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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. Cole Jackson is

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Speaker 1: joining us today to break down the film, and you've

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Speaker 1: he's kind of become our resident film expert here. Cole

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Speaker 1: did the pre draft stuff. What was it coming out

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Speaker 1: of the combine? I think we had you going right

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Speaker 1: going into it, going into the combine, that's right, the preview.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to have to do any research before,

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Speaker 2: so just had Cole on and so he prepared me

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Speaker 2: for the combine.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I do remember this. Yeah, you're lazy approach

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Speaker 1: paid off once again. Uh So, yeah, Cole as you

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Speaker 1: well know, you can find him on Twitter at Cole

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Speaker 1: Jackson FB film guy. You know, look at his stuff

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Speaker 1: on YouTube breaking down the Ravens. So, Cole, we want

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Speaker 1: to go through each draft pick and get your notes

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Speaker 1: because you know, I know you had notes on the

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Speaker 1: entire every prospect in the draft. You know probably you

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Speaker 1: know Sala you already had a scout, a full scouting

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Speaker 1: report on solid Dun before he's you know, you knew

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are going to trry back in and get him.

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Speaker 1: You had the full report are done, So we just

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Speaker 1: want to get those notes from you. And let's start

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Speaker 1: right at the top. Zave Flowers, Man, what jumps off

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Speaker 1: a film to you?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely before we jump into the film. You guys know,

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Speaker 3: I love the backstories. One thing that once I started

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Speaker 3: digging into Za that got me really excited was reading

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Speaker 3: about how he had over thirty scholarship offers but chose

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Speaker 3: Boston College specifically for the educational aspect. But then after

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Speaker 3: his junior year he kept turning down nil deals just

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Speaker 3: to stay so he could graduate. So, you know, it

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Speaker 3: really shows, especially with some of the QB and O

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Speaker 3: line issues, because that's one thing that I really focused

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Speaker 3: on doing some of my film breakdowns on Flowers. He

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Speaker 3: made a lot of plays where he didn't actually get

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Speaker 3: the ball, and it's kind of funny. He's, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's wide open down field and then you look back

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Speaker 3: and it's because the QB scrambling or you know, he's

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Speaker 3: just missing missing ZA. So the amount of production he

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Speaker 3: left on the field, I think it doesn't truly show

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Speaker 3: up in his numbers. How effective he was.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's interesting. I just just to comment

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Speaker 1: on that in comparison comparing him to Jordan Addison. Right,

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Speaker 1: here's Jordanasen played with Kenny Pickett at Pitt Right won

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Speaker 1: the blittanikoff right and then Kenny Pickett goes in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and Jordanasis says, well, I'm gonna transfer to I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go to USC and play for next year's number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick. Yeah right, And and so like you see,

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Speaker 1: certainly the quarterback play, the scheme, all that certainly helped

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Speaker 1: him put up the numbers that he did. Now you

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Speaker 1: compare that to z where he played at BC with

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Speaker 1: you know, not the best quarterback, you know, not a

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Speaker 1: prolific offense, and still putting up big time productions last year.

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Speaker 1: And and to your point, Cole, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: good one. Is like you see with Za the confidence,

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Speaker 1: the swagger, like he comes in here and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with it, like I want to retire the number

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Speaker 1: four jersey. You see what you like to see with

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Speaker 1: the personality of a wide receiver, like I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see a little dog in you, you know, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't come with some of the quote unquote diva of

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Speaker 1: like I have to get the ball. I don't like

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Speaker 1: it here at BC because you know, the quarterback I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna transfer, I'm not getting the ball enough. They're missing

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Speaker 1: me on wide open, You're not getting the ball like

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Speaker 1: some of the bad diva stuff you Zay doesn't have

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Speaker 1: that seemingly, you know, and the good diva stuff he has.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I I And the other thing too,

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Speaker 2: is just like the story. We love the story, Cole.

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Speaker 2: I mean you mentioned that, and I think that that's

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Speaker 2: a good point. Like I think that it shows like

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Speaker 2: his commitment, and he was loyal to Loston College.

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Speaker 1: But he said he wanted to come back to him

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Speaker 1: prove his blocking. That was another reason he wanted to

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Speaker 1: come back for a senior which, okay, yeah, that's awesome,

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Speaker 1: right right?

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Speaker 4: Was he telling the truth there?

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Speaker 1: I don't know that's what he said.

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Speaker 2: So all right, So all right, when you look at

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Speaker 2: the tape here on Zay, Cole, like, certainly we know

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Speaker 2: he's got great speed, Like what is it that Like

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Speaker 2: if you could point to one thing that jumps off

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Speaker 3: I think his biggest aspect that is going to benefit

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Speaker 3: And that's I mean there's five six seven clips in

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Speaker 3: So his ability to kind of do that seamlessly and

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Speaker 3: have that explosiveness, I think that's where like I find him.

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Speaker 3: He's a he's a fun comparison to Jordan Adison, not

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Speaker 3: just because of where he was drafted obviously back to back,

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Speaker 3: but he didn't have the explosiveness that say Flowers does,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's what really separates them. And you

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Speaker 3: BC did a good job of trying to get him

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Speaker 3: you know, he catched the ball and then running into

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Speaker 3: basically breaks down success rates based on the film he

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Speaker 3: had Zay Flowers as one of the top guys. He

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Speaker 3: was seventy three point one percent success rate versus man,

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Speaker 3: seventy two point seven against press, and seventy one point

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Speaker 3: four percent in contested catch opportunities. So sure I talked

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Speaker 3: that does matter. It's it's your margin for air. And

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Speaker 3: you know we talk about you know, the deva aspect.

