WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 17

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<v Speaker 1>It is Monday, Auguste. This is Jack this Happy Hour

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<v Speaker 1>and now a guy we affectionately referred to as Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Commas Kryptonite, J Peace Shadrick, Oh, and welcome in. Here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday, presented

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<v Speaker 1>by Jet Home Loans, J P. Shadrick and the triumphant

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<v Speaker 1>return of Pete Priscoe and Tony BASSELLI, gentlemen, great to

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<v Speaker 1>be back with you. Pete, what's going on? I'm back?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for another season as weird as it's been. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, God, I can't even go to training care

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<v Speaker 1>and are you ready for another beat down as you

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<v Speaker 1>get as it was like last season on Every Monday

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<v Speaker 1>Night where I dominated you and all takes. Talking to

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<v Speaker 1>people before this show came out, and they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how I use you and they feel sorry for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they wonder how a little guy can beat up

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<v Speaker 1>on such a big man. Well, this is how we

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<v Speaker 1>know you're lying. No one ever looked at you and

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<v Speaker 1>said little big head, big big body, big belly. Wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Your height is your height, the nerve. Look at this,

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<v Speaker 1>look at my face. It's all drawn. Everything that's just

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<v Speaker 1>because you have a tan. Right now, you have the

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<v Speaker 1>South Florida Tan, the beaches right around the corner. People here,

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<v Speaker 1>though JP looks like he's tan. Well. I have been

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<v Speaker 1>out in the sun. I mean I have been to

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<v Speaker 1>practice unlike you too, the last few days. So you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice to be outside, get some sun. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>some sun, you know, the outside period. Since we were

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<v Speaker 1>imprisoned for like four months. Good point, excellent point, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been opened a little longer around here. I think down

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<v Speaker 1>than Ben down in South is that right? Absolutely? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, the beach is great and it's

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<v Speaker 1>open all you need. And here's what we're getting to

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<v Speaker 1>tonight on the program. Of course, the triumphant return of

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<v Speaker 1>Pete and Tony. Throughout the evening. I'm sure they'll bash

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<v Speaker 1>on each other as they always do. First day in

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<v Speaker 1>full pads. Today, defensive line has a revolving door they've

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<v Speaker 1>installed at t I a bank field for that meeting

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<v Speaker 1>room the last couple of weeks. We'll get into all

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<v Speaker 1>the changes there and what it means moving ahead, how

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<v Speaker 1>to establish an offensive identity with no preseason games, only

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen padded practices. Thirteen After today, we'll get to some

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<v Speaker 1>social media questions that will go around the National Football

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<v Speaker 1>League as well. Let's start with the strangest of training

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<v Speaker 1>camps and preseason. Of course, since we have spoken last time,

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<v Speaker 1>the league has canceled all preseason games. There are only

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen padded practices. If you ask Doug Moron, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>really eleven full padded practices. There's a ramp up period.

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<v Speaker 1>Even with the pads on only ninety minutes today, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>expand a little bit tomorrow in the next couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>so time is limited, and it's it's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>difficult Tony to to evaluate talent in eleven padded practice. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, it makes no sense to me. You

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<v Speaker 1>have basically, what is it, four weeks before opening day,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have eleven practices over four weeks with

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<v Speaker 1>no preseason games. It doesn't seem like enough number. Like listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was there and other guys that are veterans

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<v Speaker 1>in this NFL, like you're fine, like give me like

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<v Speaker 1>the ten eleven practices. I'm ready to go, um and

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<v Speaker 1>I can go play. But this is a young football

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<v Speaker 1>team and young guys need reps, and especially you had

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<v Speaker 1>no offseason, no t a s. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is really a recipe for really sloppy football and

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<v Speaker 1>a real disadvantage for the young teams in this league

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<v Speaker 1>because eleven practices is not enough. And I feel sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone who's down the roster right now that's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make the last five spots on the team, because

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<v Speaker 1>how do you prove yourself and eleven paddent practices, no

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<v Speaker 1>preseason games, no chance to evaluate um guys going against

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<v Speaker 1>opponents in game situations, full speed. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very tough task. I think that the default position it

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<v Speaker 1>will be for gms and head coaches to go with

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<v Speaker 1>guys that were on the team last year and they're

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with. I think it's you're not You're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>less um unrestricted free agents. I think you can see

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<v Speaker 1>some guys that are late round draft picks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having a harder time to make the team. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they end up on practice squad, But I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea why they landed on eleven real padded practices

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<v Speaker 1>when you have this much time before the first game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things. I talked to Cam Jordan's from

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints today said it was great to get out

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<v Speaker 1>there and hit people and stuff. He goes, talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me in about five more days, and I'll be glad

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<v Speaker 1>that we only have a few of them. Right, That's

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<v Speaker 1>the way it is. But here's the other thing, Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me if you agree with this. Nobody or

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<v Speaker 1>teams are gonna tackle. But a few teams tackle, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and keep practice you almost have to tackle a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think early in the season there's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of big plays and broken plays because nobody's tackling

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<v Speaker 1>and you have so much limited time to prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>the angles speed of the game tackling. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot of big plays early in the season.

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<v Speaker 1>I get to be sloppy, and I actually worry about injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think one thing that is discounted, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have no science or proof to like back up

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<v Speaker 1>this claim, but I think I think training camp hardens

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<v Speaker 1>the body. I think there's a callust that happens. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's there's a toughness that you get ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season and you're not gonna have that. I

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<v Speaker 1>would not be surprised if you see soft tissue injury injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>And also because you're not used to the speed of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and guys going full speed, you're out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happens when you're out of control, you get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where injuries happened. So I hope I'm wrong. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you never want to see anyone get hurt, but sloppy

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<v Speaker 1>football usually learns the injuries that are unnecessary and as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, probably leading some big plays. Let's hope. I

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it doesn't happen, but we're gonna go. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just look at the last ten years, where

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<v Speaker 1>we went from teams having training camps with two days

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<v Speaker 1>and hitting and pounding and everything, the slow evolution through

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<v Speaker 1>the cb A being renegotiated where you have limited padded

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<v Speaker 1>practices because the head of injury concerns and everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>and where that went um all the way now to

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<v Speaker 1>a pandemic um shortened offseason, no preseason, to really basically

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<v Speaker 1>no real football as far as preparing for the regular

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<v Speaker 1>season and the speed and the intensity that happens on

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<v Speaker 1>a football field. It's gonna be fascinating to see how

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<v Speaker 1>this thing goes. And you know, though NFL players and

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<v Speaker 1>coaches are resilient, you know, that they move on. Guy

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<v Speaker 1>gets hurt, they kicked him to the curb, and they

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<v Speaker 1>play on. It's the same type of situation. I what

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<v Speaker 1>about this theory, Tony, that guys are gonna be more

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<v Speaker 1>rest because they haven't had all the work in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season. Remember there used to be that theory that

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<v Speaker 1>guys got injury injuries because they worked too much on

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<v Speaker 1>the field these days than they used to do. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's both sides. We don't behaving at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's you have to be Let's make sure we

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<v Speaker 1>differentiate between these arguments, because what Pete you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>The argument is that there's no real off season anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>The guys are working out year round and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>where you see uh soft tissue and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>these injuries that you haven't seen in the past. My

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<v Speaker 1>point is, I don't think you've seen a reduction of

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<v Speaker 1>serious injuries since the c b A. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Someone has to have information and then UH

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<v Speaker 1>study and has the statistics or in the day to

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<v Speaker 1>to back this up one way or another. But the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling I get it's not like we've seen a lessening

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<v Speaker 1>of serious injuries since they went to this format of

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<v Speaker 1>less hitting in camp and less hitting during the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see that at all. I don't think they've

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<v Speaker 1>gone down, uh tremendously since when I was playing. When

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<v Speaker 1>you beat the heck out at each other and training

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<v Speaker 1>can't getting ready for the season. So, um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>JP is a little bit right. You can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>set this argument how you want to fit your narrative. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but Pete, to your point, guys getting six months off basically,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even longer, eight months off from doing anything football

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<v Speaker 1>wise outside of lifting weights. Will there will we see

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<v Speaker 1>less soft tissue injuries? Possibly because of it. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>weirdest It's gonna be the weirdest season. But again, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the alternative? Don't play? Let's play? Well, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the big ten in the pack twelve, Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you do. You just don't play. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole another issue. I can't watch Arizona State when the

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<v Speaker 1>national chance but this was their year of all years. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the great thing is I love about these you know schools,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll just go off on a tangent real quick

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<v Speaker 1>and you pull me back. In JP. My favorite is

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<v Speaker 1>the big, big ten canceling football, but we're gonna have camp,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna kids on campus to go to school. That

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense. Let's bring a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>kids back to campus and we're not gonna test. We

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<v Speaker 1>feel okay about the safety of those kids. But the

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<v Speaker 1>football players who were going to test constantly and have

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<v Speaker 1>medical supervision and people watching over them, they can't play.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about hypocritical. Just takes no sense at all.

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<v Speaker 1>At least the PAC twelve canceled, like usc in plays

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<v Speaker 1>like that canceled, and the in person school at all.

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<v Speaker 1>At least they were consistent, but consistent. Here's the other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the Big ten and the PAC twelve. Oh, we're playing

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<v Speaker 1>the spring. We care so much about the safety of

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<v Speaker 1>the players, so let them play seasons over the eight months. Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>It's so stupid. It's like, listen, I used to hate

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC, and you know, I obviously became a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the SEC because my son playing in Florida State.

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<v Speaker 1>But I listen, I'm a Southern guy. Now, go SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>Go Obama, go Gators, let's go. I mean, they play football,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're ready to roll. Um. I have to root

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<v Speaker 1>for the Gators now. My daughter's going there. I take

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<v Speaker 1>her to school to tomorrow. Um, and so she goes.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a Gator now, so I'm just full Southern. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you let her go to Gainesville? It's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good school. I don't know if you realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's a really good school. You're the all

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<v Speaker 1>time in Florida ripper. Your letter go to Gainesville. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>never never be the same. It's amazing what you know

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<v Speaker 1>in state tuition does You're darn right. It's all about

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<v Speaker 1>the dollars. That's all about the dollars. You know. We

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned all these possibility of soft tissue. Once the season starts,

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<v Speaker 1>some injuries popping up in this and that. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>DAGs are already beat up a little bit, guys, with

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<v Speaker 1>all the changes over the last few days. We'll go

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<v Speaker 1>deep into the defensive line a little bit later in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. But just the last couple of days. Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver fracture of foot, a bone in his foot, just

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<v Speaker 1>running yesterday, and he'll have surgery. He's done Quincy Williams

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<v Speaker 1>with a core muscle issue. He had surgery. It went well.

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney Gunt, we know that story. And then large a Aworda.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't really plan for that. Then Miles Jack was

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<v Speaker 1>sick today. That's not expected to be long term. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on right now for a football

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<v Speaker 1>team that hasn't been in pads until today, Tony, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Happy. Well, boy, you hold your breath when

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<v Speaker 1>you hear guys sick nowadays, don't you. I mean, immediately

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<v Speaker 1>you go down to the lot worst case possible scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>They said us not COVID related though, right that that's good,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but but it brings up the whole issue

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<v Speaker 1>we right now because of the training camp and you think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, guys are being smart and everything else, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have traditional injuries and you know a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more on the Jaguars, and you would like this early

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<v Speaker 1>basically you've done nothing outside of one padded practice. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't even get into the fact that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to manage this COVID thing throughout the year

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<v Speaker 1>and the wild changes that you could have at any

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<v Speaker 1>moment because of a guy testing positive, even if he's asymptomatic. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a tough situation. I mean, Josh, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at two guys last year that they really

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<v Speaker 1>thought they got good value for in the draft. And

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<v Speaker 1>Quincy Williams and Josh Oliver. Josh Oliver pretty much missed

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<v Speaker 1>all last year, was a non factor completely. Quincy Williams

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<v Speaker 1>struggled in the transition to play that will linebacker as

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie. But I think you're hoping for both of

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<v Speaker 1>those to be have have impactful roles. Quincy Williams for

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<v Speaker 1>sure on special teams as a backup will linebacker. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to player you thought he you were hoping

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<v Speaker 1>he'd have an impact on that defense and especially teams,

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<v Speaker 1>being a core team player probably. And Josh Oliver it's

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<v Speaker 1>a tight end position that boy, they haven't got right

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. You know, you got Tyler Iffort

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<v Speaker 1>in the off season. Um, you're hoping that for like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he hasn't been healthy for very much of

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<v Speaker 1>his career at all. Uh he was last year. You

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<v Speaker 1>hope you can you know, build on that. But Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver is the guy they thought could stretch the field,

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<v Speaker 1>work the middle of the field, athletic tight end. And

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<v Speaker 1>this will be the second year in the row in

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<v Speaker 1>a row in his young career. You're gonna get nothing

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<v Speaker 1>out of him. You wonder, Tony, if a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>that's injury playing. You hate to say that, but when

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<v Speaker 1>a guy has back to back injuries two years in

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<v Speaker 1>a row, it's not a good way to start your career.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've seen guys come into the league injured, injured, injured, injured,

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<v Speaker 1>and it never gets going for him. I hope that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the case. But he had surgery on the foot.

