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Speaker 1: From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live

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Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give

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Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop

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Speaker 1: on Major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: voter number fifty seven, Rob Parker.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I've been covering Major League baseball for almost

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Speaker 2: forty years now, in New York, in Cincinnati, in Detroit,

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Speaker 2: in LA.

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Speaker 3: I love this game. Let's go. Welcome into the podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Rob Parker. What a show we have

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Speaker 3: for you today?

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Speaker 2: Of course National League Championship Series action.

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Speaker 3: I'm at Dodgers Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Today Brewers Dodgers Game three. We'll talk with ESPNS Doug Lamville,

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Speaker 2: a former Major league outfielder. Plus we'll check in with

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Speaker 2: MLB Network and MLB Now that and much more.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Here comes the big interview.

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Speaker 3: Listen and learn.

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Speaker 4: It's so good.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome in former Major league outfielder Doug Glanville, centerfielder

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Speaker 2: right centerfield.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to play as I got older, I

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Speaker 2: That's why I said outfielder. Anyway, joining us here on

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Speaker 2: Inside the Parker. Just want to ask you about this

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Speaker 2: Dodgers Brewers series. You're here covering it. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: to me, this series should be one one. Dodgers kind

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Speaker 2: of got away with winning Game one in Milwaukee, and

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Speaker 2: then of course they won Game two.

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Speaker 3: How do you look at.

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Speaker 2: This series and are you surprised that the Dodgers are

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Speaker 2: up to Oh?

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, the regular season, we knew the Brewers wiped

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Speaker 4: But when you have Blake Snell and Yamamoto who are.

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Speaker 5: Here for this purpose, right to pitch in the postseason,

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Speaker 5: and they give you that kind of performance, that is

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Speaker 5: how the Dodgers were able to pull out Game one. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: they had that last inning where they went to the

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Speaker 5: that can make that difference to win games. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: Strong Game one and nine strong Game two.

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Speaker 3: But in the postseason you do have to have closures.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: Would have won all those World Series without Mariano.

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Speaker 2: Innings, you're not gonna get that every time out.

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Speaker 3: The bullpen is the weak link on this team and

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Speaker 3: if they are gonna lose or something goes wrong. To me,

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Speaker 5: You gotta get to the bullpen. It's just like you

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Speaker 5: can't steal first. You gotta get to that bullpen, and

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Speaker 5: that means you have to do damage against the starter.

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Speaker 4: That's not happened so far.

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Speaker 5: And that's why the Dodgers can really choose very wisely

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Speaker 4: Now, how can you control that?

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Speaker 5: And that's that's the way that the Brewers can shift

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you about show hal Tani and his struggles.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is not just okay hitting some hard luck.

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Speaker 3: What's happening here?

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Speaker 4: What do you see?

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Speaker 5: Part of Shoeo Tani's game is he's gonna chase. I mean,

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Speaker 3: But don't you have to pitch and play for the moment.

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Speaker 2: He currently is scuffling, so Now, if you're ever going

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Speaker 2: And every time they seem to walk him, Mookie gets walked,

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Speaker 3: Now, this is when we got to get him out. No, Doug,

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Speaker 5: Well, guess what, he's scuffling until he's not, and then

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Speaker 5: So that it's the problem, Like, you do have a

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Speaker 5: So that's why they still walk him. They're still putting

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Speaker 4: They did they have didn't do that.

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Speaker 5: They're starting pitchers often to starting openers just for him,

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Speaker 4: Definitely planning to pitch to him.

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Speaker 5: But when it comes down to it, you're gonna have

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Speaker 4: Be sorry for it.

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Speaker 3: Our guess is Doug Lanville from ESPN.

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Speaker 2: Of course, former major league outfielder broken with the Cubs,

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Speaker 3: No team has repeated.

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Speaker 2: In baseball twenty five years, the Yankees in ninety nine,

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Speaker 3: It's hard to repeat in this game.

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Speaker 2: People think, oh, you got team put together, You're gonna

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Speaker 3: It doesn't happen.

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 5: There's so much information now, there's so many good teams,

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Speaker 5: And the competition is thick. Everybody has the same data

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Speaker 5: Dodgers certainly have the resources to cover their losses, which

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Speaker 3: How about the Brewers.

