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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt let's get started here with the fantasy

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Speaker 2: football focus to take off our number two and well

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Speaker 2: as we do on Thursdays, take a look around the

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Speaker 2: LEAKSI who is trending which way here now in terms

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Speaker 2: of being enter out this week.

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Speaker 3: It's getting to the point where there's teams Arizona is

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Speaker 3: a perfect example of shut them down. Yeah, and we

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Speaker 3: don't have time to play for And one of the

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Speaker 3: things I like least about fantasy sometimes at the end

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Speaker 3: you have to figure out what's this team's motivation and

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Speaker 3: are they gonna rest guys and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: When it matters if they've finished, you know, exact playoffs, right,

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Speaker 2: you know that that happens. Marvin with the hamstring, was

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Speaker 2: limited in Thursday's practice. He's not been a factor at all.

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Speaker 2: Now you would think they'd want to, but he's he's

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Speaker 2: not a factor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy with a groin injury. He returned to practice

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Speaker 2: on Thursday for the Broncos. We mentioned, We mentioned Dorian

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Speaker 2: Thompson Robinson with a concussion. He did not practice on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: He's not playing, not playing, So it is going to

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Speaker 2: be Black, it's going to be Flacco. What do you

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Speaker 2: think that does for Sam Mauri, Cooper or David and

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Speaker 2: Joku the same?

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Speaker 3: I assume he's going to be get it out quick,

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Speaker 3: read it out. Might hurt Cooper more than Yeah, i'd

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Speaker 3: say a lot of targets from Nadjoku. Yeah, I would think.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I keep thinking about Jesus not trustworthy. No,

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Speaker 3: I think he'll like complete more out routes to Cooper

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Speaker 3: than maybe the other two would if he's not. But

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Speaker 3: he's not going to go down the field. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to have him hold the

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Speaker 3: ball at all. I think it's going to be all

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Speaker 3: read it out, quick, get it out of your hands

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Speaker 3: quick game. Actually that could be better for more. Maybe

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Speaker 3: they've been wanting to get him more involved. They like him.

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Speaker 3: It just hasn't clicked or quickness and gave him the

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Speaker 3: ball quickly and maybe he can get some run after

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Speaker 3: the catch. Or Joe might just be totally shot and

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Speaker 3: can't hit the broadside of a barn anymore. It's still elite.

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Speaker 3: He saw him that one practice. He's got a lot

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Speaker 3: left in the tank, is what they said. Sure he does.

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Speaker 2: Brice Hall with a hamstring limited in Thursday's practice.

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Speaker 3: He's their whole offense basically with Wilson, it's the Rogers stuff.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't change my mind of what that team's trying to do,

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Speaker 3: but I do think they're still trying to win. Keep

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Speaker 3: an eye on him. I mean, start him if he's there.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we were talking about our league. I

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Speaker 3: have him, and I was gonna have Sharbona on the bench,

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Speaker 3: So I stuck Sharbonay in that spot and moved Hall

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Speaker 3: to the the flex and just kind of letting them

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Speaker 3: hang there and see what happens. Their offense averaged two

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Speaker 3: against the Dolphins last week. He's the only thing they

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Speaker 3: do good is they get the ball in haul in

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Speaker 3: Wilson's hands pretty regularly. Like I know, this is what

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Speaker 3: we're all. I had seven catches last week. They didn't

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Speaker 3: go for it, and they didn't go anything. I don't

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Speaker 3: go anywhere, but he has a chance to break one

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Speaker 3: at least he gets the ball, but man, the offense

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Speaker 3: is totally broken. It's kind of a side note, but

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Speaker 3: like Garrett Wilson still puts up points in that offense.

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Speaker 3: They he's never gonna score. He's never gonna score. But

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like if he is Rogers next year, he

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Speaker 2: You know, that's why I drafted a mass this year. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I know, right, I took him in here early in

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Speaker 2: the second round and then you know the four plays

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Speaker 2: into the season that was shot.

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Speaker 3: Oh of course. But he's still it is startable barely. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's never gonna score. Oh, he's never gonna score. Right,

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Speaker 3: they don't score. I like, like seven for fifty nine lines.

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Speaker 3: That's it. I mean, at least they get targets, but

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Speaker 3: they don't score it. Right. That offense is the worst

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Speaker 3: better than both Giants? Is better than both Yeah? Wow wow.

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Speaker 3: Trey lom Burk's with a concussion, upgraded to a full

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Speaker 3: that game against the Colts. Don't consider him for fantasy,

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Speaker 3: but just in general former first round pick. I didn't

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Speaker 3: Or do we need another receiver? I mean, you need

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Speaker 3: another receiver even if he's fine. Oh, they definitely. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Devin a Chan looking good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, limited again in Thursday's practice. That's two days in

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Speaker 2: a row that he's been limited. All the rumbling are

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Speaker 2: positive that he's gonna play. That's fine, but are they

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Speaker 2: just be like, okay, We're just gonna get him a

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Speaker 2: I'm so, what level do you put him at? Like

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Speaker 2: I look at him as a high upside flex, But

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Speaker 2: would you start Tyler Lockett or somebody that's an okay

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Speaker 2: level of question, you know, because he could end up

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Speaker 2: with slam dung two or three touches in this game,

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Speaker 2: could just something he just wanted to work him back

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Speaker 3: They could be winning by a ton too. That's the

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Speaker 3: other why do I want to put him in harm's way?