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<v Speaker 1>That does that sounds like a was it Liz Frank?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what it was? They didn't say. They said

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<v Speaker 1>a bone in the foot, that's all they said. That

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<v Speaker 1>Usually that sounds like Liz Frank. But he was in

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<v Speaker 1>non contact just running down the field. That's two years

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<v Speaker 1>in the row, isn't that two non contact injuries. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a hamstring that was bad. That bad hamstring last

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<v Speaker 1>year affected him all year. I mean, he really never

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<v Speaker 1>got in the field and then try to come back

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<v Speaker 1>and had some other injury late in the year that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he played one or two games, and now

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<v Speaker 1>you have a non contact injury to the foot. So

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<v Speaker 1>you just feel for the guy. It's not like he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get hurt. I think a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>fans and people go he's a bomb, he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no good. You know, I'm not saying that. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying you, But that's the moniker that get hung

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<v Speaker 1>around guy's next. I'm not saying you. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>and I hate it for a guy like Josh Oliver

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<v Speaker 1>because trust me, there's no one more upset than Josh

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I wanted to get out there and wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to participate. But doesn't it sound like if he's a

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<v Speaker 1>non contact injury running surgery that it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>Liz Frank. And I'm not I don't know that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not playing doctor like I used to do in

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<v Speaker 1>that building. But I'm gonna maybe I am. You are

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<v Speaker 1>you actually are playing Dr Pete right now? You're actually

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<v Speaker 1>saying he has a Liz Frank. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he has what it sounds like. One No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you just said. You literally just I said

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a Liz Frank. It's very unprofessional. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think and saying, hey, I used to do that

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<v Speaker 1>walk up with Coughood every day. But sell he's hurt, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a bad leg. Right? Are you a doctor? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a national um on the national you know media front.

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<v Speaker 1>I expect more out of you, Frankly, I didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>he had a list, frank it said it sounds like one.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you miss ethics. You've been around football long enough

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<v Speaker 1>that a guy's running and non contact injury and their surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like a loose Frank. Let's come back. In

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<v Speaker 1>my health? Have I taken my ability to to play?

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<v Speaker 1>Or my ability to do my job? Have I taken

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff for granted? You know? Am I just

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<v Speaker 1>you know looking at that as you know, Hey, I'm invincible. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of times we talked about with

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<v Speaker 1>our faith, you know, how how this game can be

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<v Speaker 1>taken away from you at any moment for any of us. Um?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so how do we how do we want

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<v Speaker 1>to approach it. Think when things like this occur at

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<v Speaker 1>uh at this level, you know, hey, is he gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to come back, is he gonna play? Is

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<v Speaker 1>he gonna be part of the team. Is a team

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep them? There's a lot a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>things that get involved that. Um, I think we as

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<v Speaker 1>players and coaches, no, and and that's where we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to do a good job of continuing that support. Head

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<v Speaker 1>coach Doug Morone discussing Rodney Gunter and he is on

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<v Speaker 1>the reserve retired list after he announced yesterday that he

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<v Speaker 1>has an enlarged a awarda that you know, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>quite qualified for surgery yet, but it's a risky proposition

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<v Speaker 1>for him to play football. And he announced that yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>you had another change from this Jaguars defensive line. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to Jaguars at Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Tony Vaselli,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Prisco for the first time in twenty and it's

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunate news for a gun to. The Jaguars have offered

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<v Speaker 1>him an off field role of some kind. He has

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<v Speaker 1>not accepted. It's a little early in the game and

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<v Speaker 1>but the offer is out there. At least guys, this

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<v Speaker 1>is another change for a defensive line that, as we've

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<v Speaker 1>just touched on a moment, Ago, has had so many

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<v Speaker 1>changes already before even getting two padded practices. Pete, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of moving parts so far. You really feel

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for the kid. I mean, obviously this is a

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<v Speaker 1>situation that's very very serious. Uh. You know, you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about football, but let's also talk about life here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that he needs to fix and correct

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<v Speaker 1>for his health. Now, in a normal situation with COVID

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<v Speaker 1>not being around, he comes in and does it physical right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they find that and they probably don't sign him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he finds out about it earlier. But when did

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<v Speaker 1>they give him the physical? That's the question. Well then,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they still get physical They still got physicals

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<v Speaker 1>before they signed free agents. I mean it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was just where you got the physical? Act did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>But was it your own doctors who did the physical?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So you're you're saying the

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<v Speaker 1>game the situation his own doctors. Like I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's they find it in a different situation. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think the heart went went bad between the

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<v Speaker 1>time he signed at the time he showed up for camp. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but again, I'm like, much like your Liz frank Like diagnosis,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to like, I don't know what goes

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<v Speaker 1>into the typical free agent physical. I would expect him

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<v Speaker 1>to do it full. If I'm gonna guarantee a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I think ten and half million ours guaranteed. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing a head to toe full evaluation of headheart joints,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, muscles, everything, everything. And the question is is

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<v Speaker 1>did the Jaguars do that? That's that's the point. That's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what I just said. No, you said, if you

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<v Speaker 1>would have been here, would it have been? Would it

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<v Speaker 1>have happened? I don't know that. The question is I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need But the question should be, isn't a standard

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<v Speaker 1>protocol regardless of where you get that physical? That part

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<v Speaker 1>of the specs of the physical per se, Like, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the order. The order is we want a full physical,

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<v Speaker 1>which includes a heart work up. But he say, now

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta remember too, Rodney is from Ronney Gunters, from

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<v Speaker 1>like central Florida area. So I believe if I remember right,

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<v Speaker 1>I interviewed him right after and he was either in

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<v Speaker 1>town for it or was on the way to town

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<v Speaker 1>for it. So I don't think it was done um

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<v Speaker 1>on his own. I think the Jaguars were involved in this.

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<v Speaker 1>And do we know how do you miss that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well before we we don't know, Pete. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is the long story short is but how

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<v Speaker 1>did they diagnose it? Did he? Was he having issues

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<v Speaker 1>health issues that led to this? Is? Like? What was

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<v Speaker 1>there some event that said, hey, we need to check

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<v Speaker 1>your heart because it could be this. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>the other question. But it's I will say, and not

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<v Speaker 1>knowing and so not you know, pointing the finger or

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<v Speaker 1>like saying anything or anyone's at fault. Maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>just one of those bad luck situations. Um, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought that a full cardiac work up would

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of a physical for a free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe I'm wrong, I have I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming a lot of stuff here, But but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say that did you have it? Did you have physicals

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<v Speaker 1>when you were playing for the team? Did you have

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<v Speaker 1>full physicals every year? Yeah? Yeah, I guess we did,

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<v Speaker 1>I think and I know I did. I didn't e

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<v Speaker 1>KG when e K G have caught that? The question,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I don't either, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not like that's why I'm very careful. I'm not pointing

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<v Speaker 1>to blame. I'm not saying it's anyway. It's no. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's tragic that I feel terrible for Rodney gut

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<v Speaker 1>Gut gunter is because he can't play the game that

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<v Speaker 1>he loves and the fact that you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the silver lining is is he signed at least a

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<v Speaker 1>significant deal, so there's a financial Um, I guess, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. But if it's guaranteed, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you love that. Typically those are guaranteed for injury. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, unless they can say it's not like he's

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<v Speaker 1>retiring just to retire, he's retiring medical reasons. I'd assume

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<v Speaker 1>it's all guaranteed. I don't know any I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>speculating a lot, but I my guess is that in

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<v Speaker 1>all future physicals that this is something that the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 1>will probably check players coming in. And maybe they did

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<v Speaker 1>and they just missed it. Maybe it was um undiagnosed

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<v Speaker 1>to me. One of the things that we did learn

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<v Speaker 1>is that he does not qualify for the surgery because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not quite enlarged enough. UM, so maybe that caused

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it to go undiagnosed or the test missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knows, but it's just terrible. You feel

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<v Speaker 1>awful for him, Yeah, that he's having to go through this. UM.

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 1>You feel awful for the Jaguars or as an organization

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>because they're counting on him, um to help be a

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<v Speaker 1>uh defensive lignment, that we will get them more fortified

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<v Speaker 1>against the run, which they were very pooroust last year

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and and uh struggled as we as well chronicled UM.

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And so it's it's it's not good for anybody, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it caught all of us by surprise, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure in the future will learn a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about how this came about, if there was an

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<v Speaker 1>event or something, and it would be fascinating to talk

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>if you could, ever I'm not. I'm sure no one

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>wants to talk about it right now, but at some

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<v Speaker 1>point talk to either the Jaguars team doctors or a

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>doctors from another NFL team. That's what you should be doing, Pete,

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 1>your national guy. I called some other doctors around the

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 1>league and say, hey, is this something that you would

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<v Speaker 1>typically check for during a free agent physical. I mean

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a legitimate question, and I will check into

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<v Speaker 1>it because I think you have to check the heart.

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>How could you not, Tony? Yeah, I listen, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what. I want you to get a body scan,

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<v Speaker 1>a body scan like like like a CT scan of

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<v Speaker 1>your body, look at your organs and stuff and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're healthy. It's really technically sound, Pete. Let me

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>look at your organs and stuff. You know, you drink

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the solution and they check out your organs. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what that is. So I think if I remember, like

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<v Speaker 1>I had, remember the combine, you have MRIs in your

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<v Speaker 1>back and a bunch of different parts of your body,

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>your neck, your head and all that kind of stuff,

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably Houston as a free agent or

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<v Speaker 1>expansion whatever you were. The dumping they did of you

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<v Speaker 1>when you went there, Did you do a physical? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what it was, so listen they yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. I mean I did something. I remember

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>my soul. I was so close to post off of

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>my shoulder. They couldn't really do a good look at

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>my shoulder, which I'm sure they wish they could have

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>done all over again. Um post looking back. But I

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>remember being at the hospital doing stuff. I don't remember

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>the extent of it. I'm being honest with your whole body.

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>And they started the top, they would have stopped because

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>they was so there was another but air up there.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first one. Was good? That was stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it? Dumping? Yeah? Great, a great a dumping from

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 1>the look. Well, this adds to the list of changes

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>on the defensive line over the last couple of weeks

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>have come hot and heavy for the Jags and all

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 1>different levels. Laurenti McCrae and al Wood's both opt out.

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>McCrae was kind of the third option as a run in,

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>but he's more of a special teams player. He had

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<v Speaker 1>no impact on the defensive mind right, but he's roosted

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>as a defensive end. That's the point. Dante Bus Russell,

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>who was that a lot of last year or an

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.479
<v Speaker 1>active a lot of last year. He's on injured reserve,

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<v Speaker 1>Bryan Price, Rodney Gunter as we mentioned, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>see on the screen there gotsus read Davis Tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 1>today Timmy Journey and joined the team, a guy who's

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>been around the league for a few years. Welcome to

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville first day in Pad's first day on the field

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>for Journey again. Um, and we'll see what what he

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>can bring on the interior this. I mean, listen, here's

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things. And you look at that list,

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>ye have Adam got this that came from Denver blew

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>out a knee. You know, he's kind of on a

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>prove it deal. And see if his knees back and

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, and what he can do, Um post a

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<v Speaker 1>c reconstruction. Timmy journins a guy like if you're literally

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<v Speaker 1>picking up guys off the street, like during camp. There's

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a reason. Now, Timmy Journey was an outstanding player at

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>his peak, me a really good player. Now the question

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<v Speaker 1>is is what does he have left in the tank?

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Obviously a bunch of teams didn't think very much because

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<v Speaker 1>no one else signed him. Wasn't he Pete close to

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>signing in Houston? He didn't. He was asked about that

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<v Speaker 1>today and he didn't have a lot to say about it.

