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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, Welcome in to Cleveland Brown's Daily. Barely bau

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Speaker 2: the Great Z. On a very big day here in Berea.

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Speaker 2: There is a new head coach of your Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: He is a man that mister Z and I are

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Speaker 2: quite familiar with. He is Todd Monkin. He will be

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Speaker 2: the nineteenth head coach in franchise history. This will be

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Speaker 2: his first shot as being an NFL head coach. He's

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Speaker 2: been in the league a long time. We talked about

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Speaker 2: Todd quite a bit yesterday on the show. He's one

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Speaker 2: of the brighter offensive minds you're ever going to be around,

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Speaker 2: A very direct communicator, a big guy in terms of accountability.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of juice to him. I know as

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Speaker 2: a fan base you heard from him in the Offensive

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Speaker 2: Coordinator press conferences in twenty and nineteen, but as Nathan

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Speaker 2: I got to know him quite a bit in twenty

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Speaker 3: There's a lot to like about Todd.

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Speaker 2: I know you still every time we played the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: you'd go seek him out. Your reaction, buddy to Todd

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Speaker 2: bunkan new Brown's head coach.

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Speaker 4: Well, certainly, I'm happy for Todd, who I think has

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Speaker 4: always wanted this opportunity to be a head coach in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. It only coached as a head coach at

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Speaker 4: the collegiate ranks, where he took a winless Southern Mississippi

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Speaker 4: team and in three years got them in a Bowl,

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Speaker 4: which was a pretty heavy lift, to be honest. He

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Speaker 4: been the OC for the Baltimore Ravens, been the OC

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Speaker 4: for the Cleveland Browns. But with the Ravens obviously, he

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Speaker 4: took you know, Lamar Jackson to his two best seasons

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Speaker 4: earned him an MVP. He is going to be He

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Speaker 4: is direct, He is sarcastic he is. I think he

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Speaker 4: will demand accountability. I think he will be very forceful

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Speaker 4: in what his demands are and his expectations are, and

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Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be afraid to, you know, raise

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Speaker 4: issues with people who are not meeting that standard. But

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Speaker 4: this is listen. Our big issue was on the offensive

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Speaker 4: side of the football, and he is very, very good

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Speaker 4: at that and has shown the ability even when they

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Speaker 4: games last year had him lighting things up. He's good

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Speaker 4: for the running game and we've got obviously with Quinn

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Speaker 4: been very good for quarterbacks, tight ends, multiple on offense,

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Speaker 4: and just regard as one of the better play callers

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. He's kind of been a guy that

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Speaker 4: has always been the bride'smaid, never a bride. He's been

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Speaker 4: always been like, oh, he came in second, came in second. Well,

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Speaker 4: now he's coming first and he's gotten out opportunity. And

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Speaker 4: I think the Browns are hoping and I think if

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Speaker 4: you're looking for a good scenario outcome with a little

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Speaker 4: all of it. You know, you're looking at Bruce Arians

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Speaker 4: you know, quite good at it. He was the interim

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Speaker 4: to Shi his sixtieth birthday, So excellent offensive mind, good

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Speaker 4: with quarterbacks, good with developing quarterbacks. And I think that's

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Speaker 4: the biggest thing that we've needed. And I think his

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Speaker 4: experience thirty seven years as a coach. We talked about

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Speaker 4: and I think it's that experience that gives him an edge,

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Speaker 4: a very good relationship. You know, we talked for every

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Speaker 4: him out of here, get him out of here. Well

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Speaker 4: well maybe it worked out because now he will be

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Speaker 4: our head coach for the Cleveland Browns. So happy for him.

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Speaker 4: Excited to get to talk to him when he when

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Speaker 2: We have your statement here from mister and missus Haslam quote.

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Speaker 2: We are very excited to name. Todd Monkin is the

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Speaker 2: next head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Todd is highly intelligent.

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Speaker 2: His experienced, innovative offensive mindset has been at the forefront

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Speaker 2: collegiate level over the last twenty years. He is an

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Speaker 2: as a strong communicator who values trust with his players,

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Speaker 2: but also accountability and preparation. In our committee's exhaustive reference

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Speaker 2: work on Todd, his commitment to player development was evident.

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Speaker 2: His tough and straightforward coaching is respected by the players

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Speaker 2: and the coaches he's worked with, putting our team in

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Speaker 2: a position to succeed while developing our players to maximize

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Speaker 2: their talent. We welcome Todd, Terry, and the rest of

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Speaker 2: the Monkin family back to the Browns to look forward

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Speaker 2: to him establishing the winning culture that will lead our

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Speaker 3: Our fans so deserve So yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at the Ravens offense and obviously, look

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of talent there. Lamar Jackson, Dereck Henry,

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Speaker 4: would say, Okay, obviously we don't have Lamar Jackson, but

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Speaker 4: And this is about I think getting somebody who is

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Speaker 4: level as a play caller, but in our conference and

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Speaker 4: You go back to the season in twenty nineteen, that's

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Speaker 4: the last time the Browns had two thousand yard receivers

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Speaker 4: I think ran for over fourteen hundred yards. We were

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Speaker 4: be asked about. But now he is the head coach

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Speaker 4: and we'll see how he. You know, last the last

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Speaker 2: Smart right, And I think in terms of like if

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Speaker 2: All of the plays look similar one in the first

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Speaker 2: what's really cool about Todd is if you look at

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Speaker 2: He's not someone necessarily who is this is what we're

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Speaker 2: Obviously he has his thoughts on all of that. But

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Speaker 2: Thing, they're going to be physical and they're going to

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Speaker 2: he did it sets in Bed. It's a big time

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Speaker 2: think one other thing I know a lot sometime is

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Speaker 2: viewing that as a negative. I just view that as accountability.

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Speaker 2: It's rare in today's lot world that we take accountability

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Speaker 2: for how things went wrong. And that was Todd said this,

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Speaker 2: his comments on it. By now, it's been out for

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Speaker 2: when I think of this.

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Speaker 3: I see a grown man.

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Speaker 2: I see a guy who's been a professional coach in

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Speaker 3: I see a straight shooter. I see a guy who's

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Speaker 3: all about accountability. You guys.

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Speaker 2: As from a fan perspective, he is so quick witted,

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I think he's been waiting for this moment

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's really stranger to us as this, it is

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Speaker 4: the level it needed to be in the NFL. And

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Speaker 4: that's not all from a talent standpoint and from a

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Speaker 4: you want to lay the blame at for that doesn't

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Speaker 4: matter at this point. That's that ship sailed. But what

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Speaker 4: I think we will see is Monkin getting this offense going.

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Speaker 4: And I think that you will see an effort and

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Speaker 4: I weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, tackle weapons,

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Speaker 4: weapons weapons guard. Okay, on the offensive lines, well, but

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Speaker 4: you know, we got to get some guys, some dudes

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Speaker 4: at the wide receiver position. I just think you look

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Speaker 4: at the teams that are in the Super Bowl's not

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Speaker 4: like they have these monster offensive lines. They're playing well,

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Speaker 4: but it's not like it was huge investments. But I

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Speaker 4: can assure you that without Jackson Smith and Jiggins, the

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Speaker 4: LCS are not in the super Bowl. No no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: not in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: You gotta have dudes.

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Speaker 4: You gotta have some dudes. You gotta have some give

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Speaker 4: people that people fear. And that's something the worst stretch

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Speaker 4: of quarterbacks that you could play in a playoff run

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Speaker 4: and you're talking about bad weather and get very hit

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Speaker 4: near there and we'll see how that big in the

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Speaker 4: big game for him. But so yeah, everybody's want the

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Speaker 4: complaints about this football team have been about the offense.

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Speaker 4: This is a higher that they believe addresses the offense

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Speaker 4: with someone who has proven to be successful as an

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator in the National Football League. And I think

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Speaker 4: that's it's really that simple. I think when you look

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Speaker 4: at Chill House and I think he's got a chance

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Speaker 4: to be a star. And my guess is he will

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Speaker 4: get a job in the next cycle somewhere. And I

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Speaker 4: know he They were very impressed with him, very very

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Speaker 4: IMPRESSIVEI He's never called plays in the NFL. He does

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Speaker 4: not have a track record, and I think that this

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Speaker 4: track record to go in there and lead this group

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Speaker 4: of men. That was important. Todds wanted it. He gets

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Speaker 4: a shot now and I think we'll see how it

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Speaker 4: from a from a Browns Daily standpoint, I think this

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Speaker 4: more than perhaps we have been able to get others

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Speaker 2: Now that you have a head coach. That head coach's

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Speaker 2: name is Todd Munkin. We know him very well. He

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Speaker 7: When you go back over Todd Munkin's resume, you'll see

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Speaker 1: Work real well.

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Speaker 7: Stetson Bennett never should have been the starting quarterback at Georgia.

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Speaker 7: He'll probably never be a starter, but Stetson Bennett a

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Speaker 7: two time national champion, and Todd Munkin helped bring him along,

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Speaker 7: played to his strengths and went from there. Even the

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Speaker 7: Joe who gives you a nice little tight end, which

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Speaker 7: is every good young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Dream, they have to have it.

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Speaker 7: And let's get Quinn show On Judkins back from injury

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Speaker 7: and get him going. I like the hire for those reasons.

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Speaker 7: And last but not least, this guy's going to bring

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Speaker 7: a structure to the team and a discipline to the

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Speaker 7: team that I think that they're going to need going forward.

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Speaker 2: Your new Brown's head coach is Todd Mounkin. Give A

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Speaker 2: wants to know, outside of the obvious, what are your

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Speaker 2: top five things to accomplish before the Browns head to

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Speaker 2: training camp. Well, I mean, I think the number one

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Speaker 2: thing you have to figure out is what you're doing

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Speaker 2: at quarter I mean that's every team in the NFL

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Speaker 2: only forever is is what is the planet quarterback? Obviously

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Speaker 2: we have he'll be that'll be among the first five

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Speaker 2: questions in the press conference?

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Speaker 3: Is that a fit?

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Speaker 2: Do we know when that is? Do we know when

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Speaker 2: the presser is? Givee were the finalizing all the details? Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we should have something later today or tomorrow. I

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Speaker 2: would think, so today's Wednesday, Uh a first Friday if

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Speaker 2: you will. I yeah, I mean just guess would be

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Speaker 2: first five is going to be what's your plan at quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Who's your starter? And that's so though, that had to

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Speaker 2: be something that was asked a lot in the interview

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Speaker 2: process of all of the applicants. What do you think

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Speaker 2: of this room? What do you think of these players?

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Speaker 2: And and Todd will have a plan for that, But

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Speaker 2: that's that is to me, the first thing that has

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Speaker 2: to get sorted out. If it's before training camp, that's

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Speaker 2: job onees through twelve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm just writing now.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a lot of quarterback plan, wide receiver plan,

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Speaker 4: offensive line plan, and then I'm going to put the

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Speaker 4: culture plan and then what I'm going to call the

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Speaker 4: Toughness AFC North Plan. How do what is what's camp

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Speaker 4: going to look like? What a practice is going to

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Speaker 4: look like? How do we get this football team physically

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Speaker 4: ready to be a bully in this division?

