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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 1: What is up Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire.

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Speaker 1: For Friday, June twenty third, the draft came. The draft

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Speaker 1: went a lot of rumors scuttle about all week about

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Speaker 1: massive trades.

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Speaker 2: It's Zion Williamson on the move.

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Speaker 1: No, no, Damian lillardy could get No, did not get traded,

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Speaker 1: Zac Lavine, Paul George. No big trades during the draft. However,

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Speaker 1: there was a seismic trade that I absolutely hate.

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Speaker 2: We will talk about it later in the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul, Oh, he's going to the Warriors. I'm disappointed.

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Speaker 1: I don't this trade does not make sense. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: kind of shred the Warriors. I don't like it at all.

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Speaker 1: Just quick number. Jordan Poole filling in last year starting

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Speaker 1: at shooting guard, eighteen and two. Chris Pauling doing that, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm very concerned for the Golden State Warrior. So we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that shortly. But first we got to start

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Speaker 1: with the big news. Obviously, the draft went down. Victor

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Speaker 1: wem Minyama goes first, no surprise whatsoever, no drama, it

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Speaker 1: was a done deal. Everybody knows the story. On whe Minyama,

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Speaker 1: the question is like, what's he gonna do next year?

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Speaker 1: Statistic statistically in our Crack staff here on the podcast

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Speaker 1: was like, well, what's a realistic expectation?

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Speaker 2: And I think.

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Speaker 1: I think he could be a top twenty five player

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Speaker 1: in the league next year. I don't think that's an

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Speaker 1: incendiary take. You know, Lebron the pretty much the greatest

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Speaker 1: prospect to come into league before wem Minyama. Lebron average

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Speaker 1: right out of the gate. It was nineteen five and

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Speaker 1: five as a nineteen year old. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: see why wem Benyama can't do twenty ten four blocks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hell, I hope this is possible. The Spurs

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Speaker 1: obviously has to play him enough games and not baby

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Speaker 1: him and do load management on a nineteen year old.

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Speaker 1: But why can't wem ben Yama push for third team

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Speaker 1: All NBA center? We know Jokic is getting one and

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Speaker 1: Bead's getting two. Right, I think the league's out on

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Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert. It sounds like Minnesota might be out of

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Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert if we'll Carl Anthony Town's qualify as a center.

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Speaker 1: If Gobert is there bam out of Bayo, Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know any of those guys get hurt, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, web bin Yama slides right in like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna put up numbers. I don't think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: win a ton, which will hurt his case. But what

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Speaker 1: if wem Binyama has a ridiculous player efficiency rating, you know,

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Speaker 1: if he's able to magically shoot thirty percent thirty five

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Speaker 1: percent from three, I don't know that will happen. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be nineteen. People are gonna look to dunk on

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Speaker 1: him and embarrass him. But I don't see why it's

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Speaker 1: crazy that Victor wem Binyama is gonna be a top

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Speaker 1: twenty five player in the league next year. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go through one through twenty five. But

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Speaker 1: like a guy like Zach Levine to me, is a

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Speaker 1: top twenty player in the league. Jalen Brunson has made

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Speaker 1: it into that top twenty twenty five area. You know,

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Speaker 1: Julius Randall's probably twenty to thirty. Karl Anthony Towns the legend.

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Speaker 1: According to Karl Anthony Towns, He's probably in that twenty

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Speaker 1: of thirty range. You don't think wembin Yama's coming into

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Speaker 1: the league and putting up points and having an impact instantly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the Spurs are gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what they do in free agency.

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Speaker 2: But I don't see.

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Speaker 1: Why wem bin Yama won't push for all NBA thirteen center.

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Speaker 1: I don't see why he won't average twenty and ten

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be impactful.

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Speaker 1: The question will be how do the Spurs handle this?

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Speaker 1: And like, I don't want to go too long term

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Speaker 1: on one bin Yama, but let's be realistic here, Guys.

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Speaker 1: San Antonio got lucky af with Manu Ginobili in the

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Speaker 1: second round, they got lucky with Tony Parker, they struck

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Speaker 1: gold lucky again with Kawhi Leonard. So everything fell for

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Speaker 1: san Antonio. They just hit on everything. Are they doing

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Speaker 1: that again? Are we sure that they're gonna just magically

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Speaker 1: he's not in his seventies. I don't you think Papovitch

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Speaker 1: ten year plan for Webin Yama and Pop.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: There's a world where remember CALVS had Lebron the first

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Speaker 1: can you guys get me something? They got him, Antoine Jamison,

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Speaker 1: Sideshow Bob, everybody remembers him, Ilgauskis, what's the guy at

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Speaker 1: out of here. Like that could easily happen with Weeban Yama.

