WEBVTT - Drive Time: Brett Kollman Analyzes Dolphins Draft, Offseason, Roster Part 2 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.720 You are listening to the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.280 This is Drive Time with Travis Wingfield. Back to throw 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.640 to a looking clips adult. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:17.400 A wide open touchdown, Tyrick cal uncolievable, just blue by for. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.320 A second time. Don knew where he was going right away. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.040 I want to hit that man. I'm gonna help you. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.239 Someone will keep on your man away Wattle Wadle to 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.760 a shotgun, back to throw, looking at them. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:33.560 Up myers touchdown. It's Waddle his sixth touchdown. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:39.000 Pat's a king. Drive Time with Travis Wingfield begins. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.519 Now let me check your pulse if you're not for. 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:47.800 What is up? Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time podcast, 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.080 part of the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network, covering your team, 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:55.560 your Miami Dolphins. How's it going everybody? I am your host, 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.000 Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, part two of my 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.760 interview with Brett call talking about Elijah Higgins, Ryan Hayes, 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.959 and so much more around this Miami Dolphins football team. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:09.520 What anticipation does for a football player, Mike McDaniel in 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.120 year two, How the offense can benefit from the second 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:16.080 year under Mike McDaniel. So much good content here. Let's 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.320 go ahead and jump right in from the Baptist Health 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.240 Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:26.960 Draft Time Podcast Maggie Gaffish Fish and once again, let's 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.560 go ahead and play my interview, part two with the 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.760 Great Brett Coleman. I'm thrilled to be joined once again 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.760 for the second consecutive episode here by the Great Brett Coleman. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.039 We've already talked about the credentials. We'll do it again 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.000 here the film Room YouTube channel, the Bootleg Football Podcast, 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.960 NFL Media Los Angeles Chargers. You see the backdrop there 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.520 if you're on video of him in a high rise 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.440 where you're at Brett, You and Los Angeles don't want 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.080 to give away your location, but man, you've certainly upgraded 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:52.240 the digs from last I saw you. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.720 Yeah, right in the middle of downtown LA, which works 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.800 out well for all the stuff I do in NFL media, 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.120 which is like. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:00.600 Is that way? 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:01.120 You know? 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:02.400 So far? Is not that far? 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.640 And then you know the Chargers. Chargers are actually in 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.400 multiple spots run southern California. Are you guys coming out 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:09.920 to LA this year? I think you are right. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.239 We play the Chargers in LA. I believe, I believe 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.320 I think so. I mean, I used to be able 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.160 to rattle that stuff off, but now like my brain 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.320 so consume with so many things that I kind of 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.840 I have to go back and look. But I'm pretty sure, yeah, 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.160 actually play the AFC West. I'm pretty sure we are 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:25.919 in Los Angeles, So maybe we'll come out and see 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:26.760 you guys at some point. 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:28.320 That'd be fun. I'd love that. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.720 So twenty minutes away, it was that like a mile 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:31.200 and a half. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.639 Away, yeah about about. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.040 Yeah, it's pretty bad down here, but I know it's 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.120 it's it's probably the worst in your neck of the woods. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.000 But we're not here to talk about traffic and and grids, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.560 grid flows of big cities. I do want to talk 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.160 about this, Brett, because it's kind of a sticking point 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.160 for me. Again I mentioned in the last podcast, I 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:51.960 want to test some of my theories out on you here. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.760 Is that to me, anticipation is the most important trait 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.959 for a football player. I go back to like Zach 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.280 Thomas was the best linebacker I've ever seen anticipate and 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.440 flow to the football. You know, our quarterback we have 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.720 right now, to a tongue of Bai Lowo really excels 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.040 in that department. I was a huge fan of the 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.760 David Long acquisition for that reason, for his ability to 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.520 anticipate and go, you know, make place before the offensive 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.919 line has a chance to blink. We talked about Cam Smith. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.119 I'm curious your role. Are your thoughts on the role 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.520 anticipation plays at the quarterback position with Tua, but also 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.679 the rest of the position groups, the rest of the league, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.880 the rest of the game, anticipation of football. What do 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:29.560 you think about that? 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:34.080 I think anticipation is a critical trait for every single position, 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.160 you know, even non skill positions, even looking at the 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.880 trenches right, and I think there's pre snap. 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.480 Anticipation in post snap anticipation. There's two very different things. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:49.440 But like specifically at the quarterback position, you can't see. 