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Speaker 1: game between the Cowboys and Tampa Bay Buccaneers down there
Speaker 1: in Florida, dot I just left the locker room. Tell
Speaker 1: us about it. What's the vibe, what's the value? They
Speaker 1: get it? Okay, they get it. Here's what they think
Speaker 1: about I like that. Here's what they think about you.
Speaker 1: I like that they know what's something, they know, they
Speaker 1: know they know what I saw. And then I was
Speaker 1: walking back here, I saw shout at the coach, Coach
Speaker 1: McCarthy and and Rob Davis, and saw your man Jaylen Tilbert.
Speaker 1: He was in his crucial catch gear. He get all
Speaker 1: the friend you know he's gonna get that before hit
Speaker 1: the market. He got it, so I saw him. I
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance talk to him that to get
Speaker 1: over here real quick to start showing time. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk to ye like you was gonna. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what we's gonna stop and talking to. I mean I
Speaker 1: was late, guys because I had to talk to that
Speaker 1: would happen, we know, talk to Tyler Bardi, talked to
Speaker 1: um uh saw the gallup talk to JK in there.
Speaker 1: They just presented uh uh jen Rod Curse with the
Speaker 1: Good Guy Award for the Media to the media. You know,
Speaker 1: the guy who will go you know, just just easy
Speaker 1: to talk to all ways around. I mean, he's a
Speaker 1: fantastic soundbody. There's there's a guy who I don't know
Speaker 1: if he has any media aspirations, but he definitely could
Speaker 1: do this. Um you know, CJ was in there. How's
Speaker 1: feeling because that's the means that's huge And that's what
Speaker 1: I said, I said, young man, how you feel. He
Speaker 1: says I'm good. I'm good to go as good to go.
Speaker 1: So he says he's good and clearly that's what you need.
Speaker 1: Ezekie Elliott's also talked to him. Zekiel was asked about,
Speaker 1: you know, missing Tyler, and Zeke went the route of, hey,
Speaker 1: Connor's a good player too, but you know, Tyler's a
Speaker 1: good you know, Tyler's good and we like him, but
Speaker 1: he was trying to protect Connor mcgovernor center. But clearly,
Speaker 1: when you think about offensive line, having beyotish gun defensive
Speaker 1: in where you've had, you had Hankins, you had Vanderash,
Speaker 1: you've missed some guys and people are looking at this
Speaker 1: team based off, you know, not in my opinion counting that.
Speaker 1: Hey man, some of these injuries have piled up here
Speaker 1: on the way. I'm I don't know about you, guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm shocked at the amount of national people who
Speaker 1: are beating up the Cowboys without talking about there's no
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. And that's how Anthony Brown crutch just going by.
Speaker 1: You don't have a joy. That stuff that matters, guys,
Speaker 1: that's might. That stuff matters. And as you were losing
Speaker 1: people here these this last month, they have not looked good,
Speaker 1: but they have a sense of we understand what we
Speaker 1: need to do going into the playoffs and facing Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Danny, how dare you so you feel to
Speaker 1: say the injuries. The people in the national media now
Speaker 1: today are basing everything that they are talking about, for
Speaker 1: the most part, one on the last five six weeks
Speaker 1: of the season, but mainly on twenty six to six.
Speaker 1: I don't care who you're missing. I don't care if
Speaker 1: Hank is missing, Vandura's mission be honest is missing. That's
Speaker 1: not the type of performers that you are to go
Speaker 1: and put up for your last season, your last game
Speaker 1: of the season, and when when first round buyas up
Speaker 1: for grabs, Curran and the NFC East is up for grabs.
Speaker 1: So yes, I do understand that we're missing some guys.
Speaker 1: If you still find a way to pull out and
Speaker 1: win those games without those guys, okay, But if you
Speaker 1: go out there and get beat by twenty by the
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders who are sitting some players as well, and
Speaker 1: has a have a third three quarterback in there by
Speaker 1: the name of Howell Sam House in North Carolina. So
Speaker 1: I'm saying so so some of it to me is warranted.