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Speaker 1: I know it's on his DNA. And historically in recent years,

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Speaker 1: international players have stuck around. But guys, as we know,

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Speaker 1: everything cyclical, there's gonna be a time when the international

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Speaker 1: players are not gonna be like Yanis and Jokic. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be more Americanized. And maybe Luca is the test

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Speaker 2: Here in a couple of years, Luca's like, hey, what

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Speaker 2: out of here like anything's possible.

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Speaker 1: Just because this happened with Yannis and Jokis doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: Luca's gonna fall in line Whatebn yama is. So I'm

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Speaker 1: optimistic for Weemen Yam. I'm fascinated to see what goes down.

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Speaker 1: Very excited that he's entering the NBA. Now at two.

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Speaker 1: There was some drama and here's why. Uh And I'm

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Speaker 1: not I don't know this guy personally. Although I have

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Speaker 1: a lot of Indian in my background, I don't really

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Speaker 1: But Sham Sharania from let's see where he's from Yahoo

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Speaker 1: of other sites. He's an NBA reporter. He's like the

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Speaker 1: second guy after Woaj. So Shams came out on Thursday

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Speaker 1: morning and said there was momentum gaining. I think that

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Speaker 1: was the exact exact phrase you use. I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: the for the exact tweet here, But there is momentum

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Speaker 1: gaining for Scoot Henderson to be the number two pick.

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Speaker 1: This was like nine to thirty in the morning Pacific

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Speaker 1: time on Thursday, to be the number two pick and

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Speaker 1: this is you know, you got like five thousand retweets

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Speaker 1: or whatever the number is. So Schams is employed by FanDuel. Okay,

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Speaker 1: FanDuel off of that tweets shifts the odds on Scoot

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Speaker 1: Henderson to go number two. And what do all these

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Speaker 1: meat balls and bozo gamblers out there who love losing money?

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Speaker 2: What do they do? Oh? Sam said, there's momentum gating.

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Speaker 2: Let me go put money.

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Speaker 1: Now, FanDuel is not going to release the numbers, but

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Speaker 1: I'm curious how much did people bet on Scoot Henderson

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Speaker 1: to go number two? Was it one hundred thousand, two

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Speaker 1: the NBA draft. Gambling legal in a lot of states

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Speaker 1: in America. What are we twenty five twenty six like

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Speaker 1: Shams with a tweet as an insider who's plugged in

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Speaker 1: can move markets, but he's employed by a gambling company. Now, okay,

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Speaker 1: well you guys know what happened. Brandon Miller goes second,

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Speaker 1: and look at the shade from Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN,

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Speaker 2: Come on the pod. We've talked. I'm trying to get

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Speaker 1: You know, the aggregators out there, they want to come

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Speaker 1: after guys. Anyways, we'll see this is Woj after Brandon

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Speaker 1: Miller went second. All along, the entire Charlotte Hornets organization

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Speaker 1: has been all in on Brandon Miller. Ownership, front office, scouts, coaches,

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Speaker 1: they see him as a perennial future All star. So,

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Speaker 1: according to Woj, the Hornets only had eyes for Brandon Miller.

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Speaker 2: They want a big wing. It's a wing league. He's

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Speaker 2: a Paul George type player.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got Shams being way the bleep off here.

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Speaker 2: But what does he care? He was wrong? Doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: all around these.

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Speaker 1: Guys who bet who listened to him and bet on

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Speaker 1: Scoot Henderson to go second. Now I had screwed number

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Speaker 1: two in my mock.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say go bet it. I thought sco. I

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Speaker 2: would have taken it Scoot second.

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Speaker 1: If I were Charlotte, things about have changed if I

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Speaker 1: got them both in the room and interviewed them and

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Speaker 1: all that fun stuff. But based on the talent I've seen,

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Speaker 1: I would go Scoot Henders at second. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: telling you guys go bet on what may or may

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Speaker 1: not happen in that scenario.

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Speaker 2: Now when it comes to a football game, a basketball.

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Speaker 1: Game, heck yeah, I feel confident I'm putting my money

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Speaker 1: in that. I'm not betting on Scoot Henderson go to

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Speaker 1: go second based on some report from Shams. So just

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Speaker 1: a reminder to be careful with what happens with your

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Speaker 1: gambling and these insiders, just be careful.

