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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: This is nick shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 2: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 2: Heckma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: Well, so far we have all survived cut down day

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League, but we still have a

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Speaker 3: few more hours to go. In fact, it would be

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Speaker 3: about it's nine o'clock on Monday morning, three o'clock tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Tuesday afternoon, we'll be cutdowns officially get down to fifty three.

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Speaker 3: So how many hours away would that be? The quick

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Speaker 3: Matt says, thirty hours away. We are thirty hours away

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Speaker 3: from cutdown day.

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Speaker 1: Brutal decisions. I'm glad we don't really have to worry

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Speaker 1: about cutdown in this room.

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Speaker 3: We have we have to work about it. You show

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Speaker 3: ever since that there's not a deadline for us. We

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Speaker 3: can we can kind of cut at three oh one tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: All right from your mouth today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly so, or it could be October first. We

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Speaker 3: just we're day to day here on mixshots, and we're

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Speaker 3: here three days this week we're at nine o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 3: We'll be at noon on Wednesday. And I think I

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Speaker 3: heard noon on Friday, and then it becomes a regular

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Speaker 3: occurrence from weekdays.

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Speaker 4: From then on, I detect no objections from the Well,

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Speaker 4: you didn't hear a bell ring or a noise in

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Speaker 4: the back, so I don't know if yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: skipped over third.

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Speaker 5: Well you missed something, Producer Supreme, you missed something. You

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Speaker 5: guys are also on Thursday. Yeah, we are on Thursday

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Speaker 5: this week. So Wednesday is when all the podcast are

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Speaker 5: on Wednesday, and you guys go until the end of

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Speaker 5: the season, except on Labor Day and on travel Day.

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Speaker 3: But so our regular time slot will be at noon weekdays, weekdays.

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Speaker 3: I'm starting Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: Starting Wednesday, you'll go Wednesday, Thursday, Friday this week, and

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Speaker 5: then I'm gonna give you labor.

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Speaker 3: We don't Yeah, we don't have labor.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys are laboring.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, well guess what you but no one else

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Speaker 3: appetite for podcasts exactly.

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Speaker 5: There's no appetite for pots. And then you'll go on Tuesday,

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Speaker 5: and then Wednesday, Mickey and I will be on an

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Speaker 5: airplane headed dry.

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Speaker 3: We won't be on Wednesday next week Philadelphia travel Day.

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Speaker 1: But we will be back on Friday to talk about

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but it's noon o'clock is when we're time? Will

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Speaker 3: be yes, all right.

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Speaker 6: Even if we get back about four in the morning.

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Speaker 5: Suck it up, Mick, what do you mean I've been

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Speaker 5: doing that for all these years?

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Speaker 1: All right? So we got much to get to.

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Speaker 3: No, no dilly dally in around here we go.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: HECMA has given our run sheet.

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Speaker 1: Let me say you, I know that one of those things.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad we have HECMA hair because this show would

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Speaker 4: be off the way.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking of it. I'm reading you this, this

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Speaker 3: run sheet after and I call it a run sheet

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Speaker 3: because it's after Hecta's run each morning. Yes, what time

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Speaker 3: do you run?

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Speaker 1: It's four o'clock in the morning, in the morning thoughts.

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Speaker 1: This is just the idea, is Mick, I got down

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Speaker 1: here eighteen am.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know what I like about it most

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Speaker 3: is that it gets ever sit on track, right, you're.

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Speaker 1: Looking out for me. I'll never get this familiar.

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Speaker 6: You prepared, he prepares mistake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 6: He I believe you that.

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Speaker 1: I'll send it to because I was ready on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I was just like, you know what, Yeah, this was

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Speaker 3: not something. This was messed up that you just threw

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Speaker 3: together the last second he.

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Speaker 4: Had me, and he's been drilling down on it ever

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Speaker 1: Guys are making fun now making fun up.

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Speaker 7: I just listened to Bill at Sunday night. Then I

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Speaker 7: know what he wants to talk about.

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Speaker 3: We had Babe Laffenburg on last night, so it was

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Speaker 3: whatever Babeloffenberg wanted to talk about. I would have we

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Speaker 3: would have had a completely different show if Babe wouldn't

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Speaker 1: He was.

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Speaker 4: He was very kind about He was very kind about

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Speaker 4: telling the story of how he got cut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right off the right off the bat, Yeah cut

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Speaker 3: by Jimmy Johnson. I remember I was there too in Austin.