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>He didn't. He kind of about that. I don't know

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>what that happened there, but he was close to signing

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and Houston. And look, he's a decent player when he's

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<v Speaker 1>on the field. He's not gonna and the player and

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>thirty plays the game type of guy right now, and yeah,

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>he's they're gonna have the Hamilton has to play. He

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a he has to be a factor

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Well, I'll say the biggest thing that has

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<v Speaker 1>to happen now and not that it didn't before, but

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<v Speaker 1>David Bryant has to be a stud like he's out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're starting three technique and he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be productive, and he's gotta be good against the run,

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and he's got to be like a force, like like

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>he's the guy like you're going in you start an

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>opening day, Give me the four three four, I would say, Avery,

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>that knows Tavin at three. I put Josh at the

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<v Speaker 1>big end, and I think in go Oi will be signed.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I think so listen, first of all, he

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>fires his agent. Now he's like, there's the reason he

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>fired his agent. He should have fired his getting bad advice. Secondly,

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>he's sitting there right now. Nobody is going to pay him.

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.479
<v Speaker 1>Like right now, if you would be interesting, I'll give

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you one. You wonder what to be really interesting? If

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<v Speaker 1>the Jaguar said we're taking the tag off you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>would anyone pay him eighteen million dollars to play? Right end?

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>For me, they're not paying Clowney eighteen millions? Well, they played,

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the Falcons paid Fouler fifteen it okay, but that's my point.

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<v Speaker 1>Feller also had thirteen sacks last year. Correct, that's my question.

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>A question, Pete, would anyone pay in gon Way right

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<v Speaker 1>now if the jag Wars lifted the tag eighteen million

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>dollars a deal that averages eighteen yeah, no, and the

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>jag Wires offered him that and so but my point

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<v Speaker 1>is he's the franchise at seventeen point nine. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a goa, I'm signing right now me too, because no,

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>absolutely no question about it. I don't think he's getting

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<v Speaker 1>that money anywhere else. So that's why. And listen, Yahn's

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<v Speaker 1>a smart dude. Um, he played it out. Thought he

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>could get out of here. I thought he could get

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a better deal. Um. I think he was probably getting

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<v Speaker 1>some bad advice from his agent based on the market

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<v Speaker 1>and what was out there. I mean, Clowney is in

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<v Speaker 1>a similar situation. I mean, it's shocking to me that

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<v Speaker 1>Clowney cannot get signed now. I think ultimately he was

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<v Speaker 1>asking for too much money too. But right now he's

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<v Speaker 1>an impact player, though he has been when he's been

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, flowny, impactful player. He doesn't wrutch the past.

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<v Speaker 1>We had three nap sacks last year. Yeah, but I

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>think he's disruptive. You watch him on tape. Yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't pay you eighteen nineteen million dollars either. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what does he get thirteen to fifteen right now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I give I'd give him a thirteen prove it deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, get some incentives in it. You gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>ten double digit sacks, which he's never had. I'll give

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>him more money. But you're right, I think a go

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<v Speaker 1>will be there, no question about it. Let's come back.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've all also seen him work every day. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>discussing rookie wide receiver love this Chris chin Al junior

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<v Speaker 1>high praise for the rookie out of Colorado picked in

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<v Speaker 1>the second round. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. J P.

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<v Speaker 1>Shadrick of pe Crisco and Tony was Sally for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in will be with you each and every

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<v Speaker 1>Monday throughout the regular season and hopefully beyond for this

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars team. But you know, I was walking in camp

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<v Speaker 1>the other day a couple of days ago, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time I had been somewhat close. We're

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<v Speaker 1>still distanced, of course, from the players, and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere near them, but there are certain places on

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the practice field where they run nearer

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<v Speaker 1>you than others. And that was my first up close

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<v Speaker 1>look at this guy. And I think he's listed six one,

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<v Speaker 1>two twenty seven. He is all of that pete and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to be rock solid this guy. That's big praise.

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<v Speaker 1>When Keenan's talking names like that, throwing those guys really

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<v Speaker 1>big brace and when you look at his body, he

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<v Speaker 1>looks like those guys. He's a big physical guy. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know he runs as well as Andre Johnson did,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will say this, the one thing that held

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<v Speaker 1>him back in college was the only thing that held

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<v Speaker 1>the bank college was health. He went on the field

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. When he's on the field, he was

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<v Speaker 1>when he was on the field as a productive player,

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<v Speaker 1>big physical, strong, could go get the ball. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they might have a steel on him because if he

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<v Speaker 1>stays on the field, they need that big physical presence there.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes a lot of sense. And hear Keenan say

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<v Speaker 1>that he might want to slow it down just just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. He only meant, he only meant by

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<v Speaker 1>the body type in this style. That's all. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, i'd agree you know what he said, Pete.

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<v Speaker 1>I would add that Keenan probably needs to get some

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<v Speaker 1>coloring on that beard, a little bit of gray. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was thinking. Who is that old guy got right? Um? Yeah, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go back this and all uh the year

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<v Speaker 1>before he came out. I mean he was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most powerful receivers at all college football,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people say, if you have come out,

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<v Speaker 1>then he had been maybe a top fifteen pick. He

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<v Speaker 1>had the what the sports turney of injury is going

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<v Speaker 1>his last year in Colorado limited. His explosiveness was still good,

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<v Speaker 1>was still a productive player, but it also heard him

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<v Speaker 1>as he's trying to get ready for the Combine, so

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<v Speaker 1>he really never saw the speed and explosiveness that he has.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks healthy, he looks good out there. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's w It's too early to start making comparisons de

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Johnson or Ant kom Bolden, both great players, border

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<v Speaker 1>line hall of famers, maybe hall of famers. It just depends. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But boy, keen need have seen a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been around a lot of really good receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the one thing I will say about Keenan he

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<v Speaker 1>does not throw around compliments um that easily. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he is a guy who speaks in hyperbole

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<v Speaker 1>and is always pumping guys up a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>than they need to be. So UM, I trust Keen

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a heck of a receiver coach and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and that's a good sign. And if listen, if

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<v Speaker 1>Snal can even live up to that praise, it's a win. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has done a really good job with

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<v Speaker 1>the receivers. I think he's a good coach. Eventually he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be an offensive coordinator. Who knows, maybe down the

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<v Speaker 1>road he could be a head coach. But but he's

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<v Speaker 1>done a really good job with that group. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look at d J. Chark. I mean he took big

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<v Speaker 1>strides last year and I think Keaton has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it. I always say this, Keenan was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best route runners I've ever seen in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Right, Bruce Isaac Bruce was one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but Keenan was right there with him. He was special.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a great thing to have if you're a receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to have that guy teach you. No

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<v Speaker 1>doubt about that, and hopefully it'll pay off for Jay Gruden,

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<v Speaker 1>new offensive coordinator for the Jacksonville Jaguars, new offense, second

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<v Speaker 1>year quarterback and Gardner Minshew. They've met virtually over the

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<v Speaker 1>off season program, but finally they're on the field together.

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<v Speaker 1>What does Gruden think of his signal caller in the huddle. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've mainly, like I said, we're starting installed and meeting

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<v Speaker 1>potatoes of our offense. And Garter has been great. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had a good off season. We had the virtual

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<v Speaker 1>off season, so we got a little jump start on

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<v Speaker 1>it um and then he carried over until when we

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<v Speaker 1>came back and started meeting here recently. So we got

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<v Speaker 1>a long way to go. Yeah, a long way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>He said. This offense is in diapers still the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot left to be installed and learned. But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what the clock's taking a little bit opening

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<v Speaker 1>day and what a thirteen padded practices between now an

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<v Speaker 1>opening day? Uh, that's a lot to get done, Peter

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<v Speaker 1>in a short amount of time. A new offense, a

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<v Speaker 1>young quarterback, a young team overall. How challenging will this

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<v Speaker 1>be for j Gruden? Well, I think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>really challenging because clearly you want to see on the

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<v Speaker 1>field work in in you know, May and and you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get that. So it will set the offense back

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And when you're young, offense is set

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<v Speaker 1>it back even more, particularly the young quarterback. But Tony

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<v Speaker 1>could speak to that better than I have. Tony. You

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<v Speaker 1>just say you were starting a season and you had

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<v Speaker 1>twenty days days, not just padded practices to get everything

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<v Speaker 1>in as a young offense, can you get it in?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you asking me as a veteran that's about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>it's about fifteen days more than I might need. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But again to your point, I'm talking about from a

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of the veteran who's been in an offense for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, because you understand that, you understand the

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<v Speaker 1>concepts and what you're doing and everything else. The question

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<v Speaker 1>I have, because I agree with you, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it is enough time to get everything you want in

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<v Speaker 1>with a brand new offense with a young quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>young skilled position. You're counting he's talking about some not

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna count him Djin Shark, young player. Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you got your offensive line, some young players there,

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<v Speaker 1>some veterans good there. I guess uh. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's difficult to get everything in. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the traditional install period, especially when you

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<v Speaker 1>have a new coaching staff, new offensive coordinator, UM is

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<v Speaker 1>typically you you want to install the things three times.

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<v Speaker 1>You install them at the beginning O t A S.

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<v Speaker 1>You install them again, uh when you're on the field stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>so around your mini camp, and then you install the

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<v Speaker 1>third time for training camp. And so you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go through it multiple times to get everything in and

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<v Speaker 1>to get everyone comfortable with the language and the philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>and the nuances of the offense. Um. Everything has been virtual.

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<v Speaker 1>So they did the one install over zoom. I worry

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<v Speaker 1>about what was the attention span of guys over zoom.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know about you. I mean I've

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<v Speaker 1>been living in this virtual world that I'm doing web

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<v Speaker 1>exits for work and everything else. And unless you're really disciplined,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to have your mind drift and looking at

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<v Speaker 1>your computer and your phone and doing different things because

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to monitor. It's not like you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting together. UM. And so I think, how much do

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<v Speaker 1>guys uh pick up? How much? How much gets absorbed?

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<v Speaker 1>There would be interesting to really you know, first time

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<v Speaker 1>installed in person is right now, and I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>j grew and you have the parent path. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you really have to decide, Okay, what what portion? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we only put eighty percent of the offense and compared

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<v Speaker 1>to what we do in the past because of the

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<v Speaker 1>young quarterback and the kind of the pandemic situation. We

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<v Speaker 1>fired ourselves in Sonny the first year, you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>all came together. Well, if you had to be in

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<v Speaker 1>this same same type of same type of situations, how

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<v Speaker 1>much do the offense could you have put in? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that's my guess. It's a wild guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look at that first year when we were

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<v Speaker 1>putting everything new in UM and now was all new players,

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<v Speaker 1>all new coaches. At least you have some familiarity with

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<v Speaker 1>guys that you were here last year, so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>quite as dire. But I mean, I look at the

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<v Speaker 1>multiple o t as we had, many camps we had,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we went to training camp July six July.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that. Let that settle in for all you listening.

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<v Speaker 1>That was six weeks ago. And so yeah, well something

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<v Speaker 1>you flew home on a private jet, didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>whole training. Yeah, that's you still have some guys, some

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<v Speaker 1>guys who work in this building now in the building

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<v Speaker 1>didn't show up. You remember that's a different that's the

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<v Speaker 1>name of name Logan. He showed up July eleven. But still,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean so, but think about and we had five

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<v Speaker 1>preseason games. I mean, think how much time we have

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<v Speaker 1>the insult no preseason little. I mean, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you can get it all in. I would Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the question. There's some veterans. I would say, do

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<v Speaker 1>you point is it a way? Is there a way

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<v Speaker 1>to point the install toward the early opponents in the season,

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<v Speaker 1>or is it installed totally separate from that kind of thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you crafted to the first two or

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks upon it? I think that's dangerous because you

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<v Speaker 1>have to put the concepts and it's the philosophy like

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<v Speaker 1>who you are you're gonna be good at. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure that out as a coaching step, like not

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<v Speaker 1>all players can do all things. Like I'm of the

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<v Speaker 1>opinion that Leondard, for net, is a better back out

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<v Speaker 1>of the eye then single back. I think he's run

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<v Speaker 1>better and so that determines like what you want to do. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting because I think Gardner mints you is better

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<v Speaker 1>at a shotgun ben underneath, And so you have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out your philosophy of what guys can do, like

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<v Speaker 1>what can so don't do he's a rookie, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>is he comfortable? Is he good at running underneath routes?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he an outside guy? Come back? Is he? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and you have to learn that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. And so I think the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do is you have to be figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what your identity is. And the danger is is like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just start game planning for indeed, because guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what happens after indeed? You have to play

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<v Speaker 1>someone else? What the Texans? Whoever we play? The second

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<v Speaker 1>we can see Titans, Tony, do you have ever get

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<v Speaker 1>to say you have the offense? And do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>get to at some point during the season. Um, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great question. I would guess. No, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Gruden put everything in this year. That's my sense, um,

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<v Speaker 1>But only he knows that. Let's come back in a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll stay on offense and get to the offensive blind

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at the Home studio. He is in his home studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony is in an undisclosed location. That's how I do it,

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<v Speaker 1>undisclosed location. CIA, where are you? No, it's it's private.

