1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to Stephane 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: never told your production of I Heart Radio, all right, Annie, 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if they ever talked about this. Did 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: you have a favorite club or organization that you are 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: part of at any point in time? Because I guess 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: because people are still a part of things now, I'm 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: not necessarily but did you have or an organization that 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: you love or a part of a club? So many things? Um, yes, 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: I think the one that comes to mind like Goofley. 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: I was a part of Humans Versus Zombies in college 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: and I loved it was so fun um. I won't 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: go into it, but it was very light time for 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: me because it will become a different podcast, but it 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: was a very very fun time. UM. And I was 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: also part of something called is SEC, which is French 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: and Stance or something that essentially is UM. It was 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: a kind of professional organization where the goal was cultural 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: understanding and exchange. So we would arrange internships UM for 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: people to go. I did a lot of them UM 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: in different countries. But we would also if people from 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: different countries were arriving on an internship, we would kind 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: of be there like here's where you should go in 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta or somebody that they could talk to or help. 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: And and through that I did a lot of mentoring. Um, 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: I did a lot of I taught a lot of 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: classes and I got to meet a lot of really 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: really awesome, awesome people and dance a lot because that's 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: there's opening dance ceremonies. Oh my, do we have videos 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: of this? Because I need to I need someone to 30 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: tell me if there is. I'm gonna have to start 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: like looking at your friend groups from college to ot. 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: There are some videos out there. Um yeah, you know 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: what I thought about it, I'm like, I don't know, 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: I've ever been a part of a club or organization 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: really and like as an adult, and I feel like 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: as sad, I was like, maybe I should be Maybe 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: I need to look at things. I had been asked 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: to be on boards of things. Is that the same thing? 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: But I realized later that being on a board meant 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: you pay in Oh yeah, And I was like, I 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: feel like this is a racket where you know when 42 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: they have the who's Who's look and you had to 43 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: pay an amount of money to have your name in there, 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: and there's like ten thousand names in there. I felt 45 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: like it was sort of that. But you know, I 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: digress because I can't remember much outside of the fact 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: that I was in a lot of religious organizations and 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: clubs and college and then in high school, I was 49 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: in a few for sure. I was in the Rotary 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: club and I was the president and I got a scholarship. 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: That's what I care about, I know, right right, I 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: think there was like three of us. I was still 53 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: okay with, still okay with. But why are we talking 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: about organizations and initiatives and clubs. Well, today we're switching 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: up a bit for our women around the world. I'm 56 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna stay time stamp this because things change, and new 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: initiatives come through, new organizations come through, and you know, 58 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: times a beast around here. So it is UH. Oh, 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: it's eleven, twenty three or November twenty three, two twenty one, 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: so really coming in close on the UH Thanksgiving holidays 61 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: for US in the US. Not when it's released, it 62 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: will be end of November, which is the last day 63 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: of Native American Heritage Month for the U S. And 64 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: we just wanted to go out with a little bit 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: of a bane. Although it's not necessarily in the U S. 66 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: UH is still considered within North America. So we wanted 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: to talk about a few of the organizations that are 68 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: happening and initiatives that have happened within the Canadian area 69 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: maybe part of the border as well. And yeah, just 70 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: in case you didn't know, we have been talking about 71 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: some phenomenal women who or individuals who are killing it 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: in the world of pushing boundaries, expectations and making change. 73 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: And again we wanted to bring attention to several connected 74 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: initiatives and organizations that have been doing the work and 75 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: the world of missing and murdered Indigenous women, girls and 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: two spirits. Um. Yeah, so today we want to look 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: at brind of Sisters in Spirit. It starts with us 78 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: and the Normal Silence organization in the Canadian area that 79 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: have been working to advocate for the Indigenous communities towards 80 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: the Canadian area and borders. So UM Sisters in Spirit 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: was founded in two thousand four, led by the Native 82 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: Women's Association of Canada or the n w a C. 83 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: The initiative was established to not only get more information 84 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: and data about the unknown statistics in regards to violence 85 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: against Indigenous women in Canada, but to also bring awareness 86 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: of the growing problems of the violence against Indigenous women 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: and the many continue to go missing and are hurt 88 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: or killed, but sometimes not acknowledge are investigated at all 89 00:04:54,000 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: by officials. This campaign was able to establish getting enough 90 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: attention by this initiative like making sure that people are 91 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: understand what's happening. So this helped get a government funding 92 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: to push forward with this initiative. So the Sisters in 93 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: Spirit received a five million dollar grant from the Status 94 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: of Women Canada to research and estimate a reliable number 95 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls. They're able 96 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: to share stories of the families of the victims, able 97 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: to problem solve issues and reasons for the continued violence, 98 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: and they were able to find solutions and increase ways 99 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: to keep those at risk safe. And they were able 100 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: to release the initial reports in two thousand and eight 101 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: with their first document titled Voices of Our Sisters in 102 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: Spirit or Report to Families and Communities, and soon published 103 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: a second one in two thousand nine. These reports were 104 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: able to give quantitative and qualitative data and