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Speaker 1: Do you guys still have moments where you can go

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Speaker 1: back twenty four or thirty one years when the six

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Speaker 2: And how do you facilitate that.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you my daughter's dance competitive. So when they're

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Speaker 3: downstairs dancing, when they're in rehearsals, me and Mama go

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Speaker 3: go get it in right fast. I mean, you gotta

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Speaker 3: get it in where you gotta get it in because

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Speaker 3: sometimes you ain't got the time.

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Speaker 4: He's talking about nostalgia, you're talking about sex.

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Speaker 5: We play the music. We play the music.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I do what pigs, big big, pull me to pig.

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Speaker 6: I don we're pigs, big big, singing a cad. I

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Speaker 6: don a pig, big big, pull me to pay. I

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Speaker 6: do we're pigs, big big, singing a cad.

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Speaker 3: I do a pig.

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Speaker 6: I a pig, big big, Say it again, I do

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Speaker 6: a pig?

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Speaker 5: What is up?

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Speaker 2: What is good? How you living? How you feeling? How

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Speaker 2: you're doing it? Is the Big.

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Speaker 1: Podcast with Shaq where we always do it big, and

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Speaker 1: this one is gonna be awesome because Shaq loves to

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Speaker 1: think that he's an expert in relationships and parenting. So Shaq,

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Speaker 1: may I give the official introduction to our guests. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he is a legend on the mic. She is the

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Speaker 1: real voice at home. Together they have built a bond

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Speaker 1: that is fully grown. From the breakfast club to bedtime routines,

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Speaker 1: they have weathered the storm and they have chased big dreams.

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Speaker 1: Now they're pulling back the curtains. No filler, no fantasy,

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Speaker 1: just truth, love, real life, real family in the Shahookah

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Speaker 1: Lounge today. Let us make it realer than ever and

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Speaker 1: give it up for DJ Envy and Gia Casey.

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Speaker 5: I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 7: Was that off the top of the dome?

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Speaker 1: Uh No, I write them ahead of that. But Shaq

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Speaker 1: explain to them, how you you really do think that

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Speaker 1: you are the next voice in relationships and parenting.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't want to say that I'm the next voice.

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Speaker 7: I am the voice for those that made them a

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Speaker 7: lot of made a lot of mistakes and want to

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Speaker 7: recover from the mistakes because I always, I always say

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Speaker 7: my biggest mistake was ruining my family by being dumb.

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Speaker 7: And you know, a man's job is to protect, providing love,

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Speaker 7: I could always say, well, she did she did that. No,

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Speaker 7: I did it. Everything everything I think in relationship is

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Speaker 7: caused and effected because I was doing the dumb stuff.

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Speaker 7: Now I'm in a thirty times square for the house

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Speaker 7: by myself. So it's not that I'm an expert. I

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Speaker 7: just tell my stories that I have to tell because

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Speaker 7: I want people to learn and understand. You know, when

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Speaker 7: you when you going through stuff and you got it

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Speaker 7: going on, and that stuff not real. Well, real life

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Speaker 7: to me was coming to the house and sitting here

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Speaker 7: in six different daddy daddy, daddy, daddy, and then one

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Speaker 7: day that ship's gone. You're every boy yourself. Yeah you

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Speaker 7: got the chef and you got the fifty cars, and

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Speaker 7: you got the double story closet, but you don't have

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Speaker 7: your baby, and you don't have your hot wife, and

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Speaker 7: you pursue. So it's not that I'm an experts that

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Speaker 7: I try to tell stories to let people know that

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Speaker 7: I fucked up and it was me. It was all

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Speaker 7: made like I'm you know, my father musclim man. So

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Speaker 7: you protect, you provide, and you love your woman all three,

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Speaker 7: not one, not two, all three. I don't want to

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Speaker 7: hear it like my father worked three jobs, three jobs

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Speaker 7: to give my mama, not a lot, but just you know,

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Speaker 7: and not just in Vuler rules. So thank you for

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Speaker 7: being here. Thank you, miss miss miss give No, that's real.

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Speaker 5: And I want to tell you that that's that's the

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Speaker 3: We wrote the book, because what you said, A lot

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Speaker 3: of people that will say, a lot of people joke

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Speaker 3: reason why. And I don't want you to follow the

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Speaker 3: same thing that I did to mess this up. And

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Speaker 3: you know we've had conversations before and I almost fucked

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Speaker 3: up to the point where I'm like, nah, this is

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Speaker 3: it ain't worth none of that. Like like you said,

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Speaker 3: coming home to an empty house. I don't care what

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Speaker 7: It hit me, well, it hit me in the beginning,

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Speaker 7: but it hit me because when things happen my baby

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Speaker 7: sharifas five eight. Next time I'm saying my fucking six

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Speaker 7: to eleven and I like to remember and reminisce on shit,

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Speaker 7: I'm like, where the fuck did all this go? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and that's what really hit me. And then, like you said,

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Speaker 7: you gotta get out. I was like, I can't. I

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Speaker 7: fucked up. I don't like bucking up because I'm a

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Speaker 7: I'm a creature of habit and I'm supposed to learn

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Speaker 7: from mistakes and I didn't. But we're we're we're tight now.

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Speaker 7: But once I realized that I was compan up to

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Speaker 7: to realize what I did, it made me feel a

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Speaker 7: that like like like them now driving cars and doing

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Speaker 7: As the time disappear because I made it disappear. So again,

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Speaker 7: thank you for coming on. I appreciate you. Did you

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Speaker 7: know that's your first name is same as my middle No.

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Speaker 5: Really, the name of ra Sean. Really, I didn't know that.

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Speaker 7: Wow, So how did you get Russian like Shaq and Diesel?

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Speaker 7: How'd you get Rashaan to Envy?

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Speaker 5: Well, growing up in Queens, I was like five foot

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Speaker 7: Up by my ghetto studio, I saw good.

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Speaker 5: I was five for the four growing up, so I

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Speaker 3: My original name was DJ Shrimp because I was so

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Speaker 5: His name was DJ Mono.

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Speaker 3: And we went to a white Catholic school and we

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Speaker 3: used to say everybody envied us. So back in the

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Speaker 3: days when there was cassette tapes, they used to stand

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Speaker 3: Envy on the tape. So when you would go to

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Speaker 3: the boot leg and the African boot legging, it would

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Speaker 3: just say envy. We weren't making no money. And he

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Speaker 3: was like, well, I ain't doing this no more. I'm

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Speaker 3: African bootleggers. It was like, oh, Envy, you got the

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Speaker 3: I went from five to four to six foot and

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Speaker 3: I would have been still been calling me Shrimp, which

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have match. But the name just took off from

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Speaker 3: there so much gear.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been together thirty one years, married twenty four years.

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Speaker 7: What was his pickup line? I want to hear it?

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Speaker 7: What did he do? Thirty one years?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 4: I ran track? And he used to play basketball with

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Speaker 7: You play ball? Yeah all right, me and Kenny Smith

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Speaker 7: versus you and Shamblaine too on too.

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Speaker 5: Damn Charlamagne can't play NOA, I'll take. I'll take it.

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Speaker 5: I'll take it. I'll take Charlamonne can't play ball. He's trash.

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Speaker 4: And when he was in high school and he was DJing,

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Speaker 4: his parents bought him a con Edison van from like

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Speaker 4: and they bought him a baby blue bright baby blue

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Speaker 4: there would be this blue van sitting outside my track

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Speaker 3: Now they say stalker. Before it was cute. It was

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Speaker 3: cute before. Now it's a stalker now, Fellas we're in here.

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Speaker 3: But what happened? She ran track. Now I was gonna say,

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Speaker 3: one day she had the same size booms as she

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Speaker 8: And one day I walked up to the van because

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Speaker 8: I'm like, what, who's in this van? So I walked

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Speaker 8: watching you every day. I was like, well, you're not

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Speaker 4: And then he proceeded to ask me for my telephone

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Speaker 5: Ninety four she turned me down twenty times.

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Speaker 3: Don't get it, don't get it twisted. It wasn't that easy.

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Speaker 3: She didn't answer my phone call, she didn't call me.

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Speaker 3: I was I was persistent and consistent until she finally called.

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Speaker 3: And I kept going. I was R and B style,

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Speaker 4: Her locker, all that, all that, but you know what

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Speaker 5: With nineteen eighty six rim system.

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Speaker 4: Yeah and yeah he had rims. He worked all summer

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Speaker 4: And I was just meeting him and one day after school,

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Speaker 4: to him. I'm like, what's wrong when they stole my car?

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Speaker 5: The Nettle boy stole car? Yeah boy, ye stole my car.

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Speaker 5: I only had it one day with Rimsel. Yes. Yes.

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Speaker 4: So I sat down, I put my arm around. I

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Speaker 4: And that's when I was like, you know, this guy,

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Speaker 5: Cute to me.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, you haven't talked about this in

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Speaker 4: twenty years, but when the day that he told me

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Speaker 4: me his HANDI key.

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Speaker 7: Oh yes, everybody and I.

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Speaker 4: But I still have it, still have the hand key?

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean there was so much stuff there.

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Speaker 1: The fact that it was someone from Newark and Shaq

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Speaker 1: is Newark, it is hilarious. I you know, I have

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Speaker 1: flew uh recently to Atlanta without the and we like

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Speaker 1: we're listening to music at the.

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Speaker 2: Same time and all that. Do you guys still have moments?

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Speaker 1: Where you can go back twenty four to thirty one

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Speaker 1: years when the six kids aren't there and you just

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Speaker 1: get to have that young love feel.

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Speaker 2: And how do you facilitate that?

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Speaker 5: I would say we do, so I do.

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Speaker 3: I still travel on the weekends and do shows and parties,

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Speaker 3: especially when my kids don't have sports, and we go

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Speaker 5: We go to the hookah spot together, the club, the.

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Speaker 3: Gentleman's club, and we just have moments to ourselves and

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Speaker 3: even not I tell you, my daughter's dance competitive. So

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Speaker 3: when they're downstairs dancing, when they're in rehearsals, me and

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Speaker 3: Usually when my dad used to buy tickets, he's a

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Speaker 5: They gave him the seat to say he was bigger

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Speaker 3: And I was so freaking mad, Like I didn't even

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Speaker 7: For the Eastern Conference, I pick Indiana and let me

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Speaker 7: That means nothing. Let me tell you why. This would

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Speaker 1: Did you look at each other and you're like, oh,

439
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Speaker 1: they're going to be talking about this certain sections.

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Speaker 5: Not really real life real love. We didn't. I didn't

441
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Speaker 5: expect to pick up like it was.