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<v Speaker 1>These are what do they call those like ci ci

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<v Speaker 1>A black sites or where like they hide people out

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<v Speaker 1>at that they're called JP they call that right, blink twice.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in Milwaukee, Tony, what do they call those

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<v Speaker 1>like like undisclosed sites? Right? The CIA is like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not at liberty to say, Tony, Tony, you have you

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<v Speaker 1>traveled at all on a plane during the pandemic? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Three uh three times? Yeah, he's I mean it stinks.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to wear a mask the whole time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like that's you know, so you know you know the

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<v Speaker 1>way around it. I mean I wear it. I'd wear

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<v Speaker 1>it the entire time. But the only time you can

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<v Speaker 1>take it off is like if you you're eating or drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I take long drinks of water because it

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<v Speaker 1>just feels good to he just eats the whole flight

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<v Speaker 1>and why I'm so fat? But yeah, have you been

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<v Speaker 1>in New York? No? No, I I heard it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a ghost down. Yeah, I was in I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the l A actually, uh, southern Orange County. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you down by my dad's house, I was

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<v Speaker 1>an Orange guy. It felt no different than any other time. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>The beaches were packed and you know, very few people

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<v Speaker 1>on the beach are wearing masks. And we didn't go out,

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<v Speaker 1>We just ate at home. So it was that big

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. Really strange strange times for sure. And ye,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's interesting you. I'll give you a little COVID

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<v Speaker 1>fact and I know we have to get out here

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<v Speaker 1>in a few minutes. Is um. Like all the airlines

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<v Speaker 1>have like different rules. So like if you fly Delta,

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<v Speaker 1>like they don't sell the middle seats and only half

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<v Speaker 1>of first class is full, so the plane is like

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<v Speaker 1>a little over fifty full. Um. If you fly American,

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<v Speaker 1>they sell that thing out, every seat, I mean every

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<v Speaker 1>seat sold. And I bring that up. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>fly American and you go through Charlotte as you're like

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<v Speaker 1>hub connecting city, the Charlotte airport is packed. If you

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<v Speaker 1>go through Atlanta because you're going through Delta's you know hub,

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<v Speaker 1>it's empty. It is wild. The difference just because of

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<v Speaker 1>the philosophy of the airlines and there are no flights

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<v Speaker 1>like if I was still living in Jacksonville and had

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<v Speaker 1>to come down here every week. There are no direct

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<v Speaker 1>flights anymore. American doesn't have one to Miami. No dr

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Lauderdale. Uh, Southwest isn't doing anymore. Huh no neither.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff blows. You know. So it's so interesting, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got stuck. I was I went to I was in

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<v Speaker 1>an undisclosed location of one of my uh, dark dark sides. Uh, hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting what is this? What is it? Wait? What

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<v Speaker 1>is this? What we do you have? Wait? Staff? The

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<v Speaker 1>one covert location are you at with that that looks

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<v Speaker 1>like an office? Between? In between questioning, I get coffee. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, I was in undisclosed small market playing golf

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and we're trying to leave to come home,

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<v Speaker 1>and our flight got canceled and we literally could not

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<v Speaker 1>get home until like the following night because there are

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<v Speaker 1>so few light down this place to get back. Um back,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. Who said I was in Wisconsin? You've gone

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<v Speaker 1>there before, you have the track after. I've been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of places to play golf, You've gone to Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not playing. I will say this, I have

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<v Speaker 1>not been to Wisconsin this year. To play golf. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the year is not over yet, Pete. Let's come back

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<v Speaker 1>Doug moron As were the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour,

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<v Speaker 1>JP Shadrick, Tony Baselli, Pete Prisco training camp under way.

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<v Speaker 1>The first day of padded practices today only ninety minutes

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<v Speaker 1>a strange training camp so far. The ramp up period

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<v Speaker 1>is complete. The guys are in pads now and then

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<v Speaker 1>they'll expand that time the next few days and then

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<v Speaker 1>have full practices with pads few days from now. About

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<v Speaker 1>eleven full practices are on the docket in the days

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<v Speaker 1>moving ahead. But Doug Morone, there guys discussing all the

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<v Speaker 1>changes that have happened the last week or two, especially

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<v Speaker 1>on the defensive line for this Jaguars football team. The

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<v Speaker 1>latest yesterday Rodney Gunter on the reserve retired list within

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<v Speaker 1>the last two or three weeks of transactions on the

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<v Speaker 1>d line. So a lot of new faces coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>Some guys that they had counted on in free agency

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to be available this year, including Al

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<v Speaker 1>Woods and Rodney Gunter. So a lot of unknown and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of change now in this Jaguars defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>New offense continues to be installed, and as we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about earlier on the show. Today, there's only a limited

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time to get that done before opening day.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have any dress rehearsal games, no preseason games,

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<v Speaker 1>none of that. You have to go out and practice

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<v Speaker 1>it and then show up week one ready to play.

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<v Speaker 1>So a challenge for a young football team. And as

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Maron said, there, hey, we've got to get these

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are here ready and then once we get

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<v Speaker 1>a little closer, maybe down the road, if they have

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<v Speaker 1>to make some changes and make some additions, there are

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<v Speaker 1>ways to do that. So there's a lot going on. Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a lot of a lot of balls in

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<v Speaker 1>the air right now to juggle for Doug Moron and

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<v Speaker 1>Dave calledwell, yeah, it's a challenge. It was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a challenge the young team of coaching staff that

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<v Speaker 1>had some changes. A co came back, some people thought

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't gonna come back, and so there were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be challenges, and now I think there's even more.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't, you know, you don't expect guys to opt

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<v Speaker 1>So on and on it goes, and it's more of

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge for Doug Brown. I'll tell you we I

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<v Speaker 1>had him in on my show last week and he

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<v Speaker 1>seems as loose as I've ever seen him, almost like

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<v Speaker 1>he feels free. And he seemed that way. He looks better,

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<v Speaker 1>He lost a bunch of weight, he looks thin, looks healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>looks seemed like he had a good approach. So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a challenge. Let's be honest. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding year. Yeah, and I think I agree with all

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<v Speaker 1>things you said. The interesting thing you bring up a

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding year that's hard to sell and get people excited

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<v Speaker 1>when you can't say were it's a rebuilding year after

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<v Speaker 1>coming off seasons of what five and six wins in

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<v Speaker 1>back to back years, And and that's the difficult, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of task that I think David Doug have right

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<v Speaker 1>now is because the last thing anyone wants to hear

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's rebuilding. And you know, I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons that um as we were explained before

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic that uh, Dave and Doug worked what's out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. Um that your sister bring you a tissue too,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be great tishing place tissue. Um. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons that David Doug came or were stayed and

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<v Speaker 1>retained is because they gave them the best chance. Give

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, Clarenceon, I don't even know how to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's no cough nor anything in this world

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<v Speaker 1>we live in right now. Um, sorry, that's very one more.

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<v Speaker 1>Please they're coming three. But you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't that one of the reasons because that

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<v Speaker 1>they kept Doug and Dave because it gave him the

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<v Speaker 1>best chance with the young quarterback young team to win

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<v Speaker 1>this year and to compete for the division, to compete

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<v Speaker 1>for the playoffs. And so I think, Pete, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people don't like what you say. Well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a rebuilding year, and it's difficult. I mean, the facts

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<v Speaker 1>of the facts. Look at the roster, look at the

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<v Speaker 1>young guys. Are gonna be forced to play the quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>a young guy. I just don't see how it's anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But now they might be more competitive in games than

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna give him credit for, particularly with the quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>better than you know, he was last year. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface, it looks like a rebuild. But P,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, j P, would you not agree with that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the seniment coming in about keeping the David

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<v Speaker 1>Doug and kind of what we were striving for this year,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like and and and Dave talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>the their day. He had a meeting with the media

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<v Speaker 1>video conference and said, when you know, when they were

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<v Speaker 1>building for seventeen, they had the understanding that this offseason

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have to make some moves and some changes

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<v Speaker 1>and probably go a little younger. And they have acquired

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<v Speaker 1>those draft picks, a lot of those for this year,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve of them had ended up being so they had

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that it was gonna be at some point

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<v Speaker 1>the way they built that seventeen, it would come. Wait

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<v Speaker 1>a second, now, so you're telling me in the plan,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there was a plan, they said, the way

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<v Speaker 1>they the way they built that at some point you

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<v Speaker 1>can't pay all those guys forever. Changes. I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I mean I think we all do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But to say it was part of the plan, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it. Twenty after seventeen, everyone thought that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna win five and six games the next two years.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think anyone thought, like, hey, part of

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<v Speaker 1>our plans acquired draft picks by getting rid of our

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<v Speaker 1>best defensive player, Jalen Ramsey. But even now if they

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<v Speaker 1>one ten games and then nine games and got in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs all three years, but that's the contracts are

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<v Speaker 1>still the contracts. But yeah, but that's a much different

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<v Speaker 1>feeling then. I'm just responding to Pete's comment that this

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<v Speaker 1>is rebuilding. You don't typically say we're rebuilding after winning

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<v Speaker 1>five and six games in consecutive years. That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>you hear and want to hear and so quickly. At

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<v Speaker 1>my point, and I'm not disagreeing, I understand what Davi

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<v Speaker 1>is saying that when you paid high free agents and

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<v Speaker 1>you build the way they did for seventeen, that sooner

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<v Speaker 1>or later, you know, here it comes calling your salary

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<v Speaker 1>cap and you gotta, you know, make some changes. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think part of those changes would ever envision,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not having Jan Ramsey on this roster, or

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<v Speaker 1>not having your fighting within gokway, you know, him not

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<v Speaker 1>being here. I mean these are two in Dante Fowler,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the double digit sack guy, I mean, you go

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<v Speaker 1>down the list. I'm and I agree with that you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't keep them all. But to say it was part

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<v Speaker 1>of the plan to acquire draft picks to be in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation to rebuild, I just I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time buying that. That's all. Well, wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 1>rather rebuild to try and build something special than be

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<v Speaker 1>seven and nine, eight and eight every year? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like what the Miami Dolphins are doing. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what if you're asking me, I'd take

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight right now because it was the last time

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<v Speaker 1>this team was eight. Nate isn't good. You'd rather be

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<v Speaker 1>rebuild the whole thing the right way and get to ten, eleven, ten,

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<v Speaker 1>ted consistently, not not eight and eight and then have

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, seven and nine, six and ten seasons

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<v Speaker 1>and no for something special. Okay, but are you saying

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<v Speaker 1>that then you should be trying to get like two

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<v Speaker 1>wins this year and get the first pick overall, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a bad thing taking for Trevor Baby Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my point. I'm just this is a response

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<v Speaker 1>to I think it's difficult to say that after winning

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<v Speaker 1>five and six games that you're in a rebuilding here,

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<v Speaker 1>because really what you've been that's all I'm saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not disagreeing with you eight and hate. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>eight and eight over and over and over again, you

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<v Speaker 1>never get the right pieces unless you're hit in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft of those mid rounds, I mean the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the each round, which you can do. We've seen teams

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Not all teams go to the very bottom

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<v Speaker 1>top of the draft and rebuild their way up. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you've seen the Ravens and a number of teams

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<v Speaker 1>that availed to stay at the you know, middle to

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<v Speaker 1>upper echelon of the NFL for a number of years

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<v Speaker 1>um and so that's the difficult thing to pete that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. And so they had the seasons

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<v Speaker 1>they had, but they weren't expecting them. They had veterans

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<v Speaker 1>still in place, and like JP said, there was some

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<v Speaker 1>high price contracts there. Now you get your rid of

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<v Speaker 1>those and you start building with the younger players. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's more of a rebuild. I know, nobody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that. When you go fight when you win

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<v Speaker 1>five games, but two wouldn't be bad. That means you

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<v Speaker 1>get Trevor Lawrence. Oh, and I just do things and

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<v Speaker 1>we let to beat this up. It's one I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anyone likes to hear about rebuilding after winning five

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<v Speaker 1>and six games. And I just have a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>believing this is all part of the plan. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to what JP was referring to earlier in conversations, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is part of the plan and we're in a

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<v Speaker 1>good position now. I mean, like, I just have a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time buying that that we're sitting here in seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>saying like this has gone to didn't So what's your name, Tony?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say it was part of that's what you said.

