1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,635 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Trump 2 00:00:21,875 --> 00:00:27,075 Speaker 1: Indicted and the lone true surprise is the six unindicted 3 00:00:27,075 --> 00:00:30,955 Speaker 1: co conspirators, because for once Donald Trump is not alone 4 00:00:30,995 --> 00:00:33,835 Speaker 1: on the stage of infamy. And it may yet prove 5 00:00:33,915 --> 00:00:37,115 Speaker 1: that the Trump six are as important to this case 6 00:00:37,195 --> 00:00:41,715 Speaker 1: as anything else, because they can only be unindicted because 7 00:00:41,755 --> 00:00:45,275 Speaker 1: the special prosecutor is holding out hope, holding out an 8 00:00:45,315 --> 00:00:49,355 Speaker 1: offer that he can make them into witnesses by deferring 9 00:00:49,475 --> 00:00:54,315 Speaker 1: indicting them and by implicitly threatening to indict them. Plus, 10 00:00:54,315 --> 00:00:57,155 Speaker 1: we all think we can figure out with certainty who 11 00:00:57,195 --> 00:01:00,595 Speaker 1: at least the first five of them are, and each 12 00:01:00,875 --> 00:01:04,435 Speaker 1: now has the sword of Damocles hanging over his or 13 00:01:04,435 --> 00:01:07,235 Speaker 1: her head, and I will run down the best information 14 00:01:07,315 --> 00:01:10,835 Speaker 1: available here as to their identities hours after the indictment. 15 00:01:11,235 --> 00:01:14,915 Speaker 1: I'll do that in a moment. First, As for Trump, 16 00:01:15,315 --> 00:01:18,235 Speaker 1: he is in the worst position he has been on 17 00:01:18,355 --> 00:01:22,555 Speaker 1: any of his indictment days because flatly, the narrative presented 18 00:01:22,595 --> 00:01:25,835 Speaker 1: in this document by Jack Smith in the forty five page, 19 00:01:26,115 --> 00:01:33,395 Speaker 1: four count indictment really offers him only one defense, abject stupidity, 20 00:01:34,555 --> 00:01:37,995 Speaker 1: despite having lost it. Begins the defendant was determined to 21 00:01:38,035 --> 00:01:41,115 Speaker 1: remain in power, so for more than two months following 22 00:01:41,155 --> 00:01:44,275 Speaker 1: election day on November three, twenty twenty, the defendant spread 23 00:01:44,355 --> 00:01:48,395 Speaker 1: lies that there had been outcome determinative fraud in the 24 00:01:48,395 --> 00:01:52,435 Speaker 1: election and that he had actually won. These claims were false, 25 00:01:52,835 --> 00:01:58,755 Speaker 1: and the defendant knew that they were false, but the 26 00:01:58,755 --> 00:02:02,955 Speaker 1: defendant repeated and widely disseminated them anyway to make his 27 00:02:03,195 --> 00:02:07,915 Speaker 1: knowingly false claim as appear legitimate, create an intense national 28 00:02:07,955 --> 00:02:12,395 Speaker 1: atmosphere of mistrust and anger, and erode public faith in 29 00:02:12,475 --> 00:02:18,435 Speaker 1: the administration of the election. Note well, those words lies, 30 00:02:19,035 --> 00:02:26,115 Speaker 1: claims false, knowingly false, erode public faith. Those words and 31 00:02:26,195 --> 00:02:30,395 Speaker 1: many like them, then appear throughout this document as if 32 00:02:30,435 --> 00:02:35,235 Speaker 1: they were characters in a novel. The word knowingly appears 33 00:02:35,835 --> 00:02:40,195 Speaker 1: several dozen times. Smith has indicted Trump not merely for 34 00:02:40,235 --> 00:02:43,155 Speaker 1: trying to overthrow the twenty twenty election, not merely for 35 00:02:43,235 --> 00:02:46,195 Speaker 1: trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power, not merely 36 00:02:46,275 --> 00:02:49,395 Speaker 1: to try to savage American democracy, but of doing all 37 00:02:49,435 --> 00:02:52,715 Speaker 1: that while he knew every moment of every day that 38 00:02:52,795 --> 00:02:56,315 Speaker 1: he was lying, as he did so again and again. 39 00:02:56,475 --> 00:03:03,635 Speaker 1: Prosecutors quote Trump advisors, lawyers, political appointees, counselors, as telling 40 00:03:03,715 --> 00:03:11,235 Speaker 1: him he lost, and importantly beyond belief at least once. 41 00:03:11,475 --> 00:03:16,675 Speaker 1: Jack Smith quotes Trump acknowledging it, acknowledging he lost, acknowledging 42 00:03:16,715 --> 00:03:19,875 Speaker 1: on January third that Joe Biden would be president on 43 00:03:19,955 --> 00:03:25,355 Speaker 1: January twentieth, and then immediately after acknowledging it, going back 44 00:03:25,395 --> 00:03:27,995 Speaker 1: to trying to stop it from happening, try to lie 45 00:03:28,035 --> 00:03:30,155 Speaker 1: about it, trying to run a coup to make it 46 00:03:30,195 --> 00:03:35,395 Speaker 1: impossible paragraph eighty three. Quote On the evening of January third, 47 00:03:35,515 --> 00:03:38,395 Speaker 1: the defendant met for a briefing on an overseas national 48 00:03:38,435 --> 00:03:40,915 Speaker 1: security issue with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 49 00:03:40,955 --> 00:03:44,915 Speaker 1: Staff and other senior national security advisors. The chairman briefed 50 00:03:44,915 --> 00:03:48,715 Speaker 1: the defendant on the issue, which had previously arisen in December, 51 00:03:48,915 --> 00:03:51,555 Speaker 1: as well as possible ways the defendant could handle it. 52 00:03:51,995 --> 00:03:55,155 Speaker 1: When the chairman and another adviser recommended that the defendant 53 00:03:55,155 --> 00:03:58,275 Speaker 1: take no action because inauguration Day was only seventeen days 54 00:03:58,275 --> 00:04:01,995 Speaker 1: away and any course of action could trigger something unhelpful, 55 00:04:02,395 --> 00:04:08,795 Speaker 1: the defendant calmly agreed, stating, Yeah, you're right, it's too 56 00:04:08,995 --> 00:04:13,675 Speaker 1: late for us. We're going to give that to the 57 00:04:13,715 --> 00:04:18,835 Speaker 1: next guy. But Trump did not give that to the 58 00:04:18,875 --> 00:04:24,595 Speaker 1: next guy, paragraph eighty four quote. The defendant moved immediately 59 00:04:24,595 --> 00:04:27,555 Speaker 1: from this national security briefing to the meeting that the 60 00:04:27,595 --> 00:04:31,435 Speaker 1: Acting Attorney General had requested earlier that day. The defendant 61 00:04:31,515 --> 00:04:35,395 Speaker 1: expressed frustration with the acting Attorney General for failing to 62 00:04:35,475 --> 00:04:39,235 Speaker 1: do anything to overturn the election results, and the group 63 00:04:39,275 --> 00:04:43,755 Speaker 1: discussed co conspirator for his plans to investigate purported election 64 00:04:43,915 --> 00:04:47,595 Speaker 1: fraud and to send his