1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: The build up to what is about to unfold, and 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: for all the reasons we've already discussed, I just it's 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: just almost too much to comprehend. I got thoughts in 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: my head, can't get them Joan nothing what I'm thinking about. 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Thoughts in my head, can't get them out. Not think 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about? Hello with this zilence, Chip knuck 7 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: back for another fire Drill podcast. It is Masters Week, 8 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: best week of the year. Too many not all. Um 9 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: It's been quite a build up. It's always a long 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: preamble from the last Major until the Masters. This year 11 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: was extremely um action packed with all the all the 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: subplots and everything else. So here to unpack it all 13 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: at Michael Bamberger, Matt Janella, gents, thanks thanks for doing 14 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: this pleasure. I mean, come on, we're talking to the master. 15 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like when I lived in the Northeast. 16 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: This sort of was the week in which you allowed 17 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: yourself to think that spring was about to spring. You 18 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was this was when we thought, 19 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: like when we got back from covering one of them, 20 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: you know how many Masters have we been going to this? 21 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: That was when you could start playing golf again. So 22 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: there's that I've generally just already build that excitement. But 23 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: also I just think the Major, the current state of 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: the game, the majors are even more major, and the 25 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Masters has always been an amazing major. And now it's 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: even the theater about what's about to unfold. It is 27 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: just I just can't wait. Well, now it starts a 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: week early with you know, with the Annua, which was 29 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: must watch this year with Rose, and people are still 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: debating whether should have laid up or not on the 31 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: fifteenth hole. It's like the Master now, Allan, Allan, Allan, Yes, 32 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: they're not debating. Let's yeah, well, okay, let's just so. 33 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's only one person, maybe two, 34 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: the dad and the and the winner for he didn't. 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: I didn't hate it. She was playing to win. It's 36 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: like a birdie there and the tournament's over and like 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: she was trying to go. She was going for the juggular. 38 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was cool. But Matt, Matt, that's why 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: our distinguished colleague was a cartboy, not a caddy. At 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: the Pebble Beach legs, though there aren't really there are 41 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: too many water hazards there. Mother is a big lake 42 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: left of eighteen. I don't see Allan, it's an absolute layout. Well. 43 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: One of the great pleasures of watching the UH the 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: Augusta Nasheal Women's Amateur was Bones visit. You could hear 45 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: his discomfort. He was just dying to take the bag 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: off of Rosing's father's shoulder and get in there. He 47 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: was so bothered by the whole thing. The one thing, 48 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: the one thing I miss about Bones being back on 49 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:03,279 Speaker 1: JT's bag is Bones the broadcaster, the ouncer, the color commentator. 50 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: I just I miss him well, especially anything Augusta related. 51 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's so authoritative on the piets and anything 52 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: but the masters. He takes now he has seen a 53 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: lot of it in his life, but he takes bad 54 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: course management personally. So like if Jean Vandevelt does something, 55 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: he's still bad at Jean Vandebilt. It's like John Vandeville's 56 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: trying his best, but Bones can't see it though. And again, 57 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Alan and I were both standing there in two thousand 58 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: and six in the eighteenth fairway, and the one thing 59 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: I noticed is Bones was just not They just were 60 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: not talking to each other. They just were not having 61 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: any conversation. So yes, he had taken it personally that 62 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Phil was doing what Phil was doing. That's great. Well, yeah, 63 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: so it's amazing. How and we've talked about this before, 64 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: Michael and I how just the Masters used to be 65 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: this small invitational and it was an important tournament, but 66 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: there was an intimacy and it was, uh, you felt 67 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: like you were guests of this little club. And now 68 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: the campus has become supersized. It's kind of like this 69 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: golf Disneyland. And and now Master's Week. I mean even 70 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Sunday you have we're taping Sunday evening here. It's you 71 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: have the drive chip and putt. You have all a 72 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: lot of players are starting to begin their Masters preps, 73 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: including Tiger walked around with some wedges and a putter 74 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: as he has did back in twenty nineteen late on 75 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, and you have bernhard Longer hitting balls on 76 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: the rains next to kids warming up for the drive, 77 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: chip and putt. Like there's this this intermixing of the 78 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: events and the cultures of it all is it's a 79 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: fascinating part of the preamble that didn't even exist, you know, 80 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: four or five years ago. So Master's Week just gets 81 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger, just just like the Augusta National Footprint. Well, 82 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: we're here, we are. I should take a second, we 83 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: should take a second and talk sponsorship really quickly, because 84 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about drive, chip and putt and while you're 85 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: talking about a lot of transcendent eyes coming to the 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: to the game this week, this weekend, this upcoming week 87 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: and weekend. And I finally have the definitive answer, by 88 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: the way to a question in which I know we 89 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: get a lot. If someone is new to the game, men, 90 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: women or children and they want to look into buying 91 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: a set of clubs, the answer now is Robin Golf 92 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: Robin Goolf dot com. These people, it's a family owned business. 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: They make these really sleek, cool looking sets of clubs 94 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: for kids and beginners, men and women. This is a 95 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: bit of a gateway solution from like no, you know 96 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: clubs to an actual set of clubs before you maybe 97 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: get fit for a set of clubs. Go now to 98 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: Robin Goolf dot com. We got Mother's Day coming up, 99 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: We got Father's Day coming up. Kids are getting out 100 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: of school soon. Fire Pit fifteen gets you fifteen percent 101 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: off promo code fire Pit fifteen Robin Golf guys excited 102 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: to have them be a part of what we're doing. 