1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte the first face you see in the 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: pilot of Sex and the City Sarah Winters. Here you guys, 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: it's so exciting. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be here. It's it's it's I'm thrilled. 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm so so happy you were my first guest. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: Well, it's very fitting. Yes, I was the first. 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: I know, and you're so adorable. I watched it last night. 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you in the back of that cab 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: with your Louis. 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: And the hat and the gloves in a cab. 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Okay, it was a very interesting group of things. You 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: look incredible and I really was so like pulled into 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: your storyline. And then I'm like, what happened to her? 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: Where did she go? And what happened? We should have 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: had you like continue line and make sure you were okay. Yes, 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: it's not too late the check she'd run into you 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: on the street. 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: But she's doing so well. 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: Now tell you well, maybe she runs a company, maybe 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: she has a CEO. But yeah, it ended in such 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: a it was. This was the best meet cute I 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: think any show I've ever seen. I'm not saying that 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: just because I was the cutie. No you didn't, and 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: I was pretty darnk cute you really years. 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Ago and you still are, come on, you still are. 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: But I thank you. 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: I left. 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: You know, she's a journalist and she's got ye Louis 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: m I was so impressed, and we shot I think 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: it was the Brooklyn Bridge and I remember Susan Seidelman 32 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: was in the taxi crouched on the floor while we're actually. 33 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: Moving, remember that. 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: And uh, it was my first job. It was like 35 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: my first I think it got me into the union. Yeah, 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: I had no idea, No, how did you get the job? 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: So I auditioned and it's so funny. Remember this was like, 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: you know, the mid to late nineties, right ninety seven, 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: it was. I was very excited to audition for a show, 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: but it was people. And the dreams was to get 41 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: on a network show, right like HBO. 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: Was not when it became not by a long show. 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: Now Sarah Jessica Park had already mean Car, so I thought, well, 44 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: it can't be that bad, right, and maybe I'll get 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: a network show after this. Now I would kill to 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: be on an HBO show. 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: But yes, yes, but that yeah, I. 48 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: Auditioned, and I was very excited to meet Susan Sidelman 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: because she had directed desperately and Susan so she had 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: done him a Donna movie and it was all very 51 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: razzle dazzle, and I remember in the audition she said, now, 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: how do you feel there might be a nude scene? 53 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, like yeah, yeah, whatever. 54 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: She said, there's going to be like a bathtub. 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: You'll be covered, but you know, there might be a 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: little bathtub. I think we ran out of time. They 57 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 2: had were going to do a scene in a bathtub. 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: We ended up like just you know, having this like 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: very it was very tasteful. It was like in Cellowet. 60 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: It was really just my top half. 61 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: And again thirty years ago, I look pretty good, incredible, incredible, 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: but I remember it's so weird. I don't remember a 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: lot in my life. I don't remember what my last 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: job was, but I remember so much about this pilot. 65 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: Tell me the read through, the table read okay. 66 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: Yes, tell me, tell me, so we do it because 67 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't remember the. 68 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: Read I remember the read through. 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: I remember seeing you and I didn't even know really 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: who had been cast, Like no one's keeping me up 71 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: to date, Like, so I knew Sarah Jessica Parker was 72 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: going to be and I knew Darren Starr. 73 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: Because of Melury Hill. And when I saw you, I 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, that's Brook from Laura's place. 75 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's so gorgeous. 76 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: Be cool, be cool, be cool, be cool, be cool, 77 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: be cool. 78 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: Be cool. That is definitely how I was sitting, like like, 79 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: be cool, try to be cool, and I was very unstick. 80 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: You stood up when he walked in the room, and you, 81 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: you and Darren hugged, and I thought, oh, yes, of 82 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: course they know each other because of because she was 83 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: Brook and Sarah Jessica was And I remember we started 84 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: reading and Sarah was cross out anything that said Carrie 85 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 2: walks in with a sexy, gorgeous hot and it wasn't 86 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: It was not a disrespectful to the writer kind of 87 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: thing that she kept crossing it out like people were laughing, 88 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: but she was just like And I remember the person 89 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: that they had cast to play the boyfriend was not 90 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: the person that wound up getting the job on set. 91 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: I was surprised when I got on set. 92 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: They had cast Christopher Lawford, who was John Kennedy Junior's cousin. Yes, 93 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: he was at the read through, and I remember thinking, yes, 94 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: I remember thinking that's perfect to have like this Kennedy, Yes, Kennedy. 95 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I understood Kennedy. What the heck? Yes? And he 96 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: had been an actor. 97 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: What happened? 98 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: What happened? 99 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: I want to know, did he become unavailable? 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he did? 101 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: Did something happen maybe yes? Because none of us knew. 102 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: He didn't know what this show was, I mean, and 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: I remember Kim at the end of the read through 104 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: went teen more and I was like, what is. 105 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: That even mean? Like what is thirteen? 106 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: And I realized contract TV and TV yeah, and that's 107 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: a contract, you know, and that's and I was. 108 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, thirteen more. 109 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: And even though I knew my character ended and I 110 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: wasn't gonna you know, but uh yeah, And I wound 111 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: up kind of being the first person to have sex 112 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: on sex. 113 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 3: In the city, I know. 114 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: And this this is what I remember of that, right. 115 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: So when we so we we did this show. Obviously, 116 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: we were all very excited and I really really desperately 117 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: wanted my part, but we were nervous because do you 118 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: remember the show dream On that had been on HBO 119 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: and like every week some girl would just for some 120 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: reason take her dive off, like just randomly kind of 121 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: like we were like, is this what we're supposed to do? 122 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: Like please know? Like even though we were scared, right, 123 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: we didn't really know. As I was telling everyone before too, 124 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: we didn't know how people would respond to kind of 125 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: the very upfront way that we were talking about sexuality 126 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: because at that point it hadn't really been done on 127 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: TA right, yeah, and cable was a weird thing, Like 128 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: it was all very unknown, and so I remember being 129 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: really nervous, and we didn't have clauses in our contract 130 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: at that point that we had to be new or 131 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: that we did whatever we because we were all panicked, 132 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: like we don't work, scared, right. And the day that 133 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: you had to do that news scene, I was in 134 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: the hair and makeup trailer getting ready for whatever, like 135 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: talking on the phone or something boring, and they came in. 136 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: One of the makeup artists came running. 137 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: Like, we need cups of ice for Sarah Winter. Go, 138 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: oh my god, right, I for my nipples? Like I 139 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: who knew that that. 140 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: Was the thing. 141 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: I did not know either. 142 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: I was trying to be so cool you did, and collected. 143 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: You did, but they needed ice. 144 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: I know, we were really impressed. 145 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: We were panicked. But also maybe that's why they look 146 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: so good. They look fantastic ice. I know it worked, 147 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: it worked of ice, it worked us. 148 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: But all of this said, and then they ran back 149 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: ot with like, what is going on? 150 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's like a thing. 