Speaker 1: Of like, hey man, even if even if you're struggling
Speaker 1: like that of keeping your players healthy, let the game
Speaker 1: be close, you lose by field goal, We're still gonna
Speaker 1: be like that. They shouldn't have happened. But you go
Speaker 1: out there and you put that type of effort forward
Speaker 1: and then say all right, man, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you can't say. I don't know why they're messing with
Speaker 1: us now, because yeah, you went out there the last time,
Speaker 1: last thing we see saw of you, was it three
Speaker 1: twenty five when that game kicked off? You like you
Speaker 1: was still on the bush. You gave ammunition. Yeah, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm not not debating you. I'm not yo.
Speaker 1: You gave the ammunition to to to to get criticized.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Heck, do you feel like the
Speaker 1: more the team gets criticized, the more they'll come out
Speaker 1: and play better? Because I know this. Whenever we sit
Speaker 1: around here and think there's a way got it done,
Speaker 1: made your tunny telling jokes? Is this who we came
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota game. We were all worried. I mean
Speaker 1: THEO game when I never played a great game gainst Minnesota.
Speaker 1: So so how do you see it? I see it
Speaker 1: is you're gonna have haters regardless if you are a
Speaker 1: Dallas cowboy, if you're a Cowboy fan, whatever, you just
Speaker 1: should expect to hate you don't. You shouldn't expect anyone
Speaker 1: to find anything good about your franchise to tell you
Speaker 1: every Monday morning, hey guys, you have a chance to win.
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna tell you that. They get raidings like.
Speaker 1: I love what you said once. Man, you said, I
Speaker 1: know how the sausage is made. I'm taking that. I
Speaker 1: took that and I made that mind because that's what
Speaker 1: they do. They make the sausage every day based off
Speaker 1: of the fact that you suck, your coach suck, your
Speaker 1: quarterbacks suck. And guess what, y'all scary, and y'all gonna
Speaker 1: do cowboy things and y'all be back in the house,
Speaker 1: be back at home round one, because that's what cowboys do.
Speaker 1: So why even tune into that? Why even to it?
Speaker 1: It's the most abusive relationship every day. It's like calling
Speaker 1: in to somebody that's abusive and saying, you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: find nobody like me. You're fat, you're ugly, you're knock needed,
Speaker 1: you're pigeon told. They're not gonna tell us that good
Speaker 1: about ourselves. Man, I'm telling you, they're not gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: Knew that you have an opportunity and they're gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: in every statistical category that matters in the Super Bowl era,
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity based off of Super Bowl winners
Speaker 1: that that came before you. Just saying that's not fair.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not even on the other side of
Speaker 1: the media. That ain't fair. Bro. After we beat Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: everybody was on the on the Cowboys wagon when Cooper
Speaker 1: Russell was in there because we didn't have a chance,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying he won those games. They said, when
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott gets back, this team is a top five team.
Speaker 1: Right after you beat Minnesota, What did they say about
Speaker 1: the Cowboy They had to be hush man. They had
Speaker 1: to shut up where they speaking. Had to do Were
Speaker 1: they speaking positively about the Cowboys from when we beat Cincinnati?
Speaker 1: Who the media until when you went to when you
Speaker 1: were Minnesota and we didn't go on then they didn't
Speaker 1: go on the rankings like the different rankings here and
Speaker 1: they were in the Times, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I'm
Speaker 1: talking you're talking about ESPN. I think you're talking about
Speaker 1: it what wusch media were talking about. Just call somebody
Speaker 1: nas nationally. I think he's talking about when you turn
Speaker 1: on the TV. You people are usually when we played bad,
Speaker 1: beating up on us. What I'm saying, it's not fair
Speaker 1: to say that every time, no matter what happens, they
Speaker 1: beat up on us. Because I remember at one time
Speaker 1: they were saying, the Cowboys are the best team in
Speaker 1: the NFL and they poised to women. You know better
Speaker 1: than that, daddy, you know better than that day? What
Speaker 1: did you talk? Bro? You people no better than what
Speaker 1: you're saying. For six weeks, Bro, when Cooper Russell was
Speaker 1: in there and they were figuring out the way to
Speaker 1: win those games, they were saying, when Dak Prescott comes back,
Speaker 1: this team is poised to make a Super Bowl run.