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Speaker 3: We were reminiscing about that and anyway, all right.

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Speaker 1: When yeah away on that, yeah.

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Speaker 7: That that memory kicked in gear last week for me,

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Speaker 7: And that's why I wrote about how important the backup

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Speaker 7: of the ninety season, they needed to win one more

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Speaker 6: Had to be the backup quarterback.

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Speaker 7: He had to be the starting, quote start, but he

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Speaker 7: win one of the last two games, and they were

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Speaker 7: going to make the playoffs, and they got beat by Philadelphia.

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Speaker 7: Horrible game and came in I think it was first

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Speaker 7: And even if they had gone to Atlanta the final

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Speaker 1: Nine in the Saints won, and they won on.

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Speaker 7: A walk off field coal on Monday night football torture

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Speaker 7: the very end of everything, this torture.

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Speaker 3: None of this was on heck was run cheap.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, I'm just had.

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Speaker 4: My hands to understand this part of this show. We

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Speaker 4: don't follow the script. I'm already there that ture I

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Speaker 4: have played if they would have made the wild card, If.

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Speaker 7: They they I would they would have had a chance

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Speaker 7: to beat Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: No, if he would have played in the.

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Speaker 7: Game, had they Uh no, because he separated his shoulder. Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: Let me get to the point of what Mickey is

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Speaker 3: talking about. Yes, Babe stuck around the next year. He

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Speaker 3: cut right at the end of training camp. Well, what

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Speaker 3: the cow What did the Cowboys do at backup quarterback

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Speaker 3: leading into that nineteen ninety one season. Now is they

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Speaker 6: And the rest of the story is, and that's what's going

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Speaker 3: There are players that right now, right that they're going

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Speaker 3: I've got a shot at making the team. Then they

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Speaker 3: get called in to in this case Shoty's office and

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Speaker 3: find out that they didn't make the team, and.

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Speaker 1: Lo and behold.

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Speaker 3: A few days later, you find out, here's the reason

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Speaker 3: you didn't make the team. They got a trade in

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Speaker 3: the works for Steve Burline.

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Speaker 1: So have you guys watched never Mind? Good? Yeah, never Mind?

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Speaker 6: I to Bene watched it.

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Speaker 1: You watched only two episodes?

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Speaker 6: From me, no, I finished only two episodes. It was

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Speaker 6: a great look at my life for thirty seven years.

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Speaker 1: You saw yourself.

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Speaker 6: Well, I lived through the this'.

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Speaker 1: Is a nasty mustache you had too. How'd you grow

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Speaker 1: that back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It has a little slimeball to it. Well I love

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Speaker 6: And now if I throw back as multi.

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Speaker 1: Colors, yea, live with it, yea with come on make

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Speaker 1: one time November went out, no shave. He growing back.

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Speaker 1: He really looks sleazy with the.

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Speaker 7: When I grow a beer, if I grow a beard,

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Speaker 7: like when I go skin, everything's kind of gets start

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Speaker 6: But this stays black and it just looks Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 6: Just what he looks fake?

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, So the bottom line was Steve Berline came

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Speaker 7: in and won.

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Speaker 1: Five consecutives games.

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Speaker 7: When I needed to win, they were six and five,

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Speaker 7: went to Washington beat him twenty four to twenty one.

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Speaker 7: U Berlin took over early in the third quarter and

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Speaker 6: Because they had a quality backup.

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Speaker 1: Competent quarterback. That's the word competent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I fell in love with I fell in love

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Speaker 3: And by the way, later in his career he played

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Speaker 4: And he's one of those guys. Man, you know, I

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Speaker 7: I am, And he and El Davis got into it

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Speaker 7: and got in Al's doghouse and never played the nineties

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Speaker 7: Al just know when you're in the doghouse. The Cowboys

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Speaker 7: tried trading him for three times. That's how important. They

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Speaker 4: When I met him, I told him how much I

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Speaker 4: admired this game. Yeah, yeah, I had to because I

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Speaker 6: Out, bro And they didn't have to play. In ninety two.

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Speaker 7: They win the Super Bowl and Carolina came calling ninety

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Speaker 7: were going to rely on Jason Garrett until Troy got hurt.

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Speaker 7: Garrett started the next game, and they acquired Bernie Kozar,

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Speaker 7: and then had to finish the NFC title game that year.

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Speaker 3: Can we ready to talk about the twenty twenty.

