Speaker 1: It is Monday, Auguste. This is Jack this Happy Hour
Speaker 1: and now a guy we affectionately referred to as Chris
Speaker 1: Commas Kryptonite, J Peace Shadrick, Oh, and welcome in. Here
Speaker 1: we go. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday, presented
Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans, J P. Shadrick and the triumphant
Speaker 1: return of Pete Priscoe and Tony BASSELLI, gentlemen, great to
Speaker 1: be back with you. Pete, what's going on? I'm back?
Speaker 1: Ready for another season as weird as it's been. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like, God, I can't even go to training care
Speaker 1: and are you ready for another beat down as you
Speaker 1: get as it was like last season on Every Monday
Speaker 1: Night where I dominated you and all takes. Talking to
Speaker 1: people before this show came out, and they were talking
Speaker 1: about how I use you and they feel sorry for you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they wonder how a little guy can beat up
Speaker 1: on such a big man. Well, this is how we
Speaker 1: know you're lying. No one ever looked at you and
Speaker 1: said little big head, big big body, big belly. Wrong.
Speaker 1: Your height is your height, the nerve. Look at this,
Speaker 1: look at my face. It's all drawn. Everything that's just
Speaker 1: because you have a tan. Right now, you have the
Speaker 1: South Florida Tan, the beaches right around the corner. People here,
Speaker 1: though JP looks like he's tan. Well. I have been
Speaker 1: out in the sun. I mean I have been to
Speaker 1: practice unlike you too, the last few days. So you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's nice to be outside, get some sun. I ain't
Speaker 1: some sun, you know, the outside period. Since we were
Speaker 1: imprisoned for like four months. Good point, excellent point, we've
Speaker 1: been opened a little longer around here. I think down
Speaker 1: than Ben down in South is that right? Absolutely? Um?
Speaker 1: But you know what, the beach is great and it's
Speaker 1: open all you need. And here's what we're getting to
Speaker 1: tonight on the program. Of course, the triumphant return of
Speaker 1: Pete and Tony. Throughout the evening. I'm sure they'll bash
Speaker 1: on each other as they always do. First day in
Speaker 1: full pads. Today, defensive line has a revolving door they've
Speaker 1: installed at t I a bank field for that meeting
Speaker 1: room the last couple of weeks. We'll get into all
Speaker 1: the changes there and what it means moving ahead, how
Speaker 1: to establish an offensive identity with no preseason games, only
Speaker 1: fourteen padded practices. Thirteen After today, we'll get to some
Speaker 1: social media questions that will go around the National Football
Speaker 1: League as well. Let's start with the strangest of training
Speaker 1: camps and preseason. Of course, since we have spoken last time,
Speaker 1: the league has canceled all preseason games. There are only
Speaker 1: fourteen padded practices. If you ask Doug Moron, it's it's
Speaker 1: really eleven full padded practices. There's a ramp up period.
Speaker 1: Even with the pads on only ninety minutes today, they'll
Speaker 1: expand a little bit tomorrow in the next couple of days,
Speaker 1: so time is limited, and it's it's got to be
Speaker 1: difficult Tony to to evaluate talent in eleven padded practice. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, it makes no sense to me. You
Speaker 1: have basically, what is it, four weeks before opening day,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have eleven practices over four weeks with
Speaker 1: no preseason games. It doesn't seem like enough number. Like listen,
Speaker 1: if I was there and other guys that are veterans
Speaker 1: in this NFL, like you're fine, like give me like
Speaker 1: the ten eleven practices. I'm ready to go, um and
Speaker 1: I can go play. But this is a young football
Speaker 1: team and young guys need reps, and especially you had
Speaker 1: no offseason, no t a s. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: this is really a recipe for really sloppy football and
Speaker 1: a real disadvantage for the young teams in this league
Speaker 1: because eleven practices is not enough. And I feel sorry
Speaker 1: for anyone who's down the roster right now that's trying
Speaker 1: to make the last five spots on the team, because
Speaker 1: how do you prove yourself and eleven paddent practices, no
Speaker 1: preseason games, no chance to evaluate um guys going against
Speaker 1: opponents in game situations, full speed. I think it's a
Speaker 1: very tough task. I think that the default position it
Speaker 1: will be for gms and head coaches to go with
Speaker 1: guys that were on the team last year and they're
Speaker 1: comfortable with. I think it's you're not You're gonna see
Speaker 1: less um unrestricted free agents. I think you can see
Speaker 1: some guys that are late round draft picks, you know,
Speaker 1: having a harder time to make the team. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they end up on practice squad, But I have
Speaker 1: no idea why they landed on eleven real padded practices
Speaker 1: when you have this much time before the first game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of things. I talked to Cam Jordan's from
Speaker 1: the Saints today said it was great to get out
Speaker 1: there and hit people and stuff. He goes, talk to
Speaker 1: me in about five more days, and I'll be glad
Speaker 1: that we only have a few of them. Right, That's
Speaker 1: the way it is. But here's the other thing, Tony,
Speaker 1: and tell me if you agree with this. Nobody or
Speaker 1: teams are gonna tackle. But a few teams tackle, right,
Speaker 1: and keep practice you almost have to tackle a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think early in the season there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of big plays and broken plays because nobody's tackling
Speaker 1: and you have so much limited time to prepare for
Speaker 1: the angles speed of the game tackling. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of big plays early in the season.
Speaker 1: I get to be sloppy, and I actually worry about injuries.
Speaker 1: I think I think one thing that is discounted, and
Speaker 1: I have no science or proof to like back up
Speaker 1: this claim, but I think I think training camp hardens
Speaker 1: the body. I think there's a callust that happens. I
Speaker 1: think it's there's a toughness that you get ready for
Speaker 1: the regular season and you're not gonna have that. I
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if you see soft tissue injury injuries.
Speaker 1: And also because you're not used to the speed of
Speaker 1: the game, and guys going full speed, you're out of control.
Speaker 1: And what happens when you're out of control, you get hurt.
Speaker 1: That's where injuries happened. So I hope I'm wrong. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you never want to see anyone get hurt, but sloppy
Speaker 1: football usually learns the injuries that are unnecessary and as
Speaker 1: you said, probably leading some big plays. Let's hope. I
Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't happen, but we're gonna go. You know,
Speaker 1: if you just look at the last ten years, where
Speaker 1: we went from teams having training camps with two days
Speaker 1: and hitting and pounding and everything, the slow evolution through
Speaker 1: the cb A being renegotiated where you have limited padded
Speaker 1: practices because the head of injury concerns and everything else,
Speaker 1: and where that went um all the way now to
Speaker 1: a pandemic um shortened offseason, no preseason, to really basically
Speaker 1: no real football as far as preparing for the regular
Speaker 1: season and the speed and the intensity that happens on
Speaker 1: a football field. It's gonna be fascinating to see how
Speaker 1: this thing goes. And you know, though NFL players and
Speaker 1: coaches are resilient, you know, that they move on. Guy
Speaker 1: gets hurt, they kicked him to the curb, and they
Speaker 1: play on. It's the same type of situation. I what
Speaker 1: about this theory, Tony, that guys are gonna be more
Speaker 1: rest because they haven't had all the work in the
Speaker 1: off season. Remember there used to be that theory that
Speaker 1: guys got injury injuries because they worked too much on
Speaker 1: the field these days than they used to do. So
Speaker 1: there's there's both sides. We don't behaving at the time,
Speaker 1: but it's you have to be Let's make sure we
Speaker 1: differentiate between these arguments, because what Pete you're talking about.
Speaker 1: The argument is that there's no real off season anywhere.
Speaker 1: The guys are working out year round and so that's
Speaker 1: where you see uh soft tissue and a bunch of
Speaker 1: these injuries that you haven't seen in the past. My
Speaker 1: point is, I don't think you've seen a reduction of
Speaker 1: serious injuries since the c b A. I'd love to
Speaker 1: do it. Someone has to have information and then UH
Speaker 1: study and has the statistics or in the day to
Speaker 1: to back this up one way or another. But the
Speaker 1: feeling I get it's not like we've seen a lessening
Speaker 1: of serious injuries since they went to this format of
Speaker 1: less hitting in camp and less hitting during the regular season.
Speaker 1: I don't see that at all. I don't think they've
Speaker 1: gone down, uh tremendously since when I was playing. When
Speaker 1: you beat the heck out at each other and training
Speaker 1: can't getting ready for the season. So, um, I think
Speaker 1: JP is a little bit right. You can kind of
Speaker 1: set this argument how you want to fit your narrative. Uh,
Speaker 1: but Pete, to your point, guys getting six months off basically,
Speaker 1: maybe even longer, eight months off from doing anything football
Speaker 1: wise outside of lifting weights. Will there will we see
Speaker 1: less soft tissue injuries? Possibly because of it. It's the
Speaker 1: weirdest It's gonna be the weirdest season. But again, what's
Speaker 1: the alternative? Don't play? Let's play? Well, if you want
Speaker 1: to be the big ten in the pack twelve, Pete,
Speaker 1: that's what you do. You just don't play. That's a
Speaker 1: whole another issue. I can't watch Arizona State when the
Speaker 1: national chance but this was their year of all years. Well,
Speaker 1: the great thing is I love about these you know schools,
Speaker 1: And I'll just go off on a tangent real quick
Speaker 1: and you pull me back. In JP. My favorite is
Speaker 1: the big, big ten canceling football, but we're gonna have camp,
Speaker 1: We're gonna kids on campus to go to school. That
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Let's bring a bunch of
Speaker 1: kids back to campus and we're not gonna test. We
Speaker 1: feel okay about the safety of those kids. But the
Speaker 1: football players who were going to test constantly and have
Speaker 1: medical supervision and people watching over them, they can't play.
Speaker 1: You're talking about hypocritical. Just takes no sense at all.
Speaker 1: At least the PAC twelve canceled, like usc in plays
Speaker 1: like that canceled, and the in person school at all.
Speaker 1: At least they were consistent, but consistent. Here's the other thing,
Speaker 1: the Big ten and the PAC twelve. Oh, we're playing
Speaker 1: the spring. We care so much about the safety of
Speaker 1: the players, so let them play seasons over the eight months. Pete,
Speaker 1: It's so stupid. It's like, listen, I used to hate
Speaker 1: the SEC, and you know, I obviously became a fan
Speaker 1: of the SEC because my son playing in Florida State.
Speaker 1: But I listen, I'm a Southern guy. Now, go SEC,
Speaker 1: Go Obama, go Gators, let's go. I mean, they play football,
Speaker 1: they're they're ready to roll. Um. I have to root
Speaker 1: for the Gators now. My daughter's going there. I take
Speaker 1: her to school to tomorrow. Um, and so she goes.
Speaker 1: She's a Gator now, so I'm just full Southern. Now,
Speaker 1: how did you let her go to Gainesville? It's a
Speaker 1: pretty good school. I don't know if you realize that.
Speaker 1: I know, it's a really good school. You're the all
Speaker 1: time in Florida ripper. Your letter go to Gainesville. That's right,
Speaker 1: never never be the same. It's amazing what you know
Speaker 1: in state tuition does You're darn right. It's all about
Speaker 1: the dollars. That's all about the dollars. You know. We
Speaker 1: mentioned all these possibility of soft tissue. Once the season starts,
Speaker 1: some injuries popping up in this and that. Well, the
Speaker 1: DAGs are already beat up a little bit, guys, with
Speaker 1: all the changes over the last few days. We'll go
Speaker 1: deep into the defensive line a little bit later in
Speaker 1: the show. But just the last couple of days. Josh
Speaker 1: Oliver fracture of foot, a bone in his foot, just
Speaker 1: running yesterday, and he'll have surgery. He's done Quincy Williams
Speaker 1: with a core muscle issue. He had surgery. It went well.
Speaker 1: Rodney Gunt, we know that story. And then large a Aworda.
Speaker 1: You can't really plan for that. Then Miles Jack was
Speaker 1: sick today. That's not expected to be long term. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on right now for a football
Speaker 1: team that hasn't been in pads until today, Tony, that's
Speaker 1: a lot. Happy. Well, boy, you hold your breath when
Speaker 1: you hear guys sick nowadays, don't you. I mean, immediately
Speaker 1: you go down to the lot worst case possible scenario.