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Speaker 2: Who you listen to?

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Speaker 1: Final story of the draft, and really nothing that juicy happened.

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Speaker 1: I tried to tell our producers, Hey, hey, I kind

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Speaker 1: of want to talk about how my hak is from

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Speaker 1: UCLA going to the Miami.

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Speaker 2: Heat heat culture.

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Speaker 1: That's a great pick. Jay, Let's stick to the top three.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what about the hood Schaffino kid from Indiana,

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Speaker 1: but he can get some buckets Lakers, Jack Jake.

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Speaker 2: Let's just drill down a little bit on Scoot Henderson.

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Speaker 1: So number three, Scoot Henderson goes. Everybody's like waiting, Oh,

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Speaker 1: is Damian Lillard gonna get traded? Is their interest in

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Speaker 1: Scoot Zion Pelicans? There's a big fat nothing burger.

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Speaker 2: Disappointing.

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Speaker 1: And I think my big takeaway and I think the

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Speaker 1: end for Damian Lillard in Portland, and it kind of

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Speaker 1: has to be right think about it, Damian Lillard wanted

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Speaker 1: the pick traded to bring in some type of veteran

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Speaker 1: or player ready to contribute on a contender immediately, whether

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Speaker 1: that was Michael Bridges, bam At a bio, maybe Zion Williamson.

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Speaker 1: Dame wanted help, and Portland just went ahead and drafted

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Speaker 1: Scoot Henderson.

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Speaker 2: Scoot Henderson is another guard.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 2: Six ' to two.

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Speaker 1: Damian Lillard is about six ' to two ish. Shaden

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Speaker 1: Sharp is a big combo guard pretty much same deal.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Simons, who they paid a lot of money to

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Speaker 1: is also a guard. Like there's a log gym. Portland

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Speaker 1: cannot go into the season with all four of those

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Speaker 2: They cannot.

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Speaker 1: My gut, my guess here is that Damian Lillard is

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Speaker 1: unhappy this morning that he didn't get a guy. There

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Speaker 1: is still the tiny window once the free agency starts,

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Speaker 1: maybe they can make moves around the edges. But to me,

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Speaker 1: that third pick was the big trade chip and for

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Speaker 1: the Portland troubles just to get nothing for it except draft.

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Speaker 2: A really, really good player.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear that Portland has said, Dame,

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Speaker 1: we've tried. Phoenix can go out and get Bradley Beal,

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Speaker 1: the Warriors can go out and get Chris Paul. We

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Speaker 1: And at that point, Damian Lillard will say to Portland.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna come out and say it,

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why. I think Dame will say, guys,

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Speaker 2: All right, Dan, we got it.

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Speaker 1: Dame Lillard's a too much of a class act to

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Speaker 1: That's just not in his DNA. But number two, the

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Speaker 1: guy who's guilty who has to leave. You have to

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Speaker 1: trade him if you're Portland if he says, get me

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Speaker 1: of picks, Bradley Beial fetched nothing. Now, I know Kevin Durant'

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Speaker 1: these trades? No, Yes, Dame's gonna get more than Beal Again.

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Speaker 2: That works for me.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna work in Phoenix. But what is

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way Dame is making I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If I'm Portland, I just want picks,

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Speaker 2: He's all right, can he can he play the three?

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Speaker 1: I don't really think so, And maybe that means that

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Speaker 2: I do wonder would they be interested in Middleton in

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Speaker 1: But then you're like, why am I taking on Middleton's

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Speaker 1: And could it get ugly?

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Speaker 1: I think Portland's sitting pretty because they've got a good

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Speaker 1: After that, though, they don't have a hell of a lot.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll lobby to do a deep dive and we'll

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Speaker 1: get a guest to talk about, you know, Taylor Hendricks

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Speaker 1: to the jack by the way. By the way, billal

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Speaker 1: Coola Bali the teammate of Victor wemen Yama. What went

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Speaker 1: That is a great get for Washington. I'm just telling

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Speaker 1: you now. And I will get to Chris Paul in

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Speaker 1: a second. But the big winner for me when it

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Speaker 1: They got off the Porzingis contract, they didn't get a

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Speaker 1: ton of return. They picked up Tias Jones, big time

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Speaker 1: You're going all out Scoot Henderson, and then the rest

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Speaker 1: just shut it down eventually, you know, wasn't really Scoot

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Speaker 1: didn't do as much after that one Min Yama matchup,

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Speaker 1: But kol Abali pick in Washington interesting. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: give some red meat to the Washington Wizards fans out there.