442
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Speaker 3: We would just be in vulnerable and honest, like we

443
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Speaker 3: were talking about everything that we went through as a couple,

444
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Speaker 3: whether it was our sex life or infidelity or whatever

445
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Speaker 3: it was raising kids the first time we met. We

446
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Speaker 3: would just be in real So when things picked up,

447
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, because we talk about these things

448
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Speaker 3: on the podcast, so it was like, we do a podcast,

449
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Speaker 3: but we realized that there's a whole other side of

450
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Speaker 3: the world that necessary didn't listen to our podcast. And

451
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Speaker 3: when things picked up, you know, people made jokes, may

452
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Speaker 3: you know fund of me for.

453
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Speaker 5: A little bit, But we did it to get those

454
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Speaker 5: people that.

455
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Speaker 3: Were like, you know, we're in a relationship and this

456
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Speaker 3: book helped us or that conversation opened up a relationship

457
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Speaker 3: in our household.

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Speaker 5: So that's why we kind of are so vulnerable.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and I think I applaud you for that.

460
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Speaker 1: Shack always says, you know, not to take yourself too seriously,

461
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Speaker 1: be okay to laugh at yourself, but like being real

462
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Speaker 1: is the only thing that actually matters, And so that

463
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Speaker 1: you guys were able to do that. Was there any

464
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Speaker 1: part of this book, Gia where you said maybe we

465
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Speaker 1: shouldn't put this in?

466
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Speaker 2: Was did that ever come up?

467
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Speaker 4: Not in this book but in real life, real love.

468
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Speaker 4: There were many many topics that we said, this might

469
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Speaker 4: not be for public consumption, but just it's like Shaq said,

470
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Speaker 4: it's like we had to get over ourselves in a sense,

471
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Speaker 4: because when you're writing a book, when you're sharing with

472
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Speaker 4: the masses, there's no value there whatsoever. If you're not transparent,

473
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Speaker 4: if you're not authentic, if you're not real, if you

474
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Speaker 4: don't tell the complete, unadulterated truth, there's no value there

475
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Speaker 4: because if you wrap everything up and put it in

476
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Speaker 4: a pretty package a and put a bow on it,

477
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Speaker 4: who can relate to that? At that point? It's not relatable.

478
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Speaker 4: It's not something that a person that might be in

479
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Speaker 4: a similar situation can look at and say, I get it,

480
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Speaker 4: and I'm not the only one. And now how did

481
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Speaker 4: they get over it? Because that's what I need to know.

482
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Speaker 4: How did they get through it? How did they navigate that?

483
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Speaker 4: That's what I need to know because for the person reading,

484
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Speaker 4: they're probably too embarrassed to share it with their family,

485
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Speaker 4: their friends, or they don't know how to ask, or

486
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Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of things that are a

487
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Speaker 4: little untouchable that we touched and it really did put us,

488
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Speaker 4: like you said, probably in a lot of group chats

489
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Speaker 4: and whatnot, and we did get bombarded, but there was

490
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Speaker 4: value there. I mean, we were on vacation, we were

491
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Speaker 4: in Turks and Caicos and a family it was two

492
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Speaker 4: parents and three kids. They came up to us and

493
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Speaker 4: they were like, Oh, you're Giah, you're envy. Oh my gosh,

494
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Speaker 4: it's so nice to meet you. I just want to

495
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Speaker 4: let you know that you saved our marriage. Your book

496
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Speaker 4: saved our marriage. If it wasn't for your book, we

497
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be sitting here on this vacation as a family.

498
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Speaker 4: We were headed to divorce. And at that point, everything

499
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Speaker 4: that we were bombarded with, it didn't matter. Who cares.

500
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Speaker 4: You know, when you put parts of you out there

501
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Speaker 4: that can transform or alter people's lives in a good way.

502
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Speaker 4: You don't care about all the naysayers or people that

503
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Speaker 4: have fun with it, because the reason why you wrote

504
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Speaker 4: the book isn't about that.

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Speaker 7: So speaking of the naysayers when you heard all the nonsense,

506
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Speaker 7: does that upset you? Because I got people in my

507
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Speaker 7: family that they be in the comments where.

508
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Speaker 3: No, we got family members and friends that want to attack.

509
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Speaker 3: But you realize that me who cares. So one of

510
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Speaker 3: the conversations was, I tell everybody all the time when

511
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Speaker 3: I first met I never had a sex conversation with

512
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Speaker 3: my dad, right, So when I met Gain and the

513
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: first time we were getting intimate, my sex conversation came

514
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Speaker 3: from porn.

515
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Speaker 5: Right.

516
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Speaker 3: So you think you got to smash it all out,

517
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Speaker 3: and I'm, you know, going in that sorry just like

518
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Speaker 3: you going hard, right, But you realize it was in

519
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Speaker 3: the book it out go ahead, but you but that's

520
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Speaker 3: the truth.

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Speaker 5: Right, You think you you gotta be a man, didn't

522
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Speaker 5: go for everyone.

523
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Speaker 7: When you get home to clouds together with that pillow

524
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Speaker 7: and take yours right to the couch.

525
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Speaker 3: So that's what you think. And then you realize, you know,

526
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Speaker 3: we got into an argument one time. My mind, you've

527
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Speaker 3: been together thirty one years. We get into the argument

528
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Speaker 3: and my wife's howl. At the time we were young

529
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Speaker 3: twenty three, yeah, about twenty three twenty four. We get

530
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Speaker 3: into an argument and my wife says, well, that's why

531
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Speaker 3: I never had an orgasm.

532
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Speaker 4: Through sex, through sex intercourse, and.

533
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Speaker 5: Bro, I was crushed.

534
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Speaker 3: I was hurt, like, I'm that's tough. So I had

535
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: to after that conversation, we had to actually learn each

536
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: other's bodies and I had to learn her body and

537
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Speaker 3: learn what it was.

538
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Speaker 5: But at first it was difficult.

539
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Speaker 3: So when I put this in the book, that was

540
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Speaker 3: the thing that was trending, you know, they started to

541
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Speaker 3: go for me, poor Gead.

542
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Speaker 4: But you know, but wait, I do have to correct something,

543
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Speaker 4: and this might be valuable for a lot of men

544
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Speaker 4: to know, and a lot of women as well. I

545
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Speaker 4: wasn't having an orgasm through intercourse because of me. It's

546
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Speaker 4: not because he watched porn and he was had you

547
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Speaker 4: put it smashing it all out? Is that? Yes, man,

548
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 4: it's not because of that. It's because I was young.

549
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 4: We were fifteen and sixteen when we met. We waited

550
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Speaker 4: one year to the day for me to lose my

551
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Speaker 4: virginity and we were novices. I didn't know my own body,

552
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Speaker 4: and I was so busy wanting to be insatiable for

553
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Speaker 4: him and wanting to perform, and you know, thinking of

554
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Speaker 4: women as sex objects, because that's how it's presented to

555
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Speaker 4: you in the media at the time of the time.

556
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 4: It wasn't social media, but just in the media on billboards,

557
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: women are supposed to be sexy and play things for men,

558
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Speaker 4: and that's how I interpreted sex. So I was so

559
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Speaker 4: busy being concerned with him that I neglected myself and

560
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 4: my own needs. It was because of me, and you

561
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Speaker 4: don't do much too different now, it's the same thing.

562
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Speaker 4: It's that I'm in touch with my own mind. I

563
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Speaker 4: know what I like, and I'm concentrating more on the

564
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Speaker 4: love that I have for him and the intimacy, and

565
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Speaker 4: that's what leads me to orgasm. So it really it

566
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Speaker 4: was never it was never you.

567
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Speaker 7: It was all right, switch the subject, bro.

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Speaker 1: Let's go with a big break. It's sponsored by our

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Speaker 7: When it comes to teenagers and cars. Who teaches the

572
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Speaker 7: kids how to draft? And do you buy new or

573
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Speaker 7: you curse? I answer that first, girls get whatever they want. Boys, no, nope.

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Speaker 3: I usually teach the kids how to drive. Now this

575
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Speaker 3: is where me and Shaq different. I work hard, I

576
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 3: bust my ass and because of that, we're able to

577
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Speaker 3: have more than most. I'm that father that wants to

578
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Speaker 3: pass away seeing what my kids had. Opposed to passing

579
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Speaker 3: away and giving my kids stuff, I like to watch

580
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Speaker 3: them enjoy it. So when my kids get of age,

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Speaker 3: I want to see them drive, the do cool stuff

582
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Speaker 3: and have the cool stuff. And that's just who I am.

583
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Speaker 3: So like when my daughter turned sixteen to seventeen, I

584
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Speaker 3: bought a rain drover. When my son got of age,

585
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Speaker 3: we brought my Corvette like I wanted him.

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Speaker 7: I want.

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Speaker 3: I want to see my son enjoy their good kids,

588
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Speaker 3: their grades are good, they do what they're supposed to

589
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: do in the house. I'm gonna do that for they

590
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Speaker 3: And that's that's who I am as that and they

591
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Speaker 3: charges dam that's.

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Speaker 5: It, dam, but that But that's how I feel with

593
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Speaker 5: the kids.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I teach him how to drive, and as

595
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: long as it makes sense, and I let my kids drive.

596
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Speaker 3: Everyone of my cast, there's not one card I could

597
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: be like, you can't.

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Speaker 5: Drive, I do it.

599
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Speaker 3: Will take the ferrari my sonat it doesn't matter, like,

600
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: take it, go enjoy it.

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Speaker 7: Hell.

602
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Speaker 5: I want to see them enjoy it like that. That's

603
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Speaker 5: how I am.

604
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 7: That's good. I remember one of my sons. I told

605
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Speaker 7: him say, hey, you get all a's in school, get

606
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 7: whatever you want. So he come back. He showed me

607
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 7: the six hundred. Like, bro, you're not getting a bench.

608
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 7: Take your ass to the dodge. Talk to my boy,

609
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 7: Dion Wallace over there. I already got the black on

610
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Speaker 7: the back of Georgia Way. You're not getting no bends.

611
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 7: But the girls I like to spoil. But the guys

612
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 7: I like to kind.

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Speaker 4: Of you know, how do they feel about that?

614
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Speaker 7: Boy? I don't want to say they get upset, but

615
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 7: you know they understand because I told them, I said, listen, bro,

616
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 7: your sister's gonna get a lot more than you guys get.

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00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 7: That's that's just the way it is. When women you

618
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Speaker 7: gotta protect, provide, they just gonna get a lot more.