103 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: And um, their sets are on the way from my 104 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: uh son and daughter and wife, and I look forward 105 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: to breaking them in. Matt. How how many clubs do 106 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: they want you to start with your you're a ten 107 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: year old kid, you're athletic, but you're new to golf 108 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: like your son. How many how many clubs do they 109 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: want in the best seven or nine? Seven to nine? 110 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: I think is good. A couple, you know, a couple 111 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: a driver and maybe a hybrid and like a five wood, 112 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, some sort of you know those three clubs 113 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: a putter obviously, and then like a five and a 114 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: seven iron or a wedge you know, from you know, 115 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: seven to nine clubs essentially nice that's what Michael plays now. 116 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: An yeah, John Ashley, you know, I mean one of 117 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: the great things about you know about the Goat and 118 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: where my family plays golf is they have the Kid's course, 119 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: they have the Goat Teas, they have a forty eighteen 120 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: hole golf course. They can climb the ladder literally in 121 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: one place, and um, and they're gonna be doing using 122 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: it rob They're gonna be doing it using Robin golf clubs, 123 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: So that's cool. We should note that Robin Golf is 124 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: going to be sponsoring everything we do this this week. 125 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Michael and I will be typing regularly pretty much every day. 126 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: We'll be podcasting throughout the week. I think we're gonna 127 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: wrangle Jeff Ogilvie for a few of those pods. So 128 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: thanks for Robin Golf for the sponsorship. So let's let's 129 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: look ahead to this this Master's there's there's so many 130 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: things percolating, not least you know, brooks Keepka's now one 131 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: Tuova's last six starts. How much weight do we put 132 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: on that because they're on live unknown? You know this, 133 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: this master has become such an important yardstick for all 134 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: those guys who went to the other tour, and you know, 135 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: they're they're sort of playing for their credibility, to prove 136 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: that they still got it, and all the slings and 137 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: arrows about exhibition golf and carts and shotguns, and I 138 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: think they're going to compete with quite an intensity. But 139 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 1: other things, you know, Rory looking for the mythical green jacket. 140 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: You've got this battle for number one, Scheffler trying to 141 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: go back to back, You've got the like of Ram 142 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: and other people who are trying to cement their standing 143 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: as at the top of the game. I mean, Michael, 144 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: what as you look atter this masters, what are you 145 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: most keenly interested in? What? What are you most excited about? Well, 146 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: I'll answer for the broad public for us, because there's 147 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: such interest in Rory because he's been so out in front. 148 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: You know, Alan, you have alluded to this several times 149 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: and it's taken me a while to Ashley grasp but 150 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: that Rory mclroy really is the biggest name in golf 151 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: right now. He's the only person this week who can 152 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: complete the career Grand Slam and um, and I think 153 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: they'll be He's been playing some great golf, he hasn't 154 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: won a major and forever, so I think going in that, 155 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, for people who are not falling golf keenly 156 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: but followed to some degree, people want to know ken 157 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: this guy closed the deal? He can he win the 158 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: career Grand Slam? Um. Think about the last shot that 159 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: Rory hit at Augusta Nashville, that whole out from the 160 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: bunker are on Sunday afternoon. You got him the second 161 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: place last year, which is his best finish, and he's 162 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: he's actually been a top ten machine at Augusta that 163 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: just a lot of them have felt a little backdoor 164 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: ish and he hasn't really been in the thick of it. 165 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: But across tenny two holes, he tends to shoot a 166 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: score that puts him not not that far from from 167 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: the top. So it's just can you get incrementally better? 168 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: Can he tighten it up? He's had played a lot 169 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: of mediocre first rounds. Can he got off to a 170 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: hot start? Like? But I agree, I mean all eyes 171 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: on Rory Um. There's also got him Tiger Woods. We 172 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: haven't seen him with a golf club in his hand 173 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: for a little while, and he's he's always a huge interest. 174 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: If there's there's any course where he where he turns 175 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: into a chess match and and Tiger can can just 176 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: rely on his knowledge and his magic hands and his 177 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: his his ability to think his way around a golf course. 178 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you would think would be Augusta National. What 179 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: about you, Matt, what are you looking forward to? I 180 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: mean that the storylines are just it's endless. It's endless. 181 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: I can't believe you know, I'm just right, Cam Smith. 182 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: You know where is he at you know, yeah, Brooks 183 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: is one thing, but like Cam Smith and what he's 184 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: done the last couple of years in the big venues, 185 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: in stages, his short game, and what he did at 186 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: the old course and where I think he kind of 187 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: sits in the game of golf with a real like 188 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: I don't really give a shit kind of an attitude 189 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: is very dangerous and uh and this golf course obviously 190 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: suits him. You got guys like Jason Day, Adam Scott, 191 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: justin Rose. They've shown a pulse. They love this golf course. 192 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: It seems to like them. And obviously Patrick Reid, Rory Brooks. 193 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you know Scheffler by the way, I mean, like, 194 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: you know, is he gonna is he gonna defend? I 195 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: mean Xander Schoffleigh here is playing really good, feels really confident, 196 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: really likes this golf course, it likes him. I mean, 197 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: it's it's just endless. And again to me, the majors 198 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: have become more major, and I just I can't wait 199 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: to consume all of this what's about to unfold. I 200 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: agree with that the major's have become more major, and 201 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: then this particular major is more major yet because we 202 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: didn't really have much of a president's scup. So since 203 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: the last round of an incredible British Open at the 204 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: Old Course of the three of us were there for 205 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: that cam Smith shooting that thirty coming home to beat 206 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Rory McElroy who was the sixty three whole leader. This 207 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: particular major with live versus the PGA Tour, you know, 208 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: the cam Smith's versus the Rory mcelroys has just so 209 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: much extra emotion to it. To use Allan's word, it's fraught. Okay, 210 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna retire that word for the short term. Thank 211 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: you for pointing that out. I mean, the most anticipated 212 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: dinner in the history of golf. No, it's not the 213 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: Wednesday Night Golf Writers Awards ceremony. It's it's Tuesday night, 214 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: the Champions Dinner, you know, which is kind of this 215 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: tired old tradition, like I really don't care who serves what. 216 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 1: Year to year it's I just rolled my eyes. But 217 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: this year it's like it's it's like a mid East 218 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: Piece summit or something, and um, you you bring all 219 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: these wild cards together, from Gary Player to Bubba Wattson 220 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: to Phil Mickelson like anything, if you if you tell 221 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: me on Wednesday morning, someone got their eyes stabbed out 222 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: over dessert. I would, I will totally believe that. I mean, 223 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: anything could happen there despite there's this this you know, 224 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: very thin veneer of southern gentility. I mean it's a 225 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: lot of egos, it's a lot of bitterness, it's a 226 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: lot of everything. So who knows what's going to happen. 