centrist

471
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: might might see that and think that that's just it's

472
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: just so wonderful, you know, where whereas I'm seeing tweets

473
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: that are just horrible about you know, and then Oreos

474
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: tweets you know, trans people exist, and it's like, oh, okay,

475
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: thank you. You know, it's like, Nibisco, what's your policy

476
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: in terms of your employees if they needed life affirming

477
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: gender resignments or do you do you kick in on that?

478
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: That's that's it, you know, and there's no there's no

479
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: paid leave or anything like that. But the oreoke, well here,

480
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: that's the difference that was in Nobiscos saying that that

481
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: was the cookie talking. They're gonna take that up with

482
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: the cookie, and I don't think the cookie has benefits

483
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: or hr so I don't know. I I feel like

484
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: the it's interesting to you the potato head thing on

485
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: a continuing with the pepsi ad, because I feel like

486
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: the pepsi ad was an example of the brand trying

487
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: to appeal to people who have progressive politics and it's

488
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: just like failed miserably because they first of all, it

489
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: was just poor, like horribly handled, but also, uh, it's

490
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: just a more subtle thing to do that, whereas the

491
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: I do wonder like I would love to see a

492
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: marketing material leak like they had with the logo design

493
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: for pepsi where they were just like posed for twenty

494
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: million dollars by people who were just like throwing going

495
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: out how to use photoshop? Yeah, who knew how to

496
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: use photoshop. But I wonder if this is part of

497
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: the calculus at this point, that because the right is

498
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: just so reliable in its outrage and you know exactly

499
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: what is going to happen when you do something that

500
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: is even remotely progressive in any way that the right

501
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: is going there's going to be an outrage that is

502
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: incredibly reliable and that automatically pits you against, so it

503
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: it's like a safer bet to do something that's designed

504
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: to outrage the right and be safe as opposed to

505
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: like trying to do whatever the funk the pepsi ad

506
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: was trying to do. Yeah, I think there's or it's

507
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: like it's just genius troll marketing. It's like watch but

508
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: nobody give a funk about potato Head. We're gonna do

509
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: this thing. It's going to outrage the right. Every news

510
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: outlet's going to cover it and without paying. Now even

511
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: people have heard, well, has Bro's on the right side

512
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: of the woke wars and that's all they had to

513
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: do was just piss off the right. Um, and that's

514
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: that seems That also seems very like a very feasible

515
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: marketing plan to save money on on your ad Bucks

516
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: because you see it done with other stuff too, Like

517
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's normally just like some sensational product they

518
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: used to get blocks to be like, oh my god,

519
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: a log that smells like beef, but like this ship

520
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: they can get everywhere, like just past of toy blogs

521
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: or food blogs by making by entering the culture wars

522
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: and be like and we're right and honestly the people

523
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: on the right, they just talk shit. What would I

524
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: still see them drinking Kruig and wearing Nike? So yeah,

525
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: I want I want somebody from the marketing world. Uh,

526
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: if anybody, if any it is like GNG works in

527
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: marketing and knows, like I bet there's a term for this.

528
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: Whatever is like basically right wing troll baking. It's and

529
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so euphemistic. You'll be like organic societal

530
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: reckon silly Asian strategy. So oh, all right, let's talk

531
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: about Q Shaman. He comes and goes, doesn't he do

532
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: as he as he pleases? I mean his mom's like

533
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: main argument was the door was open. Yes, that's it.

534
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: So it got knocked in, right, I mean they how

535
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: is he supposed to know the doors open? They're just

536
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: waiting for him to come. Uh. So he just makes

537
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: these criminals so fucking lazy and pisses me off. The

538
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: door was open, the fuck? That's just because you think

539
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: you can see that ship. Fine, but you've been gassed

540
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: up by society to lead you believe that that is

541
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: a valid defense. So I'll go off. Yeah, it's like

542
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: the affluenza defense, but like just expanded to everyone. It's

543
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: like a Norman Rockwell painting where it's like, oh, my

544
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 1: child accidentally went into the doctor's office, but it's like

545
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: my baby actually stormed the capital. Sorry about this, it's

546
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: just it's just a bit of Americana for you. So

547
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: he is facing twenty years for his Senate prayer service,

548
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: I think, is how he would describe it. Um and

549
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: CBS is giving him an interview to explain himself. This

550
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: is why Trump's gonna win next time if Trump lives

551
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: for four years. This kind of ship because the media

552
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: is already like, oh well, we can't lose the ratings

553
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: of all the trumpy stuff. Let's take a second to

554
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: humanized face paint screamer really quick. It's so great too

555
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: because of all the Black Lives Matters activists that they

556
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: gave full interviews too over the summer. It's really great.