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Speaker 3: And actually, you know, Jeff Wilson's out there carrying him

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Speaker 3: all the entire second half, but most it's also fighting something.

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Speaker 3: That's why I said, Jeff Wilson, I know, I know. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know I've been breaking ties into Chan's favor.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's more, he's maybe the most explosive player

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Speaker 3: But we both own him in different leagues. And I

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Speaker 3: mean he hurt us a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I hope that's not his career, being as small as

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Speaker 2: T Higgins with the hamstring, said he hopes to play

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Speaker 2: in Week thirteen against the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Hope fine, but I don't know if he's even startable

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Speaker 2: We just saw Jamar Chase get catch four passes in

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Speaker 2: that game against a year and now he had eighty

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know the Chase is to Garrett

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Speaker 3: that way in a hurry. Higgins isn't as strong a case.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that Higgins startable. I think Chase is

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Speaker 3: like a wide receiver three at best. Yeaheah. I mean

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Speaker 3: they're not gonna score many touchdowns for the rest of

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Speaker 3: the year either. No, they are not. Neither of the

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Speaker 3: Browns by the way, No, No.

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Speaker 2: Chris Godwin added to the injury report for the Tampa

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Speaker 3: He was listed as limited. He's been frustrating all year.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of been his Yeah, yeah, he's a borderline starter.

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Speaker 3: Now to begin with, Rashid Shaheed with the thigh injury

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Speaker 3: did not practice on Thursday. That one doesn't sound good,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't look good at all.

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Speaker 2: But Chris Olave with the concussion practiced on Thursday. That's

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Speaker 2: a good sign, but notet not other words, yet he

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Speaker 3: No, that one sounds like it's trending a much better

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Speaker 3: chance than Shaheed playing. Yeah, you throw him right back

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Speaker 3: he plays. He was on fire when he went out.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't love their offense.

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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen with a quad did not practice on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: That's two days in a row for Keenan Allen. They're

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Speaker 2: in New England, right in New England. Could they lose

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a fire boys, man, I think

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Speaker 3: Allen might be that important. I mean he's the whole

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Speaker 3: passing game. But Palmer might be back.

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Speaker 2: Palmer might be back, and you would still have a

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Speaker 2: Kalar that you could kind of lean on a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't looked quite the same either though they don't

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Speaker 3: give him the ball. I think he's still nursing stuff

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Speaker 3: and or getting old. Yeah, I mean Allen's a monster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just he's he's been the Fantasy wide receiver MVP

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Speaker 2: this year outside of Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 3: Probably for where you drafted him to, I'm the best

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Speaker 2: You probably got him in the third, fourth, fifth round,

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Speaker 2: and that's where he goes every year, and every year

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Speaker 3: Mike Evans and him, I always think of the same.

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Speaker 3: They're about the same age. They probably possible Hall of famers,

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Speaker 3: probable hall of fame, although they could beat me in

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Speaker 3: a race. And they don't ever get old, and they

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Speaker 3: just produce you after year and just draft them.

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Speaker 2: You know, we mentioned the Deontay Johnson illness. I don't

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Speaker 3: Ah. But Jaden Reid with that chest injury did not

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Speaker 3: practice again on that that's big. He's very impressive. He's

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Speaker 3: the guy in the in the offense that has wiggle

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Speaker 3: and juice and explosiveness. You know, Watson can really run,

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Speaker 3: but he's a straight line guy. And they're feature and

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Speaker 3: read a lot. Yeah, and not just on catching the pass.

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Speaker 3: He gets a couple of the rounds or they get

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Speaker 3: the ball in his hands. And design touches, yeah, design touches,

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Speaker 3: they love them.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Jones did not practice on Thursday. He's still dealing

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Speaker 2: with that knee injury. It's kind of been a wasted

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Speaker 2: year for Aaron Has. He came in to the league

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Speaker 2: older than people think too. I mean, I bet he's

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Speaker 2: twenty eight ish. It might be he might be that

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Speaker 2: Leonard Fournette sitting on someone's practice squad sooner than later

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Speaker 2: the guy or you know, Ezekiel Elliott is a backup type.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's on the horizon for them and some

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Speaker 2: Thursday for the Packers, so I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not a big fan, but I guess you fire him

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Speaker 3: up without Joff. If he's the only only horse in town,

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Speaker 3: you ride him. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Their offense is doing good stuff, Jonathan Mingo, although they're

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Speaker 2: playing Kansas City. Kansas City run defense is no good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Mingo with that achilles injury limited in Thursday's.

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Speaker 3: Practice, they keep talking about how they want to get

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Speaker 3: him the ball more, find out more about him. That's fine,

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Speaker 3: but what does that mean? Four receptions? Yeah, six targets.