Speaker 1: They said us not COVID related though, right that that's good,
Speaker 1: I mean, but but it brings up the whole issue
Speaker 1: we right now because of the training camp and you think,
Speaker 1: you know, guys are being smart and everything else, but
Speaker 1: you have traditional injuries and you know a little bit
Speaker 1: more on the Jaguars, and you would like this early
Speaker 1: basically you've done nothing outside of one padded practice. Um.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't even get into the fact that you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to manage this COVID thing throughout the year
Speaker 1: and the wild changes that you could have at any
Speaker 1: moment because of a guy testing positive, even if he's asymptomatic. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough situation. I mean, Josh, if
Speaker 1: you look at two guys last year that they really
Speaker 1: thought they got good value for in the draft. And
Speaker 1: Quincy Williams and Josh Oliver. Josh Oliver pretty much missed
Speaker 1: all last year, was a non factor completely. Quincy Williams
Speaker 1: struggled in the transition to play that will linebacker as
Speaker 1: a rookie. But I think you're hoping for both of
Speaker 1: those to be have have impactful roles. Quincy Williams for
Speaker 1: sure on special teams as a backup will linebacker. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's supposed to player you thought he you were hoping
Speaker 1: he'd have an impact on that defense and especially teams,
Speaker 1: being a core team player probably. And Josh Oliver it's
Speaker 1: a tight end position that boy, they haven't got right
Speaker 1: for a long time. You know, you got Tyler Iffort
Speaker 1: in the off season. Um, you're hoping that for like
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't been healthy for very much of
Speaker 1: his career at all. Uh he was last year. You
Speaker 1: hope you can you know, build on that. But Josh
Speaker 1: Oliver is the guy they thought could stretch the field,
Speaker 1: work the middle of the field, athletic tight end. And
Speaker 1: this will be the second year in the row in
Speaker 1: a row in his young career. You're gonna get nothing
Speaker 1: out of him. You wonder, Tony, if a guy like
Speaker 1: that's injury playing. You hate to say that, but when
Speaker 1: a guy has back to back injuries two years in
Speaker 1: a row, it's not a good way to start your career.
Speaker 1: And we've seen guys come into the league injured, injured, injured, injured,
Speaker 1: and it never gets going for him. I hope that's
Speaker 1: not the case. But he had surgery on the foot.
Speaker 1: That does that sounds like a was it Liz Frank?
Speaker 1: Is that what it was? They didn't say. They said
Speaker 1: a bone in the foot, that's all they said. That
Speaker 1: Usually that sounds like Liz Frank. But he was in
Speaker 1: non contact just running down the field. That's two years
Speaker 1: in the row, isn't that two non contact injuries. He
Speaker 1: had a hamstring that was bad. That bad hamstring last
Speaker 1: year affected him all year. I mean, he really never
Speaker 1: got in the field and then try to come back
Speaker 1: and had some other injury late in the year that
Speaker 1: you know, he played one or two games, and now
Speaker 1: you have a non contact injury to the foot. So
Speaker 1: you just feel for the guy. It's not like he's
Speaker 1: trying to get hurt. I think a lot of times
Speaker 1: fans and people go he's a bomb, he's you know,
Speaker 1: no good. You know, I'm not saying that. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you, But that's the moniker that get hung
Speaker 1: around guy's next. I'm not saying you. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: and I hate it for a guy like Josh Oliver
Speaker 1: because trust me, there's no one more upset than Josh
Speaker 1: right now. I wanted to get out there and wanted
Speaker 1: to participate. But doesn't it sound like if he's a
Speaker 1: non contact injury running surgery that it sounds like a
Speaker 1: Liz Frank. And I'm not I don't know that, but
Speaker 1: I'm not playing doctor like I used to do in
Speaker 1: that building. But I'm gonna maybe I am. You are
Speaker 1: you actually are playing Dr Pete right now? You're actually
Speaker 1: saying he has a Liz Frank. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he has what it sounds like. One No,
Speaker 1: that's what you just said. You literally just I said
Speaker 1: it sounds like a Liz Frank. It's very unprofessional. And
Speaker 1: I think and saying, hey, I used to do that
Speaker 1: walk up with Coughood every day. But sell he's hurt, right,
Speaker 1: he's got a bad leg. Right? Are you a doctor? Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a national um on the national you know media front.
Speaker 1: I expect more out of you, Frankly, I didn't say
Speaker 1: he had a list, frank it said it sounds like one.
Speaker 1: Did you miss ethics. You've been around football long enough
Speaker 1: that a guy's running and non contact injury and their surgery,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a loose Frank. Let's come back. In
Speaker 1: a moment. We're gonna hear from Rodney Gunter, who is
Speaker 1: now on the reserve retired list. We'll hear about Rodney
Speaker 1: Gunner from head coach Doug Marron coming up in a moment.
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Speaker 1: my health? Have I taken my ability to to play?
Speaker 1: Or my ability to do my job? Have I taken
Speaker 1: all that stuff for granted? You know? Am I just
Speaker 1: you know looking at that as you know, Hey, I'm invincible. Um.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we talked about with
Speaker 1: our faith, you know, how how this game can be
Speaker 1: taken away from you at any moment for any of us. Um?
Speaker 1: You know, so how do we how do we want
Speaker 1: to approach it. Think when things like this occur at
Speaker 1: uh at this level, you know, hey, is he gonna
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Speaker 1: coach Doug Morone discussing Rodney Gunter and he is on
Speaker 1: the reserve retired list after he announced yesterday that he
Speaker 1: has an enlarged a awarda that you know, he's not
Speaker 1: quite qualified for surgery yet, but it's a risky proposition
Speaker 1: for him to play football. And he announced that yesterday
Speaker 1: you had another change from this Jaguars defensive line. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to Jaguars at Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Tony Vaselli,
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco for the first time in twenty and it's
Speaker 1: unfortunate news for a gun to. The Jaguars have offered
Speaker 1: him an off field role of some kind. He has
Speaker 1: not accepted. It's a little early in the game and
Speaker 1: but the offer is out there. At least guys, this
Speaker 1: is another change for a defensive line that, as we've
Speaker 1: just touched on a moment, Ago, has had so many
Speaker 1: changes already before even getting two padded practices. Pete, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts so far. You really feel
Speaker 1: sorry for the kid. I mean, obviously this is a
Speaker 1: situation that's very very serious. Uh. You know, you talk
Speaker 1: about football, but let's also talk about life here. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is something that he needs to fix and correct
Speaker 1: for his health. Now, in a normal situation with COVID
Speaker 1: not being around, he comes in and does it physical right,
Speaker 1: and then they find that and they probably don't sign him,
Speaker 1: and he finds out about it earlier. But when did
Speaker 1: they give him the physical? That's the question. Well then,
Speaker 1: I mean they still get physical They still got physicals
Speaker 1: before they signed free agents. I mean it was it
Speaker 1: was just where you got the physical? Act did you do?
Speaker 1: But was it your own doctors who did the physical?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you're you're saying the
Speaker 1: game the situation his own doctors. Like I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: maybe it's they find it in a different situation. What
Speaker 1: do you think the heart went went bad between the
Speaker 1: time he signed at the time he showed up for camp. No,
Speaker 1: but again, I'm like, much like your Liz frank Like diagnosis,
Speaker 1: I don't want to like, I don't know what goes
Speaker 1: into the typical free agent physical. I would expect him
Speaker 1: to do it full. If I'm gonna guarantee a guy,
Speaker 1: I think ten and half million ours guaranteed. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm doing a head to toe full evaluation of headheart joints,
Speaker 1: you know, muscles, everything, everything. And the question is is
Speaker 1: did the Jaguars do that? That's that's the point. That's
Speaker 1: exactly what I just said. No, you said, if you
Speaker 1: would have been here, would it have been? Would it
Speaker 1: have happened? I don't know that. The question is I
Speaker 1: don't need But the question should be, isn't a standard
Speaker 1: protocol regardless of where you get that physical? That part
Speaker 1: of the specs of the physical per se, Like, here's
Speaker 1: the order. The order is we want a full physical,
Speaker 1: which includes a heart work up. But he say, now
Speaker 1: you gotta remember too, Rodney is from Ronney Gunters, from
Speaker 1: like central Florida area. So I believe if I remember right,
Speaker 1: I interviewed him right after and he was either in
Speaker 1: town for it or was on the way to town
Speaker 1: for it. So I don't think it was done um
Speaker 1: on his own. I think the Jaguars were involved in this.
Speaker 1: And do we know how do you miss that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well before we we don't know, Pete. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it is the long story short is but how
Speaker 1: did they diagnose it? Did he? Was he having issues
Speaker 1: health issues that led to this? Is? Like? What was
Speaker 1: there some event that said, hey, we need to check
Speaker 1: your heart because it could be this. I mean that's
Speaker 1: the other question. But it's I will say, and not
Speaker 1: knowing and so not you know, pointing the finger or
Speaker 1: like saying anything or anyone's at fault. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: just one of those bad luck situations. Um, but I
Speaker 1: would have thought that a full cardiac work up would
Speaker 1: be a part of a physical for a free agent.
Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm wrong, I have I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming a lot of stuff here, But but I'll
Speaker 1: say that did you have it? Did you have physicals
Speaker 1: when you were playing for the team? Did you have
Speaker 1: full physicals every year? Yeah? Yeah, I guess we did,
Speaker 1: I think and I know I did. I didn't e
Speaker 1: KG when e K G have caught that? The question,
Speaker 1: I don't know that I don't either, and so I'm
Speaker 1: not like that's why I'm very careful. I'm not pointing
Speaker 1: to blame. I'm not saying it's anyway. It's no. I
Speaker 1: know it's tragic that I feel terrible for Rodney gut
Speaker 1: Gut gunter is because he can't play the game that
Speaker 1: he loves and the fact that you know, I guess
Speaker 1: the silver lining is is he signed at least a
Speaker 1: significant deal, so there's a financial Um, I guess, I
Speaker 1: don't know. But if it's guaranteed, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think you love that. Typically those are guaranteed for injury. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, unless they can say it's not like he's
Speaker 1: retiring just to retire, he's retiring medical reasons. I'd assume
Speaker 1: it's all guaranteed. I don't know any I mean, we're
Speaker 1: speculating a lot, but I my guess is that in
Speaker 1: all future physicals that this is something that the Jaguars
Speaker 1: will probably check players coming in. And maybe they did
Speaker 1: and they just missed it. Maybe it was um undiagnosed
Speaker 1: to me. One of the things that we did learn
Speaker 1: is that he does not qualify for the surgery because
Speaker 1: it's not quite enlarged enough. UM, so maybe that caused
Speaker 1: you know, it to go undiagnosed or the test missed it.
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, but it's just terrible. You feel
Speaker 1: awful for him, Yeah, that he's having to go through this. UM.
Speaker 1: You feel awful for the Jaguars or as an organization
Speaker 1: because they're counting on him, um to help be a
Speaker 1: uh defensive lignment, that we will get them more fortified
Speaker 1: against the run, which they were very pooroust last year
Speaker 1: and and uh struggled as we as well chronicled UM.
Speaker 1: And so it's it's it's not good for anybody, but
Speaker 1: I think it caught all of us by surprise, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure in the future will learn a little bit
Speaker 1: more about how this came about, if there was an
Speaker 1: event or something, and it would be fascinating to talk
Speaker 1: if you could, ever I'm not. I'm sure no one
Speaker 1: wants to talk about it right now, but at some
Speaker 1: point talk to either the Jaguars team doctors or a
Speaker 1: doctors from another NFL team. That's what you should be doing, Pete,
Speaker 1: your national guy. I called some other doctors around the
Speaker 1: league and say, hey, is this something that you would
Speaker 1: typically check for during a free agent physical. I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's a legitimate question, and I will check into
Speaker 1: it because I think you have to check the heart.
