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Speaker 1: Hey, Colts fans, I'm JJ Stankaviitz. Welcome into another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Cult Show in Indianapolis Colts Podcast. We have

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Speaker 1: a training camp preview coming up on today's episode, and

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Speaker 1: who better to talk camp with me and my friend

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Speaker 1: Lara over Tim, Lara, Welcome to the podcast. We used

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Speaker 1: to do plenty of these together and excited to hang

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Speaker 1: you back on here.

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Speaker 2: It's great to be back and to feel like the

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Speaker 2: ramp up is underway, Like this is where you start

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Speaker 2: to feel like you've got a little activity. You're counting

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Speaker 2: down until the players report to Grand Park. So ready

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Speaker 2: to get going.

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Speaker 1: I know it's like this is the last episode until

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Speaker 1: get the show out to more people. All right, Learra,

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Speaker 1: how do you watch training camp? Like, because we all

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Speaker 1: go to camp, right camp, and like you and I

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Speaker 1: have been going to what this same thing is my

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Speaker 1: tenth training camp I've gone to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it would be something like that for me

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Speaker 2: because I had the few years before the team and

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Speaker 2: now this will be what my sixth season with the team.

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Speaker 1: Then this is my ninth because it's my fifth season

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Speaker 1: with the team. Ok. Yeah, did four prior in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, watching training camp is an interesting experience because

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Speaker 1: you can take in so much you can't like, how

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Speaker 2: That's such a great question. I think one of the

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Speaker 2: things is I like to watch a lot of who

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Speaker 2: is matching up against two in certain situations one on

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Speaker 2: in those matchups, who is you know, kind of showing

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Speaker 2: just some form, Especially as you get into those later

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Speaker 2: series of camps. That's something you really look for, especially

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Speaker 2: with those joint practice opportunities. Those are some of the

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Speaker 2: caliber type of competition. Like another thing like this is

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Speaker 2: probably gonna sound like very kind of surface. But it's

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Speaker 2: just like who looks fast? Like when you're getting out

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Speaker 2: there right, like who who's like getting off the line, well,

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Speaker 2: who's running crisp routes, who's getting downfield, who's getting open,

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Speaker 2: who's getting to players defensively? Like that's just one thing

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Speaker 2: I think that you can just kind of watch and see,

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Speaker 2: And it's something that I think you can glean from

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Speaker 2: camp because it's something you don't really see full speed,

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Speaker 2: full reps, when you're in OTAs, when you're in mini

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Speaker 2: camps all of that. So to me, that's one of

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Speaker 2: that specifically. How about you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like I fill up a notebook

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Speaker 1: every day with like I'm looking for the splash place

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Speaker 1: kind of similar to who's look and fast? It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: who went who made a couple of plays today that

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Speaker 1: you kind of track that throughout training camp.

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Speaker 1: You know, and last year it was Alec Pierce. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like every day Alec was out there making plays and

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Speaker 1: go work out. We're but just like, how do you

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Speaker 1: contextualize this? Because camp, you can read too much into

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Speaker 1: quote unquote or a he's struggling in camp quote unquote.

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Speaker 2: Here is what I look to is one day is

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Speaker 2: Is trying to make sure your highs aren't too high

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Speaker 2: what I really like to find as much as you

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Speaker 2: like to see a guy struggle and then come back

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Speaker 2: and how does he handle that adversity the next day,

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Speaker 2: Because that's what you're gonna face in games during the

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Speaker 2: regular season, is you're gonna have a down series, You're

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Speaker 2: gonna have an off series. Okay, do you come back

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Speaker 2: that next series and learn from your mistakes? And you're

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Speaker 2: how quickly are guys learning, How quickly are they adapting

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Speaker 2: how quickly are guys implementing changes and coaching from this

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Speaker 2: it's quick paced, and that's likely what you're going to see.

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Speaker 2: to see is how quickly can guys kind of wash

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's you know, speaking about

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Speaker 1: I didn't really notice him the first week. He'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: You're not worried about him. But there are guys who,

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Speaker 1: so you can do that. I just think, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes we because we're so excited to get football back,

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Speaker 1: we focus on the micro not the macro with camp,

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Speaker 1: and it's all about figuring out like the like training

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Speaker 1: camp was once put to me as in practices are

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Speaker 1: quizzes and the games are tests. And I think I

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Speaker 1: would probably say the games and the joint practices are tests.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would heavily weight joint practices, especially this year, because.

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Speaker 1: That's where that's where it's you know, the league is

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Speaker 1: gone with that. But I think take every day as

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Speaker 1: a final grade. And you could start off with three

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of the the general scope that you know,

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Speaker 2: I have the cheat sheet, so yeah, you do.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing all of our listeners and viewers are like,

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Speaker 1: how did you make it this far in the podcast

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Speaker 1: without mentioning Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones. Well, here we go.

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Speaker 1: This is the number one thing that we are going

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Speaker 1: the question involving the twenty twenty five Colts, who's going

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Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback and how will it be

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Speaker 1: determined in training camp? Now, the first sub question on

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Speaker 1: right now. We don't know we're taping this in July.

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Speaker 1: We're still at thirty sixth Street. We're not up a

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Speaker 1: from Shane Steichen will probably I guess it could be

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Speaker 1: one or not? That's the first question that has to be.

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Speaker 2: Answered absolutely, And you know we did hear Anthony was

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Speaker 2: he indicated that he's feeling really good. He's very optimistic

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Speaker 2: based on you know, his perspective and where he stands.

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Speaker 2: But given the injury and what he endured this spring

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Speaker 2: early summer, you can't risk rushing anything with him. It's

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Speaker 2: not worth the gamble of pressing to be ready to

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Speaker 2: start training camp if that jeopardizes where he is to

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Speaker 1: Does that put him behind the eight ball if he

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Speaker 1: That's the thing? Is I think he might. All you

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Speaker 1: mini camp, that's one thing. Missing training camp practices is

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Speaker 2: But I also think that if that if you do,

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Speaker 2: that type, it's completely different. So you see that very

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Speaker 2: steady progression ramp up the first week of practice. Once

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Speaker 2: So to me, if Anthony Richardson is ready to go

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Speaker 2: day one, I do.

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Speaker 1: I think this is interesting though. In years past the

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Speaker 1: Colts have had their first practice and then they've had

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Speaker 1: a walk through the day after. This year, it's four

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Speaker 1: all you can get your tickets on colts dot com

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Speaker 1: slash camp to come out, come see us there. But

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Speaker 1: it is it is four straight days of that ramp

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Speaker 1: another practice, which I think then the regulations are you

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Speaker 2: things like and I really feel like that we will

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Speaker 2: see who has done that within this offense when you

436
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Speaker 2: get into training camp.

437
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Speaker 1: All right, last one here about quarterbacks. Does Riley Leonard

438
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Speaker 1: factor in at all? Here? Do you expect that? I

439
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: mean I look at it and I say, he's a

440
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Speaker 1: six round pick. You know, I think the expectations for

441
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Speaker 1: someone drafted there are, Yeah, you're probably a backup, probably

442
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: third stringer. I wouldn't put it at zero that'll factor in,

443
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Speaker 1: but I would say it would take an exceptional training

444
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Speaker 1: camp for him to factor in.

