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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts.

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Speaker 2: Now, but at the end of the day, moving toward

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Speaker 2: an American workforce based on automation, a lot of able

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Speaker 2: bodied adults in this country who are not working. We

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Speaker 2: will get there. But this president heart is with the farmers,

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Speaker 2: it always has been, and we will work NonStop until

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Speaker 2: we find the right solution, but does not include amnesty

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Speaker 2: and certainly moving toward the American workforce that he envisions.

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Speaker 3: We're learning tonight six Secret Service agents that were connected

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Speaker 3: to Trump's Butler assassination.

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Speaker 4: Attempt have been suspended.

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Speaker 3: This comes just days shy of the shootings anniversary. The

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Speaker 3: identities of the agents suspended are unknown, but sources say

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Speaker 3: their roles range from supervisor positions to line level agents.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing. They are not going after criminals.

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Speaker 5: They're going after anybody that is brown, that.

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Speaker 6: Looks like me, that can't pass as what they say

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Speaker 6: as a typical American.

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Speaker 7: There is some non OPEC related energy news today, Venture

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Speaker 7: Global publicly traded VG making a deal with Germany. They

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Speaker 7: will now be the largest exporter that you also be

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Speaker 7: the largest exporter of liquefied natural gas to Germany.

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Speaker 8: On the back of that deal, and violence doesn't come

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Speaker 8: from democrats, is to be clear. I mean, obviously anyone

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Speaker 8: can be a criminal, but it is maga. It's specifically

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Speaker 8: mag affection. Like even when we look at and they

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Speaker 8: don't talk about the assassination attempts anymore that took place

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Speaker 8: with Donald Trump, but these these were Trump supporters, right.

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Speaker 9: I keep thinking, Okay, this is the authoritarian playbook. We've

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Speaker 9: seen this play out so many times, and unfortunately, I

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Speaker 9: think we're seeing it play out. And a number of

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Speaker 9: academics and writers have pointed out that Carl Schmidt, who

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Speaker 9: was a German jurist, political philosopher and writer in the

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Speaker 9: nineteen thirties, his thesis, which in Nazi Germany and you know,

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Speaker 1: Or principled or good or right.

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Speaker 10: Do whatever you can to win.

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Speaker 1: Vanquish your adversaries, banquish your enemies.

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Speaker 9: And if a president of the United States is willing

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Speaker 9: to weaponize intelligence and justice and law enforcement investigators and

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Speaker 9: the people who head up these departments and agencies are

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Speaker 9: willing to bow to it, we really are in deep,

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Speaker 9: deep trouble.

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Speaker 11: You know, We've we've moved away from industrialization and manufacturing

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Speaker 11: for so long that.

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Speaker 10: There's a there's a void for the.

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Speaker 11: Ability to manufacture things, make things with our hands, build

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Speaker 11: factories manufacturing things. And so I really love the fact

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Speaker 11: that at the moment we're reindustrializing the United States, we're

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Speaker 11: building AI factories. These AI factories need skill craft. We

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Speaker 11: need to we need to go back and make sure

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Speaker 11: that the trade schools are really well, really well invested

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Speaker 11: in that we celebrate this entire industry in this entire field.

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Speaker 12: Are Americans afraid of climate change? And the answer is

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Speaker 12: Americans aren't afraid of climate change. Climate activists have not

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Speaker 12: successfully made the case to the American people. I want

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Speaker 12: you to take a look here. Greatly worried about climate change?

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Speaker 12: We have data going all the way back since nineteen

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Speaker 12: hundred and eighty nine. Look at that. It was thirty

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Speaker 12: five percent, two percent, twenty twenty forty six percent, and

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Speaker 4: In two thousand.

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Speaker 12: Despite all of these horrible weather events, the percentage of

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Speaker 10: Worried about climate.

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Speaker 12: Change has stayed pretty gosh darned consistent, which kind of

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Speaker 12: boggles the mind a little bit. Granted, everything that we

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Speaker 13: They said gen Z would stay silent, that we'd back down,

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Speaker 13: that we'd forget what's worth fighting for.

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Speaker 14: But this generation remembers, We remember truth, we remember freedom,

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Speaker 14: and now we rise.

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Speaker 5: whether or not we are a movement or this is

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Speaker 5: just a moment. President Donald Trump won a popular vote majority.

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Speaker 5: And when you are building, and when you have won

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Speaker 5: a multiethnic, multi generational, multiviewpoint coalition, it's inevitable that you

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Speaker 5: have moments like what's happened in the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: You're not gonna be able to keep everyone happy, including

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of you in the base right now.

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Speaker 5: It's been a very instructive week. You know, by the

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Speaker 5: be able to teach a masterclass. I learned a lot

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Speaker 5: this week. I learned at how you don't handle pr

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Speaker 5: when it comes to a story that is as complex,

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Speaker 5: perplexing to me because you signed the one big beautiful

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Speaker 5: going into a newsweek, you decide to leak it to

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Speaker 5: profoundly confusing is the term I used on Newsmax And again,

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Speaker 5: every single day. But it's been very interesting because this week,

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Speaker 5: they have legs. And it's not just on social media.

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Speaker 5: going on with this Epstein thing. I'm confused, it doesn't

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Speaker 5: much rather be talking about which we should be focused on,

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Speaker 5: which is mass deportations, which is focusing on dismantling the

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Speaker 5: administrative state, curtailing the size and scope of government. When

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Speaker 5: popular vote majority, you're going to have different viewpoints. But

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Speaker 5: an undercurrent of the entire Trump movement was that we

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Speaker 5: want to try to rebuild trust in our government. What's

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Speaker 5: this seems like it's spanning multiple generations. And you and

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Speaker 5: Radical transparency has always been the hallmark of the Trump administration,

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Speaker 5: People panicked over tariffs, they are panicked over a run,

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Speaker 5: Up on the Meghan Kelly Network. Mark. Great to see you, Mark.

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Speaker 5: I caught your interview with Meghan Kelly. I think it

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Speaker 5: was yesterday where you were discussing the Epstein story. This

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Speaker 5: is an unusual one where it seems as if it

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Speaker 5: is growing in its interest and with velocity over the

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Speaker 5: last couple of days. What is your analysis as a

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Speaker 5: reporter of how the Trump administration has handled this and

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Speaker 5: what would you say is the political implications of this?

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Speaker 19: Well, first of all, nice to be back, and if

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Speaker 19: you want to know why, I'm not as is our

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Speaker 19: usual practice wearing a ripped and a wrinkled T shirt.

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Speaker 19: It's because I had your cousin, I mean, your friend

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Speaker 19: Michael Knowles on my podcast today and as you know,

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Speaker 19: he's an IVY League tweeve. I knew he'd wear a

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Speaker 19: sports jacket.

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Speaker 5: So that's right, he always dresses.

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Speaker 10: That's why I'm over addressed.

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Speaker 19: Okay, So there's at least four reasons why you would

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Speaker 19: think the President and the administration would be doing full

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Speaker 19: on disclosure. First, it's the right thing to do for

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Speaker 19: the victims. Second, and they promised that they would be

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Speaker 19: transparent about this. Three, the MAGA movement, as best we

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Speaker 19: can tell, certainly men of its leaders like you are

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Speaker 19: for it. But certainly, as I surveyed, asked everyone on

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Speaker 19: two Way this morning, on the morning meeting, go in

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Speaker 19: the chat, if you're a three time Trump voter, say

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Speaker 19: what you think they should do and a very pro disclosure.

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Speaker 19: And four, you know they've handled it badly in so

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Speaker 19: many ways, and just the politics of it suggests that

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Speaker 19: the way to recover from such a poor handling of

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Speaker 19: it would be to comply with the other three things.

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Speaker 19: So what's on the other side, why wouldn't they be disclosing?

