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Speaker 1: It is Monday, Auguste. This is Jack this Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: and now a guy we affectionately referred to as Chris

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Speaker 1: Commas Kryptonite, J Peace Shadrick, Oh, and welcome in. Here

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Speaker 1: we go. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday, presented

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Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans, J P. Shadrick and the triumphant

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Speaker 1: return of Pete Priscoe and Tony BASSELLI, gentlemen, great to

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Speaker 1: be back with you. Pete, what's going on? I'm back?

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Speaker 1: Ready for another season as weird as it's been. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like, God, I can't even go to training care

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Speaker 1: and are you ready for another beat down as you

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Speaker 1: get as it was like last season on Every Monday

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Speaker 1: Night where I dominated you and all takes. Talking to

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Speaker 1: people before this show came out, and they were talking

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Speaker 1: about how I use you and they feel sorry for you.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they wonder how a little guy can beat up

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Speaker 1: know you're lying. No one ever looked at you and

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Speaker 1: said little big head, big big body, big belly. Wrong.

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Speaker 1: Your height is your height, the nerve. Look at this,

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Speaker 1: look at my face. It's all drawn. Everything that's just

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Speaker 1: because you have a tan. Right now, you have the

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Speaker 1: South Florida Tan, the beaches right around the corner. People here,

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Speaker 1: though JP looks like he's tan. Well. I have been

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Speaker 1: out in the sun. I mean I have been to

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Speaker 1: practice unlike you too, the last few days. So you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's nice to be outside, get some sun. I ain't

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Speaker 1: imprisoned for like four months. Good point, excellent point, we've

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Speaker 1: But you know what, the beach is great and it's

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Speaker 1: open all you need. And here's what we're getting to

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Speaker 1: tonight on the program. Of course, the triumphant return of

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Speaker 1: Pete and Tony. Throughout the evening. I'm sure they'll bash

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Speaker 1: on each other as they always do. First day in

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Speaker 1: full pads. Today, defensive line has a revolving door they've

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Speaker 1: room the last couple of weeks. We'll get into all

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Speaker 1: the changes there and what it means moving ahead, how

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Speaker 1: to establish an offensive identity with no preseason games, only

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Speaker 1: social media questions that will go around the National Football

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Speaker 1: League as well. Let's start with the strangest of training

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Speaker 1: camps and preseason. Of course, since we have spoken last time,

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Speaker 1: the league has canceled all preseason games. There are only

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Speaker 1: fourteen padded practices. If you ask Doug Moron, it's it's

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Speaker 1: really eleven full padded practices. There's a ramp up period.

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Speaker 1: so time is limited, and it's it's got to be

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Speaker 1: difficult Tony to to evaluate talent in eleven padded practice. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, it makes no sense to me. You

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Speaker 1: have basically, what is it, four weeks before opening day,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have eleven practices over four weeks with

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Speaker 1: no preseason games. It doesn't seem like enough number. Like listen,

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Speaker 1: if I was there and other guys that are veterans

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Speaker 1: the ten eleven practices. I'm ready to go, um and

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Speaker 1: I can go play. But this is a young football

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Speaker 1: for anyone who's down the roster right now that's trying

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Speaker 1: how do you prove yourself and eleven paddent practices, no

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Speaker 1: And what happens when you're out of control, you get hurt.

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Speaker 1: That's where injuries happened. So I hope I'm wrong. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Well before we we don't know, Pete. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think it is the long story short is but how

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Speaker 1: did they diagnose it? Did he? Was he having issues

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Speaker 1: health issues that led to this? Is? Like? What was

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Speaker 1: there some event that said, hey, we need to check

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Speaker 1: your heart because it could be this. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: the other question. But it's I will say, and not

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Speaker 1: knowing and so not you know, pointing the finger or

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Speaker 1: like saying anything or anyone's at fault. Maybe it was

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Speaker 1: just one of those bad luck situations. Um, but I

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Speaker 1: would have thought that a full cardiac work up would

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Speaker 1: be a part of a physical for a free agent.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm wrong, I have I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming a lot of stuff here, But but I'll

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Speaker 1: say that did you have it? Did you have physicals

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Speaker 1: when you were playing for the team? Did you have

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Speaker 1: full physicals every year? Yeah? Yeah, I guess we did,

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Speaker 1: I think and I know I did. I didn't e

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Speaker 1: KG when e K G have caught that? The question,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I don't either, and so I'm

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Speaker 1: not like that's why I'm very careful. I'm not pointing

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Speaker 1: to blame. I'm not saying it's anyway. It's no. I

446
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Speaker 1: know it's tragic that I feel terrible for Rodney gut

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Speaker 1: Gut gunter is because he can't play the game that

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Speaker 1: he loves and the fact that you know, I guess

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Speaker 1: the silver lining is is he signed at least a

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Speaker 1: significant deal, so there's a financial Um, I guess, I

451
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Speaker 1: don't know. But if it's guaranteed, I mean, I don't

452
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Speaker 1: think you love that. Typically those are guaranteed for injury. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean, unless they can say it's not like he's

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Speaker 1: retiring just to retire, he's retiring medical reasons. I'd assume

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Speaker 1: it's all guaranteed. I don't know any I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: speculating a lot, but I my guess is that in

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Speaker 1: all future physicals that this is something that the Jaguars

458
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Speaker 1: will probably check players coming in. And maybe they did

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Speaker 1: and they just missed it. Maybe it was um undiagnosed

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Speaker 1: to me. One of the things that we did learn

461
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Speaker 1: is that he does not qualify for the surgery because

462
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Speaker 1: it's not quite enlarged enough. UM, so maybe that caused

463
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Speaker 1: you know, it to go undiagnosed or the test missed it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, but it's just terrible. You feel

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Speaker 1: awful for him, Yeah, that he's having to go through this. UM.

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Speaker 1: You feel awful for the Jaguars or as an organization

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Speaker 1: because they're counting on him, um to help be a

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Speaker 1: uh defensive lignment, that we will get them more fortified

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Speaker 1: against the run, which they were very pooroust last year

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Speaker 1: and and uh struggled as we as well chronicled UM.

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Speaker 1: And so it's it's it's not good for anybody, but

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Speaker 1: I think it caught all of us by surprise, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure in the future will learn a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about how this came about, if there was an

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Speaker 1: event or something, and it would be fascinating to talk

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Speaker 1: if you could, ever I'm not. I'm sure no one

477
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Speaker 1: wants to talk about it right now, but at some

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Speaker 1: point talk to either the Jaguars team doctors or a

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Speaker 1: doctors from another NFL team. That's what you should be doing, Pete,

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Speaker 1: your national guy. I called some other doctors around the

481
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Speaker 1: league and say, hey, is this something that you would

482
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Speaker 1: typically check for during a free agent physical. I mean

483
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Speaker 1: it's it's a legitimate question, and I will check into

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Speaker 1: it because I think you have to check the heart.

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Speaker 1: How could you not, Tony? Yeah, I listen, I don't

486
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Speaker 1: know what. I want you to get a body scan,

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Speaker 1: a body scan like like like a CT scan of

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Speaker 1: your body, look at your organs and stuff and make

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Speaker 1: sure you're healthy. It's really technically sound, Pete. Let me

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Speaker 1: look at your organs and stuff. You know, you drink

491
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Speaker 1: the solution and they check out your organs. You know

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Speaker 1: what that is. So I think if I remember, like

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Speaker 1: I had, remember the combine, you have MRIs in your

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Speaker 1: back and a bunch of different parts of your body,

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Speaker 1: your neck, your head and all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably Houston as a free agent or

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Speaker 1: expansion whatever you were. The dumping they did of you

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Speaker 1: when you went there, Did you do a physical? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, so listen they yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. I mean I did something. I remember

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Speaker 1: my soul. I was so close to post off of

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Speaker 1: my shoulder. They couldn't really do a good look at

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Speaker 1: my shoulder, which I'm sure they wish they could have

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Speaker 1: done all over again. Um post looking back. But I

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Speaker 1: remember being at the hospital doing stuff. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: the extent of it. I'm being honest with your whole body.

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Speaker 1: And they started the top, they would have stopped because

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Speaker 1: they was so there was another but air up there.

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Speaker 1: That was the first one. Was good? That was stupid,

510
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Speaker 1: wasn't it? Dumping? Yeah? Great, a great a dumping from

511
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Speaker 1: the look. Well, this adds to the list of changes

512
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Speaker 1: on the defensive line over the last couple of weeks

513
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: have come hot and heavy for the Jags and all

514
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Speaker 1: different levels. Laurenti McCrae and al Wood's both opt out.

515
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Speaker 1: McCrae was kind of the third option as a run in,

516
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Speaker 1: but he's more of a special teams player. He had

517
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Speaker 1: no impact on the defensive mind right, but he's roosted

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Speaker 1: as a defensive end. That's the point. Dante Bus Russell,

519
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Speaker 1: who was that a lot of last year or an

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Speaker 1: active a lot of last year. He's on injured reserve,

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Speaker 1: Bryan Price, Rodney Gunter as we mentioned, and then you

522
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Speaker 1: see on the screen there gotsus read Davis Tomorrow and

523
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Speaker 1: today Timmy Journey and joined the team, a guy who's

524
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Speaker 1: been around the league for a few years. Welcome to

525
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville first day in Pad's first day on the field

526
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Speaker 1: for Journey again. Um, and we'll see what what he

527
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Speaker 1: can bring on the interior this. I mean, listen, here's

528
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Speaker 1: a couple of things. And you look at that list,

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Speaker 1: ye have Adam got this that came from Denver blew

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Speaker 1: out a knee. You know, he's kind of on a

531
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Speaker 1: prove it deal. And see if his knees back and

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Speaker 1: you know, and what he can do, Um post a

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Speaker 1: c reconstruction. Timmy journins a guy like if you're literally

534
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Speaker 1: picking up guys off the street, like during camp. There's

535
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Speaker 1: a reason. Now, Timmy Journey was an outstanding player at

536
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Speaker 1: his peak, me a really good player. Now the question

537
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: is is what does he have left in the tank?