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Speaker 6: Five Well, and now we get to the backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 3: That was all to set up the backup court? Is

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Speaker 3: the who is the backup quarterback for this team?

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Speaker 1: That's an easy call. Well, great today? Is that what

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Speaker 1: you said that? That's not what I'm saying. That's not

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Speaker 1: what you say. You said Joe Milton, Yeah, I said Shilton. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I say Milton. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: All right, then what you've seen from him? Can Joe

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Speaker 3: Milton do what Steve Berlin did in nineteen ninety one,

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Speaker 3: which has win five straight games? Or can he do

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Speaker 1: I saw this last game.

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Speaker 4: I was I must admit, guys, I was pleasantly surprised

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Speaker 4: with the poise that Milton showed in the game. I

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, who is this guy that's out.

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Speaker 6: Here playing well?

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Speaker 1: It was in Milton's uniform.

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Speaker 6: It was great improvement. Now do you trust it?

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Speaker 7: Try well, not even the level of competition, because he

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Speaker 6: But do you trust it?

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Speaker 6: That's gonna make you go, oh, well, maybe I saw a.

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Speaker 6: He developed, but he has one game of NFL experience.

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Speaker 4: Once again, you know that already when you signed him.

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Speaker 4: So we understand that. But from god awful Game one,

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Speaker 4: Game three. Once again, I understand the competition, but he

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Speaker 4: What the hell is that kind of throw?

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Speaker 3: You know, he did one early in the game, and

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Speaker 1: Could have been touched up.

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Speaker 3: He pattered and pattered the ball a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: Do we trust it? Right? And my answer from preseason

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Speaker 1: What would be the backup quarterback's biggest help Because when

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Speaker 1: from a physical he has all the attributes. Damn sure

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Speaker 7: And remember, after this week's over, he's not going to

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Speaker 6: So he is right now what he's going to be.

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Speaker 1: So development developments.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I'm the only one who knows

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Speaker 3: All the players that were playing in the game for

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Speaker 3: on Friday night almost all I'm exaggerating. They got cut

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Speaker 6: Did they bring them home?

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Speaker 3: They may not have there's a bust so, but the

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Speaker 3: Will Greer And I was thinking about this. You know

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Speaker 3: Right, so to his benefit he was able to do

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Speaker 1: And that, to me is the one thing that's unnerving.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two. Cooper Rush goes four and one and

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Speaker 7: It was did you hear Jerry's answer to that on

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Speaker 3: And by the way, what happened yesterday in the league.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, if you've watched a

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Speaker 1: really hard to gauge performance based off of that. But man,

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Speaker 1: You think you think it has anything to do with

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Speaker 3: I think it has to do that you're getting your

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Speaker 7: So you want to take that nine hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 6: That's all he's going to cost against the cap.

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Speaker 7: dismiss all of training camp too. Because what he did

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Speaker 7: Friday night was better than anything.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you're giving up on Joe Hilton at all.

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Speaker 7: It's Trey Lance, right. They gave Trey Lance all that leeway,

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Speaker 1: I mean, any any quarterback, any any unprepared quarterback for

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I remember.

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Speaker 7: I remember what Jimmy told Berline when he had to

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Speaker 7: Do not take a snack.

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Speaker 1: What you got to do is put in context how

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Speaker 7: The Cowboys beat them in that. Look that game fifteen

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Speaker 7: Jerry basically told UH. That told us that if we

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Speaker 1: Don't have any no, no one yet, no names yet.

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Speaker 3: You know there was a report yesterday that college.

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Speaker 1: Probably is it for Andrey or just lack of good play?

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Speaker 3: Well, and he arrived late, and so it would not

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Speaker 3: a claim on that play. You may like a player,

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Speaker 3: you cut him early to try to get him to

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Speaker 1: Be real slick to do that. Yeah, who is that?

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Speaker 1: It used to be a lot easier to Yeah, who

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Speaker 1: is that guy? Who is the guy that you wish

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Speaker 1: like you can slide through and not allow any other

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Speaker 3: Well, the first one that pops to mind for me

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Speaker 3: is Trehawn holding holding Yeah, wide receive him?

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Speaker 1: What about you, Mick, you got a guy?

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Speaker 6: It might have to be Marfa film off.

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Speaker 3: That's that's Marfa.

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Speaker 1: That's my guy.