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Speaker 19: And the answers are not great. Either they're trying to

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Speaker 19: protect people or there's an intelligence connection that they're trying

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Speaker 19: to protect. As best I can tell, I struggled despite

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Speaker 19: what I said about the two way community. I struggle

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Speaker 19: with knowing whether there's political damage here for the present

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Speaker 19: in the terms people say, you know, there won't be

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Speaker 19: turnout in the mid terms, or his approval rating will

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Speaker 19: go down.

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Speaker 10: MAGA is very resilient.

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Speaker 19: MAGA fights with the president sometimes and then moves on,

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Speaker 19: and I don't know that this is a qualitatively different case.

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Speaker 19: There's a lot of emotion around this, there's a lot

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Speaker 19: of residence around it. There are a lot of leaders,

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Speaker 19: including some MAGA leaders who often disagree, who seem to

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Speaker 19: agree on this. There's not much support for the president's

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Speaker 19: position except for people who he hired. So I don't

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Speaker 19: really know where it's going or how much damage it

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Speaker 19: will do. But I do think that the two ledgers,

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Speaker 19: the two sides of the ledgers, seem pretty clear, and

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Speaker 19: it's incumbent upon them to not put out a statement

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Speaker 19: or say some things on the fly, but to have

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Speaker 19: a long and detailed explanation of why they're choosing the

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Speaker 19: course they're choosing because the way they've done it so

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Speaker 19: far is only arousing.

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Speaker 5: Suspicion based on your reporting. Does did the Trump administration

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Speaker 5: think it would go away after a day or two

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Speaker 5: with this kind of Sunday night leak strategy?

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Speaker 19: They did, And of course, as you know, they're leveraging

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Speaker 19: the credibility of the director of the FBI and his deputy,

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Speaker 19: two people who previously were you know, in the camp

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Speaker 19: of saying there needs to be disclosure and concerned about

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Speaker 19: a conspiracy. So I think they were trying to leverage them.

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Speaker 19: Did they think it would go away?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 20: You know.

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Speaker 19: Part of the part of the issue here is well,

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Speaker 19: mega media is quite interested. The dominant media, inexplicably to me,

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Speaker 19: is not interested, even though you've got now Hou's Democrats

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Speaker 19: writing a letter to the President saying he should put

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Speaker 19: all this stuff out. I don't know why the press

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Speaker 19: isn't interested in the story. It's a compelling story, just

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Speaker 19: as a story the whole thing is, but including this

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Speaker 19: latest episode, but also the fact that Donald Trump is

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Speaker 19: is split from MAGA. So there are a lot of

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Speaker 19: stories about the MAGA split, but there are not a

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Speaker 19: lot of stories on TV, especially where Donald Trump pays

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Speaker 19: attention even though he doesn't like the Domino media, he

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Speaker 19: pays close attention. There are not a lot of stories

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Speaker 19: there about the underlying question, which is where is justice

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Speaker 19: for the victims? And so part of why they didn't

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Speaker 19: think they'd pay a political price, and part of why

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Speaker 19: I don't think they're as concerned as they might be

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Speaker 19: is this is a big topic of discussion on Megan's show,

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Speaker 19: on your show on X but it's not a dominant conversation,

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Speaker 19: you know, in the country at large in a way

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Speaker 19: that would put more pressure on them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. I think that's partially right. I think

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Speaker 5: that it's growing at least. Yeah, I stay I started

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Speaker 5: to get non politicalish people start to reach out as

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Speaker 5: it's starting to penetrate more circles. So again, I don't

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Speaker 5: want to spend our entire conversation on this, but I

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Speaker 5: do find it to be interesting. I would say the

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Speaker 5: last point on this, and we'll go to another topic,

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Speaker 5: is this is one of the few instances and maybe

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Speaker 5: you can correct me, where it seems as if the

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Speaker 5: president is one eighty from his base. The only one

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Speaker 5: I could think of is maybe the vacca and the

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Speaker 5: years after that when he would go to rallies and

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Speaker 5: sometimes get murmurs and even booze at times. Can you

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Speaker 5: think of other examples potentially where and how do those

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Speaker 5: usually rectify? They just kind of go away as they're

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Speaker 5: an addressing.

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Speaker 19: Right, Well, I know you want to move on, and

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Speaker 19: I've got so much to say about the thing, you

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Speaker 19: just get going. But well, okay, So, first of all,

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Speaker 19: he's certainly adverse with the base on amnesty, path to citizenship,

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Speaker 19: path to legal status for people came to the country legally.

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Speaker 19: So that's another one right now where he's at least

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Speaker 19: flirting with doing it differently than the base. So my

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Speaker 19: monologue on my show today is about how Donald Trump

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Speaker 19: makes decisions, and I think he's an extraordinarily underrated decision maker,

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Speaker 19: and he's extraordinarily different than the other presidents I've covered

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Speaker 19: in many of the ways he makes decisions. And one

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Speaker 19: of those things is no decisions ever final. He'll make

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Speaker 19: a decision, and then he'll make a different decision, and

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Speaker 19: sometimes it's one hundred and eight degrees different. In response

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Speaker 19: to it, I know that the people who feel passionately

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Speaker 19: about this feel passionately about it, and I understand why.

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Speaker 10: But I also know two other things.

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Speaker 19: Number One, it doesn't affect their lives directly. You could

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Speaker 19: say that it affects their trust in the president or

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Speaker 19: their trust in his commitment to transparency or justice. But

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Speaker 19: in the end, it doesn't affect their pocketbook directly. It

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Speaker 19: doesn't affect their daily lives directly, and so I think

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Speaker 19: the chances of it, and so the risks of being

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Speaker 19: at odds with some of MAGA are lower. Number Two,

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Speaker 19: whatever reason caused them to choose the course they've chosen

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Speaker 19: so far must still be there. I was quite struck.

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Speaker 19: I've said this several times already. The way he tried

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Speaker 19: to shut the reporter down asking about the other day,

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Speaker 19: I thought was a massive tell.

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Speaker 10: It wasn't as usual. You're the fake news.

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Speaker 19: You're asking questions that don't matter, because as you point out,

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Speaker 19: this does matter to a lot of people who care

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Speaker 19: about him and who he cares about. But if he

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Speaker 19: simply sticks to whatever rationale he has for the course

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Speaker 19: he's chosen, and other news occurs, which has already happened,

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Speaker 19: and it never catches on with the mainstream, dominant media,

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Speaker 19: and if he can please Magga some other way, I

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Speaker 19: think he could stick to this. And again I'd say

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Speaker 19: I'd like him, and I'd like the Attorney General on

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Speaker 19: the FBI director. I'd like them to explain not just

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Speaker 19: the facts of what they did better, but the reason

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Speaker 19: for what they did better, to say, there's nothing to

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Speaker 19: see here.

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Speaker 10: We all know.

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Speaker 19: Anyone who's followed this at all knows that's not true.

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Speaker 19: So I think that that Maguy is very understanding when

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Speaker 19: the president explains things, but he hasn't explained it.

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Speaker 5: And so yeah, I like, in the attempt to move on,

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Speaker 5: we're going to stay, We're going to stay on the topic. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: And I I think that's right, and at least talking

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Speaker 5: about from the base perspective, the younger base in particular,

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Speaker 5: there is this growing distrust of government and we it's

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Speaker 5: actually really bad that people don't trust their government. I

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Speaker 5: missed the country in the nineteen fifties and sixties. I

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Speaker 5: wasn alive. But this idea that you trust your institutions

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Speaker 5: and they tell you the truth. But this certainly doesn't help,

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Speaker 5: does it. Mark. I mean, for trying to rebuild trust

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Speaker 5: and trying to rebuild integrity in our institutions.

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Speaker 19: I'm going to propose something to you that just occurred

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Speaker 19: to me I'd like our shows together to do a

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Speaker 19: joint focus group of young people who care about this issue.

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Speaker 10: You and I will moderate it together.