557
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: I remember when in the midst of it all the

558
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: amount of journalists that were in and amongst the activists

559
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: and protesters asking what it was they were here fighting

560
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: for versus going seven thousand yards away and going I

561
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: think they're throwing fire bombs. Now fuck off anyway, are

562
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: given the same. But see, but I'm saying but these

563
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: are the things too. Back to the other thing that

564
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people are seeing, just how fucking lame

565
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: even the media is with ship like that. You like,

566
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: like who the who the funk are y'all anymore? Like

567
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't even like fun all this anyway. So CBS

568
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: this morning running the sick ass interview with Ku Shaman,

569
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: and the clip, you know, starts off being like, you know, fam,

570
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: we think you attacked the nation. And he's just gonna

571
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: go and let you know why this has all just

572
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: been blown out of proportion. Your actions on January six

573
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: were an attack on this country? Do you understand that

574
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: my actions were not an attack on this country? That

575
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: is incorrect, that is inaccurate entirely. How would you describe them?

576
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: My actions personally on January six, my actions on January things,

577
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: How would I describe them? I say a song, and

578
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: that's a part of shamanism. It's about creating positive vibrations

579
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: in a sacred chamber. I also stop people from stealing

580
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: and vandalizing that sacred space the Senate. Okay, I actually

581
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: stop somebody from stealing muffins out of the the brain room.

582
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: I also stop stop the count. If I was a lawyer,

583
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: I would say, we've got thank you. See my client

584
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: as an upstanding gentleman. He's all he does is deal

585
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: in vibrations and is a protector of loose muffins. He

586
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: comes in with with big sovereign citizen energy at first,

587
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: where like he sounds like one of those dudes who's

588
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: like at the court being like, you cannot taste me, sir,

589
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: you cannot be detained against my will. This is against

590
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: the constitution, And then like it's taste and uh pisy himself. Um,

591
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: but then I love the just straight up asking the

592
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: question back to the question or while you kind of

593
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: uh scalford time. Even though you've been in jail, you

594
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: should have been able to prepare for a question of

595
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: how would you describe what you were doing that day?

596
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: I should be like, how would how would I describe?

597
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: Are you talking? I say, let me describe a description. Well,

598
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: we'll put around like eight thirty in the morning. I

599
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: did brush my teeth in the morning. Um, I flosted

600
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: as well, and my breakfast included like a banana, and

601
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: then um I took the I looked at the metro schedule.

602
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: Hold no, I feel like you're how would you describe

603
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: entering the capital violently screaming with a group of other insurrectionists,

604
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: how would I describe? How would I screaming? But you

605
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: know what's funny? Then then CBS lets him get away

606
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: with that ship. Like you like, how would you describe it?

607
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: You act like you're talking to some like political dissident

608
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: somewhere and let's shot your side down, show the footage,

609
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: be like this is what you did. Also, it's that day.

610
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: I remember watching Um, I was watching somebody that was

611
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: streaming on Twitch. They were going to all a bunch

612
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: of the twitch streams from the insurrectionists that were there

613
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: and that, and like after he would came he came

614
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: outside and he was just like high fiving people and

615
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: just having a fun time. And I'm like, this footage exists.

616
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: Like if CBS, like if these like journalists like weren't

617
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: as lazy as they were, they would go and like

618
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: find the real footage of like what these people were

619
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: doing and be like, hey, here's actually a clip of

620
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: you doing that. Here's all of this stuff, like put

621
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 1: it in his face. These people should have a book

622
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: literally slammed in their fucking face. It's insane that this

623
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: is they're letting this happen. The new new term book stomped,

624
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: where the weight of the legal books just stomp your

625
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: ass out for justice. But you know, this is America,

626
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: so who knows what will happen. But the thing is,

627
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's like, why would his lawyer let him

628
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: do this before his trial? This ship is so weird,

629
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: and the the lawyers like, we gotta let people see

630
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: this guy, you know what I mean. And you know

631
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: what they did exactly that, you know what I mean,

632
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: by not pressing him, by not just like rhetorically cornering