445
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: When you have a Day three pick, this is something like, hey,

446
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: we're excited to see what he can do out there, like,

447
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: let's just see, let's just see what you can do.

448
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: And you're talking about a guy who was probably most

449
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Speaker 2: likely like two years away. You know, maybe he factors in,

450
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Speaker 2: you know, depending on how things another year from now.

451
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Speaker 2: And obviously you kind of look at maybe other situations

452
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Speaker 2: of quarterbacks who are taking in similar positions and different things.

453
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think in twenty twenty, twenty twenty two,

454
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Speaker 1: was it with the forty nine ers, Rock Purty didn't

455
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Speaker 1: Rock Purty was the third I mean, obviously he's the

456
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Speaker 1: example now he's outlier. He supplanted Tom Brady as the

457
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Speaker 1: Day three outlier, but like it was still it was

458
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Speaker 1: Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo, Yeah, who were competing there.

459
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't until both those guys got hurt. Yeah,

460
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Speaker 1: that brock Purty got a chance to play. Yeah, but

461
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Speaker 1: I think behind the scenes, I think the forty nine ers,

462
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Speaker 1: you're like, I think we got something here. But it

463
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Speaker 1: wasn't like he had pushed his way up to push

464
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Speaker 1: either of those guys for playing time. It was more like,

465
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Speaker 1: I think we got something, but like it's it's it's

466
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Speaker 1: gonna be Lance and it's Garoppolo.

467
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Speaker 2: I think anything that Riley Leonard shows you is something

468
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Speaker 2: that's going to be fun to see. It's gonna be

469
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Speaker 2: encouraging for what the future could be for him at

470
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Speaker 2: the quarterback position. Probably not something for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so that's the the position battle, right,

472
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Speaker 1: That's yeah. I counted eight others that I put on

473
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Speaker 1: the rundown of, like I'm interested in watching these, and

474
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Speaker 1: like I kept I started with like the obvious ones,

475
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Speaker 1: and then I just kept adding them, and I thought

476
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Speaker 1: back to what Chris Ballard said at the end of

477
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Speaker 1: last season. Yeah, of we have to add more competition

478
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Speaker 1: to this roster. No, I think it's right here in

479
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: what I ran down. So I've got eight of these

480
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Speaker 1: that I'm like, I'm going to be keeping an eye

481
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Speaker 1: on these. Let's start on the offensive line. Yeah, and

482
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Speaker 1: we don't need to spend a ton of time on each,

483
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Speaker 1: but just a quick preview. Let's start at center, Danny

484
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Speaker 1: Pinter and Tanner BORDERLINI Tanner Bordellini is not one the.

485
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Speaker 2: Bigness his job big void with Ryan Kelly.

486
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Speaker 1: It is, and that's why I started at center, and

487
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Speaker 1: then right guards the next one with Macknzoalvez. But I

488
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people have, you know, probably just

489
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Speaker 1: penciled in Bordolini in there. But Danny Pinter is going

490
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Speaker 1: to compete to win that job. He is.

491
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Speaker 2: You think about the level at which Danny Pincher was

492
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Speaker 2: playing before he suffered the injury during the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I was twenty twenty three.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I mean I just thought he was. I mean,

495
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Speaker 2: he was playing great and at that point, now he

496
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: wasn't probably going to plant Ryan Kelly, but he had

497
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Speaker 2: positioned himself very well to be.

498
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Speaker 1: There's a reason why the Colds had brought him back

499
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Speaker 1: two times.

500
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Speaker 2: And this is something that I learned from Tony Sperano.

501
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Speaker 2: And I was actually doing an interview maybe a week

502
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Speaker 2: or so ago, and I just pointed to I don't

503
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Speaker 2: know that outside of this building, people around the league

504
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Speaker 2: recognize how excellent of a position group coach Tony Sperano is. Like,

505
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Speaker 2: I don't know that he gets enough credit for what

506
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Speaker 2: he does with Pepper.

507
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you think about like the guys who are

508
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Speaker 1: always mentioned as the best O line coaches in the league,

509
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Speaker 1: and it's you know, what's his face in Philly, which

510
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: is terrible, and I can't remember his name because he's

511
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Speaker 1: the best one, sure, yep, But you know there's there's him,

512
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Speaker 1: and there are a couple other guys around the league

513
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Speaker 1: who it's like consistently And I'm like, I don't know,

514
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: man like Tony Soprano Junior developed Will fries and Bernard

515
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Speaker 1: Ryman into legitimately really good NFL starters. Yeah, Will Fryes

516
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: just made a ton of money. Bernard Ryman's going to

517
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Speaker 1: make a ton of money, right And you know, I

518
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Speaker 1: I think now he's in charge of the Bordolini's. You're

519
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: you know Macknzalvas getting those guys to a point, but look,

520
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: Danny Pinter is a veteran who, like we've talked about,

521
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Speaker 1: he's not just gonna he's got a chance to start.

522
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Speaker 2: Something I learned too, was that as soon as the

523
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Speaker 2: decision was made to give Tanner some of those reps,

524
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Speaker 2: when Ryan Kelly was out and they had made a

525
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Speaker 2: decision to go with Tanner over Danny, no one was

526
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Speaker 2: more supportive of Tanner Bornelini than Danny Pinter doing the

527
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Speaker 2: extra work with him, taking him under his wing, helping him,

528
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: you know, in every situation possible, breaking down film with

529
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Speaker 2: him doing all of the extra things. Like truly, Danny

530
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Speaker 2: is one of the like consummate teammates that you yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so like that is so indicative not only have

532
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Speaker 2: type teammates, but also the confidence that he has in

533
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: himself to be like, hey, I'm going to do my

534
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Speaker 2: best job and just know that my best is going

535
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Speaker 2: to give me a chance to compete, but my best

536
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Speaker 2: is also going to make Tanner his best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so Bordolini last year did not give up

538
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: a sack on two hundred and ten pass blocking snaps,

539
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: So that's pretty good. When the Colts needed a center

540
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: to step in for Ryan Kelly in weeks thirteen and fifteen,

541
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Speaker 1: they went with Danny Pinter. So again, I think that

542
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: that one is a lot more even than you might

543
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Speaker 1: just sort of assume at right guard. I do think

544
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Speaker 1: I put this one in here as Macknzalbez versus the field, yeah,

545
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Speaker 1: because I do think he has the inside track there.

546
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Speaker 1: But the Colts do have a couple of guys, you know,

547
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Speaker 1: Tony Sparano Junior is mentioned, Josh Sills, Dalton Tucker started

548
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: some games last year. He's still going to have to

549
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: go earn it during training camp.