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Speaker 19: Let's recruit twelve young people, Let's get them on a zoom,

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Speaker 19: and let's let the White House hear their voices. Because

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Speaker 19: over the place, I'd love to give voice to that

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Speaker 10: The big issue.

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Speaker 19: And again I'm not minimizing the responsibility our society has

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Speaker 19: that runs parallel to that is trust in government, and

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Speaker 19: it's it's it's a thing that needs to be put

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Speaker 19: in sharper relief. Younger people really care about this more

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Speaker 19: than older people in general, and the reasons for that relate,

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Speaker 5: So that idea, let me just elaborate more, is that

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Speaker 5: this is a generation that they view they have been

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Speaker 19: Please, Mark, Well, the reason I want to do this

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Speaker 19: so much is because it's crazy. We live in a

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Speaker 19: society with all this media, and you've not heard that

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Speaker 19: a single place, right, like one or two voices maybe

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Speaker 19: on your show, my show, as somebody you and I've

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Speaker 19: talked to. But the country needs to see twelve young

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Speaker 19: Trump voters saying, mister president, this is wrong. And here's why.

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Speaker 19: Here's why we feel so passionately about this. That voice

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Speaker 19: because I suspect he hasn't.

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Speaker 5: I want to keep you for another segment here, Mark,

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Speaker 5: and again this is important, and I'll tell you it's

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Speaker 10: Yeah, of course, but I care.

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Speaker 5: About keeping the coalition together as a MAGA guy and

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Speaker 5: as one of President Trump's greatest defenders on a daily

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Speaker 5: basis multi platform that I am concerned that the coalition

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Speaker 5: in jeopardy and we'll learn a lot this weekend. This

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Speaker 5: to learn a lot when we're there. And so if

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Speaker 10: It's maybe maybe I was.

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Speaker 19: Every time I read the list of who's coming, it

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Speaker 5: Well, then look coming. We'll give you a room. Come

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Speaker 10: That on stage.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be again. You know, I don't know

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Speaker 5: how to run a focus group, so you'll have to

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Speaker 10: We'll do it. We'll do it together.

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Speaker 5: It seems as if it's an art to be able

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Speaker 10: Want Yeah it is, it is, it is.

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Speaker 19: And I've done hundreds of them, so I wouldn't say

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Speaker 10: How to do it now.

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Speaker 5: Megan Kelly program. The media would you would seem would

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Speaker 5: have kind of a straight shot here at a story

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Speaker 5: with Trump. Right, here's this Epstein thing that has some velocity.

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Speaker 5: Here is Trump? Why is the media ignored this for

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Speaker 5: so long? What is that all about? I mean, I

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Speaker 5: don't want to try to get into like the dark,

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Speaker 5: you know, wacky stuff, but it's just true. The media

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Speaker 5: is the mainstream media, not Internet media seems like meticulously

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Speaker 5: uninterested in this.

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Speaker 19: It's been a mystery to me for the entire time.

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Speaker 19: There there are dark possible explanations that that I don't.

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Speaker 10: I don't. I don't want to give voice to.

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Speaker 19: Necessarily, perhaps I will, as I ramble here, I don't know.

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Speaker 19: It's an incredible story and and currently there are stories

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Speaker 19: about the quote unquote divisions with the Maga Bass because

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Speaker 19: of course they love that. But why the press is

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Speaker 19: and the politics of it, of how it's gone this long?

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Speaker 19: And and you know, you've got all sorts of Trump

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Speaker 19: angles that are are appropriate to discuss.

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Speaker 10: So I don't know.

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Speaker 19: I'd say the same thing about, you know, the hunter,

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Speaker 19: If I were running a news organization like the New

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Speaker 19: to cover what the tragedy in Texas, I would have

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Speaker 19: led with those two stories. Those are massive stories, and

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Speaker 19: yet they're barely covered today. And I normally can explain

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Speaker 5: So more broadly here just from I want to talk

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So what do you.

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Speaker 19: See, Jamie raskin your favorite has Democrat?

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Speaker 10: I believe I know you like Nadler two.

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Speaker 19: But Jamie wrote Jamie wrote a letter with five or

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Speaker 19: Bannon saying, you know, everything should be released. So they've

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Speaker 10: And yet you know, that's such a good point there.

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Speaker 5: Let me interject, that's what I think. This Epstein thing

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Speaker 5: number three, of course the way he died, which was

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Speaker 19: And and that the and that the elites will protect

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Speaker 19: each other. Yeah, no, that's right to to allow them

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Speaker 10: But this is of a piece with that.

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Speaker 19: And you know, one of the things that I work

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Speaker 19: lived in Boston, Washington, and New York my whole life. Okay,

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Speaker 19: but my obligation is to not reflect the point of

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Speaker 10: And and and and and and Yet.

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Speaker 19: When I say the obligation to the victims, and when

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Speaker 19: I feel it my core, like that is a human

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Speaker 19: millions of people around the country feel it passionately. And

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Speaker 19: to have this administration, which promised otherwise to not do

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Speaker 19: it just is gonna incite the worst speculation about what

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Speaker 5: Gotta transparency is the answer here, and it's not too

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Speaker 5: late to fix it. Mark, Thank you so much, Really

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Speaker 5: appreciate your time.

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Speaker 18: USA is here to discuss how t in USA can

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Speaker 4: Cameron, always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 21: It's good to see you, Terrence. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 18: Absolutely So at this point, what are some of the

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Speaker 18: common kinds of issues you're seeing that people are dealing

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Speaker 22: Well, I think, as you know, you know, filing deadline

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Speaker 22: They were a little bit too scared to even file

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Speaker 22: in the first place. I didn't know where to start.

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Speaker 22: They've received letters in the mail that we're very threatening,

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Speaker 22: and that's really where Tax Network USA steps in. When

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Speaker 22: We go on offense. So whether it's wage garnishment, mounting

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Speaker 22: back taxes, or a lean on your home, our job

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Speaker 22: is to push back and to protect what you've worked very,

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Speaker 22: very hard for. And so the filing deadline may have passed,

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Speaker 22: but the penalties do stack up. That's really why you know,

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Speaker 22: timing is everything in this case. So the truth is,

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Speaker 22: the IRS unfortunately count on people to be too afraid

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Speaker 21: But that's really where we stepped in.

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Speaker 22: We've helped thousands of Americans find relief and that's exactly

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Speaker 21: You with as well.

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Speaker 18: And the reality is waiting and hoping that it goes away.

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Speaker 18: That's not going to happen. In fact, your situation is

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Speaker 22: Yes, exactly, and so, and we know that this is

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Speaker 18: You had me at free call, so the initial consultation

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Speaker 18: And it's also important to point out that you also

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Speaker 18: work with small businesses. Typically when people think of issues

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Speaker 21: Yes, there is.

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Speaker 22: We negotiate payment plans, penalty relief, sometimes even settlements that

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Speaker 22: So we take this very seriously. This small businesses are

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Speaker 22: the economic engine of this country. Our job is just

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Speaker 22: to make sure that the IRS doesn't crush yours with

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Speaker 22: bureaucratic overreach, all right.

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Speaker 4: Really quickly.

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Speaker 18: Again, for people who may be interested, or who may

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Speaker 4: How quick does this process typically take?

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Speaker 18: I mean, are we talking something that can be handled

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Speaker 21: It really just depends on the complexity of your case.

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Speaker 22: We can usually stop wage garnishments and freeze collections almost

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Speaker 22: immediately from their full resolutions like settlements or lean removals

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Speaker 22: may take a little bit longer, sometimes a few months,

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Speaker 22: just depending again on the complexity of your case.

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Speaker 21: But from the second you call, we're in your corner.

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Speaker 22: We're handling the irs for you, basically acting as a

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Speaker 18: Right, And that in and of itself might be the

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Speaker 18: price might be worth the price of admission. Cameron Kinsey

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Speaker 18: is always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 21: Good to see you, Terrence.