analysis which 105 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: included stories shared by victims, families and friends, education toolkits 106 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: for communities with safety measures for Indigenous women, outreach and 107 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: support for the community. And though the initiative was disbanded 108 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: in due to the government deciding to not continue with 109 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: the funds, the initiative was able to release a new 110 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: report that gave a detailed history of how caluisation impact 111 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: Indigenous women and identified five two women and girls who 112 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: were missing or murdered at the time. Right So, when 113 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: they disbanded UH, they did a different type of initiative 114 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: with lesser funding under a different title, and many criticized 115 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: this new group, saying it was watering down the previous 116 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: works as well as what was needed to actually get 117 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: the correct number. So many were not happy, and this 118 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: initiative was able to lead to other community based groups 119 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: or initiatives, including the Families of Sisters in Spirit and 120 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: it starts with US as as well. So Families of 121 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: Sisters in Spirit is a grassroots program that started in 122 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, so quickly after the first UH it 123 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: was disbanded. But this program works to support the families 124 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: of the missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls and 125 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: two spirits, whether it's supporting emotionally financially. UH they worked 126 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: to serve the families as they worked to also continue 127 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: to spread awareness within the movement and the victims through fundraisers, campaigns, events, 128 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: and so much more. And this was the answer to 129 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: the government discontinuing funds for the original Sisters in Spirit initiative, 130 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: literally taking it on themselves to fund it so they 131 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: are not getting any money and then trying to do 132 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: it as again grass Roots and continue to work in 133 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: shining light on the ignoring of the missing and murdered 134 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: women and girls and two spirits and they have teamed 135 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: up with it Starts with Us and No More Silence 136 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: to continue to push forward and finding solutions, data and 137 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: a way to support the Indigenous communities, as well as 138 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: tell the stories of the victims and their families and friends. 139 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: And just a quick background on these. No More Silence 140 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: was established in two thousand four to gather data and 141 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the names of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls. 142 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: Co founder Audrey Huntley has been working to bring awareness 143 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: and addicate for the victims and families through this organization, 144 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: as well as documenting and interviewing families and friends within 145 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: the communities, including one called Traces of Missing Women, which 146 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: was a documentary of her research road trip where she 147 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: interviewed forty five family members of victims, right, and it 148 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: starts with us. I think it's the database that kind 149 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: of helped with all of these organizations as well, again 150 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: allowing for the family members and friends of victims to 151 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: come and tell and share their stories as they wanted. 152 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: So it's a really incredible group of people as well 153 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: as the size if you want to go and visit them, 154 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: it does have different documents as well as videos and 155 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: stories and personal accounts. Uh. And just a side note, 156 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: and I feel like we say this every time as 157 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: we are trying to find those people who are doing 158 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: such amazing work researching things interconnected groups. Was it a 159 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: bit difficult? Some of these sites may not may not 160 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: have been updated for a while now is trying to 161 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: get dates. But still we want to talk about them 162 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: UM and what they've been doing, as they have shed 163 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: a lot of light on the dire need of just 164 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: getting correct data. And you know, we are big proponents 165 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: on making sure that research is there and that research 166 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: is complete in who they are looking at and what 167 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: they're looking for UM and one report showed that in 168 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: the data they were able to collect by doing boost 169 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: to the groundwork was very different than the numbers in 170 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: the law enforcement database, meaning UH, it showed a vast 171 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: difference in what was being reported versus what was actually happening. 172 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: There was a bigger number when people were doing the 173 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: boots on the groundwork, uh than what was in law enforcement. 174 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: So that should tell you a lot. And again a 175 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: reminder that oftentimes that these cases are not even taken 176 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: seriously and most likely not in any government database. So 177 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot out there that we don't know. And 178 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: I honestly, researching all of these numbers, my heart hurts 179 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: that it looked like some of the earliest amounts of 180 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: data came from two thousand five two four, when we 181 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: know since the beginning of what was what we know 182 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: as the US UH, there has been so many, so 183 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: many victims out there that are not accounted for. And 184 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: I will say that the families of Sisters in Spirits 185 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: Facebook is current, so I saw things that were posted 186 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: like like fifteen hours ago. Even so, they do have 187 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: a lot of things going on, whether they are doing marches, 188 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: whether they are doing protests, whether they're out there just 189 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: making conversation on what is happening, as well as at 190 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: least highlighting those who are missing that law enforcement may 191 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: not be doing anything about, just to put that out there. 192 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: Um So also with that, if anyone knows more on 193 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: these initiatives and organizations or things that are linked together, 194 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: please let us know. If you're in that area and 195 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: you know about them, you've been involved, or you at 196 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: least have heard what's happening and they have events, tell 197 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: us we want more, we need more information, yes, and 198 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: you can send that information to as at our email 199 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: or dress which is Stephitely, your mom Stuff at i 200 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: heart media dot com. You knows I find us on 201 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: Twitter at mom Stuff podcast or on Instagram at stuff 202 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: and We Never Told you. 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