151 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like. 152 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: No one's ever offered me I since and no one 153 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: offers me I. You know, I don't do those kinds 154 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: of scenes anymore. But yeah, you did it well. Well 155 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: you really see like you were fine. 156 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: You know I was. 157 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: I think Susan, you know, having a female director obviously 158 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: was really helpful. And I didn't realize at that point, 159 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: this being my first like TV experience, that that's quite rare. 160 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: That was rare, certainly definitely, you know, in nineteen ninety seven, 161 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: I think it was, and uh, yeah it was. 162 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 3: It was wild. 163 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: I remember you came into the makeup trailer once and 164 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: we had no scenes together, and they cut your hair 165 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: like you had like it was like a lob and 166 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: you and you came into the makeup rool and you're like, 167 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: well it's sporty. 168 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Kind of sporty. 169 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: I hated so good, but I could tell you it 170 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: was like not they made me do it? 171 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was so like did she need to 172 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: have like a bob? 173 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: I know. 174 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: It all worked out, I mean, but the pilot was 175 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: so very different to the how it all looked. I 176 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: mean it was dark, so dark, you all talked to 177 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: the camera all it was nothing about fashion. 178 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: In fact, I had all the fashion. 179 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: I didn't have Pat yet I had. 180 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: You didn't have Pat, right, but you had I had 181 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: some I had. 182 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: Remember they put me in my first pair of Manolo blonde. 183 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: And another funny thing I remember is there's a brief 184 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: scene with a real estate agent. 185 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: In the yeah, walking to Do you know who she was? Yes? 186 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: I do. She was married to Rudy Giuliani at the time. 187 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: I know. 188 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: It was weird, right, it was. 189 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: We had security onset. 190 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: We later did a play and she was like, do 191 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: you remember when I came on the pilot? Yeah, yeah, 192 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: that was herzar. 193 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: It was bizarre, right, Yeah it was. And I knew 194 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: she was. 195 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: I lived in New York and she was actually co 196 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: host of a like good Morning New York one of 197 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: those yeah and wow, and. 198 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah that was like trippy, trippy, very trippy. 199 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 200 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: And so let me ask you, how, so you have good, 201 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: good memories of the pilot. Do you have memories of 202 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: because we waited a long time for the show to 203 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: be picked up, do you remember that. 204 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: I remembered like, oh, maybe it's not gonna happen. You know, 205 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,119 Speaker 2: I had at that point done. 206 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: Like a movie. I had moved to Los Angeles. 207 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: And then I heard it, Actually, it's they've made it's 208 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 2: it's becoming a series. You haven't been cut, Yeah, I 209 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: haven't been cut. Yes, it would have been a lot 210 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: cutting a lot of scenes and even though it was short, 211 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: like we shop for a week, you know. 212 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: There were a lot of little pieces. Yeah, and that 213 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: was the thing. The really we we filmed crazy hours. 214 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, Ye the pilot, 215 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: Ye hours. And everyone would be like why. It's because 216 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: all those little scenes had to be connected by the 217 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: voiceover later, not so much in the pilot, but to 218 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: make it to tell a story. We were trying to 219 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: tell a story through tiny little scenes. That's hard to 220 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: shoot right because you have to go to the different 221 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: locations and set up. But that's what's so great about 222 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: your part of the thing, but also frustrating because we 223 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: don't continue with you. 224 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: It's so sad, I know, and I think, you know, 225 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: when I was reminded like. 226 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: Hey, you're the first person to have sex and sixty c. 227 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, I was. 228 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: I was also the first person to be ghosted before 229 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: ghosting was. 230 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: I know, we didn't have the name, right, we didn't 231 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: have a name. 232 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: But we've all you know, we know what it is. 233 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: And it was so kind of sad. And over the years, 234 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: you know, through I mean, the show went for such 235 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: a long time. It's such an incredible part of you know, culture, 236 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: then the movies and now you know what you're doing 237 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: now and just like that it you know, I've wondered, 238 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: like you know, and there's been such triumph. But the women, 239 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's such like we're not beaten down by 240 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: these women that it doesn't end our lives. 241 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: You know, you move on. 242 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, but I feel like my character had all 243 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: her you know triumphs off camera. 244 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: Yes, she found love, she found a great guy. Thank god, thank. 245 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: God, thank God helps me not one of the guys 246 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: in the pilot, because they're all. 247 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: They're all horrible people, and they're out there with how 248 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: horrible they are. 249 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: Then pretending totally, which I guess is something like people 250 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: to be said for. 251 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: That's something to be said. 252 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: For just putting out how what a rotten human being 253 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: you are instead of pretending like you're you know, because 254 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: that I come into. 255 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: That, Well, that's what's annoying about your guy is that 256 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: he's all like kind of glamorous prince churning and then 257 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: he's just like gone, so frustrating, And it's funny that 258 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: we didn't have the term ghosting. And then I mean, 259 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: in my little notes, they they want me to say 260 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: if I've ever been ghosted or have I ever ghosted anyone? 261 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Which I think is a hysterical question. And my manager 262 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: was like Christen's date was like Christin never been ghosted? No, 263 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: I did have to think back a long time ago 264 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: I was ghosted, though it was I don't know. I 265 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: don't know exactly. I mean, it's hard to define ghosting exactly. 266 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: I do think it was when there were cell phones, 267 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: because obviously now ghosting is more a text thing, right, 268 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: and back then it was cell phones were neat. But 269 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: I did one time date this at work actor. I 270 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: think this was before Sex and the City, maybe between 271 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: Melrose and Sex and City or maybe when I was 272 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: on Melrose. I don't know. He's now very successful. He 273 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: was very talented, but at the time I had money 274 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: because I'd been working, and I was at his house 275 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: and he had all of these like you're like, Tristy's 276 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: going to be turned off, like all those notices that 277 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: you get when, like, you know, you can't pay your bills. 278 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: They were all just all over his house, right, And 279 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: I was like, uh, you know what's happening. And then 280 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: I think he wrecked his motorcycle, which is like how 281 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: he got around town to his auditions. And I was like, 282 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, can I lend you some money? 283 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: Horrible kiss of death? 284 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: Right, yes, so, and anyone listening, do not lend any 285 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: money that you are dating, Okay, do not do it. No, 286 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: you never get the money back right there. And it 287 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: really irked me. So then I lent him money. You know. 288 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: It changed the dynamic in a horrible way. And it 289 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: was a kind of a casual thing, right, So I 290 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: probably should have known better, you know what I'm saying, 291 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: But I just thought, like I can help I should 292 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: help this guy. He's so talented, which he is, lend 293 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: him money. I think it was all of five thousand 294 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: dollars a lot of money. Well, thank you, thank you 295 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: very nice. Yes, So I lent him this money and 296 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: then you know, he stopped stopped calling, and I'm like, 297 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: what the heck. So I remember going over to his apartment, 298 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: like banging on the door, and his dog was in there, 299 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: and I loved his dog and I could hear his dog, 300 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: but I was like, is he in there? And pretending 301 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: that he is not in there Jordan's saying, and I 302 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: was like And then later on he did call me. 303 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: He's like, did you come to my house and bang 304 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: on my door? And I was like, well, yes, yeah, yeah. 305 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: He was like I know right. I felt so embarrassed, 306 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: like being messy, Like I was like messy. But then 307 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: I was like, well you remember how the money, No 308 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: I haven't. 309 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: You had every right to know. I want to see that. 310 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: That's like a movie, that's a show. 311 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: So this is a successful actor. 