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Speaker 4: Thank good, good to see you.

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Speaker 18: Visit tanusa dot com slash raft to get all the

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Speaker 5: you you as well, And so your family's been in

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Speaker 5: and you kind of are a central player in all this.

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Speaker 20: Yes.

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Speaker 5: So for people to have no idea who you are

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Speaker 20: So? I grew up in Atlanta, Fulton County and we

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Speaker 20: ten seasons and it was the one of the highest

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Speaker 20: Ian Bravo. I think it was the first time that

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Speaker 20: and it was just an overnight success and we it

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Speaker 20: was more of a scripted comedy.

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Speaker 5: What was it?

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Speaker 20: It was my dad like, is a very strict parent,

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Speaker 20: and it was, but it was more comedy. He knew

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Speaker 20: how to parent in a way that was very tough,

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Speaker 20: but at the end of the day, he always made

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Speaker 20: it fun. And both my parents were in real estate,

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Speaker 20: and obviously during eight when the crash happened, the world

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Speaker 20: was on fire. It impacted his business the most. And

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Speaker 20: when that happened, everything went downhill and then they were

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Speaker 20: under investigation. I think it was in twenty twelve that started,

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Speaker 20: and then in twenty nineteen there was a federal indictment

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Speaker 20: to come down and it was history from that.

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Speaker 5: So what was the show called Sorry for.

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Speaker 20: My chrisly knows best?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 20: And the show was it was it was like a

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Speaker 20: family reality show. It was more so it was more

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Speaker 5: Common You were part of it as Yeah.

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Speaker 20: So me, all my siblings, my parents, my grandmother. It

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Speaker 20: was just your big southern, larger than life family.

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Speaker 5: And so twenty twelve to twenty and that's a seven

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Speaker 5: year investigation. Yes for Pele don't know what what was all?

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Speaker 5: What was that all about?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: Well, I like to say, if it takes you seven

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Speaker 20: years to issue to issue a formal indictment, then you

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Speaker 20: don't have that strong of a case. But unfortunately, my

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Speaker 20: dad's former business partner had signed a full immunity deal

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Speaker 20: with the government and he got on the stand and said,

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Speaker 20: I committed all these crimes, but they knew that I

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Speaker 20: was like, they knew I was doing it, and all

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Speaker 20: the charges were tax fraud, bank fraud, conspiracy. Then they

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Speaker 20: came down with a superseding indictment once my parents wouldn't

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Speaker 20: budge and enter into a plea deal as the government does.

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Speaker 5: What was the main accusations.

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Speaker 20: Uh, tax fraud and bank fraud, bank fraud probably being

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Speaker 20: the largest because they actually during trial they didn't even

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Speaker 20: get sentenced to time on the tax fraud. It was

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Speaker 20: all they were sentenced based off of the bank fraud conspiracy.

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Speaker 5: And so then they got sentenced when.

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Speaker 20: They got sentenced in what year was it, Mom? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 20: she is here congratulating. Yes, yeah, So June of twenty

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Speaker 20: two was when we got the guilty verdict.

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Speaker 5: Wow, it's a ten year thing. It's insane.

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Speaker 20: And it was in Fulton County. Our judge was the

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Speaker 20: youngest black female appointed by Obama. Both prosecutors were a

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Speaker 20: federal court, yes, federal court, and both prosecutors donated to

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Speaker 20: Democratic campaigns. They referred to us as the Trumps of

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Speaker 20: the South. And a meeting in front of the judge

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Speaker 20: and our lawyers, it was we knew at that point

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Speaker 20: it was going downhill fast.

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Speaker 5: So then what was amazing? How long was the prison sentence?

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Speaker 20: My dad got twelve years and that's.

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Speaker 5: Just seven and so just to be clear, did your

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Speaker 5: dad like burn down a Wendy's or something?

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Speaker 20: You know, you would think yeah, you would think, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like, I mean twelve years for white collar crime and

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Speaker 5: first time offender I imagined nonviolent first time offenders. Yes, meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: you can burn the streets in the summer of twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty and we give you money.

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Speaker 20: Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 5: It's an outrageous city.

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Speaker 20: That's what I have said. And at the end of

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Speaker 20: the day, if they did what they were accused of doing,

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Speaker 20: if it is a financial crime, meet it with a

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Speaker 20: financial punishment, because I mean, that hurts just as bad.

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Speaker 20: But that's not what happened. And I like to compare

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Speaker 20: it to Elizabeth Holmes in that whole case. She got

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Speaker 20: eleven years for I think a billion dollars worth of

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Speaker 20: fraud and people supposedly lost their lives. Like it was,

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Speaker 20: this was a very political persecution.

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Speaker 4: So the.

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Speaker 5: So they get sentenced to jail in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 5: And so you where were you at in your life

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Speaker 5: at that time?

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Speaker 20: I was we were filming a new TV show, So

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Speaker 20: where we were filming a new season of the TV show.

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Speaker 20: The network actually signed a new deal after the indictment

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Speaker 20: came down. They knew everything that was going on.

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Speaker 5: They figured it'd be good for ratings.

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Speaker 20: Well, they wouldn't even let us speak about it, which

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Speaker 20: was interesting. So it put us in a bad life

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Speaker 20: because it made us look like liars and this whole scheme,

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Speaker 20: but we were filming a TV show and we never

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Speaker 20: expected to go the way that it did. We spent

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Speaker 20: millions of dollars on trial lawyers, and they threw the

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Speaker 20: book at him.

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Speaker 5: So they get sentenced to jail. How long between sentencing

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Speaker 5: and actually arrival.

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Speaker 20: So they were sentenced while they were found guilty in

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Speaker 20: June of twenty three. Then in November of twenty three

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Speaker 20: they were sentenced, and I say, the only thing the judge,

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Speaker 20: thank you. The only thing the judge did for us

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Speaker 20: was she gave us Thanksgiving and Christmas to have together.

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Speaker 20: And then January they January seventeenth of twenty twenty three

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Speaker 20: is when both my parents were reported to federal prison.

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Speaker 20: And at that time I got custody of my ten

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Speaker 20: year old brother and my ten year old sister and

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Speaker 20: sixteen year old brother. Erh my gosh, I can't speak today.

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Speaker 20: Ten year old sister and sixteen year old brother. And

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Speaker 20: I was twenty five.

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Speaker 5: At the time, twenty five at the time and not married.

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Speaker 5: No did they issue a big fine as well.

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Speaker 20: They did so it was seventeen million dollars in restitution,

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Speaker 20: which is something. It's really funny because when you look

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Speaker 20: at the media had lines they loved to talk about

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Speaker 20: thisty six million dollars worth of fraud, and that was

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Speaker 20: not the case. This was back in eight. My father

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Speaker 20: was in real estate. They had all these loans, but

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Speaker 20: never one time at trial did the prosecutor show a

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Speaker 20: single loan document. And so our argument was what is

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Speaker 20: the actual loss amount? And they could never verify what

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00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 20: the loss amount was?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, was it just like the amount of loans he

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Speaker 5: took out and collective as what they considered.

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Speaker 20: They loved to do anything they can for the headlines,

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00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 20: so they he had loans on homes and he flipped homes.

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Speaker 20: He was in the real estate market, he had the

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00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 20: largest asset management company, and the government just tried to

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00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 20: add up as much money as possible without taking into

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00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 20: consideration what properties or artwork or furniture was held as collateral.

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Speaker 20: And even at trial, one of the government's own witnesses,

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Speaker 20: who was the vice president of a bank, said, you know,

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Speaker 20: back in O eight, when the world was on fire,

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Speaker 20: everyone was throwing their loans back at us, and mister

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Speaker 20: chrisly came to us and said, let's try to make

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Speaker 20: you as whole as possible. That was the government's own

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Speaker 20: witness and that right, there is not conspiracy to defraud.

