WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Russell Wilson’s Longevity, Albert Breer

0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.520
<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio.

0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:06.720
<v Speaker 2>It's The Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio.

0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:10.720
<v Speaker 3>LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here in

0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.280
<v Speaker 3>for Dan and the guys. You can hear us weekday

0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.280
<v Speaker 3>mornings on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Monday

0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.479
<v Speaker 3>through Friday, six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific. But

0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.280
<v Speaker 3>we are in for the boys here on this three

0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.200
<v Speaker 3>hour extravaganza taking you all the way up until noon

0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Eastern time, nine o'clock Pacific.

0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Still kind of reeling from lead.

0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:33.800
<v Speaker 3>To lap our executive producers hot dog count from yesterday

0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:38.880
<v Speaker 3>on National hot Dog Day, revolting the five hot dogs

0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Lee had yesterday in a four to five hour span

0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:44.080
<v Speaker 3>because it was Hot Dog Day?

0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Is that more than you've had in your entire life?

0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Brady? Like that?

0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.000
<v Speaker 5>I'd have to go back so far to think about

0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.320
<v Speaker 5>the last time. I mean, I haven't ate many hot dogs.

0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.040
<v Speaker 5>I threw him up once I was a kid, and

0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.040
<v Speaker 5>that was kind of it. Once you see, like what

0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.960
<v Speaker 5>you eat thrown back up, it's hard to then eat

0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:04.400
<v Speaker 5>that again.

0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.360
<v Speaker 6>At least that's that's not his for me. I don't

0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:12.840
<v Speaker 6>know if it is for you guys, I mean, is

0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:13.720
<v Speaker 6>that is that too much?

0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:13.959
<v Speaker 4>That?

0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:14.280
<v Speaker 6>Tm?

0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I just have a weak stomach. Man, It's all good.

0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.319
<v Speaker 5>You If you could have seen the way I threw

0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.120
<v Speaker 5>up all over this little like back patio. It was

0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.400
<v Speaker 5>covered and it was a combination of hot dogs, orange.

0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:29.600
<v Speaker 6>Juice, and chips.

0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.520
<v Speaker 5>At like six in the morning, my dad, Chopper came

0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.720
<v Speaker 5>out and just goes, what the hell. He just he

0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.200
<v Speaker 5>gets the hose out, He sprang down the back patio.

0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:42.120
<v Speaker 6>He sprang me down.

0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.760
<v Speaker 5>At the same time, I'm like, in my pajamas is

0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:46.640
<v Speaker 5>soaking wet with puke and everything on me.

0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.760
<v Speaker 6>It was, oh, not good.

0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, it brings up a fond memory of throwing

0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.120
<v Speaker 4>up for for me as well.

0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:55.800
<v Speaker 6>You know New Orleans.

0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.320
<v Speaker 4>No not, I didn't throw up in New Orleans. In

0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.240
<v Speaker 4>New Orleans, no, no, I did it. I did it.

0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.880
<v Speaker 4>But my daughter, she didn't want to go to school

0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.800
<v Speaker 4>this one day in particular, the one that just celebrated

0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.280
<v Speaker 4>her tenth birthday. And she's like, oh, you know, my

0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.640
<v Speaker 4>stomach is hurting, like, my stomach hurts. And you know,

0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.880
<v Speaker 4>you's an eight year old kid, You're like, your stomach

0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.040
<v Speaker 4>doesn't hurt. Your stomach is going to be just fine.

0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.280
<v Speaker 4>You gotta go to school. We're driving to school. We

0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.560
<v Speaker 4>almost are to school. She's like, Dad, my stomach hurts.

0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.960
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, I was like, it's just odd

0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.600
<v Speaker 4>that the closer we're getting to school. And before I

0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.639
<v Speaker 4>could even finish my sentence, she I mean she hit

0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.400
<v Speaker 4>the back seat up, she hit my arm, the arm rest,

0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:47.919
<v Speaker 4>the foot. Oh, you wasn't lying. And it looked like it.

0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.720
<v Speaker 4>It looked like kepto bismal. I had no idea why

0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.239
<v Speaker 4>it came out that the color that it did, and

0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.519
<v Speaker 4>like the texture of what it was. It was bad.

0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.160
<v Speaker 4>But I turned around and took her home.

0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, what's the old adage, you know, just listen to

0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:06.920
<v Speaker 3>your body. It'll tell you everything you need to know.

0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.680
<v Speaker 3>If something hurts, don't do it, if if if something

0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:11.079
<v Speaker 3>comes back.

0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.440
<v Speaker 4>What if you think somebody's given you an excuse? I

0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:15.040
<v Speaker 4>felt bad?

0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Only one way to prove you wrong.

0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:21.800
<v Speaker 4>Well, I've never questioned her again. She was telling the truth.

0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.440
<v Speaker 4>He got an honest kid, there, I guess. So I

0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.320
<v Speaker 4>gave it up all love it too.

0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.959
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you know if Russell Wilson's ready

0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.440
<v Speaker 3>to give it up yet clearly he's not uh. This

0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:39.240
<v Speaker 3>was in speaking with Connor Or of Sports Illustrated, Russell

0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Wilson spoke about how much longer he wants to play

0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.320
<v Speaker 3>quote five plus years. I can still throw the ball

0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.120
<v Speaker 3>sixty five seventy yards, I can still move, and I

0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.480
<v Speaker 3>think I'm capable of doing a lot. It's funny because

0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.760
<v Speaker 3>to me, being in Denver in my first year, I

0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.680
<v Speaker 3>was hurt most of the time and battled through it.

0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.320
<v Speaker 3>The second year, I felt like myself again. Then going

0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.760
<v Speaker 3>to Pittsburgh, obviously, unfortunately I got injured early in the season,

0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.920
<v Speaker 3>didn't end up the way we wanted it to, but

0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.000
<v Speaker 3>it just rejuvenated everything. And then being here in New

0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.560
<v Speaker 3>York with the Giants, it's like playing at the stadium

0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.840
<v Speaker 3>again knowing that I've held the trophy here before. So

0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.279
<v Speaker 3>that was Russell Wilson talking with Connor Orr about his

0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:22.240
<v Speaker 3>desire to keep playing four or five more years. This

0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:27.040
<v Speaker 3>is his fourth team in five years. Hasn't the market

0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of already spoken on him? And they just drafted

0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.400
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback in the first round, So it feels like

0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.200
<v Speaker 3>it's more likely that if.

0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.720
<v Speaker 4>He brought in a backup that could beat him out.