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Speaker 3: That's a city in Texas always has like the highest

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Speaker 4: Temper That's that's that's like that that I like the

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Speaker 4: guy the film off. Yeah, I think he's I was, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping they keep him, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I thought he looked good earlier in.

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Speaker 3: Count And this is this is the same conversation that's

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Speaker 3: going on. They're having the other other side of the

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Speaker 3: building here, this.

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Speaker 6: Is where can you go?

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Speaker 7: Where can you go long somewhere where you really need

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Speaker 7: to go along?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: And then what's the demand around the league? How many

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Speaker 3: other teams have a Phil MafA or a tray Shawn

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Speaker 3: Holden that they're having the same conversation about. So if

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Speaker 3: other teams are in the same if all the other

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Speaker 3: teams are in the same boat you are, you might

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Speaker 3: be able to get guys through. But all it takes

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Speaker 3: is one to like your guy, and now you're lost.

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Speaker 1: Nobody nobody asked, but my guy is Houston Okay, just

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Speaker 1: gonna James Houston, Yeah, fifty three. I think he showed

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Speaker 1: out in the preseason. I know is Jackson State, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jackson State guy. You know, there's obviously some guys in

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Speaker 1: the secondary that I love that may not get an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Number thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: Uh Clark, Elijah Clark.

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Speaker 1: Elijah Clark, and I think him and one year Thomas

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Speaker 1: are you know, when they break that whole thing down,

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Speaker 1: I'm really going to be interested to see who makes

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Speaker 1: it out of that room.

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Speaker 3: On the flip side of that, Okay, those are guys

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Speaker 3: the other.

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Speaker 4: The linebackers, they have a couple of guys there that

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Speaker 4: I wish they could hold on.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 7: I saw somebody cut the linebackers and they only kept five.

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Speaker 6: I think you got to keep six just because of special.

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Speaker 7: Teams and the guys like on the edge, Puddy Johnson.

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Speaker 6: Who's the other guy I was thinking of that You

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Speaker 6: can Clark, He's on it.

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Speaker 1: He's on it. Okay, I'm gonna go. Uh.

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Speaker 3: The only the only thing that would would be Jius

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Speaker 3: Harris too. Yeah, the only thing that would be an

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Speaker 3: issue on the mont Clark is his salary, and that

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Speaker 3: that is something that factors in, but what he and

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Speaker 3: so going into training camp, I'm thinking he needs to

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Speaker 3: have a good camp because because of the amount of

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Speaker 3: time he has played and started in this league, his

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Speaker 3: salary went up this year at like three and a

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Speaker 3: half million, and so now you've got a projected backup

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Speaker 3: player making that, and so he would have been on

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Speaker 3: the bubble because of that. But I think he showed

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Speaker 3: out and.

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Speaker 1: He showed you enough, Yeah, to show you enough.

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Speaker 4: And with.

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Speaker 3: Just around the league, injuries happened to linebackers, and so

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Speaker 3: you want as much depth as you can have there.

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Speaker 7: And get one linebacker hurt and then who's.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly Now, all of a sudden, the position of

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Speaker 1: into this Brian Schottenhamer administration was would he make the

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Speaker 1: tough cuts, you know, the tough decision. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: right now they're probably facing that, especially in the interior

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Speaker 1: defensive line. That's just where I was headed. I want

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Speaker 1: to see go ahead. I'm just no, just say I

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Speaker 1: you know, has he shown you enough? Are you at

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Speaker 1: that point? Unfortunately? I think even for the left tackle

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Speaker 1: and for me, Tyler Geiden was a guy that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to see through camp. I wanted to see him

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Speaker 1: in preseason games. I wanted to see how he performed.

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Speaker 1: But do you feel like Nate Thomas in these last

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Speaker 1: couple of preseason games showed you enough? Also backing up

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Speaker 1: Awesome Richards, who I don't know how to heck this happening,

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Speaker 1: And Mick, I'm sure you got the backstory to this.

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Speaker 1: How awesome Richards fell out of favor with the front

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Speaker 1: office and coaches because I thought he was the heir

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Speaker 1: apparent as far as the backup was concerned, And all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, now your offensive line room looks jamp.

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Speaker 1: I haven't.

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Speaker 3: I haven't talked to offensive line coach Connor Riley about it.

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Speaker 3: But sometimes it can happen just because of the coaching change.

