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Speaker 1: Twitter from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You know, Julio Jones should apologize to the Titans sort

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Speaker 1: of stealing their money. But that's a story for a

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Speaker 1: different section of today's episode. Dan Hansis Greg grows with

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Speaker 1: all Mark Sesler, I don't even believe that you can't apologize.

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Speaker 1: He tried his best, it didn't work out. Whatever, what's up, guys.

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Speaker 1: I just think Titans Twitter should be happy that they're

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Speaker 1: so front and center on this podcast over the last year,

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Speaker 1: certainly helped out by Justin Graver, the grave digger behind

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Speaker 1: the glass again. But now that Julio's gone, we're actually

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Speaker 1: entering into the three to four month period where we

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Speaker 1: no longer talk about the Titans so enjoyed. Today they

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Speaker 1: are tad whiney. I find that to be true. Um,

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Speaker 1: their performance. Very well said Mr Sessler. Uh, this is

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Speaker 1: happy New Year. Do we have a celebration? Yeah? Hit

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Speaker 1: us with a little celebration graver while we're at it,

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Speaker 1: even though he's probably he's a professional. We just bury

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Speaker 1: the Titans in the biggest of all spots, and yet

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Speaker 1: right on Cue keeps delivering. He keeps delivering. And and

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Speaker 1: let's not even pretend act like a message is not

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Speaker 1: being sent behind the glass within that world. Now some

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Speaker 1: of the social stuff we're seeing the production value of

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Speaker 1: the show. I can't do that from you know, the beach.

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Speaker 1: You're very clear in your messaging this week, Dan uh

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Speaker 1: get a little bit more met every day. Um, today

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Speaker 1: The Russell Wilson introductory press conference took place today at

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Speaker 1: two three not an accident, uh Mountain time, introduced by

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Speaker 1: You were hoping for some more fireworks on Russell's Russell's

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe provided one really on Mark's rain, that's

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Speaker 1: to know. But before we get into the Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: This is starting to become very very real that the

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Speaker 1: I thought he played fantastic. That was as good at

431
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Speaker 1: three games stretch as he ever had. Like, he had

432
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Speaker 1: some brilliant moments. He played well when it mattered the most.

433
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Speaker 1: But I just don't think they saw him as the

434
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Speaker 1: long term guy. Yeah, and last year heard him a lot. Uh.

435
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Speaker 1: While we're talking about the Browns. A couple other notes.

436
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper, by the way, great example Austin Hooper. This

437
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: time of year in free agencies, so much money is

438
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: handed out and a lot of these deals don't work out.

439
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: The Browns gave him, uh three years four million a

440
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Speaker 1: couple of years back in free age. And see they

441
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: cut ties with the tight end now, so Hoober's out

442
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: of the picture in Cleveland. And what else was there?

443
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: Scientific cam Grant one of the most fun uh kind

444
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: of fourth receiver punt returners in the league. I like

445
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: to cream there you go, all right, we got a

446
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: lot more to get to. Let's take a break. We'll

447
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: be right back. In other news, non Browns related, the Raiders.

448
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: They add to their pass rush with Chandler Jones. A

449
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: nice move here by Las Vegas men. The a f

450
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 1: C West has a lot of juice to it. Let's

451
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's be honest. Chandler Jones now gets to

452
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: line up um with another big time pass rusher, and

453
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Speaker 1: you get you get the idea here with Max Crosby

454
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: that all these teams it's become an arms race. Now,

455
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: how do we stop all these big time quarterbacks Jones

456
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: has been. I don't think anyone has more Saxon Jones

457
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: since he came into the league. That's a nice get right.

458
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: I think this was about relationships too, because obviously we

459
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: know the Chandler Jones can play still. Josh McDaniels, Dave Ziegler,

460
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: these are former Patriots guys. They have Patrick grahams or

461
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Patrick Graham worked with Chandler Jones as a

462
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: d line coach or a linebackers coach, been both positions

463
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: back in New England. And it's like you ship out

464
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: certain players. You bring in guys are gonna fit your system,

465
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Speaker 1: and I like to fit because I think Channel Jones

466
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: isn't is someone that produces year after year, And I

467
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: mean it's not just the what do you have the

468
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: five sacks in Week one a year ago? It's like

469
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Speaker 1: he's he was a little up and down last year,

470
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Speaker 1: but in general he's been very consistent, and you know

471
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Speaker 1: he can bring the heat in a quarterback in division

472
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Speaker 1: with tons of quarterbacks. That's a wild pass. RS Duo

473
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Speaker 1: Crosby and Jones. It's funny Arizona gave all that money

474
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Speaker 1: to J. J. Watt and and ended up losing Jones

475
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: at least partly because of it. They made they made

476
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 1: that choice, and but it makes sense with a new

477
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: coaching staff coming in, they ship out Yannikenackway to Indianapolis

478
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Speaker 1: for a cornerback, rock Ya sin So they also the

479
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: Raiders also get a guy who will be projected to

480
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: the art at cornerback for them, who had a pretty

481
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: nice bounce back good second year. The Colts seemed to

482
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: like him. That that's a fair trade, a good like,

483
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: a good move for the Colts. Um. But I like

484
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: I like Josh McDaniels in the in the Raiders knowing

485
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to be better on defense in

486
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: that division. All these teams have great pass rushers, though

487
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: on paper the Chargers, the Broncos, the Chiefs are probably

488
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: the ones that are trailing right now in terms of that.

489
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: And in Gockway is going to join Gus Broudley again.