proposed letter to state officials, 65 00:04:47,995 --> 00:04:50,835 Speaker 1: a copy of which was provided to the defendant during 66 00:04:50,875 --> 00:04:58,955 Speaker 1: the meeting that happened right after the acknowledgment he had lost. 67 00:04:59,595 --> 00:05:03,515 Speaker 1: There are only two explanations anyone could offer for that 68 00:05:03,715 --> 00:05:06,715 Speaker 1: kind of behavior. You acknowledge you have lost the election 69 00:05:06,875 --> 00:05:10,035 Speaker 1: and are leaving office in one meeting, and then go 70 00:05:10,115 --> 00:05:13,995 Speaker 1: to a second meeting immediately thereafter over how to stay 71 00:05:14,075 --> 00:05:17,435 Speaker 1: in office. Either you are stupid to the point of 72 00:05:17,555 --> 00:05:21,555 Speaker 1: mental incompetence, or you are engaged in a conspiracy to 73 00:05:21,795 --> 00:05:24,635 Speaker 1: knowingly defraud the people of the United States of America 74 00:05:24,675 --> 00:05:28,955 Speaker 1: by any and all means available to you. And you 75 00:05:29,075 --> 00:05:35,835 Speaker 1: cannot plead stupid one more quote only because if you 76 00:05:35,915 --> 00:05:39,035 Speaker 1: wanted somebody to just read this aloud, that's what AI 77 00:05:39,075 --> 00:05:43,515 Speaker 1: is for. I guess there are two evidentiary surprises in this. 78 00:05:43,595 --> 00:05:48,195 Speaker 1: One is that one Trump advisor above all others, repeatedly 79 00:05:48,275 --> 00:05:51,435 Speaker 1: told him he had no case, there was no fraud, 80 00:05:51,755 --> 00:05:56,875 Speaker 1: there was no way. CNN's sources have identified this one 81 00:05:56,955 --> 00:06:03,955 Speaker 1: advisor as Jason Miller, and more importantly, evidently gleaned from 82 00:06:03,995 --> 00:06:06,155 Speaker 1: the notes that might Pence turned over to the Special 83 00:06:06,235 --> 00:06:09,955 Speaker 1: Council's Office. January first, twenty twenty one, Trump calls Pence 84 00:06:10,275 --> 00:06:13,635 Speaker 1: berates Pence for opposing the charade in which Pence would 85 00:06:13,635 --> 00:06:16,595 Speaker 1: have claimed his ceremonial role during the electoral vote count 86 00:06:16,635 --> 00:06:19,435 Speaker 1: was in fact decisive, and Pence told Trump there was 87 00:06:19,515 --> 00:06:23,195 Speaker 1: no such constitutional authority for any vice president, and Trump 88 00:06:23,275 --> 00:06:31,275 Speaker 1: replied to Pence, quote, you're too honest, unquote. The remorseless 89 00:06:31,835 --> 00:06:36,635 Speaker 1: dishonesty of Donald Trump's entire life on this earth was 90 00:06:36,715 --> 00:06:40,195 Speaker 1: summarized in that one quotation. And if Pence were to 91 00:06:40,275 --> 00:06:43,515 Speaker 1: testify that he heard him say that, or god forbid 92 00:06:43,555 --> 00:06:46,635 Speaker 1: that there's a recording of that, it could convict Trump 93 00:06:46,675 --> 00:06:56,235 Speaker 1: by itself quote your too honest. Most disturbing of all 94 00:06:56,275 --> 00:06:59,355 Speaker 1: about that, and not mentioned in the indictment, not even 95 00:06:59,435 --> 00:07:04,235 Speaker 1: truly implied, not mentioned in the coverage of this. Trump 96 00:07:04,275 --> 00:07:09,715 Speaker 1: is still doing this, all of it daily, hourly. He 97 00:07:09,835 --> 00:07:12,675 Speaker 1: did it just before the indictment was revealed. He did 98 00:07:12,755 --> 00:07:15,475 Speaker 1: it in response to the indictment being revealed. He'll do 99 00:07:15,515 --> 00:07:24,555 Speaker 1: it again tomorrow. Now to our game, the unindicted co 100 00:07:24,715 --> 00:07:29,755 Speaker 1: conspirator's game, and who a combination of crowdsourcing and conventional 101 00:07:29,795 --> 00:07:34,395 Speaker 1: wisdom believes these six people are. And by the way, 102 00:07:34,475 --> 00:07:36,755 Speaker 1: if even just one or two of them flip, the 103 00:07:36,795 --> 00:07:41,155 Speaker 1: others go to jail and Trump with them. Keith's led 104 00:07:41,235 --> 00:07:45,235 Speaker 1: pipe cinch Number one is described as quote an attorney 105 00:07:45,235 --> 00:07:48,235 Speaker 1: who was willing to spread knowingly false claims and pursue 106 00:07:48,235 --> 00:07:53,115 Speaker 1: strategies that the defendant's twenty twenty reelection campaign attorneys would not. Oh, 107 00:07:53,155 --> 00:07:56,275 Speaker 1: mister Carter, mister Carter, I know, I know that's Rudy. 108 00:07:57,275 --> 00:08:00,195 Speaker 1: I believe even the crowd source vote on that is 109 00:08:00,275 --> 00:08:03,995 Speaker 1: one hundred percent Rudy. Smith mentioned everything here, but the 110 00:08:04,035 --> 00:08:09,635 Speaker 1: dripping haired number two, an attorney who devised and attempted 111 00:08:09,675 --> 00:08:13,355 Speaker 1: to implement a strategy to leverage the vice president's ceremonial 112 00:08:13,435 --> 00:08:19,355 Speaker 1: role overseeing the certification proceeding to obstruct the certification. Golly, 113 00:08:19,395 --> 00:08:21,715 Speaker 1: who would that be? Who? Could have been behind the 114 00:08:21,795 --> 00:08:26,315 Speaker 1: Eastman plan described right there. Oh, John Eastman again, one 115 00:08:26,395 --> 00:08:30,275 Speaker 1: hundred percent probability. Number three quote an attorney whose unfounded 116 00:08:30,275 --> 00:08:34,035 Speaker 1: claims of election fraud the defendant privately acknowledged to others 117 00:08:34,235 --> 00:08:40,155 Speaker 1: sounded quote crazy, No duh, that would be Sidney Powell, 118 00:08:40,195 --> 00:08:43,595 Speaker 1: and no adjective as ever fit any other human better. 119 00:08:44,635 --> 00:08:48,475 Speaker 1: Number four Quote a Justice Department official who attempted to 120 00:08:48,595 --> 00:08:52,355 Speaker 1: use the Justice Department to open sham election crime investigation. 121 00:08:52,635 --> 00:08:56,275 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Clark. My god, this is way easier than wordle, 122 00:08:57,235 --> 00:09:00,355 Speaker 1: But now it gets tricky. Number five. Quote an attorney 123 00:09:00,395 --> 00:09:03,675 Speaker 1: who assisted in a plan to submit fraudulent slates of 124 00:09:03,755 --> 00:09:09,915 Speaker 1: presidential election I was stuck. The group mind identified this 125 00:09:09,995 --> 00:09:13,515 Speaker 1: as Kenneth Chasebrow, the lawyer who worked with Eastman, and 126 00:09:13,715 --> 00:09:18,115 Speaker 1: I'm certain that's right now. Then the stumper. Number six, 127 00:09:20,195 --> 00:09:25,635 Speaker 1: the deep throat of this conspiracy, a political consultant who 128 00:09:25,675 --> 00:09:29,155 Speaker 1: helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential 129 00:09:29,155 --> 00:09:33,715 Speaker 1: electors to obstruct the certification proceeding. I would offer here 130 00:09:33,795 --> 00:09:37,155 Speaker 1: that if this person is not identified shortly, there will 131 00:09:37,195 --> 00:09:40,715 Speaker 1: be books written about his or her identity. Because there 132 00:09:40,715 --> 00:09:45,955 Speaker 1: are only about eleven dy billion possibilities, and many of 133 00:09:45,995 --> 00:09:52,195 Speaker 1: them are juicy names. Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro, Boris Epstein, 134 00:09:52,555 --> 00:09:55,875 Speaker 1: and the crowd favorite, though not by any means the 135 00:09:55,915 --> 00:10:01,515 Speaker 1: logical or the betting favorite, Ginny Thomas. We are offered 136 00:10:01,595 --> 00:10:05,075 Speaker 1: a clue. I wonder if jack Smith has an in fact, 137 00:10:05,235 --> 00:10:07,835 Speaker 1: created this game to keep everybody reading the whole forty 138 00:10:07,915 --> 00:10:13,995 Speaker 1: five pages. We have a reference to co Conspirator number 139 00:10:13,995 --> 00:10:19,515 Speaker 1: six in paragraph one nineteen quote. Co Conspirator six attempted 140 00:10:19,515 --> 00:10:23,795 Speaker 1: to confirm phone numbers for six United States senators whom 141 00:10:23,795 --> 00:10:28,475 Speaker 1: the defendant had directed co Conspirator one to call and 142 00:10:28,555 --> 00:10:32,715 Speaker 1: attempt to enlist, in further delaying the certification. So who 143 00:10:32,755 --> 00:10:36,195 Speaker 1: was Rudy's assistant on January sixth? Who was helping him 144 00:10:36,195 --> 00:10:39,955 Speaker 1: get the phone numbers on January sixth? The likeliest bet 145 00:10:39,995 --> 00:10:43,195 Speaker 1: is not one of the marquee names. Sadly, it has 146 00:10:43,275 --> 00:10:47,555 Speaker 1: been suggested, and it probably is the attorney Michael Roman, 147 00:10:48,115 --> 00:10:53,475 Speaker 1: who has been cooperating with Jacksmith's office some bookkeeping. The 148 00:10:53,515 --> 00:10:55,835 Speaker 1: four charges are the ones we have discussed here previously. 149 00:10:55,915 --> 00:10:58,955 Speaker 1: Eighteen US Code three seven to one conspiracy to defraud 150 00:10:58,995 --> 00:11:02,235 Speaker 1: the United States. Eighteen US Code one five one two 151 00:11:02,355 --> 00:11:06,635 Speaker 1: K conspiracy to obstruct an official pre eighteen US Code 152 00:11:06,675 --> 00:11:09,195 Speaker 1: one five to one two C two obstruction of an 153 00:11:09,235 --> 00:11:12,995 Speaker 1: attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, and eighteen US Code 154 00:11:12,995 --> 00:11:16,275 Speaker 1: two four to one conspiracy against rights. That is the 155 00:11:16,395 --> 00:11:19,355 Speaker 1: now famous post Civil War statute used against the Ku 156 00:11:19,395 --> 00:11:22,355 Speaker 1: Klux Klan when it sought to keep the freed slaves 157 00:11:22,355 --> 00:11:24,515 Speaker 1: from voting in the South. That it is applied here 158 00:11:24,555 --> 00:11:27,675 Speaker 1: to address Trump's efforts to throw out legitimate votes in 159 00:11:27,715 --> 00:11:31,715 Speaker 1: many states by using the elector's scheme and other schemes. 160 00:11:32,995 --> 00:11:36,675 Speaker 1: Trump is to appear in court on Thursday at four pm, 161 00:11:36,835 --> 00:11:40,395 Speaker 1: it is reported, in the courtroom of Judge Mok's Shila OPATII. 162 00:11:41,315 --> 00:11:44,235 Speaker 1: The case itself has been assigned to Judge Tanya Chutkin, 163 00:11:44,315 --> 00:11:47,755 Speaker 1: an Obama appointee who has not only overseen dozens of 164 00:11:47,835 --> 00:11:51,755 Speaker 1: January sixth trials already, but has, in fact, and this 165 00:11:51,835 --> 00:11:56,675 Speaker 1: is statistically proven, given out the stiffest sentences. And yes, 166 00:11:57,315 --> 00:11:59,835 Speaker 1: the news of the indictment was barely out when a 167 00:11:59,875 --> 00:12:08,835 Speaker 1: Trump spokesperson compared his prosecution to things from Nazi Ji Germany. Because, 168 00:12:09,675 --> 00:12:14,675 Speaker 1: as I noted before, underscoring all of this indictment and 169 00:12:14,795 --> 00:12:17,635 Speaker 1: all of the efforts to bring this the worst American 170 00:12:17,715 --> 00:12:22,315 Speaker 1: criminal of all time, to justice. Is the sobering reality 171 00:12:22,835 --> 00:12:27,155 Speaker 1: that all that is alleged here, all that is contended 172 00:12:27,235 --> 00:12:33,715 Speaker 1: against Donald John Trump, all of it, he's still doing it. 173 00:12:39,035 --> 00:12:40,875 Speaker 1: I will have an all new edition at the usual 174 00:12:40,915 --> 00:12:44,915 Speaker 1: time Tuesday night Wednesday morning, with more and more thorough analysis. 175 00:12:45,075 --> 00:12:50,195 Speaker 1: I hope what follows after the break is from Tuesday's podcast. 176 00:12:50,475 --> 00:12:52,315 Speaker 1: And as I always say, if you want to hit 177 00:12:52,395 --> 00:12:55,955 Speaker 1: stop now because you've already heard it, I won't take 178 00:12:55,995 --> 00:13:20,035 Speaker 1: it personally. This is countdown, foreshadowing, indictment, foreshadowing quote. This 179 00:13:20,235 --> 00:13:23,635 Speaker 1: is really bad news for Biden, Trump wrote last night, 180 00:13:23,715 --> 00:13:29,155 Speaker 1: though not really no quote, which means I will probably 181 00:13:29,235 --> 00:13:35,355 Speaker 1: be indicted again soon unquote. Do you like that foreshadowing 182 00:13:35,955 --> 00:13:39,955 Speaker 1: or how about this foreshadowing? Fannie Willis sends an email 183 00:13:40,035 --> 00:13:43,115 Speaker 1: to county commissioners asking them to make sure they keep 184 00:13:43,155 --> 00:13:49,035 Speaker 1: themselves and their staff safe and orange security barriers have 185 00:13:49,115 --> 00:13:52,195 Speaker 1: gone up around the Fulton County courthouse, and yesterday was 186 00:13:52,235 --> 00:13:56,315 Speaker 1: the first of ten days before August eighteenth, when she 187 00:13:56,595 --> 00:14:02,155 Speaker 1: ordered seventy percent of her staff to work remotely. I 188 00:14:02,195 --> 00:14:06,075 Speaker 1: don't know what could all that possibly mean. Willis gave 189 00:14:06,115 --> 00:14:08,715 Speaker 1: a TV interview quote, the work is accomplished. We've been 190 00:14:08,755 --> 00:14:11,795 Speaker 1: working for two and a half years. We're ready to go. Unquote. 191 00:14:11,795 --> 00:14:15,435 Speaker 1: I wish the district attorney would not be so bloody evasive. 