550
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Speaker 2: No question. And I think that's that's something that you're

551
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Speaker 2: going to see in just the level, as you said,

552
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: the competition. You want to be sure guys are pushed

553
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: in camp. I do think that there is a reason

554
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: that you spent high draft capital to get Mac Gonsolva's

555
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: where you see run exactly like you.

556
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: Expect those guys to be starters at some point.

557
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you see the work that Matt Gonsalvez

558
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: has put in, he knows what the expectation is going

559
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: into the season. This is a guy who is ready

560
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: for the opportunity to earn it. He's not ready to

561
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: be given the starting job. He's ready to prove that

562
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: he has earned and is willing to fight for that

563
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: starting job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got that physical, kind of nasty streak. I've

565
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: talked about it on this podcast. Like, I like that

566
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: at guard for him, and then you know, we'll see

567
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: where things go in the future for him. But I

568
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: think for right now, I like him in there competing

569
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: to win at guard.

570
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Speaker 2: Right, who's better positioned to challenge Matt Gonsalvas than having

571
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Speaker 2: coach Partridge over on the defensive line when those guys

572
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: were together.

573
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Speaker 1: Are together at Pitt Yeah, you know, all right? The

574
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: next one's kind of spicy, Oh yeah, because it's cornerback

575
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: and it's not Kenny Moore. The second it's not Tarvarius Ward.

576
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: Who's that third cornerback, It's been Jalen Jones. And he

577
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: has not let go of that job in two years.

578
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: He has fought for it, he has earned it, and

579
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Speaker 1: he has kept it.

580
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

581
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Speaker 1: Having said that, it is a new defensive coordinator coming

582
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: in fresh set of eyes. Maybe I don't know what

583
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: lou Anarumo might want there. And you have justin Wally

584
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: and Juju Brentz right there. Yeah, as guys who you

585
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: have spent a lot of draft capital on, who can compete,

586
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: Like I don't doubt for a second that Jalen Jones

587
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: will compete to hang on to that job.

588
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: That's all he's done.

589
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: However, he's going to have to compete to hang onto

590
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Speaker 1: that job. That's why I put it on here, and

591
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. That's a healthy thing

592
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: for this roster.

593
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: None of these guys shy away from a challenge. One

594
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: of the things we have heard about Justin Wally is

595
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: just how hungry, how competitive.

596
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: Like Shane Stikeen, I asked him a question just about

597
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: like the rookies in general, and he right, no, it

598
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: was about lou Anarromo's defense. It wasn't even about the rookies,

599
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: and he immediately just was like, Justin Wallly's been making

600
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: him play every single day out here. I was during

601
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Speaker 1: OTA's and it's like, okay, you take a note of

602
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: the head coach shouting out a rookie corner like that.

603
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: Well, I remember talking to Tyler Hughes, who was the

604
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: area of scout who covered Justin Wallly and had a

605
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: lot of draft picks in this last draft class, And

606
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: when I was asking him about Justin Wallly, he said,

607
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: when we went into the draft room, you know, for

608
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: some of our conversations, Chris Ballard kept reinforcing, don't let

609
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: me forget about toughness. And that was one of the

610
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: biggest cells on Justin Wallly. I mean, all of the

611
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: measurables are there, but everyone just coming kept coming back

612
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: to this guy is so tough, so tough. I know

613
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: you talked to him during media day. He is so

614
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 2: much fun to watch. But to me, like Jalen versus

615
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: Justin versus Juju, these are guys with pretty varied skill sets,

616
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: like very different, like you know, very.

617
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: Different tackles last year. I genuinely didn't know that until

618
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: I pulled up his Pro Football Reference pages, Like, oh

619
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: my god, he had a hundred tackles.

620
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I think, I mean, to me, like the most unknown.

621
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Speaker 2: Although Justin Waally is is a rookie, is.

622
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Speaker 1: Juju Brents Like if he's healthy.

623
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Speaker 2: When he's healthy, that guy makes plays. It's like when

624
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: he can stay on the field, he makes plays on

625
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: the field. So to me, I think Jalen has shown

626
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: you what he's going to be, Like, I don't know

627
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: that there's a player who's had more consistency, you know,

628
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: maybe than what Jalen Jones has showed you. There's a

629
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: huge upside with Justin Wally. He talked about modeling a

630
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: lot of his game off of Kenny Moore, right, So

631
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: there's an area there too where he may play behind

632
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: Kenny in certain situations kind of full and I think.

633
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: I think with Lou playing more dime coverages, you're going

634
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: to need a fourth cornerback and I think that guy

635
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: would probably be Justin Wally in that situation, but it

636
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: could also be Juju Brents because you can move Tarvarius

637
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: Ward inside. Yeah, if Juju shows you something and like oh,

638
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: you got to get him on the field on the outside.

639
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: So both these guys, it's not just competing against Jalen Jones,

640
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: but it's competing for that probably that third fourth cornerback

641
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: spot that is going to see a lot of playing

642
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: time this year. It's not going to be as static

643
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: as we're just playing three and that' set.

644
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm excited for that group in particular, especially

645
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: with what that group looks like under lou All.

646
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Right linebacker, the spot opposite Zaire Franklin, Jalen Carlis, or

647
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: the field because neither Jalen Carlives nor Zire Franklin participated

648
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: in the off season program. They were both recovering from

649
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Speaker 1: off season procedures. So shake gua Lubi, Cameron mcgrone, Joe

650
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 1: Bachi Like, there are a couple of guys here, you know,

651
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Liam Anderson, a couple of guys. You're like, okay, yeah,

652
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: maybe there's some competition there. Or was the Colt's lack

653
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: of movement at that position this offseason, you know, outside

654
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: of signing Bachi, who is in Cincinnati mostly as a

655
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: special teamer, was there lack of movement in the off

656
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: season a sign that we really like It's Chris ball

657
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: or putting his money where his mouth is. We really

658
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: like Jaalen Carlis and think he's going to be a

659
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: good starter for us. Yeah.

660
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Speaker 2: I think because when you look at one of the

661
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Speaker 2: areas that you have done really well in terms of

662
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: guys you've brought in, you look at the linebacker position.

663
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: When you look at you know, going back to Darius Leonard,

664
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Speaker 2: Zaire Franklin, a j speed Yo Kara Kay. Yeah, I

665
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: mean just all of the different guys who you've had.

666
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Speaker 2: That's been a really good rotation of guys who you

667
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: have been able to have. So I do think you

668
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: feel pretty good about the group that you have. I

669
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: think that Shay Gula Lubi is probably one of the

670
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Speaker 2: more underrated guys on this roster because every time he

671
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: gets an opportunity, he proves to you why he has

672
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: been that guy, why he has gotten the call, why

673
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: he has stepped up. When you think about, you know,

674
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Speaker 2: the rare acaide. I mean, we haven't seen zyr Franklin

675
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: miss a ton of time, but when he has Carolina, Yeah,

676
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: Jay was significant. I do think that Jalen Carlis has

677
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: immense upside. I am so excited for him. And my

678
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: thing was too, is you know, late in the season

679
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Speaker 2: he came back off of I think it was the

680
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: shoulder injury, right, it was, That's what it was, and

681
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: immediately was impactful and that was one of the things

682
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Speaker 2: like I talked to him about then, is you know,

683
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: like what did you want to show? And he just

684
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: talked about like the eagerness for wanting to be sure

685
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 2: he was there for his team, wanting to be, you know,

686
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: the guy that they needed him to be, even though

687
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: he was still progressing back off of that. Yeah, that's

688
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: a really that's just I love that group. I love

689
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: the depth that they have. That's kind of one to me,

690
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: where like I have no concern about that area.