538
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: Obviously a bunch of teams didn't think very much because

539
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: no one else signed him. Wasn't he Pete close to

540
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: signing in Houston? He didn't. He was asked about that

541
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: today and he didn't have a lot to say about it.

542
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: He didn't. He kind of about that. I don't know

543
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: what that happened there, but he was close to signing

544
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: and Houston. And look, he's a decent player when he's

545
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: on the field. He's not gonna and the player and

546
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: thirty plays the game type of guy right now, and yeah,

547
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Speaker 1: he's they're gonna have the Hamilton has to play. He

548
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: has to be a he has to be a factor

549
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: in there. Well, I'll say the biggest thing that has

550
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: to happen now and not that it didn't before, but

551
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Speaker 1: David Bryant has to be a stud like he's out.

552
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're starting three technique and he's got to

553
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Speaker 1: be productive, and he's gotta be good against the run,

554
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Speaker 1: and he's got to be like a force, like like

555
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Speaker 1: he's the guy like you're going in you start an

556
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Speaker 1: opening day, Give me the four three four, I would say, Avery,

557
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Speaker 1: that knows Tavin at three. I put Josh at the

558
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Speaker 1: big end, and I think in go Oi will be signed.

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Speaker 1: But then I think so listen, first of all, he

560
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Speaker 1: fires his agent. Now he's like, there's the reason he

561
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: fired his agent. He should have fired his getting bad advice. Secondly,

562
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Speaker 1: he's sitting there right now. Nobody is going to pay him.

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Speaker 1: Like right now, if you would be interesting, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you one. You wonder what to be really interesting? If

565
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Speaker 1: the Jaguar said we're taking the tag off you right now,

566
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Speaker 1: would anyone pay him eighteen million dollars to play? Right end?

567
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Speaker 1: For me, they're not paying Clowney eighteen millions? Well, they played,

568
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: the Falcons paid Fouler fifteen it okay, but that's my point.

569
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Speaker 1: Feller also had thirteen sacks last year. Correct, that's my question.

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Speaker 1: A question, Pete, would anyone pay in gon Way right

571
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Speaker 1: now if the jag Wars lifted the tag eighteen million

572
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Speaker 1: dollars a deal that averages eighteen yeah, no, and the

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Speaker 1: jag Wires offered him that and so but my point

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Speaker 1: is he's the franchise at seventeen point nine. If I'm

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Speaker 1: a goa, I'm signing right now me too, because no,

576
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Speaker 1: absolutely no question about it. I don't think he's getting

577
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Speaker 1: that money anywhere else. So that's why. And listen, Yahn's

578
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: a smart dude. Um, he played it out. Thought he

579
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Speaker 1: could get out of here. I thought he could get

580
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: a better deal. Um. I think he was probably getting

581
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Speaker 1: some bad advice from his agent based on the market

582
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Speaker 1: and what was out there. I mean, Clowney is in

583
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Speaker 1: a similar situation. I mean, it's shocking to me that

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Speaker 1: Clowney cannot get signed now. I think ultimately he was

585
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Speaker 1: asking for too much money too. But right now he's

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Speaker 1: an impact player, though he has been when he's been

587
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: on the field, flowny, impactful player. He doesn't wrutch the past.

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Speaker 1: We had three nap sacks last year. Yeah, but I

589
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: think he's disruptive. You watch him on tape. Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't pay you eighteen nineteen million dollars either. I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, what does he get thirteen to fifteen right now? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I give I'd give him a thirteen prove it deal.

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Speaker 1: You know, get some incentives in it. You gotta get

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Speaker 1: ten double digit sacks, which he's never had. I'll give

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Speaker 1: him more money. But you're right, I think a go

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Speaker 1: will be there, no question about it. Let's come back.

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Speaker 1: on film. I saw that now being up close with him,

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Speaker 1: he has that power of Andre Johnson. You know, I

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Speaker 1: hold Andre in high regards that's my guy with good friends.

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Speaker 1: But I've all also seen him work every day. Uh

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Speaker 1: see the power that he has. Uh he he kind

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Speaker 1: of reminds me a little bit of of Andre. He

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Speaker 1: has that type of power. Keenan mccartel, Jaguars wide receivers coach,

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Speaker 1: discussing rookie wide receiver love this Chris chin Al junior

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Speaker 1: high praise for the rookie out of Colorado picked in

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Speaker 1: the second round. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. J P.

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Speaker 1: Shadrick of pe Crisco and Tony was Sally for the

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Speaker 1: first time in will be with you each and every

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Speaker 1: Monday throughout the regular season and hopefully beyond for this

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Speaker 1: Jaguars team. But you know, I was walking in camp

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Speaker 1: the other day a couple of days ago, and it

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Speaker 1: was the first time I had been somewhat close. We're

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Speaker 1: still distanced, of course, from the players, and you can't

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Speaker 1: go anywhere near them, but there are certain places on

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Speaker 1: the edge of the practice field where they run nearer

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Speaker 1: you than others. And that was my first up close

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Speaker 1: look at this guy. And I think he's listed six one,

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Speaker 1: two twenty seven. He is all of that pete and

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Speaker 1: it seems to be rock solid this guy. That's big praise.

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Speaker 1: When Keenan's talking names like that, throwing those guys really

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Speaker 1: big brace and when you look at his body, he

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Speaker 1: looks like those guys. He's a big physical guy. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know he runs as well as Andre Johnson did,

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Speaker 1: but I will say this, the one thing that held

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Speaker 1: him back in college was the only thing that held

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Speaker 1: the bank college was health. He went on the field

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Speaker 1: all the time. When he's on the field, he was

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Speaker 1: when he was on the field as a productive player,

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Speaker 1: big physical, strong, could go get the ball. I think

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Speaker 1: they might have a steel on him because if he

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Speaker 1: stays on the field, they need that big physical presence there.

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Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense. And hear Keenan say

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Speaker 1: that he might want to slow it down just just

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Speaker 1: a little bit. He only meant, he only meant by

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Speaker 1: the body type in this style. That's all. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, i'd agree you know what he said, Pete.

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Speaker 1: I would add that Keenan probably needs to get some

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Speaker 1: coloring on that beard, a little bit of gray. That's

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Speaker 1: what I was thinking. Who is that old guy got right? Um? Yeah, listen,

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Speaker 1: if you go back this and all uh the year

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Speaker 1: before he came out. I mean he was, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the most powerful receivers at all college football,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people say, if you have come out,

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Speaker 1: then he had been maybe a top fifteen pick. He

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Speaker 1: had the what the sports turney of injury is going

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Speaker 1: his last year in Colorado limited. His explosiveness was still good,

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Speaker 1: was still a productive player, but it also heard him

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Speaker 1: as he's trying to get ready for the Combine, so

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Speaker 1: he really never saw the speed and explosiveness that he has.

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Speaker 1: He looks healthy, he looks good out there. I think

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Speaker 1: it's w It's too early to start making comparisons de

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson or Ant kom Bolden, both great players, border

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Speaker 1: line hall of famers, maybe hall of famers. It just depends. Um.

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Speaker 1: But boy, keen need have seen a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: and he's been around a lot of really good receivers.

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Speaker 1: And the one thing I will say about Keenan he

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Speaker 1: does not throw around compliments um that easily. So it's

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Speaker 1: not like he is a guy who speaks in hyperbole

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Speaker 1: and is always pumping guys up a little bit more

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Speaker 1: than they need to be. So UM, I trust Keen

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Speaker 1: I think he's a heck of a receiver coach and

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Speaker 1: uh and that's a good sign. And if listen, if

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Speaker 1: Snal can even live up to that praise, it's a win. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he has done a really good job with

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Speaker 1: the receivers. I think he's a good coach. Eventually he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be an offensive coordinator. Who knows, maybe down the

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Speaker 1: road he could be a head coach. But but he's

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Speaker 1: done a really good job with that group. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at d J. Chark. I mean he took big

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Speaker 1: strides last year and I think Keaton has a lot

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Speaker 1: to do with it. I always say this, Keenan was

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Speaker 1: one of the best route runners I've ever seen in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, Bruce Isaac Bruce was one of them,

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Speaker 1: but Keenan was right there with him. He was special.

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Speaker 1: And that's a great thing to have if you're a receiver,

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Speaker 1: to be able to have that guy teach you. No

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Speaker 1: doubt about that, and hopefully it'll pay off for Jay Gruden,

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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator for the Jacksonville Jaguars, new offense, second

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Speaker 1: year quarterback and Gardner Minshew. They've met virtually over the

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Speaker 1: off season program, but finally they're on the field together.

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Speaker 1: What does Gruden think of his signal caller in the huddle. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've mainly, like I said, we're starting installed and meeting

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Speaker 1: potatoes of our offense. And Garter has been great. Man.

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Speaker 1: He's had a good off season. We had the virtual

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Speaker 1: off season, so we got a little jump start on

747
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Speaker 1: it um and then he carried over until when we

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Speaker 1: came back and started meeting here recently. So we got

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Speaker 1: a long way to go. Yeah, a long way to go.

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Speaker 1: He said. This offense is in diapers still the other day,

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Speaker 1: so a lot left to be installed and learned. But

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Speaker 1: I guess what the clock's taking a little bit opening

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Speaker 1: day and what a thirteen padded practices between now an

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Speaker 1: opening day? Uh, that's a lot to get done, Peter

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Speaker 1: in a short amount of time. A new offense, a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback, a young team overall. How challenging will this

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Speaker 1: be for j Gruden? Well, I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really challenging because clearly you want to see on the

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Speaker 1: field work in in you know, May and and you

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Speaker 1: didn't get that. So it will set the offense back

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And when you're young, offense is set

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Speaker 1: it back even more, particularly the young quarterback. But Tony

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Speaker 1: could speak to that better than I have. Tony. You

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Speaker 1: just say you were starting a season and you had

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Speaker 1: twenty days days, not just padded practices to get everything

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Speaker 1: in as a young offense, can you get it in?