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Speaker 3: He wants the ball when it's in the air, he

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Speaker 3: I think is very important. And those are the things

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Speaker 3: like I've just found through when you read his story.

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Speaker 3: and it seems like he's been that way through his

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Speaker 3: whole career. Went to the East West Shrine Bowl rather

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Speaker 3: it's like he just wants to kind of be that

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Speaker 3: that underdog guy that's gonna fight. His coach talked about

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Speaker 3: how he was on a three win team and he's

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Speaker 3: out there blocking and fighting with tears in his eyes

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Speaker 3: that fire and also bring some explosiveness that this wide

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Speaker 1: I think the yak is really important. Note because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people Garrett included who after Zay was picked,

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Speaker 1: you know, made the comparison to Marquise Brown, right, because

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Speaker 1: okay sure, but quite different in terms of kind of

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Speaker 1: later in his career, but he wasn't really making anybody

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Speaker 1: miss right. He was like, I'm gonna run away from

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Speaker 1: Raven's career, Zay looking dude, Day's looking to like juke

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Speaker 1: it looks like there is like some physicality there a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll run through your face if he gets the opportunity,

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Speaker 3: which we love that. We love that mentality.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the start and stop point that you

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Speaker 2: made is a really good one too. You know that

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Speaker 2: just this it's subtle and like that doesn't come across

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Speaker 2: it's a feel for the game. And I've said this before,

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Speaker 2: but like to me, a thing that like as I've

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Speaker 4: Up on a chart? How do you assess that? It's

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Speaker 4: just difficult? But like, I don't know. To me, you

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Speaker 2: You see it and it's really important and he seems

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Speaker 2: to have like excellent body control and that start stoppability

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Speaker 1: Well, we just got done a film session for listeners

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Speaker 1: out there. The funny thing is about recording this with

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Speaker 1: with Ravens Director of personnel, je Ortiz, who's he's watched

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Speaker 1: a little tape in his day too. Yeah, you know, Cole,

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Speaker 1: And the funny thing is one of the things he

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's not just like downshift and then go back up.

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Speaker 1: It's like you're in you're in fifth gear and you

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Speaker 3: To bulstness, that ability to pace and then explode. And

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Speaker 3: it's just like when you're eating up a cushion and

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Speaker 3: sixth gear, it's like you're that's where cornerbacks get input

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Speaker 3: such a bind, right, but then also his ability to

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Speaker 3: also bring it back and snap off roots. That's where

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Speaker 3: it's hard to play off man against him. And we've

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Speaker 3: seen teams play so much Cover three against the Ravens

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Speaker 3: because they want to keep Lamar Jackson in front of them.

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Speaker 3: They want to be able to spread their defense cover

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Speaker 3: and getting you know, receivers down field with corners and

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Speaker 3: that's what's really exciting and where that fit is going

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Speaker 1: So a big question was Zay obviously is can you

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Speaker 1: play outside? And you know inside and outside and he's

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Speaker 1: certainly not the big X receiver that you traditionally think

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Speaker 1: of as your ex What is it about Zay to

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Speaker 1: you that you see on film that says, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are attributes that will enable him to play outside

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Speaker 3: I think his ability to get off press this it's

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Speaker 3: like this with every You don't see a lot of

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Speaker 3: I think once you dive into his film, after you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I am intrigued by the possibility of,

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Speaker 2: So the next guy, I want to actually about Tavis Robinson.

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Speaker 4: Cole? You're in Ottawa. So there you go.

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Speaker 3: I reached out to him because he coached TV's Robinson

435
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 3: growing up he had nothing but glowing things to say

436
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 3: about him. So it's always cool to kind of do

437
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 3: the a great kid, great Canadian kid, former hockey colleague

438
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,119
Speaker 3: and ready to go.

439
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, I mean that's you got the inside scoop here.

440
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean talk about you got the sources coach these

441
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 2: youth coaches.

442
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Speaker 1: So what do you see as his projection?

443
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 2: Like kind of a late I mean, they Eric mentioned

444
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 2: like the Zadarius Smith comparison a little bit during the

445
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 2: pre draft press conference, and you know what what I

446
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 2: took from that, Like Zadarias Smith was a late bloomer

447
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 2: who played basketball early in his life and football was

448
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: kind of a little bit of an afterthought for him.

449
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 2: Of course, Sadarius Smith has turns out turned out to

450
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 2: be one of the best defensive players in the league.

451
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Speaker 1: So last you guy, wasn't he?

452
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 2: He did play it one of the last chances to

453
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 2: you schools, I believe, or against them.

454
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Speaker 4: I'd have to look that up. I'd have to look

455
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 4: that up. But anyway, with Tavis, like what is your

456
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 4: what's your thought on his you know, prospects and how

457
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 4: he can transition to the NFL.

458
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so it kind of reminded me last year before

459
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 3: they re signed klay As Campbell, they brought in Rashim Green,

460
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 3: they brought in Arden Key, And when that really told

461
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 3: me is they were looking for that kind of more

462
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 3: of a base D N they can move inside and

463
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Speaker 3: rush the passer, and of course that's exactly who Klayus

464
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 3: Campbell is. Unfortunately, Campbell's not going to be back with

465
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 3: the team this year, but that's really the role I

466
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 3: see for him. I know at Old Miss he played

467
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 3: more of like the base four three d N type role,

468
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 3: which makes sense, and I think the Ravens still utilize

469
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 3: that role, especially you know, they're so multiple in their

470
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 3: defensive front that you know, whether he's standing up, whether

471
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 3: he's hands in the ground, he's still kind of playing

472
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 3: that outside edge rusher role. But some of his best

473
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: snaps that I saw in his twenty twenty two film

474
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 3: where when he was sliding inside and kind of playing

475
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 3: as a four I three technique that sort of thing,

476
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Speaker 3: And that's how they like to use Klayus last year,

477
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: like we saw it in against the Bengals. You know,

478
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 3: they got so creative with his alignment, and I think

479
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,719
Speaker 3: that's what they were looking for with this pick, and

480
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 3: it pops out when you watch him on film. His

481
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: best trade is how much power he has in his hands.