490
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: So it's again it's like, coach, bring guy in. He

491
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: knows we'll fitticist. That's his third, third time, that's his

492
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: fifth team in four years. A little bit of a

493
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: red flag there, but he he has a good He

494
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: has a good and they they need it that the

495
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Colts need it. They had to give up something to

496
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Speaker 1: get it. But that's a good deal of NBA like

497
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: three team trade almost type business for them both to

498
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: get something out of that. Uh. Speaking of things that

499
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: looked good on paper, Julio Jones was acquired by the

500
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: Titans last offseason for a second round pick. He was

501
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: supposed to form a double Alpha scenario with a J

502
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: Brown on the opposite ends of the Tennessee offensive attack.

503
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: It never really came to fruition. Jones once again battled

504
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: a lot of injury issues. Uh. Did put some good

505
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: tape out there as well, but overall it was a disappointment.

506
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: So the Titans say, we're getting out of this business. Uh.

507
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: They released Julio Jones reportedly will be designated a post

508
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: June first cut. Saves Tennessee nine and a half million

509
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: against the cap this year, um grave digger. The Titans

510
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: gave up a second and a fourth round pick for

511
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Speaker 1: Jones last June, but it never really connected. Are you

512
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: okay with them moving on and trying to get younger

513
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: and a little more dynamic and trustworthy at the position. Yeah?

514
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: I think it was the right move to go for him.

515
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: You know, see if the hamstring issues were just a

516
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: one year deal in obviously they ended up not being

517
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: a hams like they obviously hampered him all season long.

518
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: He didn't score his first touchdown until the last game

519
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: of the year. He did have six catches or sixty

520
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: two yards in the playoff game, but he wasn't on

521
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: the field for Ryan Tannehill's last throw of the game,

522
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: targeting Nick Westbrook a Kina instead and the ball obviously INTERSEPTD.

523
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: Why wasn't he on the field because the hamstring issue

524
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: cropped up again and he couldn't be out there. And

525
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: I think that this was the right man. We had

526
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: a reputation as a guy uh that never practiced and

527
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: his body starting to fall apart like just a supreme

528
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: athlete that maybe didn't have their reputation as always putting

529
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: in the work in practice. And this isn't just casting

530
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: dispersions on him. Just look at the practice reports since

531
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: he hasn't practiced like since September, from September to January,

532
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: and he's turned in thirty three. I'm with you, Graver.

533
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: It made sense to me at the time, and yet

534
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: he's I put him at number fifty. We we uh,

535
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: we combined here as a group, good group. What are

536
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: they called? Think tank? Think tank? We were watching the

537
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: rest of the world. We put him and we saw

538
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: we thought like between Will Fuller and Marquez Valda scantly

539
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: and that feels about right right in the middle. Worth

540
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: worth a shot, Digger, I have a question for you,

541
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: sugar pick in the draft, good wide receiver draft. Would

542
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: they have other needs? Would they ever dial one up?

543
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: I mean, they can't just not address that position. As

544
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: a fan, I'm hoping that Kris Alave falls to twenty

545
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: six and ends up in Tennessee. And I'll ask you this,

546
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: U Digger, because the Titans Film Room podcast covers all

547
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: things Titans. You and James A. Sparzah, is this call

548
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: for an emergency podcast or how does it work with

549
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: your James is an old co host. Actually were I'm

550
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: with Justin Mellow What happened there? I means breaking up.

551
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's not the that's not them. Yeah, let's

552
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: not linked to the other situation that you're embroiled in. No,

553
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: James is a friend, We're we're cool. He just didn't

554
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: want to do the pot anymore, and we went in

555
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: a different direction. We got I try to give you

556
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: a pop and get your buddy's name on the show

557
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: in a case, and then I found out you fired

558
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: the guys. Justin Mellow right for the Draft Network. He's

559
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: he's a great insider. He's the co host nowadays. We

560
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: talked about we did our pod last night, so we

561
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: said this was a big possibility and covered it briefly. Well,

562
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: they had literally they had no cap space going into

563
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: the league year starting uh I believe they had like

564
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: less than a million. They were less than a million over.

565
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: And so now they get ten, but they don't get

566
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: it until June one. They they unless they make any

567
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: other moves, they are not going to be particularly active.

568
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: The team that you got is the team that that

569
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: you have and I and I really think that Harold

570
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: Landry contract, not that it was a mistake, but I

571
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: think it gummed up the works in free agency here

572
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: of none of these pass rushers wanted to take less

573
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: than Harold Landry, Like Chandler Jones came in for pretty

574
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: much Harold Landry's contract and it took him three years

575
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: on the open market to get it. Greg counterpoint, Yes,

576
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: great job by the Titans. You've gone and gotten your guy,

577
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: but you've you've mucked up the market and caused so

578
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: much consternation that no other team is going to add

579
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: a pass rusher eventually. I'm this next level like with

580
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: the Jags did with Christian Kurko, because title Game, Melvin Ingram,

581
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: there's a little kind of guys out there still looking. Uh.

582
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: In other we thought that was st uh They didn't

583
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: end up with Mitch Drabinsky, as I said, he lands

584
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: with the Steelers to be their starter. Maybe. Uh so

585
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 1: the Giants pivot. They signed Tyrod Taylor, formerly of the Texans,

586
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: formerly of everyone, to a two year, eleven million dollar contract.

587
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: This is right there, Greg, that is the contract for

588
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: the like good you know, top backup slash. Maybe I'll

589
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: be your starter contract. That's the money, right, that's it.