227 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: I can you know, look at JP McManus program in 228 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: Ireland had a dare. There was it was there was 229 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: some tension, it was there was some concern they'll live 230 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: players and and and tour players were all going to 231 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: be under one roof, but on behalf of J. P 232 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: McManus and what he had done and what you know, 233 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: sort of the the genteel sort of nature of this event, 234 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: there was no problem. And I think if you take 235 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: a Austin National, a champions dinner, everyone's got a green 236 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: jacket on and you got Ben Crenshaw leading the way, 237 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: and it is what it is like. I just I 238 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: just don't I don't see anybody being the one. You know, 239 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's like a company party. You want to 240 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: show up late, you want to leave early, and you 241 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: don't want to be the one they're talking about the 242 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 1: next day, and I just don't think anybody wants to 243 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: be the one that they're talking about the next day 244 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: on the on that Wednesday. I agree and I disagree, Matt. 245 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: I agree on the surface that will happen. Everyone will 246 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: apply to each other, even though Bubba Gary Player especially 247 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: fill to a lesser degree. They are half nut jobs, 248 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: and you don't know what's going to come out of 249 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: their mouth on any given day. But then there's what 250 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: you know. Then it's like everything in life, there's what's 251 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: being said, and then there's what's not being said, and 252 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: what's not being said will be in their minds. So 253 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: you don't really have the camaraderie, you don't really have 254 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: the regaling of the stories. You might be going through 255 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: the motions of it, but I mean you need a 256 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: John Updike level novelist to really sort through it all 257 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: and tell us what's really going on. I think when 258 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: we're really going to see the tension of the two 259 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: line dinner show up is Sunday night, if it's cam 260 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: Smith versus Rory again. And then knowing these yahoo's who 261 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, they like to say how genteel the patrons 262 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: are there but really they're a bunch of redneck yahoo's. 263 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: They might go crazy on Sunday if it's if it's 264 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: if it's let's say it's Justin Thomas or you know, 265 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: any any red meat American, you know, Jordan Spieth versus 266 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Patrick Read or any of the of the livesters. I 267 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: think it'll be a nutty scene on some I think 268 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: you see something like we've never seen before, a gustinessh Well, 269 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: you know Ian famously, Ian Wosenham got heckled in Amen 270 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: Corner of the Year he won and that fired him up, 271 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: and you know that was kind of the height of 272 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: when all the Europeans were winning the Masters every year 273 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: and there was a sort of low okey xenophobia. It 274 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: will be fascinating. I mean, I think you both are 275 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: right that Ben Crenshaw's presidence. You have Jack there, you 276 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: have Fred Ridley, who um is like the school principle. 277 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: So I think I think it'll be okay. But we 278 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: all know a guy named James P. Harry. He was 279 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: he was legendary editor at Sports Illustrate, and he coined 280 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you coined it. He introduced me 281 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: to the term smile fuck and they all use that 282 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: a lot of talking about the Masters and Augusta National 283 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: folks like they smile fuck you there they pre hear 284 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: to be like nice and and accommodating, but then then 285 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: in the end you never get your way and you 286 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: get pushed around. Like so it's just gonna be it's 287 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a fun, fun bit that everyone's gonna be 288 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: focused on and smile fuck or also known as blessed 289 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: that bless your heart like that it's other. Oh and 290 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: then there's some one McCallum, you just love love the death. 291 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: But and then whatever came after the butt was the 292 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: guy that had the chance. Uh yeah, just a quick 293 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: just a quick smile. Fuck Uh. When Wosom was playing 294 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: that fourth round, his playing partner was Tom Watson. And 295 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: Tom Watson, you know, it really was. It was a 296 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: great playing partner that day. And I think really from 297 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: from it was just by the book, he was straight, 298 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: kind of like what Tiger was. Later. Um, Tiger may 299 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: have actually had more warmth than Tom Watson, which is 300 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: really saying something, but I digress. So Watson said to Woosom, 301 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,479 Speaker 1: just do what Don January used to do in these situations, 302 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: just not and say fuck you, Fuck you very much, 303 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: Fuck you very much. You got him through that that round. 304 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: This podcast has escalated quickly. Um, But to talk about 305 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, poseic golf matters. You know, when we talked 306 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: about who who's a favorite this week? I mean, unfortunately, 307 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: if you've looked at the forecast, there's a lot of 308 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: rains supposed to start falling. So a guy like Cam Smith, 309 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: if it's firm and fast and crispy, uh, that that 310 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: sets up the short game magic that if it if 311 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: it plays long and soft, then of course we all 312 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: know that favors a guy like Rory and or Brooks 313 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: and some of the bombers. And so the weather August 314 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: is always volatile this week and I don't put too 315 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: much stock into the forecast four days out, but as 316 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: of this moment, it looks, it looks a little looks 317 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: a little grim. So um, you know, oh, Patrick read 318 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: another guy who's gonna be at that dinner on Tuesday 319 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: night who's a little unpredictable. So you know, when when 320 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: when the course is really firm, guys like Reid and 321 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: Cam Smith I think go to the front ranks. But um, 322 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: if it's playing, if it's playing in a different different 323 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: way than they lose a lot of their advantage. And 324 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: we should also mentioned the thirteenth hole, which is m 325 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: which is going to be a huge talking point. And 326 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: I was, I was thinking about this on the flight. 327 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: It's like, I almost think that the scoring average is 328 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: gonna go down because more guys are going to wind 329 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: up laying up and you know, from one hundred yards, 330 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna knock it on the green, either you make 331 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: the put or you don't. I think there'll be a 332 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: lot fives, whereas going for it introduces the six and 333 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: the seven, and I think, if if you know, that's 334 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: something that we're all going to watch closely to see 335 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: how that whole plays out, because the last thing you 336 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: want is for it to turn into one hundred yard 337 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: Part three, which it very well could if it's playing 338 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: soft and I'm playing long. So that's another subplot to 339 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. Well. Scheffler talked about it. You know, 340 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: when you go back into that tunnel to hit that 341 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: t shot. He could hit a three wood before and 342 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: had an easier time drawing his three wood. He has 343 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: a harder time drawing the driver like he does the 344 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: three wood, So he's just going to hit driver out 345 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: straight and just try to draw it as much as 346 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: he can have that, you know, next shot in I 347 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: would agree with you Alan that I think the scoring 348 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: average may actually go down even if they're hitting, even 349 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: if they have more yardage into that hole as an 350 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: approach shot, because there's just going to be less people 351 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: going forward and playing to that their magic yardage with 352 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: the eighty one hundred or whatever that number is, and 353 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: just getting a little more specific on the pin, and 354 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: maybe there will be more birdies, less eagles, and a 355 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: lot more parts less bogies. I was surprised to read 356 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: the final accounting is only thirty five yards longer. I 357 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: thought it was going to be lengthened, just given what 358 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: they were doing there and how much land they have. 359 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: I believe Matt, you've seen it much more recently than own, 360 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: or I would have thought you could go much farther back, 361 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: and I thought they would go much farther back. Well, 362 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: it looks way back there, as Scheffler told me, it's 363 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: way back there, but you know, I think thirty five, 364 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: maybe thirty five yards back from where they had tipped 365 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: it out. That's still that's still a big difference when 366 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about that specific corner and fairway run out 367 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: and trying to hit that hit that burn as berm 368 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: as you're trying to like get that as he said, 369 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: I'll start using the land a little more to accentuate 370 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: sort of any kind of any kind of draw to 371 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: his driver, which which he has a hard time doing. 