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Speaker 7: So when they get stuff and you don't get it,

620
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Speaker 7: I don't want to hear it. Like they can come

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Speaker 7: and stay here, y'all, can't. They can come stay here

622
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Speaker 7: and do whatever they want. Over here. Y'all can out

623
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Speaker 7: when y'all get eighteen nineteen twenty, get out, get out,

624
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 7: stay out like you know you like like like you

625
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 7: can come visit and all that, but you know so

626
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Speaker 7: I mean, but like my oldest daughter, she was back

627
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Speaker 7: and forth from Atlanta Houston. She can come in. You

628
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Speaker 7: up my other two days. But like my boys, like

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Speaker 7: all right.

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Speaker 5: Man to the street lights.

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Speaker 7: You know, Oh Dad, I want to go here. Yeah,

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681
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Speaker 3: There's many different things that The first thing in this

682
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: day and age, and I'm sure that at any fall

683
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Speaker 3: they here deals with it is social media.

684
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Speaker 7: Right.

685
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: People like to get validated through social media and we

686
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: make sure that our kids are validated at home. We

687
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Speaker 3: make sure that they have that feeling at home. If

688
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Speaker 3: they're looking for the outside world to validate your kids,

689
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: they're gonna validate them in a way that you don't want.

690
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: That's what it causes anxiety, depression, suicide.

691
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Speaker 5: And all that.

692
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Speaker 3: So we make sure that our kids know that there's

693
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 3: a safe place to land at home. It sounds corny,

694
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: it sounds crazy, but what we did as a family

695
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: with our six kids is we created kind of like

696
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: a mission statement. Now when I say missions statement, I

697
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: don't think it's like it's on the door, like you

698
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: got to read it every time you come in. But

699
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: it's a policy that we put into play that we

700
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: all talk about so that we're all comfortable. And I'll

701
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 3: just read it real fast. So one is, we are

702
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: a unit, right, we are the Casey Crew. We ride

703
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: with each other. The other is we respect each other.

704
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: No matter what argument, whatever happens in our house, we

705
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: respect each other. We always uplift each other and point

706
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: out the good in one another. No matter what somebody's

707
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: going through the pain, we always make sure that they

708
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: feel good. They have their heads raised at all times.

709
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: We represent each other at all time. If my kids

710
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: is outside at your house, at Shack's house, Shack better

711
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: call me and say yo.

712
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Speaker 5: Your kids are the most respectable.

713
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: They have manners, they say thank you, they offer to

714
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: wash the dishes, they want us to take out the trash.

715
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: We're rooted in family, fun and faith. We pray every day,

716
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: we have fun every day. We are a family. And

717
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: the last, which is probably the most important, is we

718
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: are each other's soft place to land.

719
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Speaker 5: No matter what goes on in this world, what happens,

720
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Speaker 5: there is a no judgment zone in our household. So

721
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Speaker 5: when our kids come home, whatever happened, good, bad, indifferent,

722
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 5: you know that you can come here and mom and

723
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Speaker 5: Dad will fix it. Don't go to the outside world

724
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Speaker 5: for help. Come home first and let's fix it together.

725
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Speaker 3: So that's pretty much what we do to make sure

726
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Speaker 3: our kids are strong, confident and empowered.

727
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Speaker 4: And instilling a strong sense of self identity, you know,

728
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: because that's where a lot of people, not just children,

729
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 4: are lost when you don't know who you are and

730
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: where you come from. When you leave the house, you're

731
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: leaving it up to people outside to tell you who

732
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: you are and who you should be and that's an

733
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: essence and insecurity that a lot of people carry around

734
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: they don't even know that they have. And that's where

735
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 4: you wind up being taken advantage of, misled, overlooked, and

736
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: left to kind of feel insignificant. So we want our

737
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 4: kids to know you come from something meaningful. This home

738
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: is meaningful. The opinions of the people within these walls

739
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 4: are meaningful because we are the people that love you.

740
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: We're not the people that are jealous of you. We're

741
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: not the people that are going to hate on you.

742
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: We're not the people that are going to root for

743
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 4: your downfall. We're the people that love you. So we're

744
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 4: the only people that matters. Your teachers don't even matter

745
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: your teachers. If your teachers tell you something good, that's wonderful,

746
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: come home, let's talk about it, and we'll back it up.

747
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: But sometimes there are teachers that don't even want the

748
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 4: best for you. Whatever you get from the outside, you

749
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 4: bring it home and let us confirm it.

750
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Speaker 7: As a parent, I had to learn how to be

751
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 7: a little bit softer almost self. My dad wasn't soft,

752
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 7: So with my kids have to be a little softer.

753
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 7: For for example, one of my sons come home and

754
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 7: say God was mentioned with And my response is, okay,

755
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 7: punch you minutes my fucking face tomorrow. So don't you

756
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 7: see him in school borrow. I don't give a fuck

757
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 7: what the teacher doing, you walk up to him face. Obviously,

758
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 7: we can't live like that anymore. So I made up

759
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 7: not a mission thing, but I kind of made up

760
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 7: quote for my kids because some of them are read comments.

761
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 7: I remember when Sharif was going through this heart surgery.

762
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 7: I asked himtill what's wrong? He said, Dad, am I

763
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 7: gonna die? Like no, he's gonna die. Because one of

764
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 7: the guys in the comments said, you know this surgery.

765
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 7: You know a lot of people don't wake up from

766
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 7: the surgery. So I had to kind of make a quote.

767
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 7: So my quote to them is if a nobody can

768
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Speaker 7: influence somebody, then then nobody wins. But the question of

769
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 7: the day is who the fuck are you? Nobody listen

770
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 7: to me. I interviewed. I interviewed all the top doctors

771
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 7: in the world. He's the top. And if you don't

772
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 7: wake up, I'm gonna be on TV because I'm gonna

773
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 7: kill this mother. But so like I have, you know,

774
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 7: I have to teach them not to listen to the outside.

775
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 7: You know, it's it's kind of hard because I don't

776
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 7: understand how you can listen to somebody you don't know.

777
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 4: My dad always used to say, whenever someone tells you something,

778
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: no matter what it is, always consider the source. Whenever

779
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 4: someone on the outside tells you something, you always have

780
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 4: to consider the source.

781
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 7: Because I'm gonna just get up a little bit, one

782
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 7: of my fuckers say something.

783
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: You have to understand a person's perspective and why they

784
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 4: may have that opinion of you, or why they might

785
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 4: be saying something to you. And sometimes, just like you said,

786
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 4: and nobody is influencing somebody, it's because somebody gave that

787
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 4: nobody the power to influence them. And that's a choice.

788
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: And that's what we talk about in our book. You know,

789
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: the subtitle is a guide to raising Empowered Kids. We

790
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 4: want our kids to be armed with that knowledge before

791
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: that nobody even has a chance with them.

792
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 2: I had a question.

793
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: So my son is like a year and a half

794
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: and we're already starting to talk about you know, like

795
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: right now, he's under our care all the time, and

796
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: so Andy, he's copying us all the time. He mimics

797
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: the way we are, and we're trying to build that

798
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: good foundation.

799
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: How do y'all handle when you.

800
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: Realize that you're going to have to turn over your

801
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: kid to other people during the day, whether it is

802
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: they go to school, whether it is they have like

803
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: coaches and things like that. But then also the notion

804
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: of like, eventually they're going to go to college and

805
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: you have to just let them be them at that point,

806
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: and you need to hope that your foundation was strong

807
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: enough that and the relationship is strong enough they can

808
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: come back to you. But how do you guys deal

809
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: with the different stages of trusting the world with your

810
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: most important possession.

811
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Speaker 4: I want to say something about that. You don't mind

812
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: for me, there is no letting go. There is no

813
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 4: letting go. My daughter, our oldest child, is twenty three.

814
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 4: My son is twenty one. He goes to you Miami.

815
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 4: He plays football there, and that tough kid calls me

816
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 4: five six times a day just to say what's up,

817
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 4: to FaceTime me from the club, to FaceTime me from

818
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: the boat, to tell me this, to ask me a question,

819
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 4: to get my opinion about a girl that he might

820
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: be considering. He wants to get a tattoo that twenty one,

821
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: if he wants to get a tattoo, he should be

822
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 4: able to get a tattoo. But I told him at

823
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: this point, he's not getting a tattoo. And he has

824
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: to listen to me because I'm his mother, And I

825
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 4: told him, I don't care if you're thirty. If I

826
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 4: tell you that you're not going to do something, you're

827
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: not going to do it. Why because I have your

828
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: best interest at heart. The reason I don't want him

829
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: to get a tattoo was because that twenty one, I

830
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 4: don't think that he has the mind frame to decide

831
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: on what image he wants on his body for the

832
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: rest of his life. When you come home this summer,

833
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: let's talk about it. Let's figure out what it is

834
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: that you want, and then we're going to find the

835
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 4: best tattoo artist in the country. We'll go there and

836
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 4: maybe you'll get a tattoo. But I'm going to make

837
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: sure that I'm thinking about things that you might not

838
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: be thinking of, and when you're thirty, there might be

839
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: things that I'm thinking of that you're not thinking of,

840
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 4: and at that point it'll be a willingness. Right now,

841
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 4: it's because you have to but truthfully, it's also a willingness.

842
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: Our kids concede to us because they trust us. I

843
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: don't get a kick back. I don't get mom, I'm

844
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 4: twenty one, haygen to tell me what what I'm supposed

845
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 4: to be doing? Like, I don't get that? Is all

846
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 4: right mom? Okay, no, I get it. You know, when

847
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: you raise your kids a certain way, they really trust you.

848
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: They take your leave because they know that you want

849
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 4: them to have their best life.

850
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 7: So do your kids talk back? No, my girls talk back.

851
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 7: I can't do it. My boys don't talk about my girls.

852
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 7: They a little.

853
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: Sassy, little sassy. How old are they are?

854
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 7: They are twenty eight, twenty four and twenty It's really

855
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 7: it's not really a talk about. I kind of want

856
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 7: to say I like it. I kind of like that

857
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 7: they didn't know they're grown. I really like disrespect. But

858
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 7: sometimes they talk back.

859
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: How you feel about it? When it happens, I have

860
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 4: to let.

861
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 7: It go because I can't. You know, ever since they

862
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 7: were little, if I if I give them a crazy

863
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 7: even though if I give him a crazy phase, it'll

864
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 7: break them down too much. Oh my boys, I go off.

865
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 7: Oh I go crazy on the boys.

866
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 4: So my boy, my same twenty one year old. He

867
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 4: didn't talk back to me, but he spoke to me

868
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 4: in a tone that I didn't like about two years ago,

869
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: and I didn't like to look on his face. And

870
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: I told him, I said, yeah, your tuition is about

871
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 4: to not get paid. You're about to sit out a semester.