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Speaker 2: And we need to elaborate in all five of those

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Speaker 2: things because the quarterback plan is a complicated one. You

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Speaker 2: have three guys on this roster. You obviously have two

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Speaker 2: first round draft picks. There are there are quarterbacks who

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Speaker 2: are available in free agency or via trade. Is that

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Speaker 2: something that you're interested in doing? Is there somebody that

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Speaker 2: Todd Monkin has worked with before, who clearly that guy

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Speaker 2: running a business smooth, such a smooth operator. So I

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Speaker 2: mean that's like I said to me, that's one through ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: then of course the rest of it. But I'm very

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Speaker 2: fascinated to know. I think one thing that's cool I

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Speaker 2: said this in the first hour is Todd has on

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Speaker 2: it with different types of quarterbacks. Stetsan Bennett was a

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Speaker 2: guy who would run, but it wasn't primary. And then

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Speaker 2: he took a guy like Lamar and tournament to a

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Speaker 2: very proficient passer and his best seasons as a pro.

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Speaker 4: Listen, there's no doubt he is a good offensive coach

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Speaker 4: and that he has had success in the National Football League.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's just that is without question. Now he's

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Speaker 4: getting an opportunity to do something that he's never done before,

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Speaker 4: which is to lead a football team as the head

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Speaker 4: coach at the National Football League level. I have no

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Speaker 4: doubt that he's been a good successful Now you've got

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Speaker 4: to get him the quarterback and now he's had talented

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks that he has worked with in places. But when

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Speaker 4: you look at Lamar Jackson with him, and the quality

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Speaker 4: we all know that, and this year things didn't go

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Speaker 4: as well, which is why Todd Monkin is here now.

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Speaker 4: He's gotten opportunities for other jobs for as we mentioned,

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Speaker 4: has been kind of a finalist, but never the guy. Well,

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Speaker 4: now he's here, and had he not come here, he

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Speaker 4: was good. Have we not made him that coach? He

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Speaker 4: would be the offensive coordinator for the New York Giants,

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Speaker 4: like John Harbad thinks that much of them. We know

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Speaker 4: how much he thinks to him because basically he was

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Speaker 4: they said, well, then I guess you're all gone. So

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Speaker 4: that's a kind of loyalty that Todd Monkin certainly got

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Speaker 4: from John Harbaugh there in his time with the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 4: But going back to Lamar, and what I was saying

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Speaker 4: before that sixty two percent completions, He had a quarterback

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Speaker 4: rating of ninety one, and with him it goes career

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Speaker 4: high sixty seven point two twenty four touchdown, seven picks,

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Speaker 4: career high in air yards per attempt, career high in

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Speaker 4: two point seven. And then last year when that, by

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Speaker 4: the way, that's his MVP season. He was a first

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Speaker 4: he should have won the MVP the following season. Sixty

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Speaker 4: ten air yards per attempt, career high thirteen point two

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Speaker 4: yards per completion in a rating of one twenty like,

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Speaker 4: there is no doubt that Lamar Jackson accomplished things as

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Speaker 4: a passer with Todd Munkin that he had not been

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Speaker 4: able to accomplish previously. And I mentioned Bruce Arians earlier

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Speaker 4: and Bruce Arians noseball. He kept Todd Munkin on that

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Speaker 4: staff in Tampa and had him as the OC there,

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Speaker 4: which were some very prolific.

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Speaker 2: Offenses from a The second thing I think you wrote

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Speaker 2: there was weapons, weapons, weapons, which.

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Speaker 4: Is the receiver plan to me, that's to me, I'm

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Speaker 4: even again, Drigetty more specific receiver. What is the plan

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we haven't really even dipped our toe in

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Speaker 2: this at all yet because we've been in coaching search

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Speaker 2: about free agents.

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Speaker 5: We haven't.

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Speaker 3: We've talked a little bit about the draft, not a ton.

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Speaker 2: Certainly, everybody around here is very familiar with car Tit

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Speaker 2: and I would imagine he'd be in consideration in the

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Speaker 2: top ten. The Lemon kid from USC is very very

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Speaker 2: good as well. So who knows what type of player

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Speaker 2: he's looking for at receiver, what type of weapon he's

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Speaker 2: looking for there? And are there guys that he's worked

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Speaker 2: with at Georgia or in Baltimore, guys he's liked through

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Speaker 2: the years that he thinks, boy, that would work perfectly

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Speaker 2: with what I want to do offensively.

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Speaker 3: I think that's it.

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Speaker 2: And then the other one, and this is something it's

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Speaker 2: not as glamorous quarterback at receiver, but what is the

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Speaker 2: offensive line plan? I mean, there are guys that have

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Speaker 2: to be there's a ton of positions there that have

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Speaker 2: to be addressed.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you need a lot of help on the

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Speaker 4: offensive line. You need a lot of help obviously at

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Speaker 4: wide receiver. And I think that's what we're saying. That's

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Speaker 4: why it is likely to me that you know, you

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Speaker 4: think about your first three picks that you're probably going

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Speaker 4: maybe even two receivers and offensive lineman. You can address

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Speaker 4: those things in free agency as well, but I think

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Speaker 4: especially on the line, but I think the path for

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Speaker 4: the wide receiver is certainly look good. He's out, he's out.

655
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Speaker 4: The path for the wide receiver, I think in the draft,

656
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Speaker 4: and to me, it starts to pick number six again,

657
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Speaker 4: me me, Nathan Deegerra, there's no doubt in my mind

658
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Speaker 4: if I'm I'm taking a wide receiver at number six.

659
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Speaker 4: Somebody you ask people, well, does you know like any tackles?

660
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Speaker 3: Don't care?

661
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: Don't care, man, I need I need weapons. I need

662
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: people that fear defenses, fear or people that help us

663
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Speaker 4: score the football.

664
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got to get the line.

665
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 4: We have been unfortunately, we have been we know, the

666
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: greatest tackle in the history of football.

667
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna join us in thirty minutes.

668
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Speaker 4: And Unfortunately for him, he did not have the requisite

669
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Speaker 4: weapons or quarterback around him to have the success that

670
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Speaker 4: he deserved. Those are the most important things to me.

671
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: Then you get to the offensive line, which as long

672
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Speaker 4: as you can to get passable, if you have weapons

673
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: and you got a quarterback and operate, you're gonna be

674
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Speaker 4: just fine.

675
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 8: Well.

676
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Speaker 2: The other part to that is, you know, as Todd

677
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: builds out the staff, who are guys who are his

678
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: connective tissue at those position groups. Who's his offensive coordinator,

679
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: who is his offensive line coach, who's coaching receivers, who's

680
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: coaching the running backs? Like you know, when you, as

681
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, like when you're Todd's age, you've waited

682
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: this long for a job like this, you have a

683
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: list that you carry with you, like, if I ever

684
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: get a job, these are the five guys I'm want

685
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: to call for this in order. These are the guys

686
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: this in order. So I don't know who that is

687
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: for him, We don't know what that is, but but

688
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: who are those guys? And one thing that we saw

689
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: and we saw it directly, when you have somebody like

690
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: Bill Callahan coaching your offensive line, he is able to

691
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: do things with offensive line play that that others struggle

692
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: with sometimes. So like, but he's not the only one

693
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: who can do that. So who is that to me?

694
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: To buttress your point on receiver at six and honestly,

695
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: weapon weapon, wep and tackle whatever like? To me, a

696
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: great offensive line coach can cover up some of the

697
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Speaker 2: offensive line deficiencies.

698
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've seen that certainly around the league. We've

699
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: seen that, and I think it's easier to get, you know,

700
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Speaker 4: with a good offensive line coach and free agency to

701
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: buttress that room quickly. You can do that, no doubt.

702
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Speaker 3: What did you have it for for?

703
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: Was the culture plan? What is what is the message?

704
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: Who are we going to be in terms of this

705
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: this operation? What are the demands of the players? What

706
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: is the standard that is going to be set? And

707
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: what is what are you going to hold these players

708
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: to as the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. What

709
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: is the direction and the culture that you are setting?

710
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Speaker 4: And I think that's very important because I think that

711
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Speaker 4: is where you have an opportunity to make real change.

712
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Speaker 2: He uh, accountability Bill will be with a capital A

713
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: for him. I mean we just know that about his personality.

714
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Speaker 2: So he is going to be like I said, I

715
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: mean he's you ask him a direct question, You're going

716
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: to direct answer. I don't think he is somebody that's

717
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Speaker 2: vague in communication at all.

718
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: He is very direct. And I think from an.

719
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Speaker 2: Accountability standpoint, everyone will be held accountable. I don't see

720
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Speaker 2: any scenario where that's not something that is really one

721
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: of the hallmarks of what he is and what he's

722
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 2: going to do here. So you guys might not always

723
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: like it, but I think you're going to know where

724
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: you stand with Todd Mounkin. And I think accountability is

725
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: a pretty easy one. I think the next thing is

726
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: going to be very interesting because you know, what are

727
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: the Todd Monk and Cleveland Browns? What is that identity?

728
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: What is that identity?

729
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: Who are we? Yeah? Who are we? And I think

730
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: we have an opportunity.

731
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Speaker 4: To set that and set have it be different than

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Speaker 4: what we have been before.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

734
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Speaker 2: And you know the other thing here is, you know,

735
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: in a as ownership coined at this summer, you know, a

736
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: transition phase from a roster standpoint, what are we building towards?

737
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: Like does and Todd'll have all of this whenever that

738
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Speaker 2: press conference is, He'll have answers for all of this,

739
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: and I'm curious, like, what do what do you think

740
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: that the Cleveland Browns can be in twenty twenty six?

741
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: Yep, right right?

742
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: What are they going to be? What is it in

743
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven? You have you have major roster decisions

744
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: that are to get made in the next I mean ownership.

745
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: Mister Hasim said the next one hundred and twenty days.

746
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: We're almost thirty days into it, like over up until

747
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: the draft, through the draft, like what this roster is

748
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: going to be reshaped in a very very big way.

749
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: And Todd Munkin is gonna have a major say in

750
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Speaker 2: what that looks like.

751
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Speaker 4: I believe he will, and I believe he'll he will

752
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: have to. I think that when you get this job

753
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: at this point in your coaching career, you'll be sixty,

754
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: you know by the time I think he gets in

755
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 4: here in a week. I think you've got to be

756
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: assertive and you've got to be aggressive in what your

757
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 4: vision of this is. Not say that it's not collaborative.

758
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 4: Of course it's collaborative, but I think you've got to

759
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: be assertive and say, Okay, this is my shot, this

760
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: is probably his shot, this is his shot to be

761
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Speaker 4: a head coach, and I would say, you've got to

762
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: go and you've got to do it your way, and

763
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: you've got to make understand not only do you understand

764
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: the standard, that the personnel department understands the standard, and

765
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 4: if guys are not meeting them, they've got to be gone.

766
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: And if you've got to get you know, be vocal

767
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: about who you want brought in here. I say, do it.

768
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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think. I mean, we know, there's no

769
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Speaker 3: way he won't do that.

770
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Speaker 2: I agreed, Yeah, I mean I think he's gonna have

771
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: very specific things. I don't think there's going to be

772
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of uh with Todd. I don't think

773
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: there will be a whole lot of Well, let me

774
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: think about that. Like, I don't I think he knows.

775
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: I think he knows what he wants his culture to be.