0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it just feels like it's more likely that if

0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.200
<v Speaker 3>he does want to play four or five more years,

0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.599
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be in situations like this where yeah,

0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.440
<v Speaker 3>he's the starter for the time being until the rookie

0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.560
<v Speaker 3>or the younger quarterback gets developed. That's what it feels

0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.080
<v Speaker 3>like at this point in his career.

0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:55.400
<v Speaker 4>God Cue, you got it.

0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:01.440
<v Speaker 5>I think it's hard for every athlete. It doesn't matter,

0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.760
<v Speaker 5>by the way, like at what level, but in particular

0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.919
<v Speaker 5>when you're at the professional level, and even for someone

0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.400
<v Speaker 5>who has won a Super Bowl, has been to two,

0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.440
<v Speaker 5>has you know, played at an MVP level, I think

0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:18.599
<v Speaker 5>to feel like they're not able to get the job

0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.839
<v Speaker 5>done right. I think we all like to some degree.

0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:26.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean, again, LeVar, I'm sure there's times when you see, man, man,

0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.440
<v Speaker 5>you're like, I could take them. Like, if I find

0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:29.760
<v Speaker 5>you need to go in for a few plays, I

0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.479
<v Speaker 5>could do it. Now can you do it consistently for

0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.800
<v Speaker 5>the entirety of a game, for the entirety of a season.

0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.680
<v Speaker 5>That's where it gets a lot more difficult, not only

0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.599
<v Speaker 5>for your level of performance, but just to stay healthy.

0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:41.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.000
<v Speaker 5>One of the things that he admitted to you when

0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.880
<v Speaker 5>he's saying this too, is the injuries that have crept

0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.960
<v Speaker 5>up more and more. You remember how durable Russell Wilson

0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.640
<v Speaker 5>was at the beginning of his career, despite the fact

0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.480
<v Speaker 5>that he put himself in harm's way all the time.

0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:57.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean, dude, how often did we see him in

0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.880
<v Speaker 5>his rookie and even second, third, fourth seas There'd be

0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.680
<v Speaker 5>these players where you like, holy cow, is Houdini? How

0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.400
<v Speaker 5>do you find his way out of that? How did

0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.080
<v Speaker 5>you make that throw? How did you make that player

0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:09.720
<v Speaker 5>get out of you know, and scrambled it to run

0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.200
<v Speaker 5>and pick up the first down. Now, at times, you know,

0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.239
<v Speaker 5>he never took the big shot for the most part,

0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.000
<v Speaker 5>but I think as it wore on and as he

0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.680
<v Speaker 5>kind of realized that that's harder and harder to do.

0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.880
<v Speaker 5>As you age and you're not quite as fast or explosive,

0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.200
<v Speaker 5>your game has to change as well. And I think

0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.279
<v Speaker 5>that's one of the things that not just for him,

0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.919
<v Speaker 5>it's difficult for any professional athlete to be able to

0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.320
<v Speaker 5>see that because the game mentally is slown down, like

0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.080
<v Speaker 5>what you see out there is like in slow mow.

0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.240
<v Speaker 5>You know where everyone's supposed to be, you know what

0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.800
<v Speaker 5>the responsibilities are. Then it becomes more of a battle

0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.120
<v Speaker 5>of the physical and your ability to actually do it

0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.520
<v Speaker 5>and get your body to do what you wanted to

0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.760
<v Speaker 5>do when you need it to be done. And that's

0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.960
<v Speaker 5>where I feel like there's a bit of a disconnect

0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.440
<v Speaker 5>probably between you know, how how he's feeling, how he's played,

0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.040
<v Speaker 5>but what he thinks about, you know, everything mentally, because

0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.440
<v Speaker 5>he's like, dude, this game's never felt easier in my

0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:12.360
<v Speaker 5>mind watching it and seeing it. So it's it's just

0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.280
<v Speaker 5>kind of interesting to me when you hear these words

0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:18.880
<v Speaker 5>because at times, you know they might come off it

0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.200
<v Speaker 5>sound like Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite.

0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.320
<v Speaker 6>You know, it comes off a little bit like that.

0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.000
<v Speaker 6>But how much you want to make a bet I

0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.160
<v Speaker 6>can throw a football over.

0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:34.280
<v Speaker 7>The mountain, I'll just say, like, at times it feels

0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.040
<v Speaker 7>like that, but then at other times you go, okay,

0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:38.840
<v Speaker 7>like he just feels like he's healthy.

0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.560
<v Speaker 5>Now, he's in a better spot to go and perform.

0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.640
<v Speaker 5>But time will tell. I mean the draft pick two

0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.080
<v Speaker 5>behind him that you know the fans are gonna be

0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.640
<v Speaker 5>clamoring for him. The organization is eventually gonna want to

0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.760
<v Speaker 5>see what they have in Jackson Dart. He's obviously a

0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.520
<v Speaker 5>first rund draft pick for a reason. So the running

0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:55.720
<v Speaker 5>is not kind of already on the wall. And I

0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.400
<v Speaker 5>think that's what makes it difficult for Russell Wilson. The

0:07:58.440 --> 0:07:59.720
<v Speaker 5>spot he has to.

0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:00.840
<v Speaker 6>Hit the ground running.

0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.040
<v Speaker 5>There can't be any lag or stall or anything in

0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.160
<v Speaker 5>his performance. And the injuries like he had last year

0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.200
<v Speaker 5>starting off in Pittsburgh where he couldn't get into the

0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.920
<v Speaker 5>season healthy, none of that can take place. He's got

0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.680
<v Speaker 5>a very very slim margin for air to start this thing,

0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.240
<v Speaker 5>get off on a hot start to maintain being the

0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:18.000
<v Speaker 5>starting quarterback.

0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:19.760
<v Speaker 3>By the way, to your point, he didn't miss a

0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.400
<v Speaker 3>start until his last year in Seattle, and I think

0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.040
<v Speaker 3>that was the mallet finger he suffered. He suffered the

0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.080
<v Speaker 3>mallet finger his final year in Seattle, and then he

0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.280
<v Speaker 3>missed a couple of games, But before that, never missed

0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.160
<v Speaker 3>a game, never missed a start his entire career.

0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.400
<v Speaker 5>And by the way, and I've told you this because

0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.000
<v Speaker 5>I to this day, i'd male finger my my index

0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:39.120
<v Speaker 5>fingers on my throng hands.

0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:40.480
<v Speaker 6>Never never felt the same after that.

0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.079
<v Speaker 5>And you know, again, I don't know exactly what he

0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.960
<v Speaker 5>went through from the procedure everything else, And it sounds

0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.760
<v Speaker 5>like something so small like LeVar.