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<v Speaker 1>I said they knew there would be contracts coming up

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<v Speaker 1>and they would probably have to go younger this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what they've had to do because of the situations,

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<v Speaker 1>and didn't expect that. They paid Blake Bortles. They figured

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be the quarterback. Come on, you pay him, you

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<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna be the quarterback? There were things went wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>If that was the case, then why did you ever pay?

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<v Speaker 1>Then you would if that was really the case. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say that, like you knew this is what you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do, why did you pay Blake? You play Blake

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<v Speaker 1>because you thought you the franchise guy. Okay, that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out, And if you knew that was the case,

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<v Speaker 1>then why did you give Nick Foles eight million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee over four years? Like That's where I just it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard for me to say, like it's almost like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't work out the way you want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and we now we're gonna start over and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go young because of contracts that we paid that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're overpriced and didn't work out to our ends. That's

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<v Speaker 1>it right there, and that's like that's accurate. But to say, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew we'd be in this, then why didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>pay these people all this money? With my question? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's hard to say that and to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna rebuild now wait a second, that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>we like rebuilding on what. Yeah, they thought two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen was an aberration that the guys started reading their

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<v Speaker 1>press clippings. It went bad, It didn't happen, but they

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<v Speaker 1>could regroup a nineteen, which is why they went and

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<v Speaker 1>got Folds, which was a major mistake. I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>you and then when that kept going bad, then they

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<v Speaker 1>decided now it's time to do the whole thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's accurate. And really what you find out is that

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen was the admiration. Correct. You can't win consistently that way,

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<v Speaker 1>playing that way in the NFL. It's like the Titans.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the Titans are are legitimate championship team

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<v Speaker 1>this season? A legitimate Um? No, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean they went to the championship game last year,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Jaguars did. But I think they're a legitimate,

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<v Speaker 1>uh wild card playoff team. If I would have said

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<v Speaker 1>that about Jacksonville in two thousand eighteen, fair, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying but if you look at it, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>my I've always thought that Tanny Hills probably a better

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback than Portals. Well, he's better, how much he's too

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<v Speaker 1>front to her yards and two playoff games and they

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<v Speaker 1>won because they never throw it through it. They handed

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<v Speaker 1>off every day down and that's not sustainable. That's the point,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the Jaguars that you and I agree on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So just um, how as you were talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>season and expectations everything else, I mean, every year you

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<v Speaker 1>do your you you know, picked the games and based

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<v Speaker 1>on the schedule. How many games? I haven't done it yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you haven't done it yet? No, I'm working on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I haven't finished it yet. You are you close?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say half they're gonna win four games at best,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll be competitive in a bunch of them. I

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<v Speaker 1>think then they're just not good enough. And again, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you what do you get Minshew, Tony? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think he is? We don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he's I mean, I hope, I hope he is.

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<v Speaker 1>What I've heard early in the training camp from the

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<v Speaker 1>reports of people there um that he is looking good

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<v Speaker 1>and spinning it good and he's like taking the step

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<v Speaker 1>and progressing and everything else. That's what I hope he is. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it. Not that don't it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it, but I don't believe it until

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<v Speaker 1>we get into the regular season because so much of

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<v Speaker 1>that change is once you're under It's so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>evaluate a young quarterback, you know, without being hit in

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure. And what's the ceiling pot from an individual

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<v Speaker 1>or is a team? Yeah? Like from an individual? This

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty good last year. Yeah, he's pretty good last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's see only thirty and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say fourth and ten. Yeah, that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>good year if that if he has that year. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you draft a quarterback if you're in that position? What pick?

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<v Speaker 1>What pick do I have? And who's on the board? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>forget if you throw thirty ten Tony Deshaun Watson hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>thrown thirty in his career. Highest number you get. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if if he goes four thousand, thirty and ten year,

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<v Speaker 1>passing on Trevor Lawrence if you have the first overall pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never passing on Trevor Lawrence on fields. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>seen so little of him playing, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I haven't seen enough to be fair. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not passing on Trevor Lawrence. Ever, I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>if they won the Super Bowl and yeah that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>traded for that pick, you pick them, right, you have to.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, once in a lifetime quarterback like Andrew luck was,

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<v Speaker 1>like John Elway was Peyton Manning once and once in

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime, let's come back. I think, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he's that good? I do, alright, He's not alone in

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<v Speaker 1>that Tony, that's for sure. I'm not I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>argue it. Let's come back. We'll get into the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line as we promised. Social questions right around the corner

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We'll look around the ANFC South and go

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. It's gonna be back with you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get to social questions in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But as promised, it is our Tony Boselli. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line and that the most notable I think

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<v Speaker 1>battle I think right now is a left tackle if

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<v Speaker 1>you would you even call it a battle Cam Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>will Richardson, Um, what do you think, Tony? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it should be. I mean, as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I love Cam Robinson, did you do anything last year

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<v Speaker 1>to say that you were convinced that he is your

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle? He said he felt comfortable the last four

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<v Speaker 1>to five games of the season. He really felt like

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<v Speaker 1>himself again coming back not off only that that a

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<v Speaker 1>c LS here, but remember he injured the other's leg

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<v Speaker 1>early in the season and missed the first two games. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he listen. I think he's a guy that has

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of talent and athletic ability and toughness, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's an asthenest about him that I loved having him

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<v Speaker 1>on the football field. However, we talked about it last

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night, the footwork issues that he had pre date

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<v Speaker 1>in the A c L and issues. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could say that early in the his second year he

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<v Speaker 1>was not playing great football when he got hurt. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he struggled obviously coming back from it and then had

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<v Speaker 1>another injury. Um. I love the toughness and the grit

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<v Speaker 1>that he showed. Uh. And so I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>based on all that, I was shocked last year they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't give Will Richardson a chance to overtake him at

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle, especially the way Will Richardson played in those

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<v Speaker 1>first two games. So I think it should be a

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<v Speaker 1>real competition. Um. I think they should, you know, have

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<v Speaker 1>wide open competition. Breeds, Um, you know, higher play in

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<v Speaker 1>true competitors, which I think both of them are. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Cam Robbins will end up winning the job,

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<v Speaker 1>but if I was the coach, I wouldn't just give

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<v Speaker 1>it to him. Um, by no means would I do that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but how do you decide who's the guy from the

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<v Speaker 1>eleven batted practices? Yeah, that's impossible. That's the flip side

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. So that's why I think it's gonna end

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<v Speaker 1>up being camp Robinson, because I don't think there's enough

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities for Will which they overtake them. But you give him,

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<v Speaker 1>you can only get him a couple of three games

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure he's playing better football than you make

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<v Speaker 1>the change. Right now, I'm evaluating, I mean the messages

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, listen, we're gonna evaluate this weekend, week out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a competitive process. And and obviously, at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, if Cam plays at the level we know

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<v Speaker 1>he's all capable of and we all hope he plays that,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you know, he solidifies that starting left tackle position.

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<v Speaker 1>But until then, I give richest in the chance and

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<v Speaker 1>to compete and practice and try to give him as

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<v Speaker 1>may looks as possible. But this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that this pandemic shortened training camp is gonna cause,

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be part of the mean one of the

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<v Speaker 1>effects of it is hard for guys who are fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for positions and they're not the incumbent, it's hard for

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<v Speaker 1>them to overtake and win that job. So so you

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<v Speaker 1>would say on opening day, Cam Robinson stocks no matter,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what. Yeah. The interesting thing is and for

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive line that was highly criticized last year and

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<v Speaker 1>not being very productive and literally to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach said he couldn't play Nick Foles because

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't he needed a quarterback who could run around

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<v Speaker 1>and extend plays. If you remember that was part of

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<v Speaker 1>the justification of going to um Gardner Minshew was his

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<v Speaker 1>ability to get out of trouble. Never what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear as an offensive line, they're like, hey, my

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<v Speaker 1>our head coach is going with the guy who can

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<v Speaker 1>make people miss um. But but that's what he said. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>In light of that, I think they're gonna roll out

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<v Speaker 1>the same exact offensive line that they had last year

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<v Speaker 1>that for all sixteen games. Well, the hope is Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>plays looks better and he was good, but he plays

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<v Speaker 1>much better in the second season. You hope is that

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Cam Robinson's healthy again and maybe he's picked

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<v Speaker 1>some of his footwork issues. I think Linda is solid

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. Norwell has his games where he looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy looks bad, but he's been okay. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>right guard inconsistency has been his major problem. A j Can.

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<v Speaker 1>One game he looks like he's a really good player.

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<v Speaker 1>In the next game, he looks like he's not very good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got Ben Bart, the young kid from St. John.

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<v Speaker 1>He played right away though, I think, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think ultimately that's what they like him to fight

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<v Speaker 1>for that right guard position. He's a big, physical guy.

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<v Speaker 1>UM played tackle and you know Division three football, So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's gonna you know, especially with no

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<v Speaker 1>preseason or anything else, I don't think he'll end up

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<v Speaker 1>uh in that starting lineup. So I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, Cam ROMs in Norwell, Linda can, John Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>sat group we have last year, Um, going into the

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<v Speaker 1>first week. It'll be interesting though, and I really, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you got to give Will Richardson an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>based on what we saw last year. Al Right, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Tony, it's your favorite segment Every Monday. Social

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<v Speaker 1>media questions questions from our listening audience. We put out

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<v Speaker 1>the ask early in the day. Here's what we received.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start. I'm a man of the people. No you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>YEA question one from at Marcus Parsley. Will the Jags

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<v Speaker 1>rotate the rookie and Avery Jones at nose tackle at

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<v Speaker 1>early downs? Where will we see a big guy signing

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<v Speaker 1>to reduce the rookies snap count? Tony is gonna play?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, if anyone who thinks that just

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<v Speaker 1>because he was a you know, what was your fourth

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<v Speaker 1>round draft pick? Um Adam while state that he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the guy I mean Devon Hamilton's, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Avery Jones will be your starter. I think Devon Hamilton's

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<v Speaker 1>will come in as a rotational player and maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>wins the job. I said it earlier. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>starting pour down Lineman or Josh Allen, Abey Jones, Paymon

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant and Yanniqn Gockway. I don't think there is anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to go get um out there that he's gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>in and help you. The only creative thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>heard that could be a possibility. Can you trade Unique

1:24:19.280 --> 1:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and Gockway because you have uh Chase on Um to

1:24:24.040 --> 1:24:25.640
<v Speaker 1>step up in there. Can you trade him for a

1:24:25.760 --> 1:24:30.519
<v Speaker 1>big body interior defensive linement. There are guys still out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't snacks. No Marcel Daris is still out there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hear funny and I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's pretty much done the since I've heard that too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Marcel has done a lot of money his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Marcell absolutely has absolutely has. Our next question from at

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<v Speaker 1>newly Bill, and this is kind of what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>A moment ago in the offensive line, do you the

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<v Speaker 1>old line will step up this year and perform to

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<v Speaker 1>their potential and can Ben Bart enter the starting lineup Tony.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Ben bars will start to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the starting lineup unless there's an injury early in the season.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has a chance maybe throughout the season

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<v Speaker 1>UM to have They'll definitely get him in there and

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<v Speaker 1>see what he can do. I think it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>five guys. I hope that they're much better and I

1:25:22.439 --> 1:25:24.360
<v Speaker 1>think literally I'm gonna put a lot of it on

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<v Speaker 1>Camer Robinson. I think Cam Robinson is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>just needs to continue to play up to his potential

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<v Speaker 1>what they draft about Alabama to do, and that's to

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<v Speaker 1>be a franchise left back. He's been a little tune

1:25:34.200 --> 1:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and consistent. Um he's a good powerful run blocker and

1:25:37.120 --> 1:25:39.160
<v Speaker 1>his footwork in the past game which we've talked about,

1:25:39.240 --> 1:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Jeff and I've talked about beating and I've talked about

1:25:41.080 --> 1:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>we've gone through it on film. Um, he has some

1:25:43.160 --> 1:25:45.640
<v Speaker 1>real technique flaws that he has to clean up. If

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<v Speaker 1>he can do that, I think he's an outstanding player.