776
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: I think he knows what he wants the team makeup

777
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: to be. I think he knows what he wants the

778
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: identity to be. My hunch is he knows what he

779
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: needs on this roster offensively. I'm sure he presented that

780
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: as part of the interview process in terms of these

781
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: are the things we need to be competitive quickly in

782
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: the AFC North again and to be able to punch

783
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: our weight in this division that he knows he's I mean,

784
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: he's been in the vision with us, and he's been

785
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: in the division the last three years. So he knows

786
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: what it takes to beat the Baltimore Ravens because he's

787
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: been with the Baltimore Ravens. He knows what it takes

788
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers Cincinnati Bengals. He understands it.

789
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: He knows those rosters. So in that standpoint, he's not

790
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: even to learn anything like correct. He just he probably

791
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: has those answers at the ready. That's part of the

792
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: reason he was so impressive in the process to our

793
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: search committee from the standpoint of I mean, this guy

794
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: is probably pretty direct on his plan.

795
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and I think it was obviously something that

796
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: resonated and that's why he's the head coach of your

797
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns. And so now how we get that rolling

798
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: is what is going to be very interesting. And I

799
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 4: think that culture plan, I think that is a big

800
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Speaker 4: one and I think tied into that's what I put five.

801
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Speaker 4: It's just kind of the toughness to the AFC North.

802
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 4: You know, what does the what do practices look like

803
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: are we do we take a different approach to the

804
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: physicality and the preparation for the season. You know, were

805
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 4: there things he saw with John Harbaugh that are different

806
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 4: than the way that we operated here because the Ravens

807
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: are always a tough football team.

808
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Speaker 2: I mean, he just spent his last six seasons coaching

809
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: the Georgia Bulldogs and the Baltimore Ravens. Yep, and those

810
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: are two of the most in their varying divisions to

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Speaker 2: the most punch you in the mouth physical, know exactly

812
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: who they are, operations you're gonna find yep. In fact,

813
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: if you did a a survey of college football teams

814
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: that are the most physical, most know exactly what they are,

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Speaker 2: Georgia would be in that conversation. If you had the

816
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: exact same pole around the NFL, the Baltimore Ravens would

817
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: be in that situation. And from a the other thing

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Speaker 2: with him, and you mentioned the Arians part. It's funny

819
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: like I hadn't thought about the Arians part of that.

820
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Speaker 3: I'd forgotten that an area he.

821
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: Was in Indie with Andrew Berry at that time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I had forgotten Bruce had a very direct

823
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: approach and was very absolute in his plan down in

824
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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. So you got that, then you've got the

825
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Speaker 2: time that he spent at Georgia with Kirby Smart, who's

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Speaker 2: one of the more effective leaders than of course John Harbaugh.

827
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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: very fun press conferency. How he answers these questions and

829
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Speaker 2: he's gonna get hit with all of them, and my

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Speaker 2: guess is he he'll have very direct answers for all

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Speaker 2: of it. We will circle back on all of this

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Speaker 2: coming up at the top of the hour. Coming up next,

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Speaker 9: The Cleveland Browns really really liked what he did with

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Speaker 9: Baltimore the last three years, and of course they've seen

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Speaker 9: it up close, right they play him twice a season.

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Speaker 9: They want to reimagine their offense. They want to be

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Speaker 9: a high powered offense there. I'll just share a text

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Speaker 9: that I got from a defensive coach in the NFL

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Speaker 9: just a little bit ago, who said, I think Monkin

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Speaker 9: and I think they probably made the best decision. That's

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Speaker 9: just one person's opinion, quality defensive coach that I know

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Speaker 9: who shot me that text, unprompted about Todd Munkin, a

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Speaker 9: lot of respect for him around the league, and now

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Speaker 2: News Today, of course, Todd Mounkan, your new head coach

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Speaker 2: join us coming up at four thirty, and much more

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Speaker 2: on that in the second hour of the program. The

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Speaker 2: big news in the NFL today, and this happened last night,

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00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: was the news that Bill Belichick would not be a

871
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer. He fell short of the

872
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: forty of fifty votes needed for induction into the Pro

873
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame during his first year of eligibility

874
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: for sources with you know, forced pretty good first tand

875
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: knowledge of the outcome. There's been a lot made of

876
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: this today in terms of how it could have happened.

877
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: The Bill Pollion part of it is very interesting in

878
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: terms of kind of the double talk from him. There

879
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: was a Pro Football voter by the name of Mike Sando.

880
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this.

881
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: I did see that, but it's like, it's if.

882
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 4: That's how it happened, it's even more annoying to me.

883
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: So he is a twenty eight season covering the league,

884
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: and he works at the Athletic a Hall of Fame

885
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: selector Pro Football Writers Board.

886
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 3: The show, Yeah, we had Mike on the show.

887
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: I remember that the name was familiar to me, but

888
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 2: I couldn't remember, like, you know, exactly where that stand.

889
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: He gave a very detailed breakdown on kind of how

890
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: all of this happened, and I do think it's important

891
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: just to understand the possibility of it all right, and

892
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: he does explain the original and basically these processes all changed,

893
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: and so Hall of Fame voters were given zero information

894
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: about votes from Belichick, Craft, Anderson, Craig or Greenwood on

895
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: as of February five. Award shows get closer to the

896
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame itself, informs the candidates if they're going

897
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: to be part of the class. That's how they tape

898
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: those cool knockout interviews. But once those candidates known, their

899
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: fans and friends find out. He talked about the two

900
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 2: different processes, about how coaches are on a one year

901
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: process and players are on a five year process in

902
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: terms of after they're done of the league. And then

903
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: the other thing he hypothesized was it possible that some

904
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: voters gave their votes to Let's say an Elsie Greenwood

905
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: thinking he might never be back in this spot, thinking

906
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: the Belichick's votes were already there. If that's the case,

907
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: your process is broken. And that's what he said at

908
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: the end of the summation was, Look, if this is

909
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: what happened, then they're going to redo how to do

910
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: this thing.

911
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 4: All right, let's just start with this. If Bill Belichick

912
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: is not a first ballot Hall of Fame or it

913
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: makes the Hall of Fame seem what a little bit.

914
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: Farcical, makes the Hall of Fame electors farcical electors farcical.

915
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: Yes, maybe not the Hall, but yes, yes, yeah, And

916
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 4: it makes me think that they need to get a

917
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 4: bunch of people who are currently electors out and get

918
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: some new blood in there as well. That's one number two.

919
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 4: If there is personal animus that is preventing somebody from

920
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 4: getting in, that's absurd. You are a sacred gatekeeper and

921
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: it should be based on the merits, and there is.

922
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 4: He is probably like if you were doing the Mount

923
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: Rushmore of the greatest coaches ever, he's probably George Washington.

924
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: Vince Lombardi is on there. Paul Brown, you could make

925
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: Casey go all the way back and then what he

926
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: was a maybe Bill Walsh or that's it though, but

927
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick is He's on it without any question.

928
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 3: So that's the first.

929
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 4: That's an automatic, like I would imagine if you're playing

930
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 4: that great game. We always talk about special level of

931
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 4: the Hall. He's one of the two head coaches involved

932
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: in that game. So it's it's a joke and we

933
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: have our consternation, are curiosity, are bewilderment. It's some of

934
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 4: the things that have come out of Bill Pollion's mouth

935
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: over the last decade is very well documented on this program. Yeah,

936
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: this is outrageous. He's butt hurt. I'm sure he's the

937
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: one who led this. He goes and he's like, no,

938
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: I didn't, I didn't do that. I voted for him.

939
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: Then well, actually I don't. Actually I'm not sure what

940
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: I voted. You're not sure what you voted on Bill Belichick?

941
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? Right now? This should all be public.

942
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 4: Everybody who voted against him should be out. They're no

943
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 4: longer voters. You're gone. Sorry, that's the bar, because if

944
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 4: you didn't vote for him, and I don't care if

945
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 4: you were. Listen, there's an old proverb where they talk about,

946
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: you know, a city was gonna have a big thing

947
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 4: where everybody brought we'll call it everybody brought a gallon

948
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: of wine. Okay, and they're gonna put in a big

949
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 4: thing and everybody's gonna have a party. Well, yet all

950
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 4: those people were saying, Hey, you know what in my

951
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 4: barrel of wine, I'm gonna put ninety percent water, ten

952
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 4: percent wine. Nobody's gonna notice everybody else to bring wine.

953
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 4: Guess what, you know what they ended up with ninety

954
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 4: percent water because people thought, oh, well, somebody else is

955
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: gonna do the right thing. You cannot do that if

956
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 4: you have that responsibility. He should have been fifty out

957
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: of fifty the end, we'll deal with whatever else there is.

958
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: But Bill Belichick is a first ballot, unanimous Hall of Famer,

959
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 4: and anybody who didn't vote for him should be gone,

960
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: should be disclosed.

961
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 3: You're gone.

962
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 4: And that's how we'll get at least eleven new voters

963
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: in there that should hopefully be able to make this

964
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: even better than it was in the past.

965
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to have complete accountability for your ballot,

966
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: so they all should be made public in terms of

967
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: who you voted for and who you didn't. It's too

968
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: big of a decision not to it is. I remember

969
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: Bob Kravitz who presented Peyton Manning. He just stood up

970
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: and said, it's Peyton Manning and our buddy Armando Saro

971
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: so Garo was the promote was the presenter for Bill Belichick.

972
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: So that was interesting because obviously he's down in South

973
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: Florida and I don't know if he ever covered Bill

974
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: other than ESPN National and obviously been National outkicked for

975
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: a while.

976
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 3: But like I was surprised him. Yeah, I was surprised

977
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: it was Sam.

978
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 2: I would have thought it would been somebody from Boston

979
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: who did it, but it was Armando who did it.

980
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: Who's awesome, and he kind of outlined his process on that.

981
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: But really, all you have to say is it's Bill Belichick.

982
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: And then you sit down eight super Bowls.

983
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: That's it. It's Bill Belichick, sit down.

984
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 4: That's it.

985
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 3: On to the next. It doesn't even that's it. That's it.

986
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's I hate because I love the folks

987
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: who run the hall, and I love the Pro Football

988
00:43:59,480 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.

989
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 3: I think it's awesome.

990
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: I think if you're in this area and you have

991
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: not been down there, go and take your kids. Your

992
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: kids are gonna off ball. Especially you have little kids,

993
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: young kids who love who love ball and love football.

994
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: It's so interactive, it's so cool. I hate that the

995
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: Hall has this now is going to be over not

996
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: only this class, it's going to be over next year

997
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: at the select at the induct induction process enshrinement. I

998
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: hate that for the Hall because it shouldn't be. But

999
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: this is this is a massive blank up. It's really

1000
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: a we did this wrong, like what happened here? And

1001
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: I hate all I mean, I think a lot of

1002
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: these Hall of Fames have real problems. I think for

1003
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: the most part, the NFL Hall of the Profoca Hall

1004
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: of Fame has done pretty good. I hate, for example,

1005
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: the baseball Hall of Fame arbitrarily being gatekeepers of who

1006
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: did or who didn't do bad things. That drives me

1007
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: absolutely nuts. The Pro football, the college football Hall of Fame,

1008
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: they have a backlog of guys they have to get in,

1009
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: and they're in a bit of a tough spot because it's.

1010
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: A relatively new hall.