Speaker 1: How could you not, Tony? Yeah, I listen, I don't
Speaker 1: know what. I want you to get a body scan,
Speaker 1: a body scan like like like a CT scan of
Speaker 1: your body, look at your organs and stuff and make
Speaker 1: sure you're healthy. It's really technically sound, Pete. Let me
Speaker 1: look at your organs and stuff. You know, you drink
Speaker 1: the solution and they check out your organs. You know
Speaker 1: what that is. So I think if I remember, like
Speaker 1: I had, remember the combine, you have MRIs in your
Speaker 1: back and a bunch of different parts of your body,
Speaker 1: your neck, your head and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: I think it's probably Houston as a free agent or
Speaker 1: expansion whatever you were. The dumping they did of you
Speaker 1: when you went there, Did you do a physical? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, so listen they yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I mean I did something. I remember
Speaker 1: my soul. I was so close to post off of
Speaker 1: my shoulder. They couldn't really do a good look at
Speaker 1: my shoulder, which I'm sure they wish they could have
Speaker 1: done all over again. Um post looking back. But I
Speaker 1: remember being at the hospital doing stuff. I don't remember
Speaker 1: the extent of it. I'm being honest with your whole body.
Speaker 1: And they started the top, they would have stopped because
Speaker 1: they was so there was another but air up there.
Speaker 1: That was the first one. Was good? That was stupid,
Speaker 1: wasn't it? Dumping? Yeah? Great, a great a dumping from
Speaker 1: the look. Well, this adds to the list of changes
Speaker 1: on the defensive line over the last couple of weeks
Speaker 1: have come hot and heavy for the Jags and all
Speaker 1: different levels. Laurenti McCrae and al Wood's both opt out.
Speaker 1: McCrae was kind of the third option as a run in,
Speaker 1: but he's more of a special teams player. He had
Speaker 1: no impact on the defensive mind right, but he's roosted
Speaker 1: as a defensive end. That's the point. Dante Bus Russell,
Speaker 1: who was that a lot of last year or an
Speaker 1: active a lot of last year. He's on injured reserve,
Speaker 1: Bryan Price, Rodney Gunter as we mentioned, and then you
Speaker 1: see on the screen there gotsus read Davis Tomorrow and
Speaker 1: today Timmy Journey and joined the team, a guy who's
Speaker 1: been around the league for a few years. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Jacksonville first day in Pad's first day on the field
Speaker 1: for Journey again. Um, and we'll see what what he
Speaker 1: can bring on the interior this. I mean, listen, here's
Speaker 1: a couple of things. And you look at that list,
Speaker 1: ye have Adam got this that came from Denver blew
Speaker 1: out a knee. You know, he's kind of on a
Speaker 1: prove it deal. And see if his knees back and
Speaker 1: you know, and what he can do, Um post a
Speaker 1: c reconstruction. Timmy journins a guy like if you're literally
Speaker 1: picking up guys off the street, like during camp. There's
Speaker 1: a reason. Now, Timmy Journey was an outstanding player at
Speaker 1: his peak, me a really good player. Now the question
Speaker 1: is is what does he have left in the tank?
Speaker 1: Obviously a bunch of teams didn't think very much because
Speaker 1: no one else signed him. Wasn't he Pete close to
Speaker 1: signing in Houston? He didn't. He was asked about that
Speaker 1: today and he didn't have a lot to say about it.
Speaker 1: He didn't. He kind of about that. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that happened there, but he was close to signing
Speaker 1: and Houston. And look, he's a decent player when he's
Speaker 1: on the field. He's not gonna and the player and
Speaker 1: thirty plays the game type of guy right now, and yeah,
Speaker 1: he's they're gonna have the Hamilton has to play. He
Speaker 1: has to be a he has to be a factor
Speaker 1: in there. Well, I'll say the biggest thing that has
Speaker 1: to happen now and not that it didn't before, but
Speaker 1: David Bryant has to be a stud like he's out.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're starting three technique and he's got to
Speaker 1: be productive, and he's gotta be good against the run,
Speaker 1: and he's got to be like a force, like like
Speaker 1: he's the guy like you're going in you start an
Speaker 1: opening day, Give me the four three four, I would say, Avery,
Speaker 1: that knows Tavin at three. I put Josh at the
Speaker 1: big end, and I think in go Oi will be signed.
Speaker 1: But then I think so listen, first of all, he
Speaker 1: fires his agent. Now he's like, there's the reason he
Speaker 1: fired his agent. He should have fired his getting bad advice. Secondly,
Speaker 1: he's sitting there right now. Nobody is going to pay him.
Speaker 1: Like right now, if you would be interesting, I'll give
Speaker 1: you one. You wonder what to be really interesting? If
Speaker 1: the Jaguar said we're taking the tag off you right now,
Speaker 1: would anyone pay him eighteen million dollars to play? Right end?
Speaker 1: For me, they're not paying Clowney eighteen millions? Well, they played,
Speaker 1: the Falcons paid Fouler fifteen it okay, but that's my point.
Speaker 1: Feller also had thirteen sacks last year. Correct, that's my question.
Speaker 1: A question, Pete, would anyone pay in gon Way right
Speaker 1: now if the jag Wars lifted the tag eighteen million
Speaker 1: dollars a deal that averages eighteen yeah, no, and the
Speaker 1: jag Wires offered him that and so but my point
Speaker 1: is he's the franchise at seventeen point nine. If I'm
Speaker 1: a goa, I'm signing right now me too, because no,
Speaker 1: absolutely no question about it. I don't think he's getting
Speaker 1: that money anywhere else. So that's why. And listen, Yahn's
Speaker 1: a smart dude. Um, he played it out. Thought he
Speaker 1: could get out of here. I thought he could get
Speaker 1: a better deal. Um. I think he was probably getting
Speaker 1: some bad advice from his agent based on the market
Speaker 1: and what was out there. I mean, Clowney is in
Speaker 1: a similar situation. I mean, it's shocking to me that
Speaker 1: Clowney cannot get signed now. I think ultimately he was
Speaker 1: asking for too much money too. But right now he's
Speaker 1: an impact player, though he has been when he's been
Speaker 1: on the field, flowny, impactful player. He doesn't wrutch the past.
Speaker 1: We had three nap sacks last year. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: think he's disruptive. You watch him on tape. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't pay you eighteen nineteen million dollars either. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, what does he get thirteen to fifteen right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I give I'd give him a thirteen prove it deal.
Speaker 1: You know, get some incentives in it. You gotta get
Speaker 1: ten double digit sacks, which he's never had. I'll give
Speaker 1: him more money. But you're right, I think a go
Speaker 1: will be there, no question about it. Let's come back.
Speaker 1: We'll flip the script and go on the offensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball. Here from Jay Gruden, Jaguar's offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: on his quarterback Gardner Mitshew and Keena mccartell has some
Speaker 1: high praise for a rookie wide receiver and that's all
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Speaker 1: bit of Ankoin Bold and after the catch, the way
Speaker 1: he gets in and dors breaks where he breaks sackles
Speaker 1: on film. I saw that now being up close with him,
Speaker 1: he has that power of Andre Johnson. You know, I
Speaker 1: hold Andre in high regards that's my guy with good friends.
Speaker 1: But I've all also seen him work every day. Uh
Speaker 1: see the power that he has. Uh he he kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me a little bit of of Andre. He
Speaker 1: has that type of power. Keenan mccartel, Jaguars wide receivers coach,
Speaker 1: discussing rookie wide receiver love this Chris chin Al junior
Speaker 1: high praise for the rookie out of Colorado picked in
Speaker 1: the second round. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. J P.
Speaker 1: Shadrick of pe Crisco and Tony was Sally for the
Speaker 1: first time in will be with you each and every
Speaker 1: Monday throughout the regular season and hopefully beyond for this
Speaker 1: Jaguars team. But you know, I was walking in camp
Speaker 1: the other day a couple of days ago, and it
Speaker 1: was the first time I had been somewhat close. We're
Speaker 1: still distanced, of course, from the players, and you can't
Speaker 1: go anywhere near them, but there are certain places on
Speaker 1: the edge of the practice field where they run nearer
Speaker 1: you than others. And that was my first up close
Speaker 1: look at this guy. And I think he's listed six one,
Speaker 1: two twenty seven. He is all of that pete and
Speaker 1: it seems to be rock solid this guy. That's big praise.
Speaker 1: When Keenan's talking names like that, throwing those guys really
Speaker 1: big brace and when you look at his body, he
Speaker 1: looks like those guys. He's a big physical guy. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know he runs as well as Andre Johnson did,
Speaker 1: but I will say this, the one thing that held
Speaker 1: him back in college was the only thing that held
Speaker 1: the bank college was health. He went on the field
Speaker 1: all the time. When he's on the field, he was
Speaker 1: when he was on the field as a productive player,
Speaker 1: big physical, strong, could go get the ball. I think
Speaker 1: they might have a steel on him because if he
Speaker 1: stays on the field, they need that big physical presence there.
Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense. And hear Keenan say
Speaker 1: that he might want to slow it down just just
Speaker 1: a little bit. He only meant, he only meant by
Speaker 1: the body type in this style. That's all. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, i'd agree you know what he said, Pete.
Speaker 1: I would add that Keenan probably needs to get some
Speaker 1: coloring on that beard, a little bit of gray. That's
Speaker 1: what I was thinking. Who is that old guy got right? Um? Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: if you go back this and all uh the year
Speaker 1: before he came out. I mean he was, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the most powerful receivers at all college football,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people say, if you have come out,
Speaker 1: then he had been maybe a top fifteen pick. He
Speaker 1: had the what the sports turney of injury is going
Speaker 1: his last year in Colorado limited. His explosiveness was still good,
Speaker 1: was still a productive player, but it also heard him
Speaker 1: as he's trying to get ready for the Combine, so
Speaker 1: he really never saw the speed and explosiveness that he has.
Speaker 1: He looks healthy, he looks good out there. I think
Speaker 1: it's w It's too early to start making comparisons de
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson or Ant kom Bolden, both great players, border
Speaker 1: line hall of famers, maybe hall of famers. It just depends. Um.
Speaker 1: But boy, keen need have seen a lot of guys
Speaker 1: and he's been around a lot of really good receivers.
Speaker 1: And the one thing I will say about Keenan he
Speaker 1: does not throw around compliments um that easily. So it's
Speaker 1: not like he is a guy who speaks in hyperbole
Speaker 1: and is always pumping guys up a little bit more
Speaker 1: than they need to be. So UM, I trust Keen
Speaker 1: I think he's a heck of a receiver coach and
Speaker 1: uh and that's a good sign. And if listen, if
Speaker 1: Snal can even live up to that praise, it's a win. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he has done a really good job with
Speaker 1: the receivers. I think he's a good coach. Eventually he's
Speaker 1: gonna be an offensive coordinator. Who knows, maybe down the
Speaker 1: road he could be a head coach. But but he's
Speaker 1: done a really good job with that group. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at d J. Chark. I mean he took big
Speaker 1: strides last year and I think Keaton has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with it. I always say this, Keenan was
Speaker 1: one of the best route runners I've ever seen in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, Bruce Isaac Bruce was one of them,
Speaker 1: but Keenan was right there with him. He was special.
Speaker 1: And that's a great thing to have if you're a receiver,
Speaker 1: to be able to have that guy teach you. No
Speaker 1: doubt about that, and hopefully it'll pay off for Jay Gruden,
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator for the Jacksonville Jaguars, new offense, second
Speaker 1: year quarterback and Gardner Minshew. They've met virtually over the
Speaker 1: off season program, but finally they're on the field together.
Speaker 1: What does Gruden think of his signal caller in the huddle. Well,
Speaker 1: we've mainly, like I said, we're starting installed and meeting
Speaker 1: potatoes of our offense. And Garter has been great. Man.
Speaker 1: He's had a good off season. We had the virtual
Speaker 1: off season, so we got a little jump start on
Speaker 1: it um and then he carried over until when we
Speaker 1: came back and started meeting here recently. So we got
Speaker 1: a long way to go. Yeah, a long way to go.
Speaker 1: He said. This offense is in diapers still the other day,
Speaker 1: so a lot left to be installed and learned. But
Speaker 1: I guess what the clock's taking a little bit opening
Speaker 1: day and what a thirteen padded practices between now an
Speaker 1: opening day? Uh, that's a lot to get done, Peter
Speaker 1: in a short amount of time. A new offense, a
Speaker 1: young quarterback, a young team overall. How challenging will this
Speaker 1: be for j Gruden? Well, I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really challenging because clearly you want to see on the
Speaker 1: field work in in you know, May and and you
Speaker 1: didn't get that. So it will set the offense back
Speaker 1: a little bit. And when you're young, offense is set
Speaker 1: it back even more, particularly the young quarterback. But Tony
Speaker 1: could speak to that better than I have. Tony. You
Speaker 1: just say you were starting a season and you had
Speaker 1: twenty days days, not just padded practices to get everything
Speaker 1: in as a young offense, can you get it in?