0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.400
<v Speaker 6>Is probably like, oh, like what are you your index finger?

0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.680
<v Speaker 5>No, but it's like for a throw, it's important, right

0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.680
<v Speaker 5>like that, that's like a little thing where you see

0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.760
<v Speaker 5>like a major league baseball pitcher, he's like on the

0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.760
<v Speaker 5>il for like a hangnail, but like it's kind of

0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.840
<v Speaker 5>important if they can't throw the way they need to.

0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.000
<v Speaker 5>And I don't know that he's ever been the same

0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.200
<v Speaker 5>throwing the football in his career after that, and again

0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.280
<v Speaker 5>something small, but those injuries add up and it changes

0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:12.920
<v Speaker 5>the way you play.

0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.319
<v Speaker 4>Let me throw this out at you, guys. We talked

0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:20.760
<v Speaker 4>about Bill Belichick or excuse me, Robert Kraft and what

0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.600
<v Speaker 4>he had to say and taking the risk in hiring

0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Bill Belichick, which to me was a flex to remind

0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.720
<v Speaker 4>people like, let's slow down here. Let's not get carried

0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.440
<v Speaker 4>away about talking about Bill Belichick because he's going to

0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.559
<v Speaker 4>be a Hall of Fame coach. Let's not get carried

0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.680
<v Speaker 4>away about who he was a part of making a

0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.080
<v Speaker 4>legendary player. And Tom Brady because I'm the one that

0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.520
<v Speaker 4>made it all possible with what I did. He's searching

0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:52.120
<v Speaker 4>for that validation, he's searching for that appreciation. I look

0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:57.359
<v Speaker 4>at Russell Wilson, and I think he's searching for the validation.

0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:02.560
<v Speaker 4>I think he's still searching for or the appreciation. He's

0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.520
<v Speaker 4>going to two Super Bowls, as you've mentioned, he's won

0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.760
<v Speaker 4>one Super Bowl, as we've mentioned. I don't know what

0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.120
<v Speaker 4>the ten Pro Bowls are. I don't know if they

0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:19.200
<v Speaker 4>are first first ballot Pro Bowlers or if they're alternate

0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.400
<v Speaker 4>Pro Bowlers, which it does. I mean at some point,

0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it still matters, but at some

0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.920
<v Speaker 4>point it mattered if you were an alternate versus if

0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:29.840
<v Speaker 4>you were a starter to the Pro Bowl. So I

0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.160
<v Speaker 4>don't know how many of those ten are one or

0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.400
<v Speaker 4>the other. But outside of that, he's never been a

0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:40.200
<v Speaker 4>first team All Pro. And if you look at his

0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:46.880
<v Speaker 4>body of work, if he's not as appreciated as he

0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:52.320
<v Speaker 4>needs to be going into retirement or possibly ending up

0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.520
<v Speaker 4>being a career backup for the rest of his time

0:10:55.679 --> 0:11:00.440
<v Speaker 4>as an NFL player, is he at risk of not

0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.440
<v Speaker 4>being a Hall of Famer. And I wonder if that

0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.360
<v Speaker 4>is what's circulating in his mind within this five year

0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.760
<v Speaker 4>period of time. I'm in a great market. It's a

0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.680
<v Speaker 4>really good situation to be in. I know New York

0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:19.040
<v Speaker 4>has struggled, but I'm kind of high on this Giants

0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.360
<v Speaker 4>team this year. I think they're going to surprise some people.

0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.000
<v Speaker 4>And if he can be the catalyst at the quarterback's

0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:30.200
<v Speaker 4>position in that that type of a season doing it

0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:35.400
<v Speaker 4>in New York, is one year enough depending on what

0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.640
<v Speaker 4>type of success they have to solidify his career, or

0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.719
<v Speaker 4>does it take one. I think at this point I

0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.559
<v Speaker 4>throw it out at you, guys, and you could take

0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.360
<v Speaker 4>it however, you know where you want to take it.

0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.320
<v Speaker 4>But I think he still needs more more than one

0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:54.120
<v Speaker 4>good season to solidify being at least a first ballot

0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.760
<v Speaker 4>Hall of Famer let alone, possibly could miss being a

0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:01.920
<v Speaker 4>Hall of Famer if he doesn't have critical years in

0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.559
<v Speaker 4>these last few years that he has in the league

0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.200
<v Speaker 4>as a starter.

0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.160
<v Speaker 3>Which is kind of crazy considering if you were to say,

0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.000
<v Speaker 3>second to last year in Seattle, all right, guys in

0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.280
<v Speaker 3>the NFL, that are you think are going to be

0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Hall of Famers? He would have been one that I

0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.560
<v Speaker 3>would have thought had been a Hall of Famer. But

0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.920
<v Speaker 3>the post Seattle era has been so up and down

0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.760
<v Speaker 3>and played out so poorly publicly that I do wonder

0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.680
<v Speaker 3>if now the perception of him has changed from people

0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.599
<v Speaker 3>around the league because it feels I mean even J C.

0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Trettor was you know, throwing him under the bus, you

0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.880
<v Speaker 3>know for not you know, not getting the contract that

0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:37.719
<v Speaker 3>he was looking.

0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:37.920
<v Speaker 2>For and all that.

0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.680
<v Speaker 3>It just feels like there's a well, when the discussion

0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.320
<v Speaker 3>happens around Russell Wilson, it's never positive anymore. And that

0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.680
<v Speaker 3>was never the case in Seattle until the end.

0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:47.360
<v Speaker 4>Until the end.

0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I felt like last year got positive. I mean,

0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.400
<v Speaker 5>he came in and gave Pittsburgh a spark on offense.

0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.839
<v Speaker 5>I know the season didn't end the way they wanted

0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.000
<v Speaker 5>it to, and he probably wasn't playing his best towards

0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.880
<v Speaker 5>the end, but you know, you factor in the picking,

0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.079
<v Speaker 5>you know, sometimes deciding he wants to be out there.

0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:05.439
<v Speaker 6>Maybe he doesn't. I don't know.

0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean there was a compilation I saw in social

0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.239
<v Speaker 5>media last season when I was like I could only imagine,

0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.280
<v Speaker 5>like I was fortunate enough to play with so many

0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.679
<v Speaker 5>receivers that you know, you knew when they were upset,

0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.080
<v Speaker 5>you knew when they wanted the ball, and maybe they

0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.560
<v Speaker 5>weren't getting the ball either because the defense was taking

0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.560
<v Speaker 5>them away or they weren't the number one read on

0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.920
<v Speaker 5>a certain progression. You know, there were sometimes guys where

0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.760
<v Speaker 5>they're just having bad days or they get too emotional

0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.440
<v Speaker 5>about it, and you would see that from time to time,

0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.360
<v Speaker 5>but I never had anyone who I felt like just

0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.440
<v Speaker 5>wasn't going to participate in the play. I mean there's

0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.760
<v Speaker 5>times where I felt like that watching him last year,

0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.560
<v Speaker 5>So that played a role as well.