1011
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: I don't pay enough attention to the hockey one, the

1012
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 2: basketball one. I think they let too many people in

1013
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: the football one usually gets it right. But this is

1014
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: an instance where you're sesses and whatever it may be,

1015
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: and if you have access to X or Twitter or whatever,

1016
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: and go read Mike sand Oaks. He was a pretty

1017
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: good breakdown of possibly how it happened. I actually found

1018
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: the original tweet now read it really quickly. Here here

1019
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: were the ways, the potential ways Belichick may have gotten

1020
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: fewer than forty, according to Mike, and I think it's

1021
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: a it's a really educated way. It doesn't make it right,

1022
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: but I think it's a very educated way of how

1023
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: it can happen. Let's say four or five voters who

1024
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: were strong ad because for a specific senior player, figured

1025
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: Belichick was going to make it regardless of they funneled

1026
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: votes to competing candidates and hopes of boosting them.

1027
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: Over the forty vote threashold.

1028
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: Let's say a few voters prior to senior players on

1029
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: thinking that Belichick will be back in the room next

1030
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: year while the players on the ballot this year might

1031
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: disappear into the bad forever. Let's say a few voters

1032
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: found spygate cheating disqualifying. Let's say a few voters protested

1033
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: new rules making coaches eliber one year after retiring instead

1034
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: of instead of five. My problem with all of those

1035
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: is those are all subjective issues. Here's the other thing,

1036
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: and this is this shouldn't have been a subjective process.

1037
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 2: Some of these guys are The other thing I would

1038
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: say on the veterans, guys who get in if you're

1039
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: not a if you're not in there when you're eligible,

1040
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 2: the idea that we're gonna circle back and then bring

1041
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: guys in, I don't like that either.

1042
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: It's all of fame, man, It's not pretty good. No, agreed.

1043
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 4: And that's why we always talk about there needs to

1044
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: be a separate level where and you can change all

1045
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: the time. Where the ultimate game and these are the

1046
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 4: guys that would be in the ultimate game of football.

1047
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: You have two teams, easy to do.

1048
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 2: I also think coaches shouldn't be on the same one

1049
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: as they should be on the same one as players,

1050
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: not the same one as owners and contributors and vets.

1051
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: To me, they should be on the same timeline as

1052
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: the players are.

1053
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 3: I don't care about the time. He just should be

1054
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 3: in consideration. Though.

1055
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 2: The other thing I would say is you should never

1056
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: limit the amount of guys who can get in. No,

1057
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: if there are ten guys who are worthy of this year?

1058
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: Take ten? Take ten, there are only one.

1059
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: If there's one, then just do one, like there's no

1060
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: reason you got to get to a number like who's

1061
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: worthy of this?

1062
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: Yes, he's worthy, worthy he should be when you walk

1063
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 4: into the coaches wing, if there is such a thing,

1064
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: which I'm just saying, he's be Like he said, he's

1065
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 4: either the George Washington on the mount Rest mooar, or

1066
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: he's number two. But what are we talking about?

1067
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: He's on that list.

1068
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: There's five six guys that would be on that list

1069
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 2: and he's one of them.

1070
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: People. You can't protest that he's on a one year track.

1071
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: That has nothing to do with him. So withhold a

1072
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: vote for him. That's done, and I'm with it. Oh well,

1073
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 4: I'm worried this guy's going to be off the belt. Listen.

1074
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 4: If it's come down to that, he probably shouldn't be.

1075
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: A Hall of Famer. I ain't not a Hall of

1076
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: Famer man.

1077
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: And that's okay. You could have been a really good

1078
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 4: player and had a great career and have the respect

1079
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: of a great many people. You don't have to be

1080
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer. It's not a right to be

1081
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer. You have to be. I think

1082
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 4: people who are Hall of famers, the voters have to

1083
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 4: be compelled to make them a Hall of Famer, Like you,

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00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: you must be a Hall of Famer or else this

1085
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 4: is a farce, do.

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Speaker 2: You think I Also, one thing we haven't talked about

1087
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: yet is I wonder if Kraft had a part in this,

1088
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: because Craft's one of those guys. I wonder if he

1089
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: was like, I'm not going in with him.

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Speaker 10: He had He came out with a statement that strongly

1091
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 10: said like we're not here and with everything we've done

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00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 10: without Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, And I saw that Armando shared, like

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00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: the comments from Brady that he shared.

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00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, hall of famers going on, Jimmy Johnson went.

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00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 10: Jimmy Johnson's boycotting. He already he was on macafeet today

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00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 10: He's like, I'm not going.

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00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is and this isn't. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if L. C. Green would still.

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00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with him. But like

1101
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: the idea that everybody off the steel curtain has to

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00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: get in, it's so annoying. Like twenty guys on the

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00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: seventies Steelers, they're all Hall of Famers or Famer Hall

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00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: of Famers.

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Speaker 4: Come on, if you didn't even think they were Hall

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00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: of Famers at the time, they're not Hall of Famers now, No, No,

1107
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: that's not hard to me. That's a pretty easy one.

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00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 3: Is it, Ken Anderson? Is he the other one?

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00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 4: It was a two time first team All Pro, six

1110
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 4: Pro Bowls, okay, never Defensive Player of the Year Okay.

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00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, this is one that was botched. And

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Speaker 3: I hate that.

1113
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: I hate that some of this is gonna fall at

1114
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: the feet of the Hall and it really should fall

1115
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: at the feet of the electors. And I hope that

1116
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: the folks who weren't who didn't have him on a ballot,

1117
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: to me, they need to come forward and defend their boath,

1118
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: their vote, all of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Ken Anderson's a one time All Pro. Yes, he

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Speaker 4: won the NBNB in nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 3: So much differ than SIPE. Honest, that's it. It's not

1122
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: much different than SIPE. Pretty similar, all right.

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Speaker 2: The hoff will join us on Todd Monkin coming up

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Speaker 3: This from Adam Schefter two minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: Another higher in Cleveland head coach Todd Monkin is bringing

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00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: former Ravens offensive line coach George Warhop with him to

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00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: the Browns to coach the same position per horses, that

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Speaker 2: is the King of Mates, and about a million other things. Beef, beef, jerky, subscriptions,

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Speaker 2: everything you'd ever want. We've got a coach, we got

1141
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 2: an offensive line coach.

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Speaker 5: Off go, let's go, baby, I'm fired up.

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Speaker 8: I know that a lot of people in the building

1144
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 8: and you guys included no Todd Bunkin from when he

1145
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 8: was the offensive coordinator with the Browns of twenty nineteen

1146
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 8: and nothing but amazing thing to say about the man,

1147
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 8: from his leadership to his intelligence, his emotional intelligence, ability

1148
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 8: to connect with players experienced, which I'm really excited about

1149
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 8: because I was a little bit nervous about hiring a

1150
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 8: real young guy. But I think really with this hire,

1151
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 8: you get the best of both worlds because you get

1152
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 8: a guy that you know very well because he's been

1153
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 8: in the building. You get a guy that's got a

1154
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 8: wide network to be able to hire great assistance. Kevin

1155
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 8: had a lot of good assistants that were in his

1156
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 8: network that he was able to bring in here into Cleveland,

1157
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 8: and I think that really helped him. I think that

1158
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 8: will help Todd. That's a big reason why you hire

1159
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 8: a head coach. But I think he's also got that

1160
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 8: leadership ability because he has been a head coach before.

1161
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 8: He's been an offensive coordinator a bunch of places, but

1162
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 8: he's still that creative offensive mind to be able to

1163
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 8: push this offense in the the right direction, develop a

1164
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 8: young quarterback into a franchise guy. I think they got

1165
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 8: the great the guy, They got the guy they wanted.

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00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 5: They got the right guy for this job.

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Speaker 3: Huff.

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Speaker 4: When you have a guy who's coming in and we

1169
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 4: kind of talked about some of the priorities, but to me,

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00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: we supportback plan, wide receiver plan, offenselamp him then the

1171
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 4: culture plan. What do you want as a former player

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00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: for a young team, a team that you know we've

1173
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 4: talked about the net accountability and that that toughness. What

1174
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 4: is it that you want to hear or see from

1175
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: Todd Monkin in his opening press or about that specifically

1176
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 4: as a former player, that would resonate with you and say, Okay,

1177
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 4: this is this is good.

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00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 8: To be honest, words don't really matter too much for me,

1179
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 8: I want to see the actions right. But the message

1180
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 8: that I want Todd to relay to everybody is I've

1181
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 8: been in these shoes before. I know what it takes

1182
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 8: to win in the AFC North. I'm going to be

1183
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 8: able to come in here and to be able to

1184
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 8: develop a modern, cutting edge offense that utilizes our talent

1185
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 8: to the best of the ability that we have, puts

1186
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 8: them in the right positions to succeed. I'm going to

1187
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 8: motivate them, I'm going to hold them accountable. I'm going

1188
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 8: to be able to work hand in hand and develop

1189
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Speaker 8: a young quarterback, and I'm going to put together a

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Speaker 8: staff that is going to be elite, that's going to

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Speaker 8: continue the dominance that we've had on the defensive side

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00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 8: of the football, and we're only going to be three,

1193
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 8: four or five six times better on the offensive side

1194
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 8: of the ball because that is directly under my oversight,

1195
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 8: and that is a big reason why they brought me here,

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00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 8: so that I can develop that young quarterback and give

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Speaker 8: us an offense that can win a Super Bowl, that

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Speaker 8: can win AFC North titles, and make us consistently successful.

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Speaker 2: When Todd was here in twenty nineteen, what were your

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Speaker 2: what do you remember about him? Just from a personality standpoint,

1201
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: from a leadership standpoint. Obviously you weren't around all the time,

1202
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: but you were bouncing and out or remember doing You'd

1203
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: be in here and we do shows and all of

1204
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: those things, and you talk to most people on that staff.

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00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: What is kind of your personal recollection of Todd the person?

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00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 8: Well, I think he's a great person. I think one

1207
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 8: of his big skill sets is he is a people

1208
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 8: connector right, it doesn't matter if you're a twenty year

1209
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 8: old rookie or a sixty year old grizzled offensive line

1210
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 8: coach or maybe seventy if you're Bob Wiley like you

1211
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 8: connect with him, right, you're going to have something in common.

1212
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 8: He loves the game of football, he loves talking about football.

1213
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 8: But I think he takes interest in all the players

1214
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 8: and all the people, the staff members that are around

1215
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 8: the building individually in them, right, And that's meaningful. Right

1216
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 8: when you're sitting in that role as a head coach,

1217
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 8: you need to get people to get out of their

1218
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 8: comfort zone, to work a little bit harder, work more

1219
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 8: to get other than they maybe are comfortable doing. Because

1220
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 8: that's what being a team is all about. And it's

1221
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 8: your job to get those people to want to work

1222
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 8: and to play for you because that relationship is important

1223
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 8: to them, and so you get the most out of them.

1224
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 8: They want to give more than just what their job

1225
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 8: description provides. And I think Todd is that type of guy.

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00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 8: I'm sure you guys got a chance to get to

1227
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 8: know him. You got to see him around the building,

1228
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 8: you got to talk with him. He's great, he's engaging,

1229
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 8: he's interesting, he's funny, he's got a great personality. He's

1230
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 8: got a great football mind. And I think that resonates

1231
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 8: with an NFL locker room more than anything can you communicate,

1232
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 8: how do you find a way to relate and how

1233
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 8: do you show me that you're putting me in a

1234
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 8: great position to succeed? And now it's on me.