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Speaker 2: The Brewers and one of those teams they've been good

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Speaker 2: for years, Doug and coming into this postseason, they had

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Speaker 2: lost eleven out of thirteen playoff games. Of course, you

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Speaker 2: here we go the postseason.

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Speaker 3: Milwaukee Brewers have shown up. Is that fair?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not really fair. I mean, they had the

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Speaker 5: But yeah, they've got to go against this juggernaut and

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Speaker 4: We were the real deal.

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Speaker 5: The postseason a little different, as we see with the

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Speaker 5: I think they still have some good baseball left in

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Speaker 3: Well, what's the key in Game three at Dodger Stadium?

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Speaker 4: Dude?

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Speaker 2: Is there really one like you could jump out to

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Speaker 4: That woke up.

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Speaker 2: So so is it just hoping to get a well

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Speaker 3: Is that a way that you could flip this series?

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Speaker 3: If you could knock the.

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Speaker 5: Is that I think the king of the Brewers is

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Speaker 5: just Game three, but game four, game five. Now, how

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Speaker 5: do you do that? You can't control that, but maybe

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Speaker 5: with glass now you can walk a little bit more,

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Speaker 5: maybe you can bunt, maybe you can just contact, you

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Speaker 5: get a break with an error, something to make the

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Speaker 5: game turn out where the pitch, the starting pitcher of

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers isn't controlling everything. That's that's their objective today,

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Speaker 5: and that could make a big difference for multiple games,

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: His name is Doug Lamville, former MLB outfielder and of

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Speaker 2: course ESPN Baseball analyst Always Doug, appreciate your insight.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you Rob.

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Speaker 1: In case you missed Rob Parker on the MLB nextwords,

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Speaker 1: here's his latest appearance on Mlbina.

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Speaker 6: It's showdown time. Rob Parker is here. I so look

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Speaker 6: forward to this. Rob. You're looking good. Great to have

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Speaker 6: you on the show always BK.

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Speaker 1: Let's get at it.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready, all right.

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Speaker 6: Here we go. Shoho Tani hitting one forty seven in

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Speaker 6: the last two series. In nlesser series, he's hitting eighty,

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Speaker 6: slugging zero eighty. What's with Otani right about now?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. I know people don't want to

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Speaker 2: hear it, but the Dodgers actually don't need Otani because

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Speaker 2: he hasn't shown up BK in the postseason. Last year,

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Speaker 2: they won a World Series with him not hitting. I

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Speaker 2: know he was banged up in the World Series and

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Speaker 2: he did bitch and they won a World Series. This year,

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Speaker 2: he's missing in action. If this was Aaron Judge or

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Speaker 2: Did Dodge keep winning without him? So he get there?

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Speaker 6: You know what they are doing. You know what they

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Speaker 6: are doing. He is getting the free pass he just

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Speaker 6: spent in the re pass. They're still intentionally walking him.

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Speaker 6: They're intentionally walking Otani still to load the bases for Betts.

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Speaker 6: Most incredible thing I've seen while he's won for his

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Speaker 6: I'm like, not today, he's not. Clearly he's not today one.

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Speaker 2: It's all for reputation, and sometimes it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: You have to look at the player. Now, he's scuffling.

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Speaker 2: Pitch to him, he's getting itself out. He's struck out

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Speaker 2: fifteen out of what is it, fifteen out of thirty four?

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Speaker 3: Thirty four?

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Speaker 6: I think yeah, forty means maybe, yeah.

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Speaker 3: You're ever gonna go at him. It's now, it's not

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Speaker 6: Be smart, be smart, go at him with a lefty right,

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Speaker 6: What he said through a translator was, I don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it, And at some point they'll make

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Speaker 6: I get the pitching, yeah, but I just gave you.

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Speaker 7: The Dodgers won last year with him not pitching at all,

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Speaker 7: and look at where they are at this point without you.

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Speaker 7: We're in full agreement. How about this, then we'll try this.

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Speaker 7: Because no one seems to agree with me on this.

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Speaker 7: I'm amazed.

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Speaker 6: Where are you on, Bryce Terrag of the Brewers avoiding

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Speaker 6: the hit by pitch with the bases loaded, with two

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Speaker 3: Help me?