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Speaker 1: Are you asking me as a veteran that's about twenty

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Speaker 1: it's about fifteen days more than I might need. Um.

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Speaker 1: But again to your point, I'm talking about from a

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Speaker 1: perspective of the veteran who's been in an offense for

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Speaker 1: a long time, because you understand that, you understand the

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Speaker 1: concepts and what you're doing and everything else. The question

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Speaker 1: I have, because I agree with you, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it is enough time to get everything you want in

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Speaker 1: with a brand new offense with a young quarterback and

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Speaker 1: young skilled position. You're counting he's talking about some not

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Speaker 1: You're gonna count him Djin Shark, young player. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know you got your offensive line, some young players there,

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Speaker 1: some veterans good there. I guess uh. And so I

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Speaker 1: think it's difficult to get everything in. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you think about the traditional install period, especially when you

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Speaker 1: have a new coaching staff, new offensive coordinator, UM is

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Speaker 1: typically you you want to install the things three times.

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Speaker 1: You install them at the beginning O t A S.

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Speaker 1: You install them again, uh when you're on the field stuff,

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Speaker 1: so around your mini camp, and then you install the

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Speaker 1: third time for training camp. And so you want to

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Speaker 1: go through it multiple times to get everything in and

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Speaker 1: to get everyone comfortable with the language and the philosophy

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Speaker 1: and the nuances of the offense. Um. Everything has been virtual.

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Speaker 1: So they did the one install over zoom. I worry

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Speaker 1: about what was the attention span of guys over zoom.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you. I mean I've

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Speaker 1: been living in this virtual world that I'm doing web

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Speaker 1: exits for work and everything else. And unless you're really disciplined,

796
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Speaker 1: it's easy to have your mind drift and looking at

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Speaker 1: your computer and your phone and doing different things because

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Speaker 1: it's hard to monitor. It's not like you're in a

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Speaker 1: meeting together. UM. And so I think, how much do

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Speaker 1: guys uh pick up? How much? How much gets absorbed?

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Speaker 1: There would be interesting to really you know, first time

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Speaker 1: installed in person is right now, and I think you're

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Speaker 1: j grew and you have the parent path. I mean

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Speaker 1: you really have to decide, Okay, what what portion? Maybe

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Speaker 1: we only put eighty percent of the offense and compared

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Speaker 1: to what we do in the past because of the

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Speaker 1: young quarterback and the kind of the pandemic situation. We

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Speaker 1: fired ourselves in Sonny the first year, you guys are

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Speaker 1: all came together. Well, if you had to be in

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Speaker 1: this same same type of same type of situations, how

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Speaker 1: much do the offense could you have put in? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's my guess. It's a wild guess.

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Speaker 1: And I look at that first year when we were

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Speaker 1: putting everything new in UM and now was all new players,

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Speaker 1: all new coaches. At least you have some familiarity with

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Speaker 1: guys that you were here last year, so it's not

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Speaker 1: quite as dire. But I mean, I look at the

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Speaker 1: multiple o t as we had, many camps we had,

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Speaker 1: and then we went to training camp July six July.

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Speaker 1: Remember that. Let that settle in for all you listening.

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Speaker 1: That was six weeks ago. And so yeah, well something

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Speaker 1: you flew home on a private jet, didn't have the

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Speaker 1: whole training. Yeah, that's you still have some guys, some

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Speaker 1: guys who work in this building now in the building

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Speaker 1: didn't show up. You remember that's a different that's the

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Speaker 1: name of name Logan. He showed up July eleven. But still,

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Speaker 1: I mean so, but think about and we had five

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Speaker 1: preseason games. I mean, think how much time we have

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Speaker 1: the insult no preseason little. I mean, I just don't

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Speaker 1: think you can get it all in. I would Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's the question. There's some veterans. I would say, do

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Speaker 1: you point is it a way? Is there a way

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Speaker 1: to point the install toward the early opponents in the season,

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Speaker 1: or is it installed totally separate from that kind of thing?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you crafted to the first two or

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Speaker 1: three weeks upon it? I think that's dangerous because you

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Speaker 1: have to put the concepts and it's the philosophy like

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Speaker 1: who you are you're gonna be good at. You have

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Speaker 1: to figure that out as a coaching step, like not

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00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: all players can do all things. Like I'm of the

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Speaker 1: opinion that Leondard, for net, is a better back out

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Speaker 1: of the eye then single back. I think he's run

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Speaker 1: better and so that determines like what you want to do. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting because I think Gardner mints you is better

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Speaker 1: at a shotgun ben underneath, And so you have to

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Speaker 1: I'm at the Home studio. He is in his home studio.

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Speaker 1: Tony is in an undisclosed location. That's how I do it,

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Speaker 1: undisclosed location. CIA, where are you? No, it's it's private.

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Speaker 1: not at liberty to say, Tony, Tony, you have you

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Speaker 1: Three uh three times? Yeah, he's I mean it stinks.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, I was in undisclosed small market playing golf

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Speaker 1: of the younger guys and guys that have been here

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Speaker 1: to step up. We're not going to focus on things

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Speaker 1: that are outside of you know, the building, at least

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Speaker 1: the coaches and the players aren't, whereas myself and Dave

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Speaker 1: and the scouts you know, will look at things and

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Speaker 1: discuss things. You know. Our focus still needs to, you know,

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Speaker 1: be on the players that are here, the coaches that

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Speaker 1: are here, and getting the guys that we have good enough, um,

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Speaker 1: you know too for us to be winning football team.

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Speaker 1: Doug moron As were the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Tony Baselli, Pete Prisco training camp under way.

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Speaker 1: The first day of padded practices today only ninety minutes

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Speaker 1: allowed by league rules and what has continued to be

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Speaker 1: a strange training camp so far. The ramp up period

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Speaker 1: is complete. The guys are in pads now and then

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Speaker 1: they'll expand that time the next few days and then

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Speaker 1: have full practices with pads few days from now. About

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Speaker 1: eleven full practices are on the docket in the days

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Speaker 1: moving ahead. But Doug Morone, there guys discussing all the

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Speaker 1: changes that have happened the last week or two, especially

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Speaker 1: on the defensive line for this Jaguars football team. The

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Speaker 1: latest yesterday Rodney Gunter on the reserve retired list within

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Speaker 1: large A AWARDA And if you're watching on at Jaguars

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Speaker 1: or Jaguars dot com, you see the full list over

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Speaker 1: the last two or three weeks of transactions on the

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Speaker 1: d line. So a lot of new faces coming in.

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Speaker 1: Some guys that they had counted on in free agency

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Speaker 1: are not going to be available this year, including Al

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Speaker 1: Woods and Rodney Gunter. So a lot of unknown and

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Speaker 1: a lot of change now in this Jaguars defensive line.

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Speaker 1: New offense continues to be installed, and as we've talked

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Speaker 1: about earlier on the show. Today, there's only a limited

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Speaker 1: amount of time to get that done before opening day.

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Speaker 1: You don't have any dress rehearsal games, no preseason games,

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Speaker 1: none of that. You have to go out and practice

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Speaker 1: it and then show up week one ready to play.

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Speaker 1: So a challenge for a young football team. And as

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Speaker 1: Doug Maron said, there, hey, we've got to get these

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Speaker 1: guys that are here ready and then once we get

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Speaker 1: a little closer, maybe down the road, if they have

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Speaker 1: to make some changes and make some additions, there are

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Speaker 1: ways to do that. So there's a lot going on. Pete,

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Speaker 1: this is a lot of a lot of balls in

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01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: the air right now to juggle for Doug Moron and

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Speaker 1: Dave calledwell, yeah, it's a challenge. It was going to

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Speaker 1: be a challenge the young team of coaching staff that

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Speaker 1: had some changes. A co came back, some people thought

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Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna come back, and so there were going

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Speaker 1: to be challenges, and now I think there's even more.

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Speaker 1: They didn't, you know, you don't expect guys to opt

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01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: out like Al Woods and uh, you know, who knew

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01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: there was gonna be a pandemic and Rodney Gunter situation.

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Speaker 1: So on and on it goes, and it's more of

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Speaker 1: a challenge for Doug Brown. I'll tell you we I

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01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: had him in on my show last week and he

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01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: seems as loose as I've ever seen him, almost like

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Speaker 1: he feels free. Maybe he's free of Tom Colford, but

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Speaker 1: he feels free. And he seemed that way. He looks better,

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01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: He lost a bunch of weight, he looks thin, looks healthy,

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Speaker 1: looks seemed like he had a good approach. So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: But it's a challenge. Let's be honest. This is a

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Speaker 1: rebuilding year. Yeah, and I think I agree with all

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Speaker 1: things you said. The interesting thing you bring up a

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Speaker 1: rebuilding year that's hard to sell and get people excited

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01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: when you can't say were it's a rebuilding year after

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01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: coming off seasons of what five and six wins in

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Speaker 1: back to back years, And and that's the difficult, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of task that I think David Doug have right

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01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: now is because the last thing anyone wants to hear

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Speaker 1: is that it's rebuilding. And you know, I think one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons that um as we were explained before

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Speaker 1: the pandemic that uh, Dave and Doug worked what's out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere. Um that your sister bring you a tissue too,

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01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: that'd be great tishing place tissue. Um. But one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons that David Doug came or were stayed and

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Speaker 1: retained is because they gave them the best chance. Give

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Speaker 1: this guy, Clarenceon, I don't even know how to stop.

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01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: It's like there's no cough nor anything in this world

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Speaker 1: we live in right now. Um, sorry, that's very one more.

