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Speaker 1: Ronanian's not for lack of trying. It's not for lack

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Speaker 1: it's this or it's that this is more likely The

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: I live in the real world where men sell propane

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Speaker 2: and propane accessories.

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Speaker 1: Now, when I open up your propane, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: open it up slow, realizing that of something backfires, I've

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Speaker 1: got a hammernad of my in. Okay, the Dangers of

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Speaker 3: Brother. Welcome to the radio home of Ronanania, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 3: the phone and call in.

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Speaker 1: The garage doors are opening, but I am here to

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Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five five six ninety

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Speaker 1: nine hundred and now pee running once again, the innubitable

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Speaker 1: off an imitator, never duplicated one and only no bolgonea

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Speaker 1: not a phony. Tom Ray gets me in the open

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Speaker 1: with we sell pro paint accessories. Well, it is because

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Speaker 1: pro pain is dangerous when you use. But you know

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Speaker 1: it's only Tom could come up with that and open

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Speaker 1: from Research Kathy. We haven't heard from Research Kafe in

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Speaker 1: a while. We're not sure what she's been doing. She's

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Speaker 1: me here. You know, it's amazing the things that people

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Speaker 1: actually write stories about. Is it okay to wait until

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Speaker 1: you can do anything you want. You can get stuck

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Speaker 1: just normal service. Thirty nine miles to empty, twelve miles

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Speaker 1: tank on a consistent basis, it's not great for that,

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Speaker 1: it's not great for the fuel pump. Because I'm only

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Speaker 1: gonna say this, well, I'll say it once and then

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Speaker 1: I'll say it. I won't say it again until I

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Speaker 1: need to. But an electric fuel pump is cooled by gasoline.

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Speaker 1: It is cooled by liquid. It is the liquid around

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Speaker 1: So you know what, get gas? Start looking at a

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Speaker 1: on here, Robin. Welcome to the car doctor. How can

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Speaker 4: Hi? Ron? Thanks sir? Yeah, my sixteen Fiesta is deciding

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Speaker 4: Battery, dead battery.

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Speaker 4: My mechanic and NAPA both say the batteries all right,

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Speaker 1: Do you have a toileting? Go ahead? You suspect what

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Speaker 1: Well, for whatever reason, that's where the engineers decided to

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Speaker 1: all right, because it's I've only got another hour yet today,

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Speaker 1: so you know we've got an electrical drain, right, what's

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Speaker 1: an electrical drain. How can you have an electrical drain

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Speaker 1: toilets do you have in the house? How many toilets, toilets, toilets, bathrooms? One?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you ever notice? You ever notice over the course

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Speaker 1: you jiggle the handle, and all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 1: kind of like that, that running toilet. You don't hear it,

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Speaker 1: You know, you can do this a variety of ways.

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Speaker 1: They do things now with voltage drop testing across fuses too,

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Speaker 1: let me ask, let me answer the question this way. No,

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Speaker 1: no disparaging comment towards towards you, Robin. But do you

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Speaker 1: understand the difference between voltage and ambridge? Anybody ever explained

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Speaker 4: It was an electronic technician in the Navy for six years,

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Speaker 1: So you know right, I got it, vult Yeah, voltages voltages.

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Speaker 1: Voltage voltage is pressure and current ambriages is volume. Right,

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Speaker 1: And so for everyone else's benefit, that's what we're chasing here.

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Speaker 1: So let's put a millionam meter across the negative post

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Speaker 1: of the battery and the terminal. What sort of milliam

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Speaker 1: it is, all right. No cell phone chargers plugged in,

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Speaker 1: nothing in any charging port, everything normal, all right. Just

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Speaker 1: the cable. What do you have? It has to drop

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Speaker 1: this is a modern day Ford. It can take upwards

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Speaker 1: of seventy five minutes, all right, probably closer to the

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Speaker 1: forty five to fifty minute mark, but I have seen

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Speaker 1: them on regular occasions go to seventy five, almost eighty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes a while for all those modules to

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Speaker 1: fall asleep. Once we prove, once we prove it has

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Speaker 1: in at forty five million ams, I'm going to tell

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Speaker 1: you there's a draw, even though the magic number is fifty.