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Speaker 5: But so then you went from sibling to parent overnight. Yes,

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Speaker 5: what was that like?

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Speaker 20: It was a challenge because obviously a preteen girl and

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Speaker 20: a teenage boy. I was their sister. So it was

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Speaker 20: hard for them to look at me and have that

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Speaker 20: respect of a parent, like you're going to listen to

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Speaker 20: what I say. But I like to say we kind

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Speaker 20: of grew up together. They taught me more than anyone

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Speaker 20: else could ever teach me. Children are the greatest blessing

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Speaker 20: in the world, whether you have them or whether you've

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Speaker 20: been gifted the opportunity to help raise them. They are

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Speaker 20: the biggest blessing. It was a challenge because I was

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Speaker 20: not expecting to get two kids at twenty five. I

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Speaker 20: was like anyone else, any child TV star, like, I

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Speaker 20: got money, I spent, it wasn't really worried about saving,

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Speaker 20: and it was hard. I was a single income household

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Speaker 20: as a women lost the TV show, literally lost everything overnight.

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Speaker 20: So it was it was a challenge.

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Speaker 5: So you have to take care of these two young people,

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Speaker 5: both miners. Yes, what did the judge have. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you appealed to the judge about this, right.

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Speaker 20: We did, so, we asked for staggered. We asked for

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Speaker 20: my parents to be staggered. But the judge looked at

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01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 20: us in the courtroom and said that she actually looked

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Speaker 20: at my parents and said, you didn't care about your

1146
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Speaker 20: children when you were committing these crimes, so why should

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Speaker 20: I care about them now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? That's dark. Yeah, right, So then they went to

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Speaker 5: different prisons.

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Speaker 20: Yes, so my dad was in Pensacola, Florida, and my

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Speaker 20: mother was in Lexington, Kentucky, so ten hours away from

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Speaker 20: each other.

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Speaker 20: No, they never got to speak on the phone. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 20: and two and a half years that they were gone,

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Speaker 20: and they were together almost thirty years. They're still together.

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Speaker 20: But they they never gone a day without speaking to

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Speaker 20: each other.

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Speaker 5: And these were lower security prisons, yes, so.

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Speaker 20: It was it was camps. Yes, thankfully they were in camps,

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Speaker 20: but it was still I have seen how broken our

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Speaker 20: system is. And thankfully our new director of the Bureau

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Speaker 20: of Prisons, Billy Marshall, is phenomenal and Josh Smith, they're

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Speaker 20: amazing and they're going to change somethings. So for that,

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Speaker 20: I'm grateful.

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Speaker 5: So then you had to raise your two siblings, and

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Speaker 5: then how often were you able to visit Lexington and Pensacola.

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Speaker 20: So the first year they were gone, I think we

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Speaker 20: went like forty eight weekends out of the year. Whoa, yeah,

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Speaker 20: so we would go to mom one weekend at the next.

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Speaker 5: That shows that you guys are like actually close family though.

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Speaker 20: Yes, yeah, So I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like there's a lot of like fake stuff in the world,

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Speaker 5: but I can tell you, like a lot of child

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Speaker 5: actors if their parents went to prison, they wouldn't visit

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Speaker 5: forty eight times.

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Speaker 20: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 5: But and imagining you're like road tripping from Atlanta.

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Speaker 20: Right, yeah, Well, so we're in Nashville now, So we

1224
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 20: moved to Nashville ten years ago.

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Speaker 5: So Lexington's not that bad.

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Speaker 20: Lexington was three and a half hours one way, so.

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Speaker 5: We would get up and is six seven hours.

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Speaker 20: Seven hours. Yeah, so when it would be when we

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01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 20: would go to see mom, we would get up three

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Speaker 20: four am and drive to see her that day and

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Speaker 20: stay until three pm and then drive home that night.

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Speaker 20: And then for Dad, we would drive fifteen hours in

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Speaker 20: one weekend, and then the kids had to be up

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Speaker 20: for school Monday morning.

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Speaker 5: And you had to make sure that they were fed

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Speaker 5: and fed.

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Speaker 20: It was like therapy, all of the things there were.

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Speaker 20: They were in therapy every single week.

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Speaker 5: That was one because of this.

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Speaker 20: Yes, because of this, and because I refused to allow

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Speaker 20: these children to be another statistic.

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Speaker 5: Who who whose initiative was at the visit forty eight times?

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Speaker 5: Is that your your initiative?

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Speaker 20: Yes? I think we all were just under the understanding that,

1245
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Speaker 20: like this is what you do.

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Speaker 5: And so that's not normal. Just you know, like that's

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Speaker 5: that's I hope your mom understands that you understand that,

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Speaker 5: Like I know a lot of people that have parents

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Speaker 5: in prison or have been in prison, that is very

1250
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 5: much not normal.

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Speaker 20: I think for me, the way that I grew up,

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Speaker 20: my mother never missed a school drop off or pick.

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Speaker 5: Up or supporting all the celebrity No, she.

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Speaker 20: Never like her kids were her number one priority. So

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Speaker 20: if she could do that for me for twenty five

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Speaker 20: years of my life, even as an adult, she would

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Speaker 20: and miss a doctor's appointment. So if my mother can

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Speaker 20: show up for me like that, why can I not

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Speaker 20: show up for her as her daughter?

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Speaker 21: Like?

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Speaker 5: Why did they loop your mom into this?

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Speaker 20: It's what the government loves to do. You know. They

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Speaker 20: go after the man and then if they the male

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Speaker 20: figure doesn't plead guilty, then they use their spouse or

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Speaker 20: girlfriend as a pawn to get that.

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Speaker 5: Please, do they regret not going through the plea deal?

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Speaker 5: Not not that they did it or didn't do it.

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Speaker 5: I just I know so many people that decide to

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Speaker 5: fight it and they get like fifteen years in prison.

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Speaker 20: For my parents, and they always said, we're not going

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Speaker 20: to say we did something that we didn't do.

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Speaker 5: I get that that was their big It's a very

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Speaker 5: rigged system, prob I mean.

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Speaker 20: What the Department of Justice as a ninety eight percent

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Speaker 20: conviction rate.

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Speaker 5: And if you please, you might if they would have pled,

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Speaker 5: they might not have gone to jail. And maybe, you know.

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Speaker 15: You don't know.

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Speaker 20: Honestly, there was never that opportunity for us. Even just

1280
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Speaker 20: a plea deal that they were kind of throwing out

1281
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 20: was still I think around five and ten years crazy.

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Speaker 20: So it was all about them having these TV stars.

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Speaker 20: I mean even in their press conference they said, if

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Speaker 20: these reality TV people aren't above the law, neither are you.

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Speaker 20: So it was all about them getting this one big

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Speaker 20: case so they can go off into private practice and

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Speaker 20: make a name for themselves.

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Speaker 5: And so this was amazingly. The indictment came down under

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Speaker 5: Trump's Department of Justice.

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Speaker 20: Yes, And that's the thing that people don't realize is

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Speaker 20: like people love to say, oh, your president is the

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Speaker 20: one who indicted them, and I'm like, hold on, that's

1293
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Speaker 20: not what happened. All of this start did ten years ago,

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Speaker 20: you know this, And even the prosecutor, yes, and even

1295
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Speaker 20: the prosecutors were the prosecutors were Democrats. The judge was

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Speaker 20: appointed by Obama. Like this, just because a president comes

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Speaker 20: into office doesn't mean everyone else that was placed before

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Speaker 20: him goes yes, And so people don't realize that.

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Speaker 5: So you're visiting regularly and then Trump.