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Speaker 1: Please they're coming three. But you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But that wasn't that one of the reasons because that

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01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: they kept Doug and Dave because it gave him the

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Speaker 1: best chance with the young quarterback young team to win

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01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: this year and to compete for the division, to compete

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Speaker 1: for the playoffs. And so I think, Pete, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't like what you say. Well, this is

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01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: a rebuilding year, and it's difficult. I mean, the facts

1140
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Speaker 1: of the facts. Look at the roster, look at the

1141
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: young guys. Are gonna be forced to play the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: a young guy. I just don't see how it's anything.

1143
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: But now they might be more competitive in games than

1144
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna give him credit for, particularly with the quarterbacks,

1145
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: better than you know, he was last year. But again,

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01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: on the surface, it looks like a rebuild. But P,

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01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean, j P, would you not agree with that's

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01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: kind of the seniment coming in about keeping the David

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01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: Doug and kind of what we were striving for this year,

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Speaker 1: it seemed like and and and Dave talked about that

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01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: the their day. He had a meeting with the media

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01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: video conference and said, when you know, when they were

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01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: building for seventeen, they had the understanding that this offseason

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make some moves and some changes

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01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: and probably go a little younger. And they have acquired

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Speaker 1: those draft picks, a lot of those for this year,

1157
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: twelve of them had ended up being so they had

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01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: the idea that it was gonna be at some point

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Speaker 1: the way they built that seventeen, it would come. Wait

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Speaker 1: a second, now, so you're telling me in the plan,

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Speaker 1: I mean there was a plan, they said, the way

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Speaker 1: they the way they built that at some point you

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01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: can't pay all those guys forever. Changes. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean I think we all do that.

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Speaker 1: But to say it was part of the plan, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it. Twenty after seventeen, everyone thought that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna win five and six games the next two years.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone thought, like, hey, part of

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Speaker 1: our plans acquired draft picks by getting rid of our

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Speaker 1: best defensive player, Jalen Ramsey. But even now if they

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Speaker 1: one ten games and then nine games and got in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs all three years, but that's the contracts are

1173
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: still the contracts. But yeah, but that's a much different

1174
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: feeling then. I'm just responding to Pete's comment that this

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Speaker 1: is rebuilding. You don't typically say we're rebuilding after winning

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01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: five and six games in consecutive years. That's not what

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Speaker 1: you hear and want to hear and so quickly. At

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Speaker 1: my point, and I'm not disagreeing, I understand what Davi

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01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: is saying that when you paid high free agents and

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Speaker 1: you build the way they did for seventeen, that sooner

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Speaker 1: or later, you know, here it comes calling your salary

1182
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: cap and you gotta, you know, make some changes. I

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01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: just don't think part of those changes would ever envision,

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01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, not having Jan Ramsey on this roster, or

1185
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: not having your fighting within gokway, you know, him not

1186
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: being here. I mean these are two in Dante Fowler,

1187
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: who's the double digit sack guy, I mean, you go

1188
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: down the list. I'm and I agree with that you

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01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: couldn't keep them all. But to say it was part

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01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: of the plan to acquire draft picks to be in

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01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: this situation to rebuild, I just I mean, I have

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Speaker 1: a hard time buying that. That's all. Well, wouldn't you

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01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: rather rebuild to try and build something special than be

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Speaker 1: seven and nine, eight and eight every year? And that's

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01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of like what the Miami Dolphins are doing. Now.

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01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you're asking me, I'd take

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01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: eight eight right now because it was the last time

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01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: this team was eight. Nate isn't good. You'd rather be

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Speaker 1: rebuild the whole thing the right way and get to ten, eleven, ten,

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Speaker 1: ted consistently, not not eight and eight and then have

1201
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Speaker 1: the you know, seven and nine, six and ten seasons

1202
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: and no for something special. Okay, but are you saying

1203
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: that then you should be trying to get like two

1204
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Speaker 1: wins this year and get the first pick overall, Well,

1205
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: that would be a bad thing taking for Trevor Baby Well,

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01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: I guess my point. I'm just this is a response

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Speaker 1: to I think it's difficult to say that after winning

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01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: five and six games that you're in a rebuilding here,

1209
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: because really what you've been that's all I'm saying, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with you eight and hate. If you're

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01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: eight and eight over and over and over again, you

1212
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: never get the right pieces unless you're hit in the

1213
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: draft of those mid rounds, I mean the middle of

1214
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Speaker 1: the each round, which you can do. We've seen teams

1215
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 1: do that. Not all teams go to the very bottom

1216
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: top of the draft and rebuild their way up. I

1217
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: mean you've seen the Ravens and a number of teams

1218
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: that availed to stay at the you know, middle to

1219
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: upper echelon of the NFL for a number of years

1220
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: um and so that's the difficult thing to pete that.

1221
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And so they had the seasons

1222
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: they had, but they weren't expecting them. They had veterans

1223
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: still in place, and like JP said, there was some

1224
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: high price contracts there. Now you get your rid of

1225
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: those and you start building with the younger players. That's

1226
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Speaker 1: why it's more of a rebuild. I know, nobody wants

1227
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: to hear that. When you go fight when you win

1228
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: five games, but two wouldn't be bad. That means you

1229
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence. Oh, and I just do things and

1230
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: we let to beat this up. It's one I don't

1231
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: think anyone likes to hear about rebuilding after winning five

1232
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: and six games. And I just have a hard time

1233
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: believing this is all part of the plan. I mean

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Speaker 1: to what JP was referring to earlier in conversations, like

1235
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: this is part of the plan and we're in a

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01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: good position now. I mean, like, I just have a

1237
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: hard time buying that that we're sitting here in seventeen

1238
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: saying like this has gone to didn't So what's your name, Tony?

1239
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: I didn't say it was part of that's what you said.

1240
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: I said they knew there would be contracts coming up

1241
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: and they would probably have to go younger this year,

1242
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: and that's what they've had to do because of the situations,

1243
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: and didn't expect that. They paid Blake Bortles. They figured

1244
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: he'd be the quarterback. Come on, you pay him, you

1245
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be the quarterback? There were things went wrong.

1246
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: If that was the case, then why did you ever pay?

1247
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: Then you would if that was really the case. Let's

1248
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: say that, like you knew this is what you have

1249
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: to do, why did you pay Blake? You play Blake

1250
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: because you thought you the franchise guy. Okay, that didn't

1251
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: work out, And if you knew that was the case,

1252
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: then why did you give Nick Foles eight million dollars

1253
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: guarantee over four years? Like That's where I just it's

1254
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to say, like it's almost like, hey,

1255
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: it didn't work out the way you want to do,

1256
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: and we now we're gonna start over and we're gonna

1257
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: go young because of contracts that we paid that you know,

1258
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: we're overpriced and didn't work out to our ends. That's

1259
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: it right there, and that's like that's accurate. But to say, like, oh,

1260
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: we knew we'd be in this, then why didn't you

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01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: pay these people all this money? With my question? And

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard to say that and to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna rebuild now wait a second, that's what we

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Speaker 1: we like rebuilding on what. Yeah, they thought two thousand

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Speaker 1: eighteen was an aberration that the guys started reading their

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Speaker 1: press clippings. It went bad, It didn't happen, but they

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Speaker 1: could regroup a nineteen, which is why they went and

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Speaker 1: got Folds, which was a major mistake. I agree with

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Speaker 1: you and then when that kept going bad, then they

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Speaker 1: decided now it's time to do the whole thing. And

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Speaker 1: that's accurate. And really what you find out is that

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Speaker 1: seventeen was the admiration. Correct. You can't win consistently that way,

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Speaker 1: playing that way in the NFL. It's like the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Titans are are legitimate championship team

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Speaker 1: this season? A legitimate Um? No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: But I mean they went to the championship game last year,

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Speaker 1: just like Jaguars did. But I think they're a legitimate,

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Speaker 1: uh wild card playoff team. If I would have said

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Speaker 1: that about Jacksonville in two thousand eighteen, fair, but I'm

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Speaker 1: saying but if you look at it, so I guess

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Speaker 1: my I've always thought that Tanny Hills probably a better

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Speaker 1: quarterback than Portals. Well, he's better, how much he's too

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Speaker 1: front to her yards and two playoff games and they

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Speaker 1: won because they never throw it through it. They handed

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Speaker 1: off every day down and that's not sustainable. That's the point,

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Speaker 1: just like the Jaguars that you and I agree on that.

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Speaker 1: So just um, how as you were talking about the

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Speaker 1: season and expectations everything else, I mean, every year you

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Speaker 1: do your you you know, picked the games and based

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Speaker 1: on the schedule. How many games? I haven't done it yet?

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Speaker 1: Are you haven't done it yet? No, I'm working on it,

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Speaker 1: but I haven't finished it yet. You are you close?

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Speaker 1: I'd say half they're gonna win four games at best,

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Speaker 1: and they'll be competitive in a bunch of them. I

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Speaker 1: think then they're just not good enough. And again, what

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Speaker 1: do you what do you get Minshew, Tony? What do

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Speaker 1: you think he is? We don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I hope he's I mean, I hope, I hope he is.

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Speaker 1: What I've heard early in the training camp from the

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Speaker 1: and spinning it good and he's like taking the step

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Speaker 1: and progressing and everything else. That's what I hope he is. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it. Not that don't it's not that

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it, but I don't believe it until

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Speaker 1: we get into the regular season because so much of

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Speaker 1: that change is once you're under It's so hard to

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Speaker 1: evaluate a young quarterback, you know, without being hit in

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Speaker 1: the pressure. And what's the ceiling pot from an individual

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Speaker 1: or is a team? Yeah? Like from an individual? This

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Speaker 1: is pretty good last year. Yeah, he's pretty good last year.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's see only thirty and you know,

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Speaker 1: let's say fourth and ten. Yeah, that would be a

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Speaker 1: good year if that if he has that year. Do

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Speaker 1: you draft a quarterback if you're in that position? What pick?