0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:44.280
<v Speaker 6>I just.

0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.559
<v Speaker 5>I had a former head coach tell me one time,

0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.920
<v Speaker 5>when you start moving around to teams, He's like, it's

0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:53.800
<v Speaker 5>really really hard to gain traction again.

0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.360
<v Speaker 6>And he told me this at this point when.

0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.600
<v Speaker 5>I was a backup, and you know, really they were

0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:00.560
<v Speaker 5>offering me an opportunity to come back as a backup,

0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:02.760
<v Speaker 5>and I just I wanted to take a chance to

0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.880
<v Speaker 5>go see if I can compete to start, or be

0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.000
<v Speaker 5>in a situation where if I was a backup, I'd

0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.720
<v Speaker 5>have a better chance of playing. Like to me, I

0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.880
<v Speaker 5>hated holding a clipboard, I hated sitting in meeting rooms

0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.320
<v Speaker 5>and baskey being an insurance agent, Like that's what you

0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.440
<v Speaker 5>are as a backup quarterback. You're the insurance policy where

0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.480
<v Speaker 5>you go in and all of a sudden you've got

0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.080
<v Speaker 5>to feel in the void like a starter, not getting

0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.280
<v Speaker 5>the preparation, not getting the practice as far as the

0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:27.960
<v Speaker 5>same as a starter.

0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:28.960
<v Speaker 6>But that's the expectation.

0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.600
<v Speaker 5>And I was always like, MANI stinks like I always

0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.120
<v Speaker 5>needed reps. You know, I was slow to learn how

0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:36.720
<v Speaker 5>to read when I was young. I was I was

0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.360
<v Speaker 5>always kind of slower to develop in that regard. So

0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.320
<v Speaker 5>I was always someone who wanted to have, you know, more,

0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.760
<v Speaker 5>more of an opportunity to play and to actually learn

0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.840
<v Speaker 5>from experience. And I think that's the tough part for

0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.880
<v Speaker 5>Russell Wilson, is you get to this point where you

0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:51.840
<v Speaker 5>can't find traction.

0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:53.080
<v Speaker 4>How long did it take?

0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:55.600
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how long it took.

0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.440
<v Speaker 5>I'd have to go back and talk to my mom,

0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.680
<v Speaker 5>but I just remember, you know, her needing to take

0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.360
<v Speaker 5>extra time, meaning need to take a little extra time

0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:02.160
<v Speaker 5>in school as well.

0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.680
<v Speaker 4>But again I digress. Ye, I'm sorry.

0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.000
<v Speaker 5>I think one of the things is when you get

0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.840
<v Speaker 5>to a point like you're saying, Jonas, what four teams

0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:18.760
<v Speaker 5>in five years? It gets hard to find traction because

0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.680
<v Speaker 5>everyone that's there around you hasn't experienced the success you

0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:27.400
<v Speaker 5>had in Seattle. They don't know you that credibility. No, no,

0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, think about think about this, like think about

0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.120
<v Speaker 5>how long US three now have worked together. We were

0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.440
<v Speaker 5>together for years now, so we know when we see

0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:36.920
<v Speaker 5>each other at Super Bowl whatever, we like, we know

0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.040
<v Speaker 5>what to expect. We know, like even if hey, one

0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.000
<v Speaker 5>of us goes out with Lee, you know, Lee's a

0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.080
<v Speaker 5>wild time. Like we know we're still we know we're

0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.440
<v Speaker 5>US three with Lee. We know US three is still

0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.600
<v Speaker 5>going to show up and perform. Now we don't know

0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.280
<v Speaker 5>if Lee will be there, but we know US three

0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.880
<v Speaker 5>will show up and perform. But like that's not the case. Now,

0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.480
<v Speaker 5>he's got to build that back up. You know, he's

0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.200
<v Speaker 5>only one Chili Cheese National Chili Cheese Dog. Hot Dog

0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.200
<v Speaker 5>did away from you know, gassing up. Christopher Fetter's not

0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:05.600
<v Speaker 5>gonna be able to produce this show anymore.

0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.520
<v Speaker 4>That man could have shown up with chip teeth, He

0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.600
<v Speaker 4>could have been hit ran over by a mac truck.

0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there were several different scenarios that could have

0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.080
<v Speaker 4>played out where I mean he didn't want to show

0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.280
<v Speaker 4>up to one event because all of the cuts and

0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.000
<v Speaker 4>scrapes on it on his face. I mean, it's just

0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.600
<v Speaker 4>it's bad Lee. It's a it's a it's a very

0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.040
<v Speaker 4>stressful time to wonder if we're going to roll with

0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:36.240
<v Speaker 4>Lee when it's a week long trip. That's that's It's

0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.360
<v Speaker 4>a great it's a great example, and in comparison, it's

0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.400
<v Speaker 4>a great compre And.

0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Then I step up as the d H in the

0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:46.960
<v Speaker 2>on Friday when you guys were hurting.

0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.000
<v Speaker 4>No, we weren't hurting. We we were we I mean,

0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.240
<v Speaker 4>we were tired. It was the end of the week.

0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.280
<v Speaker 6>You only didn't go out because you face planted. That's

0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:57.120
<v Speaker 6>why you didn't go out.

0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.080
<v Speaker 4>Still showed up.

0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.240
<v Speaker 5>The next day. Yeah, but I'm saying you didn't go

0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.120
<v Speaker 5>out that night like we did. Your nose, that's why

0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:05.640
<v Speaker 5>we were hurting so bad on Friday.

0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.600
<v Speaker 6>You were on I R. You're in your hotel.

0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.639
<v Speaker 4>Definitely, But we're a team, baby.

0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:12.119
<v Speaker 6>Basketball.

0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I was trying.

0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.199
<v Speaker 3>I was feeding him drinks Thursday night before and he

0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.720
<v Speaker 3>was not saying shock, he was not saying.

0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying you were bold enough to actually go

0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:27.080
<v Speaker 4>on the journey into you know, downtown, into to uh

0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.119
<v Speaker 4>what's the street called Bourbon Street. Yeah, you guys, I

0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.720
<v Speaker 4>just can't believe that you would do it, like, of

0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:36.040
<v Speaker 4>all places to go with Lee where you knew it

0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.240
<v Speaker 4>was the wrong place where he would be Bourbon Street

0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:40.400
<v Speaker 4>would be tops on.