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Speaker 1: All right. Typically we see a modern vehicle fall into

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Speaker 1: the twenty to twenty five milliamp range. That's good, all right.

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Speaker 1: If we see over fifty milliams. This has a draw

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Speaker 1: if it goes. If it goes fifty milliamps in an hour,

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Speaker 1: and you want to try this, it's going to cost

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Speaker 1: you the price of a nine volt battery. Put the

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Speaker 1: meter on minmax record. It won't go to sleep at

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Speaker 1: that point, and you can leave that meter on overnight

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Speaker 1: and then come back and see the next day. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it really does have a milliam draw of twenty five milliams. Great,

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Speaker 1: it's really It's not this, it's something else. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I've also had cases where what I'm what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: looking at everything else, I'll leave it in record mode

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Speaker 1: and I'll come back after eight hours and in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the night it spikes up for some reason

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Speaker 1: and I have to attack that slightly differently. All right,

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Speaker 1: but the first thing you want to the first thing

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Speaker 1: you want to do is a milliam draw test. All right,

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Speaker 1: what do you have? And then we can kind of

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Speaker 1: go from there. Once you prove that it does have

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Speaker 1: a draw, you hook this up and it's it's got

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Speaker 1: a got an eighty millim draw. Then you're going to

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Speaker 1: go through fuse by fuse one by one. All right,

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Speaker 1: pull one fuse out, draw goes away. No, okay, put

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 1: One last thing to set the vehicle up. Flip the

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Speaker 1: door jam. Do you know what I mean when I

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Speaker 1: say that when you when you open the driver's door,

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Speaker 1: you can leave the door open. You get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yep, right, yep, Because.

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Speaker 1: Because the first impulse is oh gee, I've got to draw,

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Speaker 1: it's inside the vehicle. Let me check. As soon as

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Speaker 1: jam switch internal to the door, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the draw is gonna go up again because the dome

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Speaker 1: light's gonna come on.

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you have right and the park right, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna you have an electrical drain on this vehicle.

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Speaker 1: It'd be my guess. Okay, the other way you could

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Speaker 4: And I've done that too, Yeah, because how many times

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right now? Just make sure you're make sure when they

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Speaker 6: Don't go away.

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Speaker 5: What's more fun than listening to Ron and any in

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Speaker 1: back to America's Live Car Show, where we're taking these

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Speaker 1: Richard in Michigan. What the heck, Let's try this spin

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Speaker 1: the wheel. Go to Michigan. Richard. Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir,

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Speaker 1: How can I help?

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Speaker 4: Thanks?

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Speaker 2: Roncome taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 5: I have a twenty three teen Chevrolet Avalanche for five

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Speaker 5: point three four wheel drive, has sixty one thousand miles

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Speaker 5: on it, and about every two or three four months,

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Speaker 5: I get a check engine light comes on and I

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Speaker 5: have one of those little diagnostics you plug in zero

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Speaker 5: P zero.

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Speaker 1: Five twenty one exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And I have a mechanic that I deal with, and

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Speaker 5: he suspected we had a bad sending unit, so he

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Speaker 5: replaced that and it still happened. I've never seen the

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Speaker 5: oil pressure below twenty. What I did do, and that's

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Speaker 5: what I want to ask you, is this could this

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Speaker 5: cause a problem. I changed from five W thirty to

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Speaker 5: ten W thirty oil and I haven't seen it since.

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Speaker 2: I did that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know the answer is of its working. Yes,

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Speaker 1: But you know, have you considered this is where I'm

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Speaker 1: going to surprise you. Have you considered the oil pressure sensor.

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Speaker 5: Filter when they replaced the sensor, they did pull the filter.

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Speaker 1: Okay? Was it dirty?

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Speaker 2: That's under that.

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Speaker 5: I can't tell you.