192 00:14:16,755 --> 00:14:21,715 Speaker 1: The judge, the same judge, Robert McBurney, like they only 193 00:14:21,795 --> 00:14:25,555 Speaker 1: have the one in all of Georgia. McBurney tossed the 194 00:14:25,635 --> 00:14:29,435 Speaker 1: last Trump attempt to toss the evidence yesterday and to 195 00:14:29,555 --> 00:14:33,995 Speaker 1: disqualify the DA yesterday and the untossed DA also says 196 00:14:34,035 --> 00:14:38,755 Speaker 1: her schedule is her schedule, two grand juries. Neither meets 197 00:14:38,755 --> 00:14:42,435 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and in the same interview, quote, I don't 198 00:14:42,475 --> 00:14:45,355 Speaker 1: know what Jack Smith is doing, and Jack Smith doesn't 199 00:14:45,435 --> 00:14:48,315 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. In all honesty, if Jack Smith 200 00:14:48,435 --> 00:14:50,835 Speaker 1: was standing next to me, I'm not sure I would 201 00:14:50,875 --> 00:14:53,995 Speaker 1: know who he was. My guess is he probably can't 202 00:14:54,035 --> 00:14:59,555 Speaker 1: pronounce my name correctly. Unquote. We can skip for a 203 00:14:59,595 --> 00:15:02,155 Speaker 1: moment the reality that it is essential that the two 204 00:15:02,195 --> 00:15:05,315 Speaker 1: of them do know what the other is doing, if 205 00:15:05,315 --> 00:15:09,075 Speaker 1: only after they announce what they are doing. Because simultaneous 206 00:15:09,155 --> 00:15:12,955 Speaker 1: trials not only have their own perils and pitfalls, but 207 00:15:13,115 --> 00:15:17,115 Speaker 1: twin trials carry the danger that Georgia might assert one 208 00:15:17,195 --> 00:15:21,155 Speaker 1: fact or one date or one timeline and be contradicted 209 00:15:21,195 --> 00:15:24,155 Speaker 1: by what the Department of Justice is asserting, which could 210 00:15:24,235 --> 00:15:28,955 Speaker 1: be fatal for both cases. We now go back to 211 00:15:29,275 --> 00:15:32,555 Speaker 1: the DOJ, and there is still that January sixth target 212 00:15:32,635 --> 00:15:35,595 Speaker 1: letter from Jack Smith hanging like the sword of Damocles 213 00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:38,795 Speaker 1: over Trump's head. And the fact that if Smith sticks 214 00:15:38,835 --> 00:15:41,835 Speaker 1: to a timeline that matches the document's case, he is 215 00:15:41,875 --> 00:15:46,435 Speaker 1: indicting today or Thursday at the latest. And the fact 216 00:15:46,435 --> 00:15:49,555 Speaker 1: that his Trump January sixth grand jury was expected to 217 00:15:49,635 --> 00:15:54,155 Speaker 1: convene today. And while Trump's latest self pitying post, which 218 00:15:54,155 --> 00:15:56,715 Speaker 1: would be number three million, four hundred and forty seven, 219 00:15:57,235 --> 00:16:00,595 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven collect the whole series, this 220 00:16:00,755 --> 00:16:06,395 Speaker 1: latest post is not necessarily time sensitive. Sure is funny 221 00:16:06,435 --> 00:16:09,075 Speaker 1: if he already knew from his attorneys that the indictments 222 00:16:09,075 --> 00:16:12,195 Speaker 1: are coming tomorrow or Thursday, and instead of just revealing 223 00:16:12,235 --> 00:16:14,795 Speaker 1: it like he did last time, he's milking it this 224 00:16:14,915 --> 00:16:18,955 Speaker 1: way in order to further feed the fascist storyline that 225 00:16:19,075 --> 00:16:23,155 Speaker 1: the entire prosecution of Trump is being made up as 226 00:16:23,195 --> 00:16:26,435 Speaker 1: they go along, and being made up in just a 227 00:16:26,435 --> 00:16:31,515 Speaker 1: matter of hours for one reason only, namely, as Trump 228 00:16:31,595 --> 00:16:36,515 Speaker 1: also posted last night in order to kill the news cycle. 229 00:16:37,155 --> 00:16:44,795 Speaker 1: Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point. I mean, what does 230 00:16:44,835 --> 00:16:50,235 Speaker 1: Trump think his supporters are idiots? Yes, he thinks they're idiots, 231 00:16:50,395 --> 00:16:54,955 Speaker 1: and that's largely because they're idiots. You doubtless saw the 232 00:16:55,475 --> 00:16:58,955 Speaker 1: interior numbers on the latest New York Times GOP poll, 233 00:16:59,635 --> 00:17:02,475 Speaker 1: which were far more important than the exterior ones about 234 00:17:02,595 --> 00:17:06,435 Speaker 1: how much he's leading DeSantis by because the interior number 235 00:17:06,555 --> 00:17:11,635 Speaker 1: shows ninety one percent of Republicans who rely on Fox 236 00:17:12,715 --> 00:17:21,635 Speaker 1: do not think Trump committed any serious crimes. Ninety one 237 00:17:21,955 --> 00:17:26,275 Speaker 1: percent and eighty five percent say Republicans must stand behind 238 00:17:26,275 --> 00:17:30,195 Speaker 1: Trump regardless, and eighty three percent say Trump was merely 239 00:17:30,315 --> 00:17:33,955 Speaker 1: exercising his right to contest his twenty twenty loss. And 240 00:17:33,995 --> 00:17:37,915 Speaker 1: it's just too bad nobody was ever out there twenty 241 00:17:37,955 --> 00:17:40,795 Speaker 1: twenty five years ago saying Fox News and Rupert Murdoch 242 00:17:40,835 --> 00:17:45,435 Speaker 1: would end democracy and kill us all, and the uninfected 243 00:17:45,475 --> 00:17:47,995 Speaker 1: portions of American media and the public had to do 244 00:17:48,075 --> 00:17:51,235 Speaker 1: everything we could to kill Fox News first. Oh yeah, right, 245 00:17:51,355 --> 00:17:53,835 Speaker 1: I did all that and got dismissed as the O'Reilly 246 00:17:53,875 --> 00:17:55,595 Speaker 1: of the left. And I was only doing it for 247 00:17:55,715 --> 00:17:57,835 Speaker 1: ratings and my tendency to say I told you so 248 00:17:58,155 --> 00:18:01,075 Speaker 1: only in many, many, many more words is perhaps my 249 00:18:01,155 --> 00:18:06,035 Speaker 1: least attractive personality trait especially went up to half the 250 00:18:06,115 --> 00:18:10,515 Speaker 1: nation has literally succumbed to this mass hysteria in which 251 00:18:10,555 --> 00:18:15,395 Speaker 1: no fact or reality can interrupt their loyalty to an authoritarian, 252 00:18:15,755 --> 00:18:19,235 Speaker 1: anti democracy movement, and they believe that those of us 253 00:18:19,435 --> 00:18:22,875 Speaker 1: who will not simply get out of their imposition of 254 00:18:22,955 --> 00:18:27,395 Speaker 1: their own hallucination, we must somehow be removed from the equation. 