872
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: And for me, it wasn't an overreaction. It's you need

873
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 4: to understand your place. You don't get to have that

874
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: look in your face when you talk to me, and

875
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 4: you don't get to have that tone. And I yanked

876
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: his car. I yanked his car. Did not have that car,

877
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 4: and he was about to sit out a semester at school.

878
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: And he got it because he knew that we were serious.

879
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: Like when you threaten, you have to follow through. It

880
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 4: can't be empty promises, empty threats. Like if I stand

881
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 4: for something and I tell you this is what it's

882
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 4: going to be if you continue down this road. If

883
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 4: you know that I'm going to follow through, then guess

884
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: what you're going to fix up? Because you want to

885
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 4: have to endure that so our kids know us and

886
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 4: they know that we're built like that, so they don't

887
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 4: test us.

888
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 7: How do you turn your DJ Breakfast Club well, when you.

889
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: Go home, how do I tell my voice off?

890
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 7: You just turn off that because you know sometimes.

891
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: As soon as I leave, I'm just dad. Like my

892
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: kids don't look at me as anything else but Dad.

893
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 7: You know.

894
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: It's funny when sometimes we go out and people want

895
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: to take pictures, they just like a dad, you've done.

896
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: Come on, Dad, like it is what it is. They

897
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: don't look at it any other way. My oldest son,

898
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: twenty one year old, he uses it like he what.

899
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: You'll be in the club and every three in the

900
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 3: morning and I see a FaceTime coming in and I

901
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 3: know he's somewhere. When he sees somebody at the door

902
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: that might know me, he face times me your dad,

903
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: yo yoe, and then he'll get in or he'll face

904
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: time me. He's at like, uh, what was it? It was

905
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 3: Super Bowl weekend. He's in New Orleans.

906
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 5: He's in the club face time. He with Cardi b Yo,

907
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 5: Cardy Yo?

908
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 7: What's up?

909
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Cardy's like, you're envy. I'm not hanging out with you.

910
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: No more making out with your son. He's more fun.

911
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: Like last week in Miami, he's with fifty. I'm like,

912
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: he just used but you know what, I'm not mad

913
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: at that because I work my ass off and so

914
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: many different communities and coaches use their connections, use their arms.

915
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: So I'm like, if dad worked hard for you to

916
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 3: be able to get in the club or be able

917
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: to get.

918
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 5: In a restaurant or do something that you want to do,

919
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it. Please believe it.

920
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: If my son is out and Shaq is DJing, he's

921
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: gonna be like, Dad.

922
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 5: Can you call Shaq? Can you call Shacks? People to

923
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 5: give it?

924
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: He is, And then when he gets on stage, he's

925
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: gonna FaceTime me and show you like he is that kid.

926
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 7: That's awesome, He's that kid.

927
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: Uh in terms of access.

928
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: So there's this trend that I'm noticing in sports right

929
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: now about the athletes were rooting for now old enough

930
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: that their children are playing, and there's a lot of commentary.

931
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: So we've seen it with Lebron and Bronni and then

932
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: with the NFL Draft. We're seeing it now with Dianna

933
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: and Shador. And what's been interesting to me is, man,

934
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: people are really willing to go and talk about whether

935
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: you're parenting well or not. And I think we all

936
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: understand how individual and difficult parenting can be.

937
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: What do you think about what's happening right now?

938
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: Of we saw lebron apparently step two stephen A because

939
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: he questioned him as a father. What do you think

940
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: of commenting on other people's the way they bring up

941
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: their children.

942
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: I feel like you got to watch it tone and

943
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: watch your mouth when you talk about somebody as a parent. Right,

944
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: if you want to talk about you feel that Bronni

945
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: is not good enough, Bronni doesn't score enough, Bronni is

946
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: not a graded shooting, dunk in, dribbling, whatever, That's fine

947
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 3: because that's part of the game.

948
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 5: That's what you're supposed to do.

949
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 3: You're an analyst and you're supposed to talk to somebody's

950
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: athleticism and playing basketball, right, same thing with you should do,

951
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 3: or same thing with Shiloh if you want to talk

952
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: about them as athletes. I don't have a problem with it.

953
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: But when you start breaking down who a parent is,

954
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 3: who a father is, who that is, that's when there's

955
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: a problem. And I tell everybody all the time, you

956
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: can play with me all day long, you could joke

957
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 3: me all day long, but when you bring my kids

958
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 3: into it, or you bring my wife into it, I'm

959
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: ready to fight and I could win some.

960
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 5: I could lose some.

961
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: But like you said, with your father, my dad taught

962
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: me you got to protect and provide, and that's my

963
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: two things. And when it gets to that point, I'm

964
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: willing to do whatever for my family.

965
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 5: It is what it is.

966
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 7: I'm a big family. Your show and I saw when

967
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 7: you did what you did with mister Tyrese. I was

968
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 7: commendable because you were very, very professional. What's the wild

969
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 7: of things happened on that show? My favorite was that

970
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 7: in the very bad situation, well.

971
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 3: Well see the Tyresse incident was you know, for people

972
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: that don't know, me and my wife were going through

973
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: a hard time. I didn't know Tyrese. We weren't friends,

974
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: and my wife wanted to leave me. Right if you

975
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 3: read the first book, it's in the first book. I

976
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: called my wife on air and I apologized, and I

977
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: was trying to get my family back, trying to get

978
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 3: my wife back, trying to get that love back, that

979
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: trust back, that opportunity. Just the door just open enough

980
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 3: so I can slide in it and improve that I.

981
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 5: Wasn't involved and changed person.

982
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: One day, when I'm gonna writ ano book, I'm gonnaell

983
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: you what Shaq told me during that time.

984
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 5: We ain't gonnak about now.

985
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 7: Y don't play with people's mama stake.

986
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 5: Thank god I didn't. Thank god I didn't listen to Shack.

987
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I called him away. Hey man, hey man,

988
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 7: let me tell you something. Man.

989
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: So when somebody says something disrespectful, the first thing I

990
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 3: try to do is, I'm not the type of person

991
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 3: that I can.

992
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 5: Hold it in right. If I see you, we gotta

993
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 5: have a conversation whatever it is.

994
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 3: Either you're gonna apologize, you're not gonna apologize, and we're

995
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: gonna settle it right then and there. And I don't

996
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: care what it is like.

997
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 5: I didn't have fights. I lost.

998
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: I didn't have fights I want. I'm not here to win.

999
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: I'm just here to gain that respect. And I felt

1000
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: like he crossed the line. And when he crossed the line,

1001
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: I told him how I felt. Now, what I do

1002
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: respect about people is when you have a conversation with.

1003
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 5: Him, it's right there to your face. It's right there

1004
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 5: to your face, right there to your face.

1005
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 3: What I don't respect with anybody that's coming to Breakfast

1006
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: Club that I ever had a problem with, is once

1007
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 3: we deal with it, right then and there, it's over.

1008
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: But now look when you go home and you read

1009
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: a comment and then you want to make a comment

1010
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: of what you would have did or what you should

1011
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: have did. Nah, you had your opportunity, we would face

1012
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: to face. You could have did it to my face.

1013
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: After that, I don't respect it and I don't answer

1014
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: it anymore because you.

1015
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 5: Had your chance to talk to me. You had your

1016
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 5: chance to say what you had to.

1017
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: Say back, and you didn't. So that was with the

1018
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: Tyree sting. With the Birdman thing. Birdman was just hot

1019
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 3: right at the breakfast club. There's a window there, and

1020
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 3: the way he was pacing back and forth, I knew

1021
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: it was going to be some action, Like I just

1022
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: knew it.

1023
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: People I always asked, were you scared? No, I wasn't scared.

1024
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: The reason I wasn't scared was the people that Birdman

1025
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: came with were all my friends from New York, the

1026
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: ones that were holding him down, with all of the

1027
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: gangsters and people that I knew from New York. So

1028
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: I knew I wasn't going to get hurt.

1029
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 5: But it was just a It was probably.

1030
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: One of the first viral moments ever, and it just

1031
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: kept going to the point where I mean, to this day,

1032
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: are you finished?

1033
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: All You're done? All trick y'all. I mean, it's just

1034
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 5: something that just keeps going.

1035
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: It just lives forever, which I'm grateful for put some

1036
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: respect on my name. It's just something that lives forever,

1037
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: which is always done. I mean, Birdman called after you apologize.

1038
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: We haven't had it out there after, but we love

1039
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: to have bird Man. It's no love loss for bird Man.

1040
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 7: So six kids, I can tell Mama's the boss of disciplaining.

1041
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 7: But I'll ask you who hands out the disciplines in

1042
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 7: the finance because maybe my six kids.

1043
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: I never, no, never, you know what it is that

1044
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: the kids they don't mess with me. I have to

1045
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: look where the kids don't mess with me, but they

1046
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 3: mess with mommy, right, and then.

1047
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 5: I'm always the bad guy.

1048
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 3: When it goes too far, then I'm the bad guy

1049
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 3: because Dennis, Dennis, Yo, why you talk to your mom

1050
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: like that? I mean, let me, that's what it is.

1051
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: But I never, you know, my pops never hit me

1052
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: like so I didn't. I just he just had that.

1053
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 5: Look. Well, my kids, I just think I just have

1054
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 5: to look and they don't they don't mess with me.

1055
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: But with the Middles, there's I don't I don't know

1056
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 4: if there's ever really been anything. So the Middles are

1057
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 4: eleven ten eight, and then the baby is three, but

1058
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 4: are two older. So I think it's more so maybe

1059
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 4: like the growing pains with the two older ones, because

1060
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 4: they were kind of like our guinea pigs. You know,

1061
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: they're the ones that we threw up against the wall

1062
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 4: to see what's stuck, and then we knew what to

1063
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 4: discard and then what to keep for the middle batch,

1064
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 4: and then we're gonna rear the baby with it as well.

1065
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: But you know, we never really we don't get that

1066
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 4: with the Middles. The Middles they don't talk back, they're

1067
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 4: not fresh. They pretty much do as they they're told,

1068
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 4: and they live a very happy life. But the first two, yeah,

1069
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 4: you know, there's there was a few little things there

1070
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: with them that had to be worked out.

1071
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 5: And that three year old has no respect for me.

1072
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: I just wanted to put it out there has no

1073
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: like that three year old.

1074
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 5: Be test what you have in store. Three just want

1075
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 5: you to know when it turned three.

1076
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 4: But you know what it's because she looks just like you,

1077
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 4: Jesus doppelganger.