590
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: I was surprised he got this much. He got eight

591
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: point to guaranteed, so a little more than Mitch, a

592
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: little more than Teddy Bridgewater in Miami. It's got to

593
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: annoy you. No, it's fine. I mean, they were all

594
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: in the same ballpark. But the fact that Tyrod got

595
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: it was surprising because he he didn't have a good

596
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: year in Houston. I mean, I know it was a

597
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: tough situation, but Davis certainly outplayed him when he came

598
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: back from that injury. He's turning what thirty three, and

599
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: this contract would indicate like he's probably gonna play if

600
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: they have a losing record. Well, the Bills front office

601
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: guys know him from seventeen and that's the Giants general

602
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: manager right now. I I like what I like about this.

603
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: I like about Teddy Bridgewater. I like about Drew Lock.

604
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Assuming the Seahawks don't do something totally stupid and at

605
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: another quarterback, they are properly slotted for the rest of

606
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: the off season, will we will not talk about them

607
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: unless we are exorbitant, because we're not gonna have to

608
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: hear about Tyrod Taylor being sold we're not gonna have

609
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: to hear about Tyrod Taylor being sold to us as

610
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: a starter, and they're just in the mix where they

611
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: should be your equality back up and Joy, did we

612
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: ever talk Teddy on this show with Miami, because I

613
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: can tell you what was your short term? Remember you've

614
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: been compromising talking or we'll be talking some Teddy, We'll

615
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: be talking some some Tyrode. Yeah, these contracts used to

616
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: go to like Chase Daniel. It's somehow the prices have

617
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: not gone up. I had a conspiracy from uh, from

618
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: someone that was like, what's going on. It's like our teams,

619
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: our team's cappying these prices at these positions or something.

620
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised that they haven't been that hot. It's

621
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: called collusions. That was simply the general manager app the

622
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: GMP them straight. Hey, no one like Teddy. We can

623
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: all agree, Teddy, Mitch, Tyronne, they're all about the same.

624
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: Let's let's all slought them in right around here. And

625
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: I know this from painful experience, and the Giants learned

626
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: it or experienced at firsthand last year. You do not

627
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: want to have no true plan at backup quarterback when

628
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: you have two bums as your backups, guys with no

629
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: experience or of success, and you end up you end

630
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: up with Mike Lennon and Jake from and we get

631
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: stuck with that on like Thursday Night Football. Feel plan here.

632
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: They just resigned Flacco and gave the origin around tender

633
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: to Mike White, which is actually two point four million

634
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: those are back, like Joe Flacco is going to be

635
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: perfectly mediocre to bad but not embarrassing that he's actually

636
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: stepped in and been better than you would have imagined

637
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: the last couple. But you have when you get in

638
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: a situation where your backups are dreadful, you become unwatchable

639
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: and there's no progress that the organization can have in

640
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: any way, even if you're in rebuilding. It just rooms

641
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: to touch fired that in the Prescott for inside, I

642
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Speaker 1: think with five or six games like the season, he

643
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: he had a pretty good chance to return. You'll blew it.

644
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: In other news that Darius Smith, Hey, the Patriots got

645
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks coach out of it or something. That's that's

646
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: who we want guiding Mac Jones's future. What's going on

647
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: over there? They've got like three coaches and it's just

648
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: it's just Belichick, Patricia and Judge. I think they're not

649
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: as territory of not trying. They're not trying. Patricia and Belichick.

650
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: We're down at the Georgia Pro Day today. It's too

651
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: much Patricia. Yeah, Greg Bard's righting. It's like, yeah, Patricia

652
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: is like the second most powerful guy in the organ dat.

653
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: It was like, what does happen? Like, who are the

654
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: There's like three disgraced as a strong word, but the

655
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: guys that were like by the time they were fired,

656
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, get this guy out

657
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: of my building. Matt Patrician Detroit, Joe Judge with the Giants,

658
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: and then the other guy I could think of on

659
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: the top of my head. Well, you can say Ryan,

660
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: you could say Matt Naggy, but I was thinking of

661
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze, who I think also wasn't talk with the

662
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: Patriots at some point, who was in disgrace in Denver

663
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: and then had like the thirty second scoring offense in St. Louis,

664
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: and then he's brought back to the comfortable cottage of

665
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: New England to do his little thing. If we were

666
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: allowed to go to the desert, and we're not, We're

667
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: in League UN and I don't know if they have

668
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: these things, but like I now know, I don't. I

669
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: now feel like I know why Josh mctagia's It's like

670
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: Steve check is absolutely going to be the next coach

671
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: of the New England Pages. I just feel that so strong,

672
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: and I don't know when that'll be. Maybe it won't

673
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: be for another day. We're heading there, uh Zadarius Smith

674
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: is back with the Ravens, the veteran defensive end back

675
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: to Baltimore on a four year, thirty five billion dollar deal.

