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Speaker 4: Hope your Saturday is off to a fantastic start. We

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Speaker 4: have lots to talk about, We have lots to discuss.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I I just cannot start this

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Speaker 4: morning talking about Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: I just can't.

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Speaker 4: how we feeling today? Everything good?

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Speaker 5: Feeling good, and got Easter Sunday looming in the near distance.

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Speaker 5: The Bunny's gonna drop off baskets and hide eggs at

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Speaker 5: the Ormberger casa. So we are uh, we're look, I mean,

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Speaker 5: we're not gonna set out bunny traps this year.

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Speaker 3: We did that last year and bunny traps, no.

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Speaker 5: Kidding, you know what, We actually do that on Saint

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Speaker 5: Patrick's Day for those darn leprechauns who always up end

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Speaker 5: chairs and cause mischief.

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Speaker 3: We haven't called a leprechaun yet.

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Speaker 5: We haven't, we haven't done it. But the bunnies they're

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Speaker 5: good to us, so we let them go. They freelance,

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Speaker 5: and then they leave and then they fill out their

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Speaker 5: ten nineties.

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, this is he's he's running like a whole

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Speaker 6: racketeering operation over there.

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Speaker 7: We got it.

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Speaker 6: We might have to call the IRS. Taxes will do

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Speaker 6: a few days ago. Bruh, Brian, I don't know what's

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Speaker 6: going on over there in the Ormburger household.

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Speaker 7: I've got one.

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Speaker 3: He's there.

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Speaker 7: He's on the couch right now. He's hanging out, he's sleeping.

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Speaker 7: That's the only bunny out there.

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Speaker 4: You go this weekend, jack butt, jackpot, the easter bunny

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Speaker 4: right there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt. I'll tell you what, Jared.

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Speaker 4: We've done a show long enough where I can just

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Speaker 4: picture Rich all In on the hiding of the.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he is like, Oh, that's I haven't used

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Speaker 4: that spot yet. They have no chance with this.

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Speaker 7: Kids like a big underneath.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you guys are talking about. That's

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Speaker 3: a that's the bunnies job. Like I said, that's taxable.

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Speaker 6: I could see you dressing up as the Easter Bunny.

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Speaker 6: I could totally see that. And I and also I

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Speaker 6: think I I think I remember clips from Christmas you

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Speaker 6: dressed up as Santa Claus.

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Speaker 5: Right that that was many, many years ago. I was

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Speaker 5: just one of his many helpers. There's very many helpers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Actually, during my time in New England, when I

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Speaker 5: party and they didn't have a Santa. I think the

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Speaker 5: Santa honestly didn't show up. But a place that they

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Speaker 5: out this old musty red costume out of this bin

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I know, I apologize.

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Speaker 4: It's like bad Santa the movie, you know, like Billy

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Speaker 4: Thornton Thing movie.

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Speaker 7: Great movie.

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Speaker 4: All right, So I know you guys are fired up

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Speaker 4: for the NFL Draft. It is getting closer and closer.

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Speaker 4: We'll get knee deep into the NBA playoffs and plenty

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Speaker 4: other topics going on here. Will give Lee Corso his

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Speaker 4: shout out and his flowers that he richly deserves. We'll

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Speaker 4: get to all those things, but we start with the

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Speaker 4: draft here today. And I was thinking about this. The

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Speaker 4: real intrigue is Shadre Sanders. Right, where is he gonna go?

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Speaker 4: I think the rock star of the intrigue of this draft.

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Speaker 4: If you put that to the side, because we've talked

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Speaker 4: I think it's Ashton Genty Just when does he go? Also,

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Speaker 4: where does he go? But he's a top five talent?

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Speaker 4: Where does Ashton Genty go? If we put Shador to

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Speaker 4: the side, that personally for me, that's what I'm most

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Speaker 4: interested in. Rich you what's on your list outside of Shador.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna agree with you and say Ashton Genty

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Speaker 5: and and for no other reason other than among the

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Speaker 5: players that I got to watch this college football season

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Speaker 5: on the call in the booth, I watched Ashton Genty

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Speaker 5: live and he's untackleable. And I want to see if

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Speaker 5: because if it does, he is going to be the

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Speaker 5: next special talent at the running back position in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: And we know since defenses are defending the pass and

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Speaker 5: his college career ended somewhat unceremoniously, as cam Ward. I

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Speaker 5: think he's a really talented quarterback he is a really

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Speaker 5: veteran quarterback. This guy played in fifty plus games. He

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Speaker 5: and he showed great ability there. He's athletic enough to

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Speaker 5: escape pressure and extend plays. Talent evaluators have said that,

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Speaker 5: you know, this guy gets it. He's a fast processor,

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Speaker 5: at least in the classroom. You can see sometimes on

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Speaker 5: And I don't know the level of coaching he was

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Speaker 5: of some of those ills at the next level. I

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Speaker 5: think he's a prospect who, even though he'll be taken

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean there's some people who think Ward, you know,

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Speaker 6: he's the guy at one and everyone everyone kind of

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Speaker 6: of the ball, I think the biggest there, Like, there's

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Speaker 7: I think that's where things get very interesting.

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Speaker 6: I was also at Ashton Genty in person here at

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Speaker 7: Fantastic talent.

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Speaker 6: It would be ironic if he does end up in

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Speaker 7: It was interesting. I caught a lot of spy.

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Speaker 6: Tech the New GM and Pete Carroll's pre draft interview yesterday,

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Speaker 6: and they obviously asked about Genti. And if you don't

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Speaker 6: think the GMS and the scouts and the coaches are

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Speaker 6: looking at all the media mock drafts, they absolutely are.

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Speaker 6: For two reasons. One it's it's interesting fodder. Two, they're

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Speaker 6: trying to get a sense of what the other teams

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Speaker 6: thinks this guy's going here, so maybe we get him.

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Speaker 6: So they're they're doing the same scheming, plotting that we

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Speaker 6: out who's going where. It looks like the draft starts

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Speaker 6: at four. I think the Patriots are gonna take alignment

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Speaker 6: of tackle to protect May. They have two choices, either

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Speaker 6: the kid from LSU or the kid from Missouri. The

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Speaker 6: reason I think it's gonna be the kid from LSU

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Speaker 6: he's actually a left tackle, where the other kid, Memboo,

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Speaker 6: feels like one two three with our guy Carter going

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Speaker 6: three to the Giants is very set and Travis Hunter

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Speaker 6: going two to the Browns. Yeah, the quarterback situation is

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Speaker 6: always the most intriguing And answer your original question, B know,

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Speaker 6: like I took a number on New Orleans a draft

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Speaker 4: Now that's been flipped.

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Speaker 6: I'm not one hundred percent sure that's where he's gonna

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Speaker 6: go because the quarterback situation is always interesting.

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Speaker 7: Like how desperate is Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 6: I've seen our guy Jeff Schwartz just mock up the

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Speaker 7: New Orleans and take your door in the top ten.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if they have the Ammo to get

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Speaker 6: gray Jackson Dart and Jalen Milroe being the ultimate wild card.

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Speaker 6: I think those are the most intriguing questions in this draft.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 4: The price tag has gone up over the years, but

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Speaker 4: I think back to Mahomes, Like the Chiefs moved up

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Speaker 4: keep that in mind, use that for what it's worth.

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Speaker 4: But man, I'm still stuck on genty because run. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's a deep running back draft, and I just wonder,

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Speaker 4: that says, yeah, he's special, but like the Raiders, our

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Speaker 4: offensive line isn't great, and so we're gonna grab our

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Speaker 4: running back a little bit later in the draft because

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Speaker 4: it's such a rich, you know, position here. But then

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Speaker 4: you also think of the team that right after this

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Speaker 4: is the draft, right after Saquon Barkley's enormous season, and

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Speaker 4: the last football game we saw was the Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: and his playoff run and all that stuff. Dereck Henry

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Speaker 4: had a monster season. So maybe there's a team that

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Speaker 4: gets running back, you know, starstruck, and they see this

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Speaker 4: rockstar and genty they take him pretty high. That's the

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Speaker 4: other thing is I think we can we're in store

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Speaker 4: for some surprises in the first round because if you

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Speaker 4: pay attention from team to team what they say about players,

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Speaker 4: it varies so much. I really don't remember it draft

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Speaker 4: where the opinions on first round players have varied as

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Speaker 4: teams are like, yeah, don't see it. It's like, wow,

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Speaker 4: there's a big gap between the two. There's one head

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Speaker 4: coach he said that he thinks Tyler Schuck is the

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Speaker 7: That's that the quote is.

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Speaker 4: Better than cam Ward. He's not a better prospect, but

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Speaker 4: So it's possible. I just think that the opinions differ

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Speaker 5: Well, and that goes back to maybe not an adage,

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Speaker 3: You really can't.

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Speaker 5: Like I remember at the very very very beginning of

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Speaker 5: it almost like you could have written that story before

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Speaker 3: And I don't know who put it out.

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Speaker 5: We'll never know who put it out, but somebody put

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Speaker 3: Just see if they're interested in a in a pick swap.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what capital.

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Speaker 5: I would need to move because we could use the

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Speaker 3: Why they come out.

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Speaker 5: I always ask myself, why am I reading this right now?

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Speaker 5: Is it just because somebody was kind enough to share

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Speaker 3: The answer is absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: There's a reason why you're reading every single thing, and

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Speaker 5: unless it's an attributed quote like Ashtenti back to your

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Speaker 5: to win this upcoming season and you want a player

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Speaker 5: like Sakwon Barkley on your roster, draft me, well, then

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Speaker 5: you can't trust the source because it has to be

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Speaker 3: So I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: This could be one of those drafts where we see

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: No, there's there's nothing that I believe over the last

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Speaker 7: In this little bubble of time like the last couple

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Speaker 6: Teams are just trying to put stuff out there, and

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Speaker 6: they so from my experience covering this now, this is

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Speaker 6: I put a little extra A little extra discernment is

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Speaker 6: shocked if Tyler Schuck goes anywhere in the top twenty.

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Speaker 6: That would be a very shocking development. Jalen Milroe is

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Speaker 7: And this is based, to be fair, off of my

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Speaker 6: I'm not basing this off of what the GMS do

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Speaker 6: I really, I mean, I'd be really surprised if there

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Speaker 7: Then there's the wildcard.

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Speaker 6: You know, and last year the quarterbacks went very early,

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Speaker 6: be very surprised. Mil Roe is the one name that

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Speaker 6: Dart I haven't heard. I've heard very mixed. I've heard

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Speaker 6: A team I think would really have to fall in

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Speaker 6: the Saqua Barkley effect is real, and I think the

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Speaker 7: With our guy Tyler Warren and Colston Lovelin.

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Speaker 6: I think Warren right now, I mean, imagine a top

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Speaker 4: it's time to rip the band aid off this Aaron

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 4: Rogers was on with Pat McAfee on Thursday, and these

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Speaker 4: And listen. The first sound you'll hear is a little

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Speaker 4: say this is completely true. My whole thing is why

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Speaker 4: This was the first story that he told on Pat

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Speaker 8: I think we're going to have this long conversation.

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Speaker 10: I've flown across the country and twenty seconds in he goes,

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Speaker 8: I was like, yeah, I'm interested.

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Speaker 10: And he said we're going a different direction in quarterback

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Speaker 8: And I said, what does that even mean?

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Speaker 10: Twenty seconds in, what I thought was going to be

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So that's the story with According to Rogers,

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Speaker 4: So there's that. There's that. But he also says in

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Speaker 8: I'm open to anything and attached to nothing.

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Speaker 10: So so, yeah, retirement still could be a possibility.

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Speaker 4: Okay, That's where I'm at, because if you have this

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Speaker 4: want peaceful Rogers. I don't want calm Rogers. I don't

441
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 4: want zen Rogers. I want fire breathing Rogers.

442
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Speaker 3: Right.

443
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 7: I just think what if this happened to Tom Brady.

444
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 4: What if Tom Brady flew across the country met with

445
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 4: the team twenty seconds in they're like, yeah, we don't

446
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 4: want you, and he has all that going on the

447
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 4: back and forth with the new head coach, and then

448
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 4: he has a legit offer on the table with another team.

449
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 4: You think that he's going on Pat McAfee's show openly

450
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 4: talking about retirement.

451
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 3: No way.

452
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 4: And that's where I'm at, Like, if you're openly talking

453
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 4: about retiring, you might as well just go ahead and retire, dude.

454
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 7: I just at this point, there's just.

455
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 4: A lack of fire. I got no sense of fire,

456
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 4: and I can't wait to prove this team wrong, in

457
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 4: this head coach wrong. But he's just like, yeah, you know,

458
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 4: I might just walk away. Then walk away. I don't

459
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 4: know what to tell you.

460
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 7: At this point.

461
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 5: I like Aaron Rodgers, and I know that's a controversial

462
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 5: statement because a lot of people are frustrated by him.

463
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 3: But I like him because.

464
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 5: I really do think he tries to be as honest

465
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 5: and as authentic as possible. Now, like, I don't agree

466
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 5: with every single thing he says, but I do like

467
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 5: the fact that we know what he's thinking. I think

468
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 5: there's so much subtext to what people say and even

469
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 5: sometimes what they do in you know, in the terms

470
00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 5: of celebrities or famous athletes, that it's really different to

471
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 5: trust what you're hearing. I think Aaron Rodgers is the

472
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 5: closest to the type of person who you could actually

473
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 5: trust what he's saying. I really do believe when he

474
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 5: says something that that's what he believes in that moment,

475
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 5: and it can change, just like any of us, Like

476
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 5: my opinions on things change all the time. I'm not

477
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 5: locked into my ideas because sometimes with new information, my

478
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 5: ideas will change with that information. I think that's where

479
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 5: Rogers is at, like many of us would be. You know,

480
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 5: it's oftentimes we look at football as just a job,

481
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 5: and it's not. I played this sport since I was

482
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 5: a kid. I remember falling in love with it in

483
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 5: high school. I played it in college at Penn State.