482
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 3: It's rare to see guys with that combination of pass

483
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 3: rush moves. It's using club rips, handovers, double swipe moves.

484
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 3: That's a really refined pass rush skill set coming out,

485
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 3: I think, and he pairs that with top notch athleticism.

486
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Speaker 3: This was probably I think it was the most appletic

487
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 3: for the relative athletics scores draft costs the Ravens have

488
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 3: had in like the last five years. So all these

489
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 3: kids are you know, glowing green with raz scores, and

490
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 3: he's bringing that in with great length and that kind

491
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: of refined already pass rush game, which I think is

492
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Speaker 3: the most exciting part because the Ravens flavor at edge

493
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 3: rush lately has been these incredible, incredible athletes who they're

494
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 3: going to develop the pass rush game. That's what you're

495
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 3: getting with David o'jabbo, you know, newer to football, that's

496
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 3: what you're getting with the dafeo away as they're working on,

497
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: you know, developing his pass rush game, and with Robinson,

498
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: he's kind of already got some of that those pieces

499
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 3: together and now it's just about putting together the other

500
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 3: aspects of his game. When they get him in the

501
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 3: weight room, how can you fill out and put together

502
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 3: more of a power game converting speed to power. But

503
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: I thought he had a great year. He put together

504
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 3: twenty one hurries, eleven QB hits, eight sacks, eleven and

505
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: a half pass rushman rate. He also led the FBS

506
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Speaker 3: with five forced fumbles, which did give me David o'jabo

507
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: vibes because that was his buzz coming out of Michigan.

508
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 3: And then when you doing like one of his eight

509
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 3: snaps last year, he did horse fumble. So you know,

510
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: guys with good length that have a knack for the ball,

511
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: you know, those are the ones that excite me. But

512
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: I think when you get him inside with that length

513
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: and that speed against offensive guards, I think he's got

514
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: the huge advantage of knowing how to use his hand

515
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: and having hands and having power in.

516
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: His hands right well. And I think the interesting thing

517
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Speaker 1: to your point is, you know, where does he because

518
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens obviously like more they project him as a

519
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: four to three or three four outside linebacker, stand up guy,

520
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, and really his production last year, that break big,

521
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: breakout season he had was hands in the dirt guy,

522
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: you know. So, do you see him kind of as

523
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: a rush outside linebacker who reduces like you're talking about

524
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Speaker 1: in past rush situations or what.

525
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 3: Hopefully I'm not contradicting Joe here, but I firstly saw him.

526
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Speaker 3: This reminded me a little bit of Paul Krueger when

527
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: he came out. There was a huge question about Paul Krueger.

528
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: Did we beef him up and playing him as five texts.

529
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: Wherever he bounced all over the place.

530
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: That's right, so, or did we lighten him up and

531
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 3: get him outside and where did he finally have his

532
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 3: success in the Super Bowl season? It was lightening him

533
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 3: up and getting him outside. I think the only concern

534
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: I had watching him as kind of that true edge rusher,

535
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 3: which in the Ravens scheme is really that stand up

536
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: three four role. He just didn't have a lot of

537
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: bend in his hips, and that's where it worried me.

538
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 3: I saw him as projecting as more of a power player,

539
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 3: you know, someone that can convert speed to power, someone

540
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: that could really take advantage of guards. That's why I

541
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: really thought he'd move inside. But you know, it's one

542
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: of those things where I think The key is choosing

543
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: a path and just kind of staying true to that

544
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 3: and not having to get into those situations where it's like, well,

545
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: this year you're gonna lose fifty pounds. Next year you're

546
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: going to gain sixty pounds. So it's going to be

547
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 3: really exciting how they choose to use him. I personally

548
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 3: saw him sliding inside and being that kind of five

549
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: technique that can slide into a three technique that I

550
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: don't want to compare to Campbell because Campbell's you know,

551
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: Las Campbell, but that type of role where he's kind

552
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: of that, you know, he could play a little bit

553
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: of base d N for you with his hand in

554
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: the dirt, but he's sliding side and rushed passer on

555
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: pas for you too.

556
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: I also think it's interesting that you talk about his

557
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: kind of repertoire as a rusher in the moves that

558
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: he has despite being, you know, a guy who wasn't

559
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: playing American football, you know, like kind of a late bloomer.

560
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like he you know, he kind of was

561
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: a late bloomer to the sport, you know a little bit,

562
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: and and that to me only shows me that, like, wow,

563
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: he's really taking his craft very seriously. He's a student

564
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: of the game, you know what I mean.

565
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: And now he's working with doctor Rush.

566
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: So that's exactly get the prescription ready, all right?

567
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: So, uh, fifth round pick Kyle blue Kelly, cornerback out

568
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: of Stanford. It's kind of interesting with both Trent Simpson

569
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: Antavius Robinson. It's kind of a question of like how

570
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: the Ravens use him where they play.

571
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: This one's a little easier. I think Kyle Kelly's.

572
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: Going to be a corner so outside inside see, yeah, totally.

573
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: But you mentioned this, you kind of tease it earlier.

574
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: What stood us you was his game against Jordan Addison

575
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: where he just kind of locked him up. You know,

576
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: had had a really good performance against Sam. Is that

577
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: is that the game that you kind of circle and

578
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: you say, like this was him at his best in college?