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Speaker 5: The accountability is on me to go get it done.

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Speaker 3: A haf.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard when you were on

1238
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 4: hold earlier, but I know one thing that might make

1239
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 4: you consider coming back and playing for him is that

1240
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: Todd Mounkin is going to bring George Warhop with him

1241
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 4: to be the new offensive line coach of the Cleveland Browns.

1242
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 4: I know that he was a coach that you loved.

1243
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 4: What does he bring to the table, and a guy

1244
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 4: that I know was a part of the hof being

1245
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Speaker 4: the Hoff.

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00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 8: Well, I wouldn't let the cat out of the bag,

1247
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 8: but I kind of knew that was coming for a

1248
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 8: little while, and I am so fired up about it

1249
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 8: because George is right there with Bill Callahan as one

1250
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 8: of the best offensive line coaches of all time. And

1251
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 8: I think the skill set that George has right that

1252
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 8: you want from an a line coach. All Right, They're

1253
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 8: going to be tough, they're gonna be hard working, they're

1254
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 8: gonna be accountable.

1255
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 5: But more than that, and.

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Speaker 8: This is what Bill was really good at Bill Callahan

1257
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 8: is he can develop young guys. He can develop those

1258
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 8: backup players that I think a lot of offensive line

1259
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 8: coaches struggle with because they haven't put the procedures in

1260
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 8: place every day that you go out on the practice field,

1261
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 8: the drills, the consistency, and the technique that he's demanding.

1262
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 8: That's how you develop offensive lineman. It's a million reps

1263
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 8: at a million different techniques.

1264
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 5: That's how you get better, right.

1265
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 8: It's not like some of these flashy positions where you

1266
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 8: just go out and you catch the football and you

1267
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 8: dance around in your underwear. No, like can be a

1268
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 8: good offensive lineman. You go three hours every day, you

1269
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 8: beat your head against the bag, you do ten thousand

1270
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 8: different drills exactly the same way, and then you do

1271
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 8: it so many times, not that you get it right,

1272
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 8: but that you can't get it wrong anymore, and you're

1273
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 8: doing it in your sleep. That's the type of coach

1274
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 8: that George is and what that gives you. Like from

1275
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 8: a strategy standpoint, if I'm sitting there and not Andrew Berry,

1276
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 8: I'm going this is amazing, right, Because offensive line coaches

1277
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 8: have the most impact on player development and taking a

1278
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 8: guy from where he is to where he is when

1279
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 8: he's on the field months years later. Because like I said,

1280
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 8: it's not so much about talent, it's about the work ethic.

1281
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 8: It's about doing the technique, putting your body in the

1282
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 8: right position to be able to succeed. And George is

1283
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 8: able to do that. So Andrew's looking at it going, Okay,

1284
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 8: these guys that maybe weren't my elite starters, maybe some

1285
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 8: of these guys I'm bringing in fourth fifth rounders. He

1286
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 8: has the confidence in knowing that George is going to

1287
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 8: be able to turn those guys into reliable starters. Maybe

1288
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 8: he's not going to turn him into all pros, right,

1289
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 8: because everybody has a ceiling.

1290
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 5: But I'll give you the example of Jason.

1291
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 8: Pingston, right, he was a mid level guard from pitt

1292
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 8: not really highly todded coming out, but George worked with him,

1293
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 8: George developed him, and he became a very good starter

1294
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 8: in the NFL, next to me at left guard before

1295
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 8: Joel Bltonio came in.

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Speaker 5: And so that's the.

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Speaker 8: Type of story that you hear with the guys that

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00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 8: George has worked with throughout his career. He's able to

1299
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 8: develop those guys that maybe other coaches can't, and you

1300
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 8: can get great value out of those mid to late

1301
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 8: round picks, those guys that are cheaper in free agency

1302
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 8: because George is a developer.

1303
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're just joining us and you're unfamiliar George

1304
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: Warhop Corney to Adam Schefter and the Hoff's coming here

1305
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: to be the offensive line.

1306
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: Coach and Loge advocated for him.

1307
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: George was here from nine to thirteen, so hits his

1308
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: second tour of duty here as well. So that's there.

1309
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: That's there's familiarity in that sense.

1310
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 4: No doubt. And look as you look on his Wikipedia.

1311
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 4: In his Wikipedia, yeah, look at the first year that

1312
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 4: he started coaching the offensive line position in the National

1313
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: Football League ramits nineteen ninety sixty sixteen sixty six.

1314
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 3: That might be o pace.

1315
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 4: He's been coaching the offensive line in the league for

1316
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 4: three decade decades. Yeah, this is this is a professional

1317
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: veteran offensive line So this leads me to the next question.

1318
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: Because we were thinking about like the checklist for Todd

1319
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: and how this all comes together. One of the first

1320
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: things that we said was, okay, you got to put

1321
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: a staff together, and we talked about how important that

1322
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: offensive line coach was And one thing I said in

1323
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: the first hour of the program was when we had Bill,

1324
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: and we had really great talent on the offensive line

1325
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: in their prime at the time when we had Bill,

1326
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: but it felt like if there was an injury, Bill

1327
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: was an absolute savant of getting a guy who maybe

1328
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: didn't have the talent play up.

1329
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: And I was I'm not you, clearly, but like I.

1330
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: Was thinking to myself, is this a position where if

1331
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: you are expertly coached, there's maybe as much as any

1332
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: position in the league you can max out whatever talent

1333
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: you have if you are expertly coached.

1334
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 3: Is that fair?

1335
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 5: No doubt.

1336
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 8: There's a wider range probably at the offensive line position

1337
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 8: of Florida Ceiling than any other position because it's so

1338
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 8: skill based, and the skills that you learn are not

1339
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 8: things that you roll out of your mile.

1340
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 5: As womb being able to do.

1341
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 8: I mean tick set backwards at full speed with your

1342
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 8: base three feet wide and then go block Miles Garrett

1343
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 8: coming off the edge three and a half feet off

1344
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 8: the ground, turning the corner at a four five forty

1345
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 8: like those are not things that are normal, like catching

1346
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 8: the football. You do that since basically you can walk

1347
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 8: if you're an athlete throwing the football, throwing things. I mean,

1348
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 8: my son's throwing ice cubes at his sisters since he

1349
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 8: was three years old. Like, those are normal things that

1350
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 8: you learned running forward. We all do that at some

1351
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 8: point if we can run. Playing on the offensive line,

1352
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 8: I don't see many people going out kicksetting or duck

1353
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 8: walking or gorilla walking or whatever you want to call it,

1354
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 8: because it's just unnatural things. And so you've got to

1355
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 8: take a guy who's good athlete, big, powerful and strong,

1356
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 8: and you've got to teaching these skills. And if you

1357
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 8: can do those skills, you can play a long time.

1358
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 8: That's why there's a lot of old offensive linemen in

1359
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 8: the NFL that are playing a lot longer than they

1360
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 8: can barely walk. Because if you can get in a

1361
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 8: position and you can use your brain, you can get

1362
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 8: your body in between them, and you can win with

1363
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 8: bio mechanics. And that's the thing that George teaches you

1364
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 8: how to do.

1365
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 4: Do you think, you know we see him, George coming

1366
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 4: from that staff. Do you think one of the things,

1367
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 4: you know, maybe we take a look at here is

1368
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 4: is the Ravens staff from last year. These are guys

1369
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 4: that obviously he enjoyed coaching with for multiple seasons, and

1370
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 4: I wonder how many of them with Harbaugh being out,

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01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 4: how many of them could be on their way here.

1372
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 4: Warhop was his OH Line coach, for example, And you

1373
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 4: just makes sense to me that perhaps there could be

1374
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 4: more people from that staff on their way here. And

1375
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 4: is that important, that kind of continuity and familiarity.

1376
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's really important. And that's one of

1377
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 8: the things I mentioned when I posted a video this

1378
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 8: week just talking about the things that make me nervous.

1379
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 5: About a young head coach.

1380
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 8: Yes, you know, it's it's it's great the young guys.

1381
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 8: I think they're on the cutting edge of techniques, philosophies,

1382
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 8: and you know, they can push your scheme forward, which

1383
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 8: is great, Like that's important, of course, but it's it's

1384
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 8: where is there no work? How many guys that they

1385
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 8: worked with that they know that they can pick up

1386
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 8: the phone and say, come to Cleveland with me, and

1387
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 8: it's not a cold call because the unfortunate situation we're

1388
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 8: in is it's not the most desirable open position. Now

1389
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 8: granted for guys that don't have a job, you know,

1390
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 8: maybe they'll be willing to introduce themselves to Todd and

1391
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 8: work together. But it's an old boys system. You want

1392
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 8: to know the guy that you're going to work with.

1393
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 8: You're gonna want to trust him. You're going to want

1394
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 8: to know how he runs his meetings, how he runs

1395
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 8: his program, what his expectations are, and so you want

1396
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 8: to generally work for somebody that you know that you're

1397
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 8: willing to trust this period of your life to him,

1398
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 8: to be able to look at your wife in the

1399
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 8: eye and say, honey, we're moving to Cleveland and know

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01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 8: that it's going to be something that's going to be

1401
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 8: around for a while and you're not going to have

1402
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 8: to tell her nine to ten two years from now, oh, honey,

1403
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 8: by the way, we got to move again because we

1404
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 8: got fired because I trusted this guy. I didn't really

1405
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 8: know him, and well, we all got fired because he

1406
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 8: wasn't very good. So having that familiarity and having those

1407
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 8: nicols throughout the league, like a guy like Todd Munkin has,

1408
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 8: is a huge, huge benefit when you hire him as

1409
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 8: a head coach, because when he picks up the phone

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01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 8: and the guy like George Warhop is available, who's one

1411
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 8: of the best offensive line coaches in the league. George

1412
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 8: says on day one, Yep, I'll be there.

1413
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1414
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Speaker 4: So just real quickly, some names there. Willie Taggart was

1415
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 4: the assistant head coach and the running back coach all

1416
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 4: three years that Monkin was the offensive coordinator. T Martin,

1417
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: Tennessee legend, was the offensive quarterback coach there.

1418
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 3: Real quickly.

1419
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: Taggart was former head coach at USF and then Oregon

1420
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: and Florida State, so he was in that in that

1421
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: college world. And then Tim Martin was a national championship

1422
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: quarterback at Tennessee.

1423
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 3: Yep.

1424
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 4: Greg Lewis, the former Eagles wide receiver has been their

1425
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 4: wide receivers coach. The run game coordinator's a guy named

1426
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 4: Travis Switzer.

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01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 6: Uh.

1428
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Speaker 4: And the assistant offensive line coach Trevelle Wharton, who I

1429
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 4: think played for the Panthers if I'm not mistaken. Could

1430
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 4: Does that sound right?

1431
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 3: Hoff?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, a little bit of commanders at the end, but yeah,

1433
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 8: great player. And I don't know him personally, but I'm

1434
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 8: sure if he's learned from Georgia, he's pretty good.

1435
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's the offensive staff that he had, and

1436
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 4: then they also had an offensive assistant coach named Danny Bryer.

1437
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 4: So T Martin Tennessee feels like a Tennessee connection would

1438
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 4: make a lot of sense here, obviously, but we'll see

1439
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 4: how many of those guys. He's already pulled one of them, obviously,

1440
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 4: that being George warhop Huff.