691
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: Right So, and here's where I'm at with it. And

692
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: now I got this question from James Bentley from Coldwater, Michigan,

693
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Speaker 1: and he asked about Jermaine Pratt, who's a linebacker with

694
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Speaker 1: the Bengals who Cincinnati released and then he signed with

695
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: the Raiders. If you signed Jermaine Pratt, you're cutting off

696
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: a path to development for Jail and Carlish. And if

697
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: you believe in Jail and Carlis, you should stick with that.

698
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: You should stick with that plan. Not a one year

699
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: stop gap. Yes, he played with Luanna Rumo. But if again,

700
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Speaker 1: if you like Jail and Carlis, don't cut off his

701
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: path to growth and to development because if he hits, great,

702
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: you've got your solution at you know, weak side linebacker

703
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: for the next couple of years. And like you said, Larry,

704
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: you've done pretty good job finding these guys. On Day two,

705
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: On Day three the NFL.

706
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: Draft and He was one of the more intriguing guys

707
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: to me last year when we were talking about early

708
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: season right like, he looked.

709
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: He was making making then he got hurt, But he

710
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: was making a ton of.

711
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: Plays, making a ton of plays. So I do think

712
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: that what he has shown so far gives you a

713
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: really good indication of what he is going to do

714
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: when fully clear to participate, as you hope he is

715
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Speaker 2: to start training camp.

716
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Speaker 1: All right, backup running back. This is a This is

717
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Speaker 1: a good wild This is a good one. You got

718
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Speaker 1: Khalil Herbert, he signed as a free agent in March.

719
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Speaker 1: You've got DJ Giddens, so you took in the fifth

720
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Speaker 1: round out of Kansas State, and he got Tyler Goodson

721
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: coming back for his third year. Ye did this one, man,

722
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to handicap it,

723
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: because you've got You've got some guys here who like

724
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: the Colts, really like Giddons, They really really like this guy.

725
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: But Khalil Herbert, this was a fun one that I

726
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: looked up among running back with at least three hundred

727
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: rushing attempts from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three.

728
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Speaker 1: So twenty twenty four in that span, Khalil Herbert was

729
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: tied for a third in yards per attempt at four

730
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: point nine. Here are the guys. He was tied with

731
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Speaker 1: four other players, Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, Raheem Moster, and

732
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. That's a pretty good company to be in.

733
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Speaker 1: He's a Khalil Herbert's a good football player, and yeah,

734
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: DJ Giddens is also a good football player. But like,

735
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: hold up a second, because that right there, those two

736
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Speaker 1: guys in that you know, Goodson's been here for three

737
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: years now, those couple of guys I could see having

738
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: a really interesting battle, especially when you get down to me,

739
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: when you get into the preseason games with those guys,

740
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Speaker 1: that's not I'm going to really look forward of the

741
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: season games among that crew.

742
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Speaker 2: Now, going back, this has been a while, but when

743
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: you look to this offense two years ago, Jonathan Taylor

744
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: and Zach Moss, that was a dynamic duo in the

745
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 2: run game. And of course there are a few running

746
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: backs who are Jonathan Taylor and rightfully so, but Zach

747
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: Moss was such a complimentary piece where it gave you

748
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: a bit of a change of pace and you kept

749
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: defenses honest, even when you had Zach Moss out on

750
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: the field and you were giving Jonathan Taylor well deserved rest,

751
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: and there was a drop off last year when you

752
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: went to Trey Sarmon or Tyler Goodson in those types

753
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: of situations. Obviously, Goodson's a little bit different. He's more

754
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: of kind of that pass catching type of running back,

755
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of a different weapon in that regard.

756
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: But I am really excited for that competition, in particular

757
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: with the way this offense wants to operate. We talked

758
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: about the priority on the explosiveness in the passing game.

759
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: You want to be able to have that dual threat

760
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: of your running you know, your running capable quarterback and

761
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: a run threat in your running back, and that be

762
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: able to create some opportunities with what you're able to

763
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Speaker 2: do in terms of the dynamic of this offense.

764
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Speaker 1: All right, next one here, I just put this as

765
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Speaker 1: Ad and I Mitchell versus the depth because like our

766
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, Junior, Josh Downs and Alec Pierce said, they

767
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: kind of entrenched as the top three or Canady work

768
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: his way in there. And I mean this is saying

769
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: like there's going to be rotation there, Adie Mitchell is

770
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: going to get opportunities, but like, essentially, how many opportunities

771
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: is he going to earn during training camp? With I

772
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: think those three guys probably being in pretty solidified roles

773
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: within this offense, He's.

774
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Speaker 2: Gonna have to earn his way into it for sure,

775
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 2: from what you've seen, and he's very intriguing. He's probably

776
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: one of the more intriguing players that you have on

777
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: this entire roster.

778
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: I think if you talk to some people, and I've

779
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: had this conversation with folks outside the building, they'll tell

780
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: you he's the most talented receiver on this team. That

781
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's the best receiver on this team, but

782
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: from a pure town, I mean, you look at the

783
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: way he gets open. There aren't many guys in the

784
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: NFL who get open like he can. But can he

785
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: get open on time? Can he catch the ball in traffic?

786
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: Can he do some of the things that held him

787
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: back last year and overcome those this year?

788
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: And one of the things that we have seen have

789
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: tended to see from receivers, and I do think that,

790
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: you know, Alec Peerce has been a good example of

791
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: this is like that leap from you know, either year

792
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: one to year two or year two to year three.

793
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: At the receiver position, it tends to be pretty significant.

794
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: You know, when you think about Josh Downs was in

795
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: terms of what he did his you know, rookie season, rare,

796
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: pretty rare, right rookie record, you know, you know, Supplanted

797
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: Barrow and Billy Brooks.

798
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: Bill Brooks.

799
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: So I do think that you can't weigh too heavily

800
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: some of maybe the disappointment, so to speak, from ad

801
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: Mitchell in year one, just because that is such an

802
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: area for growth. I think that it's going to be

803
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: seen like he's got to establish chemistry with both quarterbacks.

804
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: He's got to be able to show that he's equally

805
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: effective regardless of who is under center within this offense.

806
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: So I think that that's something that is going to

807
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 2: be key to see within this But I do really

808
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: think that you go into camp and you you know,

809
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: if you're Pitt and you're Alec and you're Josh, like

810
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: you feel pretty comfortable with where you are. Not to

811
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: say that they're going to be complacent in any way,

812
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: They're still going to be challenging, they're going to be pushed.