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Speaker 3: I hope nobody walks across Johnny Mingo's Hayden Hurst got

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Speaker 3: the concussion did not practice Thursday for the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz with the hamstring. Did not practice on Thursday,

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Speaker 3: Hopefully change quarterbacks because I want to play against He's bad.

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Speaker 3: They really are. With their As much as they've invested

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Speaker 2: Jeric McKinnon returned to practice on Thursday as in a

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Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott was limited in Thursday's practice for the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Mario Douglas with that concussion, did not practice

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Speaker 3: I like him big picture, Like he's the only receiver

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Speaker 3: next year, and you know, maybe pair him with somebody

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Pay attention to the Patriots and actives, folks, because

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Speaker 3: I just think the state of these teams on a

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Speaker 2: He plays a lot no matter what. Yeah, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: put Ferguson in the captain's chair. I was thinking being

430
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Speaker 3: like Sharp or Smith n Jigba, and just so then

431
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Speaker 3: I can get Stack everything else. Make sure I get that,

432
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Speaker 3: make sure I get Lamb.

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Speaker 2: But I'm that Ferguson is cheap. I just guessing. Yeah,

434
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he is cheaper than those guys. I mean

435
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Speaker 2: he'll be he may be cheaper. Yeah, he won't be

436
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Speaker 2: super cheap, but he'll be reasonably cheap.

437
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Speaker 3: I'm not even expecting huge games from JSN or scharbon A,

438
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Speaker 3: but I'm expecting volume, especially for the running back. I'm

439
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Speaker 3: gonna take a quick look here. Yeah, it'll be interesting.

440
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Speaker 3: Let's see here. We want wonder what their prices are.

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Speaker 3: Showdown Classic mode. Let's see.

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Speaker 2: I've bet DA's very expensive. Oh, Dak will be even

443
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: lighting it up. Yeah, well ceede. Lamb's number one for

444
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 2: the captain's chair at seventeen to one, Prescott sixteen to five,

445
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: Pollard is fourteen seven, Metcalf fourteen four Gino is thirteen

446
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: to eight.

447
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Speaker 3: Uh, Brandon Cooks.

448
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: His twelve thousand, Tyler Lockett his ten eight, Charbona is

449
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: ten two, Jake Ferguson nine three.

450
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, So you could go Jake Fergusler and if you know,

452
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: he gets you five for sixty in a touchdown, which

453
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Speaker 2: is certainly within.

454
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Speaker 3: Him, put Dak and Lamb and your Yeah, make sure

455
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 3: it allows you to get to get some of those

456
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Speaker 3: other guys.

457
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: You can get Lamb and Dak and Metcalf and Metcalf

458
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: and Gino if you want, you know.

459
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Speaker 3: So, I don't know if i'd want Gino or not,

460
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Speaker 3: but maybe.

461
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Speaker 2: I mean the prices on those guys. Just in jack

462
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Speaker 2: Cowboys defense wouldn't be a terrible pick up either. No, no,

463
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Speaker 2: just uh looking at the Cowboys defense is fifty six hundreds,

464
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigbas fifty two hundred.

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Speaker 3: He would be in my lineup somewhere. Yeah. Again, I

466
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Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna go for eight for one to twenty,

467
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Speaker 3: but I think you'll have a better game than he has.

468
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Speaker 3: Dawdle's forty two hundred. He'd be in my lineup somewhere too. Yeah. Interesting.

469
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Speaker 3: Now there's some options. Dawdle in the captain's chair. That's

470
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Speaker 3: not horrible, Dadele.

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Speaker 2: In the captain's chair. Yeah, sixty three hundred. Huh, that's

472
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Speaker 2: how bad he's going to get touches.

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Speaker 3: He gonna get touches. They like him, Yeah, no, they

474
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Speaker 3: like him a lot. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: oh Man Mike Waller us from Martavis Bryant. Longest reception

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Speaker 2: in a Steeler game against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Can't be many. How many times do either one of

496
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Speaker 3: them play against them? Maybe not many, They've only played them.

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Speaker 3: I looked this up last night. I think this is

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Speaker 3: the sixth time that they've played them since nineteen sixty nine. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I did the series history. I mean, and they used

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Speaker 3: to be They weren't at one point in the same division.

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Speaker 3: When was that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, from nineteen fifty to nineteen sixty nine the

503
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Speaker 2: Steelers and Cardinals were in the same division. They were

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Speaker 2: in the Capitol Division. There's a lot of games pre

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, so that makes sense. I

506
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Speaker 2: didn't know as there were division rivals. I'm just avoiding

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Speaker 2: the question, is all I'm doing. I'll go with Bryant.

508
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: I always think of Wallace is the home run hitter,

509
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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with Bryant. You know the answer

510
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Speaker 2: off top I do? I mean, you would just off

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Speaker 2: the top of your head. Yeah, okay, I definitely do

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Speaker 2: not know the answer.

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Speaker 3: Ru Man Okay, all right, you're making faces out, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look here at the Pro Football Focus

515
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: new offensive line rankings going to thirteen.