372 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: But um, you know, it just looks just like eighteen, 373 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: just like fourteen, just like seventeen every time, you know, 374 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: just like five. And when you look back, you're like, 375 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 1: that just seems so far back there. I can't believe 376 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: the distance they're playing, you know, different from from members 377 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: tease to the back teas to your point in your article. 378 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, you just dropped two pretty incredible articles on 379 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: fire pick collective dot com Michael and the and the 380 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: rollback article again is you know, I know we kind 381 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: of have see it differently. Um, but I thought, you 382 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: know that some of the points you made are are 383 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: are valid and in terms of the way the game 384 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: is supposed to be played, I just you know, I 385 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: just question why just the ball, why not the club? 386 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: Why not the loft of the club, why not you know, 387 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: why not you know, from an agronomy standpoint, why not 388 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: have the fairways be a little longer instead of you know, 389 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: tighten fat. I mean, I just I think there's so 390 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: many other different versions of what could also take place 391 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: to sort of account for length. So that's it, I mean, 392 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: so one, and that that story you wrote, Michael got 393 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of engagement. I mean, when I tweeted, 394 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: I said, it's it's so nice in these contentious times 395 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: of you know, Michael Bamberger's thoughtful, measured takes on these 396 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: issues and which I wholeheartedly endorsed. But one comment I 397 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: thought was interesting. A guy said, well, why do you 398 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: why do we want to go backwards? You know, every 399 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: other sport evolves. That's true, the players do, but the 400 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: playing fields don't. Basketball courts same side. It's always been, 401 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, baseball diamonds and and ballparks are pretty much 402 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: the same as they've always been. Like the golf course. 403 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: Because of the way the players play it, the golf 404 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: courses have totally changed. And so this again, and you know, 405 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: we saw this with the the ANUA. That's one of 406 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: the delights of that event is that it's the old 407 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: club values like what made Rosing second shot on fifteen 408 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: so fascinating which she had. She was hitting lumber right 409 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: like I mean, Sergio and others hit eight or you 410 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: know when Sergio was sitting those great shots in the 411 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: fifteen the year he when he was in eight iron, 412 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: and a professional golfer with an eight iron has a 413 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: much tighter dispersion. There's not that much danger. It's coming 414 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: in so high and it's going to hold that green. 415 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: But a hybrid things can get wonky, and and so 416 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: that that's what's cool is it's it's about bringing back 417 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: the sense of something something could go terribly wrong here, 418 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: and that just doesn't happen with short irons at often. 419 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean every now and then Guy Whood a truly 420 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: horrendous shot. But when you get the long clubs, I mean, 421 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: and you and I were talking about the soft line 422 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 1: that that shot that rose was reminiscent of sev by 423 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: Asteros in eighty six. You know, he save you should 424 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: have won that year instead of Jack. But he hit 425 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: this sniper into the pond at fifteen and he pretty 426 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: much never recovered right that that that one shot haunted 427 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: him forever and led him down this path of changing 428 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: his swing. And so but he had a four iron 429 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: and you know with the four iron things can go bad. 430 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: He give Zevya nine iron, He's probably gonnknock it on 431 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: the green. So anyway, we've we've had the ball debate. 432 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: But it will be interesting to see how it all 433 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: plays out this year. There'll be so much scrutiny on 434 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: that one hole and just how the course plays in general, 435 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: because it's the one yardstick we have which they always 436 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: go back the same place. Just two quick notes on fifteen. 437 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: In the annals of fifteen, Francisco Molinari's played there is 438 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: one of the biggest disasters ever and doesn't get talked 439 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: about it enough because he blunked it in the water 440 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: on twelve. He still is in complete position to at 441 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: least playoff, if not flat out. When that tournament Tiger's 442 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: leak in oil but really not hitting quality shots, and 443 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: he makes an absolutely inexplicable lay up shot and an 444 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: inexplicable third shot that leads leads to a double. So 445 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: it really nutty. Nutty things can happen on par fives 446 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: when guys think they can reach and they camp, and 447 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: it's Riese Jones and Riese's father, Robert Trent Jones. This 448 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: guy put those water hazards in really made him what 449 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: they are today. You know, it's not quite accurate. And 450 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: say the course that McKenzie and Jones intend abuse. They 451 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: didn't know that the water, the water hazards are going 452 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: to come in so Penal, but they have and they're 453 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: really do define the course unless it's driver eight iron 454 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: like it was for Tiger on thirteen, the last time 455 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: he won, just to the point on thirteen going thirty 456 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: five back. I don't you guys might know. I've never 457 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: really made a study of this. I'm sure if you 458 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: just watch the TV enough TV, you know how many 459 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: guys you're hitting three wood at five ten versus now 460 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: we'll hit driver at five thirty five. They'll bomb it 461 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: password that three wood is yeah, Now Shuffler can't turn 462 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: it over and then he's chipping out from the woods 463 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: and he'll lay up and then he'll he'll still have 464 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: a put for four. But a lot of guys will 465 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: hit that wide fairway. They will use that bank. Now 466 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: with driver a little lower, a little hotter, a little 467 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: more down the hill, they still might. I don't. I 468 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: guess what I'm trying to say is now AUGUSTA National 469 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: Figures out everything, but I'm not sure they. Of course, 470 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: the whole will actually play even longer if i've what 471 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: thirty five it's about an angle, though, I think it's 472 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: it's really about by backing them up and and and 473 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: having it have to the ball have to be going 474 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: so straight for so long before it can actually start turning. 