579
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: I think so. And I know Jordan Adison had that touchdown.

580
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: And so I sent it to one of my buddies

581
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: who was more of a secondary guy, and I was like,

582
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: is he taking outside leverage on Addison because he thinks

583
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: that safety is coming over to help and he was

584
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: adamant that that safety should not have bit he bit

585
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: he bit and he went the right hand side. Addison

586
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: was on the left, so he thought that he was

587
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 3: pushing him more towards the safety, expecting safety help, and

588
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: he got hung out to dry. So I'm not you know,

589
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: I'm not here to judge, but really looked to me

590
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 3: and maybe I'm just a big, you know, Blue Kelly fan,

591
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: but you know, for the one blemish on that game,

592
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 3: you know, I still think he should have had safety

593
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: help there. But it is that that's the game where

594
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, when we heard coach Harbaugh and

595
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: Eric talk about it before in the pre pre draft

596
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: press or, they said, Coach Harbaugh said, I like big, physical,

597
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: press man corners, and they went out and got you know,

598
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: I think he played the thirtieth most press snaps, the

599
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: fourteenth most man snaps in college football last year. So

600
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 3: they got exactly the type of skill set that they're

601
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: always looking for. They want those guys that are gonna

602
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: play up to the line of scrimmage, playpress. And what

603
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: stood in to me going through kind of twenty twenty

604
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: two's tape is how much Stanford trusted him on an island,

605
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: so they would just kind of put him against their

606
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: best wide receiver consistently all game and be like you're

607
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 3: gonna press him and you know you're just not gonna

608
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 3: have help and you're gonna have to kind of deal

609
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: with it. So there's plays that he gives up for sure.

610
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: I think there's some concerns around his long speed and

611
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: you know, there's a little bit of talk of him,

612
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: you know, could he move inside? And I think he

613
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: shows a lot of traits, a lot of quickness, but

614
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: he also shows a lot of physicality. You go back

615
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: to that twenty twenty one game against Drake London when

616
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: they played USC and he's out there bodying up Drake London.

617
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: There's a play in the red zone which was Drake

618
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: London's bread and butter, and Kelly's all over him, you know,

619
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: fighting for the ball. So he just has that Raven's

620
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 3: skill set. He's such a Raven's corner that it just

621
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: made me laugh when they picked him because like, of course,

622
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: they went with one of the more physical pressman corners

623
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: in the in the draft. So a couple of things

624
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: on his tape that really stood out was I've been

625
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 3: really focusing in on and I think I can't remember

626
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: which one of the staffers said it after day one,

627
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: but they said, there's a couple of outside corners that

628
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: we could see making that transition inside. And I'm really

629
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: curious if that's how they see Kelly, not necessarily to

630
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: be a true slot corner, but someone they could move

631
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: around versatile or can use that versatility. But I think

632
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: if you go back to some of those games in

633
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, you can see him. His quickness is

634
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: root recognition, agility, his ability to kind of mirror guys

635
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: right off the line of scrimmage, and that's really what

636
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: you want to see from your slot corner, is that

637
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: ability to kind of stick the guys inside, outside, inside,

638
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: outside releases and really play the variety of roots you're

639
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: gonna see from the slot. So I thought that was

640
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: pretty interesting and I could really see him developing. It

641
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: would take away some of the concerns of the long

642
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: speed where he's getting, you know, quicker guys versus like

643
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: more straight line speed guys. So I think that's what's

644
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: really interesting about Kelly fitting here in Baltimore.

645
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: Well, I think you see the willingness to be a tackler.

646
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's quite as physical as Marlon Humphrey

647
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: and strong a tackler yet in his career as Marlin

648
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: is you know, the cornerback slash linebacker, but I think

649
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: that would obviously be a big part of him going

650
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: into the slot too, is like, can he be a

651
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: very physical tackler in there? I think there Ravens think

652
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: that's a yes.

653
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. He had some drag tackles where he's kind of

654
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: only getting his arm across and not his head across,

655
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: and that's just I think for me, it was more

656
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: technical and not so much willingness, and that's where I

657
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: think you get a a little bit concerned with college

658
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: corners where they don't seem to want to be physical,

659
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: whereas I didn't really get that with Kelly, especially with

660
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: the way he played press. They're one of my favorite

661
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: snaps and I'll tweet it out later today, but one

662
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: of my favorite snaps is when he's he's against Jordan

663
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: Adison impress and he comes across and he knocks Jordan

664
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: Addison back about two steps with how hard he hit

665
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: him right in the chest. And it was actually the

666
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: series after he scored that touchdown, so.

667
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: It's like I'm still here.

668
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: He's like, I know what that happened that I'm going

669
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: to get you the rest of the game. And another

670
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: thing on film that stood out in that game was

671
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: I think he got a little bit worried about some

672
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: of the quick releases Addison could use, so he really

673
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: mixed up his release and he started using softsheet releases

674
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: where he's lined up in press, but he's coming off

675
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: the ball right away and instead of putting his hands

676
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: on you, he's going to release with you. And so

677
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: you get Addison back there kind of hesitating trying to

678
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: set up a release, and Kelly's just kind of sitting back,

679
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: being patient and playing. You know, it's playing right in

680
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: Kelly's hands. So kind of the nuance within the press

681
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: game too stood out to me. It's just a really

682
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: fun game to show all he could do for this team.

683
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, you know, he didn't have a lot

684
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: of ball production this past year because he only didn't

685
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: have a lot of targets either. But he does seem

686
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: to locate the ball well.