312 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: Well I think what let's add up? Like what with interest? 313 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: With interest? 314 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: I ever, I just would love some acknowledgment arrivor, which 315 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: is like kind of a fantasy or whatnot. But you know, 316 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: it is funny, but that was the best story. 317 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: Store again, would let's. 318 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: Store a country, and he's married with some children, so 319 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to show up. 320 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: He probably doesn't the dog anymore. 321 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: No, I think he has numerous animals. 322 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: All right, Well, you know, you live and learn, but 323 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: you do you do. 324 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: I can't say that's the last time that I did well. 325 00:14:49,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: I think the next time was the last time. What 326 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: about you ghosting? 327 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: Well, I let's see, I don't think. I don't think 328 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: I could ever go someone. 329 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: You know. 330 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: I can't picture you, and I didn't really date as 331 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,479 Speaker 3: a young person. I was always in relationships. 332 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: I've been married and I have kids now and I'm divorced, 333 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: so I'm dating like now, which is very weird. 334 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: I like to think it's a bit more grown up. 335 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: If I meet someone or we go on a date 336 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: or two and I don't feel something, I just say, like, 337 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: it's lovely to meet you. 338 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: You're a great guy. 339 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: I don't feel a connection, but I wish you all 340 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: the best, you know, and that's sort of my thing. 341 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: That's good. 342 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: I don't think I've been ghosted in the traditional sense. 343 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: I would never go thank you, and I can take it, 344 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, if someone says you know, I 345 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: think you're great, but I you know, you have young 346 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: kids or you have you know, you live on the 347 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: other side of the country. I'm like, thank you for 348 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: telling me. 349 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: That's good luck. 350 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: You know what I want to be as grown ups? 351 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: Right? Evil? 352 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: No, I agree, I agree, but it is I think 353 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: it is such a good and interesting thing to talk 354 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: about because I do think that young people are often 355 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: going through this, you know, men and women, right, And 356 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: I think it's such a hard thing because you're just 357 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: left there wondering. 358 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: Like with the three dots, right, like are they awful? 359 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: Awful? 360 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: Are they going to awful? Just say it right, like 361 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: how bad can it be? 362 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: Totally? But now we do have social media so you 363 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: can go try to, you know, investigate what's happening, right, 364 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: but which. 365 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: Is then it's a way of yours And I had 366 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: to take I took Instagram off my phone a couple 367 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: of years ago, and it was one of the best 368 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: things I ever did. 369 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: Have it on my iPad, But I keep my iPad 370 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: in my bedroom. 371 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: Smart limit that realize how much. 372 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: Time I was spending looking at things that made me 373 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: feel like like why. 374 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: Am I doing this? 375 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: My Instagram feed is all dogs? 376 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: Well that's the way to go. Yeah, I know you. 377 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and the puppies. I want to see the 378 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: puppies get adopted. It's really nice, you know what I mean. 379 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 3: And also I'm using it for good right right, because there. 380 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Are there are such positive things, you know, on there, 381 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: but there's also such toxic things and you know, you 382 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: got to protect the kids from. 383 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: That and the grown ass women who are good good 384 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: point the point from feeling yeah, like crap, but no, 385 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: that's not worth it. 386 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing's worth it. 387 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 1: You're writing now, I'm writing. 388 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm developing a limited series with my writing partner, 389 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: and who knows where it will land. You know, I 390 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: would like if anyone's out there listening and they want 391 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: to read an incredible chow for women that's basically a 392 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: delicious revenge tale of beautiful people doing bad things. 393 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: Wow, hit me up. Yeah. So I'm excited about that. 394 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: And I wrote an article that got published Infanity Fair, 395 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: which I was really proud of, Yeah, because I've never 396 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: written anything before and yeah, that was I was really. 397 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: Proud of that. 398 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: So it's amazing. 399 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 3: And it produced a movie sort of based on. 400 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: That topic with Amanda Seifried, and yeah, I just but 401 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: I miss acting. 402 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: I do. I do miss acting, Yeah, I want to. 403 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: I miss telling stories from that perspective, you know, writing 404 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: writing my own stories is fun, but and I'd like 405 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: to continue to do that. But I do want to 406 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: get back in front of the camera and and you know, 407 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 2: not not in a leading role, not in a you know, 408 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 2: I'm not in that part of my career anymore, but 409 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: just you know, pop in here and. 410 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: There, you know, Yeah, I would love I'd love to 411 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: do more of that. 412 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: It's so interesting because like, for the longest time, I 413 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: didn't really miss acting. I didn't go that long without acting, 414 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: but like sometimes I was like, you know, when I 415 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: was young, I needed I needed to be acting in 416 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: some form, right, like on camera, in theater, whatever it was. 417 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was having kids, and 418 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: that kind of takes on a whole creative side of 419 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: you in a different way, yes, like an emotional side, 420 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: but like I didn't need it as much. But then 421 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: the funny thing is when we did go back to 422 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: do and just like that, because we're with Michael p 423 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: and you know everybody, you know, we've been together so long, 424 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: I had all this pent up emotion. 425 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't really realize. 426 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: Wow, it was interesting. Interesting. 427 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: Then you had an outlet I did. 428 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: I was like, well, this right, why we love it? 429 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: Right? 430 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: It is that great? 431 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we you know, when you step away, you know, 432 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: you become a parent, you are fulfilled in other ways 433 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: and you and you don't. 434 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: Crave that creative like. 435 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: Also, it's like a family being on set, and if 436 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: you have a family at home, you know, it's different, 437 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: it's a different you know, things shift. But yeah, stepping 438 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: back into it having stepped away is so sweet. 439 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: It is it is. It's fun. 440 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. And also you've had Charlotte in your life for 441 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: so long now and to be able to watch you, 442 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine like playing the. 443 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: Role, and you play her so beautifully with such a heart. 444 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: You uh, you're. 445 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: You've given us hope, like Charlotte has always had hope. 446 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: The eternal optimist, so true. And I feel like. 447 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: She got knocked down, she got back up, and she 448 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: believed she would meet her husband, she believed she would 449 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: have her children. 450 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: It didn't look the way she thought. 451 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: You know, I think you know, for people, for myself 452 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: that watch it, it's really that sense of hope that 453 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: was so beautiful and poignant to watch and to see 454 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: you have loss and pain and get back up and 455 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: was really, yeah, I. 456 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Think, ask you, yeah, are you a Charlotte? 457 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: Am I a Charlotte? 