516
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Speaker 3: They just came out. See where the Steelers rank heading

517
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Speaker 3: into this week, and see where Arizona ranks. I bet

518
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: the Steelers are head Arizona. They should be. Yeah, well open.

519
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: So looking at down one spot is Carolina. That's so

520
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: disappointing too, because like they've got a couple, they got

521
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Speaker 3: two tackles. I say, Icky's was very promising as a

522
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Speaker 3: Rookie's been horrible this year. They're paying Bosman the center.

523
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Speaker 3: I mean the guards are semi respectable. I mean that

524
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Speaker 3: line should not be last. Yeah, I don't know if

525
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Speaker 3: you know this. Did they fire their ow line coach?

526
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Speaker 3: I know they fired a bunch of dudes. I think

527
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Speaker 3: they did. Yeah, I mean maybe he's not doing a

528
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Speaker 3: good job. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: At thirty one up, I can't put Carolina's line behind

530
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Speaker 2: the Jets line though, who they don't block anybody Carter

531
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Speaker 2: Warren Lake and Tomlins and Joe Tipmans, Xavier and Newman

532
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: Max Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're no vera Tucker no back then

534
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: and their line was the biggest question coming into the season,

535
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Speaker 3: and then they lost two of their best guys, if

536
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 3: not more. Yeah, that's bad. That's bad. It's bad. At

537
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Speaker 3: thirty are the Titans. They've been bad since it's before

538
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: the season started. They're still starting Jalen dunking it right tackle?

539
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: They my god? Really? At twenty nine the Seattle Seahawks.

540
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: Who are their starters now? I mean they're playing tonight.

541
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Speaker 2: Charles Cross say, he's fine and a Graham Lucas are

542
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: the tackles. Yeah, yeah, still young though, I know, and

543
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: they had some injuries here, That's what I was asking.

544
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: I thought they were back. The guards are Damian Lewis

545
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: and Phil Haynes. The center's Evan Brown, Okay, I mean,

546
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: I know they like Lewis. It's not a great line,

547
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: but maybe it's underperformed more than I know. At twenty eight,

548
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: up a spot are these Arizona Cardinals.

549
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 3: What do they say about him? They always say like

550
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Speaker 3: best player.

551
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: Left guard Tristan Cologne earned an eighty seven pass blocking

552
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Speaker 2: grade against the Rams, which is the second highest grade

553
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Speaker 2: among all guards in Week twelve. Paris Johnson's sixty seven

554
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Speaker 2: point two grade over the past three weeks ranked second

555
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Speaker 2: among rookie offensive tackles.

556
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Speaker 3: Johnson's promising. It's not a great grade, but whatever.

557
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: And their best player is Will Hernandez, who played a

558
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: solid game against the Rams and earned a seventy four

559
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: point three Pro Football Focus grade, his highest mark since

560
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Speaker 2: Week one. He's the right guard, right, he is the

561
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Speaker 2: right guard. Yes, he's a real wide bodied maler old

562
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Speaker 2: school heavy footed type that can kind of get above

563
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Speaker 2: his skis.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's particularly That line is going to

565
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Speaker 3: get destroyed, destroyed. Yeah, yeah. At twenty seven the Giants,

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking, it's a little odd we haven't

567
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Speaker 3: mentioned the Giants. I don't think they started blocking people

568
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden after having a miserable season. Is

569
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Speaker 3: Michael Schmid's back are they calling? Ye? John Michael Spence

570
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: is down the center?

571
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that was one of the many holes.

572
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: Andrew Thomas is back as well.

573
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: Humongous. You mean he's probably the best lineman we've mentioned yet.

574
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: At twenty six, down three spots the Cincinnati Bengals.

575
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: That's proper. This was mosally their favorite. This is and

576
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: this is who they chose to start this year. This

577
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: isn't blaming Joe Burrow or this is the line that

578
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: they built and spent a lot of money on and

579
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Speaker 3: didn't do.

580
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Speaker 2: A real Jo Kappa and Ted Carris and Orlando Brown,

581
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Speaker 2: those guys are making money.

582
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do they say about their line?

583
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: The Bengals offensive line produced the six worst pass blocking

584
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: efficiency rating in the NFL in Week twelve, giving up

585
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: ten or twelve pressures two sacks on just thirty two dropbacks.

586
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Speaker 3: Against the Steelers. Yeah.

587
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown Junior allowed four pressures on thirty three dropbacks

588
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: and the twenty seven point four pass blocking grade the

589
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: lowest mark of his career.

590
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Speaker 3: See, I agree with that. Like rewatching, Heigh, Smiths's dominated

591
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: dominated him. I know he didn't have a ton of

592
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: sacks and all that. And people have even asked us,

593
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: you know, is high Smith slipping? Go watch him beat

594
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: up on Orlando Brown? Yeah? Orlando Brown, he's he's bad. Yeah.

595
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: We used to call him like the most overrated. He

596
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: might just not be good. He is still rated, though.