0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:40.920
<v Speaker 8>That he was.

0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:42.920
<v Speaker 3>He had like a three hour head start. I said, yeah,

0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.199
<v Speaker 3>I'll go check it out. And the best part is

0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.760
<v Speaker 3>I called Brady and because you were like you just

0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.439
<v Speaker 3>like staying in the hotel, And I called Brady.

0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:52.320
<v Speaker 6>He's like, all, what do you think?

0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:53.080
<v Speaker 2>And do you want to get dinner?

0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.280
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I kind of want to check out

0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:59.199
<v Speaker 3>Bourbon Street and Brady's like, yeah, I'm definitely not doing that, Like, okay, oh,

0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.240
<v Speaker 3>I've never been, so I want to go check it out.

0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:01.880
<v Speaker 2>And I get there.

0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:06.520
<v Speaker 5>By the way, in my defense, this is also after

0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:07.280
<v Speaker 5>a dude got killed.

0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm pretty sure he got drugged and killed.

0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.560
<v Speaker 5>Not saying that situation would play out for me, but

0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.159
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's not the safest place and it's like,

0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, we had one more night here, you know,

0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.320
<v Speaker 5>why put that at risk?

0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Right? Yeah, we were safe in the hotel.

0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.560
<v Speaker 6>Why would we leave a good time with Avar to

0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:25.440
<v Speaker 6>go find a good time?

0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I mean we have a good time, we make

0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.960
<v Speaker 4>the party. But Lee apparently he has to have more

0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.320
<v Speaker 4>he has and so I went and found that hand

0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:38.200
<v Speaker 4>grenade that I was on assignment. I was on assignment.

0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.399
<v Speaker 5>We did see our entire Fox crew. To Jonas, you

0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.520
<v Speaker 5>were like leaving at the worst possible time for your

0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:44.480
<v Speaker 5>professional career.

0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was some dead man walking and that now

0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:55.080
<v Speaker 4>that you look back on it.

0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.120
<v Speaker 2>To so so it's.

0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:02.680
<v Speaker 4>A great point.

0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.760
<v Speaker 3>I how you think about it. Well, listen to lead

0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.480
<v Speaker 3>the lap Is. You know, he's like our trust the

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.679
<v Speaker 3>old ride. And if you're still driving your trust the

0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.199
<v Speaker 3>old ride, keep it looking sharp with Maco from DNSE

0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.840
<v Speaker 3>to faded Paint, We've got you covered. Get a free

0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:20.280
<v Speaker 3>estmate today. Uh oh, better get Maco. You say, rusty

0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:24.359
<v Speaker 3>ass rat trust the old Oh don't you say it?

0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.720
<v Speaker 3>Rusty ass whole other world. I mean that would have

0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.359
<v Speaker 3>been more fitting. Coming up next here though, on the

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio with LeVar Arrington,

0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox filling in, we are going to

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.639
<v Speaker 3>find out the very latest. Could we be on the

0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.080
<v Speaker 3>verge of a blockbuster trade in the NFL. We've got

0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.680
<v Speaker 3>it for you right here on FSR.

0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.399
<v Speaker 1>the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.639
<v Speaker 1>dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:53.440
<v Speaker 1>listen live.

0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's me Rock Parker.

0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:00.760
<v Speaker 9>Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Park for

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.440
<v Speaker 9>twenty two minutes of pipe in hot baseball talk featuring

0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 9>the biggest names of newsmakers in the sport.

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Whether you believe in analytics or the I.

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:13.600
<v Speaker 9>Test, We've got all the bases covered. New episodes drop

0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.240
<v Speaker 9>every Thursday, So do your sofa favor and listen to

0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:21.440
<v Speaker 9>Inside the Parker with Rob Parker on the iHeartRadio app

0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 9>or wherever you get your podcast.

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 3>It is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.320
<v Speaker 3>LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Dan and the guys coming up here and we'll call

0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.679
<v Speaker 3>it about twenty minutes from now. We are going to

0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.480
<v Speaker 3>have an interesting move made in the NFL in the

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Speaker 3>last twenty four hours and what it means moving forward.

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.960
<v Speaker 3>That'll be yours here on FSR. But right now we

0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.440
<v Speaker 3>turn it over to the man himself, senior NFL reporter,

0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 3>lead content strategists at the MMQB. You see him on Amazon,

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.119
<v Speaker 3>NFL on Primes coverage during the year, and you can

0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 3>get him on ex at Albert Breer AB what's happening

0:20:59.040 --> 0:20:59.959
<v Speaker 3>Good Thursday morning too.

0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, what's up, guys? I can actually see you. I

0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 8>know it's been get that all worked out like where

0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 8>we get actually passed it through, right, but we're working

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 8>towards it sounds like.

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 6>This is unfortunate though, Albert.

0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 5>Now we don't get your uh, your wife, you don't

0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.720
<v Speaker 5>get your kids ask you you're getting to the van

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:18.600
<v Speaker 5>to head up for a hockey tournament.

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.440
<v Speaker 8>Though, that's right, not in the on the front porch

0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 8>where like I'm at risk for like the blue stooth

0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:25.399
<v Speaker 8>kicking off the tahoe yeah.

0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, or the or the dog in the background or

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:29.439
<v Speaker 5>any of the other many things that have tried to

0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:31.159
<v Speaker 5>interrupt our interview with you.

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.240
<v Speaker 8>We have we have two dogs here now, so like

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.000
<v Speaker 8>there's even more risk because it's just kind of puppy

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.119
<v Speaker 8>and he's also an Aussie. Anybody who's had one of

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.360
<v Speaker 8>those notes out loud, they are so uh so yeah,

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 8>Archie might be making uh making a debut of here's

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 8>here in the next few weeks.

0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 6>Why did you get Why did you get an Aussie?

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 8>Because that's our first time get if we have an

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.639
<v Speaker 8>ostie alreadyn getting another one because my wife likes to breathe.

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:57.960
<v Speaker 8>It's easy answer and I'm not gonna win.

0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:01.520
<v Speaker 4>The argument is the after Archie Griffith. Was that the compromise?

0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:01.919
<v Speaker 8>That's right?

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there you go, figure figure that's what it was.

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 8>How able everybody's gonna think it's after Archie Manning or

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.439
<v Speaker 8>if we start calling him Art to be after arch Manning.