484
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 5: I was drafted by the Patriots. That was among one

485
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 5: of the proudest moments of my life. I will never

486
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 5: forget that moment alongside of my wife birthing our beautiful

487
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 5: two boys. I mean, draft day and our wedding day.

488
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 5: Of course, draft day is in the top five.

489
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Speaker 3: You know, So you fall in love with this sport.

490
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 5: This is a relationship you have with this sport, and

491
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 5: when it's time to say goodbye to the sport, it's

492
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 5: really hard to do it, and it takes sometimes years

493
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 5: to make that decision. And I think we're just hearing

494
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 5: authentically a guy who is battling that battle, and he's

495
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 5: been doing it at.

496
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: A very high level for a very long time.

497
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Speaker 5: And I'm sure he was pretty gunned up to get

498
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 5: back to work with the New York Jets at one

499
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 5: point or another or maybe upon taking that meeting with

500
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 5: the general manager and new head coach Aaron Glenn, he

501
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 5: was feeling like, Okay, they're flying me out there to

502
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 5: kick the tires on me, and you know, we're going

503
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 5: to talk about the plan for the upcoming season, and

504
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 5: it went completely differently. Again, if we're believing what he's

505
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 5: saying and we're taking it at face value and we're

506
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 5: understanding that what he's saying is exactly what happened, and

507
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 5: then getting kicked in the shins like that, and then

508
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 5: hearing that you're going to potentially have to sign with

509
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Vikings don't want you, all

510
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 5: of a sudden, that little voice in the back of

511
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 5: your head like hey Aaron, maybe we should hang it up,

512
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 5: Hey Aaron, maybe we should retire. It comes back and

513
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 5: it's just haunting you in the background of this decision

514
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 5: whether or not you want to play this upcoming season

515
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 5: or not. I totally get where he's at. And like

516
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 5: I said, do I agree with every word that comes

517
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 5: out of Aaron Rodgers' mouth all the time? No, nor

518
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 5: do I agree with the words that come out of

519
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 5: anybody's mouth all the time. But what I will say

520
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 5: this is I think he's being authentic. I think he

521
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 5: is taking us deeper inside the process here with a

522
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 5: super famous athlete than we've ever been with virtually anybody,

523
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 5: and I kind of appreciate it. So, like you said,

524
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 5: you need the buy in to be extremely high, I'm

525
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 5: telling you, Brian, for a lot of aging veterans in

526
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 5: this sport, especially where this sport does take a lot

527
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 5: from you as the years go on, I think it's

528
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 5: there's some courage in this level of honesty.

529
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's definitely open. I don't know how it comes off.

530
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 6: As hypocritical because so I was doing some research in

531
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 6: this fan account and j Matt NYJ Matt found a

532
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 6: screenshot of tweet from Aaron Rodgers dated April fourteen, twenty thirteen,

533
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 6: where he said meeting in person greater than phone call.

534
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 7: Always. He can't make it up.

535
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 6: He just can't make it up that he and listen,

536
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 6: do I remember everything I tweeted from twelve years ago?

537
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 6: And does it align perfectly with what I believe today? No? Obviously,

538
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 6: you know your feelings evolve, and you know who you

539
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 6: are twelve years ago is not the same person you

540
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 6: are today. So it's fair that Aaron's changed his mind

541
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 6: on this topic. But let's be like, the one thing

542
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 6: Aaron's been consistent about is wanting to spotlight, and that

543
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 6: is what is happening here. I don't think he's going

544
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 6: to make a decision before the draft. I don't know

545
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 6: how much it has to do with what he's saying,

546
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 6: which is the process and all this, and he doesn't

547
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 6: want to get pennixed like Kirk Cousins did last year.

548
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 6: Like if you decide that, oh, I'm gonna go sign

549
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 6: with Pittsburgh and then the Steelers do what our buddy

550
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 6: Jeff Schwartz thinks they're gonna.

551
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 7: Do and trade up and can't get you Dor Sanders, well.

552
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 6: That makes the decision a little bit less exciting.

553
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 7: So I relate to that.

554
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 6: Part of Aaron's decision making process. It doesn't if the

555
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 6: Steelers aren't saying you have to tell us now before

556
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 6: the draft, if they're giving him the rope to kind of,

557
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 6: you know, the leash to kind of wait on this

558
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 6: and mull it over, I absolutely would wait until after

559
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 6: the draft. It makes no sense for Aaron to make

560
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 6: the decision before the draft. For the Steelers, it makes

561
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 6: a ton of sense, because if you know you've got

562
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers in your back pocket, well, I'll be honest,

563
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh's roster all of a sudden has a ton of holes.

564
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 6: And it's not just the quarterback position. Cam Hayward's turning

565
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 6: thirty six this year. He's due a ton of money.

566
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 6: They could use help on the defensive line, obviously. I

567
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 6: know the dk Metcalf thing is intriguing, but I think

568
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 6: they're there is a lot of There are a lot

569
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 6: of holes on this roster and it would be nice

570
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 6: for the Steelers to know if Aaron Rodgers in their

571
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 6: back pocket going into the draft.

572
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 7: They picked twenty first next Thursday, But.

573
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 6: It makes no sense, Like if I'm Aaron, I I'm

574
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 6: not making decision before then.

575
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 7: The whole meeting should have been an email thing.

576
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 6: If I'm getting broken up with, I would prefer it

577
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 6: to be face to face. That's just me and the

578
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 6: whole company dime thing on my own dot. Come on, dude,

579
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 6: you're a freaking multi millionaire. You can't afford across country flight.

580
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 6: Like again, that's just my preference. Though I'm not Aaron.

581
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 6: I don't know if he would have preferred and a call.

582
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 6: But my guess is if the Jets would have called

583
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 6: him instead, McAfee's interview would have been, well, well, I

584
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 6: wish I should have gotten a face to face like

585
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 6: I should.

586
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 7: I deserve to face to face.

587
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 6: So it just seems like this is the spotlight that

588
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 6: Aaron wants and he's getting it.

589
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,240
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Speaker 4: the first part for me is you can't win with Rogers.

598
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: Just like Jared explained. If this is on the phone,

599
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 4: yet we're moving on in a different direction. They couldn't

600
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: even meet with me in person. They meet with him

601
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: in person. You couldn't just tell me that on.

602
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 7: The phone on my own dime.

603
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: It's such a deva mindset where Aaron Rodgers acts like

604
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 4: he's still an underwear model when he's really more like

605
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 4: a hand model at this stage. Right, Like the Vikings

606
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: aren't racing to sign him. The Jets just kicked him

607
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: to the curb. The Steelers are the best offer he

608
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: has by far, right now, maybe the best offer he's

609
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: gonna have, And he just doesn't want to look at

610
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: it that way, even though that's the reality and it's unfortunate. Man,

611
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: it's just sad. It reminds me of the movie Casino. Also,

612
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: you remember when Sharon Stone gets thrown out of the

613
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: restaurant by Joe Pesci and she's in the parking lot

614
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 4: and she's just yelling and screaming and pet She's like, okay, yeah,

615
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: all right, yeah. I think that's the reaction most people

616
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: have when Rogers does these interviews, where it's like, within

617
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: ten twenty seconds, it's like, okay, cool, yeah, I'm open

618
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: to anything and attached to nothing. So it's like, okay, cool, right, yeah, yeah,

619
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: we're just this Tuesday night, We're both not doing anything.

620
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 7: We're like open. Whatever you say, goes, babe, come on,

621
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 7: let's go.

622
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Speaker 3: I just that's like a movie line.

623
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Speaker 5: Someone had to feed him that line, Brian, I think

624
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 5: you're having a very similar reaction that a lot of

625
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 5: people have to Aaron Rodgers quotes that end up going

626
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 5: viral or picking up steam. And it does seem that,

627
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 5: especially as of lately, and I mean like over the

628
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 5: last half decade, Aaron Rodgers when the NFL Draft comes around,

629
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: his name is pumped out there like crazy. You know,

630
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 5: you remember when he was trying to divorce himself from

631
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 5: the Green Bay Packers and get traded somewhere the NFL draft.

632
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: It kind of felt like that's where the hard line

633
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 5: was drawn, and it's it's.

634
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 3: I get it.

635
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 5: I get how this feels very played and this feels

636
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 5: like up Yeah, same old stuff, just really ethereal strange

637
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 5: comments coming from a guy who loves the spotlight. But

638
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: but you know, again going back to what I was saying,

639
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 5: I understand that it's frustrating listening to a guy sort

640
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 5: of pour his heart out, you know, about his circumstance.

641
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 5: But if you really, if you really think about the

642
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 5: why of it all, like why.

643
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: Are we hearing this? I think there's two reasons.

644
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 5: I think one, he's trying to stir the pot to

645
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 5: see if there's any willing suitors out there still to

646
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 5: let them know a that the current offers on the table.

647
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 5: Whoever you are, right, whether it's the Steelers or there's

648
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 5: a secret team that nobody knows about yet that Aaron

649
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: and his team knows about. He's not interested to the

650
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 5: point where he's saying, I'd rather potentially retire than play

651
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 5: with any of you who already have a document on

652
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 5: the table with me. And what he's saying is, but

653
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 5: I'm still open for business. So I'm attached to nothing.

654
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: I'm open to everything. It's literally saying, hey, the shop

655
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 5: door is open. Okay, we have limited hours on the weekends,

656
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 5: so be careful what time you call.

657
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Speaker 7: But give me a phone call and let's have a talk.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: So if you're the Raiders and you know you're or

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Speaker 5: I guess they just signed Geno Smith. But if you're

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Speaker 5: a quarterback needy team who's not so sure what they're

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Speaker 5: going to do in the draft, and you want to

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Speaker 5: have a conversation and I think I'm a good fit

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Speaker 5: in your system.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm attached to nothing. Let's do business.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's the why behind what he said

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Speaker 5: there and the reason why he divulged.

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Speaker 3: So much there on Pat McAfee's show.

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Speaker 6: So my mom used to have a saying, So, my

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Speaker 6: mom come from a Jewish family, very Yiddish background.

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Speaker 7: When it comes to some of their weird equips.

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Speaker 6: My mom used to have a saying, shout out, mom,

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Speaker 6: if you're listening, it's like a high colonic and it's like,

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Speaker 6: you know, when you have to get a colonoscopy, Like

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Speaker 6: you know, anytime we would go through something that was,

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Speaker 6: you know, a little bit upsetting, she'd be like, Oh,

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Speaker 6: it's like a having a high colonic. That's what listening

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Speaker 6: to Aaron Rodgers and Pat McAfee's interviews like, it just

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Speaker 6: it just it's the same story over and over again,

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Speaker 6: and it makes you queasy.

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Speaker 7: And he's gonna end up somewhere he's not.

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Speaker 6: I think he's gonna play next year because there's gonna

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Speaker 6: be a team that's gonna get desperate and that's gonna

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Speaker 6: want to bring him in.

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Speaker 7: But I I like what you said originally.

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Speaker 6: Brian, he got fired by the Jets. I've been fired before.

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Speaker 6: We're all been fired before at some point in our lives.

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Speaker 6: If your initial reaction after getting fired is not, I'm

689
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Speaker 6: going to prove them so wrong that they are going

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Speaker 6: to regret firing me. That is the attitude of a winner.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not saying Aaron doesn't have that attitude, but

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Speaker 6: the surface level with what we saw the other day

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Speaker 6: on McAfee show was very diva like, uh, I.

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Speaker 7: Can't believe they did this to me, and you know,

695
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Speaker 7: they made me fly all the way across the country.

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Speaker 6: I respect what Aaron did. He ripped the band aid

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Speaker 6: off was met. Was his messaging a little harsh probably,

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Speaker 6: But they're trying to build a culture in New York.

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Speaker 6: It's not a fun culture. How do you think Belichick

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Speaker 6: would have handled that situation? You think he would have

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Speaker 6: coddled Aaron. No, And I'll be honest with you, Brady

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Speaker 6: would have never gotten to that point because he would

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Speaker 6: have never put himself in that situation where he was

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Speaker 6: the one getting fired.

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Speaker 7: He would have proactively went to Tampa like he did.

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Speaker 7: And I just if I'm a team, if I'm a GM,

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Speaker 7: I'm not going anywhere near Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 6: But there's a team that we'll get desperate because the

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Speaker 6: quarterback position is very important, and he is a bright,

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Speaker 6: shiny toy who can maybe lure you to a postseason.

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Speaker 6: The only way that the Steelers continued is Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 6: above five hundred run is if they bring in a veteran.

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Speaker 6: They're not gonna do it with the quarterbacks they have

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Speaker 6: on their roster. Now they're gonna have to sign Aaron.

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Speaker 6: I think they're gonna go defense in the draft and

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Speaker 6: then they're gonna sign Aaron the next day. That's what

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Speaker 6: I think is gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say extra quick. And it's perfect timing because

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Speaker 4: said if he were in the same shoes. No chance.

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Speaker 4: And for years it was look at the talent, at

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, and that was a big part of his success.

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Speaker 4: But the mindset that differs between the two, that tells

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Speaker 1: Check this out with Harlay Letter.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we get to the calming waters of Lake Parlay

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Speaker 4: platter here, do each have one selection for you? We

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Speaker 4: pull it together for a greater payout. Mister theme Jared Smith,

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Speaker 4: what are we working with here today?

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Speaker 7: Play the music, baby theme music.

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Speaker 6: Now there's there's a little NBA vibes, you know, you know,

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Speaker 6: trickling into.

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Speaker 7: The world because the playoffs start today. I guess technically

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Speaker 7: I started earlier this week with the playing game. You

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Speaker 7: know most of those are kind of sweaters. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 7: go there, you go for that job. I'm going with

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Speaker 7: Josh Hart.

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Speaker 4: I think Kevin Hart dancing now, you know, with those

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Speaker 4: those commercials, I can't have any more Kevin Hart.

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Speaker 7: But how about Josh Hart.

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Speaker 6: How about Josh that's a grit transition. Actually, Josh Hart

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Speaker 6: over nine and a half rebounds. This is the time

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Speaker 6: of year where our guy Tips.

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Speaker 7: Just works, works his players to the bone.