687
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: I would say he locates there's I think what he

688
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: does really well is play the catch point, so when

689
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: guys are going up, and he's really long arm, so

690
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: when he's when guys are going up, he's kind of

691
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: playing through where their hands are going. And that's something

692
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: we saw Anthony Averrett do really well when he was

693
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: here too, where you know, he may not be back

694
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: to the ball and getting those kind of interception opportunities,

695
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: but he's consistently using his body to kind of shield

696
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: against the catch. And so I think where he was

697
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: a lot of those happened where he's trying to use

698
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: that recovery speed and catch up to guys if they

699
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: beat him out wide, but he still had the ability

700
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: to kind of recover, track them down and then play

701
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: the catch points. So you know a little bit more

702
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: when he plays kind of off, he does have his

703
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: head to the ball. So it's it's going to be

704
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: interesting how that train leads to the next level.

705
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: All right, Cole, I'll let you introduce the Ravens SIXD.

706
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: I was so excited about this one. So we got Salah,

707
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: oh boy am the lah?

708
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah you did it pretty well? All right, buddy, did

709
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: you have the we did? Did you have the pronunciation?

710
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: Guy right there and I think it's sala? What did

711
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: you How did you say the first name?

712
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: I cheated and said.

713
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: Sala, yeah, move Sala, yeah, I mean I think everyone

714
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: around here is just basically go with Sala. That's just

715
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: that's that's what we're going with.

716
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: We've got enough troubles with the last name. We're going

717
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: with Sala for the first all right, So go ahead.

718
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: What what'd you see from the big, physical organ blocker.

719
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: I saw a big, physical, angry man. I saw he

720
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: was I go right into his team. I actually, I

721
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys noticed this, but for the

722
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: dress rehearsal for the draft, he was the Ravens dress

723
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: rehearsal pick. And I remember looking at Yeah, there's a

724
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: dress rehearsal like on the Tuesday before the draft, and

725
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: they just had random prospects that were assigned to each team,

726
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: and Salah was the Ravens dress rehearsal prosit So I.

727
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: Was I'm gonna start paying at the dress rehearsal.

728
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: So, as you guys know, played right tackle for three

729
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: seasons for the Ducks. He had a couple of spots

730
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: where I think injuries happened and he ended up moving

731
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: into right guards, so you get to see a little

732
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: bit of that. I think he's a guard prospect for

733
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 3: the Ravens. But we know how the Ravens operate. They

734
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: love to get guys that they can develop into multiple

735
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: spots and like a Tyree Phillips recently that was able

736
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: to do that. You know, every year they draft the guard,

737
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: it seems like at some point can't be snapping the

738
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: ball trying to develop that centerability. But I really see

739
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: him kind of playing guard. He has all the physical

740
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: traits that Baltimore always looks for. You know, he's quick,

741
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: he's fast. He jumped really well. Actually at the combine

742
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: he had a nine point five to threetive athletics score

743
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: that ranked him sixty third out of one three hundred

744
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: and twelve Garden prospects since nineteen eighty seven. So the

745
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: athleticism is right up there in the top. And in

746
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: the run game, you see a big, physical, explosive blocker.

747
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: He's coming out of the gates. You know, he's the

748
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: first one on that Oregon line coming out and he

749
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: just wants to absolutely drive you into the ground. It's

750
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: he plays that Georgia game from I think it was

751
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, the yeah, the.

752
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: First Oh we played the Philadelphia Eagles in college.

753
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because he had so many stabs against

754
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: Nolan Smith, which was their their their pick at the

755
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: end of the round. But you know, he's flying out

756
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: of the gates and just anytime he gets a hold

757
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: of someone, he's trying to finish them, put them into

758
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: the ground. So he has that physicality that the Ravens

759
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: love and they want to see more of. They and

760
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 3: Oregon used him as a polar quite a bit. They

761
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: actually used a QB run design counterplay, which is what

762
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: Lamar has been so good at the QB counterbash And

763
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: so they're pulling Sala from a tackle position, but he's

764
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: getting out there as a lead blocker and his athleticism

765
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: looks really good. He's pretty mobile, he's able to locate,

766
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: get his hands on guys. I think again that projects

767
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: really well to inside. You know, with Todd Monkin, we

768
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: might see more zone concepts, so we need him kind

769
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: of coming off those combination blocks and getting out the

770
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: second level and finding linebackers. So seeing him do that

771
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: in college was really good, especially against some of those

772
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: athletic linebackers in past protection. He was playing ot so

773
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's our offensive tackle. So it's hard

774
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: to tell, right, it's how is this going to translate?

775
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: Into the next level. And I think you saw T

776
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: players use the runway, so I always refer to the runway.

777
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: It's kind of you know, when you're lined up in

778
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: a wide nine, they got four or five steps before

779
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: they're going to get to the tackle. And I thought

780
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: he moved really well, but they were able to kind

781
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: of get him on his heels because he was so

782
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 3: focused on vertically setting and they were setting so wide

783
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: against him that it was kind of making him struggle

784
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 3: with his anchor. But if he had a guy head

785
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 3: up on him, or if he was quick setting a guy,

786
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: he was so much more effective. And I think that

787
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 3: really shows the transition into the guard position, because everybody

788
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: thinks you take these big, slower offensive tackles, you move

789
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: them into guard, they're going to be good, but you

790
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: have to be quick and not as fast. So and

791
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: I think Sala has that quickness to his game. He

792
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: has the physicality, has the hand power. So those are

793
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 3: all things that I think are going to make him

794
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: a much better pass protector at the NFL level. As

795
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: a guard, I think he needs to improve some of

796
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: his flexibility. You know, he's kind of a wastebender and

797
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: he gets kind of bending over and losing a little

798
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: bit of his leverage. But those are all things that

799
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: you know are going to come. But one another guy

800
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: that's big on Twitter doing film is Chris Aguilare and

801
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: he put it best. He said, he's a big, physical,

802
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: mean ball of clay for Joe Delas Sanders. So I

803
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: think that's exciting and yeah, don't mess with that ball

804
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: of clay. Yeah.