Speaker 1: Are you asking me as a veteran that's about twenty
Speaker 1: it's about fifteen days more than I might need. Um.
Speaker 1: But again to your point, I'm talking about from a
Speaker 1: perspective of the veteran who's been in an offense for
Speaker 1: a long time, because you understand that, you understand the
Speaker 1: concepts and what you're doing and everything else. The question
Speaker 1: I have, because I agree with you, I don't think
Speaker 1: it is enough time to get everything you want in
Speaker 1: with a brand new offense with a young quarterback and
Speaker 1: young skilled position. You're counting he's talking about some not
Speaker 1: You're gonna count him Djin Shark, young player. Um, you
Speaker 1: know you got your offensive line, some young players there,
Speaker 1: some veterans good there. I guess uh. And so I
Speaker 1: think it's difficult to get everything in. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you think about the traditional install period, especially when you
Speaker 1: have a new coaching staff, new offensive coordinator, UM is
Speaker 1: typically you you want to install the things three times.
Speaker 1: You install them at the beginning O t A S.
Speaker 1: You install them again, uh when you're on the field stuff,
Speaker 1: so around your mini camp, and then you install the
Speaker 1: third time for training camp. And so you want to
Speaker 1: go through it multiple times to get everything in and
Speaker 1: to get everyone comfortable with the language and the philosophy
Speaker 1: and the nuances of the offense. Um. Everything has been virtual.
Speaker 1: So they did the one install over zoom. I worry
Speaker 1: about what was the attention span of guys over zoom.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you. I mean I've
Speaker 1: been living in this virtual world that I'm doing web
Speaker 1: exits for work and everything else. And unless you're really disciplined,
Speaker 1: it's easy to have your mind drift and looking at
Speaker 1: your computer and your phone and doing different things because
Speaker 1: it's hard to monitor. It's not like you're in a
Speaker 1: meeting together. UM. And so I think, how much do
Speaker 1: guys uh pick up? How much? How much gets absorbed?
Speaker 1: There would be interesting to really you know, first time
Speaker 1: installed in person is right now, and I think you're
Speaker 1: j grew and you have the parent path. I mean
Speaker 1: you really have to decide, Okay, what what portion? Maybe
Speaker 1: we only put eighty percent of the offense and compared
Speaker 1: to what we do in the past because of the
Speaker 1: young quarterback and the kind of the pandemic situation. We
Speaker 1: fired ourselves in Sonny the first year, you guys are
Speaker 1: all came together. Well, if you had to be in
Speaker 1: this same same type of same type of situations, how
Speaker 1: much do the offense could you have put in? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think that's my guess. It's a wild guess.
Speaker 1: And I look at that first year when we were
Speaker 1: putting everything new in UM and now was all new players,
Speaker 1: all new coaches. At least you have some familiarity with
Speaker 1: guys that you were here last year, so it's not
Speaker 1: quite as dire. But I mean, I look at the
Speaker 1: multiple o t as we had, many camps we had,
Speaker 1: and then we went to training camp July six July.
Speaker 1: Remember that. Let that settle in for all you listening.
Speaker 1: That was six weeks ago. And so yeah, well something
Speaker 1: you flew home on a private jet, didn't have the
Speaker 1: whole training. Yeah, that's you still have some guys, some
Speaker 1: guys who work in this building now in the building
Speaker 1: didn't show up. You remember that's a different that's the
Speaker 1: name of name Logan. He showed up July eleven. But still,
Speaker 1: I mean so, but think about and we had five
Speaker 1: preseason games. I mean, think how much time we have
Speaker 1: the insult no preseason little. I mean, I just don't
Speaker 1: think you can get it all in. I would Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the question. There's some veterans. I would say, do
Speaker 1: you point is it a way? Is there a way
Speaker 1: to point the install toward the early opponents in the season,
Speaker 1: or is it installed totally separate from that kind of thing?
Speaker 1: Do you do you crafted to the first two or
Speaker 1: three weeks upon it? I think that's dangerous because you
Speaker 1: have to put the concepts and it's the philosophy like
Speaker 1: who you are you're gonna be good at. You have
Speaker 1: to figure that out as a coaching step, like not
Speaker 1: all players can do all things. Like I'm of the
Speaker 1: opinion that Leondard, for net, is a better back out
Speaker 1: of the eye then single back. I think he's run
Speaker 1: better and so that determines like what you want to do. Well,
Speaker 1: that's interesting because I think Gardner mints you is better
Speaker 1: at a shotgun ben underneath, And so you have to
Speaker 1: figure out your philosophy of what guys can do, like
Speaker 1: what can so don't do he's a rookie, Like what
Speaker 1: is he comfortable? Is he good at running underneath routes?
Speaker 1: Is he an outside guy? Come back? Is he? You know?
Speaker 1: I don't know, and you have to learn that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. And so I think the first thing you
Speaker 1: have to do is you have to be figure out
Speaker 1: what your identity is. And the danger is is like,
Speaker 1: let's just start game planning for indeed, because guess what,
Speaker 1: you know what happens after indeed? You have to play
Speaker 1: someone else? What the Texans? Whoever we play? The second
Speaker 1: we can see Titans, Tony, do you have ever get
Speaker 1: to say you have the offense? And do you ever
Speaker 1: get to at some point during the season. Um, that's
Speaker 1: a great question. I would guess. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: Jake Gruden put everything in this year. That's my sense, um,
Speaker 1: But only he knows that. Let's come back in a moment,
Speaker 1: We'll stay on offense and get to the offensive blind
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Speaker 1: undisclosed location. CIA, where are you? No, it's it's private.
Speaker 1: These are what do they call those like ci ci
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Speaker 1: If you're in Milwaukee, Tony, what do they call those
Speaker 1: like like undisclosed sites? Right? The CIA is like, I'm
Speaker 1: not at liberty to say, Tony, Tony, you have you
Speaker 1: traveled at all on a plane during the pandemic? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Three uh three times? Yeah, he's I mean it stinks.
Speaker 1: You get to wear a mask the whole time. It's
Speaker 1: like that's you know, so you know you know the
Speaker 1: way around it. I mean I wear it. I'd wear
Speaker 1: it the entire time. But the only time you can
Speaker 1: take it off is like if you you're eating or drinking,
Speaker 1: and so I take long drinks of water because it
Speaker 1: just feels good to he just eats the whole flight
Speaker 1: and why I'm so fat? But yeah, have you been
Speaker 1: in New York? No? No, I I heard it's like
Speaker 1: a ghost down. Yeah, I was in I was in
Speaker 1: the l A actually, uh, southern Orange County. UM. And
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Speaker 1: We just ate at home. So it was that big
Speaker 1: a difference. Really strange strange times for sure. And ye,
Speaker 1: but it's interesting you. I'll give you a little COVID
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Speaker 1: like they don't sell the middle seats and only half
Speaker 1: of first class is full, so the plane is like
Speaker 1: a little over fifty full. Um. If you fly American,
Speaker 1: they sell that thing out, every seat, I mean every
Speaker 1: seat sold. And I bring that up. So if you
Speaker 1: fly American and you go through Charlotte as you're like
Speaker 1: hub connecting city, the Charlotte airport is packed. If you
Speaker 1: go through Atlanta because you're going through Delta's you know hub,
Speaker 1: it's empty. It is wild. The difference just because of
Speaker 1: the philosophy of the airlines and there are no flights
Speaker 1: like if I was still living in Jacksonville and had
Speaker 1: to come down here every week. There are no direct
Speaker 1: flights anymore. American doesn't have one to Miami. No dr
Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale. Uh, Southwest isn't doing anymore. Huh no neither.
Speaker 1: Jeff blows. You know. So it's so interesting, and I
Speaker 1: got stuck. I was I went to I was in
Speaker 1: an undisclosed location of one of my uh, dark dark sides. Uh, hope,
Speaker 1: I'm getting what is this? What is it? Wait? What
Speaker 1: is this? What we do you have? Wait? Staff? The
Speaker 1: one covert location are you at with that that looks
Speaker 1: like an office? Between? In between questioning, I get coffee. Um.
Speaker 1: But anyways, I was in undisclosed small market playing golf
Speaker 1: and uh and we're trying to leave to come home,
Speaker 1: and our flight got canceled and we literally could not
Speaker 1: get home until like the following night because there are
Speaker 1: so few light down this place to get back. Um back,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Who said I was in Wisconsin? You've gone
Speaker 1: there before, you have the track after. I've been a
Speaker 1: lot of places to play golf, You've gone to Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: I was not playing. I will say this, I have
Speaker 1: not been to Wisconsin this year. To play golf. Okay,
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Speaker 1: It's also a great opportunity and a great challenge. But
Speaker 1: these other guys to step up, you know, and if
Speaker 1: you have that happen, um, you know, that's great, especially
Speaker 1: the young guys. You know, we're looking to. The guys
Speaker 1: that we're talking about were guys that were experienced, guys
Speaker 1: that have done it before, you know, having you know,
Speaker 1: those veteran type of guys brought in. We still have
Speaker 1: a decent mix, but now it's a little bit more
Speaker 1: of the younger guys and guys that have been here
Speaker 1: to step up. We're not going to focus on things
Speaker 1: that are outside of you know, the building, at least
Speaker 1: the coaches and the players aren't, whereas myself and Dave
Speaker 1: and the scouts you know, will look at things and
Speaker 1: discuss things. You know. Our focus still needs to, you know,
Speaker 1: be on the players that are here, the coaches that
Speaker 1: are here, and getting the guys that we have good enough, um,
Speaker 1: you know too for us to be winning football team.
Speaker 1: Doug moron As were the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour,
Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Tony Baselli, Pete Prisco training camp under way.
Speaker 1: The first day of padded practices today only ninety minutes
Speaker 1: allowed by league rules and what has continued to be
Speaker 1: a strange training camp so far. The ramp up period
Speaker 1: is complete. The guys are in pads now and then
Speaker 1: they'll expand that time the next few days and then
Speaker 1: have full practices with pads few days from now. About
Speaker 1: eleven full practices are on the docket in the days
Speaker 1: moving ahead. But Doug Morone, there guys discussing all the
Speaker 1: changes that have happened the last week or two, especially
Speaker 1: on the defensive line for this Jaguars football team. The
Speaker 1: latest yesterday Rodney Gunter on the reserve retired list within
Speaker 1: large A AWARDA And if you're watching on at Jaguars
Speaker 1: or Jaguars dot com, you see the full list over
Speaker 1: the last two or three weeks of transactions on the
Speaker 1: d line. So a lot of new faces coming in.
Speaker 1: Some guys that they had counted on in free agency
Speaker 1: are not going to be available this year, including Al
Speaker 1: Woods and Rodney Gunter. So a lot of unknown and
Speaker 1: a lot of change now in this Jaguars defensive line.
Speaker 1: New offense continues to be installed, and as we've talked
Speaker 1: about earlier on the show. Today, there's only a limited
Speaker 1: amount of time to get that done before opening day.
Speaker 1: You don't have any dress rehearsal games, no preseason games,
Speaker 1: none of that. You have to go out and practice
Speaker 1: it and then show up week one ready to play.
Speaker 1: So a challenge for a young football team. And as
Speaker 1: Doug Maron said, there, hey, we've got to get these
Speaker 1: guys that are here ready and then once we get
Speaker 1: a little closer, maybe down the road, if they have
Speaker 1: to make some changes and make some additions, there are
Speaker 1: ways to do that. So there's a lot going on. Pete,
Speaker 1: this is a lot of a lot of balls in
Speaker 1: the air right now to juggle for Doug Moron and
Speaker 1: Dave calledwell, yeah, it's a challenge. It was going to
Speaker 1: be a challenge the young team of coaching staff that
Speaker 1: had some changes. A co came back, some people thought
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna come back, and so there were going
Speaker 1: to be challenges, and now I think there's even more.
Speaker 1: They didn't, you know, you don't expect guys to opt
Speaker 1: out like Al Woods and uh, you know, who knew
Speaker 1: there was gonna be a pandemic and Rodney Gunter situation.