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Speaker 6: So last year and maybe he's learned from his mistakes,

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Speaker 6: But last year, Josh Hart went from thirty three minutes

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Speaker 6: per game in the.

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Speaker 7: Regular season to forty two in the postseason.

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Speaker 6: He averaged almost twelve rebounds per game in the postseason.

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Speaker 6: Eight of his first thirteen or excuse me, eight of

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Speaker 6: the thirteen postseason games went to double digit seven of

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Speaker 6: the first nine before it kind of ran out of

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Speaker 6: gas in that Pacer series, will go over nine and

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Speaker 6: a half rebounds against the Pistons. He has done this

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Speaker 6: in one of the three matchups earlier this year.

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Speaker 3: All Right, I love that one. How about this one?

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Speaker 5: Lakers star Luka Doncic over twenty eight and a half

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Speaker 5: points ten of his last fifteen games. His points over

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Speaker 5: has hit Minnesota's defense.

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Speaker 3: Still let starz. He has mentioned lucas a star. I

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Speaker 3: think he goes over twenty and a half points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, t Wolves had no answer for him last year.

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Speaker 3: They still don't.

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Speaker 4: So I hear what you're where you're going with I

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Speaker 4: spell with your cook Rich. I'm gonna go with Kat.

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Speaker 4: Give me Karl Anthony Towns. I'm gonna take him over

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Speaker 4: one and a half threes. Gotta hit two threes against

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Speaker 4: the Pistons. And I like it because Jalen Duran he

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Speaker 4: doesn't like to go stretch out to guard those guys

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Speaker 4: along the perimeter. So I think Kat's gonna have a

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Speaker 4: couple of open looks. It's a you know, the first

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Speaker 4: game of the series against the Pistons, I think Kat

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Speaker 4: comes to play. I think he's good for two threes today,

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Speaker 4: So I'll take it and Jared, we're looking at a

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Speaker 4: payout of plus three sixty one.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty BADGP plus.

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Speaker 4: Oh what is going on? Hope your Saturday is going

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Speaker 4: great right now and just gets greater. You know, great

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Speaker 4: leads the greater sounds like a good game plan right there, right,

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Speaker 4: sense I think?

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Speaker 3: So, all right, we're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna get to the shock factor here in just a

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Speaker 4: So I was thinking about this. We might have some

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Speaker 4: shocking draft picks on Thursday night, right, and so I

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Speaker 4: wanted to throw out a couple of shocking scenarios. And

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Speaker 4: I want you to rank the shock factor here. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So if you use a scale from one to ten,

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Speaker 4: one you're not shocked at all. Ten Your mouth is like,

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Speaker 4: you know, Aaron Rodgers hearing from Aaron Glenn, like, move on,

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Speaker 4: what what how can this be? You know you're stunned

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Speaker 4: that type of thing?

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Speaker 3: Or is he?

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Speaker 4: If I'm being accurate, he wasn't stunned that they moved

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Speaker 4: on from him, but they were stunned that they had

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Speaker 4: him fly out on his own dime and then broke

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Speaker 4: the news. That sort of thing. So ten is you

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Speaker 4: are just completely floored. You're shocked. Okay, so rich, we'll

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Speaker 4: start with you on a scale from one to ten.

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Speaker 4: What is your shock factor if the Jacksonville Jaguars they

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Speaker 4: select running back Ashton Genty at fifth overall? Huh, what

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Speaker 4: number are you putting on that shock factor?

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Speaker 3: That's a low shock factor for me.

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Speaker 5: And it's because there are certain war rooms, you know,

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Speaker 5: front offices, head coach, ownership groups, whoever's going to be

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Speaker 5: in the room, the boardroom where the final determination is made,

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Speaker 5: where you draft the best overall player on the board.

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Speaker 5: You're not worried about what position they play. You're not

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Speaker 5: really worried, especially if there's you know, quote unquote a

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Speaker 5: hung jury, like where there's a lot of different opinions

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Speaker 5: in the room and nobody can really make up their mind,

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Speaker 5: and it's like, look, we got to go with best

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Speaker 5: available because we need to make a decision, and we're

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Speaker 5: not trading our pick because we like the asset value.

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna go with Ashton Genty, I could see

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Speaker 5: him going in the top five of this NFL draft because,

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Speaker 5: like Jared and myself, when you watch this guy in person,

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Speaker 5: like many of these scouts, probably all of these scouts

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Speaker 5: at one point or another did, especially his final season

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Speaker 5: at Boise State, it is like watching a professional running back.

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Speaker 5: There's you know, Bijon Robinson comes to mind. You know,

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Speaker 5: Saquon Barkley comes to mind. You know, the type of

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Speaker 5: players at the collegiate level, you just know they're gonna

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Speaker 5: be all right at worst, they're gonna be all right

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Speaker 5: at the next level.

872
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 3: So that would not shock me at all. If the Jags, So.

873
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 5: I'll put out of ten, I'll put a two on

874
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 5: it in terms of least shocked to most shocked.

875
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll go a little higher. I'll go like four,

876
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 6: but wouldn't be shocking because.

877
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 7: He's two to one to go to the Jags.

878
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 6: So again, like the odds are saying he's the second

879
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 6: favorite to go to Jacksonville, the Raiders are the favorite.

880
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 6: But the other thing you have to consider here, first

881
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 6: year GM James Gladstone, first year head coach Liam Pollend.

882
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 7: That's a wild card.

883
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 6: Gladstone comes from the Rams, the less snee Tree. They

884
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 6: like to emphasize the trenches. That's why I think the

885
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 6: Jags the smart money says they're gonna go Mason Graham,

886
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 6: the kid out of Michigan. And the reason why is

887
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 6: because there's a connection there. The Jaguars linebacker coach Kevin

888
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 6: Wilkins coach the d line of Michigan last year. I'm

889
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 6: always looking for these connections, and I think that makes

890
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 6: the most sense. But would it shock me to my

891
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 6: core if Liam Cohen, who the Jags basically ripped away

892
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 6: from the Bucks, had a little bit of veto power

893
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 6: in the room with the first year GM and say, hey,

894
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 6: mister Gladstone, I need a weapon. But they have Etn

895
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 6: and Bigsby on the roster, so I think it would

896
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 6: be I would say four or five. If they take

897
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 6: Kent at five, I'd go five.

898
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 4: With my shock factor, because listen, we know Gent is special.

899
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: But I like what you said, Rich, Saquon Barkley comes

900
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: to mind, and the Jags or whoever drafts Jant, they

901
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: might think of Saquon with Philly, right, But if the

902
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: Jags draft Gent, it's more like with the Giants, right,

903
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 4: Like is that did I get in the full effect

904
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: with an outstanding offensive line. So and I didn't watch

905
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 4: Jacksonville and think, you know what, if they're just a

906
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: running back away from really definitely.

907
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 7: They need more than their running back.

908
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: They need that.

909
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Graham makes more sense. But yeah, I'd

910
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 4: go five. I'd go five. Okay, how about this, what

911
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: would be your shock factor if a team not named

912
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: the Giants, Saints, or Steelers drafts Shoulder Sanders, Right, those

913
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: are the three teams that we typically hear. But what

914
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 4: if he goes somewhere else? What would be your shock factor?

915
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 6: Rich?

916
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: I think I would be I think it would be

917
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: relatively shocked.

918
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 5: I think I would be up there reaching out to

919
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: like a six or seven because if you really start

920
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 5: looking around the NFL and thinking about the current quarterbacks,

921
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 5: how many teams are really desperate like to have a

922
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 5: down quarterback year when there's not.

923
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: Now.

924
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 5: I'm not saying there's always a need for a great

925
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: quarterback and you never want to miss out on potentially

926
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 5: a franchise player at that position, especially YadA YadA YadA,

927
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 5: but the reality of the situation is of the years

928
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 5: where there's not a deep quarterback draft, there also doesn't

929
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 5: appear to be as great of a need throughout many

930
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: of the teams in the NFL at quarterback. I'm not

931
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 5: saying teams are perfect. Like Gino Smith with the Raiders

932
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 5: definitely feels more like a placeholder than he does a solution.

933
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 5: But we know that, you know, there's a lot of

934
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: teams that have a guy, you know, like, for example,

935
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 5: give you exactly like Tampa Bay, Is Baker Mayfield going

936
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 5: to win a Super Bowl there? I mean my best

937
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 5: guess is not, But is it potential? Is there a

938
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 5: potential there? Yeah, there's potential there. I mean, is Matthew

939
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 5: Stafford gonna win another super Bowl with the Rams? My

940
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 5: guess is not. But is there potential if he plays

941
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 5: out of his mind like a younger Matthew Stafford? Yeah, Okay,

942
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 5: there's a lot of teams that are in that. Yeah,

943
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 5: I could see it. Maybe there's a couple of really

944
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 5: needy teams you just name them. So I would be

945
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 5: pretty shocked if a team outside of those three drafted

946
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 5: and should or Sanders.

947
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: So give me a seven on that.

948
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 7: One, I'd be a nine. I'd be really shocking.

949
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 9: Wow.

950
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 6: I think there's only one scenario where Shador doesn't end

951
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 6: up with one of those three teams you listed, be no.

952
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 6: And that's if everyone passes on him and he falls,

953
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 6: and the Browns get trigger happy and move up and

954
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 6: take them because they're already gonna have Travis Hunter on

955
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 6: their team. And boy would that be a fun story

956
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 6: if they had Shador and Travis. But I mean, like

957
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 6: the odds are saying he's going in the top ten,

958
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, top fifteen. So again, unless he

959
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 6: is the Aaron Rodgers of this draft, unless he's the

960
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 6: Will Levis of this draft, and he slides and all

961
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 6: of a sudden, a team that, to Rich's point, isn't

962
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 6: desperate for a quarterback but wants to add one, like

963
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 6: the Browns just signed Joe Flacco. They love Ken pick

964
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 6: it obviously they want to bring in a rookie, but

965
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 6: not at two because cam Ward's gonna be off the board.

966
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 6: So if Shador slides, I could see the Browns getting

967
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 6: a little trigger happy. Or a team like the Giants, right,

968
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 6: a team that is near the top of the second

969
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 6: round that maybe wants to get back into the first

970
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 6: round to take Shador late in the first round because

971
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 6: he falls. So that's one scenario. Out of ten, So

972
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 6: I would say nine out of ten scenarios, it's gonna

973
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 6: be New Orleans or even you mentioned he already mentioned

974
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 6: the Giants, so that covers them. It's probably gonna be

975
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 6: New Orleans or Pittsburgh, maybe the Giants, but the Brown's

976
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 6: the only outside shot if Shador falls.

977
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: Okay, So this is gonna sound like it's way too difficult. Okay, Like, initially,

978
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 4: if it's a team not named the Giant, Saints or Steelers,

979
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 4: draft Knight, somebody just draft Shador in the moment, it'd

980
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 4: be like whoa, it'd be at least an eight for me.

981
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: But if I like calm down and really thought about it,

982
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 4: it'd be more like a four. It really would, because

983
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: if there are other teams that are interested and should

984
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: why are they gonna let it be known? It just

985
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 4: doesn't make sense. Again, we're at the poker table. Why

986
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 4: are they whispering to the guy next to him like.

987
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 7: Hey, I got pocket kings?

988
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: Why why would you do that? It makes no sense

989
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: to do that.

990
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 6: So keep the follow up something on this for you? Yeah, yeah,

991
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 6: the Falcons with Panics last year?

992
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 7: What was your shot?

993
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 4: Where'd that come from?

994
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: But?

995
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 7: Right, are you like that was not that was a ten.

996
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 7: That was an eleven out of ten.

997
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 4: Shot, that was a seventeen. But but if you think

998
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 4: about this draft, I don't see the Giants taking Shaduur. No,

999
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 4: and some of these beat reporters that follow the Saints

1000
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 4: that are all over it, they're like laughing at the

1001
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: idea of Shaduur being the draft pick. If he somehow

1002
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 4: gets past nine, I think all bets are off. Like

1003
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 4: what happens if the Colts they're at fourteen? People think,

1004
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: I'm out of my mind. The Colts are at fourteen,

1005
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 4: Shadour is still on the board. You're taking a tight

1006
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 4: end when you've got Anthony Richardson and Daniel Joan. This

1007
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 4: is your quarterbacks right now, right like what team is?

1008
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 4: Just like, we can't pass this up. If he slides

1009
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: a little bit, that that's possible. So yeah, I would

1010
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,479
Speaker 4: go four. I'm lower on the shock factor there. Okay,

1011
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 4: how about this, what would be your level of shock

1012
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 4: scale from one to ten? Rich If the top three

1013
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: picks are not Cam Woard, Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, we

1014
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: get some other variation, what would be your shock?

1015
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: Oh that is a great question.

1016
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, because now you're offering up like the rest of

1017
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 5: the draft, and we have some really talented players asking

1018
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 5: gent nah, I mean, but then you you always gotta

1019
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 5: circle back to need, right, you always gotta hmm. I'm

1020
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 5: trying to think who could trade up to one of

1021
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 5: those spots and who would they be interested in not

1022
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 5: to get snagged before it's their turn, And I'm having

1023
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: a hard time because again, those are some needy teams

1024
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 5: at the top of the draft. My shock fact, just

1025
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 5: because I'm having I'm having a hard time reaching out

1026
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 5: and grasping anybody who would even be able to reach

1027
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 5: into the first three picks and take any of those

1028
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 5: players off the board away from anybody else. I'm gonna

1029
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 5: say a nine, Like, I don't know if it's ultimately

1030
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 5: a ten, because we see draft A situations all the

1031
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 5: time where we're like out of nowhere, blah blah blahs,

1032
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 5: trade it up and who are they targeting? But yeah,

1033
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 5: give me a nine or even I'm leaning toward a

1034
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 5: nine and a half. This draft sort of feels slotted

1035
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 5: through three, so I would be extremely shocked if it

1036
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 5: didn't go as you just described.

1037
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 6: Nothing in life is one hundred percent except for the

1038
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 6: top three of this draft.