805
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: Well, I always love hearing your breakdown on offensive line

806
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: prospect because you just know the trenches, I think as

807
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: well as anybody.

808
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: I was just about to say the same exact thing.

809
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: Well, well, great minds take alike, So there we go. Yeah,

810
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: but yeah, I just love your your O line breakdown.

811
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: So just keep it rolling here with Andrew Voorhees.

812
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Because both these guys, you know, they're they're similar in

813
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: the sense of their developmental prospects. Like for he is

814
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: coming off the injury and so he's not going to

815
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: play this year, Sola, you know, I don't expect him

816
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: to play much this year. So both these guys are

817
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: really you're looking at potentially competing for spots really in

818
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: twenty four and beyond. For he's you know, Eric told

819
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: us on the on the lounge when he's when he

820
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: joined us that he probably would have been a maybe

821
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: third or maybe fourth round pick had the injury not occurred.

822
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: Obviously it does occur, and so he ends up falling

823
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: to the seventh. Ravens trade back in and get him.

824
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: But what is your expectation and projection for him as

825
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: a as a guard at the NFL level?

826
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again another guy that had some snaps at

827
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: left tap. He also played both left and right guard,

828
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: so that type of versatility. The Ravens love multiple spots.

829
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: But I think what he really had good athleticism in

830
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: the run game. He was able to get to his mark,

831
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: whether his own or gap played very physical. He really

832
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: lived up to his last name with a finishing mindset

833
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: with the four he's from. I'm assuming his uncle's Jason,

834
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: but I had I had a thread going on Twitter

835
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: and it was just Andrew Voorhees takes his man to

836
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: the ground Part one, Part two, part two. You know,

837
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: as I was rattling those off, I was like, well,

838
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: this is fun. Yeah, But you know where he really

839
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 3: wins is his ability to create leverage with his hands.

840
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: He is shorter armed. I think it does show sometimes,

841
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: but when he's able to get inside get his hands

842
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: on you. He has insane grip strength in both the

843
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: run in the past game. So if he's able to

844
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: get his hands inside on your chest plate, he was

845
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: turning guys. He was completely taking over the leverage point

846
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: where if he had his head inside of you and

847
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: he was you know, say he's doing zone left and

848
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: he has to get his head across, He's able to

849
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: do that with his hands, which is like, that's that's

850
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: hard to do. So to have that type of grip strength.

851
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 3: He also showed it in the past game where once

852
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: he kind of locked guys in and they're trying to

853
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: kind of push off, get him off his chest. They

854
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: just weren't able to. In that regard, he actually reminds

855
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: me a lot of Kevin Zeitler, and I'm super excited.

856
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: That's a guy that he can learn from someone that

857
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: you know plays. Zeitler wins so much in pass protection

858
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: because of his ability to get to his set point,

859
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: his ability to lock in his hands and then to

860
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: keep you exactly where he wants you to go. And

861
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: that's how Voorhis did it in college. Really good pass

862
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: protection from him. He played with a really wide pass

863
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: set and that avoided having to give up any ground

864
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: to kind of set vertically on guys from the inside.

865
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: So I think that's what's really exciting, kind of being

866
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: ready to do that going into the NFL. Obviously he's

867
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: gonna have to overcome the extensive medical history, but you know,

868
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: that's what makes this This is just such a beautiful

869
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: risk because it's all upside. For me, it's a seventh

870
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: round pick, and you know, it's one of those it

871
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: reminds me a lot of David Jabo where you're getting

872
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: a guy that should have been taken much much earlier

873
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 3: and they fell because of injury and you're really only

874
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: losing one year with that player. Yeah, you know, it's

875
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: more than a one year contract. So it's very very exciting.

876
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: Well, the Ravens have a good history of getting guys

877
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: late at the offensive line position and having them develop

878
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: and then they move into starters and then they can

879
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: usually get a big contract elsewhere. Like Ryan Jensen fits that,

880
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: mold Ricky Wagner fits that, mold Patrick McCarey was undrafted,

881
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: but he fits that mold Ben Powers fourth round pick.

882
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: You know, he hees mid round guy. And I just

883
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: got a big contract, Like you could go through history.

884
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: Bradley Boseman is another one.

885
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: Ricky Agner was a tackle.

886
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so like you have these examples of guys

887
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: who end up being late round picks who develop and

888
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: then step into big roles and then get big contracts.

889
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: So I like both those picks as developmental prospects on

890
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: this offensive line. And I think that you know, one

891
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: or maybe both of them, in a couple of years,

892
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: we'll be talking about being a starter and be you know,

893
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 2: playing for a contract.

894
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you could be looking at both Ravens

895
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: starting guards in twenty twenty four or five. Right, No

896
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: quick question for you between left and right guard? Are

897
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: those pretty much interchangeable? If you're if you play one

898
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: spot coming out of college going to the NFL. Is

899
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: it just a handedness thing, like right in with your

900
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: left hand and just you get used to it, or like,

901
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: is there are there certain attributes that make you a

902
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: better right guard versus a left guard? You know what

903
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean? Because Warhe's was what left guard at USC

904
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: and Salam you played both.

905
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 3: But he was left guard last year. Yeah, he had

906
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 3: twenty three games at left guard and twenty at right guard.

907
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so pretty even.