Speaker 1: So on and on it goes, and it's more of
Speaker 1: a challenge for Doug Brown. I'll tell you we I
Speaker 1: had him in on my show last week and he
Speaker 1: seems as loose as I've ever seen him, almost like
Speaker 1: he feels free. Maybe he's free of Tom Colford, but
Speaker 1: he feels free. And he seemed that way. He looks better,
Speaker 1: He lost a bunch of weight, he looks thin, looks healthy,
Speaker 1: looks seemed like he had a good approach. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: But it's a challenge. Let's be honest. This is a
Speaker 1: rebuilding year. Yeah, and I think I agree with all
Speaker 1: things you said. The interesting thing you bring up a
Speaker 1: rebuilding year that's hard to sell and get people excited
Speaker 1: when you can't say were it's a rebuilding year after
Speaker 1: coming off seasons of what five and six wins in
Speaker 1: back to back years, And and that's the difficult, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of task that I think David Doug have right
Speaker 1: now is because the last thing anyone wants to hear
Speaker 1: is that it's rebuilding. And you know, I think one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that um as we were explained before
Speaker 1: the pandemic that uh, Dave and Doug worked what's out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Um that your sister bring you a tissue too,
Speaker 1: that'd be great tishing place tissue. Um. But one of
Speaker 1: the reasons that David Doug came or were stayed and
Speaker 1: retained is because they gave them the best chance. Give
Speaker 1: this guy, Clarenceon, I don't even know how to stop.
Speaker 1: It's like there's no cough nor anything in this world
Speaker 1: we live in right now. Um, sorry, that's very one more.
Speaker 1: Please they're coming three. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't that one of the reasons because that
Speaker 1: they kept Doug and Dave because it gave him the
Speaker 1: best chance with the young quarterback young team to win
Speaker 1: this year and to compete for the division, to compete
Speaker 1: for the playoffs. And so I think, Pete, a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't like what you say. Well, this is
Speaker 1: a rebuilding year, and it's difficult. I mean, the facts
Speaker 1: of the facts. Look at the roster, look at the
Speaker 1: young guys. Are gonna be forced to play the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: a young guy. I just don't see how it's anything.
Speaker 1: But now they might be more competitive in games than
Speaker 1: we're gonna give him credit for, particularly with the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: better than you know, he was last year. But again,
Speaker 1: on the surface, it looks like a rebuild. But P,
Speaker 1: I mean, j P, would you not agree with that's
Speaker 1: kind of the seniment coming in about keeping the David
Speaker 1: Doug and kind of what we were striving for this year,
Speaker 1: it seemed like and and and Dave talked about that
Speaker 1: the their day. He had a meeting with the media
Speaker 1: video conference and said, when you know, when they were
Speaker 1: building for seventeen, they had the understanding that this offseason
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make some moves and some changes
Speaker 1: and probably go a little younger. And they have acquired
Speaker 1: those draft picks, a lot of those for this year,
Speaker 1: twelve of them had ended up being so they had
Speaker 1: the idea that it was gonna be at some point
Speaker 1: the way they built that seventeen, it would come. Wait
Speaker 1: a second, now, so you're telling me in the plan,
Speaker 1: I mean there was a plan, they said, the way
Speaker 1: they the way they built that at some point you
Speaker 1: can't pay all those guys forever. Changes. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean I think we all do that.
Speaker 1: But to say it was part of the plan, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think it. Twenty after seventeen, everyone thought that
Speaker 1: you're gonna win five and six games the next two years.
Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone thought, like, hey, part of
Speaker 1: our plans acquired draft picks by getting rid of our
Speaker 1: best defensive player, Jalen Ramsey. But even now if they
Speaker 1: one ten games and then nine games and got in
Speaker 1: the playoffs all three years, but that's the contracts are
Speaker 1: still the contracts. But yeah, but that's a much different
Speaker 1: feeling then. I'm just responding to Pete's comment that this
Speaker 1: is rebuilding. You don't typically say we're rebuilding after winning
Speaker 1: five and six games in consecutive years. That's not what
Speaker 1: you hear and want to hear and so quickly. At
Speaker 1: my point, and I'm not disagreeing, I understand what Davi
Speaker 1: is saying that when you paid high free agents and
Speaker 1: you build the way they did for seventeen, that sooner
Speaker 1: or later, you know, here it comes calling your salary
Speaker 1: cap and you gotta, you know, make some changes. I
Speaker 1: just don't think part of those changes would ever envision,
Speaker 1: you know, not having Jan Ramsey on this roster, or
Speaker 1: not having your fighting within gokway, you know, him not
Speaker 1: being here. I mean these are two in Dante Fowler,
Speaker 1: who's the double digit sack guy, I mean, you go
Speaker 1: down the list. I'm and I agree with that you
Speaker 1: couldn't keep them all. But to say it was part
Speaker 1: of the plan to acquire draft picks to be in
Speaker 1: this situation to rebuild, I just I mean, I have
Speaker 1: a hard time buying that. That's all. Well, wouldn't you
Speaker 1: rather rebuild to try and build something special than be
Speaker 1: seven and nine, eight and eight every year? And that's
Speaker 1: kind of like what the Miami Dolphins are doing. Now.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you're asking me, I'd take
Speaker 1: eight eight right now because it was the last time
Speaker 1: this team was eight. Nate isn't good. You'd rather be
Speaker 1: rebuild the whole thing the right way and get to ten, eleven, ten,
Speaker 1: ted consistently, not not eight and eight and then have
Speaker 1: the you know, seven and nine, six and ten seasons
Speaker 1: and no for something special. Okay, but are you saying
Speaker 1: that then you should be trying to get like two
Speaker 1: wins this year and get the first pick overall, Well,
Speaker 1: that would be a bad thing taking for Trevor Baby Well,
Speaker 1: I guess my point. I'm just this is a response
Speaker 1: to I think it's difficult to say that after winning
Speaker 1: five and six games that you're in a rebuilding here,
Speaker 1: because really what you've been that's all I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with you eight and hate. If you're
Speaker 1: eight and eight over and over and over again, you
Speaker 1: never get the right pieces unless you're hit in the
Speaker 1: draft of those mid rounds, I mean the middle of
Speaker 1: the each round, which you can do. We've seen teams
Speaker 1: do that. Not all teams go to the very bottom
Speaker 1: top of the draft and rebuild their way up. I
Speaker 1: mean you've seen the Ravens and a number of teams
Speaker 1: that availed to stay at the you know, middle to
Speaker 1: upper echelon of the NFL for a number of years
Speaker 1: um and so that's the difficult thing to pete that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And so they had the seasons
Speaker 1: they had, but they weren't expecting them. They had veterans
Speaker 1: still in place, and like JP said, there was some
Speaker 1: high price contracts there. Now you get your rid of
Speaker 1: those and you start building with the younger players. That's
Speaker 1: why it's more of a rebuild. I know, nobody wants
Speaker 1: to hear that. When you go fight when you win
Speaker 1: five games, but two wouldn't be bad. That means you
Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence. Oh, and I just do things and
Speaker 1: we let to beat this up. It's one I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone likes to hear about rebuilding after winning five
Speaker 1: and six games. And I just have a hard time
Speaker 1: believing this is all part of the plan. I mean
Speaker 1: to what JP was referring to earlier in conversations, like
Speaker 1: this is part of the plan and we're in a
Speaker 1: good position now. I mean, like, I just have a
Speaker 1: hard time buying that that we're sitting here in seventeen
Speaker 1: saying like this has gone to didn't So what's your name, Tony?
Speaker 1: I didn't say it was part of that's what you said.
Speaker 1: I said they knew there would be contracts coming up
Speaker 1: and they would probably have to go younger this year,
Speaker 1: and that's what they've had to do because of the situations,
Speaker 1: and didn't expect that. They paid Blake Bortles. They figured
Speaker 1: he'd be the quarterback. Come on, you pay him, you
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be the quarterback? There were things went wrong.
Speaker 1: If that was the case, then why did you ever pay?
Speaker 1: Then you would if that was really the case. Let's
Speaker 1: say that, like you knew this is what you have
Speaker 1: to do, why did you pay Blake? You play Blake
Speaker 1: because you thought you the franchise guy. Okay, that didn't
Speaker 1: work out, And if you knew that was the case,
Speaker 1: then why did you give Nick Foles eight million dollars
Speaker 1: guarantee over four years? Like That's where I just it's
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to say, like it's almost like, hey,
Speaker 1: it didn't work out the way you want to do,
Speaker 1: and we now we're gonna start over and we're gonna
Speaker 1: go young because of contracts that we paid that you know,
Speaker 1: we're overpriced and didn't work out to our ends. That's
Speaker 1: it right there, and that's like that's accurate. But to say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we knew we'd be in this, then why didn't you
Speaker 1: pay these people all this money? With my question? And
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to say that and to say, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna rebuild now wait a second, that's what we
Speaker 1: we like rebuilding on what. Yeah, they thought two thousand
Speaker 1: eighteen was an aberration that the guys started reading their
Speaker 1: press clippings. It went bad, It didn't happen, but they
Speaker 1: could regroup a nineteen, which is why they went and
Speaker 1: got Folds, which was a major mistake. I agree with
Speaker 1: you and then when that kept going bad, then they
Speaker 1: decided now it's time to do the whole thing. And
Speaker 1: that's accurate. And really what you find out is that
Speaker 1: seventeen was the admiration. Correct. You can't win consistently that way,
Speaker 1: playing that way in the NFL. It's like the Titans.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Titans are are legitimate championship team
Speaker 1: this season? A legitimate Um? No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: But I mean they went to the championship game last year,
Speaker 1: just like Jaguars did. But I think they're a legitimate,
Speaker 1: uh wild card playoff team. If I would have said
Speaker 1: that about Jacksonville in two thousand eighteen, fair, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying but if you look at it, so I guess
Speaker 1: my I've always thought that Tanny Hills probably a better
Speaker 1: quarterback than Portals. Well, he's better, how much he's too
Speaker 1: front to her yards and two playoff games and they
Speaker 1: won because they never throw it through it. They handed
Speaker 1: off every day down and that's not sustainable. That's the point,
Speaker 1: just like the Jaguars that you and I agree on that.
Speaker 1: So just um, how as you were talking about the
Speaker 1: season and expectations everything else, I mean, every year you
Speaker 1: do your you you know, picked the games and based
Speaker 1: on the schedule. How many games? I haven't done it yet?
Speaker 1: Are you haven't done it yet? No, I'm working on it,
Speaker 1: but I haven't finished it yet. You are you close?
Speaker 1: I'd say half they're gonna win four games at best,
Speaker 1: and they'll be competitive in a bunch of them. I
Speaker 1: think then they're just not good enough. And again, what
Speaker 1: do you what do you get Minshew, Tony? What do
Speaker 1: you think he is? We don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hope he's I mean, I hope, I hope he is.
Speaker 1: What I've heard early in the training camp from the
Speaker 1: reports of people there um that he is looking good
Speaker 1: and spinning it good and he's like taking the step
Speaker 1: and progressing and everything else. That's what I hope he is. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. Not that don't it's not that
Speaker 1: I don't believe it, but I don't believe it until
Speaker 1: we get into the regular season because so much of
Speaker 1: that change is once you're under It's so hard to
Speaker 1: evaluate a young quarterback, you know, without being hit in
Speaker 1: the pressure. And what's the ceiling pot from an individual
Speaker 1: or is a team? Yeah? Like from an individual? This
Speaker 1: is pretty good last year. Yeah, he's pretty good last year.
Speaker 1: And I think it's see only thirty and you know,
Speaker 1: let's say fourth and ten. Yeah, that would be a
Speaker 1: good year if that if he has that year. Do
Speaker 1: you draft a quarterback if you're in that position? What pick?
Speaker 1: What pick do I have? And who's on the board? Well,
Speaker 1: forget if you throw thirty ten Tony Deshaun Watson hasn't
Speaker 1: thrown thirty in his career. Highest number you get. Maybe
Speaker 1: if if he goes four thousand, thirty and ten year,
Speaker 1: passing on Trevor Lawrence if you have the first overall pick.