813
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: But I do think that Adie Mitchell comes into this

814
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: training camp with a whole lot to prove.

815
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: And I think it's a really good thing if Ady

816
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Mitchell comes into camp and he starts showing out out there,

817
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: because again, you're talking about that healthy tension on the team.

818
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: Every single one of those guys Pittman, Down's Pierce who

819
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: are not operating like you know, their job as theirs,

820
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you do have a guy who's

821
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: performing well, I better go out and perform, Yeah, because

822
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: that guy's he may not start over me, but he

823
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: might eat into my reps. And that stuff is really

824
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: healthy for a team to have that. And again, this

825
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: team didn't have a ton of that last year except

826
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: at wide receiver when Alec Pierce took that huge step

827
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: forward in part because of that healthy tension that came

828
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: from the competition he had with Adie Mitchell.

829
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 2: My other thing is, yeah, show it in practice. That's great.

830
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: Translate it to joint, Translate it to preseason games. Translate

831
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Speaker 2: it because I do feel like that we saw him

832
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: in training camp. You saw some flashes.

833
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: Now he is a dominant one on one player in

834
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: training camp. Dominant because the way he gets open, Like

835
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: I just talked about but yeah, can he translate that

836
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: to everything else?

837
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: Once you get open? What are you doing with it?

838
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: Exactly?

839
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: What are you doing with the football at that point?

840
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: And you know, I think a year of you know,

841
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: growth for him, I hope will help. And he's again

842
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: if if it comes together for Adi Mitchell, like oh

843
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: my god, he could be good.

844
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 2: And this offense will be really exciting to watch rush too,

845
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 2: Like that's what you want? Is like having those four

846
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: guys as options. Plus you put Ashton Doolan in there,

847
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: you know, as another piece in there, and you add

848
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: and then you add, you know, your tight end group

849
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: led by Tyler Warren, which.

850
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Speaker 1: We are going to talk about. We are going to

851
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: get to him, all right, but let's let's move on

852
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: to more competitions here. I got two more defensive end

853
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: I could not soar out who's going to start between

854
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: Quitty Pay, Samson, Ebicom, Layatu Latu Taekwon Lewis and then

855
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: also J T. Tu Umolowau. You got five guys in

856
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: there who all have some sort of pedigree starting pedigree

857
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: to them. Obviously, Pay and Ebicom have been in trench starters.

858
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: Samson did not play last year due to the Achilles injury.

859
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: Layatu Latu played quite a bit last year. Taekwon Lewis

860
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: a guy who every single coach who's ever coached Taekwon

861
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Lewis is like, I love that dude. I trust him

862
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: with everything. And then you know, you draft JT to

863
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: Umoloa in the second round, assuming he's going to start

864
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: at some point. That's why you draft him there. So look,

865
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: everyone's going to play there. But what does this rotation

866
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: look like? And I think the question to answer here

867
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: is maybe what's fair to expect out of Samson coming

868
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: off the Achilles injury.

869
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because he led the team in sacks

870
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: in twenty three.

871
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't also a great run defender that year.

872
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, really he was, And I don't know that you

873
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: can expect him to necessarily be that immediately off of

874
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: the injury. I think it's reasonable to give him somewhat

875
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: of a runway to build up over the course of

876
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 2: kind of that early part of the season. But knowing

877
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: what we have seen from Samson, ebcom like he's going

878
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: to make it hard for you to keep him off

879
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: the field. That's one thing I know. I don't know

880
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: what the numbers are going to look like exactly what

881
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: the rotation is going to look like, but he is

882
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: going to give himself every opportunity to be on the

883
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: field and give you every reason to put him out there.

884
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting to me is I was looking at

885
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: snap percentages from the last two years from the Colts'

886
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: top four defensive ends, and in twenty twenty three, Ebiccom

887
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: and pay Paid played sixty percent, Dio Dangbo was at

888
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: fifty three percent, Taekwon Lewis is at thirty seven percent.

889
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, Dio Dangbo played sixty four percent.

890
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: That's because he was healthy all year. Quidy pay was

891
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: at fifty eight percent, layout to Latu is at fifty

892
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: three percent, Taekwon Lewis is at thirty one percent. Now,

893
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: injuries again factor into that. Taikwon some time last year.

894
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: But the Colts haven't had like five guys that they

895
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: can rotate in there, because in twenty three you didn't

896
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: have Layatu Latu on the roster yet, and in twenty

897
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: four you expected it to be five and then Ebacom

898
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: got hurt. So if you go into the season with

899
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: those five guys all healthy, what does that rotation look like,

900
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: and how how does that maybe lead to more targeted

901
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: snaps for certain guys, different things you can do on

902
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: the defensive line. That could be a really good problem

903
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: for the Colts to have. Now, they all got to

904
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: perform to get there. But I think based on you know,

905
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: where you drafted these guys, what you've invested in them,

906
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: I think you would expect probably that to be a

907
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: really good five deep rotation there.

908
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: And looking to the way that you're going to have

909
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: to start the season and some of the offenses that

910
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: you're going to face, you want that group to be

911
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: able to play at a very high level early.

912
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: On, well especially early in the season. You also want

913
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: to have a lot of depth when guys are still

914
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: kind of getting into real you know, got notes good,

915
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: That's what That's what we should have here. We should

916
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: have a lengthy, meaty training camp episode. All right, let's

917
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: quickly talk about the rookies, yeah, and what to expect.

918
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: So we already kind of talked about j T, Twoey

919
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: Moloow a little bit. We talked about Justin Wally a

920
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: little bit, we talked about DJ Giddons a little bit.

921
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: So let's just kind of rip through the other guys here,

922
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: we're just going to talk about the drafted rookies. Wait

923
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: a minute, No, I missed a competition kicker, because I

924
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: was like, rookies, hold on a seconds, an undrafted rookie,

925
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: you could compete. I did miss the kicker competition. We're

926
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: not done with the competitions. Spencer Schrader and Maddox Trujillo. Yeah,

927
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: it's a kicker competition. It is Spencer Schrader. They brought

928
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: him back. He doesn't have a ton of experience in

929
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: the NFL. The Colts do. Like what he did last

930
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: year coming from the Colts where he hit a couple

931
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: of Pats in Week one, then to the Jets, then

932
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs, he managed a lot of that whole

933
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: whirlwind really well. I had a chance to talk with

934
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: Spencer last week on the podcast. If you haven't checked

935
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: that out, go check it out. To a fascinating individual.

936
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: But Maddix Trheo, you know that they brought him in

937
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: to provide some competition there.

938
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: This is what we've seen the Colts do in recent

939
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: seasons too, is kind of bring in some times. I mean,

940
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: Spencer Schrader was here competing, you know, so to speak

941
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: with Matt g I.

942
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: Think that will make me a little bit different because well,

943
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: he wasn't maybe competing.

944
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that, but like they have, right Chase mcloffin,

945
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: like they have, that's a better They have tended to

946
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: kind of carry two kickers through training camp just to

947
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: have a little.