255 00:18:27,755 --> 00:18:30,435 Speaker 1: And this is unfolding on the eve of the election 256 00:18:30,515 --> 00:18:33,515 Speaker 1: that will decide who is president during what is probably 257 00:18:33,635 --> 00:18:38,715 Speaker 1: mankind's last window to regain the reins of the uncontrolled 258 00:18:38,755 --> 00:18:43,395 Speaker 1: climate catastrophe. And the fascists literally have a thoroughly vetted 259 00:18:43,435 --> 00:18:47,675 Speaker 1: and organized plan to roll back all environmental controls and 260 00:18:47,795 --> 00:18:51,715 Speaker 1: actually burn more fossil fuels as part of their Project 261 00:18:51,835 --> 00:18:57,155 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. So, under the circumstances, I'll try to 262 00:18:57,235 --> 00:19:00,795 Speaker 1: keep the eye told you so as to a minimum. Also, 263 00:19:01,395 --> 00:19:05,195 Speaker 1: I will try not to either try to solve nor 264 00:19:05,275 --> 00:19:11,555 Speaker 1: to utterly succumb to the climate emergency during a podcast, 265 00:19:12,595 --> 00:19:15,755 Speaker 1: and instead he Marcus Aurelius and his wise words and 266 00:19:15,835 --> 00:19:18,155 Speaker 1: concentrate on doing that which is in front of us, 267 00:19:19,115 --> 00:19:21,755 Speaker 1: and that would be right now, this guy di Olivieria 268 00:19:22,795 --> 00:19:25,955 Speaker 1: and the postponement of his actual indictment yesterday because he 269 00:19:25,995 --> 00:19:29,315 Speaker 1: doesn't have a Florida lawyer just like the last guy, 270 00:19:30,555 --> 00:19:34,315 Speaker 1: and another week's delay to the Trump documents trial schedule. Aileen, 271 00:19:36,435 --> 00:19:40,835 Speaker 1: the Olivera does have a Trump pack attorney named John Irving, 272 00:19:41,715 --> 00:19:44,715 Speaker 1: and thus Carlos the Boss wants the server deleted. The 273 00:19:44,755 --> 00:19:47,835 Speaker 1: Olivera lives in as my childhood friend Will Bunch of 274 00:19:47,835 --> 00:19:51,635 Speaker 1: the Philly Inquirer noted, he lives in the world according 275 00:19:51,675 --> 00:19:58,355 Speaker 1: to Trump, This latest of Trump's countless victims, youft up, 276 00:19:58,395 --> 00:20:01,155 Speaker 1: you trusted us, might scare the hell out of Trump 277 00:20:01,235 --> 00:20:03,995 Speaker 1: because if he flips the way the IT manager you 278 00:20:04,115 --> 00:20:07,635 Speaker 1: seal Tevera tis flipped. Trump can't beat the obstruction of 279 00:20:07,795 --> 00:20:11,395 Speaker 1: justice rap cannot. But legal minds think the fact that 280 00:20:11,395 --> 00:20:14,195 Speaker 1: he's already been indicted makes him a less likely flippy, 281 00:20:14,595 --> 00:20:16,755 Speaker 1: because how does that look when he testifies for the 282 00:20:16,755 --> 00:20:19,755 Speaker 1: prosecution and the defense says, aren't you simply saying what 283 00:20:19,795 --> 00:20:22,955 Speaker 1: the Special Council told you to say? Because he indicted you, 284 00:20:23,555 --> 00:20:26,715 Speaker 1: then he dropped the charges, so you're not going to jail. 285 00:20:28,435 --> 00:20:31,955 Speaker 1: There was one other minor news blip last night, CNN 286 00:20:32,035 --> 00:20:35,115 Speaker 1: reported that a new court filing from Jack Smith's office 287 00:20:35,115 --> 00:20:38,435 Speaker 1: confirms that it has obtained new security video that pertains 288 00:20:38,475 --> 00:20:42,315 Speaker 1: to the effort to destroy evidence. And that is all 289 00:20:42,475 --> 00:20:45,955 Speaker 1: it reveals. We don't know what it is, just that 290 00:20:45,995 --> 00:20:50,035 Speaker 1: they got it after the last set of indictments. Could 291 00:20:50,115 --> 00:20:53,915 Speaker 1: be video of de Olivera and Walt Nauda carrying bankers 292 00:20:53,995 --> 00:20:58,075 Speaker 1: boxes on their backs, could be video of the Evanna burial. 293 00:20:58,915 --> 00:21:04,195 Speaker 1: We don't know of much more interest. The federal election 294 00:21:04,315 --> 00:21:08,675 Speaker 1: campaigin filings were due yesterday, and the Ethics Outfit Crew 295 00:21:09,195 --> 00:21:12,835 Speaker 1: analyzed the one submitted by the Trump leadership pack, which 296 00:21:12,915 --> 00:21:17,635 Speaker 1: is sarcastically named Save America. It finds the pack made 297 00:21:17,715 --> 00:21:21,235 Speaker 1: three payments to political allies, which is what a leadership 298 00:21:21,315 --> 00:21:24,355 Speaker 1: pack of any stripe is supposed to do. Three. It 299 00:21:24,435 --> 00:21:27,275 Speaker 1: made just a few more payments to Trump's lawyers, one 300 00:21:27,315 --> 00:21:32,075 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty nine of them. The money figure is unclear, 301 00:21:32,155 --> 00:21:36,315 Speaker 1: could be twenty million, could be forty million, as originally reported. 302 00:21:36,315 --> 00:21:40,035 Speaker 1: The fact that Save America is now Save Trump's ass 303 00:21:40,115 --> 00:21:45,595 Speaker 1: with lawyers that is not unclear. Three payments to political 304 00:21:45,595 --> 00:21:48,395 Speaker 1: allies one hundred and sixty nine of them to Trump's 305 00:21:48,435 --> 00:21:54,395 Speaker 1: lawyers when news broke that Trump's campaign is actually short 306 00:21:54,515 --> 00:21:58,795 Speaker 1: enough on cash that that pack asked for sixty million 307 00:21:58,835 --> 00:22:02,635 Speaker 1: dollars back from another pro Trump pack. I have joked 308 00:22:02,675 --> 00:22:05,555 Speaker 1: here that if we can't put Trump in jail before 309 00:22:05,595 --> 00:22:08,795 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election, maybe Jack Smith and Fannie 310 00:22:08,795 --> 00:22:12,315 Speaker 1: Willis and Alvin Bragg can bill him into the ground. 311 00:22:13,795 --> 00:22:18,795 Speaker 1: Those lawyer hours can mount up quickly. Even if other 312 00:22:18,955 --> 00:22:21,995 Speaker 1: people are paying for twenty million, forty million, eight hundred 313 00:22:22,035 --> 00:22:25,875 Speaker 1: and seventy five eleventy billion, it does hurt you because 314 00:22:25,915 --> 00:22:28,915 Speaker 1: it means that those same other people are not paying 315 00:22:28,915 --> 00:22:33,315 Speaker 1: that amount of money into your campaign. What if Trump 316 00:22:34,275 --> 00:22:40,355 Speaker 1: or his campaign or both really, really really had money troubles. 317 00:22:42,355 --> 00:22:45,835 Speaker 1: This was posited seriously on Twitter yesterday, And as I 318 00:22:45,875 --> 00:22:49,275 Speaker 1: say that, I am thinking you have become everything you hate, 319 00:22:49,635 --> 00:22:51,875 Speaker 1: you are this close to saying that you read something 320 00:22:51,955 --> 00:22:56,795 Speaker 1: on Facebook from Trump's cousins, nephew's next door neighbors Lion Tamer. 