597
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: I still think he's good, and he's making a lot

598
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Speaker 3: of them.

599
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: Making a lot of change for being that bad. Uh

600
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Speaker 2: at twenty five the.

601
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Speaker 3: Chargers, Okay, I mean they have good players, but they

602
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: has not played well this year. That's the story of

603
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: their whole team. It's their whole team. Yeah. At twenty

604
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: four of the Washington Commanders, they probably should be lower like, Yeah, the.

605
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: Entire NFC East offensive line play outside like it.

606
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 3: Does to the bottom, to the top and not concidentally, folks,

607
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: the one the tops win a lot of games to

608
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: the bottom zone. At twenty three, up worse spots the Rams. Okay,

609
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: I know they're super high on Kevin Dotson. I think

610
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: he's been a success story for him. Good for him,

611
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: good for him. Yeah. At twenty two, up four spots

612
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: the Patriots.

613
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: Really who they're starting five at the moment, Trent Brown,

614
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: Old Strange, David Andrews, City South, Michael wan to one. You,

615
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: I mean that's who they are. That's they're good, that's

616
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: their dudes, that's their five guys.

617
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: I mean, their offense is horrendous and I don't think

618
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: it's just a quarterback. But that's not a bad five.

619
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Speaker 3: So yeah, you still have a quarterback. At twenty one,

620
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine Ers, Trent Williams and the Pips. Yeah.

621
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Speaker 2: At twenty are the New Orleans Saints.

622
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Speaker 3: Hasn't been nothing on their offense has quite been quite right. Yeah,

623
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Speaker 3: get that coaching staff, get let go if they don't

624
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: win the division. Yeah, it's a little underwhelming.

625
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah at nineteen up a spot Chicago, it's getting better.

626
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought so too. I mean, the young tackles

627
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: are both playing pretty well. I don't know that, Oh,

628
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: line's a need in the offseason. It's a one at

629
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: eighteen down two spots down two spots the Steelers. What

630
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: did they do wrong? What did they do last week

631
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: that moved them down? I mean, we know these ranks.

632
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: Sometimes somebody moves up and it's not your fault you

633
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: move down. But I mean, I think the line's trending positively.

634
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: Here's what they say. The Steelers offensive line is playing

635
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: better as the season wears on. The unit gave up

636
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: seven pressures on thirty seven drop backs against the Bengals

637
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: last week and finished Week twelve with the seven highest,

638
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: seventh highest pass blaking past blocking efficiency rating in the NFL.

639
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: Left guard Isaac Samalu has not allowed to sack since

640
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: Week six of the twenty twenty two seasons. Wow, I no,

641
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: I disagree with that. But there was a thing that

642
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: they tweeted out earlier this year that there was a

643
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: stunt okay where the guy stunted right past him to

644
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Speaker 2: the quarter.

645
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Speaker 3: But it wasn't his fault, apparently not by their standards. Yeah,

646
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: we probably should have picked a guy out. Yeah, let's say,

647
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: if you ask Pat Meyer, he might have been Well,

648
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: that's on Isaac.

649
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, best player James Daniels. Daniel Daniels allowed ten pressures

650
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: over the first three games this season. He has given

651
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: up just four pressures in his six games since returning

652
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: from injury.

653
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: It's my problem with then. I'm not saying they're wrong.

654
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: What's the pressure? I know that's so generic. It took

655
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: me a long time to come around, even like quoting

656
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: pressure rate, but it's become pretty standards. So I'm on it. Yeah,

657
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: but dave a good set of guards. I mean, there's

658
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 3: no doubt what number will they gave eighteen eighty two spots? Uh,

659
00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: seventeen up one? Green Bay playing better? Yeah, they tackle issues.

660
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: But sixteen up three Jacksonville mm hmm. I think I

661
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: think I think the Steelers line over Jacksonville. Yeah, I

662
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: think I think of Green Bay too, of it.

663
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen down one, Tampa Bay.

664
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: M I don't look at that run the ball at all. Yeah,

665
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 3: they don't run in football. They don't move any bodies.

666
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: Can you tell me that a team that has run

667
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: the football for at least one hundred and fifty two

668
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: yards in each of the last four weeks is everaging

669
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy rushing yards the last four weeks

670
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: is moving down?

671
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get that doesn't make any makes no

672
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 3: sense to me either. I mean, Wurfs is a great player,

673
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 3: He's better than a Steeler, But I mean I don't

674
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: think the rest of their line is particularly good. Uh.

675
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: At fourteen down one the Cleveland Browns. Okay, but they're

676
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: built to be a top three or four what they're

677
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: paid to be. They're paid to be investment wise.

678
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: Thirteen up two the Raiders. I don't see it that way,

679
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: but I haven't studied them lately.

680
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean we studied them earlier this year.

681
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't super suppressed. Yeah, Miller's a good player. At

682
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: twelve down two the Texans.

683
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tunsuls might be the best offensive lineman on the

684
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 3: planet right now. I mean he's right there with Trent

685
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: Williams really taking it up a lot.