676
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: He began his career with the Ravens, had some success

677
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: with the Ravens, turned that into a big deal with

678
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: the Packers in twenty nineteen, had a couple of really

679
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: nice years in Green Bay, then got hurt and then

680
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: a salary cap casualty. So he heads back to Baltire

681
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: mark exactly those type of annoying Ravens moves as a

682
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: fan of an a f C North team, where you

683
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: can just imagine him beginning a nice run at a

684
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: second chapter in Baltimore. I mean, if ten days ago

685
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: you tweeted that the Ravens were gonna get Marcus Williams

686
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: and Darius Smith, who I totally trust will thrive in

687
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: that system. It would be an app It would be

688
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: viewed as an absolute win for Baltimore. They do this

689
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: every year. This is why they will be a playoff

690
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: team once again. I have nothing else to say. They

691
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: just they just need to be healthy. They must have

692
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: checked out his back pretty extensively because he, you know,

693
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: missed all of almost all of last season with a

694
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: back injury. That's pretty serious. Maybe that's why he didn't

695
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: get signed until Wednesday. Who knows, but they need They

696
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: needed guys up front. Derrek Wolf might retire, Brandon Williams

697
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: is a free agent, Clais Campbell is a free agent.

698
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: Justin Ellis is a free agent. So they don't have

699
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: many players up there. Did you say it was pretty

700
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: you know heated earlier. Definitely was giving you some space

701
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: and respect. But did you say you were out on

702
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: the Browns again? You're not? He led with that, absolutely

703
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: will be out. This is different. This is different, and

704
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: I understand. I understand that you also will never whenever

705
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: I say that, you will never buy it. But that

706
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: was the landscape. This is a different situation. This goes though.

707
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: Let's say Jimmy g is your is the Browns quarterback

708
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: and they make I like the other moves they've made

709
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: so far, Jimmy G and Kevin Stefanski mean and I

710
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: already know the answer to this. Even that will not

711
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: lure me back in, and that alone would reason we

712
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: haven't heard anything about Jamie's. But now they're not gonna

713
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: go Come on, Mark, come on, this is this is

714
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: different this and you start you know we're gonna see

715
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: a Friday night about eight pm, we start seeing the

716
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: tweets of like side by shot side shots of Jimmy

717
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: G and Stefanski is like hottest coach quarterback combo in history.

718
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: You're telling me that's not gonna happen. I don't know.

719
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: I have two sons. Maybe I decide, like what team

720
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: they like, and we we go on a new journey together.

721
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: My son Walker heard j C. Jackson signed with the Chargers.

722
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: That was his favorite player, and he said, I'm gonna

723
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: be a Chargers fan. Now if the Chargers in the

724
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: Patriots play, I'm going to the Charger. I don't know

725
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: if that's really in the moment, I'll join Greg's tennis.

726
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: I had a major breakthrough in my house because now

727
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: my eldest Jack who's seven is starting to kind of

728
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: get into sports and in a more meaningful way. I

729
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: haven't pressured him with any of it in terms of

730
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: following the league's but they've started to watch. I'll come

731
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: in the room, they'll just be watching, you know, clips

732
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: like hundred greatest plays and then um. I we were

733
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: having dinner on Tuesday and I said, Oh, the Jets

734
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: signed because they're like kind of into the Bengals. After

735
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: the run, I was like, the Jets, uh signed one

736
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: of the former Bengals players. I called him a receiver

737
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: um revering to tight end cjzama and Jack goes, oh,

738
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: number one. He saw number one. I was like, oh

739
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase. Yeah, yeah, he's really good. I was like, Oh,

740
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: it's happening, becoming ingrained. Yes, the Hour League, the Shield

741
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: is taking another soul. Do they think it's cool that

742
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: you work for our league? Yeah? I find that that

743
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: doesn't translate. That part does not seem to be We've

744
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: talked about on the show, like you could you hear

745
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: the same thing from like Hollywood Stars or Tom Brady. Sure,

746
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's like they don't right the

747
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: kid the children of kids that doesn't matter. So obviously

748
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: podcast host, Uh, that is not gonna get a lower

749
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: run potentially wait your eight columnist for NFL dot com

750
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: years ago. Alright, news, the Jaguars are at it again.

751
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: Darius Williams cornerback, formerly of the Rams. Three years, thirty million,

752
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: eighteen million, guaranteed this. There's always a team. They're the

753
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: drunken sailor of free agency. But also it hits on

754
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: this thing that annoys me as someone that's bad at math.

755
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: What what the hell is the salary cap and how

756
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: does it actually work? At what point do they run

757
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: out of forty million dollar contracts to hand out? There's

758
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: got to be there. They had the most cap space,

759
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: i believe, other than the Colts going into free agency,

760
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 1: so they had a lot to spend. You spread it out,

761
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: you know, you put but at a certain point, yeah,

762
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: they've given out million dollar contry. Sick like the way

763
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: that your mind was basic logic math that doesn't add

764
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: up or it makes my mind start to get the

765
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: cap says they still have thirteen left. I don't know

766
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: if that includes Darius. That includes Darius Williams though, so

767
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: I think nobody's really tracking it, and it's all the

768
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: honor system and people aren't like all the signings suck anyway,

769
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: so that theory also does not want This is where

770
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: the pay scale conspiracy comes in, because like, how is

771
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: darry Darius Williams good player feisty? It's like, how is

772
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: he slotted just below Carlton Davis and J. C. Jackson

773
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: there was very little room between the top some weird

774
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: stuff and uh, and the next level of guys they

775
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: also seem like they have three outside corners and they

776
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: don't really have a slot corner, which was the same

777
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: situation they were in last year. Griffin, yeah, Shaq Griffin

778
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: and Tyson Campbell who they drafted, and then Trent Balky,

779
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: who just people like to make fun of. And remember

780
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: he is the guy. And I think my theory here

781
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: is he he saw his football mortality. He he knows

782
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: he was lucky sort of to get one more crack

783
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: at the Apple. So he's just got to spend as

784
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: much money as he possibly can because he knows he's

785
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: gone next year if it if it doesn't work. Uh.