458 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to say yes, But it has changed for me. 459 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: I think back in the day, you know, when we 460 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: first met Charlotte, I felt like I was a Charlotte 461 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: because I kind of modeled myself along being a bit 462 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: of a rule follower, having a protocol with dating and 463 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: men and being a lady and that was always very 464 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: important to me, and being buttoned up, having boundaries. 465 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: And I think now. 466 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm as Charlotte in the way that you know, we've 467 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: got to know Charlotte in what I just sort of 468 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: referenced her eternal optimism and not losing hope. And also 469 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: something really important that you portrayed and your storyline, at 470 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: least for me, was that happiness doesn't have to be 471 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: what you think it's going to look like. You know, 472 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: we imagine it's going to be a certain guy, you know, 473 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: or you're gonna have kids a certain way in that 474 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: and you check off all those and what was amazing, 475 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: And I've had this in my own life and sometimes 476 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: the guy is right in front of you. 477 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 3: You know, you don't realize it's going. 478 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: You know, someone you look at this abstract idea of 479 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: like a Wall Street guy or you know, a tray, 480 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 2: you know, having biological truth. You know, you got your Harry, 481 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: you got your Baby's doesn't look the way, you know, 482 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: And I think that is a really nice thing to 483 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: remember that sometimes they'll happen in a way that's unexpected. 484 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: To stay open hearted, you know, And I think that's 485 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: what I want to maintain as the Charlotte in me, 486 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: like not losing hope. 487 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to get that role. I'm going to make 488 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: that guy. 489 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: It's all gonna work out, and it does, you know 490 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: it all you know in life, you know, of course 491 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: ups and downs, and you know you can have many 492 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: happy endings and happy you know episodes, you know, chapters 493 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: in your in your life. 494 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: So it was a very long winded way of saying, 495 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: I'm a Charlotte. I love it, I'm Charlotte. 496 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: That was a good, deep way because you're right, we 497 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: have known her a long time and it means different 498 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: things at different times, right, And that's what's great about 499 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: playing a character for so long, obviously, but also like 500 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: in something where people can relate, and that's kind of 501 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: why I wanted to do this podcast, just to be 502 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: able to, like, I love to hear the fans stories, 503 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: you know, when I'm out in the world, and they 504 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: always have something really interesting that they can pull from it. 505 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe you know, obviously every character has 506 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: something super important to pull from. It's not like Charlotte 507 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: is different or special or whatever. I just happen to 508 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: play her, I mean, so, but like for me, I'm 509 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: Parlot Charlotte Park Carrie, you know, because I feel like 510 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: Carrie's always kind of searching and digging and you know, 511 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: who am I How do I fit into this this 512 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: scenario or who do I want to be in this scenario? 513 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: And I'm more of that in certain ways in my 514 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: real life than I am of a Charlotte where she 515 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: had so many goals. You know, she really did have 516 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: these goals, and I think that also is why she 517 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: fell down a lot, because the goals were so specific, right, 518 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: But then she was able to learn from them, you know, 519 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: to learn from the things that didn't go how she 520 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: expected to be more open to the other things that 521 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: might have been there all along, which I think is 522 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: so important. I mean, I have to tell myself this too, 523 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, ongoingly never ends, really it ends. But it's 524 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: so interesting to think about. 525 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: The purity though of you. 526 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: And that character was like we all we root for 527 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: all of you, you know, to get what you want. 528 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: But you had such a pure it's a pure heart, 529 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: you know, and when you got hurt, we all felt 530 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: hurt for you. Thank you, And that's it made the 531 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: triumph so much more sweet good. 532 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 533 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: When I watched that pilot last night, oh my god, 534 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: I was like, how crazy. I'm like a little child. 535 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: We're babyfaces, really babies. 536 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: And I said earlier, I'm like a puppy, like a 537 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: baby puppy, right right, Yeah, this is what I was thinking. 538 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: I was like, my god, I'm glad it worked out, 539 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: like oh yeah, yeah me for her. 540 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because like I was like, wow, the nineties 541 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 2: in New York was it was a different time. 542 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: It looks so different in the pilot, so different seventies. 543 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I will yeah, I was there. 544 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: I would go to visit. My parents would take me 545 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: to Like I saw Sarah and Annie when we. 546 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: Were Oh my god, what wonderful sous. 547 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know her. I saw her, and I mean 548 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: I remember Times Square in the seventies was like you. 549 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: Would never got her, right no, And in the nineties 550 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have gone there sounds like land right yeah. 551 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: And also like the village like at the end, I mean, 552 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: I don't know where we actually shot that final scene 553 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: with she and Bigue so great obviously, but like when 554 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: she gets out of the car, I'm like, where is she? 555 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: Because that doesn't look anything like the village right now. 556 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: It's literally you would have to go I don't know, 557 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: thirty miles outside of New York to find that. Yeah, yeah, warehouse. 558 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: You looking thing going on in the dark. I don't 559 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: know what's happening. There's no light, there's no dark, there's 560 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: no streakoreyahut door dying like it. It's just night and day. 561 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: But that is kind of what you love about the cities, 562 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: that it's always evolved. 563 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 3: It's evolving. 564 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: But I think it was like a time capsule, you know, 565 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: the pilots, Oh, big time New York was like, and 566 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: how it looked and and what it was like to 567 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: be young, you know, And I know we weren't there. 568 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: Young and we you know what I mean that young? 569 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: What do you say? 570 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: No, we weren't no, I was. 571 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 3: I see what we were. 572 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: I was like thirty something. 573 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: I think I was in my twenties, like twenties. 574 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh how adorable. 575 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: Oh I don't even know how old you are. 576 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: And we were older because I remember early exactly, and 577 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: we all were. And that was a big thing because remember, 578 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you went through this, but when 579 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: I was first auditioning whatever, the part said, oh, you 580 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: said you're that eight. Oh yeah, you did not say 581 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: you you were your real eight. If I was older, 582 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: you said you're older. If it was younger, you were 583 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: twenty two, whatever it was, you were like, yes, I'm 584 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: twenty two, you know what I mean. And then the 585 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: freedom of playing a woman in her thirties, we were 586 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: like what I heard of? But this is also when 587 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: you thought your career was over at forty. Yes, like 588 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: we really did not ever perceive that we would have 589 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: bigger success. 590 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy longevity, a magic god. 591 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: Yes, right, And it's so nice for other for actors 592 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: to say that for you know, and actually it's different 593 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: now and the world is and our stories are interesting, 594 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: you know, Well that's why. 595 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: We wanted to do it, just like that, like, why 596 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: why would our stories be over? 597 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: Right? 598 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: They're not over richer, right. 599 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just as interesting. And I can't wait for 600 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: the for the next season. 601 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a it's it's a it's a good one. 602 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: It's a big one's look at the eyebrows, you know. 603 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: It's all we just finished. I'm still recovering intense. So 604 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: it's intense. It is intense, But we're just so lucky 605 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: to still be doing it. 606 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: You are, and I'm sorry, and you can tell that 607 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: you really, it's genuine feel lucky because I heard. 