686
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're problem now is they're gonna they're gonna be

687
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: starting off two scrugs that left guard. That what they're

688
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: gonna do. Yeah, and he's a center. He's a center

689
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: that usually doesn't necessarily work out.

690
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: Real who's their right tackle again, I should know George

691
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: Fant Yeah he's been Okay, he's a jag. He's a jag.

692
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, eleven up one spot are the Chiefs. I'm

693
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: some other one that should be higher for what they're

694
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: investing in all that. Donovan Smith and Juwan Taylor stink.

695
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: Smith is those guys every step of the way.

696
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: Those guys combined have more than twenty penalties this year. Yeah,

697
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: I know Taylor's are all full star. How does that

698
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: not get factored into this at all? Smith has been

699
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: Smith is not a starting tackle, and he looks the part.

700
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: He's a good tester. So a lot of people, Matt Miller,

701
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: a lot of people that I like, have put out

702
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: Walck drafts this week. They all have them taking a

703
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: tackle and it's a great to have to Yeah, it's

704
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: a great tackle draft and that's that has to be

705
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 3: the move for them. Yeah.

706
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: Uh at ten, Oh, I don't agree with this at all. Miami,

707
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: No they're lying. Stinks.

708
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: Armstead's never in the game. Yeah he's out. Now he's

709
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: out again. Yeah, he's always out. Yeah, they're lying. Stinks. No,

710
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: I would not trade the Steelers with others, like.

711
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I might make it. I might take

712
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: car I'll take Connor Williams at center. Yeah, he's fine.

713
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 2: Outside of that, I'm not taking any of their guys.

714
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: Are the Steeler guys. No, I think they're searching. Their

715
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: first round pick could be in alignment. At nine down

716
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: one is Buffalo. It's okay, it's okay. Yeah, I think

717
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: Torrans has helped. At eight up three is Denver, big mauling,

718
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: run the ball line. I mean that's they have a

719
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: lot invested to the mcglinchy was expensive and I like Byner.

720
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: It's a lot name. Garrett Bowls a bunch of money

721
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: in the guard they signed to making big money. It's

722
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: seven down two spots the Vikings. Their tackles are great. Yeah,

723
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: and then inside okay, at six down two spots are

724
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: the Colts. In Nelson's back Reinert that's my name, yeah, Ryman. Yeah,

725
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: it was a disaster last year. He seems to be

726
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: shaping back in the you know, turned being okay, So

727
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: that's been an underreported success story. At five up two

728
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 3: spots is Dallas, the Smiths and Martin. Yeah.

729
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: At four up two spots is Atlanta. Yeah, I mean,

730
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: Lindstrom's one of the best guards in the league. Matthews

731
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: is always a rock. I mean he's not Hall of

732
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: Fame or anything, but he's had a really good career.

733
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. At three holding steady is Baltimore. Yeah, I mean

734
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: it's seems a little high. Yeah. What do they say

735
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: about the Ravens. I'm just curious.

736
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 2: The Ravens offensive line at a rough night in pass

737
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 2: protection against the Chargers to The unit allowed thirteen pressures,

738
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 2: including two sacks on thirty six dropbacks, and finished twenty

739
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: fifth and pass blocking efficiency rating, and we showed watching it.

740
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: Right guard Kevin Zeitler's eighty eight point one pass blocking

741
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: grade tied for the best mark him on all offensive

742
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: linemen in Week one, said their best player is Tyler Linderbaum.

743
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: He endured a rough stretch over but he's endured a

744
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: rough stretch over the last three weeks. His fifty three

745
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: point five pass blocking grade over that period ranks twenty

746
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: six out of thirty seven qualifying centers. That's your best guy.

747
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: There's nothing here that says that they were good. I

748
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: mean the right side of the line are two veterans

749
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: that have been around the block for a million years

750
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: that are solid, that aren't great.

751
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: And that's what Patrick McCarry starting at left, Stanley's Stanley's out.

752
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay. I don't think it's great.

753
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: I don't think it is either. I think I think

754
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: Lamar covers up some of that stuff with his mobility.

755
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: I would not have the top five line, No, I

756
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: don't think so either. I think Dallas is over there

757
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: a couple guys we mentioned two down.

758
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: One spot is Detroit means we have a new starting

759
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: or new top line this week.

760
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: They've struggled a little. I mean that's the backbone of

761
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: the of their team and it's been good, not great.

762
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: And then number one is Philadelphia. Philly. Yeah, if Kelsey's

763
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: playing as well as he ever has, which is remarkable,

764
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: I think Lane Johnson is supposed to return for this

765
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: big game. He's goes a long way. I mean those

766
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: two could be in Kelsey's Hall of Famer if they

767
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 3: beat the forty nine ers. It's because of that group.

768
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: I would think and being able to contained Bosa and

769
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: Hargrave and Jase Young. That's a great battle. We'll be huge. Yeah.

770
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 2: Anyways, that is the Pro Football Focus offensive line grade.

771
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: You think they're a little harsh on the Steelers offensive line.