633
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: him constantly being like so that's what you thought, Oh, interesting,

634
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Speaker 1: don't just let that ship rock like that. Yeah, you're

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00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: a journalist pushed back on the truth, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: find find it right. The muffins steeling is good though,

637
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: because I mean that that is one of the most

638
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Speaker 1: important things to Americans is the prevention of muffin theft,

639
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: So he's aligning himself with that. But yeah, myles, to

640
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: your point, the like, that's just saying, well, America's white

641
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: supremacist country and he is a white person, so we

642
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: will let them see him and that will make them

643
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: like him better. And that's what he's At the very

644
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: end of end of his interview, he said, see me,

645
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Speaker 1: see me. I mean, he's like, I'm not a violent man,

646
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, but this is how this is. This is it, y'all?

647
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: This is it like the we're we have a we

648
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: were held houstage by an improviser from Arizona. Um that's

649
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: right going on, and his mom uh is in there

650
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: saying that he you know, should open he deserves yeah,

651
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: the open door thing, and just that he deserves another chance.

652
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: And I mean it's basically given. Yeah, it's a like

653
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: the his defense could have organized this interview, and all

654
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: that does is arms stupid ass supporters of this guy

655
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: really dumb talking points to then infect their groups with

656
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: being like, well, you know, the door was open and

657
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: it sounded like he was just there and he was

658
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: praying like he wasn't one of the people like beat

659
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: a coppyr and you know what I mean. And this

660
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: is how this ship goes because you just let that

661
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: go uncontested And now for sure have they already even

662
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: like false flagships so much to go just like no,

663
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: they left the door open. They tried to trap us

664
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Speaker 1: with this and this is like part of the great

665
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: awakening and but then like, but then you show him

666
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Speaker 1: clips where the people are like, but it was me,

667
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: I am not anti, I am the one, and like

668
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: you had other people too, like is this whole that

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00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: whole you know, paid at crisis actorship was going on.

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Speaker 1: But then they juxtaposed that was so many people like

671
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Speaker 1: I hate the people were trying to say what we

672
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Speaker 1: did that day was but it was the vibes your

673
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: honor defense been used in a federal court before because

674
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Speaker 1: the specific mention of like the vibrations and energy was

675
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Speaker 1: pretty I mean, that's that's that's key to his shamanism,

676
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: right right, right, Yeah, So I'm excited to see what

677
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: crystals he brings into court with him. Um, it's going

678
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: to be interesting to his lawyer. Is a crystal. I

679
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: hope that he wears his suit but also his buffalo

680
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: helmet to the courtroom. He probably will. He's an asshole. Unfortunately,

681
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: it's evidence, I think, oh yeah, yeah, I mean he

682
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Speaker 1: could construct construct one. What if he builds up one

683
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: out of his prison toilet? Right? All right? This is

684
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: an article from Wired that I really liked. It's written

685
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: by a guy named cal Newport who just released a

686
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: book called a world with email, and he basically raises

687
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: this overarching point that tech might not be might just

688
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: be making us busier and not actually making us more productive. Right, No,

689
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, it's who the thought for all

690
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: the times we're like yeah, man, because look we all

691
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: see ship and we see a technological advancement, go oh wow,

692
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: that makes that thing so much easier. Actually, thank you technology, um.

693
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: And he just kind of raising this point. It's like

694
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: we have to kind of stop defaulting to being like,

695
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: all tech makes working so much easier and collaborating easier

696
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: and therefore will be more productive when the data does

697
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: not support that at all. He's talking about when the

698
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Speaker 1: PC came out and began being worked or introduced into workplaces,

699
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: people were like, Wow, this thing is great and it's

700
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: making everything easier. But a lot of when they really

701
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: started crunching the numbers as to what was happening, um,

702
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: like in these like major corporations with the introduction of computers,

703
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: they were like, nah, there's there's this kind of a

704
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: disconnect between like what's easy and like what's effective. It

705
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: seems to actually like it sort of rearranges people's time

706
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: in a way that causes more issues like so, for example,

707
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: they did a study like back in the late eighties

708
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: and nineties about these five major corporations that were replacing

709
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: their typing pools, like where people were the type is

710
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: to get you your documents and ship with word processors,

711
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: where people could like type on computers and get that

712
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: ship quote unquote a lot easier or quicker. But they

713
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: found that the typing pool, all their work fell to