0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:20.840
<v Speaker 8>So anyway, that's the real life. Yeah, I will say

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.359
<v Speaker 8>this though, we went from like this wasn't on my

0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.000
<v Speaker 8>radar two weeks ago. So now we have a puppy

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.359
<v Speaker 8>living here, so it shows you how much control I

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:29.439
<v Speaker 8>have over my own house.

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Are you surprised Albert and obviously covering the team? Uh,

0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 3>in covering the team and being around the situation for

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.919
<v Speaker 3>as long as you were up in the New England area.

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Are you surprised to see Belichick pushback the way he

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:49.000
<v Speaker 3>did on ESPN when Robert Kraft talked about the big

0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:50.720
<v Speaker 3>risk he took in hiring him.

0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:51.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 8>The crazy thing about it is like the Craft said

0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.760
<v Speaker 8>this a million times. There's you could if you google

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.719
<v Speaker 8>the keywords in there, I'm sure you could find fifty

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.920
<v Speaker 8>times that Robert Craft has said that. And clearly it's

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 8>something that Bill's got a problem with. Like wait a minute,

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 8>Like you were the one that took the risk, like

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.239
<v Speaker 8>I came into a situation that was broken and had

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 8>to rebuild it, right, like, so clearly he had a

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 8>problem with it. And I find it, like I'm not

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 8>source guessing here or whatever, but I find it hard

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.639
<v Speaker 8>to believe that Don van Natta was listening to like

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.400
<v Speaker 8>the Dudes on Dudes podcasts and thought to call Bill.

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 8>So my guess is that Bill was the one that

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:34.400
<v Speaker 8>prompted that conversation, which means that Bill felt strongly enough

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 8>to reach out to a reporter on it. And Don

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 8>van Natta, of course, is the reporter who's done some

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 8>of the work on some of the discord and the

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 8>Patriots organization over the last twenty years, and so picking

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 8>that specific reporter to talk to I think has context too.

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 8>So you know, my main takeaway is Bill's got a

0:23:56.280 --> 0:24:00.879
<v Speaker 8>hair across ass about Robert vice versa. Is this becoming

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:01.679
<v Speaker 8>Jimmy Jerry?

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 4>Guys? It has those type types of characteristics. Oh that's

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:10.400
<v Speaker 4>a hot Yeah, it's sort.

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:15.119
<v Speaker 8>Of like it doesn't it? Well, did you accomplished so

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 8>much together and you can't leave ball enough alone? You

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 8>know what I mean? Like, And it's interesting too, because

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 8>the third figure in all of this is Tom Brady.

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 8>And you know what I think is really fascinating about

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 8>that if you look at how these things come about, Well,

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 8>Bill posts Tom, you know, makes the playoffs of one

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 8>and the team circle with the drain. Robert pat posts

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 8>Tom is with Bill for that, then hires girod Mao,

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 8>fires him after a year and has to fall in

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 8>the sort of thing he was wrong about a bunch

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 8>of things. And so now those two are going at it,

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 8>and you got Tom sitting back, and you know why

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 8>he doesn't have to say a thing is because he

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.360
<v Speaker 8>went to Tampa, made the playoffs four years or three

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 8>years in a row, and got a rent. So you know,

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 8>it's just interesting how kind of the post stretch to

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 8>the to the to the dynasty is to one guy

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 8>who had a ton of success right after is the

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 8>one who could just kind of sit back and let

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 8>the other two sight.

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 6>So so this is why.

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.479
<v Speaker 5>And we talked about this a little bit earlier, and

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 5>I said that I don't have a problem with Robert

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 5>Craft saying it took a risk to hire Bill Belichick.

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 5>But if someone asks you, what's your biggest risk, I

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 5>don't know that Bill Belichick was at the top of

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 5>the list, he had close to a five hundred record

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 5>as far as being adage. Prior to that, he was

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 5>already hired by another team. So clearly they were okay

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.199
<v Speaker 5>with that five hundred record, as was Robert Kraft. And

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 5>yes they had to give up a first round pick,

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 5>but it's it's not as if Robert Craft was necessarily

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 5>great before that point in time as an owner in

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 5>drafting first round pick. So it leads me to say,

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 5>in your mind, was was this the biggest risk really

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 5>Robert Craft took? I mean, Jonas brought up ages of

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 5>orchid orchids, sports of AGAs.

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 3>Geez, guys, guys trying to blow some steam off for

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 3>God's sake.

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, I don't know.

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 8>Let's move that one to the side for a minute.

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, ab answer the question, abe, question aside, honestly, honestly.

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 6>Say flip over, is that what you said?

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 8>My gosh, don't get me in trouble here, Like I

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 8>don't need to. I don't taking right now. Here's what

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 8>I like, Like I would say the bigger risks, like

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 8>I think the decision to do what he did with

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 8>Bill Parcells the very beginning, as much success as they

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 8>were having, like taking power away from Bill Parcells after

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 8>Bill Parcells had and I I mean I was a

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 8>kid then growing up in this region, and Bill Parcells

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 8>was like the messiah, like no one that franchise was

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 8>a laughing stuck and Bill Parcells the one who's got it,

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 8>who dragged it out of the ditch and gave it credibility.

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 8>So I think taking power away from Bill Parcell's and

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 8>eventually driving them away was probably the biggest risk that

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 8>Robert Kraft ever took at the time when he hired Belichick.

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 8>I mean, he's sort of in this position where he

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 8>like his like his reputation wasn't in a great spot,

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 8>so he didn't have as much to lose like when

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 8>he did that with Parcels. He had a lot to lose.

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 8>When he made the decision to go with Bill over

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 8>Brady right in twenty twenty and the years leading up

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 8>to that, that was a massive risks. He had ton

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 8>to lose. So I tend to think, like when you're

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 8>assessing risks, a lot of like a lot of what

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 8>risk is is how much do you have to lose?

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 8>And I think in nineteen ninety six and in two

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 8>thy and twenty Robert katsaid way more to losing those

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 8>decisions that he made versus you know where he was

0:27:57.960 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 8>in the year two thousands.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 4>Listen, we're having the conversation as it applies to Robert

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 4>Kraft and ultimately the comparisons or or the back and

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 4>floor between him and Belichick. How much does this put

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 4>a almost a target on on Mike Rabel coming in.

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 4>Mike was a part of these teams as well. And

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 4>maybe that's something that maybe Robert Kraft isn't thinking about,

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 4>is by doing these these having these conversations, I mean,

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 4>you're putting seemingly a whole lot of pressure on Mike

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 4>Rabel to have to do something with this team where

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 4>they're at right now.

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's a weird spot to be in for sure.