608 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: Of it's really to have and you know, so lucky. 609 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: Stay with these characters and evolve with them and keep 610 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: telling the stories. And it's so generous to the audience 611 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: and to the. 612 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: Us, like the support, you know. For not the audience, 613 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be able to do it, you know what 614 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean. It's a it's a cycle, it's a circuit. 615 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 3: You know. 616 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: It's important. But it's also funny because I when I 617 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: watched yours, I was like, we don't even know what 618 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: happened to her. 619 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 3: Right to know what happened to her? Is we do? 620 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: I think there's a whole company episode that we could 621 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: go back. Stick with me, okay, and just see the trajectory. 622 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: There was Elizabeth maybe she won a Pulitzer or something. 623 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. She was a journalist. I love it. 624 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 3: Maybe she does a cover story on Carrie Charlotte, Carrie, 625 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 3: you know, the whole bit. Yeah, you know, like whatever 626 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 3: happened to her. 627 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: She's on the cover of Forbes something, you know. But 628 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 2: it was just such a and you know, it's it's interesting. 629 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: I had friends that didn't even know I had done 630 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: Sex in the City. And then I think the pandemic 631 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: when when the series came back, people wanted to go 632 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: back to the beginning. So I had so many people 633 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: at one point saying, you're. 634 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: Sex and the City in the city. 635 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. A friend of mine just texted me from an airplane. 636 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, look, the lad in front of me is 637 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: watching you on Sex and the City. 638 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: Wow. 639 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. 640 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: So it kind of is. It's given me a boost, 641 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: you know, and I was only in you know a 642 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: little bit, but you're so good. 643 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: Oh well, who knew. 644 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: It's like not complete, but it's like a really like 645 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: you get the story, like you know what I'm saying, 646 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: Like we don't even really follow the rest of us 647 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: well that much. 648 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: But it's the premise of the show that it's really 649 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: set up, like what can happen when this wide eyed, 650 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: you know a person comes to me. I was that 651 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: wide eyed person coming from Australia. Oh that's another thing. 652 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: The accent was dodgy as hell because no one asked 653 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: me if I was really British, Like you said with 654 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: the auditions, if you're thirty. 655 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 3: Three, thirty three, if you're twenty four twenty four, are 656 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: you British? 657 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah, And no one at that point like 658 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: say anything about my you know. 659 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: It's okay. We were paying attention to so many other things, 660 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: but to go like there's one word where I'm like. 661 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: Wait what But that's okay? 662 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: But I mean yeah, like you know, British Australian, that's foreign. Yeah, 663 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: for a holiday Australians with your Louis d and my hair, 664 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: your yellow. 665 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: Cat and in your hat and my check is just amazing, 666 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: so amazing. 667 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: What a what a beginning? 668 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: What a beginning? Yeah? Well, the thing that I think 669 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: is interesting is like there's two main points, right, So 670 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: one is the ghosting, which we don't call it obviously 671 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: the ghostings. We don't have that word yet. But the other, 672 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: which I remember more so personally as being The super 673 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: fascinating part is can women go around and casually have 674 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: sex like a man and not have emotions right? And 675 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: that's what we debate at the one scene we all 676 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: have together at Miranda's birthday and I'm Charlotte's like, what 677 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: about romance? You know? And they're all like, you know right, 678 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: and you know, Samantha is very powerful about it all. 679 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: And then Carrie goes and tries to do research with 680 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: the Bill Sage character. He's so beautiful. Oh my jesus, 681 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: go I know, I know, and I remember having a 682 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: little like Bill Sage crush run into him and I'd 683 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: be like, oh that Bill Stage is here. So I 684 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: don't know, not my type. I don't know. He didn't 685 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: seem to you know what I'm saying. He was like 686 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: quite fabulous, stunning, and she goes. Sarah goes up. You know, 687 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: she's got her eyes because she's got her brown hair, 688 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: and she's like, you know, how about you know your place? 689 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: And he's like three o'clock and she's like, I'm just 690 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: like whoa. She's like incredible, and then she goes and 691 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: they're in bed and it shows her enjoying it. And 692 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: then he comes up from the covers and there's some 693 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: stain on the sheet, which I'm just like, what ear Okay, 694 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: it's probably makeup. I don't know what's going on. Everything's 695 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: like kind of messy in the pilot, you know. And 696 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: then he's like, what about my turn? And she's like, no, sorry, 697 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: gotta go. I'm like, oh my god, it's incredible. You 698 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: don't see this on television now. 699 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: No, thirty years Dark. No, that was bold, right, it 700 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: was really bold. 701 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: And then she goes out on the sidewalk and runs 702 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: into big and drops the condos. 703 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: No, it's incredible. 704 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: It was, and it needed to be seen and it 705 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: needed to happen. And the fact that that was the 706 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: show that did it, yeah. 707 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: Remarkable, But also like, think about it now, I do 708 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: feel saying earlier, I do feel like in terms of women, 709 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: like we are, we do have this ability to be 710 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: casual and have hookups and you know, in an equal 711 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: manner to men then back then. But I still don't know, 712 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, can women have sex without feeling? 713 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: And I don't know. I can't. I mean, I'm not. 714 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: I just my feelings are in everything, you know, So 715 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: I don't even know that I want to have sex 716 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: like a man, Like I'm quite happy happy having sex 717 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: like a woman, you. 718 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: Know, and sometimes I would like because I well, but. 719 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: If you're not feeling it, then you still want to 720 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: feel it, yes, right, if you're going to feel it, 721 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: you feel it in. 722 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: A way where when you're gone, you're up, I'm going. 723 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: To cry it's over. And I think just and also 724 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: being open. 725 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: I think just being a creative person, you have to 726 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: be been herded all the time, so it's it's valid 727 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: points feelings, you know, it's hard to sort of leave 728 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: feelings behind. But yeah, it's interesting. You know, they have 729 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: sex like a man, and I love that she did that. 730 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: I thought it was so empowering and so awesome. 731 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: I agree it was, it was great. But yeah, it's interesting. 732 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: It's so interesting that Yeah, like you said, not even now, 733 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 2: are people really doing that or feeling bold enough to 734 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: to cavalier with men and sex? 735 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: And I mean, I feel like there might be because of 736 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: the apps and everything, like the dating. 737 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: Apps like hinge, you can be more anonymous as the one, right, 738 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, right, never been on them. 739 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: I have been on and off them. 740 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: Really, I kind of go on them and then it's like, 741 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't do and starting for someone 742 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: to like meet me on my sofa at home, like 743 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: just walk in the door, and which is just not 744 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: gonna happen. 745 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that that's bold. 746 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen. I just 747 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: I'm not good at dating. I'm just not want to. 748 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: I just but I don't go to bas I don't 749 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: go dad. 750 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that's where people meet people, 751 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: because is it anyway? 