714
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: the people whose work they were supporting as a typing pool,

715
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: and then created a need for now more expensive, higher

716
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: paid managers to keep the newly minted typists to keep

717
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: churning out the work. So it really increased staffing costs

718
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Speaker 1: by with not even this not a proportionate increase in

719
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: output or productivity. So now the focus is being put

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Speaker 1: on for so for this writer talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: slacking email is kind of like this whole new thing

722
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: where you know, this is a quote from him says

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Speaker 1: in two thousand five, just based on numerous studies found

724
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: in two thousand five, we were sending and receiving fifty

725
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: emails a day. In two thousand and six, it jumps

726
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: to sixty nine. By two thousand eleven it was ninety Today,

727
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: we send and receive an estimated one hundred twenty six messages,

728
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: checking our inboxes once every six minutes on average. So

729
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: we're basically spending more time just talking about work and

730
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: not having like the uninterrupted hours to do the work. Um,

731
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: so that's why they're like, what we actually need to

732
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: have a reckoning here, because like gmails now even finishing

733
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: our sentences, which seems convenient, but like, is that actually

734
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: gonna make me more efficient? And we'll just give you

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00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: allow you to get to the next email quicker. Right,

736
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: You're you know, constantly distracted. And I think the answer

737
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: to this problem isn't easy. Even as the author of

738
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: the opinion pieces, it's not going to be easy. But

739
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: we have to actually begin to slow down and begin

740
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: to solve this issue because it's it's like this weird.

741
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: This that's the productivity paradoxes. It's called like we don't

742
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: know how much it's actually helping, and points to like

743
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: other industries where they have more of like a project

744
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: like project management protocols where teams spend less time talking

745
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: what they're doing, and it's like check boxes and being

746
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: like these are my tasks I have to get done,

747
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: tic tic tic tic tic, I'm done. I can check

748
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: in when I'm done with my tasks, versus like, hey,

749
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: where's that test? You know, it's just checking in on

750
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: this task and leave people to their own devices to

751
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: just start work uninterrupted. But that only works for specific industries.

752
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: And I think it's this I think opinion piece raises

753
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: like the larger question of how are we going to

754
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: uh ourselves try and solve this problem by taking a

755
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: moment to look at these inefficiencies. Yeah, giving us busy

756
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: work that we can do efficiently while not making our

757
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: overall productivity any higher, and also not giving us like

758
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: any way of any time to think about whether, like

759
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: the overall like philosophical and ethical implications of the work

760
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: we're doing. Like that's that feels like a huge chunk

761
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: of what we're dealing with. Like in a world where

762
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: the problem is that we keep observing the same social

763
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: injustices over and over and over and nobody's ever doing

764
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: anything about them, like that, that feels uh super relevant,

765
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: that we're that weird and like just that I feel

766
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: like this expands to social media too, right, Well, I

767
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: mean the way you talk about too, it's just sort

768
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: of like what the pandemic offered people societally, societally for

769
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: a moment where ships slowed down very quickly, and now

770
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: we had in one year increased class consciousness, increased consciousness

771
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: around white supremacy and things like that that I'm sure.

772
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't think those things are unrelated,

773
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: like because we had the time to think, to see,

774
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: to process versus like I gotta I know that should happen,

775
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: another unarmed person got killed, but I gotta send these emails.

776
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: Oh my boss hitting me up on slack. I gotta

777
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: get like, yeah, where do you find the time to say, Wow,

778
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: how do I solve? Like I'm seeing people who are

779
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: hungry in my neighborhood, Like what am I how? What

780
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: what's going on? How do how do we are there

781
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: things I can put my energy towards. On the flip

782
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: side of that, though, that's probably how Q and NON

783
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: started too. You know, people have this like gap they

784
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: needed to fill, you know, and like like you know,

785
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: soccer moms at home clicking around on the Internet looking

786
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: for something to kind of validate their feelings, you know,

787
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: and then that's when they got startling down these like

788
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: internet rabbit holes and I think that's how that picked

789
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: up so much steam and got mainstream so quickly. So

790
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: I do think there's like a dark side to it

791
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I don't think anything is absolutely good

792
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: or bad, but yeah, I think but overall, uh, I

793
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: think we're we would greatly benefit, at least in the

794
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: context of I mean ship. You know, I'm glad people

795
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: woke the funk up even slightly, but at what cost.