1078
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I never really jumped up my kids because a

1079
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 7: lot of stuff that they did, I would get in

1080
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 7: trouble for it. It would just be funny to me. Like me,

1081
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 7: one time, one of my babies came home and my

1082
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 7: ex was like, he got suspended for fighting. So I

1083
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 7: was like, okay, So I went to the school the

1084
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 7: next day, me and him in the car. I gave

1085
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 7: him a wink. I said, just go along with it.

1086
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 7: I said, just go along with it. Hey, man, next

1087
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 7: time you fighting school, I'm gonna come here. Think it.

1088
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 7: You know, just do all that stuff. But you know,

1089
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 7: after we got in the cars, like where do you want

1090
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 7: to go? You want to go to Hooters? You want

1091
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 7: to go to Canes? Where do you want to go?

1092
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm say I'm the same way. So my twenty one

1093
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: year old got in trouble go to Saint Plaza Wor

1094
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 3: in New Jersey. You know those pops that you throw

1095
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: in it pop? Yeah, he decided he was going to

1096
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 3: go on the second floor and as the.

1097
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 5: Security walk by, the security can starts running. I found

1098
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: out about that.

1099
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: He got in trouble for that, But I I liked

1100
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: that too.

1101
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: Angry Sometimes I think I'm like, man, I couldn't even

1102
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: imagine dating these days. Like I watched like Pop the Balloon,

1103
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: and then I'm like seeing like people talking about fifty

1104
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: to fifty and then I'm seeing people online Like it's

1105
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: just that I just feel like people are going on

1106
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: dates just so they could post about it on social media.

1107
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: Y'all have been together for three decades. Do you ever

1108
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: think about all the craziness that you missed because you

1109
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: haven't had to deal.

1110
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: With that shit?

1111
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 4: Well now, it's like people don't even communicate in a

1112
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: normal fashion. Everything is text, snapchat or a community like

1113
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: dm me, Like what Nobody picks up the phone and talks.

1114
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 4: It's like they don't have a true sense of like

1115
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 4: getting to know each other anymore. It's like some people

1116
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 4: even say that they get offended when someone else calls them,

1117
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: like why are you calling me?

1118
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: Like why did you just I sorry to interrupt?

1119
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: You get like you said something really funny envy earlier

1120
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: about how back then that was pursuing and now it

1121
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: would be called stalking.

1122
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 2: And there are so many movies.

1123
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: Of like standing outside like a bedroom window with a boombox.

1124
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: Like you can't do that shit anymore?

1125
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 4: Oh, you be like you'd be so corny.

1126
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, but also it's like you could call the cops.

1127
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: So my thing is like, we always want to imitate

1128
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: what our parents had, right, So you have six kids

1129
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: that are like, man, my parents have been together for

1130
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: so long, trials and tribulations, and he pursued my mom

1131
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: in such a romantic way.

1132
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: Like how do you advise your kids as they're.

1133
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: In their twenties now with all of the pitfalls of

1134
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: no communication, dating and also like, hey, if you hang

1135
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: out by a track practice in a blue van for two.

1136
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: Months, like that's not going to work anymore. Like, well,

1137
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: what advice do you guys give your kids on that?

1138
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: Well, first, I would say I'm scared for my kids,

1139
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: right because I tell everybody this all the time.

1140
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 5: Where do people usually meet somebody?

1141
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: Right?

1142
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: Where are they the most of the time at their workplace?

1143
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: But you can't even talk to somebody at your workplace

1144
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: because then you go to human resources.

1145
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 5: Because that's a problem. Right then.

1146
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if Shack is single or not, but

1147
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 3: if you have a little bit of money, how do

1148
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: you know that somebody.

1149
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 5: Is there for the right reason?

1150
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: And this day, like people think thirty steps ahead, they

1151
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 3: think five years ahead, Okay, I'm gonna say this, I'm

1152
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: gonna text him this, I'm gonna leave this, and then

1153
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: all of.

1154
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 5: A sudden you get a lawsuit and you'd be like,

1155
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 5: wait a minute, and now you have to prove. But see,

1156
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 5: this is the thing. It's not just a matter of proving.

1157
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 3: It's a matter of I was telling my wife earlier.

1158
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 3: A lot of times these lawyers now use the embarrassment

1159
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: factor for somebody just to cut a check. I'm gonna

1160
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: say this, I'm gonna put it out there and you'll

1161
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 3: lose more than just paying me a check.

1162
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 5: And that's what it is.

1163
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: So it's difficult if you don't see meet somebody in

1164
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: the high school or college.

1165
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 5: I really don't know what to tell my son because

1166
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 5: I wouldn't trust the soul.

1167
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 4: Well, my son he tells every girl that he meets, like,

1168
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 4: if my mom doesn't like you, it's raps.

1169
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 5: Like just know.

1170
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: And I never told him that, But that's just a

1171
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: conclusion that he comes to because ever since I would

1172
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 4: say he was about nine years old when he started

1173
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 4: having like little crushes and things like that, I started

1174
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: teaching him about what it is to be a man

1175
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: and what it is to be faithful and what a

1176
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 4: man's role is in what in a lot of occasions,

1177
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 4: what a woman's role is. So we've been having these conversations,

1178
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 4: so it's not as though, you know, he turned eighteen

1179
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 4: and then it's like, let me teach everything that you

1180
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 4: need to know about relationships, you know. And with my

1181
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 4: daughter it's funny because she's in a relationship now. It's

1182
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 4: her first relationship. Again, she's twenty three and they've been

1183
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 4: together for two years. It's her first relationship. And all

1184
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 4: through her teens she never had a boyfriend. And she

1185
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 4: would say, yeah, I don't find anybody that I'm interested in.

1186
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 4: And I'm like, how can you not find anybody that

1187
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 4: you're interested in? And she's like, because I look at

1188
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: these guys and I think that if I can't have

1189
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 4: with him you and Daddy have, I don't want it.

1190
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: So it's like I sized them up and if they

1191
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: don't have the potential to laugh and joke and be

1192
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: open and play fight and just like roast where we

1193
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 4: can roast each other and just have that organic fun,

1194
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 4: She's like, I don't want it. I look at you

1195
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 4: guys's affection and the attention you paid to each other

1196
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 4: and your pet names, and you know how you guys

1197
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 4: just show each other so much attention. And daddy is

1198
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 4: such a gentleman, Like if I can't get that, like

1199
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: I don't want it. So now she found somebody and

1200
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 4: he's all I love him.

1201
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 5: Good dude, good kid, all of the things. I know.

1202
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: He's a Cleveland fan, which is my biggest problem because

1203
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 3: it's in Ohio. But besides that, now he's a good kid.

1204
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: He's he's not in the music industry. He works at

1205
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: one of those fortune five hundred companies do wealth management,

1206
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: so he's out of the industry.

1207
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: I like him. He just likes to play basketball and

1208
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 5: be with my daughter.

1209
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 3: I love it. He works out, so he's big, so

1210
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: I gotta work about him. Anything happened. He's a protector

1211
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 3: and he's good with my other kids. Like right now,

1212
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: you know we're here, so my daughter is watching the

1213
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: kids and she's sit so he's taking care of everything.

1214
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: He's taking the girls to dance practice, he's taking my

1215
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: son to Soka.

1216
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 5: He's doing all that. So we really like him, like

1217
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 5: like him alive.

1218
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: All right, So all right, now, are you k if

1219
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: I asking like a hypothetical.

1220
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 5: You can ask whatever you want. Everything is clear. We

1221
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 5: asked her whatever in the breakfast club. So I tell

1222
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: anybody you ask me anything.

1223
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Because I have a son and we want a daughter,

1224
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine what that's like. Shack has daughters,

1225
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: and I know Shack has told me stories if he

1226
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: didn't like someone they brought home. What would happen if

1227
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: like your twenty two year old daughter came home was like,

1228
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: I really like this guy and he's.

1229
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 4: Forty yeah, so absolutely not you know.

1230
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: See, but forty years old, there's enough where week I

1231
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,479
Speaker 3: could beat him up, or the friend and the family

1232
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: could beat him up. Like we we still got uncles,

1233
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: like I'm from Queen still, like we still got people

1234
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: out age. We could beat him up and not get

1235
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: in trouble. But now you're not bringing on a forty

1236
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: year old at twenty two. That's not gonna happen like

1237
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 3: so like, but like.

1238
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: I would be so worried that it would be like

1239
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: a movie where I say no and that it pushes

1240
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: her into his arms even more.

1241
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: No, it's we're gonna beat him up to the point

1242
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 3: where she doesn't want to come back home.

1243
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 5: He okay, So he wouldn't make.

1244
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 4: It past our front door. Is this a joke?

1245
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: Like?

1246
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 4: What conversation we have it? When I happened my twenty two

1247
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: year old dating a grown man who's old enough to

1248
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 4: be her father? Yeah, not in the house?

1249
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 7: Ye?

1250
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: All right, what would happen? What would happen? Uh? You know,

1251
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: white guy shows up? How's that go?

1252
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1253
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 4: All day? We don't Yeah, we don't discriminate.

1254
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: But I will say I will say this, Yeah, white

1255
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 3: you got to get these jokes. If you're white and

1256
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 3: you come to the house and you can get the

1257
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 3: jokes and you don't feel uncomfortable, awkward or anything like that,

1258
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 3: I'm cool.

1259
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 5: Because we're gonna give you the jokes. Like is a

1260
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 5: family reunion? And being white is being white? Like I remember,

1261
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 5: being white is being white.

1262
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: So we all we all go on vacation, right, and

1263
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 3: I'm the asshole of the family. Right, we all go

1264
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: on vacation, and we're all in the car and my

1265
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: son has a girlfriend and she's Caucasian at the.

1266
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 5: Time, she's white.

1267
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 4: Well she's still Caucasian, I.

1268
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: Know, but she's not at the time, but they're not

1269
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: together anymore. So in the car, I'm playing music for everybody.

1270
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm playing a nineties song for me. My wife is Caribbean,

1271
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: so I play some Boojie bon time for her. My

1272
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: other auntie is from Trinidad. I played Haiti. I play

1273
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: a Haitian song for her. So with her, I go,

1274
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: I play her song because I miss you. She gets

1275
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: so I can see her face getting red. But I'm

1276
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 3: that person. I'm gonna make fun of you, like when

1277
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 3: you talk to me and be like, oh oh oh,

1278
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: it's just back to the slave days, Like I am that.

1279
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: And if you get uncomfortable, that ain't the house for you.

1280
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 5: We're not the house for you.

1281
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 6: No.

1282
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: Look, my wife is Nigerian and the first time I

1283
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: went over, her dad was DJing in the living room

1284
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: and the like the dance lights were on and me

1285
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: and her mom started dancing immediately and immediately.