948
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: Bit of more head to head than in years past.

949
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 2: I do still think that Strader has the upper hand

950
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: or upper leg, so to speak, death things. Just given

951
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: what you've seen so far, there's a reason that you

952
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 2: kept bringing this guy back. I mean, if you jj,

953
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: if you dive into the transaction chart on how many

954
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: times he was released and brought back and you know,

955
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: practice squad and then elevated and all of those different things, Like,

956
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: there's a reason this guy keeps coming back around. And

957
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 2: there you see something in him that you're like, not

958
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: only do we want him, but we don't want to

959
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: risk somebody else getting him.

960
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: I have two fun facts about Maddox trihio oh number

961
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: one named after Greg Maddox amazing uh and number two.

962
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: He is the record holder for the longest field goal

963
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: hit at Lincoln Financial Field in that stadium's history. He

964
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: had a sixty four yarder there. He kicked for Temple,

965
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: which plays their home games at the Link. He had

966
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: sixty four yarder there last year.

967
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: And no professional kicker has hit a Jake.

968
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: Elliott, not David Acres. You want to remember some more

969
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: Eagles kickers? I mean those are the two I got.

970
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very interesting.

971
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there you go. Wow, I told you I

972
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: had two fun facts about him. Oh yeah you did,

973
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: And those are fun facts in my mind.

974
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: Those are fun facts.

975
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, get to mention Greg Maddox and David Acres. Let's

976
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: do it, all right?

977
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: Uh, I should have come with more fun facts in

978
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: my arsenal, I guess for this.

979
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: This is all right. Let's let's talk about the rookies.

980
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: Rookies Tyler Warren. I don't mean to say like I

981
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: don't care what he does as a pass catcher, because

982
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: I do, and he still got to earn his reps

983
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: and his routes and his targets. But like, I just

984
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: want to see the full pad days what he does

985
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: as a run blocker, Like does he bring that saint,

986
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: that physical mean streak that we saw on tape at

987
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: Penn State? Does that translate to blocking down on a

988
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: defensive end? Does that translate to getting out, you know,

989
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: and holding the point of attack against DeForest Buckner on

990
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: a play when he needs to. Like, that's gonna be

991
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: really interesting, That's what That's what I'm excited about watching

992
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: with him.

993
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: Okay, since you're referencing run blocking tight ends, let's go

994
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: back to of recent memory, the best that the Colts

995
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: have had of late, which is Jack Doyle. Correct, you

996
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: had a chance to sit down with Jack? What stood

997
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: out from that film breakdown which you can go and

998
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: watch on Colts dot com on YouTube. It is phenomenal.

999
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: Jack's just I was telling someone the other day that

1000
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: I feel like Jack is probably one of the more

1001
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: even keel individuals you were ever.

1002
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was getting excited.

1003
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was downright giddy. Right, Like, what did you

1004
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: learn from Jack about what stood out to him with

1005
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren in those situations?

1006
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: It's the ability to go make a play for your

1007
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: team in the biggest moments, and you know, it's the

1008
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: what one of my favorite things is the trick play

1009
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: that's in there where it's this like funky alignment and

1010
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren snaps the ball and he catches a touchdown

1011
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: on the play. But it's a trick play that doesn't work,

1012
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: and Drew Aller just kind of throws the ball up,

1013
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, all right, forty four, go make a play.

1014
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: And he goes and he makes a play. He's also

1015
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: getting interfered with. He still makes a catch in the

1016
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: end zone. And that's what like got Jack really excited,

1017
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: was the like because I asked him, like, it's like

1018
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: the physicality, right, It's like, how translatable is this when

1019
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: it's a trick play? You can't run these all the

1020
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: time in the NFL, And Jack was like, no, no, no,

1021
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: Like this this is a guy going to making a

1022
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: play for his team, Like that's always translatable. But really,

1023
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's the learning curve for type in the

1024
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: NFL is difficult. I think. You know, brock Bowers probably

1025
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: scrambled some of the expectations last year with the records

1026
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: that he set, but like those records were set by

1027
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: like Mike Ditka in the sixties, So like, I think

1028
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: expecting Tyler Warren to have a brock Bauers type season

1029
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: is unfair. But what sort of reps does he earn

1030
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: in an offense that I think is probably going to

1031
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: be eleven personnel heavy with Michael Pittman, Josh Downs Alec

1032
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: Pierce as your primary three receivers. If you have two

1033
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: tight ends on the field, you're taking one of those

1034
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: guys off, which the Colts will do. But like, I

1035
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: don't think the Colts are going to primarily be a

1036
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: twelve personnel team. So can Tyler Warren earn those snaps

1037
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: as the number one tight end? And to do that

1038
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: you got to be able to run block because the

1039
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: Colts are going to have to run the ball out

1040
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: of eleven personnel. So can he be a functionally acceptable blocker?

1041
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: Like Ryan Kelly talked about it, of like just die

1042
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 1: as slow death as a tight end where you don't

1043
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: we don't expect it to look great, but like die

1044
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: an honorable death and just keep the whoever you're blocking

1045
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: away from the running back long enough for him to

1046
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: get through the crease. Can he get there? And that's

1047
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: what I really want to watch from him? Of course

1048
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: I want to watch him catch the ball, yeah, But

1049
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: like what's going to inform me on maybe how quickly

1050
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: he can get on the field in a significant way

1051
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: is going to be the run block.

1052
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: And to me, Tyler Warren one feeds off the other

1053
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: like his ability to do one directly translate to his

1054
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: effective best doing the other.

1055
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, look, the cultu are going to

1056
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: use me in some funky ways. I'm guessing. Oh, but

1057
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: he will also have to earn the ability to do that.

1058
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: So fascinated to see how it goes during training camp.

1059
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: But like everything we've learned about this guy is that

1060
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: I think it's probably gonna go just fine.

1061
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right.

1062
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: We talked about j T, Twoey Moloow, we talked about

1063
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: Justin Wally. Let's talk about Jaalen Travis really quickly. Here,

1064
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: I think is a really neat opportunity because you know,

1065
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: over the last five seasons, Braden Smith has missed at

1066
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: least one game. Over the last three seasons, Bernard Ryman

1067
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: has missed at least one game. So the cult this

1068
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: happens every year. There's going to be attrition. The Colts

1069
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: are going to need a swing tackle. In years past

1070
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: that has been Blake Freeland last year as Macnzalvez. Now

1071
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: he's kicking into guard. Is that going to be Jalen Travis?

1072
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: Is that going to be Blake Freeland? Is it going

1073
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: to be someone else on the roster? But there's an

1074
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: opportunity there for Jalen Travis to compete his way into

1075
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: a really important role as a rookie.