786
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: He in talking up Darius Williams like, oh, if you

787
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: don't think he can cover outside, just watch him cover

788
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: Kristen Kirk and then everyone was like, wait, you just

789
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: gave Kristen Kirk like eighteen million. Is that? Is that

790
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: the point you want to be? I think also to

791
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: your question, Dan, like the Jaguars are gonna have to

792
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: pay more money than a thriving Super Bowl contender that

793
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: someone wants to go to because it's in a great

794
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: city and you're a I know, income tax I don't

795
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: know it very well enough to say it. It's not

796
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: a great city, but I would not call it an

797
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: NFL mecha. It's got probably the smallest NFLF. I started

798
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: to rank the cities if I was an NFL player

799
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: that I would want to play in. I feel like

800
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's coming in the top half. Weather alone. It helps

801
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: that it's a warm weather city, but it's not like

802
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: they have spent over a billion dollars in free agency,

803
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: more than any other team in the league. And I

804
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 1: think they have the most losses since that time too.

805
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: So this model is not even boom or bust. It's

806
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: it's largely bust. And they they they're very analytics heavy.

807
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: They always signed PFF favorites, so funny want to get

808
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: in and move on. I don't know the last couple

809
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: of shows. I'm like, I want to think about why

810
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: is this show so much longer now than it used

811
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: to be? And we just talk and we talk and

812
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: we talked we're gonna have anything to talk about in

813
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: May and June. And by the way, just to make

814
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: make it clear, as I go into a needless aside um,

815
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: you could say cooking with Greece, you could say cooking

816
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: with gas, but there's no such thing, Greg, one crack

817
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: of the apple, one more bite. Well, I know that

818
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: I only said that once, right, that was just you

819
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: just said it earlier. Did it again? I was poised, like,

820
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: what what do you in your mind envisioning when it's

821
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: malapropism or something? How about that? I'm not getting involved

822
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: in us this one, grave digger. Can you give us

823
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: the correct pronunciation of I think it's I think I

824
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: think I nailed it. In other news, Marcus May is

825
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: on the move, the former second round pick of the

826
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: Jets who had some nice years there, same draft as

827
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams uh then blew as Achilles and a contract

828
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: year and and that seemed like bad news all the

829
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: way around, but it turns out that he's still got

830
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: a nice contract from the Saints three years and a

831
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: half million dollar contract. The Saints, of course, lost Marcus

832
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: Williams to the Ravens on Wednesday, so this is their

833
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: guy that's going to be the replacement. A couple of

834
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: caveats here. One, as I mentioned, blew that Achilles in November,

835
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: so we don't know where the twenty nine year old

836
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: is in terms of his rehab. Also, he's facing a

837
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: suspension connected to a d u I that he failed

838
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: to report to the team later early last year. I

839
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: believe it was, so he'll probably be suspended, but maybe

840
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: that will dovetail nicely with his recovery period. Usually that's

841
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: one not a not a transcendent player, not Marcus Williams,

842
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: but the Saints could have done worse as long as

843
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: he's like the rare guy got drafted at twenty four,

844
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: like he's suddenly twenty nine, but he's not been in

845
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: our lives. There's that defense is loaded, you know you

846
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,479
Speaker 1: you kept Dennis Allen to maximize it. Their secondary looks

847
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. Lattimore, Chauncey Gardner, Johnson, Malcolm Jenkins is still there.

848
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: You add may p J. Williams is a free agent.

849
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: Uh I am curious. I'm very curious about how this

850
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: team is gonna look. And they are reportedly the most

851
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: likely team for Deshaun Watson and and there was even

852
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: a report that if Sean Payton was around, they were

853
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: not going after Dennis pushing all and is pushing for it.

854
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: And that is one difference that you're getting with Dennis

855
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: Allen era interesting malpropism. What did you say? That's what

856
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: I said? You got it? Good for you, thank you,

857
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: justin of course, you know, you know when you can't

858
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: quickly look up something like that and then feed it

859
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: right into the show and help us. I can't do

860
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: that from the beach. No. But Greg, one reason, the

861
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: only reason that we're bringing that word up is because

862
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: you did something very strange to an apple verbally previous.

863
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 1: So I'd say you're one and one on the season.

864
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: So I mean it's like, what do you mean at

865
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: an apple? And then doesn't deciphered what you had done

866
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: their language wise, but you've got the Apple thing out

867
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: of the gate. Caused problems for the listener. Well that's

868
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: a great point, Mark all right. Seahawks signed defensive endy

869
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: Chenna and Wassu formally in the charges two years twenty

870
00:45:54,360 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: million dollar contract. Also in the news, uh, Ravens signed

871
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: former Jets lineman Morgan Moses Kyle Allen. The quarterback heads

872
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: to the Texans. Uh, what does that mean? Maybe Davis

873
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: Mills is gonna get a real shot at that job.

874
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: Then the Raiders cut Carl nassib uh the situational pass rusher,

875
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: also the first openly gay NFL player. I'm gonna keep

876
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: an eye on that one. Uh see what kind of

877
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: market he has Brian Bulaga. The Chargers cut ties with

878
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman and the Washington football team. No, the

879
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: Commander's release, Matt Ionitas, Brandon Flowers. I landed Collins and

880
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: Jim Everett the shasier Everett the newso signing was good.

881
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: The Shaws are spending money. I like him as a

882
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. The Raiders cut ties with the

883
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: top ten highest paid players of the John Grudin era.