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Speaker 1: What pick do I have? And who's on the board? Well,

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Speaker 1: forget if you throw thirty ten Tony Deshaun Watson hasn't

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Speaker 1: thrown thirty in his career. Highest number you get. Maybe

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Speaker 1: if if he goes four thousand, thirty and ten year,

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Speaker 1: passing on Trevor Lawrence if you have the first overall pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm never passing on Trevor Lawrence on fields. I actually

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Speaker 1: seen so little of him playing, so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't seen enough to be fair. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not passing on Trevor Lawrence. Ever, I don't care

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Speaker 1: if they won the Super Bowl and yeah that somebody

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Speaker 1: traded for that pick, you pick them, right, you have to.

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Speaker 1: He said, once in a lifetime quarterback like Andrew luck was,

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Speaker 1: like John Elway was Peyton Manning once and once in

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Speaker 1: a lifetime, let's come back. I think, do you think

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Speaker 1: he's that good? I do, alright, He's not alone in

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Speaker 1: that Tony, that's for sure. I'm not I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: argue it. Let's come back. We'll get into the offensive

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Speaker 1: We're back Taggars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Tony Boselli,

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Speaker 1: Pete Frisco. Glad you're along with us. First Monday show

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Speaker 1: of the season. It's gonna be back with you guys,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to social questions in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: But as promised, it is our Tony Boselli. Look at

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Speaker 1: the offensive line and that the most notable I think

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01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: battle I think right now is a left tackle if

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Speaker 1: you would you even call it a battle Cam Robinson

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Speaker 1: will Richardson, Um, what do you think, Tony? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it should be. I mean, as much as

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Speaker 1: I love Cam Robinson, did you do anything last year

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Speaker 1: to say that you were convinced that he is your

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Speaker 1: left tackle? He said he felt comfortable the last four

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Speaker 1: to five games of the season. He really felt like

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Speaker 1: himself again coming back not off only that that a

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Speaker 1: c LS here, but remember he injured the other's leg

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Speaker 1: early in the season and missed the first two games. Yeah,

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01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: and he listen. I think he's a guy that has

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01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: all kinds of talent and athletic ability and toughness, and

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01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: he's an asthenest about him that I loved having him

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01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: on the football field. However, we talked about it last

1405
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: Thursday night, the footwork issues that he had pre date

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01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: in the A c L and issues. You know, you

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01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: could say that early in the his second year he

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01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: was not playing great football when he got hurt. Um,

1409
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 1: he struggled obviously coming back from it and then had

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01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: another injury. Um. I love the toughness and the grit

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01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: that he showed. Uh. And so I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: based on all that, I was shocked last year they

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01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: didn't give Will Richardson a chance to overtake him at

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Speaker 1: left tackle, especially the way Will Richardson played in those

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Speaker 1: first two games. So I think it should be a

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Speaker 1: real competition. Um. I think they should, you know, have

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Speaker 1: wide open competition. Breeds, Um, you know, higher play in

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Speaker 1: true competitors, which I think both of them are. I

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Speaker 1: think that Cam Robbins will end up winning the job,

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Speaker 1: but if I was the coach, I wouldn't just give

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Speaker 1: it to him. Um, by no means would I do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but how do you decide who's the guy from the

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Speaker 1: eleven batted practices? Yeah, that's impossible. That's the flip side

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Speaker 1: I mean. So that's why I think it's gonna end

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Speaker 1: up being camp Robinson, because I don't think there's enough

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01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: opportunities for Will which they overtake them. But you give him,

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Speaker 1: you can only get him a couple of three games

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Speaker 1: to make sure he's playing better football than you make

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Speaker 1: the change. Right now, I'm evaluating, I mean the messages

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, listen, we're gonna evaluate this weekend, week out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a competitive process. And and obviously, at

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Speaker 1: some point, if Cam plays at the level we know

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Speaker 1: he's all capable of and we all hope he plays that,

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Speaker 1: didn't you know, he solidifies that starting left tackle position.

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Speaker 1: But until then, I give richest in the chance and

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Speaker 1: to compete and practice and try to give him as

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Speaker 1: may looks as possible. But this is one of the

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Speaker 1: things that this pandemic shortened training camp is gonna cause,

1439
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Speaker 1: is gonna be part of the mean one of the

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Speaker 1: effects of it is hard for guys who are fighting

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Speaker 1: for positions and they're not the incumbent, it's hard for

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Speaker 1: them to overtake and win that job. So so you

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Speaker 1: would say on opening day, Cam Robinson stocks no matter,

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Speaker 1: no matter what. Yeah. The interesting thing is and for

1445
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: an offensive line that was highly criticized last year and

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01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: not being very productive and literally to the point where

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Speaker 1: the head coach said he couldn't play Nick Foles because

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Speaker 1: he wasn't he needed a quarterback who could run around

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Speaker 1: and extend plays. If you remember that was part of

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Speaker 1: the justification of going to um Gardner Minshew was his

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Speaker 1: ability to get out of trouble. Never what you want

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Speaker 1: to hear as an offensive line, they're like, hey, my

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Speaker 1: our head coach is going with the guy who can

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Speaker 1: make people miss um. But but that's what he said. Um.

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Speaker 1: In light of that, I think they're gonna roll out

1456
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Speaker 1: the same exact offensive line that they had last year

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Speaker 1: that for all sixteen games. Well, the hope is Taylor

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01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: plays looks better and he was good, but he plays

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Speaker 1: much better in the second season. You hope is that

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Cam Robinson's healthy again and maybe he's picked

1461
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: some of his footwork issues. I think Linda is solid

1462
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: in the middle. Norwell has his games where he looks good.

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01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: Sammy looks bad, but he's been okay. And then the

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Speaker 1: right guard inconsistency has been his major problem. A j Can.

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Speaker 1: One game he looks like he's a really good player.

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01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: In the next game, he looks like he's not very good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got Ben Bart, the young kid from St. John.

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01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: He played right away though, I think, but I mean,

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01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: I think ultimately that's what they like him to fight

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01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: for that right guard position. He's a big, physical guy.

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01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: UM played tackle and you know Division three football, So

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna you know, especially with no

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01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: preseason or anything else, I don't think he'll end up

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01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: uh in that starting lineup. So I think it's gonna

1475
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: be you know, Cam ROMs in Norwell, Linda can, John Taylor,

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: sat group we have last year, Um, going into the

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01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: first week. It'll be interesting though, and I really, um,

1478
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 1: I think you got to give Will Richardson an opportunity

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01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: based on what we saw last year. Al Right, guys,

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01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: I know Tony, it's your favorite segment Every Monday. Social

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01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: media questions questions from our listening audience. We put out

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01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: the ask early in the day. Here's what we received.

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01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: Let's start. I'm a man of the people. No you're not.

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01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 1: YEA question one from at Marcus Parsley. Will the Jags

1485
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: rotate the rookie and Avery Jones at nose tackle at

1486
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: early downs? Where will we see a big guy signing

1487
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: to reduce the rookies snap count? Tony is gonna play?

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01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if anyone who thinks that just

1489
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: because he was a you know, what was your fourth

1490
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: round draft pick? Um Adam while state that he's going

1491
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 1: to be the guy I mean Devon Hamilton's, I mean

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01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: Avery Jones will be your starter. I think Devon Hamilton's

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01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: will come in as a rotational player and maybe he

1494
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: wins the job. I said it earlier. I think you're

1495
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 1: starting pour down Lineman or Josh Allen, Abey Jones, Paymon

1496
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: Bryant and Yanniqn Gockway. I don't think there is anyone

1497
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: to go get um out there that he's gonna come

1498
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: in and help you. The only creative thing that I

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01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: heard that could be a possibility. Can you trade Unique

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01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: and Gockway because you have uh Chase on Um to

1501
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: step up in there. Can you trade him for a

1502
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: big body interior defensive linement. There are guys still out there.

1503
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: Isn't snacks. No Marcel Daris is still out there. Yeah,

1504
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I hear funny and I think I think

1505
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: he's pretty much done the since I've heard that too. Yeah,

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01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: I think Marcel has done a lot of money his career.

1507
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: Marcell absolutely has absolutely has. Our next question from at

1508
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: newly Bill, and this is kind of what we're talking about.

1509
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: A moment ago in the offensive line, do you the

1510
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: old line will step up this year and perform to

1511
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: their potential and can Ben Bart enter the starting lineup Tony.

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01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Ben bars will start to be in

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01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 1: the starting lineup unless there's an injury early in the season.

1514
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 1: I think he has a chance maybe throughout the season

1515
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: UM to have They'll definitely get him in there and

1516
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: see what he can do. I think it's the same

1517
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: five guys. I hope that they're much better and I

1518
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: think literally I'm gonna put a lot of it on

1519
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: Camer Robinson. I think Cam Robinson is a guy that

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01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: just needs to continue to play up to his potential

1521
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 1: what they draft about Alabama to do, and that's to

1522
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: be a franchise left back. He's been a little tune

1523
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: and consistent. Um he's a good powerful run blocker and

1524
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: his footwork in the past game which we've talked about,

1525
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: Jeff and I've talked about beating and I've talked about

1526
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: we've gone through it on film. Um, he has some

1527
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: real technique flaws that he has to clean up. If

1528
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: he can do that, I think he's an outstanding player.

1529
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: And it's a big year for Cam Robinson because if

1530
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,839
Speaker 1: he plays well, I mean he's looking at making seventeen

1531
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: to nineteen million dollars next year in the open market

1532
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: if he has a really good year at left back.

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01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean that's what those guys are getting paid now, Tony.

1534
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: Who the swing tackle'll be Will Richardson? Yep, uh, you'll

1535
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: keep Ben Barks. That's two Shad Lee maybe. Where who's

1536
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: the ninth lineman or the tenth lineman? Where these guys

1537
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: coming from, I mean who knows. I mean you're gonna

1538
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys on practice squad as well.