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Speaker 3: And some people like vanilla ice cream, some people like

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Speaker 3: chocolate ice cream. The same thing happened with Demon Clark

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Speaker 3: coming here. I mean with Mike Zimmer last year. Obviously

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Speaker 3: he did fit with Zim, but he does more so

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Speaker 3: with ebra flus maybe, and it may be with an

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Speaker 3: offensive line. I'm just throwing that out.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Well, it could.

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Speaker 3: Be just a change in a coach is.

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Speaker 7: And not only that, they they needed help at backup guard,

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Speaker 7: and so they kind of slid Awesome.

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Speaker 3: Versatibility to play either one now if.

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Speaker 7: He was good enough to start, but if everything was equal,

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Speaker 7: I think they liked the size and strength of Nate

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Speaker 7: Thomas better over over Awesome, because I thought awesome last

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Speaker 7: year was he was good, I.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't going to go awesome.

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Speaker 7: But I think he makes the team as a swing

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Speaker 7: tackle guard Nate Thomas, and that.

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Speaker 3: Is one of the main reasons would make the team

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Speaker 3: because of his versatility.

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Speaker 7: And and and the two offensive line coaches love Nate

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Speaker 7: Thomas so.

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Speaker 6: And which is another decision they have to make.

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Speaker 7: When you I started this, somebody's gonna have to go

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Speaker 7: on injured reserve, right, so you get two automatic guys.

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Speaker 7: Mingo's gonna be one one of them, and then you

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Speaker 7: got another spot, and then you may have to keep

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Speaker 7: a guy that's not ready to play for four weeks.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know where Geyton is, but I don't

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Speaker 7: think he's close. I don't think the tight end span

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Speaker 7: Keep those guys and then twenty four hours later put

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Speaker 7: him on injured reserve and then bring the other guy back,

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Speaker 7: and you have.

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Speaker 3: The other If Johnathan Mingo's getting one of the two

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Speaker 3: injured reserved return slots when you set the fifty three,

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Speaker 3: you have another one of those available too for that

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Speaker 3: as well. And we need to go to break here.

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Speaker 3: I'll throw out another thing that I've been thinking about

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Speaker 3: the running back position. Miles Sanders, veteran guy, not a

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Speaker 3: big contract. He could be a guy that you cut now,

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Speaker 3: bring back later and and just say don't go anywhere,

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Speaker 3: and you keep you're able to keep one of your

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Speaker 3: other guys, you know.

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Speaker 1: And if Marfa Marfa guh uh huh.

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Speaker 6: And if he and if he clears waivers, you can

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Speaker 6: sign him to the.

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Speaker 3: Project practice squad even if it could and teams will

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Speaker 3: do this around the league. If you're a veteran guy

682
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Speaker 3: like that is on the practice squad hit the first

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Speaker 3: week of the season, it does not guarantee his salary

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Speaker 3: for the entire season.

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Speaker 1: Then you can make you how many running backs.

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Speaker 6: You keep if Lipkey count damn it, Yeah he does.

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Speaker 7: Well, then four for sure, maybe five depending on what

688
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Speaker 7: I do at the tight end position.

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Speaker 3: And if you think it, Lipkey could is also a

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Speaker 3: backup tight end.

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Speaker 7: Yeah exactly, and and they and they've done that with

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Speaker 7: Fan as a tight end full back, so that makes

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Speaker 7: him more valuable. And you've got to figure out now

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Speaker 7: how soon's overshown get not overshown. I do it all

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Speaker 7: the time, Scoon maker going to get back from the concussion.

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Speaker 6: Can he help me?

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Speaker 1: Two Michigan guys right at tight end?

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Speaker 3: Yes, m's be nice.

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Speaker 6: Well if they can play.

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Speaker 1: Trying to figure out who to the Michigan guys, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to who is?

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Speaker 6: Well, they they had who was the other Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Guy Michigan two Misigan guys not at tight end.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you're thinking two big ten guys.

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Speaker 1: But either way you got a discussion.

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Speaker 3: Three big ten guys at tight end. All right, we'll

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Speaker 3: figure that out. It might even might even take a

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Speaker 3: phone call. We might We're going to take a phone call.

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Speaker 1: The Mixed Shots. H m hmmmm.

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Speaker 7: Mhm.

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Speaker 1: Hot's party.

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Speaker 7: Okay, let you want to know who Schottenheimer thought showed out.

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Speaker 1: In the game.

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Speaker 3: Go for it.

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Speaker 6: So when conference call.