884
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: Every single one of them is gone. Nick Quickkowski is

885
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: another guy that they today. I don't think Nassable have

886
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: any problem getting a job. He's a good kind of backup,

887
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: rotational and he had a pretty good year. But he

888
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: had an eight million dollar cap figure. Same with Pittkowski.

889
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: Who's a pretty solid player but was just overpaid. And

890
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: mc daniels is not the guy that's gonna come in

891
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: and keep the old guys around who don't really fit.

892
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: He's just gonna cut everyone. The only thing that happened

893
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: was J. D. McKissick from the Commanders went to the

894
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: Bills on a two year deal for seven million, and

895
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: then today decided to go back to Washington, UH for

896
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: the same deal. I thought he would have fit really

897
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: well in Buffalo, but you know, they needed some positive

898
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: pr I feel like because Ionitis in his agent called

899
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: them liars, said they lied right to their face that

900
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: they weren't going to get released and did him dirty

901
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: at the last minute. He's a nice player. I think

902
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: he's he's in the top eighty or so now in

903
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: the in the top one o one. And I don't

904
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: feel like the Carson Wentz trade has gotten the people

905
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: as excited as like, maybe you want a new franchise

906
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: quarterback to excite excite them. So there they've asked Carson

907
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: Wentz to do a favor on social what's up Commanders fans?

908
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz here just landed in d C. I'm excited

909
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: to get to work, excited to come in and compete,

910
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, as we all know, decided to

911
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: really go ahead and start to take command. Wait, he

912
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: just landed. He was traded ages agoin No, got to

913
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: focus on the back end of it. Now, you have

914
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: to understand they're trying to get take command off the ground.

915
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: Take commands there, keep pounding that's there, has to keep pounding.

916
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: There's his take command. Now again, Watch how clumsy the

917
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: transition is. One more time, hit graver and uh, you know,

918
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: as we all know, decided to really go ahead and

919
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: start to take command. It's hard, though, it's so awkward

920
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: to just try to do that. The social guy, they

921
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: land on the plane, he's on the plane the first

922
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: eight Can you do this little thing? Wait, you gotta

923
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: finish it with take command? Okay, wait what it just

924
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: does about Carson? He's trying his best. He's not the

925
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: most charismatic guy, and he's like, and uh, as you

926
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: all know, no, nobody knows, literally, no one knows what

927
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: that means or what it's supposed to represent or whatever

928
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: the hell they're trying to get across. What about a

929
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: take to Let's let's try that again. That's fair. I

930
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: don't think he's you know, as a natural thespian or something.

931
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: But one more time, a lot of commanders in Washington,

932
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: I love this team, you know, as we all know,

933
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: decided to really go ahead and start to take command.

934
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and then get to Russell Wilson's

935
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: press conforts. Alright, we're back. This has been something I've

936
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: been excited about for a couple of weeks. Now, Russell

937
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: Wilson on a dais, this is how I imagined it

938
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: to be. I gotta say, I imagine it to be

939
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: maybe Hackets up there, the coach, maybe General Peyton's up there, fine,

940
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: but I wanted to see her up there. I wanted

941
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: future junior up there. I wanted future senior up there.

942
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: I wanted the future. The rapper was his children, Russell

943
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: Wilson's children in cr We're in the I mean, I

944
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: can't believe Sarah is not there. I can't believe she's

945
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: not sitting next to Russ because that would have been great.

946
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: But let's just play a couple of things, uh from

947
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: the press or why don't we start graver? Uh? Where

948
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: do we want to start? Let's just start off the top, uh,

949
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: General peyton Um explaining why, uh, he was excited to

950
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: have this new generational talent at quarterback. This is a

951
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: historic day for the Denver Broncos and all our fans

952
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: out there in Broncos country, and we're thrilled to welcome

953
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: quarterback Russell Wilson, a nine time Pro bowler, a Super

954
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: Bowl champion, Walter Payton Man of the Year to the

955
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. All right, and then before Russell Wilson takes

956
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: a stage, Nathaniel Hackett, he gets up in the head coach.

957
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: We like Hackett. We like his vibe. When you two

958
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: guys really are over the top of it. I I

959
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: kind of like he's got that embarrassing but good nature

960
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: dad vibe going onto him. And this is how he begins. Uh.

961
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: We have two parts here for Hackett. This is how

962
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: he begins to address the media on this very exciting

963
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: day and team history. Come on, y'all, Russell Wilson, Holy

964
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: very exciting little It was an incredible opener right there.

965
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: And then, like I said, it would have been cool

966
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: if Sierra was up there on the dais uh. And

967
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: that is something that I can absolutely promise you that

968
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: Mr Hackett felt as well, I'm not gonna lie. I

969
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: was very excited to meet his wife, um almost probably

970
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: more excited. Not gonna lie, but sorry for Russ. I mean,

971
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: I like him because I feel like he says things

972
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: that I would say, maybe in weird situations, and I

973
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: certainly Grave Digger would would probably what why because talking

974
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: about another man's wife specific to grave Digger, but I'm

975
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: saying in general the awkwardness. Did you connect with that

976
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: as a guy that covets the neighbor? No comment? I think, yeah,

977
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: there's something like listening to it back was great, but

978
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: seem his goofy faced Hackett and Dome as he's delivering

979
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: this and looking down on cr and like halfway through it,

980
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: he's almost as like, oh boy, maybe this isn't going

981
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: as perfectly as I want. Maybe this isn't going as

982
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: perfectly as I want. Oh I gotta just finish it.

