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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, George Norri with you. Rick McCallum, back with us,

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Speaker 1: founder of the Hollywood Ghost Hunters, author of award winning

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Speaker 1: books Ghosts Believe In Me and the Spirits Are Out There,

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Speaker 1: which just came out, by the way. It's a great book.

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Speaker 1: And we are both available to you right now. Rick

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Speaker 1: has been seen on Ghost Adventures, Home and Family and

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Speaker 1: has done many livestream paranormal investigations on the Dark Zone

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Speaker 1: in Spirit realm. Rick has worked in the stunt business

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Speaker 1: for more than forty years, has over seventy five movie

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Speaker 1: and TV credits, spends as much summer investigating the haunted

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Speaker 1: castles of Scotland, Ireland and England. And here he is

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Speaker 1: back on Coast to Coast mister McCallum. Always a pleasure. Oh,

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Speaker 1: same here, George is always great to be on your show.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing. I am doing fantastic. I mean

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Speaker 1: I've been traveling the world, you know, getting away from

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Speaker 1: COVID and all that stuff and actually really having a

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Speaker 1: life again. Excellent. When did you start the Hollywood Ghost Hunters? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I think it was probably about twelve years ago. And

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Speaker 1: with you, of course is Kane Hotter, who played the

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Speaker 1: Jason and Holly in the Friday Thirteenth series and was

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Speaker 1: Robert England with you two, No, not Robert England. The

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Speaker 1: other main character with us as are Mahiloff who played

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Speaker 1: Leatherface and Jane saw Massacre three. That's right. And do

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Speaker 1: you three still get together? Not as often as we

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Speaker 1: used to, because when we got started we all lived

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Speaker 1: within about twenty five miles of us of each other,

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Speaker 1: and you know, all three of us live in different

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Speaker 1: states now, so it's kind of hard to pair up.

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Speaker 1: But we are still looking for a great place to

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Speaker 1: go and we will pair up again for sure. Well

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Speaker 1: let's talk about your work now. You just came back

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Speaker 1: from Scotland, didn't you. Yeah, I've only been back about

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Speaker 1: maybe a month and a half. I was doing a

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Speaker 1: tour over there and and it was all ghost hunting

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Speaker 1: and castles and things, you know, right right in my

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Speaker 1: Rick Those areas are much older than here in the

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Speaker 1: United States. Does that mean anything in terms of ghost investigations? Well,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you the difference between the United States

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Speaker 1: and Scotland especially, is the intensity and the frequency of

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Speaker 1: the hunts. It seems like no matter where you go,

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Speaker 1: the place is haunted. In Scotland, it meaning because it's

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Speaker 1: had such, honestly, you know, a very bloody history throughout

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Speaker 1: the entire country. So it's it's hard not to find

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Speaker 1: a place it's ghost hunting, and the reactions you get

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Speaker 1: in the United States. Well it must be, it's it's

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Speaker 1: incredible and the castle's how how about the age of

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Speaker 1: the facility, Does that have anything to do with the

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Speaker 1: ghost hunt? Well, I think the history of what was

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Speaker 1: happening when it was built has a lot to do

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Speaker 1: with it. Like Algonie Castle, which is my favorite castle,

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Speaker 1: the Ghost Hut was from the fifteen hundreds, so I mean,

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Speaker 1: whatever was going on in the fifteen hundreds would naturally

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Speaker 1: So you know, that's that's why I think they have

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Speaker 1: more intensity. They've been around a lot longer than us, right,

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Speaker 1: too many people who have never been in a castle,

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Speaker 1: they've only seen pictures of it or seen it in

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Speaker 1: one of these old places. Well, it depends if it's

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Speaker 1: a you know, an abandoned wonder if it's one that's

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Speaker 1: The laird you know, he lived in and there. He

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Speaker 1: It's it's exactly what you would think. It's all stone,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. I really think the wholes of

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Speaker 1: intelligent answers to questions and things like that. So yeah, Rick,

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