321 00:22:57,715 --> 00:23:01,755 Speaker 1: But there is no mistaking than as devoted as Trump 322 00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:04,675 Speaker 1: has been to never letting a dollar go on space 323 00:23:04,915 --> 00:23:08,555 Speaker 1: as long as it is your dollar, the legal bills 324 00:23:08,635 --> 00:23:13,195 Speaker 1: are mounting exponentially now and having your pack ask for 325 00:23:13,315 --> 00:23:16,395 Speaker 1: your money back from the other packs cannot be an 326 00:23:16,515 --> 00:23:21,555 Speaker 1: ordinary day at the campaign. God knows Trump has gone 327 00:23:21,675 --> 00:23:25,755 Speaker 1: bankrupt before, and his life has been structured exactly to 328 00:23:25,995 --> 00:23:30,075 Speaker 1: project wealth, whether or not he actually has any, and 329 00:23:30,195 --> 00:23:33,515 Speaker 1: everybody I actually have known in forty years of knowing 330 00:23:33,515 --> 00:23:36,475 Speaker 1: Trump who knows him better, has always insisted that he 331 00:23:36,595 --> 00:23:40,875 Speaker 1: guarded the tax returns so jealously because they would prove 332 00:23:41,235 --> 00:23:45,515 Speaker 1: he was nowhere close to being a billionaire and perhaps 333 00:23:45,635 --> 00:23:52,595 Speaker 1: only barely into nine figures. This on Twitter was the 334 00:23:52,595 --> 00:23:57,155 Speaker 1: thesis that what Trump is is cash poor, that he 335 00:23:57,195 --> 00:24:00,675 Speaker 1: could be telling the truth about his net worth without 336 00:24:00,755 --> 00:24:03,795 Speaker 1: revealing that. As the writer put it, his businesses are 337 00:24:03,995 --> 00:24:06,715 Speaker 1: worth a lot of money, but they don't make a 338 00:24:06,755 --> 00:24:10,195 Speaker 1: lot of money. Some don't make any money at all. 339 00:24:11,155 --> 00:24:15,275 Speaker 1: And that is one hundred percent provably true. The writer 340 00:24:15,555 --> 00:24:19,235 Speaker 1: was a man named Brian Jacobson, a self announced veteran 341 00:24:19,315 --> 00:24:21,955 Speaker 1: of twenty five years in the tech sector and the 342 00:24:22,035 --> 00:24:25,715 Speaker 1: cloud expert, and also a Second Amendment advocate. So I 343 00:24:25,755 --> 00:24:28,275 Speaker 1: ain't just echoing an opinion from our side of the 344 00:24:28,315 --> 00:24:33,715 Speaker 1: cognitive gap here. It is this Jacobson's contention that quote 345 00:24:33,835 --> 00:24:38,715 Speaker 1: truth social is killing Donald Trump's finances and may sink 346 00:24:38,795 --> 00:24:42,995 Speaker 1: his presidential bid. I'm not sure about the second part 347 00:24:42,995 --> 00:24:46,195 Speaker 1: of that, but the first part may really be true. 348 00:24:46,475 --> 00:24:50,155 Speaker 1: The idea he posits was to launch that social media site, 349 00:24:50,275 --> 00:24:54,075 Speaker 1: grab all the Twitter users angry at Jack Dorsey's successors, 350 00:24:54,355 --> 00:24:57,995 Speaker 1: and then take it public and let stockholders fund it 351 00:24:58,395 --> 00:25:02,035 Speaker 1: via the merger with the Digital World acquisition company, the 352 00:25:02,115 --> 00:25:05,155 Speaker 1: merger that just fell through, the merger which which government 353 00:25:05,195 --> 00:25:11,515 Speaker 1: agencies are now querying. Instead, Elon Musk bought Twitter, turned 354 00:25:11,555 --> 00:25:14,235 Speaker 1: it into what it has become, the playpen of the clouds. 355 00:25:15,235 --> 00:25:18,915 Speaker 1: Truth Social got half the users it expected or less, 356 00:25:19,315 --> 00:25:22,555 Speaker 1: the merger collapsed, and instead of getting a check for 357 00:25:22,755 --> 00:25:25,915 Speaker 1: up to half a billion dollars, Trump winds up still 358 00:25:25,955 --> 00:25:29,675 Speaker 1: owning ninety percent of truth Social himself and paying all 359 00:25:29,715 --> 00:25:32,635 Speaker 1: of its operating expenses. And what are they fifty million, 360 00:25:32,755 --> 00:25:36,515 Speaker 1: thirty million? Who knows how much it is mister Jacobson's 361 00:25:36,515 --> 00:25:39,635 Speaker 1: conclusion that this means Trump suddenly has a little less 362 00:25:39,635 --> 00:25:43,635 Speaker 1: than the five hundred million Trump owned dollars with which 363 00:25:43,675 --> 00:25:47,235 Speaker 1: to self finance his campaign, or his legal defense, or 364 00:25:47,475 --> 00:25:51,515 Speaker 1: di Olivera's legal defense, or all of the above. No 365 00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:56,795 Speaker 1: cash flow, just bills, bills, bills from lawyers about Jack Smith, 366 00:25:56,955 --> 00:26:00,275 Speaker 1: and lawyers about Fannie Willis, and lawyers about Alvin Bragg, 367 00:26:00,515 --> 00:26:03,875 Speaker 1: and lawyers about Truth Social, and this merger that went 368 00:26:03,915 --> 00:26:09,515 Speaker 1: belly up. Jacobson then jumps to the rather startling conclusion, 369 00:26:09,675 --> 00:26:12,075 Speaker 1: which is where I seem to be getting off the 370 00:26:12,155 --> 00:26:14,315 Speaker 1: train here, that Trump will either have to get a 371 00:26:14,435 --> 00:26:17,395 Speaker 1: huge amount of money from this legal defense fund he 372 00:26:17,475 --> 00:26:20,875 Speaker 1: is just starting, or he will be faced with folding 373 00:26:20,995 --> 00:26:24,755 Speaker 1: Truth Social or bowing out of the presidential race. And 374 00:26:24,795 --> 00:26:28,315 Speaker 1: I think that's farcical. Trump is not smart enough to 375 00:26:28,355 --> 00:26:32,875 Speaker 1: do either, and he's congenitally incapable of admitting defeat either 376 00:26:32,955 --> 00:26:36,635 Speaker 1: in social media business or in a presidential candidacy. That, oh, 377 00:26:36,675 --> 00:26:39,875 Speaker 1: by the way, is literally necessary to keep his own 378 00:26:39,955 --> 00:26:45,275 Speaker 1: ass out of jail. But what is absolutely logical and 379 00:26:45,555 --> 00:26:50,955 Speaker 1: legit is that the Truth Social gambit may seriously hamstring 380 00:26:51,035 --> 00:26:55,395 Speaker 1: Trump's ability to keep money flowing into his legal defenses 381 00:26:55,955 --> 00:27:01,795 Speaker 1: and into his campaign simultaneously. And then my guest would be, no, 382 00:27:01,875 --> 00:27:03,755 Speaker 1: he's not going to drop out. He would simply try 383 00:27:03,755 --> 00:27:07,555 Speaker 1: to campaign with less money than this extraordinary attempt to 384 00:27:07,715 --> 00:27:11,155 Speaker 1: extricate himself from jail and put all the rest of 385 00:27:11,315 --> 00:27:16,395 Speaker 1: us in it in his place, we'll need plus ultimately. 