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00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no question. I mean there's a reason you

1077
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: kind of took him where you did, and you saw

1078
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: you saw the upside that he brings. I mean, and

1079
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: you go back to I believe it was the Senior

1080
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: Bowl type and where he was just dominating people in

1081
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 2: those type of situations, and scouts prioritize the Senior Bowl

1082
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: because it's just a lot of like really good on

1083
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 2: really good type of level of competition, especially in those practices,

1084
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: and just like the pure stature of Jalen Travis, like

1085
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: huge guy, huge guy, the athleticism incredible. Yeah, I want

1086
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: to I want to see him get an opportunity just

1087
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: because not that I want to see injuries to anyone else,

1088
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: but I'm just really excited to see how quickly he

1089
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: is able to adapt to the speed of the NFL

1090
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 2: and this offense and playing within this rotation. The good

1091
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: thing is the guys who are surrounding you are going

1092
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: to help elevate your game really quickly. And I think

1093
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: that that's why we have seen rookies on this offensive

1094
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: line come in and be as productive as they have

1095
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: so far. It's because of the guys who have been

1096
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: surrounding them. Guys like Quentin Nelson and you know, Bernard

1097
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: Ryman and Braden Smith help elevate those guys where we've

1098
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 2: seen some situations where guys haven't really looked like rookies

1099
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: maybe as much as they should have in certain situations

1100
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: when they have been thrust into those roles.

1101
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: All Right, we already talked about DJ Giddens. We did

1102
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: already also talk about Riley Leonard tim Smith, defensive tackle

1103
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: from Alabama. I think he could push, you know, to

1104
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: be kind of the fourth guy on the rotation at

1105
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: D tackle, A guy who everything I've heard is that,

1106
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: like Luenna Ruma really likes this guy.

1107
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: He's incredible. I actually talked to a few of his

1108
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: position group coaches or a few coaches excuse me, on

1109
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: the staff at Alabama just about the type of person,

1110
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: the type of guy, the type of player who he

1111
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: was for their program, and the type of impact him

1112
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: mat I'm gonna come back to him a little bit

1113
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 2: later too.

1114
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, spicy Alan Tea and then the last cold

1115
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: straft pick Hunter Woller. Yeah, special teams guy probably with

1116
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: upside as a dime lock linebacker, maybe sort of that

1117
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: hybrid guy who can play in some of the funky

1118
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: fronts and defenses that Lou and Arimo is gonna run.

1119
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: We'll kind of see where where that one goes. But

1120
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: probably a special like a good special teams contributor, right.

1121
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: Right exactly, And that's kind of what you have seen.

1122
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: You've had, you know, a guy kind of like this

1123
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: on the roster, you know, these last few years, and

1124
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: you'll certainly expect kind of him to be in that

1125
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: depth piece, especially from that special team.

1126
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: Sam, all right, let's call our shot here. Pick your

1127
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: training camp breakout star. Who do you got?

1128
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: I went rounds and rounds on this, Okay, and I

1129
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: initially went with Adie Mitchell. Okay, but we kind of

1130
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: already covered it. I'm gonna go a totally different route it.

1131
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm kind of cheating because I saw yours. I'm gonna

1132
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: go opposite of what you're saying, because I'm gonna say

1133
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: Quitty pay. I think this is a huge year for

1134
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: Quitty and I'm looking at what he has done, you know,

1135
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 2: the last few years, the amount of games that you

1136
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: know he's played, you the last two years, I mean

1137
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: he had you know, where the sacks have been his pressures.

1138
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be for me a

1139
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: year in which you see something a little bit different.

1140
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: Because yep. That also, I had a little bit of

1141
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: time with Quitty when the guys were here during mini camp,

1142
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: just chatting, and he's really intrigued for this defense and

1143
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: his fit and how it is going to play to

1144
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: in particular his skull set.

1145
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: That was good. That that was not low hanging fruit.

1146
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: Now you reached up in the branches on that one. I, however,

1147
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: I took the low hanging fruit. I took l Yeah,

1148
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: I mean that it's it's he's breakout start. The guy

1149
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: who was a first round draft pick last year. What

1150
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: a hot take that is?

1151
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: Well, mine was a guy who's a first round pick

1152
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: years ago. Yeah.

1153
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: I think at this point, like Quitdy Pays established himself

1154
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: as a good football player and if he takes that

1155
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: step to being a great football player, because.

1156
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: You have had and I'll get in this a little

1157
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: bit later, but you have had the drop off when

1158
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: you did not have Samson Ebicom in that rotation and

1159
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: you need someone to come up with that type of

1160
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: production for this team.

1161
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: That I that would. I mean, if if Colt's got

1162
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: that out of Quidy Pay, that'd be great. The thing,

1163
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: the thing I will say, I'm like, I will defend this,

1164
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: like I keep saying this all the time. If Quidy

1165
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: Pay stays the same player that he is, yeah, that

1166
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: is good. You need you need players like Quidy Pay

1167
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: on your team who are good football players, who are

1168
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: good against the run. They'll get you a couple of sacks.

1169
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: Like you need Quidy Pays on your team. You do.

1170
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: So just if he goes beyond that, that's awesome. If

1171
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: he stays right here, that's great too, that is awesome.

1172
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot too though, Like everything that I.

1173
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: Keep, he's kind of different than anyone else you have.

1174
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: He totally is in that position. I think year two

1175
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: because he's more of a technique guy and he wins

1176
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: with a really, you know, kind of vast toolbox that

1177
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: he has. I think the year of experience learning how

1178
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: to beat NFL tackles, now you can really go and

1179
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 1: apply all those reps you got. I think he's he's

1180
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: in for a big yeah, a big year, and I

1181
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: think you'll see that during training camp in a way

1182
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: that you know last year he was impressive during camp.

1183
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: Yep.

1184
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,959
Speaker 1: I think he'll be maybe even a little bit more

1185
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: so this year, especially when he gets into those padded practices.

1186
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: All right, let's do the mail bag, the Colt Show

1187
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: mail Bag. Remember submit your questions on colts dot com,

1188
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: slash mail bag, on social media, on the YouTube comments

1189
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: wherever you can. This one comes from friend of the podcast,

1190
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: Nick Merlina. We love Nick. On this podcast, Nick added

1191
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: a question about Bill Brooks. I am going to skip that, Nick,

1192
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 1: being one of Bill's best friends. All Right, Nick says,

1193
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm very intrigued about the positional battles in training camp

1194
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: and most excited to see how our offensive skill positions,

1195
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: positions shake out. Could you give me one position group

1196
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: to watch that people maybe aren't paying close enough attention

1197
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: to that will have major implications for the team's success

1198
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: this upcoming season.

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Speaker 2: Learra, what do you got defensive line?

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00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: Is that because it's just like it's a set it

1201
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: and forget a group like you know they're they're gonna

1202
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: be good or is it like you think they can

1203
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: go beyond what they've been in the last year.

1204
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: It is mainly because the depth in the middle of

1205
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: that defensive line has been a concern. Yes, at points

1206
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: when DeForest Buckner and Grover Stewart have not been in

1207
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: the game, you have had a significant drop off both

1208
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: in run and pass time.

1209
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: This is your Tim Smith tie in here. I love it. Yeah, Enter, let's.