983
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: Like no one laughed or anything. At one point he

984
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: had an a side set. I'm very lucky to be

985
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: up here in a suit like I just I don't

986
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: know the man is. He's intriguing that. He was all

987
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: very excited, and I think that goes along it would

988
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: it be cool if Justin's Twitter bio was like producer

989
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: NFL Network, host Titans film rum covets thy neighbor, she's separated,

990
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: we're together. Good point, good clarification. I don't know why

991
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: that came across as sad someone uh. And then Russell

992
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: Wilson took the stage. This is where I guess a

993
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: little bit of a disappointment came in. Because you were

994
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: looking for a ton of Russell Wilson cliches. We did

995
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: get one that I really enjoyed that I hadn't heard before,

996
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: and and it's something I guess that we should all

997
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: strive to keep in mind going forward. Every time I

998
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: call a play, I wanted offense to believe this play

999
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: could go to the house every single time. You can't

1000
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: mistake the work, you know, you know, so I was,

1001
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: I always say success leaves clues. Oh, success leaves clues.

1002
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: He always says it. I don't think he came up

1003
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: with that. I think that's probably been that mean, I

1004
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: think you can tell along the way if if you're

1005
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: doing the right thing, I mean, I'm assuming that great.

1006
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? Or I don't know that

1007
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: you can succeed the hard work in what you're doing.

1008
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: That's the clues dot com article, right, your two paragraphs

1009
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: and the great paragraphs you can tell you can see

1010
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: a cluse towards a successful overall articles. Success leaves clues,

1011
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you, um or leads to clues. I don't know, leaves,

1012
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: no leaves. Okay, there you go. Uh. And then on

1013
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: the day we learned of the new Washington catchphrase, take command. Uh?

1014
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? We're we're in command? Command

1015
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: to take command is the official half back everybody wants

1016
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: to know. Russell Wilson famously would end all media engagement

1017
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,479
Speaker 1: with Go Hawks. But you can't do that anymore, although

1018
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: it'd be kind of funny if he did. But he

1019
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: does have a new one. This is his new sign off.

1020
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: Get ready to hear this for the next three to

1021
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: ten years. Broncos Country, Let's rite one out of ten?

1022
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: Would you give it? Mark? I lived in Denver, so

1023
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: I have a soft spot for Denver on some level.

1024
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: But I'd be fine if we killed the Broncos country

1025
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: and just went with let's writing, Let's ride. And I

1026
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: think he went back to it later. I don't hate again.

1027
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: I think he was understated on the cheesy scale compared

1028
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: to what someone would expect. I'll have to decide here,

1029
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: Broncos Country. Let's rite. He put a little bit of

1030
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: the CRRA at twelve thirty we as we just signed

1031
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: our contract and I'm gonna go make a baby. He

1032
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: always where, he always works in that thing to let

1033
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: you know that he's in a physical relationship. Right, those

1034
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: are the leaves he leaves, that clue he when he

1035
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: does the like pretend I'm going to go through the

1036
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: whole game in the warmups, Like that's another clue. Like, hey,

1037
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm a head worker. That's a clue. Absolutely, the Seahawks

1038
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: are leaving some clues though too, like their their statement

1039
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: that they um left or that they put out as

1040
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was talking petty uh led by their owner

1041
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: which is really unique to me, led by their owner

1042
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: Jody Allen, the first sentence of which is while Russell

1043
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: made it clear he wanted this change, he made Seattle proud,

1044
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: dotted and moved on quickly to new players. Our leadership

1045
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: is great, all about the future. And then Pete Carroll

1046
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: doubled down on it and said, as Jodie mentioned, Russell

1047
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: wanted this change, and like wow, uh this is Uh,

1048
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: that's what I love about the NFL. It's such a

1049
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: petty league and it's basically high school. Uh. And Russell

1050
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: Wilson Lindsay Jones, who's a great reporter with the Athletic

1051
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: she's the senior writer there, and she was plugged in enough,

1052
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: I guess on Twitter to see that the Seahawks went

1053
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: down that road. So she quickly pivots and asks Russ

1054
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: about the Seahawks, making it very clear that you, sir,

1055
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: were the one that wanted to end the marriage. While

1056
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: We've been talking to Seahawks and put out a statement

1057
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: where they said that you kind of initiated Um this,

1058
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: Why wasn't that you felt that it was a time

1059
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: time for change? And when did that feeling really start? Yeah?

1060
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: I didn't initiate it. It was definitely mutual along the way.

1061
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: There's definitely been a lot of conversations. This hasn't been

1062
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: I initiated anything, but it is what it is. I'm

1063
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here, that's all I know. Obviously

1064
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm happy about the ten years I've had. But I

1065
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: think that um, you know, it's uh, you know, we'll

1066
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: have to read about it later. We'll have some fun.

1067
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: Maybe on my book one day, we'll have some good stories.

1068
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: The way that she phrased that question was an A

1069
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: plus home run out of the park. She left him

1070
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: with no avenue that but to have to address it

1071
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: and the way she wanted he have to eat. She

1072
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: even had to ask again what words she used because

1073
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: it was cutting. How petty did they put it out

1074
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: during the press conference? That is insane. His his facial

1075
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: reaction for half a second when she asked it was

1076
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: the most authentic, And he wasn't expecting, you know, yeah,

1077
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: moment of the press content because he was just he

1078
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: just got to get this look at his face, like mother. Yeah.

1079
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: And as we're taping, they're actually doing their own press conference.