1039
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 7: I am okay, well, for let's just go one by one.

1040
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1041
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 7: Ward is minus ten thousand to be drafted first.

1042
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 3: It's done.

1043
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 7: One is done.

1044
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 6: Travis Hunter is minus a thousand to be drafted second.

1045
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 6: I mean it just it did. I just don't see

1046
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 6: Cleveland not taking Travis Hunter right. The only wild card

1047
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 6: here is the Giants. Why Joe Shane and Brian Dable

1048
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 6: are on a very short leash and wounded animals sometimes

1049
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 6: get desperate. That is the only little sliver that they

1050
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 6: might go in a different direction. But then, if logic prevails,

1051
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 6: Abdul Carter is the number one player at a premium position.

1052
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 6: It would have to be like the craziest trade of

1053
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 6: all times, or like the most absurd Joe Shane fever

1054
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 6: dream to not take Abdell Carter at three. And I

1055
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 6: know that they have a lot of good defensive linemen

1056
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 6: on the roster. But if you have Brian Burns and

1057
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 6: Dexter Lawrence and you add Abdul Carter to that mix,

1058
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, your defense is legit.

1059
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 7: Man.

1060
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 6: And the fact that it's Russell Wilson or Jamis Winston

1061
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 6: at quarterback isn't as glaring, because if you only give

1062
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 6: up twenty points a game, well, maybe you got a

1063
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 6: shot to win six or seven or maybe even and

1064
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 6: sneak into the back door of the playoffs with one

1065
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 6: of those guys at quarterback because your defense is a

1066
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 6: lockdown unit. So I think that would be like a

1067
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 6: nine point nine nine nine nine if it's not Ward

1068
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 6: Hunter Carter one two three.

1069
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, listen, I in the moment, I would be

1070
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 4: pretty surprised. I'd put it at least at an eight.

1071
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: But if I thought about it more like, Okay, you

1072
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: just threw out the betting odds at number two there,

1073
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: What if the Browns are like, yeah, we're going Abduall Carter,

1074
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 4: would you just be shocked, beyond shocked. No, that they're

1075
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: just like we're right, like we're going Abduall Carter and

1076
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett and good luck, good luck blocking those guys, right,

1077
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be It wouldn't be shock of shocks if

1078
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 4: they went in that direction. I think they'll go with

1079
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter. I think these will be the top three picks.

1080
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 4: But in the moment, I'd be floored. The more time

1081
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 4: I thought about it, I wouldn't be as floored if

1082
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 4: the Browns went abdual Carter number two.

1083
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 6: I like this introspective, analytical beno. We have here, uh

1084
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 6: attached to nothing, open to everything?

1085
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: Right? I agree? This is very Roger. This is very area.

1086
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Speaker 7: Yeah, very meta.

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Speaker 3: I will say.

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Speaker 5: This though, you know, the only pushback I'll give you

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00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 5: on the Browns taking a defensive end. When you start

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00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 5: thinking about like the way a team is built, it's

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00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 5: like it's like, think about it like a house, like

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00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 5: if I'm going to renovate a house, because that's what

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00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 5: it is. It's a consistent renovation. When you're talking about

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00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 5: the draft or free agency or trading for players. If

1095
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 5: you invest all of your assets into your kitchen, you

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00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 5: may have one really kick ass kitchen.

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00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: But what about the bathrooms?

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00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you didn't update those bathrooms since the nineties.

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00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's crazy, you know what I mean? What

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00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 3: about what about the living room? I mean you still

1101
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: have the shag carpet. That's just really you.

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Speaker 4: Know that's true. But that's here's the thing, though, Rich

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00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 4: I smell what you cook, it do. But this is

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00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: where it differs. If you have this unbelievable kitchen in

1105
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: the NFL, it helps your bathrooms and it helps your

1106
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 4: living rooms. That's not the way it works with the house.

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00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 4: But if you have these two defensive ends that are

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00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 4: just putting heat on the on the quarterback, it helps

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00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 4: your secondary. That's where it differs. And that's what a

1110
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 4: team might think. They're like, we're just gonna be special

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00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: here and you can't do anything about it, and it's

1112
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: gonna help for other units.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't disagree, And I mean, we've seen this work.

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00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 5: We've seen the I mean, look, it doesn't work all

1115
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 5: the time, but immensely talented defenses can carry a team

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00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: with quarterbacks like Trent Pilfer, you know what I mean.

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00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: Like that has happened. I mean, and it's happened over

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00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 3: the past quarter century. It doesn't happen often, but it

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00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: can happen.

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Speaker 5: But the only argument I'll pose against that point is

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00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 5: it's not necessarily what works all the time, it's what

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00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 5: the homeowner wants. Do you think the Browns ownership wants

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00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 5: to invest that much money in the kitchen? And if

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00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 5: the answer is that yes, then you're right. Maybe Carter

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00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 5: does go to the Browns, But my guess is they're

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00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 5: gonna want to spread the wealth and not get too

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00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 5: heavily invested in one room of the house. They're gonna

1128
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 5: want to sprinkle a little here, sprinkle a little there,

1129
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 5: because that's what homeowners want to do. You don't want

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00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: to have just the best kitchen in the neighborhood and

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00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 5: then have people used at bathrooms and say, hey, you

1132
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 5: guys don't have indoor plumbing.

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00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: This is strange. Why am I peeing in the backyard?

1134
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? So I do think that

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00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter goes to the Browns.

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Speaker 7: That's the beauty of Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 6: He's the master bedroom and the kitchen. He's a wide receiver,

1139
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 6: gets he checks multiple boxes in that he Playsum, that's

1140
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 6: not too much kitchen, bathroom dot by.

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00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 4: Though, one thing to keep in mind is with Travis

1142
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 4: Hunters saying I'd rather retire than not play both sides

1143
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 4: of the ball, right, Like seriously, the one that was

1144
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 4: like eh about the two way thing was the Browns. Yeah,

1145
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 4: so what if the Browns look at this and say, Man,

1146
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 4: this guy's willing to quit if we're not giving him

1147
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: x amount of snaps on both sides of the ball.

1148
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 6: Say he can see him playing both ways. Though I

1149
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 6: did listen to the press conference the other day Barry.

1150
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 6: Barry did admit both ways is open for Hunter. I

1151
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 6: think that's why they're going to take them.

1152
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they probably will.

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00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: Probably.

1154
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 5: I think we could see him primarily look primarily playing

1155
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 5: the position he can help the team out the most,

1156
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 5: but I could see in specific packages getting him.

1157
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: Involved on the opposite side of the ball.

1158
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 6: I think he's going to be a better receiver. But

1159
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 6: that's just me personally, That's just what I'm reading. I

1160
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 6: don't really greater evaluate receivers or corners as much the

1161
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 6: quarterbacks to the position that I feel comfortable evaluating a

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00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 6: little bit.

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00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 7: From what I've heard, he's a better receiver. Well that's

1164
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 7: just my opinion.

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00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: Wow.

1166
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Speaker 4: Interesting, I think he's going to be a better corner

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. But we'll see, We'll see how it unfolds.

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Speaker 7: All right, coming up next, our main man.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do this follow the money real good one?

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Speaker 4: Ah, Yes, we welcome in Seamus McGee, our main man,

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Speaker 4: good morning to you man. We've got the NBA playoffs here.

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Speaker 4: What do you need first round?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: Within reason? I know you probably want to see the

1204
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 4: like the Orlando Magic upset the Celtics or something crazy

1205
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 4: like that. Within reason. What are you hoping for at

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Speaker 9: It's great to be back as always. Lakers being bounced

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01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 9: first round would be great. Same with the Warriors. Those

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01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 9: are two teams that have taken just a ton of

1210
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 9: action really in the futures markets all year. And another

1211
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 9: one here Pistons are decent liability for the book as well.

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Speaker 9: It actually be pretty good for the Knicks to go

1213
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 9: in a little run for us. I think that lively

1214
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 9: number would probably go up the longer the next day

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01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 9: in but as it ends right now, like we wouldn't

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01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 9: mind seeing the Pistons, Warriors, Lakers, and Rockets get bounced early.

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Speaker 6: Just a quick follow up, I know that the regional

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Speaker 6: bias shamus sometimes impacts bet MGM. For those unaware, MGM

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Speaker 6: has a stronghold in the state of Michigan, and you're like,

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Speaker 6: wait a minute, the Pistons are a liability. It makes

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01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 6: sense if you connect those dots, right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it doesn't matter the sport. They just love their

1223
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 9: teams in that state. Every year Tigers, Lions, Red Wings.

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Speaker 9: I mean, they make the playoffs this year, but every year.

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01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 9: Really it's we could go with that, a Michigan team

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Speaker 9: taking home a championship.

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Speaker 7: Thank God, the Michigan teams are bad. I guess I.

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Speaker 9: Means it might be to say, hey.

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Speaker 5: Seam is when when you start looking at the NFL draft,

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Speaker 5: is there value on this board in your opinion, especially

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01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 5: especially when you're looking at the top three or top

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01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 5: five picks. Even is there a pick or picks that

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01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 5: you can circle with pencil at least and say, hey, yeah,

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 5: there might be value in this one.

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Speaker 9: The closer we get, the more this. You know, these

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01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 9: markets are starting to be shaped like top three you're

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 9: seeing but it looks like that feels like it's set

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01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 9: right now, but again, anything could happen. Like number one

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01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 9: it's going to be camp Ward. I thought all week

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01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 9: there'd be some un certainly with two and three, like

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01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 9: what are the Browns going to do? But it seems

1242
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 9: pretty set they're gonna they probably are going to pick

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01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 9: Travis Hunter as far as the odds say right here.

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Speaker 9: For when you get a little interesting where the Patriot

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01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 9: it's going to do? Is it going to be Will Campbell?

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01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 9: It looks like it may be right now, but what

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01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 9: if some of these guys start falling when you get

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01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 9: to this five through nine range. I feel like that

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01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 9: is where he might be a little bit more of

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Speaker 9: a crapshoot ash to Gent has gotten some pretty crazy

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01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 9: steam to go fifth overall to the Jags right now,

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01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 9: and you never know what trades and whatnot, But for

1253
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Speaker 9: fifth overall, that's been some pretty nuts line movement right

1254
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 9: now because now it's there's some rumors gonna have the

1255
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 9: Jags really like Gent. The Raiders have gotten a ton

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Speaker 9: of love for Gent, and then you have this first

1257
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 9: line and take in market armand Membu has gotten some

1258
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 9: pretty big steam as far as the whole offseason has gone.

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Speaker 9: So I think there's definitely some value, especially when you

1260
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Speaker 9: talk about draft positions over unders. Those can move like

1261
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 9: crazy going into draft days. So definitely some some still

1262
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 9: value on the board.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting Seamus, where you think about what

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01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 4: you want during the draft, right, Like in general, do

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01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 4: you want more chalk?

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Speaker 7: Because I'm thinking about liability.

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Speaker 4: Take a player like Shduur Sanders, if he went to

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Speaker 4: the Saints, I mean you have to pay a bunch

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Speaker 4: of bets people betting on that. But if he goes elsewhere,

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Speaker 4: like say he goes to some wild card team and

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Speaker 4: you got to pay like forty to one or fifty

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Speaker 4: to one long shots. Like generally speaking, are you more

1273
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 4: times than not hoping for chalk or not helping for chalk?

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Speaker 9: It depends on the year. The past few years, it

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01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 9: feels like the more chalky it is, the worse the

1276
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 9: results are for us. I think we need some chaos

1277
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Speaker 9: here because the market gets shaped so liquid and it's

1278
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Speaker 9: who's going to be first to the information really, So

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Speaker 9: this is drafts are always one where the the betting

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Speaker 9: public definitely has a shot to beat the book, because

1281
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 9: if you're looking out for news more so than a

1282
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 9: few other books, you can catch some books sleeping here

1283
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 9: you can find one. So I think the more chaos

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Speaker 9: I think happens, it's better for us. You look at

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Speaker 9: Will Levis falling completely out of the first round, that

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Speaker 9: was just huge for the book.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I'll go on the record and say

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of the things we hear over

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Speaker 6: the last you know, two weeks is all the opposite,

1290
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Speaker 6: like the genty thing. If you're a team, for example,

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Speaker 6: if you think, if you know the Raiders want genty

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Speaker 6: at six and you're the Jags, wouldn't you want to

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Speaker 6: put out we want genty to see if there's some action,

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Speaker 6: there's some movement like that. You always have to think

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01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 6: of it from that perspective. So I don't believe anything

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Speaker 6: I hear in this time period, and I try to

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Speaker 6: base it off of what I you know, handicapped a

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Speaker 6: few weeks ago, even a few months ago. Seamus, I

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Speaker 6: think the draft, like I've been betting the draft since

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty, it has evolved immensely. This is my sixth

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Speaker 6: draft betting. Can you kind of frame how it is

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01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 6: differently to book the draft, because in twenty twenty, you

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01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 6: guys just wanted to get any product you could out

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01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 6: there because we were desperate to bet on something. So

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Speaker 6: I think the limits were higher, the markets were more robust.

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Speaker 6: Now we've seen a big contraction with a what you're

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01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 6: allowed to bet on b how much you're allowed to

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Speaker 6: bet on it.

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Speaker 7: It's changed your over the last few years.

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Speaker 9: I'll say this, The twenty twenty draft results Lives was

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01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 9: so bad for the book. The next year we said, okay,

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Speaker 9: we're supping everything back. We're getting sports back now, because

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Speaker 9: you're right, twenty twenty and during COVID that was something

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Speaker 9: we had to book, like we had to put up

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Speaker 9: a ton of markets just because we knew we were

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Speaker 9: going to get a lot of people who are going

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Speaker 9: to want to bet it. So and that was a

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Speaker 9: crazy one with like I think it was the to

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Speaker 9: a draft, I believe. So, Yeah, like Herbert, we burrow

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Speaker 9: back the two is Dick. We got crushed on and

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Speaker 9: the next year we're like, all right, we're scaling everything

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Speaker 9: like complete opposite direction. We didn't make sure we can

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Speaker 9: mitigate some some risk here. But then you know since then,

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Speaker 9: the more comfortable we get with the draft, you know,

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 9: the bigger our team has gotten. Really, the more eyes

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01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 9: we can get on it, that's when we're starting to

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01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 9: you add some markets back, but still also like you're

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Speaker 9: seeing lower limits on these compared to like twenty twenty. Uh,

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01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 9: just so we can keep eyeballs on this and you know,

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Speaker 9: mitigate any position that we need.