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Speaker 7: On the conference call yesterday, he mentioned Houston Clark Smith.

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Speaker 3: Mike Smith safety safety and Elijah Clark's the safety.

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Speaker 6: Right, Duce low NOI and uh Jalen Brooks.

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Speaker 7: And then kind of footing afterthought, he goes, oh, and

755
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Speaker 7: Joe was really good.

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Speaker 1: And Joe and yeah, now Clark played man. He I

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Speaker 1: love it. He's nasty, you know that that is not

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Speaker 1: afraid to put his nose in there. The problem is

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Speaker 1: how's he and coverage. He's playing safety, so he's got

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Speaker 1: to show more than just the ability to hit.

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Speaker 3: All right, Producer Supreme has been selling me on this. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we take a phone call.

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Speaker 6: Sure, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: This is a huge fan of Mickey. Well, then one problem,

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Speaker 3: there's there's one problem. He lives in Philly.

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Speaker 6: Is he a relative.

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Speaker 3: Relatives in Philly? Uh? Named Albert?

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Speaker 1: Elbert?

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Speaker 3: Albert in Philly. You are the poor and maybe the

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Speaker 3: only caller to mixhot this season. Congratulations, Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 12: I used to grill Mickey many times in Washington hotels

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Speaker 12: on the travel agency in the morning of the games.

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Speaker 12: Ever since, the honored to talk to you. You're one

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Speaker 12: of six cowboys who should be in a ring of honor,

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Speaker 12: not the guys who are going in this year. And

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Speaker 12: heckma welcome. My issue. My issue is this we have

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Speaker 12: the first time in a long time to revamp our

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Speaker 12: safety room. I'm a huge fan, huge fan of Michael Downes,

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Speaker 12: and I see Izzy mccuamu as a poor man's version

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Speaker 12: of Michael Downs. He brings cornerback mentality, true range and

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Speaker 12: speed to and height to a position. In my opinion,

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Speaker 12: we haven't taken seriously since George Teak, and it disgusts me.

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Speaker 12: I would love to find out. I would love to

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Speaker 12: find a way to keep as many as many young

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Speaker 12: safeties as I can and still include childrens. He is

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Speaker 12: a safety we had to get rid of C J.

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Speaker 12: Goodwin and hell Jalen Tolbert makes this team over over

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Speaker 12: Brooks and FLORINOI is comical to me and Sam Sam

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Speaker 12: Willis will be going to.

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Speaker 3: Well, all right, Albert, well we they need to continue

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Speaker 3: taking call.

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Speaker 4: He's the HECMA of call in. He has.

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Speaker 1: You right up.

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Speaker 4: You have to understand, not that organized. He was an

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Speaker 4: organized call, an organized zumber here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, take a safety. He take a safety serious, George

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Speaker 1: t that was crazy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, man, So I'll start backwards. The last thing you

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Speaker 7: mentioned was mclomo. They have tried him, and I don't

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Speaker 7: I don't know if this was process of elimination or

802
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Speaker 7: showing how versatile he could be, because at first they

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Speaker 7: had him in the slot at corner, then they had

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Speaker 7: him outside at corner, and now these last week or so,

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Speaker 7: they've had him at safety, so I'm not sure if

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Speaker 7: they're interviewing for where he fits best if he can

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Speaker 7: do every No, he did not play.

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Speaker 4: He played long into into this. I think he played

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Speaker 4: a lot more than I expected him to play.

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Speaker 6: It was the second half and he played well.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you.

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Speaker 3: Well, you keep talking, I'll look at up.

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Speaker 6: I got it right here.

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Speaker 1: What did you like him? More safety or a corner

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Speaker 1: He played forty nine snaps.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of snaps of Makuamo in the in

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Speaker 4: the last preseason game.

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Speaker 7: And I do not like him in the slot for sure.

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Speaker 7: He's not if it's a big nickel like, okay, you're

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Speaker 7: in the slot. You got the tight end that can

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Speaker 7: get down the field.

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Speaker 6: I'm fine with that. On the outside, he's not a cornerback.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he's not a cornerback.

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Speaker 7: And I know he had the interception in the game.

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Speaker 7: It's just this, But but what else?

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Speaker 1: Don't trivialize in the seconds? Man, you're right.