Speaker 1: I'm never passing on Trevor Lawrence on fields. I actually
Speaker 1: seen so little of him playing, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't seen enough to be fair. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm not passing on Trevor Lawrence. Ever, I don't care
Speaker 1: if they won the Super Bowl and yeah that somebody
Speaker 1: traded for that pick, you pick them, right, you have to.
Speaker 1: He said, once in a lifetime quarterback like Andrew luck was,
Speaker 1: like John Elway was Peyton Manning once and once in
Speaker 1: a lifetime, let's come back. I think, do you think
Speaker 1: he's that good? I do, alright, He's not alone in
Speaker 1: that Tony, that's for sure. I'm not I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: argue it. Let's come back. We'll get into the offensive
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Speaker 1: We're back Taggars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Tony Boselli,
Speaker 1: Pete Frisco. Glad you're along with us. First Monday show
Speaker 1: of the season. It's gonna be back with you guys,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to social questions in just a moment.
Speaker 1: But as promised, it is our Tony Boselli. Look at
Speaker 1: the offensive line and that the most notable I think
Speaker 1: battle I think right now is a left tackle if
Speaker 1: you would you even call it a battle Cam Robinson
Speaker 1: will Richardson, Um, what do you think, Tony? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it should be. I mean, as much as
Speaker 1: I love Cam Robinson, did you do anything last year
Speaker 1: to say that you were convinced that he is your
Speaker 1: left tackle? He said he felt comfortable the last four
Speaker 1: to five games of the season. He really felt like
Speaker 1: himself again coming back not off only that that a
Speaker 1: c LS here, but remember he injured the other's leg
Speaker 1: early in the season and missed the first two games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he listen. I think he's a guy that has
Speaker 1: all kinds of talent and athletic ability and toughness, and
Speaker 1: he's an asthenest about him that I loved having him
Speaker 1: on the football field. However, we talked about it last
Speaker 1: Thursday night, the footwork issues that he had pre date
Speaker 1: in the A c L and issues. You know, you
Speaker 1: could say that early in the his second year he
Speaker 1: was not playing great football when he got hurt. Um,
Speaker 1: he struggled obviously coming back from it and then had
Speaker 1: another injury. Um. I love the toughness and the grit
Speaker 1: that he showed. Uh. And so I think, you know,
Speaker 1: based on all that, I was shocked last year they
Speaker 1: didn't give Will Richardson a chance to overtake him at
Speaker 1: left tackle, especially the way Will Richardson played in those
Speaker 1: first two games. So I think it should be a
Speaker 1: real competition. Um. I think they should, you know, have
Speaker 1: wide open competition. Breeds, Um, you know, higher play in
Speaker 1: true competitors, which I think both of them are. I
Speaker 1: think that Cam Robbins will end up winning the job,
Speaker 1: but if I was the coach, I wouldn't just give
Speaker 1: it to him. Um, by no means would I do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but how do you decide who's the guy from the
Speaker 1: eleven batted practices? Yeah, that's impossible. That's the flip side
Speaker 1: I mean. So that's why I think it's gonna end
Speaker 1: up being camp Robinson, because I don't think there's enough
Speaker 1: opportunities for Will which they overtake them. But you give him,
Speaker 1: you can only get him a couple of three games
Speaker 1: to make sure he's playing better football than you make
Speaker 1: the change. Right now, I'm evaluating, I mean the messages
Speaker 1: and I'm like, listen, we're gonna evaluate this weekend, week out.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a competitive process. And and obviously, at
Speaker 1: some point, if Cam plays at the level we know
Speaker 1: he's all capable of and we all hope he plays that,
Speaker 1: didn't you know, he solidifies that starting left tackle position.
Speaker 1: But until then, I give richest in the chance and
Speaker 1: to compete and practice and try to give him as
Speaker 1: may looks as possible. But this is one of the
Speaker 1: things that this pandemic shortened training camp is gonna cause,
Speaker 1: is gonna be part of the mean one of the
Speaker 1: effects of it is hard for guys who are fighting
Speaker 1: for positions and they're not the incumbent, it's hard for
Speaker 1: them to overtake and win that job. So so you
Speaker 1: would say on opening day, Cam Robinson stocks no matter,
Speaker 1: no matter what. Yeah. The interesting thing is and for
Speaker 1: an offensive line that was highly criticized last year and
Speaker 1: not being very productive and literally to the point where
Speaker 1: the head coach said he couldn't play Nick Foles because
Speaker 1: he wasn't he needed a quarterback who could run around
Speaker 1: and extend plays. If you remember that was part of
Speaker 1: the justification of going to um Gardner Minshew was his
Speaker 1: ability to get out of trouble. Never what you want
Speaker 1: to hear as an offensive line, they're like, hey, my
Speaker 1: our head coach is going with the guy who can
Speaker 1: make people miss um. But but that's what he said. Um.
Speaker 1: In light of that, I think they're gonna roll out
Speaker 1: the same exact offensive line that they had last year
Speaker 1: that for all sixteen games. Well, the hope is Taylor
Speaker 1: plays looks better and he was good, but he plays
Speaker 1: much better in the second season. You hope is that
Speaker 1: you mentioned Cam Robinson's healthy again and maybe he's picked
Speaker 1: some of his footwork issues. I think Linda is solid
Speaker 1: in the middle. Norwell has his games where he looks good.
Speaker 1: Sammy looks bad, but he's been okay. And then the
Speaker 1: right guard inconsistency has been his major problem. A j Can.
Speaker 1: One game he looks like he's a really good player.
Speaker 1: In the next game, he looks like he's not very good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got Ben Bart, the young kid from St. John.
Speaker 1: He played right away though, I think, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I think ultimately that's what they like him to fight
Speaker 1: for that right guard position. He's a big, physical guy.
Speaker 1: UM played tackle and you know Division three football, So
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna you know, especially with no
Speaker 1: preseason or anything else, I don't think he'll end up
Speaker 1: uh in that starting lineup. So I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be you know, Cam ROMs in Norwell, Linda can, John Taylor,
Speaker 1: sat group we have last year, Um, going into the
Speaker 1: first week. It'll be interesting though, and I really, um,
Speaker 1: I think you got to give Will Richardson an opportunity
Speaker 1: based on what we saw last year. Al Right, guys,
Speaker 1: I know Tony, it's your favorite segment Every Monday. Social
Speaker 1: media questions questions from our listening audience. We put out
Speaker 1: the ask early in the day. Here's what we received.
Speaker 1: Let's start. I'm a man of the people. No you're not.
Speaker 1: YEA question one from at Marcus Parsley. Will the Jags
Speaker 1: rotate the rookie and Avery Jones at nose tackle at
Speaker 1: early downs? Where will we see a big guy signing
Speaker 1: to reduce the rookies snap count? Tony is gonna play?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if anyone who thinks that just
Speaker 1: because he was a you know, what was your fourth
Speaker 1: round draft pick? Um Adam while state that he's going
Speaker 1: to be the guy I mean Devon Hamilton's, I mean
Speaker 1: Avery Jones will be your starter. I think Devon Hamilton's
Speaker 1: will come in as a rotational player and maybe he
Speaker 1: wins the job. I said it earlier. I think you're
Speaker 1: starting pour down Lineman or Josh Allen, Abey Jones, Paymon
Speaker 1: Bryant and Yanniqn Gockway. I don't think there is anyone
Speaker 1: to go get um out there that he's gonna come
Speaker 1: in and help you. The only creative thing that I
Speaker 1: heard that could be a possibility. Can you trade Unique
Speaker 1: and Gockway because you have uh Chase on Um to
Speaker 1: step up in there. Can you trade him for a
Speaker 1: big body interior defensive linement. There are guys still out there.
Speaker 1: Isn't snacks. No Marcel Daris is still out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I hear funny and I think I think
Speaker 1: he's pretty much done the since I've heard that too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Marcel has done a lot of money his career.
Speaker 1: Marcell absolutely has absolutely has. Our next question from at
Speaker 1: newly Bill, and this is kind of what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: A moment ago in the offensive line, do you the
Speaker 1: old line will step up this year and perform to
Speaker 1: their potential and can Ben Bart enter the starting lineup Tony.
Speaker 1: I don't think Ben bars will start to be in
Speaker 1: the starting lineup unless there's an injury early in the season.
Speaker 1: I think he has a chance maybe throughout the season
Speaker 1: UM to have They'll definitely get him in there and
Speaker 1: see what he can do. I think it's the same
Speaker 1: five guys. I hope that they're much better and I
Speaker 1: think literally I'm gonna put a lot of it on
Speaker 1: Camer Robinson. I think Cam Robinson is a guy that
Speaker 1: just needs to continue to play up to his potential
Speaker 1: what they draft about Alabama to do, and that's to
Speaker 1: be a franchise left back. He's been a little tune
Speaker 1: and consistent. Um he's a good powerful run blocker and
Speaker 1: his footwork in the past game which we've talked about,
Speaker 1: Jeff and I've talked about beating and I've talked about
Speaker 1: we've gone through it on film. Um, he has some
Speaker 1: real technique flaws that he has to clean up. If
Speaker 1: he can do that, I think he's an outstanding player.
Speaker 1: And it's a big year for Cam Robinson because if
Speaker 1: he plays well, I mean he's looking at making seventeen
Speaker 1: to nineteen million dollars next year in the open market
Speaker 1: if he has a really good year at left back.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what those guys are getting paid now, Tony.
Speaker 1: Who the swing tackle'll be Will Richardson? Yep, uh, you'll
Speaker 1: keep Ben Barks. That's two Shad Lee maybe. Where who's
Speaker 1: the ninth lineman or the tenth lineman? Where these guys
Speaker 1: coming from, I mean who knows. I mean you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys on practice squad as well.
Speaker 1: I mean it'll be interesting, and I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: have flexibility bringing guys up and down because of COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: So um, it's I don't think you're looking at just
Speaker 1: nine eight nine. I mean you might be looking at
Speaker 1: fourteen with the extra practic squad guys and you're keeping
Speaker 1: Before we move on from that, we were talking about
Speaker 1: tight ends. One of the problems with the run game
Speaker 1: last year is they couldn't block. Yeah, yeah, right, And
Speaker 1: so if you look at it, and this is so
Speaker 1: before I before I get there, peak and I wanted
Speaker 1: to say something again that I just said it for
Speaker 1: the first time. Um, but it's shocked. I mean Cam Rowlson,
Speaker 1: if he had some good year, could make seventeen to
Speaker 1: nineteen million dollars. Well, he looks like you and your prime.
Speaker 1: Then I'm talking about the kid, Uh Houston's getting Larry
Speaker 1: Tumpson's getting twenty two a year because I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he is, you know, but like, okay, if he I
Speaker 1: just said, if he comes out and has a really
Speaker 1: good year as a left tackle, Okay, would you agree
Speaker 1: he's making fifteen minimum? Yes, I mean Eric Flower's got
Speaker 1: ten a year. He couldn't block you. I mean he's
Speaker 1: getting fifteen sixteen, seventeen. It's a big year for Cam Robinson.
Speaker 1: So I said to say that again because I said
Speaker 1: it once and I was like, wow, there's a lot
Speaker 1: riding on this year, um for Cam w and I
Speaker 1: wish him the best. I hope he gets paid. Tight
Speaker 1: End is still a huge concern for me. But they
Speaker 1: could not run the ball because the tight end issues.
Speaker 1: Josh Albert was never a blocker. He's gone. James of
Speaker 1: Shaughnessy coming off a knee injury. I don'm thinking is
Speaker 1: he out there yet even practicing JP? But you know,
Speaker 1: we know what you know, coming back from an a
Speaker 1: C L means it takes time. You have Tyler Eiffert
Speaker 1: not never been known as a dominant blocker, you know
Speaker 1: in this league even when healthy. UM, and then you
Speaker 1: have to Tyl Tyler Davis is your UM. And Charles Jones.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the depth chart right now. You have
Speaker 1: Charles Jones, and who else do you have about there
Speaker 1: that could even draft pick from Georgia Tech played most
Speaker 1: of his time at you John and um yeah, O'Shaughnessy
Speaker 1: was off the side today, but he's on and off
Speaker 1: depending on the day. They don't have one. I mean,
Speaker 1: Charles Jones would probably be the one, is the one blocker,
Speaker 1: but again he's an undrafted second year player that barely
Speaker 1: played it all last year. Like again, you look at it,
Speaker 1: um and not that there was a lot of things.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could have gotten into the
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper uh uh, you know, sweepstakes and overpaid for
Speaker 1: a free agent tight end. He's a big physical I
Speaker 1: that you know maybe would have helped you out there. Um.