475 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: I think that's actually that that that angle, that's what's 476 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: going to be the biggest factor on getting it around 477 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: that corner. To me, that's that's my sense of of 478 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: from a strategic standpoint, is if you're hitting, if you're 479 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: hitting a draw, if you're not able to sort of 480 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: sling it out and and go wide right because you're 481 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: in that back the further back that you're in a tunnel, 482 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: so you have a lot of wigg can't sling it, 483 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: You can't hit a big hook. That's why, right, that's 484 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: why Fred used to have his feet outside the tea 485 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: box and and and hit the through it as hard 486 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: as he could with actual hook, which was neat to see. 487 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: But here's a guy who will love it, Bubba, Bubba, 488 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: send up there and hit the slice you've ever seen 489 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: in your life. Now, let me think slice for him 490 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: as a hook for us. Yes, yeah, yeah, and that'll 491 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: will too, and that's a that's a little you know, 492 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: it's very insidery. But um, the casual fan bride doesn't 493 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: know that with the modern equipment, guys on the top 494 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: players fade their drivers way more than they draw them. 495 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: It just it's just it just is the the shot 496 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 1: shape that that that the technology promotes low spin. It's 497 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: just easier to kind of hit a little bleeding fade 498 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: than it is a hard draw. And so I mean 499 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: DJ only plays a fade, Brooks only plays a fade, 500 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: so that that adds a whole other layer of intrigue 501 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: into that hole. And so um yeah, it's it's rice 502 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: and d right soon as you sham boat for seventy two. 503 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: So wingfoot never saw him hit a hook shot. Yeah, 504 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: as hard he hit as hard as you can hold 505 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: on for dear life. Yeah. So Tiger wenty one and two, 506 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: thy nineteen, no hook shots, no drush, yeah, yeah, yeah, 507 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: it's um. So except for that that second shot on 508 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: fifteen on Sunday, that was five iron, that was gorgeous, 509 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: and that thing true four yards it was. But they 510 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: can all job mid irons. Yeah. Yeah, So this is 511 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: what's so great about the Masters is we all have 512 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: such an attachment to the golf course and we know 513 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: it so intimately. I mean, if you ask me to 514 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: describe the fifteenth hole wingfoot, I would struggle for a while. 515 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: I might get there eventually, but the fifteenth hole at 516 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: I guess the National Every golf fan can picture it. 517 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: They know the history, they know the lore, they know 518 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: who's won and lost a tournament there, and it's just 519 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: what makes this week so much fun having, you know, 520 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: having been there fairly recently, I walked away with so 521 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: much respect and admiration for what takes place at that level, 522 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: for those players to win that golf tournament at that course, 523 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: with those pins and those green speeds, you know, at 524 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: that length, I can't believe how unsettling that golf course 525 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: is when you're trying trying to hit approach shots, you know, 526 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: chips around the green, puts for that matter. You know 527 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: it from a from a driving standpoint, you know you're 528 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to sort of at some point you're 529 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: gonna have to move the ball, you know, and it 530 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: and it helps if you hit a high, high draw 531 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: or a if you're a lefty, you know, big high cut, 532 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: but you've got to you also got to hit it straight, 533 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: you got to hit it accurate. The greens within those greens, 534 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: to me is what is unlike almost any any you know, 535 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: Royal Melbourne, maybe I would take this to me, is 536 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: just the precision and demand for creativity. You understand why Tiger, 537 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: why Phil, Why Zach Johnson or or or Mike Weir 538 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: or you just you understand why these guys, Bubba, why 539 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: they've why have they've won it this golf course. It 540 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: takes such a different style to be great at this 541 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: at Augusta National. And it's why I think we generally 542 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: have these incredible leaderboards come Sunday as people are firing 543 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: on all cylinders. I just it's the golf course is 544 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: something unlike anything you know in the world. And I 545 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: would I would add to that, man agree with all 546 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: of that. I don't know how anyone who's ever been 547 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: there appreciates golfers watched it closely couldn't agree with that. 548 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: I would add to that. Green side chipping, green side 549 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: shipping is harder there than anywhere. Pitch shots over those traps. 550 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: You got no grass underneath your golf ball, and extremely 551 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: and I don't think people realize the undulation. I know 552 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: even as a member of you know, outside the ropes, 553 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: as a patron walking around, you go down to the 554 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: tenth hole until you actually stand below the tenth green. 555 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: If you're trying to chip up to a back pin 556 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: on ten, that elevation is so much you can't see anything. 557 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: It's you're so far down. It's like fifteen t twenty 558 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: feet down below the green. You don't realize what a 559 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: false front that I walked. Again, I am in awe 560 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: of what I have now seen over the years at 561 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: that golf course. For the players who are playing well, 562 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: shoot sixty five sixty five at Augusta on those conditions 563 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: is just like that's it identifies. It just identifies the 564 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: best player. And I always will and I and I 565 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: and on thirteen and in your article, Michael, you talk about, oh, 566 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: there's only one real part five. But I also think 567 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: that the reason why Augusta is so compelling is because 568 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of half pars, a lot of four 569 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: and a halfs, a lot of three and a halfs 570 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: like thirteen. Is that I mean, sorry, three is a 571 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: three and a half. I mean that the halfs, the 572 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: half side. The only thing I hope they don't do 573 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: to thirteen is make it not a half. Like the 574 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: worst thing they could do to fifteen is make it 575 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: not apart four and a half like. That's why it's 576 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: so compelling to me, that temptation, and that's what I 577 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: think the golf course is filled with is half pars. 578 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: Five is a part five is a part four and 579 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: a half. Great that also that volatility is what it yields, 580 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: and that's why we love this venue more than almost 581 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: any very very well said. I completely agree with that. 582 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: I've heard Phil talk about this, and you know he 583 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: does some some design work, and he says, I want 584 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: on any course, I want the hard holes to be 585 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: really hard. I want the easy holes to be really easy. 586 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: And that's where you get a lot of action. And 587 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: the Augusta National is the quintessence of that. I mean 588 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: all on that basis. Why was it complaining about the 589 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: long part three at Marian so three and a half, 590 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: So three and a half for the whole field. Why 591 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't be a three and a half for him? Well, yeah, 592 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: although Mike Dave because the wind switch. Mike Davis afterwards said, yeah, 593 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: maybe it was too far it's an outdoor sports has 594 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: been noted many times, but no, so yeah, now I 595 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: guess it's cool and just you know, for those of 596 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: us in the typing trade and really anyone who's inside 597 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: the gates. I mean, it's such a gathering. You know, 598 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: everybody's there, not only the players, every agent, every family member, 599 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: every power broker, every member of the golf establishment, um. 600 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: And there's just an energy around that too. Especially you 601 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: know last year in the run up to Live Golf's launched, 602 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: it was you could it was pulsating. There's a lot 603 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: of meetings going on off campus that helped define who 604 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: was going to stay and who's gonna go. And and 605 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: this year, you know, there's everyone who sits on the 606 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: board of the World Ranking, um, you know, governing body. 607 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: They're all gonna be there, like there's gonna be some 608 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: quiet conversations and uh you name it, like there's it's 609 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: just it's the one week that nobody ever misses in 610 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: the golf world. And so uh and then there's all 611 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: the parties and the dinners every night, there's all the 612 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: schmoozing around the tree. Like I do look forward to 613 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: the Masters, just from an interpersonal standpoint, everyone is there 614 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: and you can get a lot of work done, and 615 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: you can see people you might only see once or 616 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: twice a year. And I was trying to explain to 617 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: someone who's not really in the golf why why this 618 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: is such a big week, and it's not. It's an 619 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: incredible tournament golf course, we know that, but a lot 620 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: of it. There's a lot more that goes into the 621 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: week for those those who do this for a living, 622 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: and that's what just makes it extra fun. I think 623 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm unfortunately not going to be able to be there. 624 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be off in Brewster, Washington 625 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: and gamble Sands with David Kidd, which is going to 626 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: be amazing in itself. But I'll be back on Friday night. 627 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: And so the question Saturday the Masters at goat Hill Park, 628 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: It's it's this, It's the Saturday Masters. You play for 629 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: sort of a modified green jacket on Sunday. I've been 630 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: invited to a couple of parties, Oh Masters Sunday, and 631 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: I've said, there's no chance I'm going to a party 632 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday. You need to I need to be on 633 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: my sofa sort of maybe close you know inner circle 634 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: family members. You have to hear everything, you have to 635 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: see every shot. You got to lock in to what 636 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: you gotta lock in. So and I'll be well, you know, 637 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: you know you guys, I mean you guys. This is 638 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: what you do. This is your thing. You know. I 639 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: can't wait to read all that you read write. I 640 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear all that you say, you know, 641 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: especially Ogilvie's perspectives obviously are cherished. But I am gonna do. 642 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: I just can't wait to be on my sofa on Sunday, 643 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, hearing everything I've I've said, no, no, no, 644 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: no party like having a party on Sunday. The Masters 645 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: mean you don't. It means you don't really actually care. 646 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: Doesn't make sense to me at all, do you, Michael, 647 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: do you have a favorite Master as you've covered, because 648 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: what was your first one? It was in the eighties, right, No, 649 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: it was late, very late ninety six. No, what we're there, 650 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah it was it was. I never got there for 651 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: the mPire. I never went for the in Car. I 652 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: don't think I ever went. I went. I went two 653 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: of us to to play it, luckily enough, but no, 654 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: I never cover one until ninety six so that's why 655 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm barely into the parking. Now, how do you get 656 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: a parking Oh, you don't even get that thing anymore. 657 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: But anyway, no, no, I've only started going forty. You 658 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: gotta get to forty masters and then then they give 659 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: you a piece of the Eisenhower Tree. You get little 660 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: plaque and you get your own parking place. But so 661 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: you'll get there before h maybe, Yeah, this is like 662 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: twenty eight or twenty nine for me. We're probably close 663 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: because I missed I missed one because of you missed one, Alan, Well, 664 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: I missed Chilly. I missed one an three year o 665 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: two when I was in the office. Um, I'm working 666 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: as an editor. I didn't make that. We're not we're 667 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: not talking. We're not talking about that one. And then yeah, 668 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: I had a one year vacation after I sneaked in 669 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: the Butler cab and the Green Coach put me on ice. 670 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: So I've missed two since ninety four whenever that math 671 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: computes at but uh yeah, yeah, a piece of the 672 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: tree is the thing. He like. It's actually kind of 673 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: funny that the Eisenhower Tree fell over, but instead of 674 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: just getting rid of it, they've like preserved it, and 675 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: they used the wood for all kinds of ceremonial purposes. 676 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: That's what they tell you. Maybe system. I'm shocked with 677 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: all the connections at August National House. I'm shocked that 678 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: there was a proper obituary in the New York Times 679 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: for the Eisenhour. Why do you why don't you write that? 680 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: That would have been That would have been a great 681 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: cheeky column. I'm now I feel cheated. Alan, tell me 682 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: if I have this correct. Scheffler, I know got Player 683 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: of the Year from the Golf Writers, but that's on 684 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: the basis of his entire year, no matter where you play. 685 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Is that? How? Yeah? So that that's 686 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: actually I know. I know I voted for camp Smith, 687 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: so I didn't I don't see. That's the thing that 688 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: that is. What is cool about the Player of the 689 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: Year from the Golf Writers is it's not defined as 690 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: it's just player of the year. And so if you win, 691 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, in Australian December like camp Smith did, like 692 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: that factored into my vote. And if you win on 693 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: other tours, including one that has Roman numerals, that be 694 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: a factor in your vote. Like it it's not you 695 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: have a spectacular writer cup, you could add that or 696 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: if you have, you know a bunch of seconds and 697 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: put heat on winners. Yeah, it's just and so every 698 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: now and then it's left to the golf riders to 699 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: right or wrong where you know, the tour players they 700 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: vote for. It's a popularity contest and politics gets involved. 701 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: I guess that could happen with the golf writers as well, 702 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: but we try and I'd like to think that we're 703 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: we're we're agenda free where people are just voting who 704 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: they think the best player is. And I think Scheffler. 705 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: You could definitely make the case to vote for Cheffler. 706 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: I just saw cam Smith winning on those two incredibly 707 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: different courses, Sagres and the Old Course just set him apart, 708 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: no question. Yeah he got my vote as well, so 709 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: um yeah, I mean it becomes interesting thought exercise. If 710 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: brooks Kepka wins a maj Journey, wins four live events, 711 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: does does he get Player of the year? Like how 712 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: do we how do we assign value? It's going to 713 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: be left to the golf riders to assign value to 714 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: winning on on the live tour because no one else 715 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: takes it seriously. Let's say Brooks win, or any any 716 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: player on live wins a major if this is second 717 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: in another win, wins the European Tour event um and 718 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: whins three times on live? Does it does it nudge? 