908
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Salah was mostly a right tackle, but you

909
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: are right, like it's it's it's a very common thing.

910
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: You saw like this guy's much higher. But like Penny

911
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 3: Sewell had to switch. It was that two drafts ago

912
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: for the Lions. He had to switch and play the

913
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 3: other side, and he had a huge adjustment period. And

914
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: I think the best way to describe it is, you know,

915
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: go to the bathroom and wipe with the other hand.

916
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: It's just it's different, right, It's some guys pick it

917
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: up quicker, some guys don't.

918
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: And so you got un.

919
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: That's what that's the centers.

920
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead, I diguess.

921
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: That's one thing that I think it's minimized a bit

922
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: at guard. The biggest difficulty where I've seen when trying

923
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: to study offensive line, and we got a big case

924
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: of it with Andre Alejandro villain a wave a few

925
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: years ago, where career left tackle, that's what he's used to.

926
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 3: He comes in here and starts at right tackle before

927
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: Ronnie went back out, and he really struggled with that

928
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: adjustment and it's like it feels the same, it's just

929
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: your switching your foot, but it's that ability to kind

930
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: of take those kicksteps and land on your plant foot

931
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: and then set against the guy and it just feels unnatural.

932
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: It's like almost if you go maybe the Ravens will

933
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: be experiencing this when they go overseas this year driving

934
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: on the other side of the road. You know, it's

935
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: just it's just different. But I do think it's minimized

936
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: at the guard position because the way you take a

937
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 3: kickstep at tackle, you're going a lot more vertically, You're

938
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 3: relying a lot more on that that plant foot, whereas

939
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: you're a little bit more square on the inside, and so

940
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: I think that helps guys a little bit. But there

941
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 3: was a big theory about Ben Cleveland making the switch

942
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: to left guard, how he did look better at right

943
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: guard when he filled him for Kevin Zeitler this year,

944
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: and that was his natural position. So, you know, is

945
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: there going to be a little bit of that. I

946
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: think Andrew Vore he's already showing that ability to kind

947
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: of switch and play different positions, and we've seen that

948
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: with McCarry. You can come in and play all five

949
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: spots for you in a game, which is truly incredible,

950
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: and you know, I think that'll give him a lag

951
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: up trying to be that versatile piece to kind of

952
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: fit into where they need him. But I'd say it

953
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: definitely matters. It's more minimized at guard right.

954
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: Cool. Well, Cole, thank you so much, man, really appreciate it.

955
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: For all listeners out there, make sure you check out

956
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: Cole on Twitter at Cole Jackson f b Puss awesome

957
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: clips always breaking down film and then you know if

958
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: you want to go back. Cole did some writing for us.

959
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: He's not just film guy. He's got some writing chops

960
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: for us and broke down each position group and has

961
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: some really good insights. So I really appreciate that work

962
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: as well. Cole, thank you for joining us and uh yeah,

963
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: we'll be in touch.

964
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: Sounds good. Thank you guys so much for having me.

965
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 4: Awesome man, thank you good stuff.

966
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,239
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Speaker 1: DraftKings dot com Slash Sportsbook. So good stuff from Cole

977
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: got to know these prospects a little bit better and

978
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: what they're going to be bringing. I mean, I think

979
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: that it's we have a lot of high potential guys

980
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: here and and kind of a common theme is like

981
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: where are they gone up play exactly where do they

982
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: fit into the Ravens positionally, you know, Zay inside outside,

983
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: And it seems like everybody kind of has conviction. You know,

984
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: maybe other teams you know, felt differently, and that's why

985
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: they didn't take him, why he was a third wide

986
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: receiver off the board instead of the first. So the

987
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: second was because they have questions about whether we can

988
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: play outside. But it seems like everybody that I hear

989
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: from and talk to, and you know, everybody in Baltimore

990
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: certainly feels like, yeah, he can do both.

991
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Ravens really feel like he can do both.

992
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: Right, And then Trenton Simpson's this kind of jack of

993
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: all trades linebacker. You know where does he help you

994
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: in the mediate? I think it's it's kind of like

995
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: fine ball get ball with him, Like he's so fast

996
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: and like closes so quickly. It's like, you know what,

997
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 1: doude get him on the field and he will track

998
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: down running backs and he and if you know what,

999
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: if they're throwing the ball, he is a great blitzer

1000
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: and can get after quarterbacks too. Like it's like, don't

1001
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: make it too hard in your one fine ball get ball.

1002
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the case.

1003
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: I also, you know, we'll see, but there's a world

1004
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 2: in which, at least early on in the season trent

1005
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: and Simpson is mostly a special teams guy, surely, and his.

1006
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: Role will grow. I think over the course of the year,

1007
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: I'll get more snaps defensively.

1008
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 4: Like it's hard. It's an interesting thought.

1009
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: We actually have this question in mailbag, like who's going

1010
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: to be that nickel corner? You know, Cop Kyle Hamilton

1011
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: is playing more of a traditional strong safety role. So

1012
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: I think Marcus Williams and Kyle Hamilton are going to

1013
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: be your two safeties. So who fills the role that

1014
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton basically played last year? And is it Brandon Stevens.

1015
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: I think it certainly could be. I think Pepe Williams

1016
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: will factor in as a nickel role there, but could Trent,

1017
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: Like does Trent and Simpson fit into that role at all?

1018
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: That to me is like a little tougher to like

1019
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: you're comparing Trent Simpson to Pepe Williams, Like those are

1020
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: two totally different types of players there, and so.

1021
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's more like it's Trenton Simpson kind of like

1022
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton.

1023
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: You're right right, it is it is, And so it's

1024
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: like he's kind of used the third safety like that

1025
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: would be that's the comparison. Maybe maybe, But I don't know.