Speaker 1: You know there was all the complaints about uh uh
Speaker 1: David and Jocko from Cleveland. Maybe he was looking to lead,
Speaker 1: but he's more a possession guy. Uh. But my point
Speaker 1: is they haven't solved it. I mean they have if
Speaker 1: you look at this, here's an amazing thing. They let
Speaker 1: go of Marcedes Louis after the seventeen season, and Marcedes
Speaker 1: Lewis was never gonna scare you as a great receiver,
Speaker 1: but it was good red zone player and an outstanding blocker.
Speaker 1: But I'm not mistaken. He's still playing for the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. He's still in the upper echelant blocker tight
Speaker 1: ends in the NFL. And we let him go from
Speaker 1: a team that wants to run the ball and we
Speaker 1: have yet to replace him on this team. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: one of their mistakes. Chris. You've got to be able
Speaker 1: to block the edge, and that's been a major problem.
Speaker 1: Well and and you're talking about a low price position.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what he's making a Green Bay,
Speaker 1: but a couple of million dollars in today's NFL, I
Speaker 1: mean the general public, it's a ton of money, a
Speaker 1: ton of money for the three of us on this show.
Speaker 1: We love two million dollars to do the show, um,
Speaker 1: if anyone's listening, Um. But in the NFL, you know,
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, it's not a lot of money.
Speaker 1: And I it's for a team that wants to run
Speaker 1: the ball, Um, it is concerning. And for a team
Speaker 1: that wants to throw the ball, it's concerning because again,
Speaker 1: where is the where is the threat at the tight
Speaker 1: end position in the passing game? Like even Tyler Eiffer,
Speaker 1: who is healthy for the first time and what two
Speaker 1: or three years last year pete Um, you still think
Speaker 1: he only had forty five catches. But he's when he's
Speaker 1: really truly healthy, he's a threat. He's a threat, but
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a great blocker, like you mentioned.
Speaker 1: One final social question from at Kempy under School, Ryan,
Speaker 1: and this is about the tight end. We talked about
Speaker 1: this earlier. It's a little aggressive, but is John that
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous? This is embarrassing to me. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's fair to the key it um. It's not
Speaker 1: like we don't let's not put stuff like up on
Speaker 1: the screen like this, because I don't like doing that.
Speaker 1: The young guys, well, we talked about it earlier about Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's just cold. You don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's anything, but when a guy has injuries
Speaker 1: the first two years, Tony guys starting answering the question.
Speaker 1: That's fine, but made him glass. I mean that's taking
Speaker 1: a shot at him, and I think it's uncalled. You
Speaker 1: don't like that. I know you don't like that. So
Speaker 1: on the other side, we'll do we should do something
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Speaker 1: of all, we said this and you walked away, Pete
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Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, and uh is that there's
Speaker 1: only eighty guys in camp. You're gonna keep fifty five
Speaker 1: on the active roster and sixteen on practice squad. You're
Speaker 1: cutting nine guys. Let's do it. Well, come back, we
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Speaker 1: INNFL season. You know, Yeah, that's it was. He was
Speaker 1: wearing that under his helmet the other day, Pete. It's
Speaker 1: not just in the building for him. He was actually
Speaker 1: trying that type of mask out, a normal mask like
Speaker 1: you and I would wear walking around into a restaurant
Speaker 1: or whatever, under the helmet, just to see how it
Speaker 1: works out. This is the time where guys are are
Speaker 1: trying different things, whether it's the the full face shield
Speaker 1: with advisor above there over the eyes and then the
Speaker 1: mouth and nose shield below that that Oakley has created,
Speaker 1: or a mask underneath. The first few days and helmets
Speaker 1: are a good time to try those different things out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can play with that pulled
Speaker 1: up over your nose and mouth. I would have problems
Speaker 1: with that. And here's the thing, and I don't know
Speaker 1: what kind of mask that is. But if I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a study that just came out, you know
Speaker 1: that the gators and bandanna bandanas and that looked like
Speaker 1: a gator to me. But I don't want to speak
Speaker 1: to what kind of materials may it of, but that
Speaker 1: it's actually creates a higher rate, or it's more dangerous,
Speaker 1: or it's worse to wear a gator or a bandana
Speaker 1: as a mask because of what it does through the droplets.
Speaker 1: It actually makes them a finer air assault and they
Speaker 1: hang in the air longer than if you wore no
Speaker 1: mask at all. And so I mean, this came from Duke.
Speaker 1: This is not you know, this is not to Tony
Speaker 1: Boselli School of Medicine. This is actually Duke, which is
Speaker 1: I didn't know we had two doctors on the show.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I believe it was in the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. Duke University,
Speaker 1: very obviously well respected. What it tells me a mask
Speaker 1: is not a mask, and so what you wear matters.
Speaker 1: And what they're telling. What they're saying is a gay
Speaker 1: or in a bandana, and that looks like a gat
Speaker 1: or to me. Again, maybe it's a different kind of
Speaker 1: material because the guy's in the NFL, you know, different
Speaker 1: resources or whatever. Um, But you know, just to wear
Speaker 1: it because it's you feel like it's like the right
Speaker 1: thing to do from like make sure we were in
Speaker 1: the right kind of mask. I'm with Pete as if
Speaker 1: I was a player number one year outside. UM, the
Speaker 1: risk of transmission. If you look at all the experts
Speaker 1: on any side of the aisle and any anything else.
Speaker 1: If you're outside, you know, the ready to transmission is
Speaker 1: much much lower. UM. And I would not wear anything now.
Speaker 1: If I was told I had to wear one of
Speaker 1: those face shields, I obviously would. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: not play, But if it's up to me, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna wear anything because of the heat UM nowhere, I'm
Speaker 1: wearing a gator uh or anything else. If I don't
Speaker 1: have to. That would be my personal choice. Unless unless
Speaker 1: I was told by the NFL and the p A
Speaker 1: that hey, listen, we want all the players to wear
Speaker 1: these oakleff Field, mass Field or whatever, then obviously you
Speaker 1: got to do it. Now. I haven't been to anybody's facility,
Speaker 1: but talking to a lot of guys around the league,
Speaker 1: owners have spent a lot of money to try and
Speaker 1: make their facilities safe for the football players and JP.
Speaker 1: Have you been down to the Jaguars facility. I have
Speaker 1: not been in the buildings since you haven't either, right, No, no,
Speaker 1: But like they put up all different types of uh
Speaker 1: you know, guard guard rails and uh everything, plastic weight
Speaker 1: room in the weight rooms which haven't been big enough,
Speaker 1: they made them outside for him. I mean, they've done
Speaker 1: a part plexiglass everywhere. They've done a great job, and
Speaker 1: it's an expensive thing and those tests costs a lot
Speaker 1: of money. So let's just hope that some knucklehead on
Speaker 1: some team that's like player number seventy seven doesn't decide
Speaker 1: that he's going to go out to the bar and
Speaker 1: bask in his short shelf life as an NFL player.
Speaker 1: And I'm back in fact, everybody or sneak a female
Speaker 1: friend into the facility a dressed as a player. That
Speaker 1: was amazing. What if the star had done that when
Speaker 1: they have caught him. No, No, that's that's the greatness
Speaker 1: of coaches. Though we're consistent. We treat everybody the saying no,
Speaker 1: you don't. Yeah, so you're telling me that if Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson got caught sneaking his wife into the facility dressed
Speaker 1: as a player, that Pete's gonna cut her eyes and
Speaker 1: it would not even have been reported, Like, no one
Speaker 1: would ever have found out about it have been buried. Um.
Speaker 1: But those guys though, to those young players at the end,
Speaker 1: But that's where you need the veteran leaders to step
Speaker 1: up and say, guys, listen, we gotta take the serious
Speaker 1: because it's affecting all of our pay in this league
Speaker 1: and everything else. So yeah, you can't be stupid. And
Speaker 1: I take my hat off to both the PA and
Speaker 1: the NFL owners. Um, I think they hand them this
Speaker 1: really well, not easy, big economic issues in front of you.
Speaker 1: Financial ramifications based on what happens. Um a lot of
Speaker 1: risk out there economically and health wise. And if you
Speaker 1: watch the Major League Baseball like just fall all over
Speaker 1: themselves and not be able to figure it out, and
Speaker 1: really around a sport that probably easier to manage less players,
Speaker 1: the dial of the game and everything else, and they
Speaker 1: literally couldn't figure out because the economics reasons. It was
Speaker 1: embarrassing and for me at least, I thought it was
Speaker 1: didn't look good. And here comes the NFL, the most
Speaker 1: complex sport to play during the pandemic, the most players
Speaker 1: on the team close quarters, impossible to have social distancing
Speaker 1: when you're on the field. And I take my hat
Speaker 1: off to the Players Association and niphoners because they got
Speaker 1: it done and for the most part it was pretty
Speaker 1: dang smooth. Obviously intense moments back and forth using the
Speaker 1: media where they needed to to get their message across,
Speaker 1: normal negotiations, but never a risk of not playing, never
Speaker 1: a risk of not starting camp on time, and the
Speaker 1: owners did a very good job of using making sure.
Speaker 1: Like to your point, Pete, I've heard it across the
Speaker 1: league that the owners invested big dollars to make sure
Speaker 1: players were as safe as possible. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: here's the difference with baseball. Baseball's traveling. You know how
Speaker 1: guys are and you know nobody wants that's you're missing
Speaker 1: my point. No travel whatever. I'm talking about the front end.
Speaker 1: They couldn't figure it out, the economics of it. You know,
Speaker 1: I agree with you there. They wasted about a month
Speaker 1: trying to haggle with each other. And but you're talking
Speaker 1: about the test. But the testing also is interesting because
Speaker 1: remember the NFL thought that were gonna be a boatload
Speaker 1: of guys when they came back that tested positive, and
Speaker 1: there wasn't And a majority of those guys have already
Speaker 1: come back. Baseball the Marlins go out on the road
Speaker 1: and they infect fifteen guys. So yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think that's the biggest difference. They're still in first place.
Speaker 1: You gotta be first of all. You gotta be smart too.
Speaker 1: You can't go out to the clubs and go out
Speaker 1: and party in and bars and everything else. If you're
Speaker 1: a young guy, and I get it as a young guy,
Speaker 1: that's what you like to do. But right now in
Speaker 1: this world, if you want to be a professional and
Speaker 1: you want to play sports, you just can't do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen. I had an article in the break
Speaker 1: in the Roll Street Journal about the University of North
Speaker 1: Carolina just canceled all fall classes on on campus classes
Speaker 1: a C C team, you talk about ramifications. I wonder
Speaker 1: if they're gonna even play football now, because if they're
Speaker 1: not gonna allow the regular student on campus, are they
Speaker 1: gonna football players on camps? And the reason was is
Speaker 1: because after ten days I think it was being back
Speaker 1: on campus, they're like almost two hundred or just under
Speaker 1: two hundred positive cases a thirty percent positive case around
Speaker 1: of tests they gave. Because these kids come back and
Speaker 1: their kids are like you and I, Pete and JP,
Speaker 1: we were all the same way. You get back. You
Speaker 1: want to hang out, you go party, you know, I
Speaker 1: go to your friends and do whatever you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: But colleges, like, that's why I think college is gonna
Speaker 1: have a hard time trying to figure this whole thing out.
Speaker 1: As much as I want to football to be played,
Speaker 1: because you have so many factors and variables around kids
Speaker 1: on a campus, but this is has to be different.
Speaker 1: If you're in the NFL, this is your job. Like
Speaker 1: my wife and I was funny, we were talking about this,
Speaker 1: and I'd love to get your guys opinion, and we
Speaker 1: were talking about, like, where would I do because you
Speaker 1: had players opt out and everything else, which I respect.
Speaker 1: And you know, every soldier, a fellow left out, will
Speaker 1: opted out, his child has has had cancer and everything else.
Speaker 1: And some guys have opted out because they have newborn babies.
Speaker 1: I respect all that. But my wife and I asked,
Speaker 1: and I said, what do you think we would do?