772
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: I think you should be a little bit higher, remarkably higher,

773
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: maybe four or five spots. Yeah, and trending the right way,

774
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: not the wrong way.

775
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: I know.

776
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: I don't know how they moved down this week based

777
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: on what they did. They had their best offensive game

778
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: of the season, and the line moved down and the

779
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: run game is consistent. Yeah, yeah, and I bet they

780
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 2: do a number on the Cardinals front.

781
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Just a hunch, just a hunch.

782
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williams

783
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,080
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784
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,560
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785
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786
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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollie and uh you're listening to the

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Speaker 2: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, and Matt, I just

799
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: uh you the comment that you got from a listener

800
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: earlier this week or somebody. I assume it was a listener.

801
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: I don't know about the situation with Joey Porter Junior

802
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: comparing his stats to those of Saskat Okay, conversation from

803
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 2: last from last season. We were chatting earlier about Yeah,

804
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: tov little homework. I did go back and do a

805
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: little homework on this. And so Sauce Gardner last year,

806
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: it was really good.

807
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: He's really good. It was really good.

808
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: He's exceptional. So last season, Sauce Gardener was the runaway

809
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: winner of the NFL Rookie Year of the Year, Like

810
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: it wasn't even close. He wanted going away. He allowed

811
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: forty six completions on eighty six targets. That's a completion

812
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: percentage of it fifty three point five percent for four

813
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two yards, one touchdown, and two interceptions.

814
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: He allowed a passer rating of sixty two point seven

815
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: to quarterbacks who targeted him in coverage.

816
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: Great.

817
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: Great, Yeah.

818
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior this year eighteen completions in thirty six

819
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: pass attempts. That's fifty percent.

820
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, to work.

821
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: He's given up one touchdown his two hundred and seventy

822
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: seven receiving yards and interception passer rating of seventy three

823
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: point five. Now, obviously Gardner's passer rating is pretty different. Yeah,

824
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: but seventy three point five is still passer rating is excellent.

825
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: Excellent.

826
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: One of the other cornerbacks who's we just talked about

827
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: earlier this week's the ESPN article that the best players

828
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: under twenty four.

829
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Devin Witherspoon. Yes, people were raving about

830
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: him earlier about he's taken right.

831
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, first, he was playing great. He has one interception,

832
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: he's allowed four touchdown passes.

833
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: Really wow. A completion percentage of fifty five point nine

834
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: passer rating a lot of eighty three point seven. Not

835
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 3: even close. Like he's gotten a lot of buzz for

836
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 3: defensive Rookie of the Year, which I think Jalen Carter's

837
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 3: owned it. I mean, it's not even close between Carter

838
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: and Witherspoon, but sounds like Porter deserves it more than Witherspoon.

839
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: I would say so. I mean, obviously the one knock

840
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: against Porter. He became a full time player late in

841
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: the process, but he.

842
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: Was still playing before that. Yeah, Like it wasn't like

843
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: he was never on the field the first month of

844
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 2: the season.

845
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: He was out there and he still has a lot

846
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: of games left.

847
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: Yea where Oh, by the way, the difference between those

848
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: guys is he's matching up on the other team's top receiver.

849
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: He's traveling. Even Sauce doesn't do that. Sauce is a

850
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: left for They're a left right team. Reads on one side,

851
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: Gardner's on the other. They keep it very simple and

852
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: you get who you get.

853
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: Watch Devin Witherspoon tonight, see if he gets matched up

854
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: on Ceedee Lamb or probably you know, we'll see.

855
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I don't know how they

856
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: use them. But they also had the rookie last year,

857
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: who was right behind Sauce. Yeah, and the big tall

858
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: fourth round pick. I can't remember his namphlop man. So

859
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Speaker 3: the other guy who was on that list was Trent McDuffie. Yeah.

860
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Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie this season is allowing a passer rating of

861
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Speaker 2: ninety three point six.

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Speaker 3: Really that surprises me as a rookie.

863
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Speaker 2: Last season he allowed a passer rating of eighty six

864
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: point five. He has yet to record an interception in

865
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Speaker 2: his career. Interesting, Okay, he's on that list of.

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Speaker 3: Players under twenty four. Yeahs. From when I've watched McDuffie,

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Speaker 3: I thought he's I'm shocked by those numbers. He's a

868
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Speaker 3: good player. Yeah, they blitz him a lot. They do

869
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Speaker 3: a lot of different things with them. Interesting, I'm not

870
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Speaker 3: sure how many of those besides saw Us I would

871
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 3: trade Porter four straight up. I mean, if it came

872
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Speaker 3: down to it, you know, probably not to be honest

873
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Speaker 3: with you. I mean, he's really really impressive. Like you said,

874
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: his assignments are more difficult. His size is just such

875
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: an advantage, and it's like a condo rare like worries

876
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: me a little with Witherspoon. I mean, I didn't adore

877
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: Witherspoon coming out of school. He's not an ultra athlete.

878
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: He's a great football temperament, throw his body around, tough guy.