796
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: The other thing, though, with our workplaces now, is how

797
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: are we like we have to like kind of think

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00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: about what this whole way of work, like, what our

799
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: whole mode of working is and is. It doesn't make

800
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: sense to do this thing of like everyone is interconnected

801
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: at the exact same time, and we can start firing

802
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: off messages to each other without overloading our own circuits

803
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: and capacity to just do like focused you know work

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Speaker 1: whatever jobs are, or even like all these like unnecessary

805
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: zoom meetings about other meetings and like you said, it's

806
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: all just meta think kind of about talking about working

807
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: instead of actually doing something. You have to like talk

808
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: about it first and then kind of agree, and you

809
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: could have just done all that in the first place,

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00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: or had to be like one email instead of a

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00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: our you know, waste of time zoom call. Yeah, because

812
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: they talk about even just like how certain activities in

813
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: the beginning with like a computer were more efficient. Book

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00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: just it creates more work, right, So like if you

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00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: if you're like there was a you're running a business.

816
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: Instead of having an accountant update your ledgers that were

817
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: on paper, a business owners like, well, I got quick books,

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00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: Now I got a spreadsheet. Now I can do this

819
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: and do it just a little bit worse than my

820
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: account exactly, which is fine, I get it. It might

821
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: be easier than this paper book that you have to

822
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: like work through. But over like the saying, but practically,

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00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: business owners now just have less time to do the

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00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: other things that might be more important because they're like, well,

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00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: since it's easier, I can take this on. And what

826
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: we're doing is we'll be like, well that's easier, I

827
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: can take that on. I can take it on, and

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00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: then we're really we're becoming more and more unbalanced. Yeah,

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00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: I think that's part of the overall issue that like

830
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: will be continuously documenting of just overall like kind of

831
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: broad but invisible social issues that are giving us a

832
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: lot of the issues that we're having right now let's

833
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back.

834
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Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk about this McDonald's minimum wage talking point,

835
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: because is there. It's actually kind of an interesting story

836
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: that I think dives into one of the big problems

837
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: of the United States. So AOC brought it up in

838
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: a recent tweet, pointing out that McDonald's workers in Denmark

839
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: make twenty two dollars an hour plus six weeks of

840
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: paid vacation. Uh, but how much is a big mac?

841
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: Six grand? Yeah, so this is a big talking point.

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00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: The for one of the conservative rebuttals is, well, that's

843
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: great because the big mac actually cost five fifteen over there,

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00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: and it's four eight in the U. S um. This

845
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Speaker 1: is based on something the economist does that's like just

846
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: like a silly in phographic. They don't like really take

847
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: it that seriously from two thousand fourteen, and if you

848
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: actually looked at look at the updated data, the big

849
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: mac costs like a dollar more in the US UM.

850
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: So they're big mic drop thing actually is the opposite, Right,

851
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: there's also um they they're pointing out that Denmark doesn't

852
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: have a minimum wage, and so I mean, they're they're

853
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: the ones who are you know making it like making

854
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: that argument that's not AOC wasn't like their minimum wages

855
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: twenty two dollars. She said that that's what they make UM.

856
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: And the reason they're able to do that without a

857
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: federally mandated minimum wage is that they have unions, and

858
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: unions actually work on behalf of the workers. Typically trade

859
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: unions work to keep wages above twenty dollars UM, but

860
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 1: there's no federal wage. UM. So USA today was like, so,

861
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: uh three pinocchios for AOC um, but uh so American society. Uh,

862
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: fast food employees make an average of eight ninety an hour.

863
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: Half of them rely on some form of public assistance,

864
00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: UM and over. And the reason that we don't have

865
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: that as we we just don't have union support um.

866
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: And So the way that this actually came about the

867
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: twenty two dollars McDonald's showed up in Denmark and was like, Uh,

868
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: we're not gonna like deal with these unions fucking union um.

869
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: And so the unions went to work. Uh yeah, they

870
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: find out phase they did the funk around part Uh,

871
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: there were strikes, boycott's leaflet campaigns, newspaper coverage, and daily

872
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: demonstrations outside of McDonald's restaurants. UM. Construction workers refused to

873
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: build any new McDonald's brewery workers wouldn't deliver beer because yep,

874
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: beer in McDonald's over there, which is awesome. Uh. And

875
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: Danish graphic artists refused to work on McDonald's advertisements and

876
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: instead made counter advertisements, including one that became iconic of

877
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: a dog taking a piss on the Golden arches. Um.