1441
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: In terms of what you think, you know, one of

1442
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: the other things we kind of were talking about is like,

1443
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: all right, what are the Todd Monk and Cleveland Browns?

1444
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: And one thing that's I think really cool about him

1445
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: is you know, what he did at Georgia with that

1446
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: talent was very different than what he did offensively with Lamar.

1447
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 2: I think Todd's pretty malleable. I think he can build

1448
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: an offense around whatever your skill set is. But in

1449
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: terms of the identity, what do you I guess I'll

1450
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: put you try to get you to get inside his head.

1451
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: What do you think the Todd Monk and Cleveland Browns

1452
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: will be all about? What will be their ethos? And

1453
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: then beyond that, what do you hope it is?

1454
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 5: Well?

1455
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 8: I think the great thing is when you get a

1456
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 8: guy who's an experienced coordinator, he's been around, he's done

1457
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 8: to a lot of different stuff. It gives them the

1458
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 8: ability to look at his players and say, Okay, this

1459
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 8: is the scheme that I think that they're going to

1460
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 8: run the best. So you can move and mold your

1461
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 8: scheme to the players that you have. Now, you're not

1462
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 8: gonna want to change year in and year out, and

1463
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 8: you're going to have your base fundamentals and your philosophy.

1464
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 8: But it gives you great flexibility where you bring in

1465
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 8: a guy that maybe is kind of new, he just

1466
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 8: kind of knows what he's doing and he knows what

1467
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 8: he has done recently, which is, you know, he's only

1468
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 8: been around for a short period of time, so he's

1469
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 8: going to kind of do that and kind of try

1470
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,479
Speaker 8: to fit the players into that mold, which sometimes it works,

1471
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 8: but sometimes it's a little bit tough. But I think

1472
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 8: with Todd he is a pass first guy, but I

1473
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 8: don't think he's reckless about it.

1474
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 5: And I think you guys.

1475
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 8: Will remember that when he was in Cleveland, he liked

1476
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 8: to throw the football. He was comfortable throwing on first

1477
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 8: down and being aggressive. But I think that's kind of

1478
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 8: where the NFL is today, to be honest. But he

1479
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 8: gives you multiplicity in your different schemes. Like I said,

1480
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 8: with that back from but he likes to change formations

1481
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 8: different personnel groupings. He's going to add a lot of

1482
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 8: motion and high disguise and window dressing and try to

1483
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 8: make it hard on a defense. What his philosophy is,

1484
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 8: he wants to put the defense on their heels, and

1485
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 8: then he wants to get into personnel groupings and shifts

1486
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 8: and formations to know where the windows and the holes

1487
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 8: and that defense are going to be. Because typically when

1488
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 8: a defense sees a lot of shifts in motion, they

1489
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 8: get basic right because they're just trying to communicate, get

1490
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 8: lined up right, so every gap is covered. And when

1491
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 8: you can do that to a defense, you get them

1492
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 8: on their heels. Now you know basically what their checks are.

1493
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 8: So if you put a weird personnel grouping in there,

1494
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 8: let's just say, and you have a weird formation and

1495
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 8: the shift. If they're not exactly sure what you're doing,

1496
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 8: or you're doing something that maybe they haven't seen their

1497
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 8: game plan for recently, they check to some basic stuff

1498
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 8: and a lot of times those checks are consistent throughout

1499
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 8: the league and throughout, excuse me, throughout the year. So

1500
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 8: on offense, from watching film, you kind of know what

1501
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 8: defense they're going to be in in that situation when

1502
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 8: you call that play and you got that shift motion

1503
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 8: personnel grouping, and then the beauty is like, all right,

1504
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 8: well I can now teach my players. I can go

1505
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 8: through the walkthrough and then practice that. Hey, you still

1506
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 8: have to be honest, but we think they're going to

1507
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 8: check and do this when we are in this play

1508
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 8: this week.

1509
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 5: And here's the.

1510
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 8: Hole, so I want you to look here first. Then

1511
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 8: if that's not open, they're taking that away.

1512
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 5: Boom.

1513
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 8: Now you've got your progression. But it gives you a

1514
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 8: jump and a head start and a one step ahead

1515
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 8: of where that defense is before the ball gets snapped.

1516
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 4: Any I was Patrick Ricard was a guy that obviously

1517
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 4: was there before Todd Munkin became the offens corner, but

1518
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 4: found a way to use him. We got Aiden Huntington

1519
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 4: running around in some of those formations. So former defensive lineman,

1520
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 4: maybe you see something there, but this is one of

1521
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 4: those things that you know, we're not going to be

1522
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 4: able to really feel it and tell you see it.

1523
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 4: As you said, you're not about words, You're all about

1524
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 4: that action.

1525
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 3: Hof. You know, hopefully we will get there.

1526
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 4: And one thing from an action standpoint, I do want

1527
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 4: to bring up, because you know the Hof beef was

1528
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 4: a hit for me at the holiday season in terms

1529
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 4: of all the people I've gifted it to, people losing

1530
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 4: their mind, salivating over the deliciousness of the hops, wagu

1531
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 4: the beef sticks, now the beef Jerky, And I know

1532
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 4: you just launched a beef Jerky subscription club, which I

1533
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 4: am a member of, proud member of. What can you

1534
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 4: tell the people about that? And I know that the

1535
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 4: beef Stick Club is coming soon. And let me tell

1536
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 4: you something. When I ate my last Apple Cheddar beef stick,

1537
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 4: I wept.

1538
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: I did.

1539
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 4: I wept A tear came back.

1540
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 8: The best line in the Bible, Jesus wept. Only we're

1541
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 8: going to change it to the Hof beef Bible. Is

1542
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 8: the wet when.

1543
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 4: I saved him for like two weeks, you know, like

1544
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 4: when I remember when the show twenty four, I was

1545
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 4: a big twenty four guy when it was going to end,

1546
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 4: like I didn't want to watch the last episode because

1547
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 4: like once I watched that episode, like I couldn't watch

1548
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 4: it again. That's the good news is I can reorder

1549
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 4: the Hof beef Stick and I will, but I let

1550
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 4: that I let that last one sit there.

1551
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 3: I had to find the perfect moment for it.

1552
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, college that happens with us two. It's so funny,

1553
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 8: like there is such a limited supply in my mind

1554
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 8: that I'm like, man, I don't want to eat that

1555
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 8: tenderline because I know Andy's gonna want it for Christmas.

1556
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 8: But then I'm like, well I got the cole It's like,

1557
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 8: why why am I saying it so long?

1558
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, exactly.

1559
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 8: But no, we're really excited about this Beef Jerky subscription program.

1560
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 8: And it's something that people have been just plugging me

1561
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 8: about because it's really popular obviously, right, Like it's great

1562
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 8: going online game able to order ship to your house.

1563
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 8: But like for people that love beef, they love super

1564
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 8: high quality, nutritious beef that's farmed, a table raised, they

1565
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 8: know where it's coming from, that they just don't want

1566
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 8: to think about it. They just wanted to show up

1567
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 8: so they can throw it in their car, just eat it,

1568
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 8: just let that beef melt in their mouth with delicious

1569
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 8: Teriaki and pepper Jerky and the ass Kicker, which is

1570
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:45,879
Speaker 8: one of my favorites.

1571
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 5: So we're like, all right, we just got to figure

1572
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 5: this out.

1573
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 8: You know, there's some back end nerd stuff that needs

1574
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 8: to go on the website to be able to make

1575
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 8: it happen. But we finally figured it out. And it's

1576
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 8: cool because we offer three six nine packs. You can

1577
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 8: get quarterly, you can get it monthly. But if you

1578
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 8: don't know exact what packs you want, We've got some

1579
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 8: different flavor mixes and we'll send the varieties of flavors

1580
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 8: that hit your palate. So MVP classics. If you're a

1581
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 8: heat guy, go with the heat seekers.

1582
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 5: So it gives you.

1583
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 8: That that beauty of offloading the decisions. Like I just

1584
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 8: know that I want it, and I know it's going

1585
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 8: to be good, but I don't want to think about

1586
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 8: all that other Right when I go to Dee's house

1587
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 8: for dinner. Yeah, I go to Dee's house for dinner.

1588
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 8: I'm like, I make decisions all day long. I don't

1589
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 8: want to do it. I know you're going to do

1590
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 8: something amazing. Just cook for me and let's go break

1591
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 8: some bread. Let's go drink some Dino and have the

1592
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 8: sec and worry about.

1593
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 5: The last baby.

1594
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you are the hoff and you have a

1595
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 2: gold jacket. How does it sit with you that Bill

1596
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 2: Belichick isn't going on in the first ballot?

1597
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 5: I am.

1598
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 8: I gotta say I'm a little disappointed. I understand that

1599
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame, unfortunately it's typically in sports, it's

1600
01:09:55,439 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 8: run by the media, and it's the last ditch opportunity

1601
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 8: for those members sometimes to take a shot and kind

1602
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 8: of like a slap on the wrist that the guys

1603
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 8: that they didn't like or they felt they didn't do

1604
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 8: something the right way. You think back to Too and

1605
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 8: how long he had to wait to get in the

1606
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 8: Hall of Fame. You know, Warren Sapp great player, not

1607
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 8: a good human being, and supposedly these Hall of Fames

1608
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 8: they don't take any of that into account, but obviously

1609
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 8: they do. Bill Belichick's the most successful NFL coach in history,

1610
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 8: and for him to not get in the first ballot,

1611
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 8: it clearly is a reflection on the fact that everybody

1612
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 8: hated him, including a lot of his coaches that work

1613
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 8: for him. The media hated working with him, and it's

1614
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 8: the cheating scandals that came about from it that they're saying, hey,

1615
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 8: we're going to give you one more time, which.

1616
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 5: I don't know always liked.

1617
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 8: I don't always like that, to be honest, Even if

1618
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 8: you took the stuff the super Bowls he won when

1619
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 8: he was cheating and he got caught for it, and

1620
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 8: he threw him away.

1621
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 5: He's still a first ballot Hall.

1622
01:10:54,360 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 2: Of Famer, Yes, yes, yeah, And it seems more and more, uh.

1623
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of Pollyon behind this. And

1624
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: the thing I hate about it, Hoff and I know

1625
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: how much it means to you. I hate that this

1626
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: is going to kind of be a cloud over the

1627
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: enshrinement this summer. I hate that it's going to be

1628
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: a cloud over the new class that goes in because

1629
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: they're going to be asked about it, right, yeah, And

1630
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 2: so I hate that because it is such a special,

1631
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,480
Speaker 2: pristine accomplishment.

1632
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: It's the ultimate accomplishment.

1633
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: And to have this overshadow it is I think it

1634
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: sucks for the It sucks for Bill, whatever people think

1635
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: of him, it sucks for him that he's not a

1636
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: first ballot obviously should be. But then beyond that, off

1637
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: like for the guys going in, now this is going

1638
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 2: to be all anyone's talking about.

1639
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 5: I totally agree.

1640
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 8: And I think two things should happen with the Hall

1641
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 8: of Fame. One, I think they should be very clear

1642
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 8: in the voting bylaws of do we take into account

1643
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 8: any things that happened, you know, after their playing career.

1644
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 8: Like I think about baseball and the steroid scandal and

1645
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 8: stuff like, hey, those guys never.

1646
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 5: Got caught at the time.