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Speaker 5: Seamus, when's the best time to bet the NBA postseason?

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 5: Is it early or is it later on in the postseason?

1333
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 5: Like are the books going to catch up a little

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01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 5: bit as they see more playoff basketball or do you

1335
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 5: think that, you know, the better gets a better edge

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Speaker 5: the more playoff basketball they get to see.

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Speaker 9: I don't know. This late in the game, it feels like,

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01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 9: you know, the market's pretty robust at this point. I

1339
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 9: feel like you're gonna have to be either chasing some

1340
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 9: scheme or you know, really be a decent handicapper at

1341
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 9: this I think the lines are pretty rock solid just

1342
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 9: coming now. But you know, you look at a team

1343
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 9: with like some injury concerns. Damian Littard is just like

1344
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 9: coming back apparently for the Bucks that's big news. So

1345
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 9: you know there is someone starting with those series where

1346
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 9: you are dealing with some injury news.

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Speaker 4: All right, Seamus, it's that time, the Seamus Special. What

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Speaker 4: is it today?

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Speaker 9: We're gonna go to the NHL playoffs starting today. I'm

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Speaker 9: going to take a shot with the Dallas Stars, the

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01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 9: very banged up on defense and they're going against the

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01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 9: very high caliber offense in Colorado. But if there's a

1353
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 9: guy you can steal game, it's Jake Ottinger and goal

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01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 9: for the Dallas Stars. I think this number's gotten a

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01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 9: bit big for being in Dallas.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, little puck action love it man, All right, James,

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01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 4: that's right. Fuck daddy, Hope you have a great day.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: Always good to catch up with you. We'll catch you soon.

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Speaker 9: Thanks, has having a good weekend.

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Speaker 7: Good Steve too.

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Speaker 4: to the NBA smorgasboard next hour. We'll look at all

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Speaker 4: the first round matchups. We'll look at all the games today,

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Speaker 4: four of them quadruple header. It's a beautiful thing. But

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Speaker 4: how about this. We've got some rule changes in college football.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to throw out there. So the Playing Rules

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01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 4: Oversight Panel, Like, my brain is a weird place. I

1377
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 4: just picture, like is this a pickup line? Like, hey baby,

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Speaker 4: I'm in the I'm on the Playing Rules Oversight Panel.

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Speaker 7: The assistant to assistant region.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right exactly. But anyway, the Playing Rules

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Speaker 4: Oversite Panel, they've come up with some new rules. So

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Speaker 4: the biggest rule change is they're trying to get rid

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01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 4: of the faking of injuries. We've seen this a lot

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Speaker 4: in college football, where these up tempo offenses. They're just

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Speaker 4: move and move and moving, and then there's a coach

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Speaker 4: on the sideline that tells the defender, like take a dive,

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Speaker 4: just go down, man, we need to catch our breath.

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Speaker 4: And so if that happens, if a player goes down

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Speaker 4: after the ball is spotted, his team loses a time out.

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Speaker 4: If the team is out of timeouts, it's a five

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Speaker 4: yard penalty. I would like it to be a little

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Speaker 4: bit stronger than that. But Rich, what do you think, man?

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Speaker 4: Are you a fan of this rule change to try

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Speaker 4: to get rid of the faking of injuries?

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01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,919
Speaker 3: I think it's a smart rule change.

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01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 5: I do think that it was smart of coaches to

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01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 5: take advantage of some of the rules that currently were

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Speaker 5: in place. So in terms of in terms of the

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Speaker 5: gray area that affords you, who's to say when a

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Speaker 5: player is actually injured?

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Speaker 3: Who's to say when a player is actually hurt? You know?

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 5: But if it's if something suspicious happens where you literally

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01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 5: have a coach who's designated on the adeline to point

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Speaker 5: to the ground and point to a player, and all

1405
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 5: of a sudden, that player drops like.

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Speaker 3: A sniper's in the stadium, Like what do we doing here?

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Speaker 5: So I think this is a good rule change, and

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Speaker 5: I'm supportive of it being a little tepid in terms

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01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 5: of turning up the heat. If there's there's room for

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01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 5: further punishment, like or if there's a need I should

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01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 5: say for further punishment, We'll cross that bridge when we

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Speaker 5: get there.

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Speaker 3: But I think this is a smart rule change.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this feels like you know, when you go to

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01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 6: Starbucks and they ask if you want room for milk

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,560
Speaker 6: and your coffee, Like there's still some room to adjudicate

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Speaker 6: this in a more harsh way. I think this feels

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Speaker 6: a little more like a slap on the wrist. The

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Speaker 6: way I'd like to see it ruled if you go down,

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Speaker 6: you're out for the series. And I think that would maybe,

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Speaker 6: you know, because right now, what you can do is

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01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 6: you can kind of skirt around, like is a coach

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 6: really going to care in the first half if they

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01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 6: lose a time out right?

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01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 7: Five yards?

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01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 6: Like this is this is supposed to prevent the explosives, right,

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01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 6: This usually happens after a team gets a big chunk

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01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 6: play and they're on the ball, because usually the best

1429
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 6: opportunity to pounce on a defense.

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01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 7: Is after they've given up an explosive.

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Speaker 6: So five yards is not punitive enough, and a time out,

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Speaker 6: especially in the first half, is definitely not punitive enough.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to see the player out for the series.

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Speaker 6: I think that would make it a little bit harder.

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Speaker 6: But then you could say, oh, just take the worst

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Speaker 6: guy on the team and have him go down, you know,

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01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 6: the worst starter on defense and have him go down

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Speaker 6: and then we can get around that. So there's always

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Speaker 6: going to be a way that coaches are trying to

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Speaker 6: find that edge. But I agree with you, Brian, I

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Speaker 6: think it maybe we're at like a medium, like like

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01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 6: a mild on on on the solcial scale here.

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01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 7: I think we can go a little higher.

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01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 4: I won't flame it high.

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Speaker 3: Let's do that.

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Speaker 4: But that's the thing is, it's interesting because you have

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01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 4: to have language to explain what triggers a penalty. They

1448
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 4: can't just say, hey, we know it when we see it, right,

1449
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: Like we know when a coach is telling a player

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01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 4: to take a dive. They have to have some sort

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01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 4: of language and some sort of trigger that will then

1452
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 4: indeed it turns into a penalty. So it's kind of

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01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 4: interesting where they're at right now. But I think the

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01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 4: harsher the penalty, the less likely you are to try

1455
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 4: to do that right now, you can, I mean, try it,

1456
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 4: you know if worst case, if we don't get away

1457
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 4: with it, we burn a time out, all right.

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01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, in the first half, nobody cares about the timeouts.

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01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love this. This is the dumbest change. This

1460
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 4: is so great. It sounds like I'm making this up.

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01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 4: This is absolutely true. So the terms the call stands,

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01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 4: the call is confirm, right, We've had that for a

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01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 4: long time. It's a thing of the past. It's old news.

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01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 4: Now referees will say on the field the call is

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01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 4: upheld or overturned. Big change in college football.

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Speaker 7: Wow, this groundbreaking.

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01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 4: Needed to be done, needed to be done.

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Speaker 7: A whole committee for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean like.

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Speaker 7: Get them rich.

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Speaker 5: I mean, okay, well, you know there was a there

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Speaker 5: was a law change in California that was, like you

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 5: have now, there has to be specific language on a

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 5: loaf of bread or on your milk that says this,

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01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 5: this product expires by this date, instead of having like

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01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 5: the clunky language of cell by or packaged on or whatever.

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01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 5: And you know, you know what, you know what dawned

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Speaker 5: on me.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, does anybody not just like open up the

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 3: carton of milk and sniff anymore?

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

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01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 5: Like, like, you know, I don't know how everybody else

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01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 5: is doing life. But I've been okay, I'm thirty nine,

1484
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 5: I've figured it out. If the bread's got mold, guess what,

1485
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 5: either a corner's getting cut off and it's getting thrown

1486
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 5: in the toaster anyways, or the whole loafs going in

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01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 5: the trash. It just depends on how desperate I am

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 5: for toast that morning. Like, figure it out, people, I

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01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 5: don't understand certain rule changes.

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01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 3: But okay, okay.

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01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 7: How much money did this committee get paid?

1492
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 6: How much taxpayer dollars we're getting wasted? Can we call

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01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 6: Elon Muss to figure out if there's some wasteful spending

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01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 6: going on with this committee?

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01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 7: I mean, that is an insane rule.

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 3: It's actually no, like it.

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Speaker 7: Makes sense logically.

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01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 6: But do you have to make a whole pop and

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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 6: circumstance big deal about that.

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Speaker 7: Just do what Rich did. Smell the bread, see if

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01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 7: there's mold, and move.

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01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 4: On with our lives that you know what? This is

1503
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 4: the equivalent of, instead of saying the call stands or

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 4: the call is confirmed, now it's upheld, right, this is

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01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,839
Speaker 4: this is the two minute I'm out quote unquote, oh.

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Speaker 6: God, don't get me started, right college.

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 4: Football, No, let's let's let's call it a two minute time.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure the same committee that thunk up that rule

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Speaker 6: probably had.

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Speaker 7: This one cooked up as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, but there is what one. That makes

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 4: a lot of sense. A loophole was closed. So you

1513
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 4: go back to that Oregon Ohio State game, like, okay, right,

1514
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 4: so Dan Lanning, the Oregon head coach, smart, smart move,

1515
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, twelfth guy get on the field, and

1516
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 4: there was no penalty against that other than hey, it's

1517
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 4: a it's a you know, like a five you had

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 4: twelve men on the field, but hey, you'll take the

1519
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 4: five yard penalty because it's more valuable to run time

1520
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,959
Speaker 4: off the clock. Now that loophole has been it's been closed.

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01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 4: If you're caught doing that intentionally putting a twelfth man

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01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 4: on the field, the offense has the option to put

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01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 4: the time back on the clock.

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01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 7: Smart.

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 4: Now, if a player is like running off to the

1526
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 4: sideline and doesn't quite get off the field, you don't

1527
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 4: have the option to put the time back on. But

1528
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 4: if it's clear that, like Oregon did, you're putting a

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 4: twelfth defender there, the offense could put the time back

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01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 4: on the clock. Now that makes sense, agree you, No,

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01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 4: I don't know why they're wasting time on the upheld

1532
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 4: overturned thing, but yeah, this part does make sense.

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01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 5: The hysterical unforeseen disaster that's going to happen, is there's

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 5: going to be a coach who who decides not to

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 5: do what's advantageous for their team in that moment, like

1536
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 5: given the options, and the officials are gonna be like,

1537
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:36,839
Speaker 5: are you sure it's going to be like a fireable events?

1538
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 5: Like man, Because listen, coaching is hard. You got a

1539
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 5: lot of things swirling around in your brain. Usage of timeouts,

1540
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 5: how many do we have left field position?

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Speaker 3: You know, all these different things.

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01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 5: When given another thing to think about, I'm telling you

1543
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Speaker 5: if I if I am a head coach or a

1544
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 5: general manager in college football right now, I am reviewing

1545
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 5: that situation a couple of time.

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 3: I'ms just in case because you never know, you never know.

1547
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 5: But uh but yeah, that's that's a good change because

1548
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 5: Dan Lanning took full advantage, yes, of a rule that

1549
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 5: that ended up netting him rat a win that maybe.

1550
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 3: He shouldn't have had.

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01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. All Right, We've got Rich Orenberger,

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Speaker 4: Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm

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Speaker 4: All right, Jared, we start with you, Betskalore, what's something

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Speaker 4: you like.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm very heavily invested, at least heavily engaged in

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Speaker 6: the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 7: I haven't made a ton of bets yet. I'll give

1570
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Speaker 7: you one that is a little juicy, and it involves

1571
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 7: my guy, Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 6: I think Tyler Warren to the Bears is just a

1573
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 6: match made in heaven.

1574
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 7: Again, this is the Brock Bauers effect.

1575
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 6: So GM Ryan Poles, he went really hard improving the

1576
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 6: offensive line of free agency.

1577
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 7: Kayleb Williams took at absurd sixty eight sacks last year.

1578
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 7: That makes a lot of sense.

1579
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 6: Now, I think you get Ben Johnson a shiny new toy.

1580
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 6: And if you go back and look at what the

1581
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 6: Lions offense has done in prior years under Ben Johnson,

1582
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 6: they run a lot of twelve personnel.

1583
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 7: Two tight ends on the field.

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01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 6: Well, if you look at the Bears roster, it's really

1585
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 6: just Coole Komet So I could see Poles trying to

1586
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 6: get Ben Johnson another tight end so Ben can run

1587
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 6: his very favorable twelve two tight end personnel.

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01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 7: And I think Tyler Warren, who.

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 6: Is plus three, he's seventy five to get taken tenth overall,

1590
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 6: is the pick to the Bears.

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01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 7: And that offense is gonna be a lot of fun

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Speaker 7: to watch.

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01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 3: Netgear, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 5: All right, you know what give me tonight's matchup Quippers Nuggets.

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01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 5: James Harden he's his points, assist rebounds. I mean it

1596
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 5: feels artificially low at thirty seven and a half.

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Speaker 3: Is that what bet MGM has it at? Yep? Jared okay,

1598
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 3: so thirty let me give you his last.

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Speaker 5: Five game fifty against Dallas on all three of those

1600
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 5: stats forty two against San Antonio, forty eight against Houston,

1601
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:40,799
Speaker 5: forty four against Sacramento, fifty six against the Golden State Warriors.

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01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 5: That was his last game prior to the postseason. Give

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01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 5: me James Harden going over the thirty seven and a

1604
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 5: half points, rebounds, assists.