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Speaker 1: Holy cow, the Golden State Warriors made a colossal mistake.

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Speaker 1: I cannot express how upset I am that the Warriors

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Speaker 1: Chris paul A thirty eight year old, oft injured point

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Speaker 1: have not had during this glorious run, this dynastic run,

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Speaker 1: and they have now shipped off two twenty three year

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Speaker 1: old Jordan Poole, who scored twenty a game. Obviously he

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Speaker 1: had the beef with Draymond Folks. I am on the

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Speaker 1: People are stunned that Golden State, a team that looked

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Speaker 1: I'm worried for my guy, Steph Curry, and I think

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Speaker 1: We gotta have him, Clippers, we got to have them.

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Speaker 2: Know what, We're gonna go and grab Chris Paul.

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Speaker 1: We Mike Dunleavy the new GM taking over for Bob Myers,

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Speaker 1: Mike Dunlevy's first move, first move, well, Draymond Green, he

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green couldn't stand the talking of Jordan Poole, and

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Speaker 1: Golden State paniced and said, oh, look, look, we could

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Speaker 1: get off Pool, we could get older, we can get slower,

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Speaker 1: we can get a guy who doesn't shoot threes, who

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Speaker 1: can't be our energizer, Bunny off the bench. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: I'm immensely disappointed. I know Draymond Greed, obviously of the

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Speaker 1: this Chris Paul move, unless Steph Curry signs off on it. Now,

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry does have a history with Chris Paul, and

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Speaker 1: it's not a good one.

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Speaker 2: Marcus Thompson, the.

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Speaker 1: Great writer in the Bay Area, had come on my

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't like Steph Curry was the one who

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Speaker 2: But Chris Paul, if you.

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Speaker 1: Remember, was with the Lobb City Clippers, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan,

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Speaker 1: Lobb City was taken the lead by storm highlights every week.

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Speaker 1: to come out of the West and challenge Lebron's juggernaut

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Speaker 1: Once they traded Harden and Chris Paul's Clippers. They had

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Speaker 2: It was no fluke.

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Speaker 1: The next year they win seventy three games, the most

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Speaker 2: Three to one.

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Speaker 1: But folks, what's really interesting about that was Chris Paul.

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Speaker 1: It stuck in his craw that Curry zoom passed and

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Speaker 1: And that's when Marcus Thompson shared with me, Oh, Chris

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Speaker 2: After hitting the three, they go up three to two,

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Speaker 2: and then of course.

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Speaker 1: You know what happens, like, you know, two minutes after

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Speaker 2: That's a rap. And Chris Paul and Curry they never

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Speaker 1: the idea that, hey, you know Clay THOMPSONI they're not

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Speaker 2: That's an option.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe they go ultra small Wiggins at the four,

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Speaker 1: But it's a sad day if I'm a Golden State

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Speaker 1: didn't think he was gonna be an All NBA player,

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Speaker 1: but certainly an All Star heading into like the he's

432
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Speaker 1: twenty three years old. Five years from now, Curry is

433
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Speaker 1: not gonna be around, or if he's gonna be around,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna be an All Star, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Clay Thompson, Draymond Green, like, it's gonna be decimated in

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Speaker 1: five years. And that's when Pool will be hitting his prime.

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Speaker 1: Because as much as everybody likes to think, hey, Jason Tatum,

438
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Speaker 1: he's twenty five, the guy's in his prime.

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Speaker 2: Just look at the history of the league.

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Speaker 1: You don't win titles as an alpha until you're really

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eight. That's when it starts. That's when

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Speaker 1: you're at.

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Speaker 2: The peak of your powers.

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Speaker 1: So Pool's just scratching the surface. And now he goes

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Speaker 1: to the Wizards, and listen, they're not gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: They're a fifteen win team.

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Speaker 1: I would guess the Vegas win total nineteen and a half.

448
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Speaker 1: Maybe Trey Jones, the guy they got from Memphis.

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Speaker 2: I like him a lot. He's your point guard.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poole to two, Johnny Davis maybe at the three,

451
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Speaker 1: Cory Kiss, Burt Denny, Avgia is a bad team. Gafford

452
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Speaker 1: is the big We'll see who they get in free agency,

453
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Speaker 1: if anybody, I can't imagine they'll be spending. But this

454
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Speaker 1: is just a Washington team, not a lot to love.