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Speaker 2: All I know is he replaced it when he pulled

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he did, he did, He did see the okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: twelve fifty eight fifty three twenty eight is the filter

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Speaker 1: part number. They were, they were common, they got restricted,

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Speaker 1: all right. So if we were to look at and forget,

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Speaker 5: I've never seen it below twenty? And you know this

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Speaker 5: thing when it happens, could it be just a spontaneous

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Speaker 5: look down and I have a check engine light.

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Speaker 1: This is an act of fuel management vehicle, right, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's see, that's that's where the concern comes for

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Speaker 1: moving the valve train around. It's got to be spot

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Speaker 1: if it were me, I'd want to know what mechanical

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Speaker 1: the electric gauge off the engine, all right. I don't

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Speaker 1: a buffered signal. It goes, It goes from the sensor

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Speaker 1: BCM over the instrument cluster. You know. It's it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like telling your wife to tell your kids to

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Speaker 1: tell the dog to go outside and pay all right,

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Speaker 1: the message gets delayed seven times.

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Speaker 5: So are you suggesting putting in a mechanical oil pressure gauge.

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Speaker 1: Well to test this? Yeah, I would want to see

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason it's working all right, how many miles

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Speaker 5: Sixty one?

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Speaker 1: Right, not to burst your bubble, but by the time

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Speaker 5: Anyway, So I heard there was some issue with these

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Speaker 1: Yep, there's you know, there's lots of issues with the

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Speaker 1: So I just I just want to be sure it's

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Speaker 5: GM okay, we go back to five thirty, right, go back.

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Speaker 1: To five thirty. Do a mechanical test. You know, you

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Speaker 1: I agree, at least at least you'll know so, and I.

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Speaker 5: Would when this vehicle came out it was using I

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Speaker 1: And the reason, the reason you know, everything it's important

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Speaker 1: hydraulic properties, it's moving the valve train, it's doing so

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Speaker 1: many other things. But I would put the filter back in.

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Speaker 1: I would get another twelve fifty eight, fifty three twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: I would put the filter back in. The oil pressure sensor,

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Speaker 1: I would get a mechanical gauge. I would change the viscosity,

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Speaker 1: if ten thirty does it, and that's what keeps it going,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. I can't see it hurting anything more than

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Speaker 1: you might have already. So call me when you know more,

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Speaker 1: call me if you need more. I'm on a NDI

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Speaker 1: in the car doctor. I'm back right after this. Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. We'renning the car doctor. Let's go over and

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Speaker 1: talk to Keith in Indiana. Is that Indiana? Indianapolis? In

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Speaker 1: somewhere Indianapolis? How are you, Keith? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Good, Yeah, I gotta. I'll give you an update on

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Speaker 7: something when we're done, if you don't mind, but sure,

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Speaker 7: I noine Toyota Ciena and it's got the TPMs system.

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Speaker 7: Back in twenty nineteen, I had my local fire shop

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Speaker 7: replace the sensors as they died. Right come to twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty four, they you know, they're dead again, which is normal.

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Speaker 7: They have tried two different sensors three different times. And

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Speaker 7: then I also had a local, my local mechanic try

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Speaker 7: a trader brand of sensor. So four different attempts and

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Speaker 7: even though the diagnostic equipment shows that everything should work,

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Speaker 7: it's not working. I've been told I'll need to go

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Speaker 7: to Toyota and get the OEM TPMs sensors for a

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Speaker 7: price tag is seven hundred dollars, which I'm not going

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Speaker 7: to pay seven hundred bucks to make a little pressure

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Speaker 7: like go out. I mean, I heard I heard you

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Speaker 7: mention this maybe a few weeks ago. Have you experienced this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So my question is, or my comments would be,

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Speaker 1: you know when you're saying they've done this. I don't

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Speaker 1: care what brand they're using, all right, you know Brand X.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go that when they're using Brand

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Speaker 1: X and and the tire pressure sensors, the serial numbers

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Speaker 1: are twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, whatever the whatever the numbers are.