879
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's going to translate to a

880
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 3: long career though, you know. I mean, I hope. I'm

881
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: not wishing him any you know, lbing or whatever. But

882
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Speaker 3: I didn't love him as a top six or seven pick.

883
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hear you, you know, I don't. I

884
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Speaker 2: don't know what Joey Porter Junior needs to do to

885
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Speaker 2: get himself into that conversation. Maybe it might just be

886
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: played more, a couple more, you know, an interception. I

887
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: mean again, he's getting these quality matchups.

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00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he I mean he also travels to

889
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 3: the slot with these guys, yeah, which is rare. Which

890
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: is rare. A lot of times these matchup guys can

891
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: get away from a shadow, but just by moving to

892
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: the slot, yeah, you know, and he goes right there

893
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Speaker 3: with them.

894
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Speaker 2: Like I get that they had Patrick certain on that list.

895
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: I think he's the best corner. He's outstanding. I love

896
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: a sauce.

897
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 3: Gardner is a great football player. It'd be my second

898
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Speaker 3: corner in the league.

899
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: But the fact that Porter's having a similar season. Nobody's

900
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: talking about the fact that Porter's having a similar season

901
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: to what Sauce Gardner did last year.

902
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: And I don't think we're comparing, Oh he's better than Sauce,

903
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: you know, not necessarily what we're saying, but he deserves

904
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: to be maybe looked at in that light of rookie Sauce,

905
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yeah, I thought that was

906
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 3: a great tweet.

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00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: I just think people, I think overall people in the

908
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: league are looking at what happened with the Steelers defense

909
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: early in the season. Like nobody's talking about the Steelers

910
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: defense in general. Right, it's allowing fifteen points over the

911
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: last seven games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the stuff that's they've been doing lately is great.

913
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Speaker 2: You still see it in the NFL package that they

914
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Speaker 2: send out. Well the Steelers are you know, they're twenty

915
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Speaker 2: second against the run, Well not over the last two months.

916
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's for sure. And yes, there's an argument

917
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Speaker 3: that they've played Browning in DTR the last couple of weeks.

918
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Speaker 3: But it's not like every defense out there is facing Mahomes, Allen,

919
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers.

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00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: The Ravens of the like number one. Oh well they're

921
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: number one defense. Where the Cleveland's number one defense. Well,

922
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Speaker 2: they played some slop.

923
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Speaker 3: And frankly, I mean, I know they're their quarterback stretch

924
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: lately has not been daunting. But Love is looking really,

925
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: really good. Yeah, Steelers a nice job against him too,

926
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Speaker 3: you know, so you play who you play, I mean,

927
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Speaker 3: and I do think the defense has been quite good.

928
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Speaker 3: I think Porter has been exceptional. Now you get Maka

929
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Speaker 3: and now you get makea Ben. Yeah. Now now things

930
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: are starting.

931
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Speaker 2: Going to start to take Shape's quite how they expected it.

932
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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously they didn't expect the injuries at inside linebacker.

933
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Speaker 3: No one expects you to be fully healthy in December, right,

934
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Speaker 3: late November, right, I mean, so, I don't know if

935
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Speaker 3: you caught this in the stat pack, but the Steelers

936
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Speaker 3: and Niners are the only teams that are top five

937
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: in takeaways and points allowed. Those are pretty good categories.

938
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Speaker 3: If I take two categories, points allowed and maybe takeaways,

939
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Speaker 3: and then they're right there with the Niners. Yeah.

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00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, the Steelers now have a top five scoring

941
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Speaker 2: defense in the league. I actually figured this out this week.

942
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: So if they continue to allow fifteen points per game

943
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Speaker 2: an average of that the rest of the season, they'll

944
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Speaker 2: finish averaging allowing. Uh, that'll take them down to seventeen

945
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: point four points per game for the season, which.

946
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Speaker 3: Would be a really good year.

947
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't be top ten in Steelers history though, in terms

948
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: of even since the company, yeah, even since the the

949
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: NFL merger. I mean, we just measure defenses a little

950
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: bit differently here. But in today's game, you'll take.

951
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Speaker 3: That, Oh, you'll take that. I'm not sure they'll give

952
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: up thirty points over the next two games. Well, I

953
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Speaker 3: would bet the under on that. Yeah, I was making fifteen.

954
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 3: They could give up twenty to Arizona this week. That's

955
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Speaker 3: why I did still take the under. Yeah, that's why

956
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Speaker 3: I didn't. Arizona could get to fifteen.

957
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Well, that's gonna be like a python,

958
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: just kind of squeezing the life out of an offense.

959
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Speaker 3: They're gonna have. First downs are gonna be hard to.

960
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: Come by, yeah, I mean they give ten first downs

961
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Speaker 2: last week against the Bengals, and the Bengals have skill

962
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Speaker 2: players that are oh.

963
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no matter who New Angles plays, first towns are

964
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Speaker 3: hard to come by. Yeah, let alone a good defense that's.

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Speaker 2: Bad anyways, that's gonna do it for today's show. So

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Speaker 2: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Brian Lamartine here on

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Speaker 2: site keeping us on the air.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lally.

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