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01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 3: I think he sails pass it, okay.

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01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes he got to live life on the edge. I

1607
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 4: think this is a good spot to do it. I'm

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01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 4: gonna go tomorrow. Jah Morant under twenty three and a

1609
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 4: half points, okay for a couple of reasons. So we know,

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01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 4: he rolled his ankle against the Warriors on Tuesday, and

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01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 4: then last night he got an injection in that ankle.

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01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 7: For the game against the Mavericks, he.

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01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 4: Had a put back dunk where his eyeballs were pretty

1614
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 4: much even with the rim, and you're like, how is

1615
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 4: this happening? They got an injection. So think about this.

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01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 4: He played last night, they played the early game tomorrow.

1617
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 4: That's not a whole lot of time for his ankle

1618
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 4: to recover. And his scoring slowed down quite a bit.

1619
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 4: He's off to a great start. Last night, the scoring

1620
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 4: slowed down. Now he's going up against OKC and their defense.

1621
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 4: So I think the under is a smart play. Maybe

1622
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 4: even in game makes more sense. If he gets off

1623
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 4: to another good start, he might start to fade a

1624
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 4: little bit in the scoring department. He took twenty four

1625
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 4: shots last game. That's the worry. He had twenty two

1626
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 4: points on twenty four shots. Begets that kind of volume. Well,

1627
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 4: maybe this is a bad bet, but I think with

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01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 4: his health not being there and going up against Okay

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01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 4: see game one, I'm gonna go under twenty three and

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Speaker 4: a half.

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Speaker 3: Mon I like it.

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Speaker 4: I think you could do crazier things all right, coming

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 4: up next. I wouldn't do it, but this team is

1634
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 4: going to do it. Oh what's going on? Happy Saturday

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Speaker 4: I've been thinking a lot about the number one pick. Okay,

1647
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 4: the Titans have it. What are the odds again, Jared,

1648
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 4: that they take cam Ward minus ten? So we have

1649
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 4: to risk? Yeah, you have to risk ten thousand dollars

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01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 4: to win one hundred dollars. Correct, that's how much of

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Speaker 4: a You.

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01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 7: Got ten grand in the sofa cushions. There be of it.

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Speaker 4: That's where I keep my.

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01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,959
Speaker 7: Ten grand, right, sofa cushions.

1655
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 4: It's the safest place. Nobody looks there, you know. So

1656
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 4: cam Ward is going number one. Here's the thing. You

1657
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 4: gotta find a quarterback. You have to in today's NFL.

1658
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 4: We know this, and typically if you're picking, when a

1659
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 4: top quarterback prospect is on the board, you take them

1660
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 4: and you don't think twice about it. But ask yourself

1661
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 4: these two questions about cam Ward. Okay, be honest with yourself.

1662
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 4: Is it a good idea for a team to trade

1663
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 4: up for cam Ward? What if it's the Browns or

1664
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:44,799
Speaker 4: we need a quarterback?

1665
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 7: We're trading.

1666
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 4: Do you think it's a smart idea to trade up

1667
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 4: and give up a bunch of draft capital to get

1668
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 4: cam Ward?

1669
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 7: I would say no, I don't think it is.

1670
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 4: I think that's telling Ask yourself another question, if another

1671
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 4: team wanted to move up, would it be smart for

1672
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 4: the Titans to trade down? I would say, yes, you

1673
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 4: get all that draft capital. You don't have this like

1674
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 4: top of the line prospect. Some people have cam Ward

1675
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 4: as the seventh quarterback off of the board last season

1676
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 4: if he came out in last year's draft, right, So

1677
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 4: those two questions are revealing cam Ward isn't a fantastic prospect.

1678
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 4: And if I'm drafting number one, ideally I want the

1679
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 4: prospect to be so good that teams want to trade

1680
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 4: up for him. I wouldn't think of trading down like

1681
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 4: this is easily the guy. So I'm not passing on

1682
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter and Abdua Carter for a mediocre quarterback prospect

1683
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 4: in cam Ward. I just don't think this is the

1684
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 4: only spot you can find your quarterback of the now

1685
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 4: in the future. And I think a lot of people

1686
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 4: are acting as if this is the only crack that

1687
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 4: the Titans have at it. I just don't think that's

1688
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 4: the case.

1689
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 3: Well, here here's the problem.

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01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 5: These businesses aren't run by objective outsiders who don't have

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01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 5: their livelihoods riding on decision making, but the people within

1692
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 5: the organizations they do. And so if you're a general

1693
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 5: manager or a head coach, you realize, hey, we may

1694
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 5: only have one crack at taking a first overall draft pick,

1695
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 5: like this could be it. And I'm talking about over

1696
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 5: the course of your entire career. And so when you

1697
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 5: have that sitting in your hand, and you have a

1698
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 5: guy who's got a significant amount of starts under his

1699
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 5: belt at the collegiate level, who has the arm talent

1700
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 5: to throw the ball anywhere on the football field, who, yeah,

1701
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 5: I mean, are there some blemishes on his game? I

1702
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 5: can point to a couple of moments where there's no

1703
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 5: question he held on the ball too long. You know,

1704
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 5: maybe he was a little slow processing the play. Maybe

1705
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 5: he tried to extend to play and didn't get out

1706
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 5: of trouble. You got himself into more trouble. And look,

1707
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 5: you point to plays like specific examples where he didn't

1708
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 5: do the things he was supposed to do. When you're

1709
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,799
Speaker 5: about to invest the first overall draft pick in player

1710
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 5: and potentially changed the fate of your franchise for a

1711
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 5: half decade right or longer if he ends up panning out.

1712
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 5: So everything is going to be thrown into the thought

1713
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 5: process when you're going to draft a guy this high.

1714
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 3: But objectively, I agree with you, Brian.

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01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 5: I think that if there was a player, or should say,

1716
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 5: a team that was interested in trading up to the

1717
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 5: Titan spot, Objectively, yeah, it would make sense to grab

1718
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 5: all that capital and maybe kick the can down the road.

1719
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 5: But if you're Titan's general manager, Titan's head coach, or

1720
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 5: even the owner, you may be thinking to yourself, how

1721
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 5: many more opportunities are we going to have to at

1722
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 5: the top of the NFL draft and the potential at

1723
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 5: that position, regardless of the name attached to that position,

1724
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 5: whether it's cam Ward or one of the prospects available

1725
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 5: last year. Like, sometimes you got to take big swings

1726
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 5: in this in this life. And I think they're going

1727
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 5: to take a big swing, and I think they'll either

1728
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 5: miss or they'll hit based on how they develop this

1729
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 5: talent at the next level. And it's a very human

1730
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 5: decision because you want to be able to take the guy,

1731
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 5: try to develop the guy and see what the outcomes are,

1732
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 5: rather than potentially kick the can down the road, still

1733
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 5: have a crummy season, and then, oh, by the way,

1734
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 5: you're fired in this business, and somebody else is going

1735
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 5: to reap the rewards of your decision to get draft

1736
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 5: capital for the future. So I think it's a very

1737
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 5: human decision to take cam word with the first overall

1738
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 5: draft pick as opposed to, you know, trying to put

1739
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 5: the pick up for sale, because then at least it

1740
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 5: puts all of that potential in your hands to sculpt

1741
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 5: the next talent, as opposed to potentially giving all that

1742
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 5: draft capital over to a new regime somewhere down the road.

1743
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, speaking of getting fired, I mean that's Ran Karthon right,

1744
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 6: former Titans GM fired in the offseason, replaced by Mike Borganzi,

1745
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 6: who comes from the Chief's tree assistant general manager under

1746
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 6: the Chiefs, director of football Ops, director player personnel, who

1747
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 6: have the Chiefs had for the last few years. That

1748
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 6: has made their situation a lot easier to manage. So

1749
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 6: if that's any indicator of what Borganzi wants to do.

1750
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 6: And again, you've got a head coach Brian Callahan who's

1751
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 6: been there for now his second year. Can I just say,

1752
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 6: right off the top, how awesome it is that we

1753
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 6: are about to have the number one pick in the

1754
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 6: draft who started his career at Incarnate Word. That's like

1755
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 6: the mascot of this show is Incarnate Words. So I

1756
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 6: think it's a full circle moment for countdown that we

1757
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 6: get an Incarnate Word player at the top of the draft.

1758
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 6: But now, I think, Brian, to your original point, I

1759
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 6: think it's become so expensive to trade into a spot

1760
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 6: like this because of how valued the quarterback position is.

1761
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 6: I think most gms, like the thing I've noticed when

1762
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 6: I do my rerack of who's running each team every offseason,

1763
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 6: the one thing I notice is outside of like Duke

1764
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 6: Tobin in Cincinnati and Mickey Loomis in New Orleans, these

1765
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:30,839
Speaker 6: gms are young, and they're analytically focused, and they value

1766
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,799
Speaker 6: draft picks, and giving up all of that draft capital

1767
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 6: is really expensive. I think it's more expensive now because

1768
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 6: of how hard it is to keep players healthy and

1769
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 6: to keep your roster stacked with depth. I think the

1770
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 6: draft picks matter more every year as we go into

1771
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 6: this and that's why I think teams you don't see

1772
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 6: a lot of trades in the top five, you know,

1773
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 6: maybe the top ten. Right, We saw one last year

1774
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 6: with the Vikings moving up a spot to take McCarthy. Like,

1775
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 6: I don't think you're gonna see a lot of top

1776
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 6: three draft trades anymore because it's just so darn expensive

1777
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 6: and most of these gms value draft picks.

1778
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 4: I hear you, But we just had an example two

1779
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 4: years ago with Bryce Young and Carolina gave up the

1780
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 4: farm to get that guy. You know, like you're gonna say,

1781
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 4: if you have a prospect that's worth doing it for,

1782
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 4: teams would do it. If this isn't Andrew Luck prospect

1783
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 4: or a Joe Burrow like prospect, teams would be dying

1784
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 4: to trade up to number one. The fact is cam

1785
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 4: Ward isn't that type of prospect exactly like that, That's

1786
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 4: where it comes from. Like again, think about this, some

1787
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 4: people have him as the seventh best prospect at quarterback. Wise,

1788
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 4: if he came out in last year's draft, that means

1789
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy, who was a handoff machine at Michigan in

1790
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 4: the eyes of a lot of talent evaluators, is the

1791
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 4: better prospect. That doesn't mean it's gonna turn out to

1792
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 4: be that way, but that's still telling. I just think this.

1793
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 4: Look the Titans. The nightmare scenario is if they pass

1794
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 4: on cam Ward and he turns out to have the

1795
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 4: goods which he might have, and you passed on that guy,

1796
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 4: and it's like, what were you thinking right there? That

1797
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,839
Speaker 4: is the nightmare scenario. But here's the thing. You shouldn't

1798
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 4: negotiate out of fear. You should evaluate out of honesty.

1799
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 4: That's what you should. Don't think, Oh, it'd be a nightmare,

1800
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 4: and what if this and what if that? Like, be

1801
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 4: honest with yourself. If he's not a top shelf prospect

1802
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 4: and Travis Hunter and Abdua Carter are, why are you

1803
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 4: acting like this is the only crack that you have

1804
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 4: to find your franchise quarterback. Like I'm all for being aggressive,

1805
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 4: but like, if we're at the poker table when we're

1806
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 4: playing Texas, hold him well timed aggression, that doesn't mean

1807
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 4: you're going all in with any hand, Right you get

1808
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 4: two seven off suit, I'm all in. Like, No, you

1809
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 4: have to play premium hands. You have to pick your spots.

1810
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 4: And I also think there's a chance where this could

1811
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 4: be twenty eleven all over again. Rich you talked about this,

1812
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 4: think about the Titan. The Titans drafted Jake Locker and

1813
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 4: passed on JJ Watt, like that could be happening all

1814
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 4: over again. And I just don't think cam Ward is

1815
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 4: the prospect. I think his decision making is shaky far

1816
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 4: too often, and I just don't believe he's going to

1817
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 4: be a top five, top ten quarterback in the NFL.

1818
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 4: And I'm not passing on blue chip prospects to get

1819
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 4: a guy who's probably just gonna be a guy. I'm

1820
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 4: not doing it.

1821
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 5: I don't disrespect your opinion, but you could be completely wrong.

1822
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 5: Cam Ward could end up being All Pro every year

1823
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,799
Speaker 5: from this point moving forward, because we never know until

1824
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 5: we know, as you know, Brian, because we've all seen

1825
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 5: this story play out before names it's course.

1826
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 7: Yeahs no knows. We're gonna do that as a segment

1827
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 7: at some point this summer.

1828
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 3: You absolutely need to this is this.

1829
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 5: This is such a hard conversation to have because I

1830
01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 5: agree completely with what you're say saying outside of like

1831
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 5: my opinion on cam Ward is I think that his

1832
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 5: skills will transfer to the NFL, and if he's well coached,

1833
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 5: I think some of that processing stuff can be cleaned

1834
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 5: up at the next level depending on a lot of things,

1835
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,879
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of variables going to having success

1836
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 5: at the next level. The Titans are a little bit

1837
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 5: in ruins right now, so it's really gonna depend on

1838
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 5: cam Ward's mental toughness and his ability to hammer it

1839
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 5: out for a year or two where it's gonna be

1840
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 5: tough times in Tennessee. But depending on how quickly they

1841
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 5: get this train back on the rails, we could see

1842
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 5: cam Ward have success. But getting away from cam Ward's

1843
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 5: level of success and getting back to what you just

1844
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 5: said about the Titans taking Jake Locker, there is an

1845
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 5: immense amount of pressure when you're in these decision making roles,

1846
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 5: and I think it would take me personally, Like I

1847
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 5: always try to personalize this. If I'm thinking, hey, we

1848
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 5: should go with the right choice as opposed to the

1849
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:08,919
Speaker 5: sexy choice, like it's a sexier choice to get the quarterback. Obviously,

1850
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 5: the right choice may be to trade down. The right

1851
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 5: choice may be to field those phone calls for people

1852
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 5: interested to come up to number one. The right choice

1853
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 5: may be to improve your defensive line with an Abdual Carter,

1854
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 5: or maybe get you know, a running back, or I

1855
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 5: like what you know, I'm just saying I'm throwing things

1856
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 5: at the wall here.