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Speaker 1: If if twelve is the left front, right is the

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Speaker 1: I believe is where TPMs is stored on that vehicle,

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Speaker 1: does it see the correct serial numbers?

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Speaker 7: They claim that it does. But I was told today

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Speaker 7: say there's some sort of computer block that only Toyota's

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Speaker 7: computers can clear to allow the light to go out

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Speaker 7: and it's function correctly.

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Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's I think that's Bologna

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Speaker 1: at a dollar fifty nine pounds.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Where I where I would be is I would

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Speaker 1: let me tell you my story. We had we had

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Speaker 1: an older Toyota, all right. And by the way, there

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Speaker 1: it's from Toyota TSBO one oh four dash eight and

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Speaker 1: it lays out the sequence by how you have to

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Speaker 1: early cars from Toyota seven eight nine with TPMs were

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Speaker 1: and there were some very specific procedures between dashboard lights

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Speaker 1: if they're putting a brand DEX sensor in it and

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Speaker 1: they can't get it to register, the next step is

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Speaker 1: what we did was we called the brand's tech support

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Speaker 1: and we found out what was different, and sure enough,

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Speaker 1: there had been a software update to that particular Toyota

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Speaker 1: as soon as we did that, we solved the problem.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't believe that you've got to

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Speaker 7: You know, maybe that's what they're saying. It needs to

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Speaker 7: go to Toyota or is a software update.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they can't, right, Maybe the shops don't have the

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Speaker 1: And again, if the vehicles TPMs computer I'll call it,

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Speaker 1: that is reading serial numbers twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. If

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Speaker 1: it's reading them, all right, it should okay, it should work. Now,

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Speaker 1: stupid question, and there are no stupid questions. We've always

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Speaker 1: established that on this show thirty years ago. All right,

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Speaker 1: are they considering is this a five tire system? Is

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Speaker 7: Oh no, it's not. The spare does not have a sense.

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Speaker 7: The spare does not have a understanding, actually states that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because a lot of the toyotas are five

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Speaker 7: They today they claimed it sees all four that they

435
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 7: just can't get. The light will blink for sixty seconds

436
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 7: and it just stays on, which the owners manils to

437
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 7: indicate the communication problem. Okay, but yet they say that

438
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 7: they're showing that the computer is seeing all four sensors.

439
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 7: So it's like, right, that.

440
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: Doesn't that doesn't make any sense if the computer's seeing

441
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: all four sensors again, you know, and and and here,

442
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: maybe they need to do this all right, if they're

443
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: if there what we'll call is universal aftermarket sensors. Here's

444
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: a trick that we learned. Also, you've got a Toyota

445
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: and we're using we're for full disclosure, we're using X

446
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: is it X thirty one or thirty one ning sensors

447
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: in the shop, right, great company. They're out of Ohio,

448
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: or actually I think they're out of Indiana, Indiana, Ohio,

449
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: all right, somewhere out by you. And I learned this

450
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: trick from their tech guys. We had a Toyota. We

451
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: had a problem. We couldn't get it to register. Not

452
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: the one from a couple of weeks ago. This was

453
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: a different one. We win, we can wirelessly program the sensors.

454
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: We went in and we programmed the sensors. We programmed

455
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: the sensors by into being a Ford. So we told

456
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: the Toyota sensors, hey, we're programming a Ford. We programmed

457
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: it for a fort We programmed the wrong sensors to

458
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: the vehicle, took the vehicle around the block, brought it

459
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: back now, told that we're programming it for whatever your

460
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: make model, Toyota.

461
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:25,719
Speaker 4: It was.

462
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: We forced the system to look at itself and we

463
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: got the lights to go out, and we were able

464
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: to reset the system and it worked. So you know,

465
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: there's always that possibility too, all right, that maybe it's

466
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: in their programming procedure. But no, sir, I don't believe

467
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: that there's a situation here where you've got to go

468
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: to Toyota to get their sensors. I think the aftermarket

469
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: stuff will work. I think it's being programmed incorrectly. And

470
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Speaker 1: I would talk to the manufacturer of the sensor. They

471
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: would be very interested to hear this, because those guys

472
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: get upset when somebody says, hey, your stuff doesn't work,

473
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: because they sell a lot of sensors. Brother, right, it's

474
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 1: a big part of their business.