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Speaker 4: The first thing you gotta do watch out. I have

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Speaker 4: to agree with you. Uh, big nicol is the best

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Speaker 4: place for him. He cannot play one on one against

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Speaker 4: a good slot receiver. It's hard for any veteran to

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Speaker 4: do that much less have a young guy like him

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Speaker 4: trying to do it, and his size.

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Speaker 3: You know where he's gonna wind up if he gets

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Speaker 3: cut here Washington, I think, so, yeah, he's a He's

835
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Speaker 3: that guy that Quinn would use as a nickel linebacker.

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Speaker 1: The thing is him and Nashon Wright. They came in together,

837
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Speaker 1: both two really big guys. They ended up trading I

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Speaker 1: think to Seattle. I don't remember Minnesota men Minnesota trading, okay,

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Speaker 1: but you know that was that whole. You know, Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll kind of going big, you know, with the safeties

841
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Speaker 1: and corner of the corner position. Man. I love mccuomo

842
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Speaker 1: from his great footwork. Man, he's one of those guys

843
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Speaker 1: he tracks well but short spaces. So he's so tall and.

844
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Speaker 4: Rangy it's like it's hard to turn on the diamond do.

845
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Speaker 4: So that's the comparison to Michael Downs. And so you

846
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Speaker 4: know that you don't want him on the wide receiver.

847
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Speaker 4: You want him on the big you want him on

848
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Speaker 4: the big nickel. I like him in the back.

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Speaker 1: I like him.

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Speaker 4: He can still track the ball pretty well, just I

851
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Speaker 4: don't want him doing it from covering a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He does have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he does have ball skills, which I think is

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Speaker 4: important for this team.

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Speaker 6: So what was the other part of the question. Mkwama

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Speaker 6: was at the end right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well he said it was laughable that jayaln tober the squad.

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Speaker 7: I think, well, I think with with Mingo, uh probably,

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Speaker 7: Well he is going on, I R you can keep

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Speaker 7: floor no Flo and Brooks.

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Speaker 4: And Brooks and yeah, showing a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Good and he did that in the last in this

863
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Speaker 1: last game, he really showed.

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Speaker 3: Your receivers that you're keeping our CD pickings Cavante and.

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Speaker 1: You got Brooks, Brooks, Brooks, I think you got to

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Speaker 1: keep six and then the the other one I.

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Speaker 3: Think, and then then you got a lot of seventh

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Speaker 3: in Mingo being on back, he.

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Speaker 1: Brought up C. J. Goodwin and you know how important specialty?

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Speaker 1: I agree. Okay at that point, now.

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Speaker 7: There's a reason why he didn't play the whole preseason.

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Speaker 7: It's not because they like.

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Speaker 1: It's extremely important specialty.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, so that that's not happening.

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Speaker 1: I still appreciate the call.

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Speaker 6: Good stuff, but that's good thinking.

877
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Speaker 7: And then the cornerback position is going to be dependent

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Speaker 7: on Okay, So they took digs off of pup or

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Speaker 7: off of Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Man? Well, think about it.

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Speaker 7: I think he's ready, but I don't know if he's

882
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Speaker 7: ready to play or is he ready to play?

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Speaker 6: Sixty snaps.

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Speaker 1: M. I'm like, I was gonna ask you beat me

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Speaker 1: to the press.

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Speaker 6: So now is he ready to play?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Howp So the reason that you're putting your activating him

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Speaker 3: is not necessarily for the Philadelphia game. It's so that

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Speaker 3: you have him at some point during September.

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Speaker 7: Before the four games expired, because if you didn't do that,

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Speaker 7: he's out for four four games.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: It does It does kind of make things a little

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Speaker 4: bit more comfortable for the Cowboys as for.

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Speaker 6: At least it's trending in the right.

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Speaker 1: Right, he was in your doghouse big time.

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Speaker 7: He should have been ready for the start of training

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Speaker 7: if he had done what he was supposed to.

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Speaker 1: We have to bring in a call in on that one.

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Speaker 1: Cost him half a million dollars.

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Speaker 3: To have her as a guest on her about there.

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Speaker 1: You gotta find your way out of Mickey's doghouse.

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Speaker 6: Come on the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I did it for Monday.

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Speaker 1: I got another long list of sending ready.

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Speaker 3: We are ready, right, so now you can just copy

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Speaker 3: and paste, finish.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to overtime. Alright.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take tomorrow off and then we're going to

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Speaker 3: be back Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday at high Now, jocks,

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Speaker 3: what did you say with Everson?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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