386 00:27:16,435 --> 00:27:20,075 Speaker 1: Even if the theory is crap, the bottom line is 387 00:27:21,675 --> 00:27:29,835 Speaker 1: Jacobson's theory is absolutely delightful, and it's worth wallowing in 388 00:27:29,955 --> 00:27:35,315 Speaker 1: for a moment because, yeah, this is true. And I 389 00:27:35,355 --> 00:27:41,075 Speaker 1: hadn't thought about this before. Donald Trump's social media ambitions 390 00:27:41,115 --> 00:27:46,755 Speaker 1: and his personal finances and to some degree fatal or trivial, 391 00:27:47,475 --> 00:27:56,115 Speaker 1: have been seriously damaged by Elon Musk Let them fight. 392 00:28:01,915 --> 00:28:04,835 Speaker 1: Also of interest, here did I mention this is the 393 00:28:04,955 --> 00:28:10,235 Speaker 1: anniversary of the podcast a year ago today, and I 394 00:28:10,475 --> 00:28:16,955 Speaker 1: said it would never last. We will do minimal celebrations meantime. 395 00:28:17,955 --> 00:28:21,475 Speaker 1: If you are a Republican member of Congress and something 396 00:28:21,595 --> 00:28:25,795 Speaker 1: messy involving you unfolds at a public event, and your 397 00:28:25,835 --> 00:28:30,035 Speaker 1: office then finds it unavoidably necessary several days later to 398 00:28:30,115 --> 00:28:34,115 Speaker 1: issue a statement that refers to the police getting involved, 399 00:28:34,115 --> 00:28:37,155 Speaker 1: and in that statement, your office also finds it unavoidably 400 00:28:37,195 --> 00:28:42,315 Speaker 1: necessary to insist that the congressman quote was not drinking. 401 00:28:43,035 --> 00:28:50,795 Speaker 1: Guess what, literally or metaphorically, you, sir, have a drinking problem. 402 00:28:51,915 --> 00:28:57,515 Speaker 1: That's next. This is countdown. This is countdown with Keith 403 00:29:05,715 --> 00:29:09,075 Speaker 1: postscripts to the news, some headlines, some updates, some snarks, 404 00:29:09,115 --> 00:29:13,235 Speaker 1: some predictions. Date Line, White Deer, Texas. His office now 405 00:29:13,275 --> 00:29:17,675 Speaker 1: admits that Congressman Ronnie Jackson, the disgraced former White House 406 00:29:17,715 --> 00:29:21,195 Speaker 1: physician and withdrawn Trump candidate to run the VA, was 407 00:29:21,315 --> 00:29:29,395 Speaker 1: quote briefly detained by law enforcement at a rodeo outside Amarillo, Texas, 408 00:29:29,395 --> 00:29:32,955 Speaker 1: Saturday night. The office insists Jackson had been summoned to 409 00:29:32,955 --> 00:29:35,155 Speaker 1: help a fifteen year old girl having some sort of 410 00:29:35,195 --> 00:29:38,595 Speaker 1: medical emergency, and somehow it was so noisy that the 411 00:29:38,635 --> 00:29:43,435 Speaker 1: cops grabbed him. Then comes this remarkable statement. Jackson was sitting, 412 00:29:43,555 --> 00:29:47,515 Speaker 1: the office says, quote in the stands during the entire rodeo, 413 00:29:48,155 --> 00:29:52,635 Speaker 1: in full view of the assembled crowd, and was not 414 00:29:53,115 --> 00:29:57,755 Speaker 1: drinking unquote. All you need to know about Ronnie Jackson 415 00:29:57,835 --> 00:30:00,035 Speaker 1: is contained in the reality that his office needed to 416 00:30:00,075 --> 00:30:03,355 Speaker 1: put out a statement saying he was not drinking as 417 00:30:03,395 --> 00:30:06,275 Speaker 1: the police detained him as he put his hands on 418 00:30:06,315 --> 00:30:11,755 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old girl at a rodeo. Also, if 419 00:30:11,835 --> 00:30:15,195 Speaker 1: Ronnie Jackson has not been drinking, watch out the Texas 420 00:30:15,195 --> 00:30:37,795 Speaker 1: economy is about to collapse. Thank you, Nancy Faust. Dateline, 421 00:30:37,835 --> 00:30:42,155 Speaker 1: San Francisco. The giant glowing X sign has been taken 422 00:30:42,195 --> 00:30:45,395 Speaker 1: off the roof of Twitter headquarters looks like it was 423 00:30:45,475 --> 00:30:48,995 Speaker 1: an inside job rather than the city stepping in. If 424 00:30:48,995 --> 00:30:52,995 Speaker 1: only Musk himself could be removed so easily, Dateline Colorado 425 00:30:53,195 --> 00:30:57,555 Speaker 1: Springs Space Command will remain in Colorado, the Biden administration 426 00:30:57,675 --> 00:31:01,715 Speaker 1: overturning a January twenty twenty one Trump decision to move 427 00:31:01,755 --> 00:31:05,395 Speaker 1: it to Alabama. The good news is this really pisses 428 00:31:05,435 --> 00:31:09,195 Speaker 1: off Senator Tommy Tuberville. The bad news is this lets 429 00:31:09,235 --> 00:31:13,555 Speaker 1: Lauren Bobert claim she made it happen and Dateline Washington. 430 00:31:13,675 --> 00:31:17,595 Speaker 1: This will stun you. After the FEC filings yesterday, it 431 00:31:17,635 --> 00:31:21,835 Speaker 1: turns out Robert F. Kennedy Junior's presidential super pack raised 432 00:31:21,915 --> 00:31:25,595 Speaker 1: nine million, eight hundred thousand dollars through the end of June, 433 00:31:26,235 --> 00:31:29,755 Speaker 1: five million of which more than fifty percent was from 434 00:31:29,875 --> 00:31:34,275 Speaker 1: one donor, Timothy Mellon, eighty one year old heir to 435 00:31:34,355 --> 00:31:39,635 Speaker 1: the banking fortune and longtime Trump donor. So RFK Junior 436 00:31:40,155 --> 00:31:43,755 Speaker 1: is running as a Democrat financed by a Republican when 437 00:31:43,795 --> 00:31:53,955 Speaker 1: in fact he is actually an asshole. Still ahead on 438 00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:58,115 Speaker 1: the first anniversary edition of Countdown, we will go back 439 00:31:58,755 --> 00:32:02,675 Speaker 1: to episode one because you can't do that yourself. It's 440 00:32:02,675 --> 00:32:06,755 Speaker 1: not like Episode one is still online anywhere. Oh right, 441 00:32:06,835 --> 00:32:10,235 Speaker 1: it is what the hell? First time for the daily 442 00:32:10,315 --> 00:32:13,555 Speaker 1: roundup of misgrants, morons and the Dunning Kruger effects specimens 443 00:32:13,635 --> 00:32:18,595 Speaker 1: who constitute today's worst persons in the world, the brons. 