1:25:47.360 --> 1:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's a big year for Cam Robinson because if

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<v Speaker 1>he plays well, I mean he's looking at making seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen million dollars next year in the open market

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<v Speaker 1>if he has a really good year at left back.

1:25:56.040 --> 1:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what those guys are getting paid now, Tony.

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<v Speaker 1>Who the swing tackle'll be Will Richardson? Yep, uh, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep Ben Barks. That's two Shad Lee maybe. Where who's

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<v Speaker 1>the ninth lineman or the tenth lineman? Where these guys

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<v Speaker 1>coming from, I mean who knows. I mean you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of guys on practice squad as well.

1:26:19.040 --> 1:26:20.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean it'll be interesting, and I think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have flexibility bringing guys up and down because of COVID nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, it's I don't think you're looking at just

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<v Speaker 1>nine eight nine. I mean you might be looking at

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen with the extra practic squad guys and you're keeping

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<v Speaker 1>Before we move on from that, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends. One of the problems with the run game

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<v Speaker 1>last year is they couldn't block. Yeah, yeah, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so if you look at it, and this is so

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<v Speaker 1>before I before I get there, peak and I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to say something again that I just said it for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. Um, but it's shocked. I mean Cam Rowlson,

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<v Speaker 1>if he had some good year, could make seventeen to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen million dollars. Well, he looks like you and your prime.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'm talking about the kid, Uh Houston's getting Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Tumpson's getting twenty two a year because I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>he is, you know, but like, okay, if he I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, if he comes out and has a really

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<v Speaker 1>good year as a left tackle, Okay, would you agree

1:27:19.520 --> 1:27:24.120
<v Speaker 1>he's making fifteen minimum? Yes, I mean Eric Flower's got

1:27:24.160 --> 1:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>ten a year. He couldn't block you. I mean he's

1:27:29.640 --> 1:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>getting fifteen sixteen, seventeen. It's a big year for Cam Robinson.

1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>So I said to say that again because I said

1:27:37.400 --> 1:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it once and I was like, wow, there's a lot

1:27:39.880 --> 1:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>riding on this year, um for Cam w and I

1:27:42.200 --> 1:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>wish him the best. I hope he gets paid. Tight

1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>End is still a huge concern for me. But they

1:27:46.000 --> 1:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>could not run the ball because the tight end issues.

1:27:47.960 --> 1:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Josh Albert was never a blocker. He's gone. James of

1:27:50.640 --> 1:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Shaughnessy coming off a knee injury. I don'm thinking is

1:27:54.120 --> 1:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>he out there yet even practicing JP? But you know,

1:27:57.120 --> 1:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>we know what you know, coming back from an a

1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:01.679
<v Speaker 1>C L means it takes time. You have Tyler Eiffert

1:28:01.920 --> 1:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>not never been known as a dominant blocker, you know

1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>in this league even when healthy. UM, and then you

1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>have to Tyl Tyler Davis is your UM. And Charles Jones.

1:28:16.200 --> 1:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the depth chart right now. You have

1:28:18.760 --> 1:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Charles Jones, and who else do you have about there

1:28:20.840 --> 1:28:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that could even draft pick from Georgia Tech played most

1:28:25.160 --> 1:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of his time at you John and um yeah, O'Shaughnessy

1:28:29.439 --> 1:28:31.679
<v Speaker 1>was off the side today, but he's on and off

1:28:31.760 --> 1:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>depending on the day. They don't have one. I mean,

1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Charles Jones would probably be the one, is the one blocker,

1:28:41.200 --> 1:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>but again he's an undrafted second year player that barely

1:28:44.040 --> 1:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>played it all last year. Like again, you look at it,

1:28:48.000 --> 1:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>um and not that there was a lot of things.

1:28:49.840 --> 1:28:51.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess you could have gotten into the

1:28:51.640 --> 1:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Austin Hooper uh uh, you know, sweepstakes and overpaid for

1:28:57.439 --> 1:29:00.040
<v Speaker 1>a free agent tight end. He's a big physical I

1:29:00.280 --> 1:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that you know maybe would have helped you out there. Um.

1:29:03.840 --> 1:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>You know there was all the complaints about uh uh

1:29:06.760 --> 1:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>David and Jocko from Cleveland. Maybe he was looking to lead,

1:29:10.200 --> 1:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>but he's more a possession guy. Uh. But my point

1:29:13.400 --> 1:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>is they haven't solved it. I mean they have if

1:29:16.160 --> 1:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you look at this, here's an amazing thing. They let

1:29:18.400 --> 1:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>go of Marcedes Louis after the seventeen season, and Marcedes

1:29:22.360 --> 1:29:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Lewis was never gonna scare you as a great receiver,

1:29:26.200 --> 1:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>but it was good red zone player and an outstanding blocker.

1:29:29.479 --> 1:29:31.439
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not mistaken. He's still playing for the Green

1:29:31.479 --> 1:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Bay Packers. He's still in the upper echelant blocker tight

1:29:34.960 --> 1:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>ends in the NFL. And we let him go from

1:29:38.280 --> 1:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>a team that wants to run the ball and we

1:29:40.920 --> 1:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>have yet to replace him on this team. Yeah, that's

1:29:46.040 --> 1:29:48.519
<v Speaker 1>one of their mistakes. Chris. You've got to be able

1:29:48.520 --> 1:29:50.679
<v Speaker 1>to block the edge, and that's been a major problem.

1:29:51.160 --> 1:29:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Well and and you're talking about a low price position.

1:29:53.600 --> 1:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know what he's making a Green Bay,

1:29:56.360 --> 1:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>but a couple of million dollars in today's NFL, I

1:29:59.280 --> 1:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>mean the general public, it's a ton of money, a

1:30:02.080 --> 1:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>ton of money for the three of us on this show.

1:30:04.160 --> 1:30:06.519
<v Speaker 1>We love two million dollars to do the show, um,

1:30:06.520 --> 1:30:09.439
<v Speaker 1>if anyone's listening, Um. But in the NFL, you know,

1:30:09.560 --> 1:30:11.439
<v Speaker 1>grand scheme of things, it's not a lot of money.

1:30:11.479 --> 1:30:14.559
<v Speaker 1>And I it's for a team that wants to run

1:30:14.640 --> 1:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the ball, Um, it is concerning. And for a team

1:30:19.240 --> 1:30:22.479
<v Speaker 1>that wants to throw the ball, it's concerning because again,

1:30:23.200 --> 1:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>where is the where is the threat at the tight

1:30:26.040 --> 1:30:28.799
<v Speaker 1>end position in the passing game? Like even Tyler Eiffer,

1:30:28.840 --> 1:30:31.439
<v Speaker 1>who is healthy for the first time and what two

1:30:31.560 --> 1:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>or three years last year pete Um, you still think

1:30:33.960 --> 1:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>he only had forty five catches. But he's when he's

1:30:37.400 --> 1:30:41.519
<v Speaker 1>really truly healthy, he's a threat. He's a threat, but

1:30:41.600 --> 1:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna be a great blocker, like you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>One final social question from at Kempy under School, Ryan,

1:30:49.160 --> 1:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and this is about the tight end. We talked about

1:30:51.120 --> 1:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>this earlier. It's a little aggressive, but is John that

1:30:56.960 --> 1:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>this is ridiculous? This is embarrassing to me. I don't

1:30:59.080 --> 1:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's fair to the key it um. It's not

1:31:01.320 --> 1:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>like we don't let's not put stuff like up on

1:31:04.000 --> 1:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the screen like this, because I don't like doing that.

1:31:06.160 --> 1:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>The young guys, well, we talked about it earlier about Yeah,

1:31:09.760 --> 1:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just cold. You don't know, I don't

1:31:13.080 --> 1:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>know if it's anything, but when a guy has injuries

1:31:15.240 --> 1:31:17.439
<v Speaker 1>the first two years, Tony guys starting answering the question.

1:31:17.920 --> 1:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>That's fine, but made him glass. I mean that's taking

1:31:19.840 --> 1:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a shot at him, and I think it's uncalled. You

1:31:22.680 --> 1:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>don't like that. I know you don't like that. So

1:31:24.160 --> 1:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>on the other side, we'll do we should do something

1:31:25.840 --> 1:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that you really like. We should cut the team. First

1:31:29.880 --> 1:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of all, we said this and you walked away, Pete

1:31:32.200 --> 1:31:34.799
<v Speaker 1>or you weren't listening because your headset is the worst,

1:31:34.920 --> 1:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>is iniquated. The same thing I've ever seen. I don't

1:31:38.680 --> 1:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>know what you're talking about, and uh is that there's

1:31:41.920 --> 1:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>only eighty guys in camp. You're gonna keep fifty five

1:31:44.200 --> 1:31:47.639
<v Speaker 1>on the active roster and sixteen on practice squad. You're

1:31:47.640 --> 1:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>cutting nine guys. Let's do it. Well, come back, we

1:31:54.439 --> 1:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>might be cutting the roster. When we return, we will

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<v Speaker 1>go around the a f C South and touch on

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<v Speaker 1>ensuring those who served. You know, it's kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>when you know we're all coming together, hasn't been around

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<v Speaker 1>tested daily. So it's mainly just staying safe and like

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<v Speaker 1>mask up at all times. I mean, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to wear my mask right now, but I just know

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<v Speaker 1>wearing it just promotes people to like make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they have theirs one at all times, because it's just's key.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not really about you personally wearing the mask. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about like helping others out around you. Well, he might

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<v Speaker 1>not be able to tell with the mask on. But

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<v Speaker 1>that was Jared Wilson, Jaguars Safety and Jaguars Happy Our

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<v Speaker 1>rolls along, j P Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pie Prisco our

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<v Speaker 1>INNFL season. You know, Yeah, that's it was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing that under his helmet the other day, Pete. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just in the building for him. He was actually

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<v Speaker 1>trying that type of mask out, a normal mask like

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<v Speaker 1>you and I would wear walking around into a restaurant

1:36:31.320 --> 1:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, under the helmet, just to see how it

1:36:34.720 --> 1:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>works out. This is the time where guys are are

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<v Speaker 1>trying different things, whether it's the the full face shield

1:36:40.080 --> 1:36:42.320
<v Speaker 1>with advisor above there over the eyes and then the

1:36:42.920 --> 1:36:45.559
<v Speaker 1>mouth and nose shield below that that Oakley has created,

1:36:46.360 --> 1:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>or a mask underneath. The first few days and helmets

1:36:49.560 --> 1:36:52.720
<v Speaker 1>are a good time to try those different things out. Yeah,

1:36:52.720 --> 1:36:54.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you can play with that pulled

1:36:54.720 --> 1:36:56.840
<v Speaker 1>up over your nose and mouth. I would have problems

1:36:56.880 --> 1:37:01.360
<v Speaker 1>with that. And here's the thing, and I don't know

1:37:01.439 --> 1:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>what kind of mask that is. But if I mean,

1:37:03.960 --> 1:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>there was a study that just came out, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that the gators and bandanna bandanas and that looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a gator to me. But I don't want to speak

1:37:14.200 --> 1:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>to what kind of materials may it of, but that

1:37:16.760 --> 1:37:21.320
<v Speaker 1>it's actually creates a higher rate, or it's more dangerous,

1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>or it's worse to wear a gator or a bandana

1:37:24.439 --> 1:37:27.479
<v Speaker 1>as a mask because of what it does through the droplets.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually makes them a finer air assault and they

1:37:29.520 --> 1:37:31.320
<v Speaker 1>hang in the air longer than if you wore no

1:37:31.560 --> 1:37:34.439
<v Speaker 1>mask at all. And so I mean, this came from Duke.

1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>This is not you know, this is not to Tony

1:37:36.840 --> 1:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Boselli School of Medicine. This is actually Duke, which is

1:37:40.320 --> 1:37:42.559
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know we had two doctors on the show.

1:37:42.600 --> 1:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, I believe it was in the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. Duke University,

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<v Speaker 1>very obviously well respected. What it tells me a mask

1:37:54.800 --> 1:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>is not a mask, and so what you wear matters.