1286
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you have rhythm and it but it

1287
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: broke through.

1288
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: And I think, as the white guy, you need to

1289
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: understand you are going to be tested NonStop.

1290
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 5: Of course, and as long as you can hit.

1291
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: Like I dated when I was in high school, I

1292
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: dated a black girl in North Philadelphia and I'll never

1293
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: forget when I parked the car and there was like

1294
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: six dudes on the stoop and they were like, who

1295
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: the fuck are you? And we went up and back

1296
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: and then after a little bit they were like they

1297
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: turn around, they're like, no, he's okay, and like you're

1298
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: gonna get tested, and that's like you just have to

1299
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: be okay with it and not be like what's going

1300
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: on here?

1301
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: Like what do we do?

1302
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 5: What's going on here?

1303
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 4: Now? The only thing we see is love. That's the

1304
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: only thing I care about.

1305
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: Just can't be eighteen years older? That's too much?

1306
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 4: No, yeah, absolutely not.

1307
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: Well, what if your son came with somebody younger?

1308
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 4: How much younger?

1309
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's say he ends up he's twenty eight

1310
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: and she's.

1311
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 4: Nineteen twenty and he's twenty eight. That no, not, there's

1312
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: there's certain points. If someone is forty eight and a

1313
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 4: person is thirty, that's okay. That eighteen year difference is okay.

1314
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 4: The reason is because at eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one,

1315
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 4: who you are You don't even know who you are,

1316
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 4: let alone who that forty year old is, and you're

1317
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 4: so susceptible to being impressionable and being influenced because you

1318
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 4: haven't lived enough, you haven't had enough experience. So at

1319
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 4: that point, it's too much of a gap and age,

1320
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 4: so it's not universal. It's not completely general. I think

1321
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: that it's specific because someone that's young minded.

1322
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 7: Yeah. No, And you say you don't know if I'm

1323
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 7: single or that, And what did just tell you you?

1324
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 5: I said, oh no, just said you were a they

1325
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 5: she gave you got a bunch of white women?

1326
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 7: And how many three?

1327
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 5: Four?

1328
00:59:51,720 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 7: Samantha Timmy Amber. Yeah, I ask you a woman question.

1329
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 7: I was dating a woman one time, and as a

1330
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 7: serial cheater, I was not cheating, but the ex text

1331
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 7: me I love you, and I responded, I love you back.

1332
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 7: She said I was emotional cheating. So my question, is

1333
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 7: there such a name emotional cheating?

1334
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 4: Of course?

1335
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 7: No, yeah, of course I don't.

1336
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think that.

1337
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 7: That that's what she said.

1338
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: I don't think that that in and of itself had

1339
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: ad for emotional cheating. What was the context that she

1340
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 4: just texts you I love you, and that was it?

1341
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 7: She said I love you and I said I love

1342
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,479
Speaker 7: you back, and she picked up the bones you still

1343
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 7: love you.

1344
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 4: You weren't in love with your ex. You just loved her.

1345
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: In love say I love you to everybody.

1346
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 7: But she she was good to me, like I'm not

1347
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 7: gonna be like, oh fuck you. I got to know

1348
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 7: I love you too.

1349
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 5: I don't.

1350
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 4: I don't think that that's emotional cheating. I just think

1351
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 4: that that's inappropriate.

1352
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 7: Okay, but how is it emotional cheating if you don't

1353
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 7: know my emotions. I'm with you, she says, I love you.

1354
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 7: I don't want to be rude because we were nice,

1355
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 7: we had good times. Now I love you back. That's it.

1356
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 7: It's not I love you, you know. She going to Miami

1357
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 7: just I love you back, to thank you, and that

1358
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 7: was it.

1359
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 4: I don't think that that was emotional cheating. I think

1360
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 4: that that was inappropriate.

1361
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 7: For me to say I love you back.

1362
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely. If you're committed, if you're committed to a

1363
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 4: woman and she's committed to you, those words are only

1364
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 4: meant for her. It's not meant for anyone else, unless

1365
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: it's your child, your mother.

1366
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 7: What if that was if that was my ex wife

1367
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,479
Speaker 7: and we got five beautiful kids together, and she says,

1368
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 7: I love you, and even though it didn't work out,

1369
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 7: I'm not allowed to say I love you back, even though.

1370
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 4: I'm text If a person randomly texts you I love you,

1371
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 4: it's not because she was just laying in bed and

1372
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 4: having those nostalgic moments and decided to send you a text.

1373
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 4: That's not what happens. She's sending you a message. It's

1374
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: very direct, it's very specific, it's very short, and if

1375
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 4: you play into that, then it's inappropriate.

1376
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 7: She was fishing. I've never heard the word emotional cheating

1377
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 7: with well, I got treated worse than when I was cheating.

1378
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 7: For emotional cheating, I'm like, I'm not.

1379
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 4: Even doing big difference. If your man has sex with

1380
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 4: someone that he doesn't care about, but doesn't have sex,

1381
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 4: but seek speaks every day to a woman that he

1382
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 4: does care about and that he is emotionally attached to,

1383
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 4: because a woman will write it off like okay, that

1384
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 4: was his primal instinct to have sex with someone that

1385
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 4: he was attracted to, which is terrible in and of itself,

1386
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 4: but someone that he loves, someone that he cares about,

1387
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 4: that he never was even physical with, but he feels

1388
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 4: something for her that hurts more, that cuts deeper, And

1389
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 4: that's where the idea of emotional cheating comes from. It's

1390
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,959
Speaker 4: if I think that you have feelings for someone else,

1391
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 4: and you act on those feelings by the way of

1392
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 4: giving of yourself to them, giving of your feelings and

1393
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 4: your emotions. Yes, there is such thing as emotional cheating,

1394
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 4: because that hurts.

1395
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 7: More well coming from you. I will, I will respect it.

1396
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 7: I always just said that. I don't I don't care

1397
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 7: what no woman says. I don't believe in that.

1398
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 5: Let me ask your question. If she got a text

1399
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 5: from her ex, she responded, I love you too.

1400
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 7: That's a good question, but I'm not giving up the phone.

1401
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 7: And then I always say when I read some I'm

1402
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 7: I have to know what I'm reading. You know what

1403
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 7: I'm saying. What you reading?

1404
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 4: What does that mean?

1405
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 5: Like context?

1406
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 7: Context? Who is it?

1407
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 4: Okay, context?

1408
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 7: Who is it? Because you said it this gear, I will,

1409
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 7: I will taught to respect it like I never respected.

1410
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 7: I'm like, there's no such thing. I don't care what

1411
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 7: you say, because my thing is you have to know

1412
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 7: my emotions. I don't have emotions for this person.

1413
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 5: Just because I.

1414
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:42,479
Speaker 4: Responded, no, no, that sounds good, but that's not no.

1415
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 4: It was like, because the fact that you're engaging with

1416
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 4: another woman.

1417
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 7: But I'm just responding to this gig, I love I

1418
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 7: love you too, I say.

1419
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 4: It's not I love that, but not in that. I'm

1420
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 4: not talking about that. I'm talking about just the topic

1421
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 4: of emotional cheating. I don't need to be a psychic

1422
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 4: and know your emotion or extract that from you. The

1423
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 4: fact that you're engaging with another woman on a personal level,

1424
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 4: that's emotional cheating.

1425
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 7: Got it?

1426
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 4: You see what I mean?

1427
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 7: And do you think men should be emotional? Because I

1428
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 7: said I don't think men should be emotional, and I

1429
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 7: got killed for it one day?

1430
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 4: What do you mean men shouldn't be emotional? Emotional? In

1431
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 4: what way?

1432
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 7: I tell you white problems? The reason and the reason

1433
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 7: why I say because as a man, you protect, you, provide,

1434
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 7: and love. If I tell you my problems, then we

1435
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 7: both have problems. It's my job to make sure we

1436
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 7: don't have problems.

1437
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 4: I don't not disagree with you more or disagree with

1438
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 4: that notion more. My husband is a provider, he's a protector,

1439
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 4: and we share everything. He shares his problems, I share mine.

1440
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 4: We are a team. We work together, we support each other,

1441
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 4: we uplift each other, we help each other. I have

1442
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 4: to be this man's soft place to land. How can

1443
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 4: I be a soft place for him if he doesn't

1444
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 4: communicate to me what he's feeling. So what because I'm

1445
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 4: a woman, my husband has to be out on his

1446
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 4: own on an island, dealing with this world. Is hard

1447
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 4: enough to be a man in this world that it's

1448
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 4: even harder to be a black man. So everything that

1449
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 4: comes along with that. What because he's a man, he's

1450
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 4: supposed to deal with that by himself.

1451
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1452
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 4: No, I couldn't disagree with that more because I got

1453
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 4: killed for that.

1454
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 5: I agree with that.

1455
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: If your wife is your best friend, now you're supposed

1456
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: to make sure that you know that.

1457
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 4: And that's why you have to be an empowered human

1458
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 4: being and a secure human being, because if you listen

1459
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 4: to that and you give credit to that, you don't

1460
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 4: consider the source, and you're susceptible and you live life

1461
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 4: like that, you're living under a force.

1462
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 7: Because to come back to what you said, women have

1463
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 7: to go through a lot too, And I don't want

1464
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 7: to have to put that on you. Let me handle

1465
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 7: it because you've got to deal with the kids, you

1466
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 7: got to deal with that, You've got to do with

1467
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 7: all the stuff you're going through. I don't want to

1468
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 7: put extra on you. So that's why I'm not emotional.

1469
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 7: I'll hold it back especially if I can take care

1470
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 7: of it. I'll just take care of it because I

1471
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 7: want you to have just like you want him to

1472
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 7: ever easy life. I want my wifee So that was

1473
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 7: my whole thought process. I wouldn't want that you emotional

1474
01:05:59,560 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 7: let them.

1475
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is because this is what happened. It was

1476
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 2: us in.

1477
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: A country Wayne, and I was like, oh no, I

1478
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: tell my wife all the time and him and country

1479
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: where we're like, no, I can't tell a woman that

1480
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: They're just going to throw it back in my face later.

1481
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: Uh, they'll just use it against me and believe me.

1482
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: I just want I want to give Shack a hug

1483
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: and I want to tell him it's going to be okay,

1484
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: you know.

1485
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 4: But nope, I just want to say something about that.

1486
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 4: You have to you have to know who you're married

1487
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 4: to or who your partner is, because if you're with

1488
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 4: a woman that will take your emotions and weaponize it

1489
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 4: against you, that's not the woman that you want. That's

1490
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 4: not that's not a good teammate.

1491
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, But sometimes you don't realize it's that kind

1492
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: of a woman until you get into one.