444 00:32:19,035 --> 00:32:22,355 Speaker 1: Musk again he is threatening the Bill O'Reilly record, which 445 00:32:22,355 --> 00:32:25,595 Speaker 1: has stood since two thousand and five. Musk is a 446 00:32:25,635 --> 00:32:28,995 Speaker 1: free speech absolutist, as you know, and what that means 447 00:32:29,075 --> 00:32:34,195 Speaker 1: is he's a free hate speech absolutist. Musk is now 448 00:32:34,235 --> 00:32:38,275 Speaker 1: threatening to sue the Center for Countering Digital Hate, the 449 00:32:38,395 --> 00:32:41,875 Speaker 1: nonprofit that tracks hate speech online, for quote a series 450 00:32:41,915 --> 00:32:45,595 Speaker 1: of troubling and baseless claims that appear calculated to harm 451 00:32:45,675 --> 00:32:51,755 Speaker 1: Twitter generally and its digital advertising business specifically. Unquote. First 452 00:32:51,835 --> 00:32:59,355 Speaker 1: of all, please it's X. It's not called Twitter. You 453 00:32:59,475 --> 00:33:02,035 Speaker 1: think Musk would know that. Secondly, Musk has spent the 454 00:33:02,195 --> 00:33:04,995 Speaker 1: entirety of his time owning that site trying to find 455 00:33:04,995 --> 00:33:08,955 Speaker 1: out who is destroying its reputation. We need to start 456 00:33:08,955 --> 00:33:12,395 Speaker 1: a gofund me to buy elon a mirror. I think 457 00:33:12,435 --> 00:33:15,675 Speaker 1: he'll show up in a mirror. The runner up, Ron DeSantis, 458 00:33:15,875 --> 00:33:21,875 Speaker 1: Remember him, mister Woki Finocchi Swamp, Remember his Fanboy magazine 459 00:33:22,035 --> 00:33:26,915 Speaker 1: editor and Tucker Carlson Darling Pedro Gonzalez and then Breitbart 460 00:33:26,915 --> 00:33:30,835 Speaker 1: produced a series of anti semitic text messages by Pedro 461 00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:35,235 Speaker 1: Gonzalez and other Dysantis supporters, including his unofficial magazine, The 462 00:33:35,315 --> 00:33:41,275 Speaker 1: Florida Standard, rallied to support Gonzales. Turned out, there were 463 00:33:41,315 --> 00:33:44,675 Speaker 1: even more Gonzales anti semitic text messages published by the 464 00:33:44,715 --> 00:33:48,155 Speaker 1: right wing Washington Free Beacon, in which Gonzales laments that 465 00:33:48,235 --> 00:33:53,915 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi quote can't be criticized because she is Jewish. Yeah, 466 00:33:54,155 --> 00:33:58,195 Speaker 1: this is one of those not that smart anti semites 467 00:33:59,155 --> 00:34:02,715 Speaker 1: waiting for reaction from DeSantis if he can find his 468 00:34:02,795 --> 00:34:06,075 Speaker 1: mouth with both hands. But our win Congressman Derek van 469 00:34:06,315 --> 00:34:09,555 Speaker 1: Orden of Wisconsin, you heard about this right last week. 470 00:34:09,595 --> 00:34:12,515 Speaker 1: A group of sixteen and seventeen year old Senate pages 471 00:34:13,235 --> 00:34:16,515 Speaker 1: on their last night in the capitol, took photos of 472 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:18,955 Speaker 1: the place, and some apparently got down on the floor 473 00:34:19,355 --> 00:34:22,755 Speaker 1: to grab images of the magnificent ceiling with their iPhones, 474 00:34:23,035 --> 00:34:26,115 Speaker 1: which is when Van Orden, in whose office the same night, 475 00:34:26,195 --> 00:34:29,555 Speaker 1: passers by photographed a significant amount of alcohol in bottles. 476 00:34:29,955 --> 00:34:33,155 Speaker 1: Van Orden approached the group and started swearing at the 477 00:34:33,195 --> 00:34:35,995 Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen year old kids, What the f are 478 00:34:36,035 --> 00:34:38,755 Speaker 1: you all doing? Get the f out of here. You 479 00:34:38,835 --> 00:34:43,475 Speaker 1: are defiling the space, you pieces of s. Who the 480 00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:46,635 Speaker 1: f are you? They told him, I don't give an 481 00:34:46,715 --> 00:34:50,635 Speaker 1: f who you are. Get out. Condemned by Democratic leaders 482 00:34:50,675 --> 00:34:53,835 Speaker 1: and Republican leaders and Senate leaders and House leaders, this 483 00:34:54,035 --> 00:34:58,315 Speaker 1: Van Orden schmuck doubled down. He not only insisted the 484 00:34:58,315 --> 00:35:02,075 Speaker 1: pages were treating the Capitol quote like a frat house 485 00:35:02,195 --> 00:35:05,515 Speaker 1: common room, he told a milwalk Key paper that they 486 00:35:05,515 --> 00:35:09,995 Speaker 1: were quote terribly disrespectful to lay on the grave of 487 00:35:10,075 --> 00:35:17,555 Speaker 1: a soldier that died fighting for freedom. Ye, Congressman, and 488 00:35:17,595 --> 00:35:20,035 Speaker 1: I use the term loosely. Even in this day and age. 489 00:35:20,475 --> 00:35:23,955 Speaker 1: There are no graves in the US capital. You're thinking 490 00:35:23,995 --> 00:35:27,715 Speaker 1: of the tomb of the unknown soldier van Orton, or 491 00:35:27,875 --> 00:35:31,235 Speaker 1: you're thinking of Jack Daniels, Or are they taught it 492 00:35:31,275 --> 00:35:36,395 Speaker 1: at Excelsior College where you got your degree online? But this, 493 00:35:36,435 --> 00:35:38,715 Speaker 1: of course gets worse. Turns out that while Van Orden 494 00:35:38,835 --> 00:35:41,235 Speaker 1: was running for that House seat, he went into a 495 00:35:41,235 --> 00:35:44,155 Speaker 1: Wisconsin library and he went nuts over a display of 496 00:35:44,195 --> 00:35:49,155 Speaker 1: books on LGBTQ topics. During Pride month. He started shoving 497 00:35:49,195 --> 00:35:51,675 Speaker 1: the books, and he lit into what he assumed, I 498 00:35:51,715 --> 00:35:55,155 Speaker 1: guess was a library stafford, but was, guess what, a 499 00:35:55,235 --> 00:35:59,675 Speaker 1: seventeen year old girl, another teenager who was a library 500 00:35:59,795 --> 00:36:04,635 Speaker 1: page another page. So this van Orton is not only 501 00:36:04,795 --> 00:36:08,875 Speaker 1: a historical ignoramus who thinks somebody is buried under the 502 00:36:08,915 --> 00:36:11,795 Speaker 1: floor of the Capitol, but he's a fifty three year 503 00:36:11,835 --> 00:36:14,995 Speaker 1: old man who has a habit of picking on teenage girls. 504 00:36:15,675 --> 00:36:18,635 Speaker 1: And there's an even bigger issue. Van Orden continues to 505 00:36:18,635 --> 00:36:21,915 Speaker 1: believe he is in the right here because the pages 506 00:36:21,995 --> 00:36:27,075 Speaker 1: were quote unquote defiling the capitol. Van Orden was in 507 00:36:27,235 --> 00:36:30,595 Speaker 1: Washington on January sixth, attended the Trump rally and then 508 00:36:30,715 --> 00:36:35,675 Speaker 1: went to the Capitol, and he thinks somebody else defiled it, Derek, 509 00:36:35,795 --> 00:36:38,515 Speaker 1: the only thing buried at the Capitol is your empties, 510 00:36:38,715 --> 00:37:02,635 Speaker 1: Van Orden. Today's Worse Parsudden and Countdown with Keith Olderman 511 00:37:02,795 --> 00:37:07,275 Speaker 1: is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 512 00:37:07,435 --> 00:37:11,395 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 513 00:37:11,475 --> 00:37:12,395 Speaker 1: your podcasts.