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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Welcome to the Buck Brief. This episode, our

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Speaker 2: special guest is Matthew Marsden, actor and filmmaker. You will

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Speaker 2: know him, no doubt, from Blackhawk Down, which I have

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Speaker 2: heard described by some of the most elite special operators

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Speaker 2: of all time as the most accurate war movie they've

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Speaker 2: ever seen, so at least modern war movie they've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Also from Rambo, the most recent Rambo movie with Sebesi Sterlone,

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Speaker 2: as well as other films out there. Oh, the of

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Speaker 2: course Atlas Shrugged. Right, weren't you in the Atlas Shrugged

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Speaker 2: as well?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Man. How's it going, dude?

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Speaker 2: How's life in Texas with your with your like fifty kids?

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Speaker 3: Tell me what's going on?

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Speaker 1: No, it's great. I mean I love it here. You know,

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Speaker 1: the state is amazing. It feels it feels like freedom

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Speaker 1: every day. You know. That's the great thing. It feels

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Speaker 1: like freedom. And I don't have to like dodge homeless

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Speaker 1: people in the streets. Yeah, so that's that.

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Speaker 2: It's always I'm guessing you haven't missed La living all

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Speaker 1: No, you know, I miss I miss my friends out there.

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Speaker 1: Although you know, nine families from my community moved out here,

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Speaker 1: you know, from my close community moved out here, so

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Speaker 1: they all moved to this area. But apart from that,

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Speaker 1: now I don't miss it at all. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's really it's it's quite something. You really you don't

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Speaker 1: realize how actually oppressive it is, you know, until you

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Speaker 1: until you get out of it.

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Speaker 2: You've never met you've never met my dog, Hey, ginger,

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Speaker 2: come here, let's see if on the podcast here for

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Speaker 3: I guess people can only see her.

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Speaker 2: They won't be able to hear her unless she starts barking,

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Speaker 2: which would be bad.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any dogs?

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Speaker 1: I don't, you know. I have kids. I always say that,

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Speaker 1: you know, a clean up enough poop every day from

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Speaker 2: She's under my desk right now and now she's eating

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Speaker 1: Ow.

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Speaker 3: But you've got rabbits. What are rabbits like as a pet?

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Speaker 1: Well, you can always eat themless it goes wrong, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the bonus. But they're actually really sweet.

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Speaker 1: They leave these lop eared rabbits and they just kind

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Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted. I didn't want anyone like,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I said, my kids cause enough terror

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Speaker 1: So right, Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that

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Speaker 1: Well, I think part of the issue is people don't

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Speaker 1: you imagine like Nike coming out I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: so what you've got is identity politics just destroys everything.

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Speaker 1: I know, you know that, but I mean, look, when

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Speaker 1: the main things that I was told, and I knew

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Speaker 1: it anyway, because it's just common sense, is don't alienate

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Speaker 1: any excuse not to like you and so and look,

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Speaker 1: you know if the left haad and come for me,

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Speaker 1: I would never have said anything as an aptit to

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Speaker 1: because you don't want to alienate people. What they're doing

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Speaker 1: all the time, they show contempt. It's so weird. And

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Speaker 1: this is what I've been saying to a lot of

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Speaker 1: conservative don is it's actually an opportunity because they're not

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Speaker 1: making good movies anymore. They're not making movies that have

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Speaker 1: really great storylines with anyone, with things that characters can overcome, right,

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Speaker 1: which is that the old you know, the tried and

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Speaker 1: you have a person there's to have become these obstacles

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Speaker 1: and then they become better for it. Well, what Disney

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Speaker 1: is all they have now is a bunch of girl

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Speaker 1: they don't learn anything, they don't move forward. They're not

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Speaker 1: better for it. They're just massively overpowered. And part of

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Speaker 1: the reason buck is they're doing diversity hires, right, They're

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Speaker 1: not hiring people because they're good anymore. It shouldn't matter, right,

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Speaker 1: it shouldn't matter how good. And you know, people say,

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Speaker 1: documentary Oscars, Well, let me tell you I've made two documentaries.

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Speaker 1: end up going out is they're two very very different

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Speaker 1: animals to motion pictures. Right. So, but you have to

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Speaker 1: ask yourself, why are they hiring these people? And why

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you fire someone that will come out and say

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Speaker 1: I want men to feel uncomfortable as a human being.

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Speaker 1: Why would you want that anyway? But why would you

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Speaker 1: want to filmmaker to do that. I don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand number one on a business level and

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Speaker 1: number two on an actual personal level. Why would you

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Speaker 1: so imagine you're an actor. They're going to be male

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Speaker 1: actors in this film. And that woman just turned around

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Speaker 1: actors are they're going to feel like, oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: not then, because they're special. Okay, what about the cinematographer

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Speaker 1: as well? No, not then. Okay, So your statement's ridiculous

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Speaker 1: on the face of it, and he shows that you

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Speaker 1: don't have any kind of whatever. However, she's however, while

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well, I want to talk to you about

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Speaker 2: the movie that you're making, by the way, which I'm

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Speaker 2: sure is going to be very good or you're going

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Speaker 3: I should say, are you making it, are you in it?

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Speaker 2: Or both?

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Speaker 1: It's done, it's done, it's done. Done.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can't say too much about it because I'm

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Speaker 1: under an NDA, but it is let's put yes, sneaky,

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Speaker 1: have had certainly for me, I might have had some

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Speaker 1: put this Andy Wakefield, doctor Andy Wakefield directed the film,

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Speaker 2: Amazing movie, vague, vague, not read in on this for

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Speaker 2: everyone yet, you know, Secret Squirrel, YadA ya, but going

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Speaker 1: I like this, it's gonna be amazing film.

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Speaker 3: But probably the best.

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Speaker 2: Where some people are saying the best movie that Matthew

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Speaker 2: Marsden's ever made. He's a great guy, Marsden, fantastic, you know,

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Speaker 2: like amazing guy, Like maybe gonna work for me one

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Even people that don't do impressions of Trump have a

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Speaker 3: Into the minds of the American people.

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Speaker 2: Now, like you just you start thinking like, probably the

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Speaker 2: you know? Christopher Walken is also a very unique character

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Speaker 2: and has uniquecharacteristics. So Matthew, let's talk to this general movies.

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