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Speaker 20: Wins yes, Well, actually, so I'm visiting regularly. And then

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Speaker 20: I became very vocal just about the conditions of the

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Speaker 20: prisons because they were very inhumane. And when I did that,

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Speaker 20: a very you know, another conservative group reached out to

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Speaker 20: me and asked me to speak at their conference, and

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Speaker 20: I spoke there and it kind of that took off,

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Speaker 20: and a lot of other politicians wanted to meet with

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Speaker 20: me and hear my side of the story. And then

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Speaker 20: the President's team reached out and asked me to speak

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Speaker 20: at the R and C. So I spoke. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 20: So I spoke at the Republican National Convention, and they

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Speaker 20: just kept coming my way. But at the same time,

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Speaker 20: I also like to say I forced myself into rooms

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Speaker 20: I was never invited into, and because I had one

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Speaker 20: goal in mind, and that was to get my parents home.

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Speaker 20: I had two minor children looking at me, saying, like winter.

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Speaker 1: Mom and Dad coming home.

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Speaker 18: Since President Trump was sworn into office, his administration has

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Speaker 4: But don't forget.

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Speaker 18: eight ninety eight. Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 18: News Break. President Trump's scheduled to tour the flood devastation

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Speaker 18: in Texas tomorrow. More than twenty one hundred responders are

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Speaker 18: on the ground, and officials say they are more on

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Speaker 18: the way, but.

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Speaker 6: Our entire focus since day one has been on rescue

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Speaker 6: and reunification, which leads me to our latest report. As

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Speaker 6: of eight am this morning, there have been ninety six

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Speaker 6: confirmed deaths, sixty adults and thirty six children. The number

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Speaker 6: of missing remains at one sixty one, and there remain

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Speaker 6: five campers and one counselor from Camp Mystic among the missing.

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Speaker 6: If family members had reported a loved one missing and

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Speaker 6: they've returned safely, we asked that you notify us through

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Speaker 6: Kerrville Missing at DPS dot Texas dot gov or call

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Speaker 6: eight three zero two five eight one one.

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Speaker 17: Author of the MAGA Doctrine and president of Turning Point USA.

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Speaker 1: Here's Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we're back with more, but first I need to

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Speaker 5: tell you guys about TikTok and also make sure you

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Speaker 5: guys get the rush was right shirt at Charliekirk dot com.

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Speaker 5: Right now, Over seven point five million businesses in America

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Speaker 5: are thriving on TikTok, businesses that employ more than twenty

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Speaker 5: eight million people. But behind the stats, it's the stories

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Speaker 5: that really matter, like dan O's Seasoning from Kentucky, who

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Speaker 5: used TikTok to reach new customers and grew from a

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Speaker 5: one man show to a team of forty five or

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Speaker 5: Arizona Taco King in Arizona able to employ over twenty

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Speaker 5: eight people and pay them well thanks to foot traffic.

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Speaker 5: TikTok brings in Rashee Mechanic and Georgia, who expanded her

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Speaker 5: auto shop and hired new employees with the support she

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Speaker 5: found on TikTok. Their success means jobs, support for families,

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Speaker 5: and stronger local communities and economies. Because when small businesses

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Speaker 5: thrive on TikTok, so do the communities around them. Learn

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Speaker 5: more about TikTok's contribution to the United States economy at

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Speaker 5: TikTok economic impact dot Com. That is TikTok economic Impact

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Speaker 5: dot com portions of the Charlie Kirkshaw brought to in

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Speaker 5: part by TikTok. And when they realize how hard this is,

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Speaker 5: like do they get that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: Oh yeah, oh they do. My like my little sister,

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Speaker 20: it was hard for her every time I would leave,

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Speaker 20: But then she would say, well, my sister's fighting for

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Speaker 20: my parents. She's at the White House, or she's doing

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Speaker 20: this or that. So they do realize. It took a lot.

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Speaker 20: I didn't have a single political connection two and a

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Speaker 20: half years ago, like, not a single one, and somehow

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Speaker 20: we made it to where we're at today.

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Speaker 5: And so then so Trump gets sworn in, yes and

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Speaker 5: walk us through these couple months up to the Was

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Speaker 5: it a partner commutation It was.

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Speaker 20: A full actually, So the story that people don't know

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Speaker 20: was I guess before It was probably four to six

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Speaker 20: months before he won the life. I got invited to

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Speaker 20: an event at mar A Lago and this was when

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Speaker 20: all of his stuff with Fulton County was going on

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Speaker 20: at the same time as us, and I went to

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Speaker 20: take a picture with him and I just word vomited.

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01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 20: I was like, this is my one opportunity to tell

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Speaker 20: him my story. And I started talking to him and

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Speaker 20: then Secret Service comes up and they're like, all right,

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Speaker 20: time for you to go. And he looks at them

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01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 20: and goes, no, I'm speaking to her. She's good. And

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Speaker 20: he allowed me to share my story with him. And

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Speaker 20: when I told him the amount of time they got,

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Speaker 20: he was like, you're kidding me, right. I was like,

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Speaker 20: I wish I was. He goes, that's absolutely insane. He

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Speaker 20: was like, let me get back in office, and I

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Speaker 20: promise you I'll look into it, and then when he won,

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Speaker 20: I was like, then at that point, I was like,

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Speaker 20: this man is busier than we, like anyone in the world.

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Speaker 20: I was like, he's not going to remember the conversation

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Speaker 20: we had so exactly. But I was like, all right,

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Speaker 20: now I'm on my tour to remind him of the

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01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 20: conversation that we had. And I went to every event

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Speaker 20: I got invited to at the White House, became part

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Speaker 20: of the MAHA Moms did ever thing, and that's how

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Speaker 20: the pardon. And then Alice Johnson, obviously she's phenomenal, and

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Speaker 20: that's how the pardon happened. But when the President called

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Speaker 20: to let me know that he was giving my parents

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Speaker 20: the pardon, on the phone, he looked at Alice and

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Speaker 20: he said, he's telling me my parents were getting their

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Speaker 20: life back. And then he told Alice he was like,

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Speaker 20: is this a commutation or a full pardon. She was like, well,

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Speaker 20: as of now, it's a commutation. He goes, nope, not today.

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Speaker 20: He goes, give these people a full, unconditional pardon. They

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Speaker 20: need to get their lives back and not have anything

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Speaker 20: holding them back. And I was like, I was happy

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Speaker 20: for a commutation, but still then the seventeen million follows you.

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Speaker 20: Now with a full unconditional pardon, it all goes away.

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Speaker 5: There's no fine, right, no, and.

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Speaker 20: The government potentially owes us money back that they took.

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Speaker 5: Only Donald Trump, only Donald Trump. Yes, And so the

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Speaker 5: month prior to the pardon, you were working the circuit hopeful. Yes,

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Speaker 5: walk us through that.

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Speaker 20: I it's funny. I mean we just ran in to

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Speaker 20: Nancy Mace as we were walking up and she hugged

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Speaker 20: my mom and she was like, I just have to

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01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 20: tell you, your daughter took every single opportunity. Anyone she

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Speaker 20: came in contact with. She shared their story like she

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01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 20: shared your story, and she if she saw someone that

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Speaker 20: could help, she made she made a beeline for them.

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Speaker 20: And I have no shame in it, because when your

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Speaker 20: family's on the line, and my dad's in his late fifties,

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Speaker 20: like he would have been in his late sixties coming home,

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01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 20: the best years of his life are gone. So there

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01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 20: was nothing that was going to hold me back. I

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01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 20: never thought I was too good to ask or beg

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01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 20: for help. And I mean Carrie Lake, I facetimed her

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Speaker 20: as soon as I got my dad, and she told

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Speaker 20: my dad the same thing. She was actually crying on

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Speaker 20: the phone when she saw him, and she was like,

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Speaker 20: your daughter did it? Like she went into rooms, she spoke,

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01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 20: she told your story in a way that made people

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Speaker 20: want to help her.

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Speaker 5: And so now everyone's free, everyone's free. What are you

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Speaker 5: going to do with your time?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:00,759
Speaker 5: Another project?