1:37:58.000 --> 1:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>And what they're telling. What they're saying is a gay

1:38:00.120 --> 1:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>or in a bandana, and that looks like a gat

1:38:02.160 --> 1:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>or to me. Again, maybe it's a different kind of

1:38:03.640 --> 1:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>material because the guy's in the NFL, you know, different

1:38:06.200 --> 1:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>resources or whatever. Um, But you know, just to wear

1:38:10.400 --> 1:38:12.599
<v Speaker 1>it because it's you feel like it's like the right

1:38:12.680 --> 1:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>thing to do from like make sure we were in

1:38:14.600 --> 1:38:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the right kind of mask. I'm with Pete as if

1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I was a player number one year outside. UM, the

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<v Speaker 1>risk of transmission. If you look at all the experts

1:38:22.160 --> 1:38:24.280
<v Speaker 1>on any side of the aisle and any anything else.

1:38:24.720 --> 1:38:28.320
<v Speaker 1>If you're outside, you know, the ready to transmission is

1:38:28.439 --> 1:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>much much lower. UM. And I would not wear anything now.

1:38:33.840 --> 1:38:35.240
<v Speaker 1>If I was told I had to wear one of

1:38:35.280 --> 1:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>those face shields, I obviously would. I'm not going to

1:38:37.439 --> 1:38:39.720
<v Speaker 1>not play, But if it's up to me, I'm not

1:38:39.760 --> 1:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna wear anything because of the heat UM nowhere, I'm

1:38:43.200 --> 1:38:46.240
<v Speaker 1>wearing a gator uh or anything else. If I don't

1:38:46.280 --> 1:38:48.639
<v Speaker 1>have to. That would be my personal choice. Unless unless

1:38:48.640 --> 1:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I was told by the NFL and the p A

1:38:50.680 --> 1:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that hey, listen, we want all the players to wear

1:38:52.479 --> 1:38:56.320
<v Speaker 1>these oakleff Field, mass Field or whatever, then obviously you

1:38:56.400 --> 1:38:59.839
<v Speaker 1>got to do it. Now. I haven't been to anybody's facility,

1:39:00.800 --> 1:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>but talking to a lot of guys around the league,

1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>owners have spent a lot of money to try and

1:39:07.160 --> 1:39:12.320
<v Speaker 1>make their facilities safe for the football players and JP.

1:39:12.479 --> 1:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Have you been down to the Jaguars facility. I have

1:39:14.840 --> 1:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>not been in the buildings since you haven't either, right, No, no,

1:39:20.800 --> 1:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>But like they put up all different types of uh

1:39:25.520 --> 1:39:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, guard guard rails and uh everything, plastic weight

1:39:32.320 --> 1:39:34.439
<v Speaker 1>room in the weight rooms which haven't been big enough,

1:39:34.479 --> 1:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>they made them outside for him. I mean, they've done

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<v Speaker 1>a part plexiglass everywhere. They've done a great job, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's an expensive thing and those tests costs a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money. So let's just hope that some knucklehead on

1:39:47.560 --> 1:39:52.679
<v Speaker 1>some team that's like player number seventy seven doesn't decide

1:39:52.720 --> 1:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that he's going to go out to the bar and

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<v Speaker 1>bask in his short shelf life as an NFL player.

1:39:59.600 --> 1:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>And I'm back in fact, everybody or sneak a female

1:40:03.760 --> 1:40:07.120
<v Speaker 1>friend into the facility a dressed as a player. That

1:40:07.280 --> 1:40:10.240
<v Speaker 1>was amazing. What if the star had done that when

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<v Speaker 1>they have caught him. No, No, that's that's the greatness

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<v Speaker 1>of coaches. Though we're consistent. We treat everybody the saying no,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. Yeah, so you're telling me that if Russell

1:40:22.600 --> 1:40:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Wilson got caught sneaking his wife into the facility dressed

1:40:26.840 --> 1:40:32.320
<v Speaker 1>as a player, that Pete's gonna cut her eyes and

1:40:33.000 --> 1:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>it would not even have been reported, Like, no one

1:40:35.400 --> 1:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>would ever have found out about it have been buried. Um.

1:40:38.240 --> 1:40:42.479
<v Speaker 1>But those guys though, to those young players at the end,

1:40:43.080 --> 1:40:44.760
<v Speaker 1>But that's where you need the veteran leaders to step

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<v Speaker 1>up and say, guys, listen, we gotta take the serious

1:40:46.400 --> 1:40:48.599
<v Speaker 1>because it's affecting all of our pay in this league

1:40:48.640 --> 1:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and everything else. So yeah, you can't be stupid. And

1:40:50.960 --> 1:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I take my hat off to both the PA and

1:40:53.240 --> 1:40:55.439
<v Speaker 1>the NFL owners. Um, I think they hand them this

1:40:55.640 --> 1:40:59.760
<v Speaker 1>really well, not easy, big economic issues in front of you.

1:41:00.000 --> 1:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Financial ramifications based on what happens. Um a lot of

1:41:03.320 --> 1:41:07.040
<v Speaker 1>risk out there economically and health wise. And if you

1:41:07.120 --> 1:41:11.479
<v Speaker 1>watch the Major League Baseball like just fall all over

1:41:11.600 --> 1:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>themselves and not be able to figure it out, and

1:41:15.120 --> 1:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>really around a sport that probably easier to manage less players,

1:41:18.479 --> 1:41:20.519
<v Speaker 1>the dial of the game and everything else, and they

1:41:20.600 --> 1:41:24.240
<v Speaker 1>literally couldn't figure out because the economics reasons. It was

1:41:24.280 --> 1:41:26.240
<v Speaker 1>embarrassing and for me at least, I thought it was

1:41:26.400 --> 1:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't look good. And here comes the NFL, the most

1:41:29.200 --> 1:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>complex sport to play during the pandemic, the most players

1:41:32.920 --> 1:41:37.280
<v Speaker 1>on the team close quarters, impossible to have social distancing

1:41:37.320 --> 1:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>when you're on the field. And I take my hat

1:41:40.160 --> 1:41:43.479
<v Speaker 1>off to the Players Association and niphoners because they got

1:41:43.520 --> 1:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>it done and for the most part it was pretty

1:41:46.000 --> 1:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>dang smooth. Obviously intense moments back and forth using the

1:41:48.720 --> 1:41:51.240
<v Speaker 1>media where they needed to to get their message across,

1:41:51.600 --> 1:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>normal negotiations, but never a risk of not playing, never

1:41:54.720 --> 1:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>a risk of not starting camp on time, and the

1:41:57.000 --> 1:42:00.599
<v Speaker 1>owners did a very good job of using making sure.

1:42:00.720 --> 1:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Like to your point, Pete, I've heard it across the

1:42:02.640 --> 1:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>league that the owners invested big dollars to make sure

1:42:06.200 --> 1:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>players were as safe as possible. Yeah, but you know,

1:42:09.439 --> 1:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>here's the difference with baseball. Baseball's traveling. You know how

1:42:14.320 --> 1:42:20.439
<v Speaker 1>guys are and you know nobody wants that's you're missing

1:42:20.479 --> 1:42:24.120
<v Speaker 1>my point. No travel whatever. I'm talking about the front end.

1:42:24.160 --> 1:42:26.479
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't figure it out, the economics of it. You know,

1:42:26.560 --> 1:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you there. They wasted about a month

1:42:29.320 --> 1:42:33.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to haggle with each other. And but you're talking

1:42:33.760 --> 1:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>about the test. But the testing also is interesting because

1:42:36.400 --> 1:42:38.879
<v Speaker 1>remember the NFL thought that were gonna be a boatload

1:42:38.920 --> 1:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of guys when they came back that tested positive, and

1:42:41.160 --> 1:42:43.479
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't And a majority of those guys have already

1:42:43.520 --> 1:42:46.519
<v Speaker 1>come back. Baseball the Marlins go out on the road

1:42:46.840 --> 1:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and they infect fifteen guys. So yeah, I think I

1:42:50.640 --> 1:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>think that's the biggest difference. They're still in first place.

1:42:54.560 --> 1:42:56.439
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be first of all. You gotta be smart too.

1:42:56.520 --> 1:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>You can't go out to the clubs and go out

1:42:58.120 --> 1:43:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and party in and bars and everything else. If you're

1:43:00.280 --> 1:43:01.720
<v Speaker 1>a young guy, and I get it as a young guy,

1:43:01.800 --> 1:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what you like to do. But right now in

1:43:04.200 --> 1:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>this world, if you want to be a professional and

1:43:05.680 --> 1:43:07.479
<v Speaker 1>you want to play sports, you just can't do it.

1:43:07.960 --> 1:43:09.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen. I had an article in the break

1:43:09.680 --> 1:43:11.559
<v Speaker 1>in the Roll Street Journal about the University of North

1:43:11.600 --> 1:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Carolina just canceled all fall classes on on campus classes

1:43:17.520 --> 1:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>a C C team, you talk about ramifications. I wonder

1:43:19.800 --> 1:43:21.639
<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna even play football now, because if they're

1:43:21.640 --> 1:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna allow the regular student on campus, are they

1:43:23.720 --> 1:43:26.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna football players on camps? And the reason was is

1:43:26.479 --> 1:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>because after ten days I think it was being back

1:43:29.160 --> 1:43:32.320
<v Speaker 1>on campus, they're like almost two hundred or just under

1:43:32.360 --> 1:43:37.040
<v Speaker 1>two hundred positive cases a thirty percent positive case around

1:43:37.160 --> 1:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>of tests they gave. Because these kids come back and

1:43:40.360 --> 1:43:42.400
<v Speaker 1>their kids are like you and I, Pete and JP,

1:43:42.600 --> 1:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>we were all the same way. You get back. You

1:43:44.600 --> 1:43:46.160
<v Speaker 1>want to hang out, you go party, you know, I

1:43:46.280 --> 1:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>go to your friends and do whatever you're gonna do.

1:43:48.760 --> 1:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>But colleges, like, that's why I think college is gonna

1:43:51.400 --> 1:43:53.160
<v Speaker 1>have a hard time trying to figure this whole thing out.

1:43:53.240 --> 1:43:55.519
<v Speaker 1>As much as I want to football to be played,

1:43:55.880 --> 1:43:58.599
<v Speaker 1>because you have so many factors and variables around kids

1:43:58.640 --> 1:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>on a campus, but this is has to be different.

1:44:00.960 --> 1:44:04.400
<v Speaker 1>If you're in the NFL, this is your job. Like

1:44:04.520 --> 1:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>my wife and I was funny, we were talking about this,

1:44:06.439 --> 1:44:08.240
<v Speaker 1>and I'd love to get your guys opinion, and we

1:44:08.360 --> 1:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>were talking about, like, where would I do because you

1:44:11.720 --> 1:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>had players opt out and everything else, which I respect.

1:44:14.840 --> 1:44:18.439
<v Speaker 1>And you know, every soldier, a fellow left out, will

1:44:18.439 --> 1:44:21.559
<v Speaker 1>opted out, his child has has had cancer and everything else.

1:44:22.120 --> 1:44:24.879
<v Speaker 1>And some guys have opted out because they have newborn babies.

1:44:25.080 --> 1:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I respect all that. But my wife and I asked,

1:44:27.240 --> 1:44:28.479
<v Speaker 1>and I said, what do you think we would do?

1:44:28.800 --> 1:44:31.479
<v Speaker 1>And basically her response was like, this is what we're

1:44:31.520 --> 1:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. You're gonna go stay at the hotel for

1:44:33.600 --> 1:44:35.599
<v Speaker 1>six months and go play football because that's your damn job.

1:44:35.600 --> 1:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>And I'll say home to take care of the kids.

1:44:37.920 --> 1:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>It was interesting because it was like, and I'm not

1:44:39.600 --> 1:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>saying that's the right decision for everybody, but like for

1:44:42.439 --> 1:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>our family, we thought about it like because I was

1:44:45.720 --> 1:44:47.080
<v Speaker 1>as we were gonna do that, I'm like, what do

1:44:47.160 --> 1:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you think we do in And I said, I know,

1:44:49.000 --> 1:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to play and she's like, yeah, you better

1:44:50.920 --> 1:44:53.280
<v Speaker 1>go play. It's like your job, like go stay in hotel.

1:44:53.800 --> 1:44:56.479
<v Speaker 1>We can face time to kids. You can go play football.