1080
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure why. I just I guess announcing

1081
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: center right, announcing free agency signings, and Pete Carroll is

1082
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: quoted during that press conference saying, we've been successful for

1083
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: a long time, and we're proud of that. But we're

1084
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: also proud of the fact that we know what we're doing.

1085
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: So he's just like, back off. We got this fun,

1086
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: fun little subplot. Cool dad was asked, I guess what

1087
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: his feeling was when he found out that it was happening.

1088
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, pure joy. He No, he wasn't asked anything.

1089
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: He just said that with with no prompting. That's what

1090
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: what we liked about it. Um. So there you go.

1091
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: That is the Rustle Wilson press conference. And you know,

1092
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: hopefully Nathan Nathaniel Hackett could keep it together, uh Sierras

1093
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: around during the season. It just seems like it's gonna

1094
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: be a challenge for There's no way she enjoyed that

1095
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: awkward five seconds. So in hindsight, he could you revise

1096
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: the game plan here? Right? They might start the thing

1097
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: where like they have a little you know, electric shocker

1098
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: on his body, so when he starts to go off script,

1099
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: it's like being alright, just raining it in, dad, chill

1100
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: it out. All right. There you go, three shows in.

1101
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: It is now the new year for the NFL two season.

1102
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: Will probably back with another show tomorrow. We're gonna track

1103
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: what's going on in our league. And uh, the signings

1104
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: are going slow. Well more than half of the top

1105
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: one O one is still available, including twelve of the

1106
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: top twenty five of the top ten. It usually doesn't

1107
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: go this slow. I don't know. I don't have a great,

1108
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: great theory why, But it's definitely just kind of moving

1109
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: a long slowly instead of quarterback Domino the quack. If

1110
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: you're like, uh, one of our fans of the show

1111
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: and we love you who can't get enough of a

1112
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: t N and like the more shows the better, having

1113
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: a fourth episode this week comes down to not us

1114
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: but our league, you know, pepping it up a little bit.

1115
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: Let's get Allen Robinson off the board, let's get let's

1116
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 1: get von Miller other quarterback move, let's get let's let's

1117
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: get Baker traded, Let's get Honey Badger moving. Uh. And

1118
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: if those things happen in the next twenty four hours

1119
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: or so, you will hear from us. Uh could be

1120
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: an emergency podcast from our own homes. You never know, Mark,

1121
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: but this is about show business, So give us a

1122
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: good show, NFL, and then we'll give them a show.

1123
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: We also have Friday the around the NFL broadcast, so

1124
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: even if you don't hear from us on Thursday, you

1125
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: could check us out on Friday where we will give

1126
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: a full rundown of the week that was in our league,

1127
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back Monday with another show. But again,

1128
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: you could hear from getting tomorrow and if you don't

1129
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: just listen to one of these episodes twice and you're

1130
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: covered anything else. Definitely not great job. Justin behind the Glass,

1131
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: Randy Um held fire on his new enemy. Uh, George Py,

1132
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: you were really getting annoyed, you thought, George King about

1133
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: him to one little thing where he was like talking

1134
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: about he was in the room with Hackett and Russell Wilson.

1135
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: They were going place like I could only stick around

1136
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: for half an hour, like, oh, you're so like, I

1137
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: get you're busy, but it's like he had a couple

1138
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: of comments that felt a little corporate to me. Um.

1139
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: It kind of rubbed up against my past corporate jobs

1140
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: that were not non fun. And he's kind of the

1141
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: guy on the conference call in this in this thing

1142
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: we just saw that needs to make the extra comment

1143
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: just to make everyone else aware that A he's on

1144
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: the call and be look at my little look at

1145
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: my little call, like my little comment here. It's like

1146
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: totally not helpful. We get it. You think you're me

1147
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: d throws a question, Oh we have we have one

1148
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: for Mr Peyton and and also Mr Hackett, Like why

1149
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: what what was the what was the real impetus between

1150
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: making sure you get Russell Wilson, and once Hackett jumps

1151
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: in first, Peyton can't be just like, oh, that's good

1152
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: enough to stand. It's like, I'm the one who made

1153
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: this happen. I need to say something as well. And

1154
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: I realized I'm with you, I get it. I'm with

1155
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: myself also, But I I am not um. I'm not

1156
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: in the habit of trying to burn a bridge with

1157
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: every new episode. So I'm I will TBT whether or

1158
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: not I find him a friend or phone right and

1159
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: TBD weather flashpoint series continues. Um again. Sometimes you just

1160
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: got to know if you want to have one of

1161
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: those special properties that just stands on its own. Like

1162
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: let's say, um, Star Star Wars. If Star Wars just

1163
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: did the three movies way back when, yeah, and they

1164
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: ended it with Phantom Menace. If they just ended it there, no, no, no,

1165
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: it would have been the legacy would have been secure

1166
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: the seventies ones into the early eighties. You just stopped

1167
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: right there. I think everyone would have been fine to

1168
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: be honest and kept going right and just it got sloppy.

1169
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: It's become a soup. Yeah, Phantom Menace maybe the worst.

1170
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: It may be one of the worst. Movies of all time. Yeah,

1171
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's keep it out of this realm.

1172
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: We're not that's not what this podcast is about. You

1173
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: maybe take that to the Titans film room with that

1174
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: guy you fired. You raised the topic anyway, Thank you

1175
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: everybody for listening. That's enough ridiculous. We'll be back maybe tomorrow,

1176
01:03:41,320 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: definitely on Friday, definitely Monday. Until then, the call s