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Speaker 1: If you're Jordan Poole, you are gonna go scors Earth

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Speaker 1: next year. You are gonna be you might he might

457
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Speaker 1: lead the league in shot attempts. We got Josh filling

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Speaker 1: in for Rob here. Josh, there's a chance Jordan Pool

459
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Speaker 1: is like one of the top five scores in the league.

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Speaker 1: I would not be shocked at thirty points per game

461
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Speaker 1: because who's taking the shots on that team.

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Speaker 2: It's gotta be him.

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Speaker 1: He's better than Johnny Davis, kid from Wisconsin, who I

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Speaker 1: don't even know where he was as a rookie. But

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're Washington is a you also got

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Speaker 1: a draft pick in the future. I think it's twenty

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Speaker 1: thirty first round pick. Heavily protected. But again, I think

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Speaker 1: Washington's striking gold with these picks.

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Speaker 3: Man man, Yeah, I think it's a fantastic deal for Washington.

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Speaker 3: And if you're Jordan Poole, you gotta be happy. You're

471
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Speaker 3: gonna get the ultimate green light that you've always wanted

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Speaker 3: all the heat checks he had in Golden State he

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Speaker 3: can now do in Washington. But just to hit your

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Speaker 3: point in Golden State, I have a new idea what

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Speaker 3: they're doing. Like, I can't even logically come up with

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Speaker 3: the basketball reason for why this is happening. Chris Paul

477
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Speaker 3: makes no sense for the offense that they run for

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Speaker 3: the roster that is currently constituted. He is a slow

479
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: it down, pick and roll type of point guard, and

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Speaker 3: the Warriors don't run that. They one split action and

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of off the ball movement and there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of reeds and that's just not what Chris

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Speaker 3: Paul does. And he's one of the best point guards

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Speaker 3: of all time. He's one of my favorite point guards

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Speaker 3: of all time. But from a basketball standpoint, this makes

486
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Speaker 3: absolutely no sense whatsoever. And if you were to tell

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Speaker 3: me that you were going to trade Jordan Poole to

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Speaker 3: the Wizards, why not go after Porzingis? Why weren't they

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Speaker 3: after Porzingis? Why were they after Kyle Kuzma before he

490
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Speaker 3: opted out of his contract. Those are two players from

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Speaker 3: the Wizards that could have fit your system perfectly.

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Speaker 2: And it's almost like Mike.

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Speaker 3: Dumbleave you realized they're having a garage sale and like

494
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Speaker 3: showed up late and like took the last tele So.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point on Kuzma.

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Speaker 1: The only only thing I could think is they're going

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Speaker 1: to just have Chris Paul for this year and that's it.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine that they'd extended. But Kuzma would be

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Speaker 1: a much better fit. Remember Otto Porter had like his

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Speaker 1: moments exactly. Ku Kuzma could have played the four to

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Speaker 1: Draymont's five. Wiggins at the three.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's a great point. I hadn't even thought of Kuzma.

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Speaker 1: He could have been a huge ad, but he would

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Speaker 1: have cost them a lot, and I guess salaries have

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Speaker 1: to be ringed in. Yeah, you had a good point

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Speaker 1: about Chris Paul slowing things down. If you remember against Denver,

507
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Speaker 1: like Chris Paul wasn't really working in that series, and

508
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Speaker 1: what they had to do was speed things up in

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Speaker 1: Game three and four, the ball gets sticky with Chris Paul,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of walking it up. I mean again, guy's

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Speaker 1: thirty eight, he's got a hit rich injury history, and

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Speaker 1: just slowing it down just doesn't seem like the right

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Speaker 1: move and Josh, I'll wrap with this.

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Speaker 2: They tried to thread.

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Speaker 1: The needle between Currie Clay Draymond, the old school guys

516
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Speaker 1: and then these new school guys with James Wiseman, Moses

517
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Speaker 1: Moody kuminga pool. I'm sure I'm forgetting someone, but they

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Speaker 1: tried to navigate that difficult path of Hey, we've got

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Speaker 1: this dynasty. Is there a way possible we can thread

520
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Speaker 1: it with the young guys.

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Speaker 2: And then kind of keep things going.

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Speaker 1: And I think the early returns are on that it

523
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Speaker 1: has been an absolute failure. James Wiseman was traded for

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Speaker 1: virtually nothing. I gotta be honest. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: value that they got back for Jordan Poole is close

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Speaker 1: to anything.