1857
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 3: The point though, is it's not the sexy choice. And

1858
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 3: sometimes depending on.

1859
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 5: Your ownership group that you're working with, depending on the

1860
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 5: fan base and their feelings towards you as a head

1861
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 5: coach or a front office, depending on where you're at

1862
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 5: in your career, sometimes you need to make the sexy

1863
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 5: choice and make it work.

1864
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 3: And that's the reason why.

1865
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 5: Objectively, when you're looking at it, and I'm looking at it,

1866
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 5: it seems so easy sometimes, But when you're in that

1867
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 5: room with an owner who's bearing down on you, going

1868
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 5: we have to fix the quarter position, do you understand me?

1869
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:06,799
Speaker 3: And you go, yes, sir man, you're reading.

1870
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 5: I mean, you don't have to be very smart to

1871
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 5: read between those lines, you know what I mean. So

1872
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 5: sometimes decision making seems like, oh, why did they do that?

1873
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 5: And meanwhile it was because the decision wasn't even in

1874
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 5: their hands. It was because the owner said, we need

1875
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 5: a quarterback, and so you found the best.

1876
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 3: One available at number one.

1877
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 6: Overall, Yeah, I think it's you have to compare it

1878
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 6: to Will Levis, right, like, where does cam Wart stack

1879
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 6: up against Will Levis? And then you look at the

1880
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 6: board and you say, man, if we don't take a

1881
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 6: quarterback here, we're gonna be probably stuck with will Levis again,

1882
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 6: because the odds are saying there's gonna be at least

1883
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 6: three quarterbacks taken in this first round, and if the

1884
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 6: Titans don't take one of them, that means they're going

1885
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 6: to be left with a Tyler Shuck or maybe they

1886
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 6: get lucky they get a Jackson Dart at the top

1887
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 6: of the second round, or a Jalen Milroe. And I

1888
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 6: don't know about you guys, but Jalen Milroe doesn't entice

1889
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 6: me over will Levis.

1890
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 7: Cam Woard does.

1891
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 6: I don't agree with the assessment that cam Wart's behind

1892
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy. I don't agree with that assessment at all.

1893
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 6: I think the upside for cam.

1894
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 7: Ward is very high.

1895
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 6: I agree there's Wartz. He is not the perfect prospect.

1896
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 6: He's not Joe Burrow, he's not Andrew Locke. I don't

1897
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 6: even think he's Caleb Williams. But this is a guy

1898
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 6: that has played a lot of football and he checks

1899
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 6: a lot of boxes physically, and I think the experience

1900
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 6: gives it. Like I know, Washington State's not you know,

1901
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 6: God in terms of the college football landscape.

1902
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 7: Neither is incarnate word, but I think.

1903
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 6: The fact that he was successful in both locations is

1904
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 6: enticing to me. Like he went to a new spot,

1905
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 6: had success, went to another new spot, had success. He's

1906
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,719
Speaker 6: shown ability to absorb playbooks like it really just comes

1907
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 6: down to fit. And if the Titans think he's the

1908
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 6: right guy and there's a need at quarterback, the most

1909
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 6: premium position, it's a slam dump to take this guy. Now,

1910
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 6: that doesn't mean he's gonna turn into Joe Montana, but

1911
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 6: in terms of the way that the draft dynamics have

1912
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 6: been kind of calculated over the last few years, I

1913
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 6: think the Titans will be doing themselves a gift service

1914
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 6: not to address the quarterback position because of who.

1915
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 7: They currently have under center.

1916
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 4: Man, we could talk about this all day, but absolutely

1917
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna disagree with you, Jared. I love him, You're

1918
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 4: acking young man, but I'm gonna disagree with you on

1919
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 4: this one. It's not about cam Ward versus Will Levis.

1920
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 4: You're not playing each other. You're playing the Chiefs and

1921
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 4: the brown and the Bills and all these teams. Like

1922
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 4: it's gonna be whoever your quarterback is you're going up

1923
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 4: against Mahomes and Josh Allen and Burrow and Lamar who's

1924
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 4: a two time MVP just in the AFC. And you

1925
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 4: gotta be honest with yourself. Is cam Ward that guy

1926
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 4: to get us to the Promised Land, to go toe

1927
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 4: to toe with the likes of those guys? And if

1928
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 4: your answer is probably not, no, Will Levis absolutely is

1929
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 4: not that guy. But I don't know why we're acting

1930
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 4: like this draft is their only crack at finding a

1931
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 4: franchise quarterback. They might be in a much better position

1932
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 4: next year. And that's my thing is you shouldn't just

1933
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 4: be thinking of twenty twenty five. You should be thinking

1934
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 4: about twenty thirty five. If you're the Titans. Ideally, that's

1935
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 4: you find the guy that's gonna be there for the

1936
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 4: next decade. And it reminds me of like college basketball

1937
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 4: down the stretch. Remember I remember, Rich, You're talking about

1938
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 4: this like this San Diego State needs this win like

1939
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 4: blood and and and there are a lot of teams

1940
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 4: that needed that. But just because you needed that win

1941
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 4: didn't mean you're gonna get that win, you know what

1942
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like it's the same thing with quarterback.

1943
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 6: But just because you need a quarterback draft in twenty

1944
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 6: thirty five. If he doesn't get this quarterback situation right now,

1945
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 6: that's he's brand new.

1946
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 4: He's brand new, Like, why are you putting all your

1947
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 4: eggs in the cam word basket if you're honest with

1948
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,799
Speaker 4: yourself and don't believe he's gonna be a franchise player,

1949
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 4: If that's your evaluation, you shouldn't be taking him at

1950
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 4: all when you've got Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter right there.

1951
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 5: Well as your opinion, we don't know what his opinion is,

1952
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 5: and I don't agree with you that there may be

1953
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 5: a better prospect on the board, but there may not

1954
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 5: be a better prospect for your job preservation because there

1955
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 5: may be internal pressure on you taking a quarterback, and

1956
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 5: by the way, also sometimes taking a quarterback, and even

1957
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:22,480
Speaker 5: if you don't quite get it right, but the ownership

1958
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 5: believes that it wasn't your fault. He believes that you

1959
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 5: guys did a good job helping this player along, developing

1960
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 5: this player. Oh and in the interim you rebuilt the

1961
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 5: team around that quarterback. Maybe they let you take you

1962
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 5: another dip into the NFL draft. Whereas if you take

1963
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 5: an Abdual Carter and you have a decent edge rush,

1964
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 5: and you miss on a couple other picks, and you

1965
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 5: get some trade value, maybe at with that first overall pick,

1966
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 5: and you trade down in the draft and you make

1967
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 5: some good selections, but the team still stinks. But it

1968
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 5: looks like it's going to be a promising twenty twenty

1969
01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 5: six football season. Maybe maybe all of a sudden, you

1970
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 5: run out of rope with ownership and you don't get

1971
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 5: to see all this through. Like I said, the NFL

1972
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 5: draft is a very human decision that is hard to

1973
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 5: stay objective about.

1974
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 4: Let me let me say one thing real fast. This

1975
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,600
Speaker 4: is how bad organizations remain bad organizations.

1976
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 3: What, Yes, that is true.

1977
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 4: It's it's ownership putting the pressure on the GM like

1978
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 4: clock's ticking. We need a quarterback. Let your GM be

1979
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 4: a GM. Okay, and the GM don't just think of

1980
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 4: yourself and your paycheck. Do what's best for the franchise.

1981
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 4: That is your job. Okay. And we know I'm not

1982
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 4: born yesterday. We know that's not how a lot of

1983
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 4: gms operate. Yeah, but that's the job. And there are

1984
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 4: a lot of people that don't think that way, and

1985
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 4: that's why they that's why these teams just spin in

1986
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 4: their wheels because they're just make it like it's like

1987
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 4: a text hold them again, one card left in the

1988
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 4: deck that can bail you out. How did it get

1989
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 4: this bad? It's like, see, we're not honest with yourself.

1990
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 4: That's how it got that bad.

1991
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 6: Will Levis branded All and Tim Boyle. That's the Titans

1992
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 6: quarterback room right now. I mean you just look at

1993
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 6: that situation and you think that you're you're set at

1994
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 6: that position.

1995
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 7: You're not.

1996
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 4: But that's the thing. It could be a good thing

1997
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,600
Speaker 4: for next year's draft when there's a better prospect on

1998
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,560
Speaker 4: their word thee horrible quarterback.

1999
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 6: Green and this guy is now underheat and you've got

2000
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 6: to hope that arch Manning's the guy. Like I think,

2001
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 6: I think Ward is going to be better than what

2002
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 6: you're expecting. Like you're basically saying Ward is going to

2003
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 6: be a complete bust.

2004
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 4: And I think he's going to be a guy. I

2005
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 4: didn't say bust. I didn't say bust. I said I

2006
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be a guy. I don't think he's

2007
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 4: upper echelon. I don't think he's top five, top ten,

2008
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 4: That's what I said. I don't think he's going up

2009
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 4: against the likes of Burrow and Mahomes. No, I don't

2010
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:44,759
Speaker 4: think he's that guy.

2011
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 7: Not his rookie year.

2012
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,719
Speaker 6: I mean, I really think he's going to be better

2013
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 6: than you're giving him a little cur like.

2014
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 7: I think he is worthy of the number one pick

2015
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 7: this year.

2016
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 3: I do, I.

2017
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 6: Honestly do think he is worthy of the number one

2018
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 6: pick because of how important the quarterback position is. I

2019
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:01,679
Speaker 6: agree he's not the number one prospect on the board.

2020
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 6: He's probably in the five to eight range. But we

2021
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,879
Speaker 6: have seen we saw six quarterbacks taking the top twelve

2022
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 6: last year. Like, this is the NFL. Like like it

2023
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 6: or not, this is what the NFL is. You need

2024
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 6: a quarterback and teams are going to reach. And I

2025
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 6: think cam Ward is not like a reach. But I

2026
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 6: think he's worthy of the first pick, but maybe not

2027
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 6: like generational talent.

2028
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 4: Hey, the Colts reach for Anthony Richardson. That worked out great.

2029
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 4: I can't forget we got rich Ron Berger, they got

2030
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 4: Jared Smith FSR vetting analyst.

2031
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Speaker 3: I'm probably in no. Hey.

2032
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Speaker 3: Huh.

2071
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Speaker 4: Look at this layout over here. It's like Thanksgiving dinner,

2072
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Speaker 4: Christmas dinner, Easter Sunday. We are all anything that you want.

2073
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Speaker 4: You got ham turkeyot. What do you think about the

2074
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Speaker 4: first round?

2075
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 3: Here?

2076
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 4: I'll put it this way, which first round matchup are

2077
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 4: you most looking forward to?

2078
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 3: Rich?

2079
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 4: What's the top of your list over there?

2080
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 5: You know, I the Lakers probably is the series I'm

2081
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 5: most locked into, you know, the sixth seed Minnesota Timberwolves

2082
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 5: taking on the three seed Los Angeles Lakers. I think

2083
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 5: that one probably has my attention. If if we're going

2084
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 5: to focus in on, like what team I think could

2085
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 5: possibly pull off a stunner, like an upset Golden State Warriors.

2086
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:40,759
Speaker 3: I mean that sounds that sounds kind of like kind.

2087
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 5: Of a big reach. That would be a huge swing.

2088
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 5: The Rockets are extremely good, I would say that.

2089
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2090
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a big favorite.

2091
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, it feels it feels like if we're we're

2092
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 5: talking about a low seed taking out a high seed.

2093
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I like ESW Yeah yeah.

2094
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,680
Speaker 6: In terms of the odds, the best series is going

2095
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 6: to be this Nuggets Clippers series.

2096
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:07,839
Speaker 7: Like that's the tightest line.

2097
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 6: So if you want like the intrigue of a team

2098
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 6: that's recently won a title that just fired their head

2099
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 6: coach as a top four seed they heading into the playoffs, like,

2100
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 6: and then you get, oh, by the way, the James

2101
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 6: Harden situation, Like, I know, he's always a fun playoff watch, right,

2102
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,839
Speaker 6: So if you're just talking entertainment value, I think Nuggets

2103
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 6: Clippers is supposed to be a really tight series. I

2104
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,719
Speaker 6: did take some Clippers early on at minus one fifteen.

2105
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 6: It's out to minus one twenty five. Now, I just

2106
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 6: I don't feel very comfortable with the Nuggets situation, and

2107
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 6: I think the fact that you know the Clippers are

2108
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 6: the road team and they're the favorite in the series,

2109
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 6: I think is pretty telling.

2110
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 7: In terms of a macro trend.

2111
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 6: I know this is really boring because nobody likes to

2112
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 6: bet the under, but I was doing some research over

2113
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 6: the week, and the under in games one and two

2114
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 6: of the first round the unders are like sixty percent.

2115
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,800
Speaker 6: They went eleven and five last year, so I think

2116
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 6: that makes sense logically, right, You're basing these numbers off

2117
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 6: of the regular season. A lot of the totals are

2118
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 6: based off of the scoring averages offense defense in the

2119
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 6: regular season. Then all of a sudden you go to

2120
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,600
Speaker 6: the postseason, which, Brian, I know you watch this a

2121
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 6: lot more closely than I do. It is a second seat.

2122
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 6: It is a different vibe in the postseason, and then

2123
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 6: all of a sudden things tighten up. Sometimes it takes

2124
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 6: a couple of games for the totals to really find

2125
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 6: their level, so early on in a series, defense matters.

2126
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 6: In the playoffs period, you get a little bit of

2127
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:37,719
Speaker 6: value to the under.

2128
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 3: Plus.

2129
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, everybody loves to bet the over,

2130
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 6: so that usually gives you some value to the under. Now,

2131
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 6: I don't know if you watch the games last night,

2132
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 6: but if you had the under in that Hawk's heat game, oh,

2133
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:50,719
Speaker 6: you should have won.