475
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: All right, I'm looking at it.

476
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 7: I'll look into that TSC too, you talked about. Yeah,

477
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 7: I want to get a quick update if you got

478
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 7: a chance, real quick.

479
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

480
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 7: I called you a while back about the cam phasers

481
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 7: and this engine. There's a TSD out on those two. Right,

482
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 7: Toyota wanted six thousand dollars to do the job, and

483
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 7: it didn't have one hundred thousand miles on it, right,

484
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 7: But because I could show receipts for all of my

485
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 7: Toyota brand oil filters I bought, because I do my

486
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 7: own oil changes, we come to negotiation of about thirty

487
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 7: six hundred dollars. They had to drop the whole engine,

488
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 7: owt the vehicle, replace all four cam phasers and one

489
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 7: of the overhead camshafts.

490
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: Well, listen, at least you got something, right, Yeah.

491
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that was the resolution. And you know, thirty

492
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 7: six hundreds a lot cheaper than forty grand for a

493
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 7: new one.

494
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: Well right, forty probably fifty yeah, probably on the chief. Yeah,

495
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: so yep, I get it. You know it's listen. You know,

496
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: nothing against Toyota, good vehicles, but nothing is bulletproof anymore.

497
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: Everything has its issues. So I gotta run my Keith.

498
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I got to run, Keith. Good to hear

499
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: from you and let us know how you make out

500
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: with the TPMs. I'm running any in the card doctor.

501
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: We're back right after this, Welcome back. I'm running any

502
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: of the card doctor. Let's go over to Mark in Wisconsin. Mark,

503
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: you're on with the card doctor, Sir, how can I help?

504
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: Hi? Thanks Ron, longtime listener, first time calling.

505
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 1: Thank you.

506
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: I've got a twenty thirteen Port fifty with Eco Boost

507
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: engine and it's been a good runner for me. It's

508
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: running good now, which is why I still have it.

509
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: But you know, last year I took a road trip

510
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: and had a little problem. And now I'm thinking that,

511
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: since it's eleven years old, I think I'd rather do

512
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 2: some preventative maintenance so that the next time it break down,

513
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: it breaks down. I'm not a thousand miles from home.

514
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: So what would you recommend in the way of, you know,

515
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: preventative things like bell toses, food exchanges, things like that

516
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: before I take it out in the road again.

517
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: Yes, you know. And how many miles are on it?

518
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 6: Mark?

519
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: Mark? How many miles are on this now? Mark? Is

520
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: Mark there? Mark? Are you there? We're losing them? Mark? Hello?

521
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: All right, so we lost Mark. But let me answer.

522
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: Let me answer the question. You know what we're talking about.

523
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: We're talking about preventive maintenance on an older vehicle, something

524
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: that's eleven years old, and you know, we want to

525
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: stop and consider you know, agent mileage. If it's wet,

526
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: change it fluids. Yeah, all of them, drive line fluids.

527
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: If this was a gas engine, and I'm always worried

528
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: about fuel systems on older, higher mileage vehicles, all right,

529
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: this is a diesel is a little bit of a

530
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: different animal, all right. You know you've got to make

531
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: sure you're buying your diesel from good, reliable sources. I

532
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: like to I'm a truck stop diesel guy in the

533
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: fuel instance is where I'm running a diesel for some reason,

534
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to, you know, do a truck stop diesel,

535
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: not gas station diesel. I think the truck stops do

536
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: a better job. Just my opinion, just a belief system

537
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: I was brought up on. Proved me wrong. But you know,

538
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: if this was a gas engine, I'd be looking at

539
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: some fuel additives. I like tech run and a gasoline engine.