Speaker 1: Did you not hear that? When you turn the twa well,
Speaker 1: they're not talking about the Dallas Cowboys. Heard the favorite
Speaker 1: a favorite to win the Super Bowl yesterday? Huh Ok,
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it. I'm just I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna I'm just saying when it's really good, when like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do good, it's exaggerated they're the best. And
Speaker 1: when we do bad, yeah it's exaggerated we're the worst.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's across the board, Like, no
Speaker 1: matter what happens, you know, what I'm saying, just going
Speaker 1: into that Cincinnati game, nobody gave us a snowball chance
Speaker 1: shot in hell of winning that game versus Cincinnati. We
Speaker 1: pulled it out. Hey, if boy came down to the wire,
Speaker 1: it was close. We needed am her last minute kick
Speaker 1: to get it done. They'll show up again against New York.
Speaker 1: They'll get it. Hey, they'll get infential Giants. You go
Speaker 1: when you Peter roll the Giants, all right, you come
Speaker 1: right back, then you roll the Commanders, God dogged. They're
Speaker 1: going to La versus the Rams. Now they finna get it.
Speaker 1: This where to act, man, This where the fluffing to
Speaker 1: fall out. Get what? You go into La and you
Speaker 1: beat the bracing undercarriage. And what the only thing that
Speaker 1: happened is this team shut the critics up because after
Speaker 1: the first game, even knew he was saying that it
Speaker 1: was time for the draft show. So don't act like
Speaker 1: the quarterback at hurt. No, no, no, no, no no. You
Speaker 1: know you gave up one hundred and fifty two yards rest,
Speaker 1: So what you're talking about any He just made a
Speaker 1: point saying that that that that that's not fair to
Speaker 1: No I'm saying, I'm saying, when when we played bad
Speaker 1: and when we lose, yes, it is blown up, right,
Speaker 1: it's blown up. But when they win and they go
Speaker 1: on runs, people are not just sitting there saying all
Speaker 1: that they sucked. They know people were picking them to
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl or go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Is that not true? I came here after they used
Speaker 1: to show after No, no, that's not wait wait wait
Speaker 1: you using me right now? Hey man, what if you
Speaker 1: listen to me? What games did I name? Did I
Speaker 1: say after Cincinnati all the way up until Minnesota? After
Speaker 1: you beat Minnesota AFC Invitational, Yeah, we all say, hey man, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not sure. And that's and that's when people started
Speaker 1: being like, I'm not really served this team in the
Speaker 1: wins it because that started on the interception every game
Speaker 1: and you're defense started getting ran on it. You're playing
Speaker 1: against backups to some extent, and you still want performing well.
Speaker 1: But in the middle of the season, when that run
Speaker 1: was getting made, hey man, everybody was a super Bowl Cowboys. Man,
Speaker 1: they the best. Can't wait till that dack back four
Speaker 1: to the three. Man look at that defense man leading
Speaker 1: the league, say leader Leason. Everybody was saying that. No,
Speaker 1: they were saying we were in the NFC North Invitational.
Speaker 1: Then that's when we were beating up. No, we were
Speaker 1: beating up on the Lions and the Bears, and it
Speaker 1: didn't matter. You know, remember that after Minnesota bro Minnesota
Speaker 1: Wasberota had a better Trying to refresh your memory to
Speaker 1: take you back heard remember fair. I remember watching the TV.
Speaker 1: I turn it on too. I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: they talk about super Bowl. Man, I might go buy
Speaker 1: my buy my ticket. My bad, I mean, may go
Speaker 1: get me a ticket. You ready to get some of this? Better?
Speaker 1: Come on, let's go, man, I'm saying. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: keep it real. No, act like you ain't turned on
Speaker 1: the TV before. And they were talking about the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: the top five team in the league, power rankers and
Speaker 1: all this other stuff. And they were talking about they
Speaker 1: might be going to the super Bowl because of the
Speaker 1: way this team was playing. I heard that. I heard
Speaker 1: that for weeks on end. I heard it. I heard it,
Speaker 1: but now I do here And when you got there
Speaker 1: play against Washington like that, I mean, sh is valid?
Speaker 1: Twenty one is what stick you getting off the sticks?
Speaker 1: Then got passed one point away again stick by by Howell,
Speaker 1: rookie quarter saying team beat your boys though, talking who
Speaker 1: my boys? You know your boys? I like, I like
Speaker 1: Jamon and Texas saying they beat your boy with your
Speaker 1: boy so cool? I mean, who got about your trap?
Speaker 1: Who got about week? Who am about this week? Philly? Okay?