878
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: And so they eventually like, all right, I guess like

879
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: we'll we'll, we'll do we'll be part of the we'll

880
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: let our employees be part of the union. Um. And

881
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: that's how like that's that's the only way that corporations

882
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: are brought in line with like collectivism their workers. Uh fairly. Yeah,

883
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: they're just I mean, yeah, it's that simple, you know

884
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like this country has just been on

885
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: a steady path of just taking apart, dismantling unions and

886
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: the ability for you know, collective bargaining and trying to

887
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: advocate advocate for the workers to advocate for themselves collectively

888
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: to get the outcomes that they want, like wages that

889
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: be like I have one job and it's fucking tight. Uh.

890
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: And I have vacation and I can be a parent

891
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: versus you know what we have now, which is saying like,

892
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: hey guys, I get it. You're a franchise e. You

893
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: want to make money like this is the like you can.

894
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: You gotta pay him at least this much and that

895
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: is up to you. Oh yeah, I mean we've got

896
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton doing, you know, five to nine. So as

897
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: a follow up to her nine to five, just worked

898
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: felve hours a day because that's what you need to

899
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: do to be able to actually live in this country.

900
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: Yac um. It started with the forties right to work

901
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: laws that gave states the power to determine whether workers

902
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: can be required to join a labor union. UH. Then

903
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: McDonald's UH has a has aggressively attempted or has aggressively

904
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: prevented attempts to unionize in the US. In twenty nineteen,

905
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: several workers were fired for trying to unionize. UH. They

906
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: appealed to the National Labor Relations Board, and the National

907
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: Labor Relations Board sided with McDonald's. So the things they

908
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: did to crushing ugonization was using employees as moles and meetings,

909
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: circulating names of possible pro union employees and coaching franchisees

910
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: on how to avoid hiring people who might organize a workplace. Um,

911
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: which is illegal, but it doesn't didn't stop them from

912
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: doing it. Um start start shedding dollars like that paying people. Yeah,

913
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: but I mean corporate espionage, like all that ship is real,

914
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: Like that's corporations. The devil works hard. Corporations work harder,

915
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: Like they will find a way to you know, a

916
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: spy to you know, make it so that people don't

917
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: feel comfortable taking collective action, yeah, which I think, and

918
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: then so people don't feel comfortable like just in America

919
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: in general, the tone is, we don't want people to

920
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: feel comfortable getting in touch with their power as a collective.

921
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: Now we're so the lack of education around unions and

922
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: like the history of the labor movement in general is

923
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: just I mean, it's it's pathetic how little we're taught

924
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: in school or in any formal formal way about it.

925
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: I think the closest they'll maybe talk about like activision,

926
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: like in other books, will be like the fucking Reddit game,

927
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: stop robin hood fucking crunch, right, and just keep it

928
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: limited to that, like see what happened there? But I

929
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: don't think it's happened any other ways. I mean I

930
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: literally remember being in school and then being like, Eugene

931
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: Debs also ran for president and then he was put

932
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: in jail. But what did you do there? Keep going?

933
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: But but then this other guy one instead, that's fine,

934
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: and that guy just stayed in jail for a long

935
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: time and he was powerful, so he's more interesting. Yeah, exactly.

936
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: And I was just like remember being like, wait, who

937
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: what happened to that guy? Right? Wait? Is labor day

938
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: like about giving birth or something? I don't get that? Yeah, okay, cool.

939
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: Back in back in l A, we call a flavor

940
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: day where you go to thirty one Flavors and get

941
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: any ice cream? Can we rebrand labor Day? Not? I

942
00:55:53,320 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable flavor flavor day? Labor Labe? Where's labor labor?

943
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: The fucking mascot for liver? Fucking unions? Socialist flavor flavor?

944
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: I love this. Maybe this is how we reached the kids.

945
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: Did we just create a TikTok carecter? Remember remember Public Enemy?

946
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: That's the world. Remember the two thousand five show Flavor

947
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: of Love? You guys remember Flavor of Love? Right? Who's

948
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: with me? All right? Chris? What is something you think

949
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: is overrated true crime? Which is so funny considering what

950
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: I was just talking about. I listened to so much

951
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: fucking true crime and this is somewhat somewhat serious. Point

952
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: five thousand people have died from this pandemic and nobody cares,

953
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't even think anybody died

954
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: because they didn't see every single dead body in the

955
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: morgue or whatever do they need now to believe people died?