540
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a kin to putting techroun and a gasoline

541
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: engine on a longer trip and taking a couple of

542
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: bottles with me. It sort of stabilizes and helps the

543
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: fuel along the way. If there's something you're using for

544
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: your diesel to you know, maintain and help provide stability

545
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: to the fuel system. I would do that on a

546
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: long road trip. And yeah, belts and hoses, what sort

547
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: of you know, what sort of condition are they in? Again?

548
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: How many miles are on this and you know, just

549
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: if it's wet, change it. Take a look at the brakes,

550
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: take a look at the front suspension, and in doing

551
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: some of the smaller fluid maintenance, you're going to find

552
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: that the other maintenance gets done because you're going to

553
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: start to see things and it opens your eyes and

554
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: you're going to be very aware of what's going on

555
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: with the overall condition of the truck. So just just

556
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: just my thoughts. Sorry we lost you there, Mark, I'm

557
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: not sure what happened. Give us a call back if

558
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: you need more. Let's get over to Cedric and Iowa

559
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: O nine Chevy Silverado. Cedric, welcome to the card doctor. Sure,

560
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: how can I help?

561
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 8: Hey? Thank you our longtime listener, first time calling. Thank

562
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 8: you say, I really appreciate your knowledge. I have Hey

563
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 8: two thousand and nine Chevy Silverado full size fifteen and

564
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 8: I had to the rear end was replaced from when

565
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 8: I got it from a guy, but I can't get

566
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 8: any information from the mechanic. I taken it up to

567
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 8: the Chevy dealership to have the oil change because I

568
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 8: wasn't sure. And the gaming lists of things that were

569
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 8: an issue, and one of the things was the differential

570
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 8: cover rear seal rare differential is leaking. Now when I

571
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 8: shift out of neutral into or out of reverse in

572
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 8: the drive where we're out here, this clunking and this

573
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 8: this movement of a truck, is that a good thing?

574
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 8: Or am I running into an issue here? Well?

575
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: Did you hear the noise prior to the rear being replaced.

576
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 8: I didn't have the trunck before the rear was.

577
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: Repraised, So to you that that clunk in the drive

578
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: train has been a sound that's always been.

579
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: There, Yes, sir.

580
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: And when you asked the dealership, because obviously I can't

581
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: tell the size of the clunk from here, when you

582
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: ask the dealership or the mechanic about it, what did

583
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: they say? Did they say it was abnormal or it's

584
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: a normal condition.

585
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 8: Well, the mechanic that did to work, I can't get

586
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 8: any information out of them there being not nice for

587
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 8: some reason. And sort of Chevy dealership, I haven't approached

588
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 8: them with it yet because I just haven't too long.

589
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 8: Had to all change and then when he told me that,

590
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 8: I was wondering, so that got the clunk was a

591
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 8: normal thing.

592
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna get, you're gonna get, you're gonna get

593
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: a certain amount of a you know, a clunk or

594
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: a click. It's it just can't be bone jarring. What

595
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: you might be hearing is too much backlash in the gear,

596
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: too much space between the ring and the opinion. And

597
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: you're hearing that that that that slop, that play magnified. Listen.

598
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: More than more than anything, Cedric, can I tell you

599
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: what you need, But you need a mechanic, brother that

600
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: you can trust. You need to be able to go

601
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: to one guy, one cook and say, hey, look the

602
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: truck over, good, bad, or indifferent, Because if you've got

603
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: a mechanic that worked on the vehicle that doesn't want

604
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: to talk to you about it, then, in my opinion,

605
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: he's hiding something. Something's wrong there, all right, you know

606
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: it's it's so more important than anything, whether the relationship

607
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: is with your local Chevy dealer or the garage down

608
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: the corner. You need to find somebody to look the

609
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: truck over and give you an honest opinion. All right.

610
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 8: If the Chevy dealer the Chevy dealer is going to

611
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 8: be and I'm just gonna take it. Take my truck

612
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 8: here from now on because it's an excellent running truck,

613
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 8: right running? Oh yeah, absolutely, in a great condition.