1647
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, we know they're using steroids, but that's the game

1648
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 8: of baseball at the time. So now we're going to

1649
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 8: dig him for it. That didn't make sense to me.

1650
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 5: Ever, So I.

1651
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 8: Think the same thing with like the cheating scandals and stuff.

1652
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 8: It's like we need to be very clear in our bilaws,

1653
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 8: like does Tom Brady now have to wait to be

1654
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 8: a second ballot because he was guilty of deflate Gate

1655
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 8: or are those things handled judiciously through the suspensions and

1656
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 8: the time that's served, like while they're playing the game,

1657
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 8: and then when we're voting for the Hall of Fame,

1658
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 8: it's purely about your resume as a Hall of Famer

1659
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 8: on the field or coaching, and we're not taking into

1660
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 8: account any personal gripes, any other off the field things

1661
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 8: or anything besides that. Or are we going to change

1662
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 8: it and say, you know what, we're going to take

1663
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 8: into account the total human being. We're going to take

1664
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 8: into account all the possible things that have happened throughout

1665
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 8: his career, and that's going to be a part of it.

1666
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 8: And I think the other thing they need to do

1667
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 8: is it'd be nice if the voters had to say,

1668
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 8: or they had to publicly release like who voted for who?

1669
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 8: Because the call thing was just bananous to me, Like

1670
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 8: he said, oh, I can't remember if I voted for

1671
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 8: build doll chucker out. It's like really like, I think

1672
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 8: that's probably something you would remember that just happened.

1673
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 2: That sounds like a fib Yeah, yeah, all right, hof

1674
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: what's your temp up there?

1675
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 5: I think today is our warm front.

1676
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 8: It's like six degrees right now, and you know the

1677
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 8: cows are not choicing because they should. They should actually

1678
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 8: have removed their tongues from being frozen to the hay

1679
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 8: pile right now.

1680
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 4: What's going on in the spring. Does that spring keep

1681
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 4: the same temp even in these cold temps? Or is

1682
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 4: it has the coldness overwhelmed even your great spring.

1683
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 8: If I had to warm up on a daylight today

1684
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 8: at the farm and I couldn't get inside, I jump

1685
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,799
Speaker 8: in the spring because it is amazing. That thing pumps

1686
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 8: out five gallons every two seconds. We tested we put

1687
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 8: a five gallon paill on it there, so two and

1688
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 8: a half gallons a second. It's just bubbling right up

1689
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 8: out of the strait of the driftless hills of Wisconsin

1690
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 8: and filling that giant spring pond. All that water is

1691
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 8: filled up and goes into the river every single day,

1692
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 8: twenty four hours.

1693
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,799
Speaker 5: It's amazing. So it's always like forty eight degrees.

1694
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 4: That's amazing, which is brisk when it's warm, but that

1695
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 4: would feel long.

1696
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 6: By the way.

1697
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 4: Half, I have to share this with you. My dad

1698
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 4: is obviously listening to the program. Shout out not Pedro,

1699
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 4: he said. When he finished his last bite of the

1700
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 4: flat iron, he didn't weep, he belched, but it was

1701
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 4: a belch of joy.

1702
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 5: That is so Paidro's that's poetic.

1703
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 8: I love it.

1704
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 3: It's one way of putting it. I love you, brother,

1705
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 3: See you, buddy.

1706
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 8: Thanks guys, love you to take care.

1707
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 2: Oh, mister Sicilian, I'm going to join us coming up

1708
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: next to to Cleveland Bruns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1709
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 11: If you take a look at what the Cleveland Browns

1710
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 11: have at their disposal right now, they have a young

1711
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 11: quarterback that is not lacking in confidence. He loves throwing

1712
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 11: the football down the field. In addition to that they've

1713
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 11: got a young running back who enjoys being the bell

1714
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 11: cow for that offense. And I think those two things

1715
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 11: have to be pertinent and priority one in a Todd

1716
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 11: Monkin offense. And you and Lamar Jackson and those guys,

1717
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 11: they did a lot of RPO stuff, They did a

1718
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 11: lot of spreading the ball on the outside. But the

1719
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 11: two things that really appealed to me was Shador standers

1720
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 11: his confidence, ability to throw the football down.

1721
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,879
Speaker 3: The field and running the football.

1722
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 11: They're gonna have to go get a real receiver number

1723
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 11: one to pair with Jerry Judy, but I love this

1724
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 11: hire already. I think Shador will really lean into this

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Speaker 11: style of offense.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad we can pull you away from it. How

1740
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 4: are you been rubbing it in lately? Pictures videos of

1741
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 4: the sun, of course, And he's like, I'm sorry, I

1742
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 4: feel like maybe this is rubbing it into sending.

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01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 6: Wait, hi, boy, Piscan, is it good? I just had

1744
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 6: a lunch at home, made a salad for myself. I

1745
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 6: got a show in forty five minutes, guys, so come on,

1746
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 6: this is a work day. And the only reason I

1747
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 6: sent Nathan a picture of the beach is because he

1748
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 6: had sent me a picture of the snow drift comb patio.

1749
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,839
Speaker 4: And I feel like those are very different.

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01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 6: And for the record, as you know, Nathan, get back

1751
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 6: this up. As soon as I sent it, I went, wow,

1752
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 6: actually that kind of I'm a jerk. I didn't mean

1753
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 6: it that way, but maybe I do. And and this

1754
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 6: would be this would be the first time ever in

1755
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 6: our long friendship that I ever actually sent something like

1756
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 6: that to you to be like, hey, let's.

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01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 4: True, buddy, Yeah, it's true. Well, where we are in

1758
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 4: the midst of one of the worst winners on record

1759
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 4: yeap for this region. So I think this is this

1760
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 4: is the time to yeah, as you'd like to say that,

1761
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 4: we want to come kick asa while you're at it.

1762
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm going to be in it for three weeks

1763
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 6: in Connecticut to the Olympics where it's right now. So

1764
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 6: I am ready. I am ready for the snow.

1765
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 4: The gold zone with the orange jacket. All right, some news, obviously,

1766
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 4: what do you what do you make of Todd Monkin,

1767
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 4: the nineteenth head coach of your Cleveland Browns.

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01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 6: It's let me let me put it this way. He

1769
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 6: just open with this, he is a damn good coach.

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01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 6: And I understand, and I've been listening to the show

1771
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 6: and I just heard the hoff. I understand that the

1772
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 6: initial reaction might be what huh, I get that. I

1773
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 6: totally get that. I could also point out that I

1774
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 6: have heard from assistant coaches from multiple teams today unsolicited

1775
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 6: saying how good of a coach he is. To me,

1776
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 6: I have I have heard from an AFC North assistant

1777
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 6: coach who said, I wish he was out of the division.

1778
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 6: So he is a good coach. I mean they had

1779
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 6: they had Tyler Huntley and in the Bears game and

1780
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 6: what was it, the Packers game, they scored seventy one

1781
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 6: points without Lamar Jackson and with Snoop Huntley. This guy

1782
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 6: can coach. You guys know Nathan, you know, I don't

1783
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 6: know Todd at all, but I could tell you that

1784
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 6: the reaction around the league is, hey, they they have

1785
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 6: a darn good coach. Now what happens on the defensive

1786
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 6: side of the ball that remains to be seen, and

1787
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 6: you know, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

1788
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 6: But he's a coach. He's a very good coach, and

1789
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 6: I think that is a huge plus.

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01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. Do you like when

1791
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 2: you ask a direct question getting a direct answer?

1792
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: Uh?

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01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've heard you don't like that.

1794
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he was in here all the time

1795
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. He's a really good dude. He's big

1796
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 2: on accountability. He's big on you ask a question, you

1797
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 2: get an answer. You might not always like it, but

1798
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: he's going to tell you the truth. I just saw

1799
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: this from Tory Smith. Might be unpopular in Baltimore, but

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01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: from the moment, but I watched him lead meetings one day.

1801
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 2: He communicates like a head coach.

1802
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 3: He does. Yeah, that's what he'd like.

1803
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: He carried himself that way here in a really brutal

1804
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: situation in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 6: Right. And I'll ad this as well. I was talking

1806
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 6: to a Ravens player today who said he loved him,

1807
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 6: just flat and loved him. So there's that. They got

1808
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 6: a respected coach and the staff means so much. The

1809
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 6: Hoffs just said that too. The staff means so much.

1810
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 6: I was in the Nate Shillhouse corner, you guys. We

1811
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,560
Speaker 6: have talked about this obviously. I got a lot of

1812
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 6: friends with the Rams. I worked there for fourteen years.

1813
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 6: I don't know Nate because he was gone already. Kind

1814
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 6: of what I got there. We overlapped one training camp

1815
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 6: and our pasts never crossed. But they love him. There

1816
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 6: they were they were pushing for him, but they also conceded.

1817
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 6: As I told you guys last week, he may not

1818
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 6: be ready. Just like Grant Yadinski. The Jacksonville people love him,

1819
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 6: but they also shrug their shoulders and go don't know

1820
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 6: if he's ready. You know that Todd Monkin is ready.

1821
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 6: You know that he could lead a room. You know

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01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 6: that he can coach. Go back to that Georgia offense. Yeah,

1823
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,839
Speaker 6: he had a lot of pieces. He had George Pickens,

1824
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 6: and he had James Cook and Samir White. He had

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01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 6: talent on that team. Tyson Campbell, by the way, was

1826
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 6: on that team on the other side of the ball.

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01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 6: He's had a lot of talent. But when handed some

1828
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 6: of the mess the Ravens have had when Lamar Jackson

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 6: was not at his best or maybe not playing, I

1830
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 6: think the results say.

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Speaker 4: A lot, certainly, and I think that's what the experience

1832
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 4: he's been a coach for thirty seven years at the

1833
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 4: college and NFL levels. I think that's that's a big

1834
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 4: part of it. And I always feel better about a

1835
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 4: guy who understands our division and what it takes to

1836
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 4: win in our divisions and he knows that. Certainly, that

1837
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 4: was time here in twenty nineteen, but the last three

1838
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 4: years being with the ball Baltimore Ravens and understanding their operation.

1839
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 4: While it will be different now with Harbaugh out, I

1840
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 4: think that's always a good thing. And clearly He's somebody

1841
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 4: that made an impression when he was here in twenty

1842
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 4: nineteen under what were you know, challenging circumstances to be fair,

1843
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 4: and now is you know, slated to be the next

1844
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 4: head coach.

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01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 6: I understand the fan perspective, and I understand that some

1846
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 6: fans may go hunt what they wanted, the young hot

1847
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 6: shot offensive mind. They tried that last time. Kevin was

1848
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 6: a very good head coach. In the first four years

1849
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 6: were very good. Obviously, then it went sideways and we

1850
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 6: could dissect what happened the last two years at another time,

1851
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 6: but clearly the team did not win enough games the

1852
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 6: last two years, and we know now the result. This

1853
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 6: is going in the other direction, which is an experience

1854
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 6: veteran head coach. I don't know if it's fair to

1855
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 6: call him a disciplinarian, but he is no nonsense. I'll

1856
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 6: tell you that. You guys know that, and I've heard

1857
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 6: that from multiple other people as well. It's I think

1858
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 6: people need to give it time. Give it time, see

1859
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 6: how it goes. Remember, as well, John Harbaugh wanted Todd

1860
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 6: Monkin to be the guy to develop Jackson Dart. Okay,

1861
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 6: the Giants who were waiting on this process. They wanted

1862
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 6: to figure out, are you coaching the Browns or you

1863
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 6: coming with us? Because if he didn't go to Bria,

1864
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,839
Speaker 6: he was going to East Rutherford to work with Jackson

1865
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 6: Dart because the big selling point of the Giants, right,

1866
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 6: we're all told, oh, it's Jackson Dart. They got their quarterback.