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01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 20: Right, I got to find another project. It's I like

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01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 20: to say, like, I didn't choose the world of politics,

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01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 20: but it kind of chose me.

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Speaker 5: There's no going there's no going back.

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Speaker 20: Once you're in it, you're in it, as you know.

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01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 20: But now my main focus was to help my parents,

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Speaker 20: but in the midst of helping them, I saw how

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Speaker 20: many broken individuals there are in the system and how

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01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 20: many how much injustice has been done. So now I'm

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Speaker 20: on my kind of tour to help others. And if

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01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 20: I can provide the gift for other families that people

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Speaker 20: provided for me and that the president provided for me,

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Speaker 20: then that's what I'm on my mission to do.

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Speaker 5: And so what what about the the prison system do

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01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 5: you think people should know about that? They don't.

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01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 20: I like to say, if it can happen to us,

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01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 20: it can happen to you. I mean you. It's a

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01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 20: federal crime to ship an orchid without proper paperwork, like

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01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 20: you could literally go to prison for that.

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01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,839
Speaker 5: So there are more not a crime break into America.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: No, let's at me in prison. But if you across

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Speaker 5: the southern border you get benefits.

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Speaker 20: Oh yeah in Nashville right now. Yeah, our mayor actually

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01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 20: turned off the license plate readers because he said the

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Speaker 20: ice was using it to detain illegals.

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Speaker 5: Why why are you guys?

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Speaker 20: It's it's honestly, it is extremely difficult, but we have

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Speaker 20: a lot of transplants and Nashville, the city is very blue.

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01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 20: So I have definitely fought against it and I'm going

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01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 20: to continue to because at the end of the day,

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01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 20: it's just wrong. But when it comes to the prison system,

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01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 20: I like to tell people, you know what, you have

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01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 20: a lot of conservatives too. Criminal justice reform is not

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01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 20: a very conservative way of thinking. But think of it

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Speaker 20: as being your mother or your daughter or your child,

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Speaker 20: and there should never be a time to where a

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Speaker 20: human being is sitting in a prison that is one

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01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 20: hundred and ten degrees because there's no air conditioning. I

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01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 20: even had Tom home and look at me and say, Savannah,

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01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 20: you would be pissed if you saw the criteria for

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01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 20: these ice detention facilities, and then saw the criteria for

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01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 20: where your parents are at.

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Speaker 5: Of course, he said, legally immigrants get way better treatments

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01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 5: than our citizens exactly.

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Speaker 20: So I think that's the hard part in just seeing

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01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 20: that they're consuming food that says not for human consumption.

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Speaker 20: I like to say, a judge sentences you to a time,

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Speaker 20: you've got to start an end date. But with the

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01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 20: conditions you're being subjected to, you're serving a life sentence

1514
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 20: when you leave. And so now, like I said, with

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Speaker 20: the Director of the Bureau of Prisons Billy Marshall and

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01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 20: Deputy Director Josh Smith, they have made it a commitment

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01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 20: to actually go into every single one of these prisons

1518
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 20: and they're going to start shutting them down or they're

1519
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 20: going to start making the necessary changes to give these

1520
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 20: people a second chance at life and rehabilitate them. And

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01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 20: for people that don't care about prison reform, and you think,

1522
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 20: all right, bad people go to prison, well, ninety five

1523
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 20: percent of them are coming out one day. So care

1524
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 20: about yourself enough. I mean they're going to be neighbors,

1525
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 20: So care about yourself enough to make sure that these

1526
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 20: individuals get rehabilitated.

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Speaker 5: So this process has been unexpected. Yes, it has changed you.

1528
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 5: What is the role of faith that it played in

1529
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 5: all ways?

1530
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 20: Oh, I've said when my parents left that first I

1531
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 20: think it was like a Wednesday, and then we got

1532
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 20: a call that they could have visits that weekend. And

1533
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 20: I remember being upstairs in my little sister's room trying

1534
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,480
Speaker 20: to unpack her clothes, get all of her stuff organized,

1535
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:30,839
Speaker 20: and I was like, I don't know what you're supposed

1536
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 20: to wear to a prison. And then I literally broke

1537
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 20: down and just fell to the floor and I was like,

1538
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 20: I'm not my mother, Like I cannot do this. Like

1539
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 20: my mother's one of the strongest people I've ever come

1540
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 20: in contact with, and I'm like, I can't do this.

1541
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 20: And by the grace of God, like every time I

1542
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 20: felt like I was gonna break and then I couldn't

1543
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 20: do it, like God would intervene something, there was a

1544
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 20: little glimmer of hope that would come in. And there's

1545
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 20: there's no other explanation other than God that got us

1546
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 20: through what we got through.

1547
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 5: And so your siblings are doing fine.

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01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 20: Yes, my my little brother is nineteenth University of Alabama.

1549
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,879
Speaker 5: And just made the Dean's List amazing.

1550
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 20: Yes, so I'm like, you know what, I know I

1551
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 20: did something right and he is the greatest human being

1552
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 20: in the world. He's my absolute best friend. And so

1553
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 20: they're thriving. I'm thriving. I'm trying to. It's a weird place.

1554
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 20: My parents have only been out for two weeks and so.

1555
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 5: So thank you for coming to the event.

1556
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 20: Okay, it's I'm you had not.

1557
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 5: Been able to get a meal with them for almost

1558
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 5: two years, two and a half years, two and a

1559
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 5: half years. Yeah, so like what was what was like?

1560
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 5: So they get out of so they're two separate prisons. Yes?

1561
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 5: Did they both get released simultaneously?

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01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 14: So?

1563
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 20: I they did, but I had to fight with the

1564
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 20: prison to let my dad out because they wanted to

1565
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 20: try to pull some nonsense on me because it was

1566
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 20: past five o'clock.

1567
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 5: We dealt with this with January sixth, guys.

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01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 20: Yes, and I went outside, did a press conference in

1569
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 20: front of the prison and said, like, the president signed

1570
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 20: an order that said they must be released immediately. And

1571
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 20: I looked at the head person at the prison. I said,

1572
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 20: keep him past eleven fifty nine pm and you'll be

1573
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 20: in prison next And he was like, I don't want

1574
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 20: any problems, and I want any problems. I was like,

1575
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 20: then let him out, and Billy Marshall got on the

1576
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 20: phone and made it happen, literally within thirty minutes of

1577
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 20: the whole debacle occurring. But when we left, it was funny.

1578
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 20: My dad gets in the car and we actually facetimed

1579
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 20: Margo and she's with the president and he like sees

1580
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 20: my dad. He was like, well you look good. It

1581
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 20: was hilarious. And then my dad was like, all right,

1582
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 20: find me a pizza Hut.

1583
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 10: So we have.

1584
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 5: The first meal was pizza Hut.

1585
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 20: Yes, yes, why I know, I don't know, but it

1586
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 20: was pizza Hut.

1587
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 5: So, yeah, they don't they don't serve that in prison.

1588
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 20: They do not.

1589
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 5: No, unfortunately, well it was pensacolas. I don't know the options.

1590
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 5: So your mom got out the same day, so you

1591
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 5: went to go get your mom first, and in your dad.

1592
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 20: So my brother Grayson went to get my mom.

1593
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 5: So you guys split up.

1594
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 20: Yeah, we split up.

1595
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 5: He went what was her first meal? Waffle house?

1596
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 20: Her first meal was Zaxby's.

1597
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, you know, very southern, Yeah, very southern to

1598
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 5: what is a cookout or something?

1599
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 20: Right, Hey, I think at that point they were just

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01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 20: happy to have like real food.

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01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 5: Yes, people don't realize like the slop you have to

1602
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 5: eat in prison.

1603
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 20: Like I said, the meat, the packaging on the meat

1604
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:20,879
Speaker 20: says not for human consumption.

1605
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 5: Really, yeah, so is it for like dogs, for.