1493
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: Of those serious situations because they can hide a.

1494
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 7: Long time and when you're married too late.

1495
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: Uh man, that was great. I enjoyed it.

1496
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: It means he really likes you a lot, because normally,

1497
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: normally he will argue that one until he is blue

1498
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: in the face. But for you, he said, I will

1499
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: respectfully back up. I think Gia is a formidable foe.

1500
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: I have asked cheat GPT for some situations.

1501
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: Would you like to do something really quick?

1502
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 7: Not with here, I've already I've already. Yeah, I've already

1503
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 7: been worn upstairs with ny No. So we have something

1504
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 7: called cheat GPT where the shack computer helps you get

1505
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 7: out of a certain situation. So I'm gonna play it along,

1506
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 7: but don't take it seriously. Yeah, I don't want to

1507
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 7: get you in trouble at the airport today. I told

1508
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 7: you we're not going in my fucking shackouts a new

1509
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 7: shack wouldn't ship all right, go ahead.

1510
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: I have asked it to focus more on emotional cheating

1511
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: than physical cheating, so some different situations.

1512
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: And scenario one. It came up with the birthday message.

1513
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: It is Shaq's girl's birthday and she posts a cute

1514
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: photo of herself and one of the first comments is

1515
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: from a woman named Tasha and It says happy birthday, Sis,

1516
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: you really got a good one. He used to call

1517
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: me when he couldn't sleep, just to talk about life.

1518
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: Happy you got your King. Shaq is laying in bed

1519
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 2: next to her. She rolls over and shows it, and

1520
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: Shaq says, we were friends.

1521
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: That was years ago. I can't control how she remembers it.

1522
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: Does she have a right to be upset in this?

1523
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. How can she be upset based on the

1524
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 4: comment of someone that she doesn't even know, even if

1525
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 4: every word of it is true. That was before Shaq

1526
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,440
Speaker 4: and her met, so it's irrelevant.

1527
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 7: But would you let me tell you how I would

1528
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 7: have got out of it? Yes, Oh that was my

1529
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 7: psychologist a long time ago.

1530
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 3: Oh psychologists, Yeah, therapist.

1531
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,520
Speaker 5: That was the therapist was over the conversationstead of the comment.

1532
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 4: Okay, oh oh oh, okay, okay.

1533
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: This one, this one is are to earlier. It's called

1534
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: the good Morning Text. Shaq has been dating someone for

1535
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: a while. Things are solid. One morning, he leaves his

1536
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: phone on the table while he's in the kitchen. A

1537
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: text pops up from a contact that says jazz in parentheses, homegirl,

1538
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: and it says good morning.

1539
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 2: King just wanted to remind you how special you are today.

1540
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: Shaq comes back in the room and his girl is

1541
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: staring at him confused.

1542
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: What do we think of this situation, Gia.

1543
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 4: I mean, if it were me, I would say, hey,

1544
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 4: Jazz wants to know want you to know how special

1545
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 4: you are today, King, So I would just slide the

1546
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 4: phone to him and I would see how he reacted,

1547
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 4: because then he would provide an explanation. Not that he's

1548
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 4: held to the standard of having to provide an explanation,

1549
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 4: but I think contexts would dictate that you would kind

1550
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 4: of explain that away.

1551
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 7: What if it was Jazz big Booty Freak Texas.

1552
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have a problem with her title in

1553
01:09:55,080 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 4: the phone being big Booty Freak Texas. So yeah, that

1554
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 4: in and of itself would would give me a moment

1555
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 4: of pause.

1556
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 5: So how would you get out of that one?

1557
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 7: One? Maybe I've had this phone thirty years and you

1558
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 7: know I don't publicize our relationship, but I will tell

1559
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 7: her I tak a patre and be like, this is

1560
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 7: my woman, don't take more, and then block her.

1561
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 4: Very nice, very nice, yes, very nice.

1562
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 7: Hey, that's it.

1563
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 5: That's it.

1564
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, listen, I was upstairs eating breakfast, Kenny

1565
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 7: grabbed me by my neck. Don't be fucking around with

1566
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 7: it and his wife doing that. Cheat. That's it.

1567
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 5: I'm done.

1568
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 7: I'm done. She's nice to play along, but nope, I'm done.

1569
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: We're done, big fellow.

1570
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: I want to take some time and give a huge

1571
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: shout out to the people over at Doveman Plus Care.

1572
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: What we were able to do for March.

1573
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: Madness, getting down there to San Antonio would not have

1574
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: been possible with what they put together for us. I

1575
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: want to give a shout out for this incredible partnership.

1576
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: Thank you for making it happen. I saw our guy

1577
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: Darrell Bailey getting the crew hopping in the car, finding

1578
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 1: their way down there in San Antonio. But I do

1579
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 1: want to ask about this clip right here from Anthony

1580
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 1: Hamilton Junior.

1581
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 5: If you think.

1582
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 3: You're still block mine dunk, of course, all right, we're

1583
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 3: gonna see you.

1584
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna found me.

1585
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get you.

1586
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: So he came to you and said, do you think

1587
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: you can block my dunk? And you said you'd throw

1588
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: some weight into it. I'm just curious if a one

1589
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: on one happened and we're playing to eleven and the

1590
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: dude has serious hops.

1591
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: What is the final score? And are you hurting him?

1592
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 7: You try to dunkle me, you will get laid on

1593
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 7: your back. This is what I did to my good

1594
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 7: friend Vince carl And check this out.

1595
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 5: You're gonna faint. Shout out.

1596
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 4: Jack Black is down hard on his shoulder and Backlent

1597
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 4: Harter dank our players the first to attend to him.

1598
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 5: He's hurting and he's down.

1599
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 7: The score would be eleven or nothing. If I get

1600
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 7: the ball just going back, you down, Caruso can't guard me.

1601
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: I'd like to see that.

1602
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 1: Thanks to the Dove Men's influencers for making the trips,

1603
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: showing up and showing out. We do have a special

1604
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: gifts coming your way. But thanks one.

1605
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: More time to the great people at Doveman Plus Care.

1606
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna do ask doctor O'Neill, which is a variation

1607
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: of what we just did. People send in their issues

1608
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: all the time, whether it is infidelity or the partners,

1609
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: and because doctor O'Neil is a real doctor, he can

1610
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: fix things.

1611
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 7: He and E.

1612
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 2: Jmv Are both now doctors. This comes from Michelle quote.

1613
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: My daughter and I were talking about how other cultures

1614
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: have arranged marriages. She said she'd be open to me

1615
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: introducing her to potential suitors when the time comes. I

1616
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: got excited about the prospect of being able to help

1617
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: her pick a husband someday because I'd like to believe

1618
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: my experience can help her make a better choice. But

1619
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: my husband isn't with it. He thinks we should stay.

1620
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: Out of it and let her pick her own husband.

1621
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 2: I said, why not. We give her life of advice

1622
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: all the time, and we help guide her on a

1623
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 2: lot of things. Doctor Shack, would you ever arrange dates

1624
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 2: with guys who think would be best for your daughter

1625
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 2: if she was cool with it? And then what do

1626
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 2: you guys think of the situation as a whole?

1627
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 7: No, because I don't want to look like I'm paying

1628
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 7: to use this word. What's a better word for selling what?

1629
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 7: I don't auctioning.

1630
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 5: Selling his daughter or daughter? Or Yeah, I agree with you.

1631
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be in that part of my

1632
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 3: daughter's son's relationship. I wouldn't want to set her up

1633
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 3: or make it feel like I have influence on that relationship.

1634
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 7: So now, however, I always tell my like I always

1635
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 7: tell my daughter the horror stories. I always tell them

1636
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,799
Speaker 7: stay away from people like me like I'm I'm I'm

1637
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 7: your daddy back in the day. Your daddy wouldn't shit

1638
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 7: stay away from people like me like I would like,

1639
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 7: and then like I like, I always think about the future.

1640
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 7: You're gonna have what you have. You meet a guy

1641
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 7: that has what he has, you put that together and

1642
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 7: it's forever. If you have to get somebody that you

1643
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 7: have to support, it's never gonna work. Like I always

1644
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 7: tell my daughters, like, you have to get somebody above you,

1645
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 7: and she'd be like, what do you mean above you? Like,

1646
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 7: if you get somebody that's under you and you have

1647
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 7: to take care of in the long run, it's not

1648
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 7: gonna work. But I wouldn't want to be an effort,

1649
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 7: Like I just try to sit back and watch them.

1650
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 7: A couple of them I don't like. I don't really

1651
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 7: say much. I give them the eye and you know

1652
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 7: I give them. I give them, you know, the one

1653
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 7: sending speech. You hurt my daughter, next time you see me,

1654
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 7: it ain't gonna be nothing to talk about. Like I.

1655
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,799
Speaker 7: You know, they argue and fight and do all that stuff,

1656
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 7: like you put your hands on my baby, or you

1657
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 7: hurt my baby, just my baby. You try to use

1658
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 7: my baby to get to me, I'm gonna have to

1659
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 7: see you, but I don't. I don't get involved that.

1660
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,879
Speaker 7: And then my boys, I just tell them to date everybody,

1661
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 7: keep it going. I'm just messing with you.

1662
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 4: But I don't dislike that there. I don't dislike the

1663
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 4: date everybody. What I tell my son is you can

1664
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 4: date as many girls as you want. I don't care

1665
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 4: if you turn a different girl over every month, that's fine.

1666
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 4: The only thing that matters to me is that you're

1667
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 4: honest with them, that you're safe, and that you can

1668
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 4: checked yourself. You treat them with kindness and respect, but

1669
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 4: you don't make any promises that you can't keep, and

1670
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 4: you never ever be a cheater. You can own your truth,

1671
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 4: live in your truth. If you're just having fun, let

1672
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 4: them know that you're just having fun. If it's not serious,

1673
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 4: let them know that. I don't care how many girls

1674
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 4: you eat that you date, just be honest with them.

1675
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 7: If I go on a date with somebody and I

1676
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 7: have a girlfriend, is that cheating?

1677
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,959
Speaker 4: If you have a girlfriend, is that a trick question?

1678
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 4: If you're dating someone that you're committed to, that you

1679
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 4: come to an agreement that it's exclusive. If you're going

1680
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,560
Speaker 4: to date with somebody else. Thing, Yes, that is cheating.

1681
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 7: Since somebody else is cheating.

1682
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 5: Also depends what the context.

1683
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 7: Okay, got it?

1684
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,480
Speaker 5: HE'SI okay, got it?