2134
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 7: And then you didn't.

2135
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 6: And then the same thing in the Lake game, that

2136
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 6: random three at the buzzer by Dallas push that game

2137
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 6: over the total. So betting the under does have its

2138
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 6: disadvantages because it puts you in an early gravere as

2139
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 6: my mom would say, we said this in the first

2140
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 6: how ur a high conic.

2141
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 7: But I do think there is a little bit of

2142
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 7: value to the under.

2143
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 6: I did bet the under in that Pacers Bucks game

2144
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 6: two twenty four and a half. It's moving against me,

2145
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 6: but I think unders and Clippers would be my early.

2146
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 11: Vibe here, guys, that was so disgusting, gross and anybody

2147
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 11: like that that MAVs Grizzlies game, because even before the

2148
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 11: three pointer at the buzzer, Yeah, the.

2149
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Speaker 4: Late foul, why, there's no reason. No Blippers were just

2150
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 4: running lockout and MAVs player got a little bit too close.

2151
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 4: Next thing you know, Gg Jackson is draining two free

2152
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 4: throws and then the MAVs are canning at three. Oh

2153
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 4: my gosh, I didn't have a cent.

2154
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:48,759
Speaker 3: On the game.

2155
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 4: But that's how disgusting it is. If you're not even

2156
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 4: betting and you say out loud, that's brutal. Oh my gosh,

2157
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 4: I just think. Look looking at the the entire ballowax

2158
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 4: here in the NBA playoffs, okase is going to be

2159
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 4: so difficult to beat. They just are, Like if you

2160
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 4: go back to this, they have the best point differential

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01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 4: in NBA history. They averaged twelve point nine points per game.

2162
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 4: That's what they won by an average. So you think

2163
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:24,679
Speaker 4: about their losses, all of their narrow wins, they still

2164
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 4: won games by an average of thirteen points during the

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01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 4: regular season. That's the best in NBA history. So it

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01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 4: speaks to what they do. They have top line talent

2167
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 4: with SGA, they can score they can hit threes, they

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01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 4: can defend, they do everything. They've got depth. You're not

2169
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 4: winning by that amount if you don't have great depth.

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Speaker 4: So I think they're going to be incredibly difficult to beat.

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01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 4: The West is loaded, but I think okay, see is

2172
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 4: the best chance not just to get out of the West,

2173
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 4: but toWin the whole thing. I think it's gonna be

2174
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 4: an upset if they don't.

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01:47:58,360 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 3: I agree. Yeah.

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01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 5: Getting back to the first team I shout out, or

2177
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 5: I should say the first series I shouted out Wolves Lakers.

2178
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 5: What this series comes down to, in my apparent opinion

2179
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 5: is is the Wolves defense Timberwolves if if they don't

2180
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 5: live up to the billing that they are built the

2181
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 5: right way to defend the Lakers, who are a team

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01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 5: that obviously you know, your frontline defense matches up well against,

2183
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,719
Speaker 5: you defend the three point line well against.

2184
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 3: And since Luca came over to the.

2185
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 5: Squad, they're not as great inside the paint, or I

2186
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 5: should say inside the arc. This is more of a

2187
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:40,599
Speaker 5: perimeter scoring team who can slash and burn a little bit.

2188
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 5: The Minnesota Timberwolves defend the Lakers well. This should be

2189
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 5: a really fun, exciting series to watch. I think it

2190
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 5: could go back and forth. I think we could see

2191
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 5: some of the blemishes that may come back to haunt

2192
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 5: the Lakers if they survived the Minnesota early here and

2193
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 5: may prove detrimental down the stretch. And then, you know,

2194
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 5: obviously the storyline surrounding this Luca is going to carry

2195
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 5: the torch for the Lakers after Lebron is done, depending

2196
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 5: on when they get bounced. You know Lebron James, you know,

2197
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 5: he likes to make the storyline about him. So as

2198
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 5: the postseason rolls on, are we gonna hear retirement talk

2199
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 5: if they get an early bounce here, if they continue on,

2200
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,679
Speaker 5: there's gonna be conversation if the Lakers really do achieve

2201
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 5: what ultimately everybody in that organization hopes that they achieve,

2202
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 5: which is win another NBA championship, Is that enough to

2203
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 5: slat the thirst of the king like it will? Will

2204
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 5: he lay down the sword?

2205
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 3: Then? My guess is no, but there will be that talk.

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01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:45,440
Speaker 5: So as as usual, the Lakers being in the postseason

2207
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 5: makes the NBA better because the storylines are richer, especially

2208
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 5: what happened with that Luca trade, so that that is

2209
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Speaker 5: easily one of the closer in my opinions, but also

2210
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 5: one of the most interesting series we got going on

2211
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 5: in the early rounds.

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01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, really what I'd love to see. I don't know

2213
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 6: how the bracket shapes out, bro, Maybe you can help me.

2214
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 6: Is it would it be Lakers Clippers in the second

2215
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 6: round if both teams have the.

2216
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:10,919
Speaker 4: Look it would be No, it would be the Lakers

2217
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,600
Speaker 4: versus the winner of the Warriors Rockets.

2218
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 6: Lakers Warriors Rockets, I mean Lakers Warriors would be a

2219
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 6: fun series two like I'm trying to think of, like,

2220
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 6: you know, splash value for the for the league. Not

2221
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 6: to say that it's rigged, but I do think there's

2222
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 6: a certain tendency if the calls are tight late, you know, hey,

2223
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:30,799
Speaker 6: we want to get the Lakers into the semis here.

2224
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 4: Rudy Gobert boxing out a little too forcefully on the Yeah.

2225
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 6: I think the best case scenario would be a Lakers

2226
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:48,879
Speaker 6: thunder uh West final for like, ratings wise in the East,

2227
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 6: I don't really think it matters. It's gonna be Boston

2228
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 6: and whoever. And if it's Boston New York, that would

2229
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 6: be fun. Again, the bracket has to shape out the

2230
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 6: way it shapes out, But I think Britain, Boston, New

2231
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 6: York will be the second round, right, because Cleveland's won Yep, yeah,

2232
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 6: I mean that would be a really good second round series.

2233
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 6: I thought we were gonna get that in the Eastern

2234
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 6: Conference Finals last year until Tibbs ran the Nicks into

2235
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 6: the ground and they couldn't get past the Pacers, and

2236
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,599
Speaker 6: then the Pacers ended up getting swept. I think whoever

2237
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 6: faced the Celtics in the East Final last year was

2238
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 6: probably going to get swept or maybe a gentleman's sweep.

2239
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 6: It feels like we're heading in that direction again in

2240
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 6: the East. Like I don't know what, like what scenario

2241
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:29,879
Speaker 6: would play out where the Celtics don't.

2242
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 7: Win the East, Like I can't think of one.

2243
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it would be the Calves most likely. If

2244
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 4: the Calves, no, we really don't, that.

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01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 7: Would be shocked by Cleveland in this first round.

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01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 4: You know what I wonder though, if you look back

2247
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 4: at the Celtics path to a title last season, not

2248
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 4: Murderer's Row, No, right, And it does gives me you

2249
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:57,480
Speaker 4: always say this vibes, Jared, It does give me nuggets

2250
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 4: vibes from a couple of years ago. Not murderers Row.

2251
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 4: On the way to a championship, and I'm not sure

2252
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 4: changing them. Celtics deserve to win it last year, Nuggets

2253
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 4: deserve to win it the year prior. But what it

2254
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 4: means going forward, I think maybe maybe we're sold on

2255
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 4: the Celtics being more legit than they actually are. I

2256
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 4: think they're I think they're a really formidable team. But again,

2257
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:23,600
Speaker 4: a lot of this is built on the credentials of

2258
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 4: winning a title and being defending champs. But if you

2259
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,680
Speaker 4: look a little bit closer with squinty eyes, you know,

2260
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 4: at the path to a title last year not the

2261
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 4: most impressive path ever, and so maybe that lends itself

2262
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 4: to with the bulls eye on their chest being the

2263
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 4: team to take down, maybe that lends itself to their

2264
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 4: They're not repeat champions again, just like the Nuggets. You know,

2265
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 4: it's something to.

2266
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 3: Keep in mind.

2267
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah you got you got the Celtics winning at all.

2268
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 4: It was surprised.

2269
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 3: You do. Okay, all right?

2270
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 5: Boston feels like the pick, you know, going back to

2271
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 5: the calve. I think that they have developed depth and

2272
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 5: that is a structure. First team, I think that Donovan

2273
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 5: Mitchell can't shoulder the load alone, and I think they've

2274
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 5: had some shaky moments from Garland this season. I think

2275
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 5: that Mobley is still a work in progress. There's a

2276
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 5: lot to be said about what they have and the

2277
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 5: future does look bright. Well, I shouldn't say the future necessarily,

2278
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 5: but next season, you know. I mean, there's a lot

2279
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 5: you could say about the way this team is built.

2280
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 3: But we know the NBA postseason it is. That is a.

2281
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 5: Hard road to navigate with a team that's just sort

2282
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 5: of put it all together. They have a dazzling record,

2283
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 5: they have a lot to be proud of in the East.

2284
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 5: But Boston they know how to win, and they know

2285
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 5: how to win at the most important time of the year,

2286
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 5: and here we are.

2287
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't see a scenario where it's not Boston

2288
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 6: in the East. Now, once you get to the finals, Brian, like,

2289
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 6: I think that's where you maybe get an upset.

2290
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:05,879
Speaker 7: But I just like, if it's.

2291
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 6: Boston Thunder, yeah really taking the Thunder in that series?

2292
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, Yes, I am.

2293
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 6: You watch them a lot more than me, so I

2294
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 6: respect your opinion a lot in this matter. I just

2295
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 6: feel like the chalk tends to prevail in these types

2296
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:21,719
Speaker 6: of situations, at least in this league.

2297
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 4: I think the thunder would be favored if it's thunder

2298
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 4: celis really yeah, absolutely, yeah, Well, slight Face would be

2299
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 4: home court, yes they would.

2300
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, well that that that does factor into what

2301
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 6: the numbers would be.

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01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 7: I still think Boston would be the slight favorite.

2303
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 4: Way it's a conference from the All Star Game.

2304
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 7: No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

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01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 4: All right, Jared, do we start with you? And we're

2350
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 4: back to square one. Everybody in rapid fire. After the

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01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 4: football season. We are deadlocked at fifteen and twelve. Everybody

2352
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 4: has the same record, right.

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Speaker 6: I love that You've got a long way to go

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01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 6: into August too, So a lot of picks to make.

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01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 6: you three picks for Thursday nights NFL Draft, the first round.

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01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 6: These are picks five, six, and seven. I think Mason

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01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 6: Graham's gonna be the fifth pick, currently priced minus one

2359
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,839
Speaker 6: fifteen over at bet MGM. Again, tough situation to predict

2360
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 6: with Gladstone the new GM in Jacksonville. But this is

2361
01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 6: a premium position and we know coming from the Rams

2362
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 6: less need love those defensive linemen, think Aaron Donald and

2363
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 6: of course the connection the linebacker coach Kevin Wilkins, coach

2364
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:49,839
Speaker 6: Graham at Michigan last year Ashton genty to the Raiders.

2365
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 6: This is minus one fifteen. You could take Gent to

2366
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 6: be drafted sixth overall, that's minus one thirty five.

2367
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 7: I'd rather take the Raiders connection.

2368
01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 6: If you think about what Pete Carroll and also the

2369
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 6: offense of coordinator Chip Kelly like to do.

2370
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 7: Think about Lashawn McCoy, Marshawn Lynch.

2371
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 6: Those are the types of offenses that these guys have

2372
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 6: had in the past, and I think interesting dynamic with

2373
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 6: spy tech forty four year old GM seventy three year

2374
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 6: old Pete Carroll.

2375
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 7: I think Carroll wins this battle.

2376
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 6: I think they take genty to the Raiders and armand

2377
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 6: Membo to be the seventh pick. This is to the

2378
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 6: Jets minus one ten. Another difficult spot to predict with

2379
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 6: the first year GM, but you get Vashana at one side,

2380
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 6: then you get memboo now on the other side playing

2381
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 6: right tackle, bookend tackles to protect justin fields.

2382
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 7: I think the Jets take Membo with the seventh pick.

2383
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I'm gonna go all NBA. I'm gonna go

2384
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 5: all NBA two day postseason basketball, and I'm gonna go

2385
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 5: all home favorite. Sorry Chris Perfet, but I got the

2386
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 5: Knicks minus seven and a half. Nicks, they've got significant

2387
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 5: postseason experience. They're playing at Madison Square Garden, one of

2388
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:55,280
Speaker 5: the most raucous postseason environments. And the Pacers, or excuse me,

2389
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 5: the Pistons, they're inexperienced in the postseas.

2390
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 3: Moving on to the Nuggets minus two and a half.

2391
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 3: It's just Jokic. It's the Jokid Show.

2392
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 5: He's a triple double machine, difficult to contain.

2393
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 3: For the Clippers.

2394
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 5: Lakers minus four and a half against the Pacers, it's

2395
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 5: the dynamic duo. It's Lebron, it's Luca, It's the script

2396
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:19,200
Speaker 5: the NBA wants to propel through the postseason. I think

2397
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 5: that LBJ and Luka end up taking the win tonight.

2398
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:26,839
Speaker 5: Minus four and a half on the Lakers.

2399
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 4: I right to go fast because I have no choice.

2400
01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 4: I'll go with the Pacers in the first quarter minus

2401
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 4: one and a half against the Bucks. The Pacers starting

2402
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 4: lineup sneakly, very very good. They've got a net rating

2403
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 4: of plus eleven point one. That's good. Karl Anthony Town's

2404
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 4: over one and a half threes makes too much sense.

2405
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 4: Jalen Duran doesn't go out there and guard the perimeter

2406
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 4: and give me the Clippers to win their first round

2407
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:54,880
Speaker 4: series against the Nuggets.

2408
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 7: Jamal Murray's hamstrings are iffy.