719 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: Does it give him a little bump? I don't know. 720 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: We'll see they'll get three votes. I mean it's like 721 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: it's not just not I mean, I'm not saying that 722 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: right or wrong. I'm just saying it's just not going 723 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: to happen amongst the golf riders. This is not gonna happen. Yeah. No, 724 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean it definitely skews towards the traditionalist. But if 725 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: you think of like like uh, kept kept going. He 726 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: won at Bethpage. You know it was playing dominating golf 727 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: for three days. Well a lot of people have played 728 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: dominating golf for three days. And then he had a 729 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 1: lousy fourth round and you know he won because nobody 730 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: else played great. And it's a beth Page Black, it's 731 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: a super hard golf course. We're luck and go wrong 732 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: and the rough was off. But fifty four holes is 733 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: not seventy two holes. I think they should get points 734 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 1: and they should get consideration from us, but it really 735 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: isn't the same yeah, the more. I mean, if if 736 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour had made all their events ninety holes, 737 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: Tigger would have one hundred and twenty wins. I mean 738 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: the more. The more holes you play, the more opportunities 739 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: for the best player to separate himself. There's no question. 740 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: But I you know, I will say, having been at 741 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: at enough live events, it's more of a sprinter's mentality. 742 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,479 Speaker 1: When you know at the outset you have fifty four holes, 743 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: they become precious and that first round takes on a 744 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: lot of weight because if you shoot seventy three or 745 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: seventy four your toast, there's not enough time to make 746 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: up ground. And so you know, when a sevent two 747 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: whole event gets shortened fifty four, it feels weird if 748 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: you know you have fifty four to begin with, and 749 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: that's your mentality and you got to make every single 750 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: one count. You know, That's just that is what it is. 751 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: But anyway, we can save this for another podcast. But 752 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: but again it's going to be it's just all it's 753 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: all swirling in the dog woods, all this stuff, and um, 754 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: you know there's been a million jokes about it or 755 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: all the live guys are gonna you know, go home 756 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: on Saturday night because they think there's only three rounds. 757 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: And uh, you know this and that, like it adds 758 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: a whole element to to to this week and I'm 759 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: here for it. What else do we need to talk about? 760 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: What else is going on in this masters that demands 761 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: to be discussed? Well? I think I think, first of all, 762 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: we just came off a good week of at fire 763 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: Pit Collective three part podcast Tony Gwin's Greatness. If you 764 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: haven't listened, took me two years to put together a 765 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: lot of great voices. Um opening day obviously, this week fun, 766 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: if you like baseball, if you like gin, uh, please listen. 767 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Michael, you just dropped two h 768 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: two great stories. Um Alan yet another big week, I 769 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: mean book excerpts and then next week. The plan being 770 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 1: from a content standpoint, as you talked about daily stories, 771 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: multiple podcasts, all the socials that go with that, and 772 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: and and you know, live from the grounds for both 773 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: of you. So I just think setting up this week 774 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: coming off last week an wha. I'm not a drive 775 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: chipping put guy at all. I wish I really wish 776 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: it would go away, to be totally honest with you, 777 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: but Anna was amazing, and and here we go. I 778 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: just think we can't get to we can't get to 779 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: Thursday morning fast enough. It's a long build up, I mean, 780 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday of Master's Week. To me, you 781 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: feel like they last a month because everyone everyone's there 782 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: and chomping at the bit, especially this year. I know, 783 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how the players do it. 784 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: I mean, and you see some of these first timers 785 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: by the time I get a Thursday afternoon, they're exhausted 786 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: because they've played too much and they spent too much 787 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: time there. They're just they're trying to soak it all in. 788 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: But it's kind of the same thing for reporters, like 789 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: we're just ready to go and getting through the first 790 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: half of the week as always has a challenge. But uh, well, 791 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: we will, we will service the readership. They'll be fun 792 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: stuff for sure. Mike and I'll be writing every day 793 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 1: and we were we know, we're working on the podcast schedule. 794 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: We'll certainly do Thursday, Friday and Sunday, and we're gonna 795 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna try and steak another one in probably on Tuesday. 796 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: We have a Laird Shepherd Grind coming out Grind episode 797 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: on Laird Shepherd, who we followed through two last year's Masters. 798 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: He won the British Amateur, got to play in the Open, 799 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: then got to play in the Masters and the US 800 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: open Um, and so we're putting that out on Tuesday 801 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: with an updated update podcast on sort of where he's 802 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: at with his life and career as now a professional golfer. 803 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: So that's definitely coming out on Tuesday. It's it's a 804 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: great episode. Happy to get get another Grind episode out 805 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: into the world because there's tremendous intimacy with with Laird 806 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: and his friends, and we chronicle this this epic comeback 807 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: he had in the British Amateur. He eight down with 808 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: the nineteen holes to play in this thirty sixth Hoole 809 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: finale and came back in one is one of the 810 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: all time great comebacks in the history of you know, 811 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: big time golf. And and then without spoiling too much, 812 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: the Master's Week was a challenge for him and how 813 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: he how he dealt with that. So that, yeah, that 814 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: that that's something to look forward to as well. So 815 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: all right, well, um, I think we've touched them all 816 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: for now. It's going to be a heck of a week. 817 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: We are delighted to be tour guides for the golf 818 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: fans out there. Thank you to Robin Golf for the sponsorship. 