752 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I'm on the train sometimes, but 753 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 2: like I don't look up, you know, I'm just hoping 754 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: like one of my friends will just introduce me to 755 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: a great guy. 756 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: That's nice. I live with three great men as it is, 757 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: you know, and that you know, I feel like they're. 758 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: That's a lot that I'm not still looking for someone. 759 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 760 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 3: Wow. But it's just like I feel very fulfilled, you. 761 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: Know, which is great, right. I think we should do 762 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: some kind of a poll with everyone we have on 763 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: of all ages to find out and maybe in our 764 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: socials someone can tell us, like, are these younger women, yes, 765 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: who've come up with the age of like apps and 766 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: social media and whatnot? Are they able to go have 767 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: casual sex if they want to? What's it like if 768 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: they want to, and what's it like? We need to know. 769 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 3: I would love that because that's just not how I grew. 770 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: You just wouldn't know. It was a lady for us. 771 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 2: She wasn't you know, it wasn't uh feminine, you know, 772 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 2: but why why do wea but why not? Yeah? 773 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 3: No, it's so misogynistic. Don't even think that, right, And 774 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 3: I'm the woman. 775 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: What we were grand? 776 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to. 777 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: Be you didn't want to be aggressive, you know. And 778 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 2: it's like you just so you want to be asked out. 779 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 3: You want to You don't want to be the one 780 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: boo boo boo. 781 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: Like I like it's okay to ask someone out or 782 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: I like you definitely. 783 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: I remember the first time I told Hi man I 784 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: liked him before he said he liked me. Was he shocked? No, 785 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 3: He's like, I like you too, you know, And then 786 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 3: we kissed. That was nice. 787 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: But I felt like this was just like the old 788 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 2: Sarah would never have done that. I would have waited 789 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: for him to call and say. 790 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: I know the things we go through, my. 791 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: Godmure and you know you can still make Charlotte femininity guy, 792 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 2: Oh my guy, and all the guys. 793 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm impressed. I'm way impressed. You're the perfect first guest. 794 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're more Charlotte than me. I think, okay, 795 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about the men, because you know the men 796 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: in the pilot, like she does say that great line 797 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: where they show all the people walking down the street 798 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: and she says like, you know, these women pay taxes 799 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: and they wear strapping manolo's and yet they are alone. 800 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: There's like a little beat before she goes alone. Yeah, 801 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: and then you know every man who talks to the camera. 802 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 1: First of all, they're horrific. Second of all, they say 803 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: toxic bachelor. 804 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:39,959 Speaker 2: Toxically in yes print yes, and it's true fail up, like. 805 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 3: Why are we struggling? 806 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of you know, chat about how 807 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: you know things have become more equal and things, you know, 808 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: a lot. 809 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 3: Of have they. 810 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I really feel like. 811 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 2: You know, the cream of the crop of women are 812 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 2: out there in a single and these men. I diated 813 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: a man, well, we went out to who ate baby food? 814 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: Like what? 815 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 3: And I went out on a second and third date 816 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 3: with him? He ate babyfood? 817 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: Why I don't know. Was he trying to diet. 818 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 819 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: But he took me to really good restaurants and would 820 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: order boiled rice and he had like a container of 821 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: apple sauce and yeah, yeah. 822 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: I. 823 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: Like boiled rice. Can I tell you what? 824 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: This guy also an actor? He would he I would 825 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: order regular food, and he would order like vegetables or 826 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: whatever with like steamed vegetables, like like kind of like 827 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: you would think of actress, I know. And then I 828 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: would regular food. He'd be like, let me smell it, 829 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: so we would like, oh god. 830 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh that's so weird. 831 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: I know, and he'd be like, oh, I feel better now. 832 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: I'd be like, all right, what. 833 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 3: You do to stop dating actors? 834 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: I know, giving them money? I love us, but I know, 835 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I yeah, I don't get me 836 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: started on my taste. But but I wait here, what happened? 837 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: Did you ask the man why he was eating baby food? 838 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 3: He said he's not. He said he had simple tastes. 839 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 3: He had. 840 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 2: He said he has a simple like you know, he's 841 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 2: not into like really complicated food. I'm like, that is 842 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: not someone that eats like you could eat uncomplicated. 843 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 3: But still order off the menu. It was really really fast. 844 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: It's weird. 845 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, mashed potatoes and the little thing at apple sauce 846 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: like and I thought, God, does he have like a 847 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: mummy fantasy? 848 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 3: Does he want me to like give him a bottle later? 849 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: Like before bed? It didn't get that far. 850 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad, But what these are? 851 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: The guy I also met, I had another blind date. 852 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: We were set up by a mutual friend too. We 853 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: had a really nice dinner in New York City. But 854 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: I sat down with tall, handsome, gorgeous, good family I'd 855 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 2: heard from. I googled him and he we said, hadn't 856 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: even ordered cocktails. And he was like, wait there, Like 857 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: I was gonna go anywhere. He goes back to the end, 858 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: back at the kitchen. 859 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: Basically, Okay, it's the bar. 860 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 2: Are all the diners into the kit comes back a 861 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 2: few minutes later with a guitar, sits down and start singing. 862 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 2: The whole restaurant stops and looks, and people have their 863 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: phones and their feeling because I guess they figure he's 864 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: about to propose or something. I don't why he started 865 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: singing Kiss the Girl from a Little Mermaid in the 866 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: Jamaican accent and I remember my face was so frozen 867 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: in a smile that it started to hurt. And I 868 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: remember thinking he kept singing, and he kept singing, and 869 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to die. 870 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 3: I wanted someone. I think he was trying to impress me. 871 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: I wanted someone to have a heart attack so we 872 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: could like talk about that instead. I wanted to know 873 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 2: that'd be a crash on Madison Avenue, like a car crash, 874 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 2: so we could go, oh my god, there's a car crash. 875 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 3: And he would put his guitar down. 876 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: That is really embarrassing. 877 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 3: And you know what else is embarrassing? I went out 878 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: on a second date with him. You did because I 879 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 3: think you want to know is there something wrong with me? 880 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: My friends? I was like, is there something wrong with me? 881 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: That? 882 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 3: Doesn't every woman want to be serenaded? 883 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: Right? 884 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's that was like, no, no, because you 885 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: didn't put that out there. 886 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 3: Did you tell him your dream is to be serenaded? 887 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: Like you might not know. 888 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 3: I didn't know, Sam, I wanted to die. 889 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: Sorry if you're listening. 890 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 2: And it takes a lot to embarrass me, like you know, 891 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: as an actor, I was dying in all not the 892 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 2: good ways, and he was so pleased with this. 893 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 3: He said, can you believe I did that? And it's like, no, 894 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 3: I really can't. 895 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: This is my theory Sarah on this, Okay, because this 896 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: is a very unusual story. I think he had seen 897 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: you on twenty four and or Sex and City and 898 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: he was like, I'm going out with this glamorous, beautiful actress. 899 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: What's a musical exactly, I'm going to knock her socks off. 900 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to surprise her. I'm going to go big, 901 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: like a big gesture, you know what I mean. I mean, 902 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: which you should wait maybe later in the relationship for. 903 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 3: It figure out what I mean. 904 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: You like, it came from a good place, so deep, 905 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: but it's so strange that he would pick like a 906 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: kid's song. 907 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, the entire is. 908 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: A broad swing. Okay, it was really big thing. 