614
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and you know, explain to them what your

615
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: concerns are. You know, dealerships aren't bad repair shops. Repair

616
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: shops aren't bad repair shops. It's the people in them

617
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: that define them, all right, And there's bad there's bad

618
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: guys in all kinds of buildings. I've found this out,

619
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, over the course of my life. So I

620
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: think everybody deserves a shot. I'd go in and I

621
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: talk to the dealer, whoever it is, and say, hey,

622
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: you're going to be my service writer. You know, this

623
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: is what I'm looking for. I understand it's not going

624
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: to be in an expensive proposition to take care of

625
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: a vehicle properly. I just want to know that it's

626
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: safe and reliable and that I can drive it without

627
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: any issues. And see how they react. You know, it's

628
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: it's it's still people inside the walls of a dealership,

629
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: even though nobody really stops to think about that. So

630
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: I give them a lot of credit. They have to

631
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: put up with a lot of abuse. It's how you

632
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: approach them and how you talk to them. So do that.

633
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: And if you have any more problems, any more questions, Cedric,

634
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: you know where to find me. Thanks for being a

635
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: long term member of the car doctor family. I'm ronning

636
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: any and the car Doctor. I'll be back right after this.

637
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 8: Wow.

638
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: Talk about a smoke an hour audo repair. Holy smokes,

639
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: But I beat the gauntlet right. Tom said I couldn't

640
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: answer all those questions in an hour, and I did. Yah,

641
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: So one more to go. Let's do a piece of email. Hey,

642
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: ron wife called me this week with no power steering.

643
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: I've got an older escape sort of like Tom's had

644
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: triple Well it's either like Tom's or it's not had

645
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: triple A toe to the house. Got into it expecting

646
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: a power steering pump failure. Found a separate V belt

647
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: that is only used for the power steering and sits

648
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: behind the main crank POLLEYO all of engineers. This comes

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Speaker 1: to us from Don not an easy replacement, even after

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Speaker 1: reading and watching, decided to change the main sert belt.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, all ready to go use my

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Speaker 1: handy AutoZone acquired tension or tool at a boy and

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Speaker 1: bang the dog gear that has the square opening to

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Speaker 1: insert the tool broke off. Now I have to replace

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Speaker 1: the tension or question? Do you routinely change the tension

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Speaker 1: or whatever? You change the belt? The belt has been

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Speaker 1: changed every eighty to ninety thousand miles, but never the tension.

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Speaker 1: It looks to be made a cast aluminum. What do

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Speaker 1: you recommend? Best regards? Don? Yeah, you know, so what Don?

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Speaker 1: Here's the issue. Serpentine belts last longer now, they gosh

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Speaker 1: a good Fifteen years ago they went to an EPDM.

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Speaker 1: It was a different type of rubber overall across belts.

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Speaker 1: If you notice that on newer vehicles we don't see

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Speaker 1: belts cracking. They tend to wear out. The rubber wears

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Speaker 1: out much the same way that a tire wears out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the tread gets shallower, the depth of the belt groove

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Speaker 1: gets shallower. That's why they give us groove depth finders

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Speaker 1: and teller measurement tools now for measuring belts to decide

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Speaker 1: if they're good or bad. But the rule of thumb

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Speaker 1: is one hundred, one hundred and ten thousand miles somewhere

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Speaker 1: in that range. Take a look at the belt that

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Speaker 1: probably needs to be replaced. And yes, we do change

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Speaker 1: tensioners and we do change idlers. It's one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons companies like Gates, when they sell you a belt,

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Speaker 1: they will offer you a gait a belt, tensioner and

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Speaker 1: idler pulley kit as well, and all package together with

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Speaker 1: the belt, because the fact is the belts are lasting longer,

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Speaker 1: the cars are lasting longer. Tensioners do wear out, and

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Speaker 1: you want to make sure that we're providing correct tension

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Speaker 1: to keep that belt running for another one hundred thousand miles.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the email, and as always, I appreciate each

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Speaker 1: and every one of you. Until the next time, I'm

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Speaker 1: ronning Andy and the car Doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you