1:44:56.479 --> 1:44:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And because if you think about it, there's a lot

1:44:59.240 --> 1:45:02.240
<v Speaker 1>of professions in this world where guys leave home for

1:45:02.360 --> 1:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>extended periods of time. I mean the top of the

1:45:04.640 --> 1:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>list of military, I mean guys out on the oil rig,

1:45:07.240 --> 1:45:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean traveling salesman, I mean on the list. And

1:45:10.479 --> 1:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like it's abnormal like to go like

1:45:14.240 --> 1:45:15.800
<v Speaker 1>like if I had to make a decision, and it's

1:45:16.000 --> 1:45:18.839
<v Speaker 1>really interesting. And this is where it gets so selfish

1:45:18.880 --> 1:45:22.240
<v Speaker 1>for me to one like, a long career in the

1:45:22.360 --> 1:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>NFL is ten years, So if you don't play one year,

1:45:25.040 --> 1:45:28.479
<v Speaker 1>you're taking away ten percent of your career. That's a lot,

1:45:29.200 --> 1:45:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and you don't realize that when you're in the middle

1:45:30.800 --> 1:45:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of it. The second thing is if I had to

1:45:33.120 --> 1:45:37.160
<v Speaker 1>sit there and look at my earning potential as a

1:45:37.240 --> 1:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>professional athlete, and I had I'll say if I was,

1:45:41.040 --> 1:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>if I was at the level of player I was

1:45:42.600 --> 1:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>when I played the best left tackle. So I've been

1:45:44.720 --> 1:45:47.479
<v Speaker 1>making twenty million dollars this year, and I was gonna

1:45:47.520 --> 1:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>look around and say, Okay, I either can opt out

1:45:50.160 --> 1:45:54.839
<v Speaker 1>because maybe my family, my mom or my wife, daughter, kids,

1:45:54.920 --> 1:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>son has an underlying health issue. I can opt out

1:45:58.000 --> 1:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and stay home, which, by the way, if you're gonna

1:45:59.920 --> 1:46:01.599
<v Speaker 1>do that, that means you can't leave the house at all.

1:46:02.479 --> 1:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Because you're saying I'm gonna protect them, that means don't

1:46:05.000 --> 1:46:09.120
<v Speaker 1>leave because of what you're you'd expose yourself with everyday life.

1:46:09.400 --> 1:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>Would I do that? Which is I respect that option?

1:46:12.240 --> 1:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Or would I say, Hey, I'm gonna go live in

1:46:14.200 --> 1:46:16.639
<v Speaker 1>a hotel for six months and I will make sure

1:46:16.720 --> 1:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>my family is not exposed at all, and I'm gonna

1:46:18.880 --> 1:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>go play football. I would choose that I would go

1:46:21.080 --> 1:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>stay in a hotel. I would separate myself from my

1:46:23.040 --> 1:46:24.720
<v Speaker 1>family or anyone that that was at risk to go

1:46:24.800 --> 1:46:27.320
<v Speaker 1>play the game. Because you have such a small window

1:46:27.840 --> 1:46:31.160
<v Speaker 1>in this league. Plus, like you said, it's your job.

1:46:32.000 --> 1:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're doing Yeah, really, that was that was the

1:46:35.160 --> 1:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>best comment. My wife just looked at me. She's like,

1:46:36.960 --> 1:46:38.880
<v Speaker 1>are you crazy, it's your job. She just wants to

1:46:38.920 --> 1:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>get ready for She's gonna probably say, pretend you're playing now,

1:46:44.160 --> 1:46:45.920
<v Speaker 1>go to the hotel for six months, get out of

1:46:46.000 --> 1:46:49.840
<v Speaker 1>here alone. Make no mistake. I used to try me.

1:46:49.920 --> 1:46:52.439
<v Speaker 1>I travel a lot. Usually this pandemic. I've been home.

1:46:52.560 --> 1:46:54.360
<v Speaker 1>She's like, isn't it time for you, like start traveling

1:46:54.400 --> 1:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>again and like go to work and new stuff and like,

1:46:57.760 --> 1:46:59.559
<v Speaker 1>and she's like NFL seasons and I'm like, I might

1:46:59.600 --> 1:47:01.360
<v Speaker 1>not trying for the NFL because the way they're going

1:47:01.400 --> 1:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>to the beginning. She's like, what so, yeah, I mean

1:47:04.600 --> 1:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you're right, I'd be in the middle of like a

1:47:07.000 --> 1:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>month on the road right now. Your wife's disappointed. Let's

1:47:13.000 --> 1:47:16.920
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<v Speaker 1>really into it. I'll what do you mean? I'm into it? Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in I'm getting tight, I'm like into it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're glad, glad you're into it? Are you? What? Are

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't you get thrown in like a prison or something?

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<v Speaker 1>You're up to something listen, But but he has a

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<v Speaker 1>like they're real. They're real books. Okay, they're book books.

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<v Speaker 1>He never read. You have not read one of those books, Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I got here? Oh yeah, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, only three people I have ever read

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<v Speaker 1>read that book. Look at look at that guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the back, but full head of hair. It's fantastic. Frisco

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<v Speaker 1>and johnnyo Selly. You know what's even better is this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Brunel Books, South South Paul. How about where did

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<v Speaker 1>you write that? Oh? Yeah, it was written for it

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid's book. And then here somewhere you blame

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<v Speaker 1>him for running it a sack into your You ran

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<v Speaker 1>a sack into you. I never gave the only sacks

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<v Speaker 1>ever gave up for his fault? Did he listens? You

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<v Speaker 1>better be nice text? Did you sell any of those

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<v Speaker 1>books either? One? Yeah? Yeah. The problem with the first book,

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Richard was by the time it got out the

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<v Speaker 1>other season. Yeah, too late. You missed the mark on

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit. Hey, you need you needed e books?

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<v Speaker 1>You get out of the book right away? Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't Tony JP hasn't read anything behind them show books

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. Here's the other thing, like what are

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<v Speaker 1>these footballs? Like you've never played in that organized sport

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<v Speaker 1>in your life and you have like these football that

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<v Speaker 1>this is Alabama. There's a World Football League ball to

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<v Speaker 1>my left, my left, you're right, these are London balls.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the Bill's game. This is another one.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the one in the case the old World Football League?

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<v Speaker 1>An official? That was my grandparents were seasoned taking olders

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<v Speaker 1>for the Birmingham teams, the Vulcans and the Americans. They

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<v Speaker 1>changed the franchises. Yes, so there you go that you

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<v Speaker 1>did the World Football legame seventy seventy mid seventies probably right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. All right, we have plenty of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>to go through my stuff on the behind me here

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the set. So here's the thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>before we go around the league, I expect every week,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point we're in a segment, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>pull one of the books out behind you and give

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<v Speaker 1>us a book report that you've actually read it. I

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<v Speaker 1>have an agreement on that. I can do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>can do that, I can do that all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>can do. We'll work on that. Let's go around the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start in the FC south of the Houston Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Still is activated from the non football illness list

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<v Speaker 1>and undisclosed illness. Still and cold the linebacker taking off

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<v Speaker 1>the p U P. He had a torn a c

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<v Speaker 1>L during the game against the Colts last year and

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<v Speaker 1>he are they the favorite? They've won the division for

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<v Speaker 1>out of the last five years. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>How How did they rush the pastor? And they have

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<v Speaker 1>some issues in the secondary, the offensive line. You hope

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<v Speaker 1>those young guys get better and they lost Hopkins. Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do power Raking. Well, let's get through the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the teams before we did. In Power the Indianapolis Colts,

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers and c Y Hilton connecting early in camp,

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<v Speaker 1>especially today, they caught three of the first four passes

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<v Speaker 1>from Rivers. Hilton back from a minor hamstring issue, and

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<v Speaker 1>Rivers was charted unofficially nine of thirteen and eleven on

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<v Speaker 1>eleven sessions and Pete, I know how much you love

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<v Speaker 1>that's stupid. Eleven on eleven stats. Yeah, I hate leven

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<v Speaker 1>on eleven stats. Guys work on stuff and camp. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't evaluate that stuff. Numbers are dumb. Didn't somebody used

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<v Speaker 1>to chart the plays there all the time? He yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's dumb. I mean they don't mean anything. Go ask

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback what is charting? What you're charting? And they go,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? I work on so much

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in camp dumb. But Philip Rivers will have a

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<v Speaker 1>good year for the Colts. Yeah, he's didna get protected

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time about correct a decade. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a tough guy. Yeah, blind. I've heard through the rumor

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<v Speaker 1>mill that the kid Jonathan what's the kid from Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 1>they drafted running back Convin Taylor looks really good, good

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<v Speaker 1>on offense, so we got that. The Tennessee Titans Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Tannehill was absent from Monday's practice, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't in practice, he was at He was absent

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<v Speaker 1>from their two playoff victories to Wow. The other two

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks got increased reps today. Corey Davis so wide receive

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<v Speaker 1>or his first appearance today after starting camp on the pup.

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<v Speaker 1>Are what's the Titans situation here? They are they sustainable?

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<v Speaker 1>We've touched on that earlier on seventeen Jaguars. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna win five games? They'll probably, they'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>win seven. I actually think I get to define sustainable.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously when we say we're not really talking real money.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't believe in gambling. On the show, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a figure of speech to be entertainment purposes only. I

1:56:48.960 --> 1:56:52.360
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get in trouble. Uh, is like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what sustainable was. They're gonna be the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing they've been the last like four years. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be eight and eight, nine and seven fighting for the

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<v Speaker 1>wild card and if they get during the playoffs, they

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<v Speaker 1>can make your run because they're a physical, tough team.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach by my career, that's what they're gonna be. Huh

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<v Speaker 1>when they go six and tenn and not make the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs again, you want to like have dinner on the

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<v Speaker 1>winning more than six years. You said they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, I'll say they won't. No, I did

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<v Speaker 1>not say that. I said they're gonna be eight and eight,

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<v Speaker 1>nineties seven, fighting for a while for a spot like

1:57:24.920 --> 1:57:27.720
<v Speaker 1>they do every year. Well, here's let's just say dinner.

1:57:28.280 --> 1:57:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll take them not being in the playoffs. You take

1:57:30.320 --> 1:57:35.520
<v Speaker 1>them being in Pete different, therefore not sustainable. You won't

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<v Speaker 1>take that, know, you said six wins? I said, anytime

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to say dinner on sixth win? It's

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<v Speaker 1>not sustainable. Okay, Well, do well get to define sustainable.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they going to the playoffs this year? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they're fitting. They're a coin flip. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna for dinner. You got them in the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 1>I got them out. Baby, we please translate to him

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<v Speaker 1>that he said, I don't know. I got lost in

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<v Speaker 1>my ears. I don't know the whole thing. Let's touch

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<v Speaker 1>quickly on the Washington football team and quarterback Alex Smith

1:58:08.760 --> 1:58:11.720
<v Speaker 1>cleared to practice. Ron Rivera said he's gonna be in

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<v Speaker 1>the mix to be the starter this year, going up

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<v Speaker 1>against Wayne and Haskins. What a story this? Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question whatever. And I was watching. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry because Pete will probably notice, but I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>like him getting like congratulated his family, like spring champaign

1:58:27.000 --> 1:58:29.440
<v Speaker 1>on him or wherever. Yeah, it looked like it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like he has a drop dragging and he's dragging it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, but it looks like his drop foot. Because

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<v Speaker 1>the image it did not that was not a good

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<v Speaker 1>look and being cleared for football and being cleared for

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<v Speaker 1>football are two different things. So I can't see him

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<v Speaker 1>going on a field and running around and taking shots

1:58:48.520 --> 1:58:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and everything else right now. Story your root for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Good dude. Now, maybe, like Jalen Smith played a year

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<v Speaker 1>with drop foot, the nerve wasn't all the way back

1:58:57.720 --> 1:58:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the kid from but he had a brace on there

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<v Speaker 1>that you can play with it, and so maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case. Yeah, I don't know, but that's something I

1:59:05.600 --> 1:59:09.160
<v Speaker 1>would want to know. But it's regardless. The guy almost

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<v Speaker 1>lost his leg literally they were they were having discussions

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<v Speaker 1>in the o R. Do we cut his leg off

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<v Speaker 1>or not? And now he's back on the football field

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<v Speaker 1>of an NFL team. I take my hat off to him,

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<v Speaker 1>as if you've ever you want to read a story,

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<v Speaker 1>read the story about what they went through. That was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Good stuff. Tony Pete, Hey, we're off and run him.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you nextually. See from Pete Prisco, Tony Vassili,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm J. P. Shadrick. Thank you for listening and watching.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.