909 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: But I think I agree with you. I think that like, 910 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 2: he came from all the right places. It just it 911 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 2: was it was a lot, and and that's why I 912 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 2: went out. 913 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 3: That's why I went out with him, and he ultimately, 914 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 3: you know. 915 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: Did you find someone? 916 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 3: We went for each other. I think he I think 917 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 3: he might have found some hope. So yeah, and she 918 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: likes to Yah. 919 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: They can go to Disneyland, they can go on the Rock, 920 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the Little Mermaid. My kids 921 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: love it. 922 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 3: Yes, Frozen and all of them. Totally. 923 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. Wow. So in general, this 924 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: is my question when I was watching the pilot, do 925 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 1: we feel like it's different than it was in the pilot? 926 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: Because here she is saying, they are all these incredible 927 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: successful women in Manhattan, but also in the world, and 928 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: where are all the great guys? Like, do we feel 929 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: like that's different? 930 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 3: God, I'd love to say it's different. 931 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: I think there are so many I mean, I'm a woman, 932 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: so obviously I can only speak to the you know, 933 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 2: female perspective on things. And I'm middle aged, like, I'm 934 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 2: not a young person dating in the city. 935 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 3: I have no idea what that is like totally, but 936 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: I think. 937 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: The playing field has evened out a little and that 938 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: we don't put up with that kind of good good call, 939 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: and we pick We're smarter, you know, we can pick toxicity. 940 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 3: You know, we know what ghosting is, we know what 941 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 3: being rear windowed? What is it? 942 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 943 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 3: No white light, black lights? 944 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: What ges light? Window? 945 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: You don't want to be real windows? 946 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: No? I don't know. 947 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 3: I don't think I do. 948 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it was totally. I know you're saying 949 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: there's more, there's more we can yes. 950 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: And and we look out for each other. And social media, 951 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 2: you know, you can bring things back to the golfriend. 952 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 2: Oh I saw him, I saw him out at that 953 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 2: other place. Wait, you know on snap and there's the 954 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 2: snap map. And I'm learning this from my kids. You 955 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: can you can see someone's location on the snap. Yeah, 956 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,959 Speaker 2: what the heck? Yeah in real time? Yeah, in real time. 957 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, she's not at the movies with 958 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: her friends, she's like them all with someone else. 959 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, well I didn't know this. 960 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think so, I think we're there's tools. 961 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 2: But I do think with that comes like a sense 962 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 2: of like we're harder, you know, like harder, like I think, 963 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: you know, when you're expecting someone to to to mess 964 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: up or not be truthful, or to gaslight you, or 965 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: to not be honest, right, you're kind of guarded, and 966 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: you should be guarded. But I think it's also important 967 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 2: to keep that part that's soft, that we'll find love 968 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 2: that will be open and not everyone's perfect and not and. 969 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 3: Everyone's going to break up, and everyone's gonna. 970 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 2: Like, maybe tell a white lie, maybe maybe you know, 971 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: or try and protect themselves in the beginning, and we 972 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: all want to put our best face forward. I think 973 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 2: that's what I used to do. I used to sort of, 974 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 2: you know, want people to think I was perfect and 975 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 2: this is me. Now I just put it out there 976 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: right away. So to Charlotte, now, I'm just like, look, 977 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 2: I have three kids. My life is messy. You know 978 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 2: that's great. 979 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: Yes, be who you are, Yeah, totally. 980 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 2: But I didn't even know if I want to live 981 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 2: with someone anymore. But if you want to, like, you know, 982 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 2: have two different places, that would be good. I have 983 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 2: two different says. 984 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 1: Do you remember the part of the Pilot where someone 985 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 1: I think it must be Carrie says, wait, maybe I 986 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: don't know who it is, but someone says that we're 987 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: self selecting down to a smaller and smaller group. 988 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 3: Yes, that's clever. Yeah, yeah we are me. 989 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: No, well cool, it's something like that. That is so true. Yeah, 990 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: there's just so many things that are still so true. Yeah, 991 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: and I can't believe it. 992 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 3: You know, it's okay to have like, you know, your people, okay. 993 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: But it's also like you're saying, if you're not open 994 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: to being surprised, then you're probably not going to be 995 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: surprised because you're not open to it. 996 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 3: Right. 997 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: So there's that yes, right. 998 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 3: So you have to find a balance. 999 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: I guess, right, But I think the question and I 1000 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: don't know the answer. Definitely. The question is are there 1001 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: great guys out there? And I mean there must be, 1002 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 1: but like my feeling is they're all in relationship. 1003 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 2: They're all in relationships. There are plenty of great guys 1004 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 2: out there, they're just not single right right, And you know, 1005 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: it's timing is everything, and you know, oftentimes I'll meet 1006 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: someone and then I'd. 1007 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 3: Like, do I really want to be in a relationship? 1008 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 2: It's very time consuming, you know, sharing a life with somebody, 1009 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 2: and I kind of want like a sometime roommate sometimes. 1010 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 2: But then I guess that makes me sound casual and 1011 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm not right, Well that can you have sex like 1012 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 2: a man like I want? I guess I just want 1013 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 2: the cuddle. I kind of like, you know, the cuddle, 1014 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 2: the you know, someone to put there. I was flew 1015 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 2: out here from New York and I was, you know, 1016 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 2: waiting to get on my plane and I saw this couple, 1017 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 2: and he was taller than her, and she literally just 1018 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: just kind of rested. 1019 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 3: Her head on his shoulder and like held onto. 1020 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 2: His arm, and I kind of it kind of took 1021 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 2: my breath away because I was like, that's what I miss. Yeah, 1022 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 2: that's what I like, you know, not the not the fireworks, 1023 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 2: you know, fancy you know stuff, the movie stuff. 1024 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 3: It's that like. 1025 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 2: Being able to lean on someone while you're in line 1026 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 2: to do something really you know, basic and yeah, you 1027 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 2: know boring. 1028 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, that's very profound. It's very profound. 1029 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 2: I mean that's intimacy at a really beautiful level. 1030 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, I agree. Yes, I mean, so well, 1031 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: let's just end that there's there there's hope. 1032 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 3: There is hope. 1033 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is hope. 1034 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 2: Yes, they're absolutely just got goosebumps and uh and Charlotte 1035 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 2: and your portrayal of her. 1036 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 3: So pure and so thank you, thank you. 1037 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: I'm lucky to play her so wonderful for Babe, for 1038 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 2: us all to watch. 1039 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1040 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I still get to do it. 1041 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we get to watch it, you know, I know. 1042 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: It's super super mind blowing to think of the pilot 1043 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: being all that time ago. Oh, I can't even really 1044 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: say the number out low because I don't really know. 1045 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, it's more than twenty 1046 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: five years, That's what I know, because we had like 1047 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: a celebration that it was twenty five years and that 1048 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: was like two years ago, So I guess it's like 1049 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven years ago. 1050 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 3: That's like what century? 1051 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: Like how could that be true? 1052 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 2: Like so much as to the carriage and also you know, 1053 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 2: in the world, in the world and the cast like marriage, lived, life, 1054 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 2: you know, death. 