1539
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: I mean it'll be interesting, and I think they're gonna

1540
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: have flexibility bringing guys up and down because of COVID nineteen.

1541
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: So um, it's I don't think you're looking at just

1542
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: nine eight nine. I mean you might be looking at

1543
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: fourteen with the extra practic squad guys and you're keeping

1544
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: Before we move on from that, we were talking about

1545
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: tight ends. One of the problems with the run game

1546
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: last year is they couldn't block. Yeah, yeah, right, And

1547
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: so if you look at it, and this is so

1548
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: before I before I get there, peak and I wanted

1549
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: to say something again that I just said it for

1550
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: the first time. Um, but it's shocked. I mean Cam Rowlson,

1551
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: if he had some good year, could make seventeen to

1552
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 1: nineteen million dollars. Well, he looks like you and your prime.

1553
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Then I'm talking about the kid, Uh Houston's getting Larry

1554
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: Tumpson's getting twenty two a year because I'm not saying

1555
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: he is, you know, but like, okay, if he I

1556
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 1: just said, if he comes out and has a really

1557
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: good year as a left tackle, Okay, would you agree

1558
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: he's making fifteen minimum? Yes, I mean Eric Flower's got

1559
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: ten a year. He couldn't block you. I mean he's

1560
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: getting fifteen sixteen, seventeen. It's a big year for Cam Robinson.

1561
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: So I said to say that again because I said

1562
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 1: it once and I was like, wow, there's a lot

1563
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: riding on this year, um for Cam w and I

1564
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: wish him the best. I hope he gets paid. Tight

1565
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 1: End is still a huge concern for me. But they

1566
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: could not run the ball because the tight end issues.

1567
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 1: Josh Albert was never a blocker. He's gone. James of

1568
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Shaughnessy coming off a knee injury. I don'm thinking is

1569
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: he out there yet even practicing JP? But you know,

1570
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: we know what you know, coming back from an a

1571
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 1: C L means it takes time. You have Tyler Eiffert

1572
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: not never been known as a dominant blocker, you know

1573
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: in this league even when healthy. UM, and then you

1574
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: have to Tyl Tyler Davis is your UM. And Charles Jones.

1575
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the depth chart right now. You have

1576
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: Charles Jones, and who else do you have about there

1577
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: that could even draft pick from Georgia Tech played most

1578
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: of his time at you John and um yeah, O'Shaughnessy

1579
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 1: was off the side today, but he's on and off

1580
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: depending on the day. They don't have one. I mean,

1581
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: Charles Jones would probably be the one, is the one blocker,

1582
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: but again he's an undrafted second year player that barely

1583
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: played it all last year. Like again, you look at it,

1584
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: um and not that there was a lot of things.

1585
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could have gotten into the

1586
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper uh uh, you know, sweepstakes and overpaid for

1587
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 1: a free agent tight end. He's a big physical I

1588
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: that you know maybe would have helped you out there. Um.

1589
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: You know there was all the complaints about uh uh

1590
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: David and Jocko from Cleveland. Maybe he was looking to lead,

1591
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: but he's more a possession guy. Uh. But my point

1592
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: is they haven't solved it. I mean they have if

1593
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: you look at this, here's an amazing thing. They let

1594
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: go of Marcedes Louis after the seventeen season, and Marcedes

1595
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: Lewis was never gonna scare you as a great receiver,

1596
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: but it was good red zone player and an outstanding blocker.

1597
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: But I'm not mistaken. He's still playing for the Green

1598
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. He's still in the upper echelant blocker tight

1599
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: ends in the NFL. And we let him go from

1600
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: a team that wants to run the ball and we

1601
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: have yet to replace him on this team. Yeah, that's

1602
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: one of their mistakes. Chris. You've got to be able

1603
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 1: to block the edge, and that's been a major problem.

1604
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: Well and and you're talking about a low price position.

1605
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what he's making a Green Bay,

1606
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: but a couple of million dollars in today's NFL, I

1607
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 1: mean the general public, it's a ton of money, a

1608
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: ton of money for the three of us on this show.

1609
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: We love two million dollars to do the show, um,

1610
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: if anyone's listening, Um. But in the NFL, you know,

1611
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, it's not a lot of money.

1612
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 1: And I it's for a team that wants to run

1613
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: the ball, Um, it is concerning. And for a team

1614
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: that wants to throw the ball, it's concerning because again,

1615
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 1: where is the where is the threat at the tight

1616
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,799
Speaker 1: end position in the passing game? Like even Tyler Eiffer,

1617
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: who is healthy for the first time and what two

1618
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: or three years last year pete Um, you still think

1619
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: he only had forty five catches. But he's when he's

1620
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: really truly healthy, he's a threat. He's a threat, but

1621
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a great blocker, like you mentioned.

1622
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: One final social question from at Kempy under School, Ryan,

1623
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: and this is about the tight end. We talked about

1624
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: this earlier. It's a little aggressive, but is John that

1625
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous? This is embarrassing to me. I don't

1626
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: think it's fair to the key it um. It's not

1627
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 1: like we don't let's not put stuff like up on

1628
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: the screen like this, because I don't like doing that.

1629
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 1: The young guys, well, we talked about it earlier about Yeah,

1630
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's just cold. You don't know, I don't

1631
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: know if it's anything, but when a guy has injuries

1632
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: the first two years, Tony guys starting answering the question.

1633
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: That's fine, but made him glass. I mean that's taking

1634
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 1: a shot at him, and I think it's uncalled. You

1635
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: don't like that. I know you don't like that. So

1636
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: on the other side, we'll do we should do something

1637
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 1: that you really like. We should cut the team. First

1638
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: of all, we said this and you walked away, Pete

1639
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,799
Speaker 1: or you weren't listening because your headset is the worst,

1640
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 1: is iniquated. The same thing I've ever seen. I don't

1641
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, and uh is that there's

1642
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: only eighty guys in camp. You're gonna keep fifty five

1643
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 1: on the active roster and sixteen on practice squad. You're

1644
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 1: cutting nine guys. Let's do it. Well, come back, we

1645
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: might be cutting the roster. When we return, we will

1646
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: go around the a f C South and touch on

1647
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: all the divisional opponents. Get your social questions in next week.

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Speaker 1: a real tough and like real like sensitive situation, especially

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01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: when you know we're all coming together, hasn't been around

1702
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 1: each other for quite some time, and um, we get

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01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: tested daily. So it's mainly just staying safe and like

1704
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: mask up at all times. I mean, I don't have

1705
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 1: to wear my mask right now, but I just know

1706
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 1: wearing it just promotes people to like make sure that

1707
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: they have theirs one at all times, because it's just's key.

1708
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 1: It's not really about you personally wearing the mask. It's

1709
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 1: about like helping others out around you. Well, he might

1710
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: not be able to tell with the mask on. But

1711
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: that was Jared Wilson, Jaguars Safety and Jaguars Happy Our

1712
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: rolls along, j P Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pie Prisco our

1713
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: first Monday show of many at hand here in the

1714
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: INNFL season. You know, Yeah, that's it was. He was

1715
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: wearing that under his helmet the other day, Pete. It's

1716
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: not just in the building for him. He was actually

1717
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 1: trying that type of mask out, a normal mask like

1718
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 1: you and I would wear walking around into a restaurant

1719
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, under the helmet, just to see how it

1720
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: works out. This is the time where guys are are

1721
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: trying different things, whether it's the the full face shield

1722
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: with advisor above there over the eyes and then the

1723
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: mouth and nose shield below that that Oakley has created,

1724
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: or a mask underneath. The first few days and helmets

1725
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 1: are a good time to try those different things out. Yeah,

1726
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can play with that pulled

1727
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 1: up over your nose and mouth. I would have problems

1728
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: with that. And here's the thing, and I don't know

1729
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 1: what kind of mask that is. But if I mean,

1730
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: there was a study that just came out, you know

1731
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: that the gators and bandanna bandanas and that looked like

1732
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: a gator to me. But I don't want to speak

1733
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 1: to what kind of materials may it of, but that

1734
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: it's actually creates a higher rate, or it's more dangerous,

1735
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: or it's worse to wear a gator or a bandana

1736
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: as a mask because of what it does through the droplets.

1737
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: It actually makes them a finer air assault and they

1738
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: hang in the air longer than if you wore no

1739
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 1: mask at all. And so I mean, this came from Duke.

1740
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 1: This is not you know, this is not to Tony

1741
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: Boselli School of Medicine. This is actually Duke, which is

1742
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: I didn't know we had two doctors on the show.

1743
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I believe it was in the

1744
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. Duke University,

1745
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 1: very obviously well respected. What it tells me a mask

1746
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,799
Speaker 1: is not a mask, and so what you wear matters.

1747
01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: And what they're telling. What they're saying is a gay

1748
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 1: or in a bandana, and that looks like a gat

1749
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 1: or to me. Again, maybe it's a different kind of

1750
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 1: material because the guy's in the NFL, you know, different

1751
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 1: resources or whatever. Um, But you know, just to wear

1752
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 1: it because it's you feel like it's like the right

1753
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:14,560
Speaker 1: thing to do from like make sure we were in

1754
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 1: the right kind of mask. I'm with Pete as if

1755
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 1: I was a player number one year outside. UM, the

1756
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: risk of transmission. If you look at all the experts

1757
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 1: on any side of the aisle and any anything else.

1758
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: If you're outside, you know, the ready to transmission is

1759
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: much much lower. UM. And I would not wear anything now.