819 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: Um matter, Michael, any final parting thoughts, Well, it's all 820 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, just uh, it's a delight to be able 821 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: to have this opportunity to talk about you know, people 822 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: say like, oh, what's been the difference for you from 823 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, your old job, which is more of a 824 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: writing job to this job is just the writing of 825 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: the podcast. And U It's like, I can't believe this 826 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: is considered a serious part of my payday because it's 827 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 1: so easy talking about golf, because it's fun. The mechanics 828 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: are getting the microphone on. I mean, come on, So 829 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: this is a great week and we have a good 830 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: time doing it, and I hope people enjoy listening to it. 831 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: Someday we'll release the super cut of getting Michael's microphone 832 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: dialed in. It'll be like it it'll be like one 833 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four minutes of testing microphones and but 834 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 1: that today's not but when Mike hob when Mike Murphy 835 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: just trotted on in there at age ninety two, is 836 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: ready to get aspirational least like wow aspirational. Yeah, a 837 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: good stuff. An last thoughts, no, just uh, godspeed guys 838 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: getting there and can't wait to uh can't wait to 839 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: read and hear all that we'll be coming up with. 840 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 1: It's going to be this is one one for the ages. 841 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to be. This is unlike 842 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: anything we've ever seen in all the years. You know, 843 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: my first Masters was nineteen ninety seven. Uh, covered, you know, 844 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: there's just nothing the build up to what is about 845 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: to unfold, and for all the reasons we've already discussed, 846 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: I just it's almost too much to comprehend. Alan, Alan, 847 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: all right, let's go to this on what's your dream 848 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: to some last group off Sunday afternoon. Oh that that's 849 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: easiest question of the night. It's Rory and Patrick Reid. 850 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, tour verses live. You have the chosen one 851 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: against you know, the dark Lord like, it's it's mythical, 852 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: it's shakesperiod, it's it's Greek like. I mean, it would be, 853 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 1: it would be fantastic. I don't agree because the rooting 854 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: interest is so obvious there where it's like camp Smith, 855 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: He's he's a likable guy. Yeah, well some people would 856 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: just but it's well, I mean, okay, actually the honest 857 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: answer is Tiger against Phil for all the same I 858 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: was like, I was like, why I'm trying to I'm 859 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: trying to deal in reality, not science fiction, like what 860 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: could happen? But but yeah, I mean that would that 861 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: would be fun. I mean, Dustin actually is playing well. 862 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: He kind of tweeked his back a month ago, but 863 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: he he's rounded into form. Like I think he's dangerous, 864 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: especially if the courses saw off. Like, how about the 865 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: fact that we've been talking golf for fifty minutes now 866 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 1: and have barely mentioned the name of five time Masters 867 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: winner Tiger Woods. Yeah, that's kind of a sign of 868 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 1: the times, it is. I mean, Tiger's I think if 869 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 1: the course was bone dry, I think Tiger be more dangerous. 870 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: It's not it's not that Allen. Tiger's got to get 871 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on in Tiger's life. We've 872 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: never known. But Tigers should be way ahead of this 873 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: golf ball thing, way ahead of you know, make the 874 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: drivers smaller, make the course shorter. Whatever. His natural honest 875 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 1: position is, uh live golf, of course. Uh, but he's 876 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: just not there. But he's not. I'm just good. I'm 877 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: just I'm just I think physically for Tiger Woods, you 878 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: know again, the undulations of Augusta Nashville. I mean, forget 879 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: the skill. I mean, we know he's got the skill 880 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: to hit the shots, to be able to walk that 881 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: golf course four rounds plus whatever he's going to do 882 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: from a practice standpoint. It just I just don't see it. 883 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening. Augusta National. You know, 884 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: old course. Maybe Augusta National is not an easy walk, 885 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: especially a guy who basically has you know, one leg. 886 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about like Tiger Woods, like the Nicklas role, 887 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: even then Nick Price roll the Rory role now of 888 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: real thought leader in the game, We're not hearing that. Yeah, 889 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: he had to trigg his girlfriend in the thinking she 890 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: was taking a vacation, like so they could move her 891 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: out of the mansion and break up with her, which 892 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: is led to how did that go? How did that 893 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,720 Speaker 1: go for her? Which is led to a huge lawsuit, 894 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: Like it's it's hard to play. Every top golfer will 895 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 1: tell you it's hard to play golf if your mind 896 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: isn't clear. And when someone has a sick parent or 897 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 1: they're going through a people in the personal life it 898 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: always shows in their scores. And Tiger's life is just 899 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: so messy. It's so messy. But also again, we don't 900 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: I don't look to Tiger to be the one who 901 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: sort of leads people in a in a in a 902 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: way like with the thoughtful, like Rory runs circles around him, 903 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, in situations like that. I mean Phil you know, 904 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: has done it in the past, but also like steps 905 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 1: on his own foot when you know when he gets 906 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 1: to the mic and does you know the Watson things, 907 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: or does like just flies off the cuff. But Tiger 908 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: is just not. So many people want Tiger to be 909 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: something so much more than just like a really good golfer, 910 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: and he's not any of those things that we all 911 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: want him to be. He's not. He's not, he never was, 912 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 1: he never will be. He's he's flawed, we're all flawed whatever. 913 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: He's just not the He's not a verbal leader of 914 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 1: people in which we all sit there and think, Wow, 915 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: that was really deep and meaningful, and that's the way 916 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: it needs to be done. When you're carrying a tampon 917 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 1: around a tournament round so you can slip to someone 918 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: as a joke. He might be forfeiting your your place 919 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: as the moral arbiter of the voice of the sport. 920 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 1: It's just it's just not a natural role for the guy. 921 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,800 Speaker 1: It's just not I mean, his words have weight because 922 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 1: he's Tiger Woods, but it's it's just doesn't come easy 923 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: for him. And um, so it is to use one 924 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 1: of his favorite expressions, it is what it is. But 925 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: he's still Tiger Woods. I mean, he still has some 926 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: magic in his hands, like he could go out to 927 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: two sixty seven on Thursday and turn and placed upside 928 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: down like anything's possible. But the chances of his foot 929 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: and his back and his knee and his neck and 930 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: his achilles and all these things feeling good four days 931 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: in a row and letting him do what he needs 932 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: to do to beat highly optimize twenty something athletes, like 933 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: it's asking a lot. But yeah, I think, Um, I 934 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: don't know. Well, we'll all watch Tiger keenly, but I 935 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 1: don't think this is his master's so but we'll see. Well, 936 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: this will be fodder for for the Thursday and the 937 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: Friday podcast. So, um, all right, we tried to end this, 938 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: we kept going. Now let's end it. We'll release the listeners, 939 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: but it's always always a lot to talk about. So 940 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 1: for Michael Bamberger and Mattanella, this is Alan Chipnuk. There's 941 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: another fire drill. We will be coming at you all 942 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: week long from Augusta, Georgia. Thanks for listening, and for 943 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: now that's the end. I've been big, played the win, 944 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: made a fortune with my shot game. Man. I ran 945 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: the table. Never thought I could fall them and win. 946 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: Hit me like a cannon the ball and now I 947 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: can't shake this losing the street. Every road I take 948 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: is a dead end street. Our thoughts in my head, 949 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: can't get them out, trying not to think what I'm 950 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: thinking about. I kind of thoughts in my head. Can't 951 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: get them out, trying not to think what I'm thinking 952 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: about