1055 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 3: I don't can't, okay, I yes. 1056 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: Yes, life is and life is intense. It's intense, I know. 1057 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: But we've been on the wildest, wildest ride, you know, 1058 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: We've been all over the world. Oh, I don't think 1059 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: we want to get off if they'll let us continue, 1060 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: which I don't know, but you know, I mean, we 1061 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: love what we do so much, so much, and we're 1062 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: so lucky, and it's so I'm so grateful, you know, 1063 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,439 Speaker 1: for all of it, for every phase and everyone who 1064 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: has allowed us to find ourselves. You know, because if 1065 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: you think about how the show has changed and then 1066 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: beginning to do the movies and then getting to do 1067 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 1: the new show, like we have had this every single time, 1068 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: we have to prove ourselves again, Like it seems from 1069 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: the outside like it must be easy. No, no, we 1070 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: had to go pitch and just like that's harder. 1071 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure each time. 1072 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: There's the previous thing that that they want to live 1073 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 1: up to, right, But then you also have to let 1074 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: go of that in a certain way because life changes 1075 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: and people change and the stories evolve, and you know, 1076 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,280 Speaker 1: it's it's all very fascinating. I'm just very very grateful. 1077 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 3: It's incredible. It's magic. He guys, magic capture magic. 1078 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for your partner. Well you started remember 1079 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: of course, how can I forget? Like I said, I 1080 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 1: want to know what happens to her Elizabeth? 1081 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 3: Well maybe in the next uh, I know, does she still? 1082 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: Does she still? 1083 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 3: You know what she could have of the vintage? 1084 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: She could with that money? 1085 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, maybe that's that's. 1086 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 3: That's full circle. I was like, there you go had 1087 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 3: the hat box? 1088 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 1: Oh of it? 1089 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 3: I know? 1090 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: And is that, sir Jessica's because like, how could we 1091 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: have afforded that? 1092 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1093 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,879 Speaker 2: I don't know what That's a good that's a good 1094 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 2: trivia question. Yeah, she has it, she has it, of 1095 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 2: course she does. 1096 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 3: She'd have the hat box. 1097 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: Made me carry a hat box all over Morocco. 1098 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 3: Isn't that funny? 1099 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,720 Speaker 1: Yes, it was awkward. It was always like these things 1100 00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: are not And I had a massive hat Michael Patrick 1101 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: Haye is so beautiful. I'm sorry that, oh we put 1102 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 1: a lot of sunscreen onto but yes, uh you know, yes, 1103 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: I guess this the has helped. That has help. But yeah, 1104 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: hat boxes are kind of a special thing. I very 1105 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: call back, go back old Hollywood. Yeah, I do love 1106 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: them too, but I mean I. 1107 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 2: Remember wanting to have one in high school and I 1108 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 2: think I ended up getting like a codboard. 1109 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 3: One thing that that was how it was going to travel. 1110 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 3: I didn't have any hats. 1111 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 1: Listen, I've got the Vyton makeup case, and I did 1112 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: you one time when it's sitting on the top of 1113 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: your pile in the back of the cabin, I was like, oh, 1114 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: I got one time. I was working in South Africa 1115 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: and I wanted my character to have it, but I 1116 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: had to bring it because they definitely could afford it. 1117 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: And I was I had adopted my son, who's who's 1118 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: my youngest child, and he was six months old and 1119 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: I was taking him to South Africa with me to 1120 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: do this movie with a baby nurse and in the 1121 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: Louis Vutant, I packed his formula bottles because a picture 1122 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: of that, but I did not because you don't think 1123 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: you're just so stressed. Yeah, oh my god, what do 1124 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: I have to take it for this more than travel six? 1125 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: He did so great. I had bought like this, we're 1126 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: so off topic, but I bought Starbucks card for everybody 1127 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 1: because we were in the first class lounge, the first 1128 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 1: class cabin of Everts. I was like, these people are 1129 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: going to be so upset with me because I have 1130 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: this tiny baby. You thought I was going to be mad, Well, 1131 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: my baby nurse did. Yeah, so we bought Starbucks card 1132 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: for everyone. He did not make up, but I handed 1133 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: them out anyway. 1134 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I. 1135 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: Mean he was like a little angel, a little angel 1136 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: the planes. 1137 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 2: Actually, I took my son to go further off topic 1138 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 2: when he was three months old to Australia and. 1139 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 3: That was a long and I remember everyone. 1140 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 2: Looked at me in I was in business class and 1141 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 2: he had a little crib and the. 1142 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 3: Woman sitting next to me, I just sat down. 1143 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, sorry, I'm a nurse. 1144 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,959 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 1145 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 2: I was like nursing and stuff because I was saying, 1146 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 2: what if I sit next to it? And that's a 1147 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 2: long time to you know, he slept the entire, the 1148 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 2: entire It's amazing. I was like, I'll hold him whatever 1149 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: you need. 1150 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 1: This is when that's when you need watching this or 1151 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: listening or whatever. Who has a baby fly with them 1152 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 1: when they're kind three to six months you think you shouldn't. 1153 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 3: But when they're not so bad, no, no, then you need. 1154 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 2: Then you need more than a stuff you need give 1155 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 2: card tifinator. 1156 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,879 Speaker 1: Everybody, totally totally anyway, we have definitely gone off. Yeah, 1157 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,879 Speaker 1: but it was really fun. You're so fun to talk 1158 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: to you. 1159 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 3: Oh I love you. You're amazing. 1160 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 2: It's just like I love this. It's just are you 1161 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 2: watching going on? Is that how you're gonna like you'll 1162 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 2: cover the. 1163 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 1: Well, that's how we can over the themes, right, And 1164 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean we're recapping, but not in the way like 1165 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 1: some people recap and talk about like lines, scenes, whatever. 1166 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, I don't even know 1167 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: if I can do that. But like, just to watch 1168 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 1: the pilot because I haven't watched it in at least 1169 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: twenty years, I mean a very long time. Right, you know, 1170 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: you're reminded of so much. So it's like, I want 1171 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,959 Speaker 1: to tell you about what it was like to be there, 1172 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 1: what I remember, you know, different things stick out obviously, 1173 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: and then some things you're like, I don't even remember that, 1174 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's just behind the scenes. 1175 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,760 Speaker 1: But also the thing that I love the most about 1176 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: it is that the themes that we talked about then 1177 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: are still so relevant, you know, it's still so interesting. 1178 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: And that's why I like to hold them up now 1179 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,240 Speaker 1: and say like, is this still true? 1180 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 3: Is this not still true? 1181 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: It's super interesting, you know, and I'm sure each guest 1182 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: will have their own. 1183 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 3: It's fascinating and it's and we still don't know. 1184 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 2: We're still asking the questions, which keeps us curious, which 1185 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 2: keeps things interesting. 1186 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 3: Which is great. 1187 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: That's a great and that's what I think carrying bodies right, 1188 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: She's always like what if? Or what's your things? I 1189 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 1: wonder if? Or you know, like that these are good 1190 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: questions to be as. 1191 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 2: Curiosity is something so lacking. People are really good at 1192 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 2: talking and they're not good at listening. And I think 1193 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 2: when you're curious, you inherently want to listen, and not 1194 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 2: everyone can host a podcast, so you. 1195 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 3: Obviously you're a really good. 1196 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 2: Listener, My first guest, we'll find out, that's my of 1197 00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 2: all the podcasts. 1198 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 3: I've been on. No, You're You're You're great. 1199 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 1: You darling, thank you for being here for my first 1200 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,879 Speaker 1: guest for Charlotte, my first sure and she was in 1201 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,280 Speaker 1: fact to Charlotte more than me, which is quite amazing. 1202 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 3: You know, I was inspired. 1203 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: Ah, so we hope you guys will be back next week. Yeah,