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 8>Like I don't know, I mean, Mike would probably want

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 8>to smack me in the back of the head. I

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 8>feel like if you heard me say that, it's almost

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 8>like a kid with his divorced parents who are in court,

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 8>you know what I mean. It's just because I mean,

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 8>Mike was a player here, you know, and you can't

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 8>take that context out of it. So like he's one

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 8>of these guys like an Edelman who had that interview

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 8>with Kraft and like so many guys that went through

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 8>the place that you know, like you're going to be

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 8>asked about it, you know what I mean, Like and

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 8>at some point like it's going to come up, and

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 8>it's a topic that hovers over things. That said, I

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 8>think if anybody equipped to deal with it and has

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 8>the right kind of approach towards these things and be

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 8>Mike Rabel, because I just don't think I think Brabel

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 8>is as the type of guy who can say I

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 8>don't give a damn about that, that's not my problem

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 8>and get away with it. You know, Like there are

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 8>a lot of people who say that you wouldn't believe them,

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 8>like I think Mike can make that believable. So like,

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 8>I think in one sense, there's the former player Mice

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 8>right like, who like so many of these guys, it's

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 8>like two people that were so central to what was

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 8>going on when you were having your greatest professional success

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 8>are fighting and it's weird to be asked questions about

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 8>those two people while they're fighting. So that's the former

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 8>player Mike. But I think Mike right now would be

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 8>more focused on being the coach and you know, having

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 8>that thing go focus, saying like that's not our problem

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 8>to his team, like that's something I think that he's

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 8>an equal position to sell.

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 3>two pros and a cup of Joe filling in for

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Dan Patrick and the guys. Is there the potential we

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 3>see any sort of crazy blockbuster trade take place with

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 3>these guys looking for extensions and not able to get

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 3>them done, whether it be Hendrickson, McLaurin, TJ.

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Watt, et cetera.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 8>I just think it's too many in the case is

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 8>there's like too much much interest in getting something done.

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 8>Like with what the reason you the reason you acquire

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 8>Aaron Rodgers in the first place is to serve TJ. Watt, right,

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 8>Like it's to serve the core that you had in play.

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 8>And so like what you're doing getting Aaron Rodgers and

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 8>leading into the guys that we're already there and saying, okay,

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 8>we only have one or two swing fluff with this

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 8>crew with your TJ. Watts If you're Cam Hayward, so

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 8>so like, how would it make sense to go out

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 8>and get Aaron Rodgers and get DK Metcalf and get

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 8>Jalen Ramsey and get Darius play and then move off

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 8>the best player from the core that you're trying to serve.

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 8>And if your t GA want, is there a situation

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 8>that you could go to that would be better than

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 8>the one that you're already in, or would you look

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 8>at it and say, this is what I've been waiting

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 8>for since Ben Roethlisberger retired. It's having an answer like this.

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 8>At the quarterback position. With McLaurin, it's like, I know

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 8>Terry values being like a one team guy and being

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 8>a guy who wrote out gig Rudin, Ron Rivera, the

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 8>Salo team, the nickname change, all that different stuff, and

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 8>being kind of a belt weather for the entire franchise.

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 8>I know he really values that. And for dan Quinn,

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 8>like Harry represents everything they're looking for. So I'd say

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 8>like in most of these situations, you're looking at it

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 8>like there's too much usual interest in getting something done.

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 8>There's a lot of cage rattling going on now, but

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 8>when the deadlines come, you think they're going to get

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 8>something done. So Hendrickson thing is the one that I

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 8>look at and it's a little less predictable because that

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 8>one's played out over multiple off seasons, and that one

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 8>there are just some moving parts as to how you

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 8>pay pass rushers, and then the structure of the deal.

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 8>Does he do a deal like the structure like the

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 8>one Burrow and Chase it? Does he do a deal

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.959
<v Speaker 8>that structured like the one that Higgins did. There are

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 8>a lot of moving parts that the Henderson one and

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 8>a lot of history there that would say there's no

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 8>way he's taking any sort of hometown discount, and so

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 8>where is the comper might come? That would be the.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 5>Question, Albert, I want to ask you about these second

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 5>round draft picks. Two have signed fully guaranteed deals. There

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 5>were thirty unsigned. However, it looks like Alfred Collins has

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 5>to side with the forty nine ers to sign a

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 5>deal that is not fully guaranteed only about eighty percent,

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 5>give or take.

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 6>A couple of questions. We don't have a ton of

0:32:59.240 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 6>time left.

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 5>Why now, Why has either the NFLPA or the agents

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 5>who have been involved pushed for this to get these

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 5>contracts fully guaranteed? And I guess furthermore, when you're looking

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 5>at the Alfred Collins deal, I would assume you think

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 5>the rest are probably gonna fall suit. There's not gonna

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 5>be a lot of guys getting fully guaranteed deals, or

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 5>is there a mark in the draft where they're staying, like, hey,

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 5>top fifty or you know those, all those guys will

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 5>be fully guaranteed.

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 6>But then after that probably not.

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 8>I don't think. I don't have an infirm of me.

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 8>I think Brady did, like he was. I think forty

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 8>third overall, is that right? Yeah? Yeah, correct, yeah, forty

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 8>three Okay. So the way this happened, so the Texans

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 8>really wanted to get like a certain structure with their

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 8>contracts and were and wanted to get it done early

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 8>with Jayden Higgins. So they agreed to do the fully

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 8>guaranteed deal and then Higgins Higgins agrees to the Texans structure,

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 8>and so they're able to get that done early taking

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 8>care of fully guaranteed. Then the next day, the very

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 8>next day, this is two months ago, Carson Swussinger, who

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 8>is a thirty third pick, kickers with thirty four. He

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 8>does the deal, so now he's got a fully guaranteed deal.

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 8>So you have the top two guys having a fully

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 8>guaranteed deal. The thirty fifth pick is Nick Emon Worri

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 8>the South Carolina staty who went to Seattle and like

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 8>he was widely projected by a lot of people to

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 8>be at least a fringe first round pick. So he's

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 8>got his head. Now here's people having his head. Well,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 8>we need to get a full guaranteed deal. Then the

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 8>thirty six pick is punched on Judkins, who obviously is

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 8>going through the offfield stuff now, but even before that,

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 8>it was like, well, Nick, you just gave Carson Swssinger

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 8>three picks before me a fully guaranteed deal, so I

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 8>need to get one. So now, if you're looking at

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 8>this and you think at thirty five to thirty six,

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 8>are pushing for it. If you're the agent for the

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 8>thirty seventh picks, the thirty eight picks, the thirty nine pick,

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 8>you're not going to do anything until that gets done.