1867
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 6: That's why you want that job. That's why John Harbaugh

1868
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 6: chose the Giants. Well, he chose Todd Bunkin. He was

1869
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 6: going to choose Todd Bunkin to be the guy to

1870
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 6: develop Jackson Dart. That should mean something.

1871
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other thing, I mean just from a

1872
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 2: imprints on an organization standpoint, and you think about the

1873
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: a pretty big reshuffle we need on offense. He is

1874
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 2: his fingerprints are going to be all over this Andrew, Yeah,

1875
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 2: all over it. Every position, I mean, offensive line has

1876
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 2: to be remade, Weapons need to be remade.

1877
01:22:59,240 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 6: Who knows what.

1878
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 2: Happens quarterback, Like, there's a lot that has to be

1879
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 2: considered here.

1880
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 6: There is a makeover on the offensive line. You need

1881
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 6: to add skilled position guys. Clearly love what you added

1882
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 6: last year. Love and the Quinn Schewn, the Herald fan

1883
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 6: and peace. Isaiah Bond. I think We've seen it. There

1884
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 6: have been glimpses where you know it is there. You

1885
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 6: just need to develop it. You got to get a

1886
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 6: guy to get those guys the football consistently. Can it

1887
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 6: be Shador? You would have to think that the Shadoor

1888
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 6: conversation was a big part of the multiple interviews that

1889
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 6: Todd Montkin had to get this job. Andrew Berry's left

1890
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 6: the door open that Shaud Door could be the guy.

1891
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 6: But they have to do their due diligence and figure

1892
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 6: out what else is out there. This is not for

1893
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 6: fans who are saying, hey, let's go draft a quarterback.

1894
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 6: There is no quarterback at six. There is not going

1895
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 6: to be a quarterback in all likelihood at twenty four.

1896
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 6: There's a reason Aaron Rodgers may go back to the

1897
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 6: Steelers because there's no obvious quarterback answer for them. Pree

1898
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 6: picks in front of us at twenty one, So this

1899
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 6: might be a one quarterback draft at least on Thursday night.

1900
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 6: I mean, fans need to get ready for that. There

1901
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 6: is no obvious answer other than Mendosa.

1902
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 4: Right, and that sets up for the Browns Biale to

1903
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 4: get I think a very good wide receiver at pick six.

1904
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 4: Should they be so inclined and more offensive line. AI

1905
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 4: I want weapons? Oh I no offensive limit? Yeah, you

1906
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 4: know you know we were talking earlier as well. Though

1907
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 4: about Todd, I think that you know, when you come

1908
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 4: in and you take this job turning sixty first time

1909
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,799
Speaker 4: being a head coach, have been very successful on offense.

1910
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,799
Speaker 4: I think he's going to have a lot of input

1911
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 4: in the personnel situation, and I think we're going to

1912
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 4: really see his influence in this draft, don't you.

1913
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 6: Uh, you would have to think so. I mean, you

1914
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 6: always want the head coach to have a certain level

1915
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 6: of influence. You have to tell the front office in

1916
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 6: any functioning, uh organization, here are the players I want.

1917
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 6: Here are the players that I think fit are a

1918
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 6: system the best, absolutely, yeah, without a doubt.

1919
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: And you've been around these things a long time, I

1920
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 2: would imagine, especially as you've waited as long as Todd

1921
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 2: has that he has a a lock stock list of

1922
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 2: I want this. These are my five coordinators, these are

1923
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 2: my we know who the offensive line coach is going

1924
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 2: to be with Hop coming back, but this is the guys.

1925
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: These are my five receiver guys. Like he's got all

1926
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: of that stuff in spades. He's been in the league forever,

1927
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 2: like he's he's got those lists, and I would imagine

1928
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: from that perspective, this will come together pretty quickly.

1929
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,799
Speaker 3: On the offensive side, don't you think.

1930
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 6: You would have to think so. He's always had a

1931
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 6: physical run game. He always uses his tight ends. Well,

1932
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 6: he's always been multiple in his personnel. He's not lucked

1933
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 6: into one thing. He did. He did really like to

1934
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Speaker 6: use Lamar's legs. Obviously, everyone has who's called plays for

1935
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Speaker 6: Lamar since he broke in as a thirty second overall

1936
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Speaker 6: pick in twenty eighteen. I mean, I think that was

1937
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Speaker 6: maybe part of the issue down the stretch there as well.

1938
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Speaker 6: I mean, there are a lot of people that'll tell

1939
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Speaker 6: you that Lamar didn't really want to run much the

1940
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 6: last two years, one of the reasons the whole thing

1941
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 6: went sideways. But you have Derek Henry as well. You

1942
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 6: don't need to keep your quarterback running the football constantly

1943
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 6: when you have a Hall of Fame running back back there.

1944
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 6: But he is good at taking what you have and

1945
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Speaker 6: making chicken salad.

1946
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Speaker 4: Put it that way, he's been Yes, indeed, indeed, and listen,

1947
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Speaker 4: this is a team where we talked about where we

1948
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 4: need to be significantly better on offense. You had mentioned

1949
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Speaker 4: at the beginning to talk about a good football coach.

1950
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Speaker 4: I know you are very well connected around this league.

1951
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Speaker 4: You've heard from a lot of people today at various levels,

1952
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 4: coaches in about Todd, and I think that the perception

1953
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Speaker 4: in the league of this move for the Browns is

1954
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit different than the perception maybe outside

1955
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Speaker 4: and around. Would you agree with that.

1956
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, yes, without a doubt. You said it quite well. Look,

1957
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 6: there are people that might be scratching their head, going, hey,

1958
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 6: I would still go with the young guy, But in

1959
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 6: terms of the coach they're getting. No, everybody thinks Todd

1960
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 6: Monkin is a darn good head coach and that this

1961
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 6: is a good hire. Nate Schieldhouse and Great Yudinsky are

1962
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 6: not head coaches in this cycle, at least I don't

1963
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 6: think they are going to be. It does not appear

1964
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,719
Speaker 6: to be that way. Yudinsky has already gotten his little

1965
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 6: promotion or whatever it is at Jacksonville's probably head coach

1966
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 6: next year. Nate Schillhouse, I don't know what's going to

1967
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 6: shake out in terms of promotion or a title change

1968
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 6: with the Rams, but he's coming back to the Rams.

1969
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 6: I think this situation would be different. Look if if

1970
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 6: Udinsky was named head coach of the Bills and Chillhouse

1971
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 6: was named head coach of the Arizona Cardinals, and then

1972
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 6: there'd be the constant comparison obviously between Monkin and those guys.

1973
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Speaker 6: That's not going to happen this year. So if those

1974
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 6: guys were ready, there are ten openings. Those guys would

1975
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 6: have gotten a job if they were ready. Now, I

1976
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 6: think Nate, he's the one I'm closest to, is going

1977
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 6: to be a head coach one day, and I think

1978
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 6: he's probably gonna be a good head coach one day.

1979
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 6: But that day is today. The Browns went long down

1980
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 6: the road with him. That was an eight hour interview

1981
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 6: on Monday, from what I understand, and they chose to

1982
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:49,440
Speaker 6: go in this direction.

1983
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Speaker 3: The other.

1984
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Speaker 2: Really, the story in the NFL today is Bill Belichick

1985
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 2: missing the Hall of Fame. You worked for the league,

1986
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 2: obviously at the Network, and have been around the NFL

1987
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: for a very very long time. What do you make

1988
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: of this?

1989
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Speaker 6: I put it this so if you take Belichick's career

1990
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 6: post scandal, and I'm going to include deflate Gate, although

1991
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 6: people dismiss it, but from the day that the punishment

1992
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 6: was handed out for to flake Gate, and Brady missed

1993
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:24,480
Speaker 6: the first four games of the subsequent season. Bill Belichick

1994
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 6: has one hundred career victories, three trips to the super Bowl,

1995
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 6: and two Lombardi Trophies. That career quote unquote post scandal,

1996
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 6: as it is, Merrit's considered merits being in the Hall

1997
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 6: of Fame. If you just take him from that day forward,

1998
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 6: he is a Hall of Famer and maybe even first

1999
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 6: bout more career wins from that day forward than Bill

2000
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 6: Walsh in his career, if you want to put it

2001
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 6: into that context, Bill Walsh is, well, maybe not with

2002
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 6: the postseason. Bill's probably a couple of past him with

2003
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 6: it when you consider the postseason wins as well. But

2004
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 6: it's Bill Walsh's career post scandals that's a Hall of Famer.

2005
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 6: I also understand when people go he cheated. He got

2006
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 6: caught cheating twice period. He did. But he's a Hall

2007
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 6: of Famer and he should be in on his first ballot.

2008
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Speaker 4: Eddie Groro would say, if you ain't cheating, you ain't

2009
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Speaker 4: try it.

2010
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 3: So wou Nascar.

2011
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just one of those things I hate that

2012
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,799
Speaker 2: it's gonna kind of be a cloud over the process

2013
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 2: this year, buddy, Like when that class goes in, of

2014
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 2: course it is enshrinement this summer, like it's all anyone's

2015
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 2: going to be asked. And I hate that for those

2016
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 2: guys who go in because that shouldn't be something that

2017
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,480
Speaker 2: they have to deal with, but they're gonna.

2018
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Speaker 6: We're also denied the glorious awkwardness of he and Craft

2019
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Speaker 6: going in the same year.

2020
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Speaker 4: M Yes, yes, within the there would be some awkwardness,

2021
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 4: but at the same time, like you can't tell the

2022
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 4: story of the NFL without the two of them, and

2023
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 4: so I think that that is certainly fine. I think

2024
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 4: anybody who voted against them should be out, That's my opinion.

2025
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Speaker 4: Take them out, give some new people votes. Like for example,

2026
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 4: if there's anybody who didn't put you on their ballot

2027
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 4: for the Orange Jacket gone, I don't know that it.

2028
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 6: Came to a ballot. I think it might have been, Hey,

2029
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Speaker 6: you made a nice donation the last couple of years.

2030
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 4: Would you like to know oho oh bricading out?

2031
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,879
Speaker 3: My god from that beach view in Malibu.

2032
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 6: When I say nice donation, I mean like, would you

2033
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 6: like to round up on the order on your order

2034
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 6: of your hooded sweatshirts. Would you like to round up

2035
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 6: and give it to the students?

2036
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 3: Yes, make us feel good. What's what's your temp out there? Brother?

2037
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 3: What give you your temp today?

2038
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Speaker 6: Guys? I went out to get a cup of coffee

2039
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 6: this morning in forty nine degrees. I want you to

2040
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 6: know it is now.

2041
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 3: Up to Sana to goose weather for you, tough.

2042
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Speaker 6: It's now up to sixty, but it was.

2043
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Speaker 2: That's like fifty and your pupper jacket ready. Buddy good talking,

2044
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Speaker 2: he was always my friend.

2045
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Speaker 6: Keep smiles on your faces, gentlemen.

2046
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