1760
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 1: If I was told I had to wear one of

1761
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: those face shields, I obviously would. I'm not going to

1762
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 1: not play, But if it's up to me, I'm not

1763
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: gonna wear anything because of the heat UM nowhere, I'm

1764
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: wearing a gator uh or anything else. If I don't

1765
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 1: have to. That would be my personal choice. Unless unless

1766
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,560
Speaker 1: I was told by the NFL and the p A

1767
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: that hey, listen, we want all the players to wear

1768
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: these oakleff Field, mass Field or whatever, then obviously you

1769
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,839
Speaker 1: got to do it. Now. I haven't been to anybody's facility,

1770
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: but talking to a lot of guys around the league,

1771
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: owners have spent a lot of money to try and

1772
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: make their facilities safe for the football players and JP.

1773
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,600
Speaker 1: Have you been down to the Jaguars facility. I have

1774
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: not been in the buildings since you haven't either, right, No, no,

1775
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 1: But like they put up all different types of uh

1776
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, guard guard rails and uh everything, plastic weight

1777
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: room in the weight rooms which haven't been big enough,

1778
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 1: they made them outside for him. I mean, they've done

1779
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: a part plexiglass everywhere. They've done a great job, and

1780
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: it's an expensive thing and those tests costs a lot

1781
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: of money. So let's just hope that some knucklehead on

1782
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 1: some team that's like player number seventy seven doesn't decide

1783
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 1: that he's going to go out to the bar and

1784
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 1: bask in his short shelf life as an NFL player.

1785
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,719
Speaker 1: And I'm back in fact, everybody or sneak a female

1786
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 1: friend into the facility a dressed as a player. That

1787
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: was amazing. What if the star had done that when

1788
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 1: they have caught him. No, No, that's that's the greatness

1789
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 1: of coaches. Though we're consistent. We treat everybody the saying no,

1790
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 1: you don't. Yeah, so you're telling me that if Russell

1791
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: Wilson got caught sneaking his wife into the facility dressed

1792
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 1: as a player, that Pete's gonna cut her eyes and

1793
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 1: it would not even have been reported, Like, no one

1794
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: would ever have found out about it have been buried. Um.

1795
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 1: But those guys though, to those young players at the end,

1796
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 1: But that's where you need the veteran leaders to step

1797
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 1: up and say, guys, listen, we gotta take the serious

1798
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: because it's affecting all of our pay in this league

1799
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 1: and everything else. So yeah, you can't be stupid. And

1800
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 1: I take my hat off to both the PA and

1801
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: the NFL owners. Um, I think they hand them this

1802
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: really well, not easy, big economic issues in front of you.

1803
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 1: Financial ramifications based on what happens. Um a lot of

1804
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 1: risk out there economically and health wise. And if you

1805
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 1: watch the Major League Baseball like just fall all over

1806
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: themselves and not be able to figure it out, and

1807
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: really around a sport that probably easier to manage less players,

1808
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 1: the dial of the game and everything else, and they

1809
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: literally couldn't figure out because the economics reasons. It was

1810
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: embarrassing and for me at least, I thought it was

1811
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 1: didn't look good. And here comes the NFL, the most

1812
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 1: complex sport to play during the pandemic, the most players

1813
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 1: on the team close quarters, impossible to have social distancing

1814
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: when you're on the field. And I take my hat

1815
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: off to the Players Association and niphoners because they got

1816
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:45,799
Speaker 1: it done and for the most part it was pretty

1817
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 1: dang smooth. Obviously intense moments back and forth using the

1818
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 1: media where they needed to to get their message across,

1819
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 1: normal negotiations, but never a risk of not playing, never

1820
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 1: a risk of not starting camp on time, and the

1821
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 1: owners did a very good job of using making sure.

1822
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,560
Speaker 1: Like to your point, Pete, I've heard it across the

1823
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: league that the owners invested big dollars to make sure

1824
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: players were as safe as possible. Yeah, but you know,

1825
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 1: here's the difference with baseball. Baseball's traveling. You know how

1826
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 1: guys are and you know nobody wants that's you're missing

1827
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 1: my point. No travel whatever. I'm talking about the front end.

1828
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 1: They couldn't figure it out, the economics of it. You know,

1829
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 1: I agree with you there. They wasted about a month

1830
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 1: trying to haggle with each other. And but you're talking

1831
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 1: about the test. But the testing also is interesting because

1832
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,879
Speaker 1: remember the NFL thought that were gonna be a boatload

1833
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: of guys when they came back that tested positive, and

1834
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 1: there wasn't And a majority of those guys have already

1835
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 1: come back. Baseball the Marlins go out on the road

1836
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:50,600
Speaker 1: and they infect fifteen guys. So yeah, I think I

1837
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: think that's the biggest difference. They're still in first place.

1838
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: You gotta be first of all. You gotta be smart too.

1839
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: You can't go out to the clubs and go out

1840
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: and party in and bars and everything else. If you're

1841
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 1: a young guy, and I get it as a young guy,

1842
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: that's what you like to do. But right now in

1843
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 1: this world, if you want to be a professional and

1844
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 1: you want to play sports, you just can't do it.

1845
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 1: I mean, listen. I had an article in the break

1846
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: in the Roll Street Journal about the University of North

1847
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:16,719
Speaker 1: Carolina just canceled all fall classes on on campus classes

1848
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 1: a C C team, you talk about ramifications. I wonder

1849
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,639
Speaker 1: if they're gonna even play football now, because if they're

1850
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 1: not gonna allow the regular student on campus, are they

1851
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 1: gonna football players on camps? And the reason was is

1852
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: because after ten days I think it was being back

1853
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: on campus, they're like almost two hundred or just under

1854
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 1: two hundred positive cases a thirty percent positive case around

1855
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 1: of tests they gave. Because these kids come back and

1856
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: their kids are like you and I, Pete and JP,

1857
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:44,560
Speaker 1: we were all the same way. You get back. You

1858
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 1: want to hang out, you go party, you know, I

1859
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 1: go to your friends and do whatever you're gonna do.

1860
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 1: But colleges, like, that's why I think college is gonna

1861
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: have a hard time trying to figure this whole thing out.

1862
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 1: As much as I want to football to be played,

1863
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 1: because you have so many factors and variables around kids

1864
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 1: on a campus, but this is has to be different.

1865
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: If you're in the NFL, this is your job. Like

1866
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 1: my wife and I was funny, we were talking about this,

1867
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 1: and I'd love to get your guys opinion, and we

1868
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 1: were talking about, like, where would I do because you

1869
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 1: had players opt out and everything else, which I respect.

1870
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 1: And you know, every soldier, a fellow left out, will

1871
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 1: opted out, his child has has had cancer and everything else.

1872
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:24,879
Speaker 1: And some guys have opted out because they have newborn babies.

1873
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 1: I respect all that. But my wife and I asked,

1874
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 1: and I said, what do you think we would do?

1875
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: And basically her response was like, this is what we're

1876
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:33,560
Speaker 1: gonna do. You're gonna go stay at the hotel for

1877
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 1: six months and go play football because that's your damn job.

1878
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: And I'll say home to take care of the kids.

1879
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:39,560
Speaker 1: It was interesting because it was like, and I'm not

1880
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 1: saying that's the right decision for everybody, but like for

1881
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 1: our family, we thought about it like because I was

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01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: as we were gonna do that, I'm like, what do

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Speaker 1: you think we do in And I said, I know,

1884
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Speaker 1: I want to play and she's like, yeah, you better

1885
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Speaker 1: go play. It's like your job, like go stay in hotel.

1886
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: We can face time to kids. You can go play football.

1887
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Speaker 1: And because if you think about it, there's a lot

1888
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 1: of professions in this world where guys leave home for

1889
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Speaker 1: extended periods of time. I mean the top of the

1890
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Speaker 1: list of military, I mean guys out on the oil rig,

1891
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Speaker 1: I mean traveling salesman, I mean on the list. And

1892
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 1: so it's not like it's abnormal like to go like

1893
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 1: like if I had to make a decision, and it's

1894
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,839
Speaker 1: really interesting. And this is where it gets so selfish

1895
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 1: for me to one like, a long career in the

1896
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 1: NFL is ten years, So if you don't play one year,

1897
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 1: you're taking away ten percent of your career. That's a lot,

1898
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 1: and you don't realize that when you're in the middle

1899
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Speaker 1: of it. The second thing is if I had to

1900
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Speaker 1: sit there and look at my earning potential as a

1901
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Speaker 1: professional athlete, and I had I'll say if I was,

1902
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Speaker 1: if I was at the level of player I was

1903
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Speaker 1: when I played the best left tackle. So I've been

1904
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 1: making twenty million dollars this year, and I was gonna

1905
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: look around and say, Okay, I either can opt out

1906
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Speaker 1: because maybe my family, my mom or my wife, daughter, kids,

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01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 1: son has an underlying health issue. I can opt out

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01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 1: and stay home, which, by the way, if you're gonna

1909
01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 1: do that, that means you can't leave the house at all.

1910
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: Because you're saying I'm gonna protect them, that means don't

1911
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Speaker 1: leave because of what you're you'd expose yourself with everyday life.

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01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,799
Speaker 1: Would I do that? Which is I respect that option?

1913
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Speaker 1: Or would I say, Hey, I'm gonna go live in

1914
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Speaker 1: a hotel for six months and I will make sure

1915
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Speaker 1: my family is not exposed at all, and I'm gonna

1916
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 1: go play football. I would choose that I would go

1917
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 1: stay in a hotel. I would separate myself from my

1918
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Speaker 1: family or anyone that that was at risk to go

1919
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Speaker 1: play the game. Because you have such a small window

1920
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Speaker 1: in this league. Plus, like you said, it's your job.

1921
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Speaker 1: Yeah you're doing Yeah, really, that was that was the

1922
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Speaker 1: best comment. My wife just looked at me. She's like,

1923
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Speaker 1: are you crazy, it's your job. She just wants to

1924
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 1: get ready for She's gonna probably say, pretend you're playing now,

1925
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Speaker 1: go to the hotel for six months, get out of

1926
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Speaker 1: here alone. Make no mistake. I used to try me.