956
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: And I think true crime has to have something to

957
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 1: do with it. I mean, I hike and listen to

958
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: the most horrendous stories possible, and they don't bother me

959
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: at all because they've replaced Like I listened to them

960
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: the same way I listened to like top forty am

961
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: music when I was growing up. It's just like one

962
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,479
Speaker 1: horrible story after another, and you know, sometimes just skip

963
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: ahead because it's not gruesome enough or whatever whatever. They

964
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: just killed them normal. No oh no, no, I want

965
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: to hear something exotics. I'm trying to have some fun

966
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: for me. I love the juxtaposition of you, Chris going

967
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: on it like a restorative walk through nature and if

968
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: blaring through your skull are just the descriptions of heinous

969
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: crimes and right, But I don't think I'm like because

970
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: it's just it's no. I mean, look, we we we

971
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: work in podcasting. We know firsthand how the genre like

972
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: it performs. People love fucking true crime. And yes, there's

973
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: a lot of things that's very double ed sword because

974
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: a lot of times you're like, these are real people too,

975
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: and like you know, for some people, like a whole

976
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: show made up, like just focused on like this terrible

977
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: thing that happened in their families kind of fucked up.

978
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: But it's only one person and most people don't know them,

979
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: so let's get down. And then we also see it too,

980
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: and like the shows that we like, like we are,

981
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, I mean, do you do you

982
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: think personally you're desensitized from the amount of true crime

983
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: that you listen to. Well, that's what I'm starting to think.

984
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, like, I feel like there's a

985
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: certain segment of the population that thinks like they're not

986
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: gonna die or something like somehow there's some percentage of

987
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 1: us that aren't going to die, and we're just like, oh, yeah,

988
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: that loser who died, you know what I mean, Like

989
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: a loser. Oh what a loser. They ruined the economy

990
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: by dying, or this motherfucker died. Yeah, like like loser

991
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: party foul a sketch on SNL or like a song

992
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: parody that was murder show that was about like, uh.

993
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: It starts off with the girls like husband being like,

994
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta go out and like do something.

995
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: She's like, all right, I'm just gonna like stay home

996
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: and hang out, and then just like the whole song

997
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: is about her watching just gruesome ass murders. But I

998
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: think I think people, I mean, that's the most of

999
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: entertainment is is now. I mean, I don't know if

1000
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: you guys watched that night Stalker documentary, it was really bad.

1001
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm down for whatever true crime usually and that's

1002
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: that was just a terrible documentary. It's basically the interview

1003
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: with like did you see it? Just an interview with

1004
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: like one policeman like the whole time, and that he's

1005
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: not a nice guy and he keeps trying to make

1006
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: himself the hero of the story and anyway, it's it's

1007
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: just disheartening, weird. It's just narciss He's a narcissist. Just

1008
00:59:54,400 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: narcissists um interviewing other narcissists. But anyway, the point is

1009
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: for me is like I think that death is I mean,

1010
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about death. I didn't come

1011
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: on the show to talk about death, but I do

1012
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: think that there's something really weird going on, like not

1013
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: just a little weird, not just like, oh man, people

1014
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: don't care about five thousand people dead, like it's it's

1015
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: truly mind boggling and really really worth investigating because it

1016
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: is not normal. It is not normal. A culture that

1017
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: lets five people die and just keeps talking about businesses

1018
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: opening is a culture that has been completely um brainwashed

1019
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: by this this this American idea that like you just

1020
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: do business and and then everything else falls into place somehow,

1021
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: and and and and and and including like not dying,

1022
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: because dying is never discussed. People don't like to talk

1023
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: about it at all, even though everyone does it and

1024
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: it's one of the best I mean, it's one of

1025
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: the two main things that happens to you in the world.