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.680 It and throw it. In the NFL, you have to 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.200 throw it before you see it. You have to be 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.200 able to process defenses and understand, you know, based on 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.560 the first half second snapshot that you're getting, you know, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.680 where's a DB's hips pointing, what technique are they playing? 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.200 Are they playing high shoulder or low shoulder, and anticipate 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.800 what that means in terms of space that will open 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.640 where you should be placing the ball against man, because 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.600 throwing against man isn't just about Okay, I'm gonna give 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.160 my guy a shot fifty to fifty, like, you got 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.520 to place the ball accurately to give him that shot. 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.919 Are you leading him down the field, are you throwing 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.520 back shoulder? Are you leaving it inside? And that's where 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.560 we talk about chemistry, right, and anticipation is fed from chemistry. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.040 But even on the defensive side of the ball. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:42.040 At linebacker, again, you're anticipating what an offense is trying 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.480 to do pre snap, based on alignment, based on motion. 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.360 You know, one of the old oldest tricks in the 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.279 books is you're looking at which line which lineman's knuckles 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.080 are white, right, to see where they're putting their weight on, 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.800 because if their weights off their knuckles, that means they 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.400 might be pulling. Here, you're looking at splits between offensive 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.719 lineman who's got an extra six inches of space that 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.520 doesn't that shouldn't be there, right, That's probably where the 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.000 point of attack is going to because they want to 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.440 give themselves every advantage in terms of making that poa 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:12.560 as wide as possible. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.600 You're looking at stance, you. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.560 Know, uh, and there's a there's an example that I 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.680 pointed out last year and I sent it to my 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.160 buddy at the Seahawks. I was like, you got to 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.800 fix Charles Cross here, who was their rookie left tackle, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.720 And I was like, he's tipping his sets when he's 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.040 doing a jump set versus an angle set because his 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.440 feet are different. And the forty nine ers figured it 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:33.839 out in the second half and they ate him alive. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.520 I'm like, you got to you gotta fix this kid, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:40.159 like he's tipping his sets. And so there's anticipation on 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:41.920 the defensive side of the ball for that type of 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:46.680 stuff too. So it's it's a very complex sport, and 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.800 when you play it for a long time, where you 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.640 watch it for a long time, you can pick up 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.560 on little things as simple as the left tackle's foot 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.400 is four inches different than it was last time, and 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.320 that is all the difference between completed pass and a 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.000 sack fumble that ends your season. So yeah, anticipations everything, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.839 in addition to you know, running four three and squatting 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:08.760 six hundred punds. 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.000 It doesn't hurt at all. And there was a throw 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.880 last year in the Cleveland game where Denzel Ward played 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.360 the played it perfectly out and out breaking route too. 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.480 I think it was Jaylen Waddle where to put it 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.080 really in the tire swing man like, it was high 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.559 and away and if he threw any more back inside, 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.360 it's probably a pick six the other way. And then 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.240 you drop probably his best past the year on Trent 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:28.839 Sherfield for a touchdown on the corner of the end 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.680 zone just two plays later. So we see that in 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.240 spades down here with our quarterback position, and you speak 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.400 about the white knuckles and the stands man like if 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.400 I learned anything about invincible Mark Wahlberg score a touchdown 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.480 for the Philadelphia Eagles Vince Papali because of the white knuckles, 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.279 going back to the two thousand and six people there. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.280 But aside from that, you know, it just tracks because 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.200 you talk about anticipation, love of the game comes to mind. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.280 You think about that. I go back to the previous 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.640 podcast I mentioned Raheem Moster discussing how these you know, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.200 superstar players have integrated into the Doll's locker room. It 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.440 just goes back to this idea of getting the right 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.760 types of players, the right types of Miami Dolphins, and 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.720 that to me is high character. It's high football character. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.120 If you're going to put that work in for your 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.720 teammates to make yourself better and make the team better. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.560 But what I wanted to get into here with this 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.520 before we talk about the next two draft picks, is 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.280 analyzing that level of football character and that level of intelligence. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.360 And how how do scouting stats do that they is 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:28.280 it primarily based upon conversations with the college coach, the 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.520 players coaches in college, you know, the recruiting staffs down there. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.600 Is it something you see on film like what's the 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:39.280 process of uncovering a person with you know, high football intelligence, 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.400 high football character and a guy that you know puts 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.640 in the work that way and it shows on tape. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.320 I mean a big thing in terms of determining you 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.880 know that that trait pre draft. And we know that 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.600 the Dolphins probably had extensive meetings with every single guy 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.640 they drafted, right, because they're not going to draft so 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.640 much without having a feel for that. The big thing 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.800 in terms of determining football intelligence, you got to sit 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.720 there and talk about all of them, right, And even 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:08.320 if you know the answer on something of like hey, 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.360 why did you play it this way? You know, you 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:11.920 pull up some film and you ask them what did 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.320 you see and why did you play it this way? 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.280 And just see if they can if they can spit 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.840 out that answer, right, talk about pre snap breads, talk 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.600 about post snapreeds, techniques, all that kind of stuff. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.080 Get what's going through their head. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.800 And I had a chance to do that extensively over 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.760 the last couple of years at the Shrine Bowl, because 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.560 the Shrine Bowl is very gracious and gives media, you know, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.520 literally as long as we want to to sit down 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.480 with all these prospects. And they had seven guys going 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.200 in the top hundred this year, right, and they had 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.960 first round pick and say Flowers, we got unlimited time 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.280 whatever we wanted to to sit down and watch film 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.760 with them and do interviews and ask them how they 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:52.640 saw certain things. And we got a good sense for 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.240 what they know and how they operate. And there were 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.280 some guys like Jewe Scrugs. Nobody was talking about Jewe Scrugs, right. 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.480 He was a center that are converted to a guard 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.240 that went in the second round. Nobody knew about him, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.160 but we did because we got to sit there and 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.560 talk about how he calls protections, how he looks at 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.480 certain things pre snap, all the different calls that he uses, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.160 how he's executing a reach block against certain defensive line techniques, 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.120 and we understood, oh my god, this guy knows football. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.400 Same thing Ricky Stromberg. He went in the top one 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.120 fifty to the Commanders. I'm like, this is a top 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.079 four center in this class and nobody was talking about him. 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.480 He was rankeding like the three hundreds back in January. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.640 Chandlers of Volat didn't even get a combined invite ended 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.280 up going to the fourth round because I know the 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:33.880 Panthers met with him at the Shrine Bowl too, and 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.640 they probably asked him all the same questions I did. 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.040 And we're like, oh my god, this kid's so smart. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.440 He's a former soccer player, he's got great feet. What 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:42.320 am I missing here? 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.160 And then we get to the draft roo We're seeing 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.520 all these guys going early, early, early, and we're like, Oh, 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.280 it's because they're smart. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.199 It's because they know the game and they're pros. Pros 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.120 that matters. 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:59.760 And I question teams who quote unquote take reaches a 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.040 lot less now because I know there's a good chance 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.240 they probably had a good meeting with that kid and 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:07.280 they trust that meeting. 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:09.719 Yeah, I was gonna say that's probably a part of 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.600 where the disconnect comes from from. You talk about reaches, like, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.160 what are reaches born from? It's from media coverage, right 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.679 and consensus, big boards and mock drafts that I suppose 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.120 reflect a little bit of how the NFL thinks, but 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.800 not entirely. I mean we see it every single year. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.440 And I point to the seat Seahawks, a team that 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.959 just doesn't give an f what you think about their 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.720 draft board. They're going to take players that fit what 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.080 they do. And you know, John Schneider basically set himself 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.400 up for a decade run with back to back all 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.800 time great draft classes. Hit a bit of a role 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.200 there for a couple of years, but now here they 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.400 are back again with a couple of really good draft classes. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.280 And then went from a team that last year, folks 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.600 myself included, thought was going to be picking top five 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.000 to a team that qualify for the playoffs and uncovered 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.000 a quarterback in the process. So really good stuff there 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.160 with those guys. I want to talk about something else. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.520 The Dolphins really kind of checked the box on over 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.600 draft weekend ten split time. We're gonna talk about that, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.040 and Elijah Higgins and Ryan Hayes here on the draft 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.800 time podcast. My guest today is Brett Coleman. Your host 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.199 Travis Wingfield. We are brought to you by Auto Nation. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.280 We talked about it on the other side of the 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.719 break there the ten splits, and I keep looking at 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.000 this and there's a great chart out there. We'll talk 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.920 about Elijah Higgins in just one second here, Brett, there's 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.200 a great chart that kind of compares two traits for 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:31.560 tight ends that typically produce high level producers at the position, 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.360 and it has to do with yards after the catch 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.720 and their ten split, the way they come off the football. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.000 But before we talk about Elijah Higgins specifically with that 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.760 start or that trade, I should say I want to 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.960 talk about the ten split in general because I'm looking 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:46.880 at Dolphins draft classes over the last couple of years 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.600 and really their roster in general these last two years 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.360 under Mike McDaniel, who has gone to the podium and 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.880 spoken to us in the media about how tight end 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.400 offensive line these are positions that guys kind of have 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.840 to retrain their brain if you haven't played in this, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:04.640 because they prioritize firing off the football, playing fast, and 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.839 being less reactionary. I'm curious to get your take on 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.679 how that works for this Dolphins roster and how the 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:15.559 ten split time tracks with that philosophy in that mindset. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.880 You know, And we talked last episode about how this 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.679 offense is very space oriented right in terms of how 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:27.160 they use speed to create spacing for that speed to operate. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.040 And you can't just have one fast guy. You need 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.000 to have a bunch of fast guys. But I think 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.160 there's multiple types of fasts. There's guys that have a 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.520 third gear that can pull away and win late, and 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.320 there's guys that get up to second gear immediately and 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.559 can win early. And you know, particularly with Elijah Higgins, 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.920 I think his ten split was like one five three, 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.440 like something crazy like that. You know, he's a converted 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.720 receiver to play tight end. I assume he's not going 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.440 to play at two thirty five. They'll probably get him 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.600 up to two forty something. But like with that ten split, 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.240 that means he can separate early, and in this offense, 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.040 you kind of have to be able to separate early because, 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.040 especially in the play action game, you're running all these 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.200 crossing routes, all that kind of stuff. You got to 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.520 pull away under two seconds so that you know Tua 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.440 can hit you right you got to separate early on those. 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.880 But in addition to that, like if they put him 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.320 out as a big slot, which they probably will quite frequently, 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.040 you know, being able to separate quickly on choice routes 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.440 is a big part of that role. I would also say, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.600 as like a seam ripper, right you know, you're hitting 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:32.840 up the seam, You've got to have a good ten 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.880 split so that you can stack on whoever happens to 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.320 be covering you, Like the linebacker's coming from eight yards 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.240 deep and he slide into your hip pocket. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:44.040 You got to have a good enough burst in acceleration. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.200 Get up a second gear to get on top of 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.560 his shoulder so that Tua has space to lead you vertically, 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.199 and so he's playing behind you and not on you. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.280 So in particular, it's less about winning late at the 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.560 tight end position in this offense, more about winning early. 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.600 And Elijah Higgins was you know, he would not on 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.080 my radar specifically for the Dolphins, but as soon as 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:08.520 they took him, I was like, oh, oh. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.720 I get it, I really get it right. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.439 Like I think they see him as like their own 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:15.439 kind of Evan Ingram type, and this it makes a 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:16.240 lot of sense to me. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.680 Yeah, I plugged on the tape because, like you said, 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.200 I wasn't familiar with this game at all. You know 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.160 the great shock quote. I wasn't familiar with your game, 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:23.920 young man, but now I respect it now that I am. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.760 The first rep that I saw was him chewing up 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.440 off coverage against Arizona State, and it like the ten split. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.240 Oh that's a what's what? A one to five to 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.280 three ten split? Looks like he just chewed up eight 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.000 yards before the quarterback even hit, like the second step 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:39.720 of his drop. So I can I can understand where 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.680 they're coming from with this, and there's I have so 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.400 many questions about this for you, Brett. Well, I guess 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.400 I'll just talk about this first because you know you mentioned, 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.480 you know, big slot, seam ripper potential, in line attached option. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.880 I keep looking at this offense. You go back to 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.160 devon a Chain as a guy that can play running back, 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.240 can flex out into the slot and you know, play 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.840 some some split end for you whatever the case may be. Like, 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.360 I know defenses have done this more in recent history, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.840 but are we on the verge of watching offenses? Obviously 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:12.280 not quarterback in offensive line, but offense has become more positionless. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:13.160 Does that make sense? 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:15.960 Yeah, because I mean they did the same thing with 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:17.640 Tanner Connor last year. Not great. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:19.960 I loved him coming out of Idaho, and he was 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.880 another converted receiver with like legit track speed that they 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.840 made into a tight end. And it's like the same profile, right, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.680 you know what's better than having one of those having 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.400 two of them. But you got Durham who's probably gonna 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.400 play the wise spot. Then you got all these guys 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.400 that are you know, hybrid receiver tight ends, and you 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.560 got Ingold, and you got all the running backs, and 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.840 you have all these guys that can play four different 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:49.040 alignments for you. And whether it's slot out wide in 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.880 the backfield as an h back, I mean, Higgins and 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.240 Connor are fast enough you could probably just if a 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:56.840 chain's out there, you put a chanin in slot. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:58.240 You put one of those guys in the backfield and 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.840 give him a carry. Why not? Right? They both run 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:01.840 like four four four five. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.360 So it's all these moving chess pieces that make it 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.800 really tough for a defense to figure out how do 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:13.440 we match up with it? Because every single defensive call 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.480 is going to have rules to it, you know, particularly 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.400 with like match zones, which is the most common call 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:19.880 you're going to see, is like some sort of match 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:24.440 zone coverage, right, And how that functions is they don't 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.800 match up to specific players or specific positions. 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:29.120 They match up to alignment. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:34.280 And so it's like, if number two is vertical, meaning 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.960 you know, going more than ten yards down the field, 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.480 number two is your job if you're the safety in quarters, right, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:42.400 But they don't account for it. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.480 Is that number two tyreek hill or is it a 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.080 tight end? You know? 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.240 And it's like if number three is running under, that's 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.360 the linebacker's responsibility. And it's like, well, what if that's 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.600 a tight end that runs four to four? Like it's 0:16:54.640 --> 0:17:00.760 it's not it's not a system that allows for or 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.920 it's not a philosophy that I would say that allows 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.959 for getting clean matchups all the time, because it's more 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:09.720 about simplicity of execution and just trusting that guys can 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.840 count one, two, three and then execute. 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:15.720 The role right. And that's where coach McDaniel thrives is 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.959 because he knows that he knows that it's all rules 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.480 based and that it's less flexible in favor of simplicity 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.240 and speed of execution. And so if he can use 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.720 all this motion that he uses to all of a 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:32.240 sudden force a bad matchup. That's where he wins. 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.520 And so that's why he's getting all these guys that 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.320 he can motion around and put into different spots to 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:38.840 force those bad matchups. 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:40.440 On defense, I keep. 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:44.199 Thinking about last year. There's several examples of Tyreek, you know, 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.440 from a condense split working off of a bunch where 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.160 they get a natural pick and a rub and he's 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.359 running a wheel route where he's got the dB stacked 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.240 within five yards and two who just has a simple 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.879 little flip route or flip throw that he's so adept 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.280 at making those little touch passes. So it's it's an 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.080 embarrassment of and it makes me, you know, not envy 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.720 defensive coordinators because how do you know when a team 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.480 goes into the huddle with that type of offensive firepower? 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.479 Like what personnel package am I calling out? Is that 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.400 twelve or is that like you know, is that personnel? 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.600 Like you can be anything because of the flexibility of 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.199 these types of players. And I think Elijah Higgins, you know, 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.119 if he develops into what you hope he can be, 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:23.879 is one of those types of players. Let's go ahead 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.960 and finish up this segment talking about Higgins a little 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.159 more and just in general what he offers, because we 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.680 talk about the ten split, the position flexibility. You know, 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.760 you talked about maybe putting some weight on the guy. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.679 He has the frame to do it, because when I 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.840 watched him play Brett, you know, the contested catch rate 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.760 that he had, it wasn't you know, there wasn't a 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.159