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 8>Then you have the fortieth pick, which is a quarterback. Right,

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 8>the quarterbacks have always done deals a little bit differently.

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 8>So the Shocks in New Orleans says he get a

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 8>bully guaranteed deal there at forty, because if he doesn't

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 8>bully guarantee deal at forty and you're thirty nine, thirty eight,

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 8>thirty seven, it's gonna make you look bad as an

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 8>agent as a player if you don't get one. So

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 8>this thing has been complicated, and I think it's going

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 8>to sort of tinge on what happens with Eamon Wori,

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 8>you know, then potentially what happens with Juckins. We'll see

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 8>what happens with the Arizona Guard that when you know

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 8>Jonas Abaya who went thirty seventh overall, Trevan Henderson thirty eight.

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 8>Like I it's just I think it's going to have

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 8>to almost have it would almost have to be in order,

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 8>like there has to be a Domino exect or the

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.399
<v Speaker 8>quarterback gets done earlier. It's it's complicated. I do think

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 8>Collins deal can help with players behind him, right, so

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 8>after forty three, maybe that helps move the needle on

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 8>guys that were drafted behind Alfred Collins, But as far

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 8>as the guys that were drafted in front of them,

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 8>I still say think you're kind of at that sale

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 8>name where you're waiting for either Seattle and even Worri

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 8>or New Orleans and Tyler Stock to get something done.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.320
<v Speaker 3>He is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 3>at the MMQB. You see his work on Amazon's NFL

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 3>on prime coverage. You can get him on x at

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Albert Breer AB. We appreciate it. Good luck with the

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 3>puppy and we'll talk next week.

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 8>All right, Thank Bett.

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 3>There, he is, the great Albert Breer with us here

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 3>on Fox Sports Radio. It is the Dan Patrick Show

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.439
<v Speaker 3>here on FSR. Two Pros and a cup of Joe

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 3>filling in for Dan and the guys, and up next,

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 3>an interesting situation to monitor in the NFL. We've got

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 3>it for you right here on FSR.

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio w APP.

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Two pros and a cup of Joe in for the

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Dan Patrick Show Here on Fox Sports Radio. It's LeVar Arrington,

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for the guys. Coming off

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.439
<v Speaker 3>top of next hour, a little over ten minutes from now,

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 3>we are going to tell you about some conflicting reports

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 3>on a hot time in the NFL.

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 2>That'll be yours here on Fox Sports Radio.

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 3>I want to remind you that you can stream this

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 3>show and all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live.

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Twenty four to seven In the new and improved iHeart

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Radio app, just search Fox Sports Radio and the app

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 3>to streams live. One of the newest features in the

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 3>app is that you can select Fox Sports Radio is

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 3>one of your presets, just like the presets on a

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 3>radio dial. So be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 3>and the iHeartRadio app and it will always pop up

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 3>at the top of your screen. So we were talking

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 3>with Albert about the second round picks, and we were

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 3>talking about some of the other movement potentially in the NFL.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 3>What is the best guess you guys have as to

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.439
<v Speaker 3>how this whole Shamar Stewart fiasco in Cincinnati plays out,

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Cause I can't figure out why they're in the place

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 3>they are, especially knowing that it's not like it's an

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 3>outrageous demand. He's asking for what was done previously by

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the organization with other draft picks taken in the first round.

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 2>How's this whole thing going to finish up?

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 5>He'll end up joining the team and playing I mean

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 5>deadlines do deals. We aren't at that point of the

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 5>summer yet where we're getting close to the start of

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 5>the season. You know, when there are sixteen games, there's

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.800
<v Speaker 5>a sense of urgency, right, you had four preseason games,

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 5>teams would feel a bit more of a sense of

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 5>urgency as you got into some of those preseason games.

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 5>Now they don't really value those quite as much, so

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 5>I think with an additional regular season game. He's a

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 5>rookie anyway, If there's not more progress made with Trey Hendrickson,

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe there's a little more sense of urgency

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 5>from the Bengals to concede and go back to the

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 5>language they used previously. But I think if Shamar Stewart

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 5>holds strong, which good for him and his agent for

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 5>doing so for the entirety of the offseason. Bengals fans

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.280
<v Speaker 5>may be upset with me saying that, but I always

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 5>look back at fans and say, you do the same

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 5>thing too, if you're in his shoes, and you're not

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 5>asking for anything different than guys who are already on

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 5>the team that have been drafted that same exact position.

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 5>So this is a Bengals change, and this is something

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 5>that they're trying to change moving forward, and they're trying

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 5>to take advantage of Schmoor Stewart and his agent to

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 5>do so, which, to be quite honest, is unfair. Now

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 5>I haven't looked through every new contract they've done this offseason.

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 5>Maybe they're trying to make this language more standard in

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 5>other capacities, but I would imagine that this seems a

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 5>bit unfair based on the president they have set in

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 5>prior years.

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 4>I think it's pretty simple. They get it done. Regardless

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 4>of what the language ends up being, they're going to

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 4>settle on something. Again, if you look at it from

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 4>the standpoint of if he sits out, he's not going

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 4>to make more money coming back and petitioning to try

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 4>to be able to play another season in college. If

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 4>he sits out and doesn't participate, he's not going to

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 4>make more money. And while he won't get fined, I

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 4>can't see how he would get fined because he's not

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 4>an employee officially to the Cincinnati Bengals. He would just

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 4>be basically like almost in no man's leg no man's land,

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 4>so to speak, in and what his situation is. So

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 4>then he's not making any money that way. So I

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 4>just I think the deal gets done, and I think

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 4>it's in the best interest of his representation to make

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 4>sure he gets him the best deal that he can

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 4>possibly get him while making sure he gets him into

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 4>training camp and get him active on the team.

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine where this organization would be at if

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 3>they didn't have Joe Burrow, Like just the outlook of

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 3>the organization, not just from a win standpoint, But you know,

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 3>I think people forget how bad they were before he

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 3>got there.

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 4>I think Zach.

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Taylor had won six games in a couple of years,

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 3>and they've got all these contract disputes. But hey, Cincinnati, baby,

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 3>that's the way they operate. Nickel and dime all the way.

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Are they the dollar tree of the NFL? Would you

0:40:57.760 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 2>say fair enough?

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:01.720
<v Speaker 6>Dollar tree of dollar general?

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 4>Dang? I mean both of them bad.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 6>It's bad. They're they're cheaper lee.

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 2>What do you prefer?

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 6>Maybe not bad?

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean they're all a dollar dollar tree.