1026
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: You get born and then you die, and to not

1027
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: ever address it is so lame. And I don't mean

1028
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: it's just playing late. Our culture is so late. It's

1029
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: just like what we're gonna do TikTok videos and then

1030
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: just like one day, you turn off and all your

1031
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: relatives are like, well, I guess she's a loser. Like, oh, well,

1032
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: I guess we thought she was cool. I used to

1033
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: like those videos she made, but then she died, so

1034
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: I guess she was weak or not a good capitalist

1035
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: or something. I've never thought about it like that, but

1036
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: being born and dying are definitely top two things that

1037
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: happened to you. And like it says I was going

1038
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: to say the gravestones of like modern anyway, I can't

1039
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: do TikTok's anymore. TikTok's went downhill, That's what it says

1040
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: on the grave. The Uh yeah, I mean I've mentioned

1041
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: this before, but the Weimar Republic, like right before the

1042
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: rise of Nazism, was massively into true crime and like

1043
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: kind of invented the idea of a true crime obsession.

1044
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think you're totally off that

1045
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: there's like some connection between the sickness of a culture

1046
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: and its obsession with true crime. Like death. Yeah, death

1047
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: is not like you know, death isn't ideally death would

1048
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: not be violent. It's not supposed to be entertainment. I mean,

1049
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: I understand I love true crime, So I'm not saying that.

1050
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just noticing in myself that if you

1051
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: listen to enough Gore, it just starts to feel like,

1052
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, death just somehow becomes more abstract and

1053
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: more like a piece of entertainment or something that's other.

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Speaker 1: I can't quite put my finger on it, but all

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Speaker 1: I know is death should be this awesome thing where

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Speaker 1: you possibly turn into who knows, like a fucking star

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Speaker 1: or something. I mean Caspers. Yeah, and you're out the

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Speaker 1: universe just going like that's all you do. Like you're

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Speaker 1: just a star with like a big spe and they

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01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: don't know because they can't hear way out there of

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Speaker 1: the hell. Yeah, and you're like I used to be crime.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm a star. Yeah, and now I'm like and

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Speaker 1: I'm nude this but I mean yeah, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of the research around true crime, and like

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Speaker 1: especially I remember, like SVU, a lot of people like

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Speaker 1: why are women so into s VU more than men?

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Speaker 1: And like these really dark tales of crime, and like

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Speaker 1: some level is like that people like to It's like

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Speaker 1: about survival is what they found. Like some people want

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Speaker 1: to hear about it because in some way they feel

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Speaker 1: like it can arm them against something befalling them in

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Speaker 1: some way, like on some level, but also like to

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Speaker 1: your point about our mortality, like I think if you're

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Speaker 1: also in denial about it, you may be more interested

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Speaker 1: in preventing it visa v. Listening to true crime and

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Speaker 1: it like sort of really begins to like obscure this

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Speaker 1: relationship to death because I think, especially in the West,

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Speaker 1: it's like a very it's a we we we look

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Speaker 1: at it very strangely, like it's like, oh, this person

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Speaker 1: died and now all of us too are hurting or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But we seldom is it like you know in Eastern cultures,

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Speaker 1: where it's like more like oh, yeah, like it's just

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Speaker 1: our physical we're just transitioning from physical to non physical.

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Speaker 1: But like fear of it, I think, yeah, drive so

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01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: much other exciting. Yeah, death doesn't have to mean it's

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Speaker 1: not just like the end of being able to buy shoes.

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Speaker 1: That's why is a big part of it. But Americans

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Speaker 1: look at like, wow, when I'm dead, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to ever be able to shop online? Right, almost such

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Speaker 1: a lame way to look at it. And then they're

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Speaker 1: gonna end up being stars. And because they weren't thinking

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Speaker 1: about death correctly, they're not gonna get to yell anything.

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Speaker 1: They're just gonna be a star nude hanging there and

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Speaker 1: right next to them. Should have embraced death. I had

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Speaker 1: a healthy attitude about death and you have to listen

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Speaker 1: to it. But um, that's ridiculous. So the I like that.

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Speaker 1: I think you just invented a new concept of the

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Speaker 1: afterlife that I think a lot of people could get behind.

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Speaker 1: I would like to be able to say or, I

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Speaker 1: know that's right. I know that you kind of need

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Speaker 1: a cool star near you so you can say that

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Speaker 1: after they say something cool. I know that's right, after

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Speaker 1: they say anything. I know that's right works after anything.

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Speaker 1: Best thing about it? Hot enough for you? That's right?

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Speaker 1: You say that again? Oh did you not hear me?

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Speaker 1: Is it too hot? All right? That's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: For this week's weekly Zeitgeist, Please like and review the show.

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Speaker 1: If you like the show, Uh means the world to Miles.

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Speaker 1: He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a

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Speaker 1: great weekend and I will talk to him Monday. By Hi,