1210
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: Go Tim Smith enter at a Tamawoa at of Barville

1211
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: Entered Neville Gallimore. That's another guy. I feel like we

1212
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: have not talked enough about him, and can.

1213
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: Talk about Nevill Gaalamar all the time. That guy rules.

1214
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: But just like I don't hear outside of this, I

1215
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: don't hear enough about it. I think that people have

1216
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: kind of underestimated what the Colts have quietly done to

1217
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: reinforce the center of your defensive line. Because of what

1218
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: you need to see. DeForest Buckner is one of the

1219
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: best at his position every single year. Grover Stewart one

1220
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: of the more unsung heroes at his position. Unbelievable what

1221
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: happens though, You've got to have rotation in the defensive line.

1222
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: This Colt's front office has invested any immense amount of

1223
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: capital through the draft, through free agent, through trades for

1224
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: DeForest Buckner in that group. To me, now it's time

1225
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: for the depth of that group to be proven. And

1226
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: that is where I think this is exactly like Tim Smith,

1227
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: I want to see another step from Attleton, Anabari and

1228
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: Neville Gallimore. Is I think going to be a big

1229
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: contributor behind those guys that you have upfront.

1230
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: All right, in the interest of being thorough, I'm going

1231
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: to talk about the one position we haven't talked about yet.

1232
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: But in my defense, I had this in here before

1233
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: I even did the rest of the run.

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00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: Yes, one little quick fact so you have your fun facts.

1235
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: Mind's not nearly got querky, but okay, So twenty twenty

1236
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: four is the NFL Colts thirty six sacks. The year

1237
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: prior was fifty one. Yeah, So I mean you kind of.

1238
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: Saw that the pressure rate was exactly where it needed to.

1239
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: Be exactly and I think.

1240
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: A lot of blitzing more will probably help that line

1241
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: too well.

1242
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: And I mean, here's my other thing with you know,

1243
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: kind of to your Latu point, to the quitty pay point,

1244
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: is you've seen what you can do with a weapon

1245
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: like a Trey Hendrickson. I think that no, you know,

1246
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: a few players are a Trey Hendrickson, but when you

1247
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: just kind of look at semblances of a lou defense

1248
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: and what he does with you know, big threats on

1249
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: the edge. It's intriguing. So in the interest of you

1250
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: were saying.

1251
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,479
Speaker 1: Okay, so uh, the way the rundown worked, I put

1252
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: the mail bag question in first, and then I filled

1253
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: everything else out after that. But when I put this

1254
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: in here, the one position group that people aren't paying

1255
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: close enough attention to, that'll major implications. I put safeties down.

1256
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: We have not mentioned cam Binam or Nick Cross on

1257
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: this podcast yet. It's a pretty simple answer. When you

1258
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: look at lou Anarumo's best defenses in Cincinnati, it was

1259
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: when he had Jesse Bates and Von bellback there, two

1260
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: very good veterans, not maybe like Pro Bowl level guys,

1261
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: but like really good veterans in the back end. I

1262
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: think the Colts have that in cam Binam and Nick Cross.

1263
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays out. But like cam Byam

1264
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: being the perfect fit for lou Anarumo and what's what

1265
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: he wants to do, and then you've got Nick Cross

1266
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: who to contract your guy? This is a big year

1267
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: for Nick Cross because he's he now has established himself

1268
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: as a good NFL starter. Can he do it again?

1269
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: In Low's defense and If he does, there's a quite

1270
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: a bit of money waiting at the end of the

1271
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: line for him. So I think those two guys in

1272
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: the back end, if this defense is going to reach

1273
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: its potential. To me, it almost starts there because and look,

1274
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: Blue is a he's a secondary coach by trade. Yeah,

1275
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: that's where the defense starts for him. He's kind of

1276
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: more top down, and I think it for him, it

1277
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: starts with those two safeties. Can he get the play

1278
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: that he needs out of buying them and Cross? And

1279
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: if he does, I think the rest of this defense

1280
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: really starts to come together.

1281
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: I love that, And I love that you have already

1282
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: seen nit Cross develop Overcrumb early struggles. You want to

1283
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 2: talk about that, Yeah, how can he further develop now?

1284
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: Is?

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Speaker 2: I think that he has addressed some things, you know,

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Speaker 2: within his game and different things you know to prepare

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Speaker 2: him and put him in such a great position as

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Speaker 2: we saw last year. Now, what does that look like?

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that he has proven his development

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Speaker 2: in the league. That can be one of the more

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Speaker 2: difficult things to do and to show.

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Speaker 1: To come back from getting bench two games into your

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Speaker 1: rookie year and to establish yourself as like a good

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Speaker 1: starter in the NFL like he did last year. That's

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Speaker 1: you're right, that's really hard to do.

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Speaker 2: And so now I think that what's that next step

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Speaker 2: in the development he's proven, how can develop in over

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Speaker 2: those first what three years? Okay? Now in this this

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Speaker 2: new in a new defense, what does that further development

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Speaker 2: look like? Because I think Low's system is even better

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Speaker 2: suited I think to the athleticism of a guy like

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Speaker 2: neck Cross than what we have maybe previously seen.

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Speaker 1: I think we had everything, got anything else left? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what what else could we possibly long snapper?

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Speaker 2: I meant.

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Speaker 1: He's back long snapper, Rigo Sanchez, back punter, kick returner.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. Maybe there's a competition there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Does not do anything for you?

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Speaker 2: Uh? What I can?

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Speaker 1: What's so special? I feel bad the.

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Speaker 2: Rules with the new kickoff. We've changed it.

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Speaker 1: Again to Brian Mason because he's the way he talks

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Speaker 1: about special teams. I learned something new every time I

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Speaker 1: talked to him. But like special teams, periods are my

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Speaker 1: break to like rest my back because my back hurts

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Speaker 1: so bad just from standing, which is probably not a

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Speaker 1: good thing. That like special teams periods are where I

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Speaker 1: take a knee or I'll go sit out with Rick Venturrey.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's a period where I struggle

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Speaker 1: to tell what's really going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean to be honest, you also don't

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Speaker 2: want to show too much during those periods either, Like

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Speaker 2: you are also not revealing your entire playbook in those systems,

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Speaker 2: in those you know, those.

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Speaker 1: Periods are important and you can learn something from looking

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Speaker 1: at the personnel that's on the field. But that's when

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Speaker 1: I need.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be charting though. We're gonna be charting those

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Speaker 2: those field goals.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be charting those sackles. Yeah, yeah, God, thank

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Speaker 1: god it's not Thank god it's not twenty nineteen. Again,

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Speaker 1: if anyone knows what I'm talking about and where I

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Speaker 1: was in twenty nineteen, re a kicker competition.

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Speaker 2: Thanksough said, enough said, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, enough said on that one. All Right, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: end this podcast here. Thank you for watching and listening

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Speaker 1: to this episode of The Cold Show. She's Lara Overton,

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Speaker 1: I'm JJ Stankomitz. I'll talk to you next week from

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