1685
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 4: Are you a big booty freak from Texas? Because if so,

1686
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 4: I'm interested. Yeah, that would be kind of fall under

1687
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 4: the title of cheating.

1688
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:19,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, because to me, like, I've always thought that women

1689
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 7: have rules that we don't really know and understand. Like

1690
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 7: I'm fIF fifty three, I didn't hear emotional cheating doing

1691
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 7: fifty I'm like, really, like, I got it.

1692
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 4: The rules that you don't know and understand.

1693
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 7: What most men?

1694
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 4: I have a girlfriend and I go on a date

1695
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 4: with somebody else? Is that cheating?

1696
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 7: But but I would so in the criminal world, conspiracy, right,

1697
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 7: you have to make the overt act to be charged

1698
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 7: for the crime. So you're just eating and talking. But

1699
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 7: if I'm not going to the hotel like that part

1700
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 7: going to the hotel line, that's cheating to me. Just

1701
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 7: eating when somebody high, but when won't, that's not really cheating.

1702
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 5: It depends what that person is.

1703
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 3: Like, See, I turned everything around, right, meaning when I

1704
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 3: turn everything around, my girl goes with another guy. Why

1705
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 3: why are you going to lunch with him, unless he's

1706
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 3: a coworker. You just grabbing a salad, and that's something different.

1707
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: But if you're going out at a night and you

1708
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 3: at a restaurant, that's I don't care what the intention

1709
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:17,560
Speaker 3: was that.

1710
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 7: If you didn't tell me I'm at a hookah bar,

1711
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 7: there's no other tables and a nice looking girls expensively.

1712
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 4: Cheating, that's not cheating. She said things to you.

1713
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 7: We're talking when we smoke, and people were taking pictures.

1714
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 5: That's not.

1715
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 4: That's not cheating. You do have to consider the intent.

1716
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 4: You say, Oh, you're you're simplifying it. Oh, we just

1717
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 4: went and sat at a restaurant and exchanged the meal,

1718
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:43,759
Speaker 4: had a meal together.

1719
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 2: What if he exchanges what if he exchanges phone numbers.

1720
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 4: At the end, Well, they're already on a date, so

1721
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 4: they already have each other's cellphone.

1722
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 5: He means, if he meets a girl at a hookah.

1723
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 4: Ball, she sits at the table, if you exchange numbers,

1724
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 4: that's cheating. Oh, I mean, am I in the twilight zone.

1725
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 4: I know I'm a room full of men, but you what.

1726
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 2: You're in is the chahookah lounge.

1727
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 7: I promise that cheating, But it depends.

1728
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 5: Would you take the number four? Though?

1729
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 4: I thought that only really only smashing? Okay, yeah, what

1730
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 4: about kissing?

1731
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 2: Kissing?

1732
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 7: Cheating? Wow, I'm not a big kisser, so you're not.

1733
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:25,879
Speaker 2: You don't like kissing?

1734
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 7: Not a person I don't know. Hell, Okay, if I

1735
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 7: comment in the DM that she can.

1736
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 4: Do, that's not cheating again, it's just inappropriate. On what

1737
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 4: the comments is, damn.

1738
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 7: You look good, God bless you?

1739
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 4: Or I send the heart, it's inappropriate. I would have

1740
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 4: his head on a stake if you did that, and

1741
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 4: I and I would and I would prancer around Bergen

1742
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 4: County if I ever saw damn you look good, God

1743
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 4: bless you?

1744
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: Because see what that is is? Al what what is

1745
01:18:58,360 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 3: that girl gonna do when she sees that?

1746
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 5: Exactly? You understand? Hey, you, I'm in Atlanta tomorrow. Understand

1747
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 5: the implementation. I'm in New York where you at. I'm

1748
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 5: where you at tomorrow.

1749
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 4: So what you're doing, and you know what you're doing,

1750
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 4: You're you're you're sliding a wedge into a door to

1751
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 4: see if she opens that door, and then if she

1752
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 4: opens that door, what's your your not all the time,

1753
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 4: not all the time, and what what's your intention?

1754
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 7: Otherwise, like, for example, well, I'm trying to name somebody

1755
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 7: that's not married. Don't you big family or you're beautiful?

1756
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 4: I love you, I love.

1757
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 7: You, Yes, I do love do She's just dope us.

1758
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 4: I'm happy for sirlfriend.

1759
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 7: Okay, so I love you.

1760
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 4: My best friend loves Beyonce, so it's a different type

1761
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 4: of love. You know what you're reading that. I don't

1762
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 4: think context. There's nothing wrong with that. If it's text

1763
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 4: and you say, hey, you look amazing, God bless you.

1764
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 4: You're putting a wedge in a door because you want her.

1765
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 4: You want to see how she responds. And even if

1766
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 4: you're not even really interested in don't want to smash,

1767
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 4: you are looking for that attention. Let me see, let

1768
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 4: me see what she does with this, let me see

1769
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 4: how she comes back. Like it's an ego stroke. And

1770
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 4: if I'm not enough to stroke your ego, if you're

1771
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 4: looking for that outside of these walls, I don't need you.

1772
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 4: I don't want you.

1773
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 7: Example, I don't know the rules. Wow, I can't even

1774
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 7: text somebody.

1775
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 4: Not if you have a girlfriend, and if you listen,

1776
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 4: if you want that life, just like I told my son,

1777
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 4: you're entitled to have that life. You're DMN, email whatever

1778
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 4: anybody you want. Just don't commit to somebody and have

1779
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 4: them under a different impression and hurt them and not

1780
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 4: be real with them and not be loyalty.

1781
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 5: If she just likes to flirt, you cool with it.

1782
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 7: I don't pick people that like the flirt, brother, So

1783
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 7: you don't.

1784
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 4: You don't want somebody like you? So it's good for

1785
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 4: the goose, isn't good for the gander?

1786
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 7: I think it's uh yin and yang.

1787
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 4: You want to elaborate.

1788
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 7: Opposite to track. Okay, Yeah, I don't want I don't

1789
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 7: want nobody like me. I just like to It's not

1790
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 7: that I like the first to like to make people

1791
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 7: feel good. I guess, and you kind of and you

1792
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 7: kind of cracked the code. I like to see what

1793
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 7: I can get away with, of course, but if I

1794
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 7: don't make the overt act, I didn't know that that

1795
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 7: was cheated. Motherfucking new Women's rules.

1796
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 4: Retire these rules, go back.

1797
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 7: Was going to breast club, shacks out the game, shacks

1798
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 7: out the game, don't DM, don't text them, Shock's done.

1799
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 7: I want to thank you both for coming up.

1800
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 5: I just will say thank you for having us.

1801
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 3: And you know I watched up your podcast, and I

1802
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 3: just want to say I appreciate it, and I just

1803
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 3: want to say, you know, Shock, what you do for

1804
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:53,520
Speaker 3: our community.

1805
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 5: I'm sure you hear this a lot. It's very appreciative.

1806
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 3: And besides the basketball and besides all the other stuff,

1807
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 3: you as an entrepreneur and what you've created, what you've done,

1808
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 3: you are an inspiration to a lot of people that

1809
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 3: are trying. I've never seen anybody take a mother freaking

1810
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 3: candy and make it popping stores where my kids are

1811
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 3: asking for the shock candy. What is called shackle bulls

1812
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 3: shackleshes like, it's just amazing. What you do with the

1813
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 3: small businesses, the fast food restaurants, the pizzas and all

1814
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 3: that is just it's very inspiring. And I mean the

1815
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 3: real estate and Atlantic City in Newark and just what

1816
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 3: you're doing is just really entrepreneurs and I just think

1817
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 3: more people need to see that. I always say that

1818
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 3: we come from a place where we don't necessarily share

1819
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 3: the information. We don't tell people about the information, and

1820
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 3: seeing what you do inspires me. When I think about

1821
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 3: young kids and they talk about I want to buy

1822
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 3: this chain, I want to buy this car. All the

1823
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 3: first thing I say, is look at your Shack's portfolio

1824
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 3: and see what would you do? I said, Shack, don't

1825
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 3: never have to work on TNT. He ain't never got

1826
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 3: to work a day, and it's life that money his mailbox.

1827
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pass by Shack's mailbox one day and

1828
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 3: just try to shake a bunch of things, because them

1829
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: things just much becoming and day after day after date, let.

1830
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 7: Me correct you all the mistakes that I made. I

1831
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 7: still gotta work. I got divorced twice. Bro, Yeah, I

1832
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 7: gotta I gotta work. It's a joke.

1833
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 5: I'm just messing gotta work. I just want to say,

1834
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:14,480
Speaker 5: we respect you.

1835
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 7: I appreciate it, and I respect you too, and I

1836
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 7: love when y'all talk about me and breakfast glabor ain't

1837
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 7: no hart feelings. And thank you, miss Gay. I appreciate you,

1838
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 7: and I.

1839
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 5: Appreciate you, and I appreciate you telling me thank you

1840
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 5: so much.

1841
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 7: I can't, miss Gay. I can't text somebody know what.

1842
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 4: Listen, if you're if you're ever indifferent, if you ever

1843
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 4: do know, just pick up the cool me. I'll let

1844
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 4: you know. I'll keep you. I'll keep you out a

1845
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 4: lot of hot water.

1846
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 7: God, I can't even protect someone next time.

1847
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 5: Next time we come with, we smoke some, but we always.

1848
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 4: Think you have to protect her heart. If you think

1849
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 4: it's going to hurt her heart, then don't do it.

1850
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 4: I gotta stretched the man out.

1851
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 5: That's good luck with your one year old. I just

1852
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 5: want to give you one piece.

1853
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 4: Of advice, not letting her sleep in your bed.

1854
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 3: Besides that, when it's potty training time. What we do

1855
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 3: for potty training is we act like it's club Club Live.

1856
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 3: When they go into potty, we have a celebration. We

1857
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 3: pop bottles before, we have a parade. We throw uh

1858
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 3: toilet paper paper all over the place. So it's such

1859
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 3: a party that they want to potty into and they'll

1860
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 3: learn very fast.

1861
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 5: That's one piece of advice.

1862
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 7: I love that.

1863
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: I love we were gonna like whenever he did it,

1864
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: we were going to do like the bubble machines and

1865
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: all that stuff, all.

1866
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 5: That make it like this club Live, hold up signs

1867
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 5: and all that. The kids remember that forever.

1868
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: It's a lot easier with kids once you realize they

1869
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: will repeat the actions that you celebrate. And so if

1870
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: you so anytime anytime he says one plus one is two,

1871
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,560
Speaker 1: we lose our fucking minds.

1872
01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you guys.

1873
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 7: Embarrassing men to check out. No, you're not getting none

1874
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 7: for three days.