1026
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if I see that as much as

1027
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: I do more of a traditional like a Brandon Stevenson

1028
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: that role.

1029
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: I guess. Well, I think the wild card here that

1030
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: I mentioned previously was, you know, do they go get

1031
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Adrian Amos free agent safety? That has been rumored that

1032
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: there's that possibility at least that there's interest. Now we

1033
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: all know from there, you don't trust anything that you

1034
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: hear about. Buzz and the Ravens who they're linked to.

1035
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: But you know, there was also a lot of buzz

1036
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: about Rocky sin and that came true. So if they

1037
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: were to sign Adrian Amos, and that's certainly now you know,

1038
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: frees up Kyle Hamilton to do a lot more. You know,

1039
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: he can. He is kind of the third safety, like

1040
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: a Chuck Clark, you know. And yeah, I think that

1041
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: adds to the possibilities as well.

1042
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have some positional flexibility and something we've heard

1043
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: mentioned like a million times as positionless football.

1044
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: I still think, I really do think that Trent and

1045
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Simpson is the Ravens see him as an inside linebacker.

1046
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: It's an inside I agree, like I don't think that

1047
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: they're getting too crazy with his role.

1048
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you, Yeah, I'm with you.

1049
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: And then with Tavius it just continues this position where

1050
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: is he gonna end up? I think they see him

1051
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: as a rush outside linebacker. I know, Cole kind of

1052
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: seasons that d n klays, Campbell Cutter, you know, five technique.

1053
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: I think they Ravens see him Moore as a rush

1054
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: outside linebacker mm hmm.

1055
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: And and part of that could depend on the package.

1056
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: Part of that, part of that could depend on who

1057
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: else you have on the field in terms of like

1058
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: who was on your roster at a given point. I

1059
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: think his point was really good about Mike McDonald, which

1060
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: is I think one of Mike's greatest strengths is that

1061
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: he is creative about finding ways to get the best

1062
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: players on the field.

1063
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: Kyle Hamilton being case in point.

1064
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: Last year, like you know, wasn't playing, you know, was

1065
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: Chuck Clark and Markus Williams as your starting safeties, but

1066
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: we got this guy who's fourteenth overall PICKA.

1067
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 4: Is there a way to use him in creative packages?

1068
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, And I think that like there's and so

1069
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: I think that a way.

1070
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: You can still reduce him like a sus was a

1071
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: rush outside linebacker, but he put his hand in the

1072
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: dirt a fair amount, you know, And so like there's

1073
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: certainly a world in which, you you know, adaphe is

1074
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 1: a rush outside linebacker, right, So there's certainly a world

1075
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: that I could see, even in twenty twenty three, where

1076
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: you have Odafe on one outside line by Ojabo on

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Speaker 1: the other side, and you have Tavius Robinson on the

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Speaker 1: D line, you know, just tucked inside of of Odafe. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: and and Mattabike on the field, and whoever whatever, Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's Trevis Jones, it's whoever, Broderick Washington, you know, rushing

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Speaker 1: the pass or third down situations, like I think you

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Speaker 1: could certainly see him reduced down into a D n roll,

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Speaker 1: But primarily I think they want him to be a

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Speaker 1: stand up three four outside rush linebacker. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 1: physicality in his hands that Cole talked about, like, this

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Speaker 1: is a guy that should be pretty good against the run.

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Speaker 1: You need your rush linebacker to be pretty good against you.

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Speaker 1: You need to be stout. He's a big stout man, yep.

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Speaker 2: And the Ravens value that. The Ravens value these outside

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Speaker 2: edge players. You can set the run, set the edge,

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Speaker 2: and stop the run. So I think that's really important.

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Speaker 2: So in terms of he mentioned and you mentioned during

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Speaker 2: the podcast with a conversation with him that we also

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Speaker 2: talked to Joe Ortiz, we also have a Raven's Press

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Speaker 2: Pass episode posted where Joe Ortiz talk with the local

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Speaker 2: reporters and kind of gave some perspective on this class

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Speaker 2: what he sees from these guys.

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Speaker 4: So go ahead and check that out. Subscribe to the

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Speaker 4: Ravens Press Pass feed.

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Speaker 2: Also, we actually were able to watch Rookie Football School

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Speaker 2: spoiler alert.

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Speaker 4: You know, rookie football school.

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Speaker 2: Is kind of slow going. It's not a full high

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Speaker 2: speed practice, you know, it's pretty limited, and they're learning

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Speaker 2: the offense. A big takeaway from me and hearing from

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Speaker 2: both Todd Monkin and Devin DuVernay is it's particularly Devin DuVernay.

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Speaker 2: Guys are fired up about the direction of this offense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Devin Duvernet said that he thinks Tom Monks

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Speaker 2: up about the direction of that this offense is going

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Speaker 2: and the opportunities that these players are going to have.

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Speaker 2: So I think that that was clear and talking to

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Speaker 2: dub and it matches what we've heard from Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: and other players. So it was a good chance to

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Speaker 2: hear from Duve and then all sejeor Ties and Time

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Speaker 2: Monk and Chris Horton. So all of those press conferences

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Speaker 2: are posted in the Ravens Press Pass feeds. Go ahead

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Speaker 2: and check that out, subscribe and leave a rating and

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Speaker 2: a review on that feed as well as a subscribe

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Speaker 2: here to.

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Speaker 4: The Lounge and leave a rating and review as well.

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Speaker 1: Yep, well, thanks for listening. As always, you can reach

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Speaker 1: us at the lounge at Ravens NFL dot net and

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Speaker 1: we'll be back with you later this week.