1606
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 20: Dogs, animals? Whatever?

1607
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 5: Literally says not a violent prison.

1608
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 20: No, it's not. It's not.

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01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 5: This is for low security.

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01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 20: It is, but you do. And that's the biggest misconception too,

1611
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 20: is yes, it's a camp, but a lot of people

1612
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 20: work their way down. So like there, my dad was

1613
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 20: in there with some of the biggest drug dealers and

1614
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 20: he they were some of his best friends, you know,

1615
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 20: And that my dad said, it was the It was

1616
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 20: such a life changing experience because he grew up in

1617
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 20: a world to where you were friends with people who

1618
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 20: were like you, and then going to prison showed him

1619
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 20: that we really are all the same and he got

1620
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 20: to be friends with people he would have never have

1621
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 20: been friends with in the outside world.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 5: And so they're released for the last two weeks, Yes,

1624
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 5: are they? Is your dad gaining gaining his weight back?

1625
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 20: I mean, hey, honestly, he worked out NonStop when he

1626
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 20: was there.

1627
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 5: He's kind of people like losing a lot of weight

1628
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 5: in prison.

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01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 20: They do.

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01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 5: Like when Bannon went to prison, he lost like forty pounds.

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01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 20: Yes, like my dad just walked and worked out. He

1632
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 20: refused to eat from the chowhall is what they call it,

1633
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 20: so he would just eat the food from the commissary.

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01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 20: So he would literally just like live off of tuna.

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01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 10: Wow.

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01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so just like pure proteins.

1637
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 20: Yeah, so I doubt he really wants to see a

1638
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:36,719
Speaker 20: pack of tuna ever again.

1639
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so what are they going to do next?

1640
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Speaker 20: Well, we've already started back filming, so that's great. It's

1641
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 20: kind of it has to be a lot for them.

1642
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 20: I cannot imagine being locked in somewhere for two and

1643
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 20: a half years and doing the same thing every single

1644
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 20: day and then getting out and the world being all

1645
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 20: over you and cameras in your face. So I know

1646
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:02,760
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Speaker 5: And I mean, boy, Kamala Harris would have been president,

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Speaker 5: I don't think you guys would be having this conversation

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Speaker 20: On election night, I was watching it with my brother Grayson,

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Speaker 20: and when the president won, we were both sobbing because

1697
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Speaker 20: I knew in my heart that was my only way out,

1698
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 20: like that was my only way out, because we even

1699
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Speaker 20: followed an appeal and we won it in part when

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01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,280
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Speaker 20: be resentenced, and we went back to her resentencing hearing

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Speaker 20: and the judge gave her more time. So she kept

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01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 20: the seven years, but then gave her two more years

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01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 20: of supervised release, and which should have been she should

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Speaker 20: have had time served at that point, and the judge

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01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 20: looked at me, and this was after I spoke at

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Speaker 20: the RNC. She looked at me and send the court transcripts,

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01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 20: and she said, to the person who has these minor

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01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 20: children in their custody, you need to be more concerned

1710
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 20: with their well being than spreading false information to the public.

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Speaker 5: That's a federal job, a federal federal judge's.

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01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 20: Name Eleanor Ross.

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01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that doesn't sound she actually doesn't sound like

1714
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Speaker 5: a Trump appointed.

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Speaker 20: Now she Obama appointee, and she actually ruled against the

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Speaker 20: president when it came to mail in ballots.

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Speaker 5: I just I mean, like, the amount of judicial tyranny

1718
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 5: in this country right now is so dramatic.

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01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 20: Oh well, we got copied on an email. This was

1720
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 20: a few months ago to where the prosecutors were actually

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01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 20: speaking to the judge and they didn't realize we got

1722
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 20: copied on it. Yeah, which cannot happen.

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Speaker 5: It's and but you know what's incredible. It's like you

1724
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Speaker 5: guys have a big platform and even if you expose it,

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01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 5: like nothing happened.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 20: That and that was the crazy part was we had

1728
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 20: audio recordings of government officials talking about wiping their government

1729
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 20: devices clean of anything that had to do with the

1730
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 20: Chrisly case. They accused us of terrorism just so they

1731
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 20: could run a fencend report, and then once they ran

1732
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 20: the fencend report to obtain all the financial information, they

1733
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 20: destroyed the case number that they created.

1734
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 5: What was the terrorism? I mean, you guys don't seem

1735
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 5: that's it.

1736
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 20: Thank you. That's exactly what the president said. On our call.

1737
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 20: He was like, you don't look like terrorist to me.

1738
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 5: Couldn'tess.

1739
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's it's absolutely insane.

1740
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 5: So, uh, when the President got shot and we weren't

1741
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 5: sure if he was dead or not, did it go

1742
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 5: through your head that your parents might have to serve

1743
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 5: their entire sentence?

1744
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 20: At first, I was dry. I was on a road trip.

1745
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 20: I was driving down the road and I listened to

1746
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 20: Fox News all the time, Like my serious ExM is

1747
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 20: like the highway of Fox News. It doesn't change. And

1748
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 20: so when that happened, I just went numb and it

1749
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 20: for like, I genuinely loved the President for the encounters

1750
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 20: that I've had with him, because it's been very human

1751
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 20: to human encounters. But then yeah, I think when the

1752
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 20: dust settled, I thought to myself, like, again, that's my

1753
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 20: only way out, Like the President is literally the only

1754
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 20: way out to make sure that my parents come home,

1755
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 20: that my dad is there for my wedding, that my

1756
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 20: parents are there for my kids, Like he was the

1757
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 20: only way. If it would have went the other way,

1758
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 20: I wouldn't be sitting here today and my mom wouldn't

1759
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 20: be here.

1760
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 5: So you have lots of upcoming projects, yeah, and closing

1761
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 5: what's your message going to be to our young women

1762
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 5: here at the Young Woman's Leadership Semitch Gosh.

1763
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 20: I think for me, what I've learned, especially over the

1764
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 20: past few weeks, is there is power in being a female,

1765
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 20: and there's power in using your voice. And you you

1766
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 20: don't have to have an Ivy League education to do it.

1767
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 20: You have to stand firm in your beliefs, no matter

1768
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 20: who fights against you. I lost hundreds of thousands of

1769
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 20: dollars when I came out for the President, hundreds of

1770
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 20: thousands of dollars. I didn't know how I was going

1771
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 20: to pay my bills at one point, but I knew

1772
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 20: that I could no longer sell my sell my soul

1773
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 20: to the devil. I just couldn't do it anymore. And

1774
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,560
Speaker 20: when I got my parents out of prison, it was

1775
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 20: a very telling moment in the media and with other women.

1776
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:05,600
Speaker 20: Unfort Fortunately, I had women coming at me insinuating that

1777
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 20: I slept for a pardon, and to me, I was like.

1778
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 5: With Trump, with Trump or anyone.

1779
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 20: Else that I guess could supply it, and I was like,

1780
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 20: You've got to be out of your mind to insinuate this.

1781
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 20: But the sad part was it was coming from women.

1782
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 20: It wasn't coming from men. So we as women can

1783
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 20: either build each other up or we can tear each

1784
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 20: other down. And I think that's my biggest message is

1785
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 20: there's never a mission too big or too small, and

1786
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 20: we as women, there's power in numbers, and there is

1787
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 20: no one makes greater change than a off mom, daughter,

1788
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 20: friend like no one.

1789
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:46,600
Speaker 5: Savannah, thank you so much, thank you.

1790
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 20: I appreciate it. Thank you.

1791
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 5: Okay, we'll be coming to you live from our Student

1792
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 5: Action Summit tomorrow. There's still time to get your tickets

1793
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 5: to hear Pete Hegseth and Christy nom and Greg Duttfeldt

1794
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 5: and Tucker Carlson says twenty twenty five dot Com talk

1795
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 5: to you then,