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Speaker 2: You gotta get hit, you gotta take it one for

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Speaker 2: the team.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what.

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Speaker 4: Are you jumping out of the way for?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you joy in this?

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Speaker 4: You're right?

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Speaker 6: I take no joy in it, Rob, because, like I know,

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Speaker 6: he felt terrible about it everything. But you have to

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Speaker 6: know the situation. Bases loaded, two outs of the ninth,

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Speaker 6: normal reaction. You can't you're you're you're trained professional. We

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Speaker 2: And the idea that uh people are like, well, that's

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Speaker 2: The guy threw the ball at him right at that situation.

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Speaker 2: Take the hit, we take the base, tie the game,

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Speaker 3: I don't understand it.

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Speaker 6: I know I would have gone HiT's our players here

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Speaker 6: don't know. How would you feel a fastball being thrown out?

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Speaker 6: I guarantee you that's hitting my leg like, it's different.

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Speaker 6: If it's coming at your face, that's different. You gotta

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Speaker 6: get back off that. But it's being thrown at. The

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Speaker 6: the ninth. I'm incredulus. I don't want to beat the

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Speaker 6: I thought was a terrible move.

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Speaker 2: Again, just overmanaging when there's no reason to overmanage.

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Speaker 1: The worst Dave.

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Speaker 2: Roberts move was when he took out Clayton Kershew is

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Speaker 3: Game when eighty pitches through seven innings and they took

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Speaker 2: Hurt down the road made no sense, and in this

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Speaker 1: Let them get in trouble.

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Speaker 2: First, I'm sorry, stop overmanaging, and you're not bringing in

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Speaker 2: Mariano Rivera, okay, and even then still hesitate.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're in complete agreement on this, all right, So

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Speaker 6: Rob your old school where are you on this nonsense

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Speaker 6: that the Dodgers feel they have to think? It's the

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Speaker 6: it's the classy Dodgers, it's hedge fund baseball. And they're

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Speaker 3: Oh you're like you like that?

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Speaker 4: You like that?

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Speaker 1: Here we are, This is where me and you separate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, b K, I'm gonna translate what you're saying to

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Speaker 2: everybody at MLB Networking, MLB Erica.

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Speaker 6: You ready, yeah, go ahead?

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Speaker 4: Rob, Hey, you kids get off.

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Speaker 6: My lord, that's wrong, that's wrong, that's stupid at any age.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry you think that's fine. By the way that

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Speaker 6: those guys are thirty five years old. They're not kids.

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Speaker 4: They're not on my lawn.

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Speaker 6: They're in the Brewer's face.

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Speaker 3: Bet do you see the Brewers game?

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Speaker 4: BK, BK.

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Speaker 3: It ain't that serious.

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Speaker 2: It's a ball game. This is not church, this is

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Speaker 2: not the Supreme Court. It's a ball game. Bekay, Let

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Speaker 2: the kids have fun. If a thirty five year old

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Speaker 2: after he gets a knock, I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 4: Rob.

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Speaker 6: Anytime you're watching with someone who doesn't watch baseball every

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Speaker 6: Dodger game and go, what the hell is that? Literally

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Speaker 6: every single person that goes what is that? What is

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Speaker 6: that that? It's beneath them? You're the Dodgers. If I'm

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Speaker 6: running them, I'd go say, hey, do we need to

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Speaker 6: do that? Why are we doing that? And why shake

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Speaker 6: it in the Brewer's face. We're beating them already. Let

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Speaker 2: Hey, if the Brewers don't like it, don't give up

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Speaker 2: the double. Don't get them don't let them get on base,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know you're not good at it. By

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Speaker 6: the way, I'm better at it than you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you like that.

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Speaker 6: You like that. Hey, Rob, I'm gonna do this on

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Speaker 6: the way out, all right, I'll see you, see you, Rob,

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Speaker 6: you were right for Salt. You're having such a good

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Speaker 6: segment too, and then you lost it. All right, we'll

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Speaker 6: take a break.

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Speaker 4: We gotta go.

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Speaker 2: In the words of New York TV legend the late

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Speaker 2: Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this time until

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Speaker 2: next time.

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Speaker 3: Rob Parker out he can't get it. This could be

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Speaker 3: an inside of Parker.

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Speaker 2: See you next week, same bat time, same Matt station.