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Speaker 2: And now you gotta.

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Speaker 1: Wonder if you're kaminga are you getting shipped Moses Moody.

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Speaker 1: They seem to like he played pretty well against the Lakers,

530
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Speaker 1: But I don't know. This just feels like, for the

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Speaker 1: first time in a while, I'll go into a season

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Speaker 1: not thinking, Josh, that the Warriors are one of the

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Speaker 1: three or four or five best teams in the league.

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Speaker 2: No, I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: They're a very confusing team. I mean, Warriors fans they

536
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: were claiming for Kaminga to come off the bench last

537
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Speaker 3: year during the playoffs or at least get some playing time,

538
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Speaker 3: and Steve Kerr for whatever reason just did not like

539
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Speaker 3: him or did not trust him in those type of situations.

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Speaker 3: I would assume he's pretty unhappy there. I would think

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Speaker 3: that pool gone.

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00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Moody gets some playing time, but he's not really

544
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Speaker 3: incorporated with the flow of whatever is going on. So

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Speaker 3: it's been a massive failure for sure.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still Denver obviously is the best.

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Speaker 1: Team given what they brought back. I think Phoenix will

549
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Speaker 1: ultimately be better obviously out of the gate. You know,

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Speaker 1: it'll be a little work in progress, but I think

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Speaker 1: Phoenix and Denver are clearly a cut above the next batch.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Memphis will be without John Moran for twenty

553
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Speaker 1: five games, yep. I don't think Minnesota is ready to

554
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Speaker 1: make that leap up there. I think Sacramento's in that

555
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Speaker 1: next batch for sure, but like Clippers, Clippers, maybe those

556
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Speaker 1: for the fences. Yeah, both La Lakers, yep, yep, both

557
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Speaker 1: of them. I think the Clippers a healthy Clippers team

558
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: for sure. I think Sacramento's you know what, I think

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Speaker 1: it seems like like if you had to ask me

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Speaker 1: who was better, the Kings are the Lakers, I gotta

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Speaker 1: be answered.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that.

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Speaker 1: I know Lebron is a tough matchup, but I don't

564
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Speaker 1: think the Kings are like far behind the Lakers. They

565
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Speaker 1: lost in seven at home. I know Fox was injured

566
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: to transcendent Curry performance a fifty burger in Game seven,

567
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: but yeah, I would put the Kings on the same

568
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Speaker 1: level as the Lakers. Let's see about the Clippers, Let's

569
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Speaker 1: see about the Wolves, Let's see about the Grizzlies. I

570
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Speaker 1: think the Warriors are kind of I know they beat Sacramento,

571
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: but again, a year older, you lose an integral bench

572
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Speaker 1: piece and pool. I don't trust Chris Paul, who's gonna

573
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Speaker 1: be thirty nine next May when the playoffs, like second

574
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: round is probably happening. I just don't think this enhances

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Speaker 1: the Warriors playoff chances. I'm just, as a guy who

576
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: is a huge STEPH Curry fan, extremely disappointed. I was

577
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna wear my Curry shirt for this, but I couldn't

578
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: find it. I think I cut the sleeves off, made

579
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: it a pick up basketball shirt. Josh, you should wear

580
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: your Jeremy Lynn shirt next time.

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Speaker 2: I might have to do that. Everyone knows you're a

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Speaker 2: nixt guy.

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Speaker 3: I might have to do that for sure. But I

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Speaker 3: just to reate what you said. I actually think they

585
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Speaker 3: might even take a step back. I mean, you're gonna

586
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: have teams getting better in this offseason. Let's see what

587
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 3: they do in free agency. And let's not forget the

588
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: Warriors were six seed last year, so they weren't a

589
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: top four team to begin with, and they had a

590
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: lot of work to do to actually make up that ground.

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Speaker 3: And I don't see a way that they can do

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00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: that this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: They barely avoided to play in the Pelicans were in

595
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Speaker 1: first in the West. They had a little run. Yep,

596
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: there's another team I'm forgeting. Oh okay, see it's gonna

597
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Speaker 1: be live next year chet Holmgunn comes in the mix. Like,

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Speaker 1: I think they'll have something. This is fascinating Western Conference,

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Speaker 1: and for the first time in a while, the Warriors

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Speaker 1: for me, aren't at the top.

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Speaker 2: I agree

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Speaker 1: The volume