1927
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Speaker 1: I travel a lot. Usually this pandemic. I've been home.

1928
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 1: She's like, isn't it time for you, like start traveling

1929
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Speaker 1: again and like go to work and new stuff and like,

1930
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Speaker 1: and she's like NFL seasons and I'm like, I might

1931
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Speaker 1: not trying for the NFL because the way they're going

1932
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Speaker 1: to the beginning. She's like, what so, yeah, I mean

1933
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Speaker 1: you're right, I'd be in the middle of like a

1934
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Speaker 1: month on the road right now. Your wife's disappointed. Let's

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1987
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Speaker 1: Glad you're along with us for the first Monday program

1988
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 1: of the season. Boy, and and Tony looks like he's

1989
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 1: really into it. I'll what do you mean? I'm into it? Baby,

1990
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Speaker 1: you're in I'm getting tight, I'm like into it. Well,

1991
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Speaker 1: we're glad, glad you're into it? Are you? What? Are

1992
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 1: you gonna fest off and tell us what that room

1993
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Speaker 1: Isn't you get thrown in like a prison or something?

1994
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Speaker 1: Did you what did you do? It's a it's an

1995
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: undisclosed sight that I can't comment on. Where I am.

1996
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 1: You're up to something listen, But but he has a

1997
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 1: wait staff apparently, so that he's got that going well,

1998
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, are you I could have fake or I

1999
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 1: could have fake books behind me, Like JP doesn't act

2000
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: like they're real. They're real books. Okay, they're book books.

2001
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 1: He never read. You have not read one of those books, Bryant.

2002
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 1: You see what I got here? Oh yeah, yeah, you

2003
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: just you know, only three people I have ever read

2004
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 1: read that book. Look at look at that guy in

2005
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:03,799
Speaker 1: the back, but full head of hair. It's fantastic. Frisco

2006
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: and johnnyo Selly. You know what's even better is this one?

2007
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 1: Mark Brunel Books, South South Paul. How about where did

2008
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 1: you write that? Oh? Yeah, it was written for it

2009
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 1: was a kid's book. And then here somewhere you blame

2010
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: him for running it a sack into your You ran

2011
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 1: a sack into you. I never gave the only sacks

2012
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 1: ever gave up for his fault? Did he listens? You

2013
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: better be nice text? Did you sell any of those

2014
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 1: books either? One? Yeah? Yeah. The problem with the first book,

2015
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 1: Jackson Richard was by the time it got out the

2016
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:53,600
Speaker 1: other season. Yeah, too late. You missed the mark on

2017
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 1: it a little bit. Hey, you need you needed e books?

2018
01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:00,040
Speaker 1: You get out of the book right away? Yeah, it

2019
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: didn't Tony JP hasn't read anything behind them show books

2020
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Here's the other thing, like what are

2021
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 1: these footballs? Like you've never played in that organized sport

2022
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:12,640
Speaker 1: in your life and you have like these football that

2023
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:16,680
Speaker 1: this is Alabama. There's a World Football League ball to

2024
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 1: my left, my left, you're right, these are London balls.

2025
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 1: So this is the Bill's game. This is another one.

2026
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 1: What's the one in the case the old World Football League?

2027
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 1: An official? That was my grandparents were seasoned taking olders

2028
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 1: for the Birmingham teams, the Vulcans and the Americans. They

2029
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: changed the franchises. Yes, so there you go that you

2030
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 1: did the World Football legame seventy seventy mid seventies probably right, Yeah,

2031
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: something like that. All right, we have plenty of weeks

2032
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 1: to go through my stuff on the behind me here

2033
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 1: on the on the set. So here's the thing. Okay,

2034
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 1: before we go around the league, I expect every week,

2035
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 1: at some point we're in a segment, you have to

2036
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 1: pull one of the books out behind you and give

2037
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 1: us a book report that you've actually read it. I

2038
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 1: have an agreement on that. I can do that. I

2039
01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 1: can do that, I can do that all right, I

2040
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 1: can do. We'll work on that. Let's go around the league.

2041
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 1: Let's start in the FC south of the Houston Texans.

2042
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: Kenny Still is activated from the non football illness list

2043
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 1: and undisclosed illness. Still and cold the linebacker taking off

2044
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Speaker 1: the p U P. He had a torn a c

2045
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:28,560
Speaker 1: L during the game against the Colts last year and

2046
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: he are they the favorite? They've won the division for

2047
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 1: out of the last five years. I don't think so.

2048
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 1: How How did they rush the pastor? And they have

2049
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 1: some issues in the secondary, the offensive line. You hope

2050
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 1: those young guys get better and they lost Hopkins. Absolutely not.

2051
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 1: Let's do power Raking. Well, let's get through the rest

2052
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 1: of the teams before we did. In Power the Indianapolis Colts,

2053
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and c Y Hilton connecting early in camp,

2054
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 1: especially today, they caught three of the first four passes

2055
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: from Rivers. Hilton back from a minor hamstring issue, and

2056
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 1: Rivers was charted unofficially nine of thirteen and eleven on

2057
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 1: eleven sessions and Pete, I know how much you love

2058
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 1: that's stupid. Eleven on eleven stats. Yeah, I hate leven

2059
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 1: on eleven stats. Guys work on stuff and camp. You

2060
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 1: can't evaluate that stuff. Numbers are dumb. Didn't somebody used

2061
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 1: to chart the plays there all the time? He yeah, yeah,

2062
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 1: that's dumb. I mean they don't mean anything. Go ask

2063
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback what is charting? What you're charting? And they go,

2064
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I work on so much

2065
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: stuff in camp dumb. But Philip Rivers will have a

2066
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 1: good year for the Colts. Yeah, he's didna get protected

2067
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 1: for the first time about correct a decade. This is

2068
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 1: a tough guy. Yeah, blind. I've heard through the rumor

2069
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 1: mill that the kid Jonathan what's the kid from Wisconsin

2070
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 1: they drafted running back Convin Taylor looks really good, good

2071
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 1: on offense, so we got that. The Tennessee Titans Ryan

2072
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 1: Tannehill was absent from Monday's practice, so I don't know.

2073
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 1: He wasn't in practice, he was at He was absent

2074
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 1: from their two playoff victories to Wow. The other two

2075
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks got increased reps today. Corey Davis so wide receive

2076
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 1: or his first appearance today after starting camp on the pup.

2077
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 1: Are what's the Titans situation here? They are they sustainable?

2078
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 1: We've touched on that earlier on seventeen Jaguars. Do you

2079
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win five games? They'll probably, they'll probably

2080
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 1: win seven. I actually think I get to define sustainable.

2081
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 1: And obviously when we say we're not really talking real money.

2082
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 1: We don't believe in gambling. On the show, it was

2083
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 1: a figure of speech to be entertainment purposes only. I

2084
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:52,360
Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble. Uh, is like, like,

2085
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 1: tell me what sustainable was. They're gonna be the same

2086
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 1: thing they've been the last like four years. They're gonna

2087
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 1: be eight and eight, nine and seven fighting for the

2088
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 1: wild card and if they get during the playoffs, they

2089
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Speaker 1: can make your run because they're a physical, tough team.

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Speaker 1: Coach by my career, that's what they're gonna be. Huh

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01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 1: when they go six and tenn and not make the

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Speaker 1: playoffs again, you want to like have dinner on the

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01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 1: winning more than six years. You said they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I'll say they won't. No, I did

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01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: not say that. I said they're gonna be eight and eight,

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Speaker 1: nineties seven, fighting for a while for a spot like

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Speaker 1: they do every year. Well, here's let's just say dinner.

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Speaker 1: I'll take them not being in the playoffs. You take

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01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 1: them being in Pete different, therefore not sustainable. You won't

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Speaker 1: take that, know, you said six wins? I said, anytime

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Speaker 1: do you want to say dinner on sixth win? It's

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Speaker 1: not sustainable. Okay, Well, do well get to define sustainable.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to the playoffs this year? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: mean they're fitting. They're a coin flip. I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna for dinner. You got them in the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: I got them out. Baby, we please translate to him

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Speaker 1: that he said, I don't know. I got lost in

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Speaker 1: my ears. I don't know the whole thing. Let's touch

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Speaker 1: quickly on the Washington football team and quarterback Alex Smith

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01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 1: cleared to practice. Ron Rivera said he's gonna be in

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Speaker 1: the mix to be the starter this year, going up

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Speaker 1: against Wayne and Haskins. What a story this? Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: I have a question whatever. And I was watching. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry because Pete will probably notice, but I was watching

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Speaker 1: like him getting like congratulated his family, like spring champaign

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01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 1: on him or wherever. Yeah, it looked like it looks

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Speaker 1: like he has a drop dragging and he's dragging it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but no, but it looks like his drop foot. Because

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Speaker 1: the image it did not that was not a good

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Speaker 1: look and being cleared for football and being cleared for

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01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 1: football are two different things. So I can't see him

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Speaker 1: going on a field and running around and taking shots

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01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 1: and everything else right now. Story your root for him?

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Speaker 1: Good dude. Now, maybe, like Jalen Smith played a year

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Speaker 1: with drop foot, the nerve wasn't all the way back

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01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 1: the kid from but he had a brace on there

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Speaker 1: that you can play with it, and so maybe that's

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Speaker 1: the case. Yeah, I don't know, but that's something I

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Speaker 1: would want to know. But it's regardless. The guy almost

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Speaker 1: lost his leg literally they were they were having discussions

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01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 1: in the o R. Do we cut his leg off

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Speaker 1: or not? And now he's back on the football field

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Speaker 1: of an NFL team. I take my hat off to him,

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Speaker 1: as if you've ever you want to read a story,

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Speaker 1: read the story about what they went through. That was amazing.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Tony Pete, Hey, we're off and run him.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you nextually. See from Pete Prisco, Tony Vassili,

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Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadrick. Thank you for listening and watching.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.