Speaker 1: And basically her response was like, this is what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. You're gonna go stay at the hotel for
Speaker 1: six months and go play football because that's your damn job.
Speaker 1: And I'll say home to take care of the kids.
Speaker 1: It was interesting because it was like, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's the right decision for everybody, but like for
Speaker 1: our family, we thought about it like because I was
Speaker 1: as we were gonna do that, I'm like, what do
Speaker 1: you think we do in And I said, I know,
Speaker 1: I want to play and she's like, yeah, you better
Speaker 1: go play. It's like your job, like go stay in hotel.
Speaker 1: We can face time to kids. You can go play football.
Speaker 1: And because if you think about it, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of professions in this world where guys leave home for
Speaker 1: extended periods of time. I mean the top of the
Speaker 1: list of military, I mean guys out on the oil rig,
Speaker 1: I mean traveling salesman, I mean on the list. And
Speaker 1: so it's not like it's abnormal like to go like
Speaker 1: like if I had to make a decision, and it's
Speaker 1: really interesting. And this is where it gets so selfish
Speaker 1: for me to one like, a long career in the
Speaker 1: NFL is ten years, So if you don't play one year,
Speaker 1: you're taking away ten percent of your career. That's a lot,
Speaker 1: and you don't realize that when you're in the middle
Speaker 1: of it. The second thing is if I had to
Speaker 1: sit there and look at my earning potential as a
Speaker 1: professional athlete, and I had I'll say if I was,
Speaker 1: if I was at the level of player I was
Speaker 1: when I played the best left tackle. So I've been
Speaker 1: making twenty million dollars this year, and I was gonna
Speaker 1: look around and say, Okay, I either can opt out
Speaker 1: because maybe my family, my mom or my wife, daughter, kids,
Speaker 1: son has an underlying health issue. I can opt out
Speaker 1: and stay home, which, by the way, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: do that, that means you can't leave the house at all.
Speaker 1: Because you're saying I'm gonna protect them, that means don't
Speaker 1: leave because of what you're you'd expose yourself with everyday life.
Speaker 1: Would I do that? Which is I respect that option?
Speaker 1: Or would I say, Hey, I'm gonna go live in
Speaker 1: a hotel for six months and I will make sure
Speaker 1: my family is not exposed at all, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go play football. I would choose that I would go
Speaker 1: stay in a hotel. I would separate myself from my
Speaker 1: family or anyone that that was at risk to go
Speaker 1: play the game. Because you have such a small window
Speaker 1: in this league. Plus, like you said, it's your job.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're doing Yeah, really, that was that was the
Speaker 1: best comment. My wife just looked at me. She's like,
Speaker 1: are you crazy, it's your job. She just wants to
Speaker 1: get ready for She's gonna probably say, pretend you're playing now,
Speaker 1: go to the hotel for six months, get out of
Speaker 1: here alone. Make no mistake. I used to try me.
Speaker 1: I travel a lot. Usually this pandemic. I've been home.
Speaker 1: She's like, isn't it time for you, like start traveling
Speaker 1: again and like go to work and new stuff and like,
Speaker 1: and she's like NFL seasons and I'm like, I might
Speaker 1: not trying for the NFL because the way they're going
Speaker 1: to the beginning. She's like, what so, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you're right, I'd be in the middle of like a
Speaker 1: month on the road right now. Your wife's disappointed. Let's
Speaker 1: come back in a moment. Well, uh, well, we'll touch
Speaker 1: around the a f C South, go around the National
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Our j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Baselli,
Speaker 1: Glad you're along with us for the first Monday program
Speaker 1: of the season. Boy, and and Tony looks like he's
Speaker 1: really into it. I'll what do you mean? I'm into it? Baby,
Speaker 1: you're in I'm getting tight, I'm like into it. Well,
Speaker 1: we're glad, glad you're into it? Are you? What? Are
Speaker 1: you gonna fest off and tell us what that room
Speaker 1: Isn't you get thrown in like a prison or something?
Speaker 1: Did you what did you do? It's a it's an
Speaker 1: undisclosed sight that I can't comment on. Where I am.
Speaker 1: You're up to something listen, But but he has a
Speaker 1: wait staff apparently, so that he's got that going well,
Speaker 1: I mean, are you I could have fake or I
Speaker 1: could have fake books behind me, Like JP doesn't act
Speaker 1: like they're real. They're real books. Okay, they're book books.
Speaker 1: He never read. You have not read one of those books, Bryant.
Speaker 1: You see what I got here? Oh yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: just you know, only three people I have ever read
Speaker 1: read that book. Look at look at that guy in
Speaker 1: the back, but full head of hair. It's fantastic. Frisco
Speaker 1: and johnnyo Selly. You know what's even better is this one?
Speaker 1: Mark Brunel Books, South South Paul. How about where did
Speaker 1: you write that? Oh? Yeah, it was written for it
Speaker 1: was a kid's book. And then here somewhere you blame
Speaker 1: him for running it a sack into your You ran
Speaker 1: a sack into you. I never gave the only sacks
Speaker 1: ever gave up for his fault? Did he listens? You
Speaker 1: better be nice text? Did you sell any of those
Speaker 1: books either? One? Yeah? Yeah. The problem with the first book,
Speaker 1: Jackson Richard was by the time it got out the
Speaker 1: other season. Yeah, too late. You missed the mark on
Speaker 1: it a little bit. Hey, you need you needed e books?
Speaker 1: You get out of the book right away? Yeah, it
Speaker 1: didn't Tony JP hasn't read anything behind them show books
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Here's the other thing, like what are
Speaker 1: these footballs? Like you've never played in that organized sport
Speaker 1: in your life and you have like these football that
Speaker 1: this is Alabama. There's a World Football League ball to
Speaker 1: my left, my left, you're right, these are London balls.
Speaker 1: So this is the Bill's game. This is another one.
Speaker 1: What's the one in the case the old World Football League?
Speaker 1: An official? That was my grandparents were seasoned taking olders
Speaker 1: for the Birmingham teams, the Vulcans and the Americans. They
Speaker 1: changed the franchises. Yes, so there you go that you
Speaker 1: did the World Football legame seventy seventy mid seventies probably right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. All right, we have plenty of weeks
Speaker 1: to go through my stuff on the behind me here
Speaker 1: on the on the set. So here's the thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: before we go around the league, I expect every week,
Speaker 1: at some point we're in a segment, you have to
Speaker 1: pull one of the books out behind you and give
Speaker 1: us a book report that you've actually read it. I
Speaker 1: have an agreement on that. I can do that. I
Speaker 1: can do that, I can do that all right, I
Speaker 1: can do. We'll work on that. Let's go around the league.
Speaker 1: Let's start in the FC south of the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: Kenny Still is activated from the non football illness list
Speaker 1: and undisclosed illness. Still and cold the linebacker taking off
Speaker 1: the p U P. He had a torn a c
Speaker 1: L during the game against the Colts last year and
Speaker 1: he are they the favorite? They've won the division for
Speaker 1: out of the last five years. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: How How did they rush the pastor? And they have
Speaker 1: some issues in the secondary, the offensive line. You hope
Speaker 1: those young guys get better and they lost Hopkins. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Let's do power Raking. Well, let's get through the rest
Speaker 1: of the teams before we did. In Power the Indianapolis Colts,
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and c Y Hilton connecting early in camp,
Speaker 1: especially today, they caught three of the first four passes
Speaker 1: from Rivers. Hilton back from a minor hamstring issue, and
Speaker 1: Rivers was charted unofficially nine of thirteen and eleven on
Speaker 1: eleven sessions and Pete, I know how much you love
Speaker 1: that's stupid. Eleven on eleven stats. Yeah, I hate leven
Speaker 1: on eleven stats. Guys work on stuff and camp. You
Speaker 1: can't evaluate that stuff. Numbers are dumb. Didn't somebody used
Speaker 1: to chart the plays there all the time? He yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's dumb. I mean they don't mean anything. Go ask
Speaker 1: a quarterback what is charting? What you're charting? And they go,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I work on so much
Speaker 1: stuff in camp dumb. But Philip Rivers will have a
Speaker 1: good year for the Colts. Yeah, he's didna get protected
Speaker 1: for the first time about correct a decade. This is
Speaker 1: a tough guy. Yeah, blind. I've heard through the rumor
Speaker 1: mill that the kid Jonathan what's the kid from Wisconsin
Speaker 1: they drafted running back Convin Taylor looks really good, good
Speaker 1: on offense, so we got that. The Tennessee Titans Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill was absent from Monday's practice, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: He wasn't in practice, he was at He was absent
Speaker 1: from their two playoff victories to Wow. The other two
Speaker 1: quarterbacks got increased reps today. Corey Davis so wide receive
Speaker 1: or his first appearance today after starting camp on the pup.
Speaker 1: Are what's the Titans situation here? They are they sustainable?
Speaker 1: We've touched on that earlier on seventeen Jaguars. Do you
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win five games? They'll probably, they'll probably
Speaker 1: win seven. I actually think I get to define sustainable.
Speaker 1: And obviously when we say we're not really talking real money.
Speaker 1: We don't believe in gambling. On the show, it was
Speaker 1: a figure of speech to be entertainment purposes only. I
Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble. Uh, is like, like,
Speaker 1: tell me what sustainable was. They're gonna be the same
Speaker 1: thing they've been the last like four years. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be eight and eight, nine and seven fighting for the
Speaker 1: wild card and if they get during the playoffs, they
Speaker 1: can make your run because they're a physical, tough team.
Speaker 1: Coach by my career, that's what they're gonna be. Huh
Speaker 1: when they go six and tenn and not make the
Speaker 1: playoffs again, you want to like have dinner on the
Speaker 1: winning more than six years. You said they're gonna be
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I'll say they won't. No, I did
Speaker 1: not say that. I said they're gonna be eight and eight,
Speaker 1: nineties seven, fighting for a while for a spot like
Speaker 1: they do every year. Well, here's let's just say dinner.
Speaker 1: I'll take them not being in the playoffs. You take
Speaker 1: them being in Pete different, therefore not sustainable. You won't
Speaker 1: take that, know, you said six wins? I said, anytime
Speaker 1: do you want to say dinner on sixth win? It's
Speaker 1: not sustainable. Okay, Well, do well get to define sustainable.
Speaker 1: Are they going to the playoffs this year? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: mean they're fitting. They're a coin flip. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna for dinner. You got them in the playoffs and
Speaker 1: I got them out. Baby, we please translate to him
Speaker 1: that he said, I don't know. I got lost in
Speaker 1: my ears. I don't know the whole thing. Let's touch
Speaker 1: quickly on the Washington football team and quarterback Alex Smith
Speaker 1: cleared to practice. Ron Rivera said he's gonna be in
Speaker 1: the mix to be the starter this year, going up
Speaker 1: against Wayne and Haskins. What a story this? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I have a question whatever. And I was watching. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry because Pete will probably notice, but I was watching
Speaker 1: like him getting like congratulated his family, like spring champaign
Speaker 1: on him or wherever. Yeah, it looked like it looks
Speaker 1: like he has a drop dragging and he's dragging it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, but it looks like his drop foot. Because
Speaker 1: the image it did not that was not a good
Speaker 1: look and being cleared for football and being cleared for
Speaker 1: football are two different things. So I can't see him
Speaker 1: going on a field and running around and taking shots
Speaker 1: and everything else right now. Story your root for him?
Speaker 1: Good dude. Now, maybe, like Jalen Smith played a year
Speaker 1: with drop foot, the nerve wasn't all the way back
Speaker 1: the kid from but he had a brace on there
Speaker 1: that you can play with it, and so maybe that's
Speaker 1: the case. Yeah, I don't know, but that's something I
Speaker 1: would want to know. But it's regardless. The guy almost
Speaker 1: lost his leg literally they were they were having discussions
Speaker 1: in the o R. Do we cut his leg off
Speaker 1: or not? And now he's back on the football field
Speaker 1: of an NFL team. I take my hat off to him,
Speaker 1: as if you've ever you want to read a story,
Speaker 1: read the story about what they went through. That was amazing.
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Tony Pete, Hey, we're off and run him.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you nextually. See from Pete Prisco, Tony Vassili,
Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadrick. Thank you for listening and watching.
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.