Speaker 1: The chicken, the tasty cakes, the tasty cakes. That's why
Speaker 1: he man, Philly, tasty playoff week, Man's playoff man, It's
Speaker 1: playoff week and one in one season. This man, they
Speaker 1: had a tasty cake and about to take all of
Speaker 1: us out to eat man just off the Eagles. Some
Speaker 1: good gotta happen. I would hate him too. Something good guy,
Speaker 1: I mean something good man. Hey man, hey man, and listen,
Speaker 1: you were not about to be a young young team,
Speaker 1: young buck the mo bro. You want to sit on
Speaker 1: the fence now, I just want to sit there and stir.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's true. I'm stirring as
Speaker 1: I did. I said they Church? What what games were
Speaker 1: we talking about? What I say? Did you hear you? Okay?
Speaker 1: Now you need your boy to tap. I'm like school
Speaker 1: now I'm saying again not not now. You know right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna see, We're gonna see who right, who wrong? Man,
Speaker 1: We're gonna see. I'm gonna go picking a day. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. You ain't picking the cow on. I
Speaker 1: gotta study some open you want to lay down? Happened,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not gonna stop. We're picking today. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead, now, we ain't gonna pick. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: you know, ain't gonna be the We can do it.
Speaker 1: I'm ready. We could. We were gonna wait a little bit.
Speaker 1: He are you make your pixarl ready though? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he made this Pixar make him in the paper. What
Speaker 1: you said? What you got Dallas to win in cover? Yeah?
Speaker 1: In Temple? Yes? Interesting. I'm basing this on please, because
Speaker 1: let's get into why they're getting beat up right now
Speaker 1: and rightfully so after Washington for sure, Um, you're getting
Speaker 1: some people healthy. I think the more we dog these
Speaker 1: guys like this, I think they get gaut spot when
Speaker 1: you doubt them. That's why I think they come out
Speaker 1: and get it done. And Tampa has a problem scoring.
Speaker 1: I think they've got maybe once. I can't remember the
Speaker 1: numbers because it's Rick Goslin gave me, gave me the
Speaker 1: number of touchdowns. They just don't score a lot um.
Speaker 1: I just feel like they go get this done this weekend.
Speaker 1: That's it. Just do you think that defensive line revampson,
Speaker 1: because that's gonna be the key in my opinion, got
Speaker 1: stop the run. You gotta stop the run. You have
Speaker 1: to stop the run, and you gotta make him get
Speaker 1: the ball out quickly. Um and and big to me,
Speaker 1: special teams is gonna play play a big part in
Speaker 1: this thing here. They're gonna need to be very positive
Speaker 1: in that aspect um. Turpin needs to be the all
Speaker 1: pro guide that the NFL PA says that they need.
Speaker 1: They need to win. They must win that phase. You
Speaker 1: must win that phase, and and four cannot be the
Speaker 1: reason you get beat. I was hoping he talked today,
Speaker 1: so I got out here. That's why I came out
Speaker 1: the locker rooms like I wanted here from Dak But
Speaker 1: they're like nice Wednesday. It's it's it's technically Wednesday, but
Speaker 1: even though it's Thursday, So he'll talk tomorrow on a Friday,
Speaker 1: because Friday is going to be Thursday since they play
Speaker 1: on Monday. I don't know how you guys live in
Speaker 1: that NFL world of all these different days that are
Speaker 1: not the day of the week it is. But anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: That's why I went with the Cowboys to win. This
Speaker 1: just just he can't even come with Helpi. That'sible. Can
Speaker 1: you go get it? You care? I said, Man, we
Speaker 1: were dogged so much. They feel that you're gonna get whatever.
Speaker 1: I say. It's good Jacksonville. You know the AFC South
Speaker 1: if it, I mean, dude, I'm brong. So now everybody's
Speaker 1: dumping on them. They're hearing it. U just coming out
Speaker 1: the locker room. I feel like they'll come out here
Speaker 1: and they'll go get this thing done. Church. You pick that.
Speaker 1: I should have wanted you had a gut. I wasn't
Speaker 1: on this show because I didn't want to hear you
Speaker 1: while I wasn't here. I wanted I got the whole day.
Speaker 1: You didn't do it. When it comes down to it,
Speaker 1: this game simply comes down offensively for this team, Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They got to protect the football. I mean, like you said,
Speaker 1: the four cannot turn the ball over, and we gotta
Speaker 1: find out can can Kellen Moore get CD the ball
Speaker 1: because he's those past couple of weeks, he's been doing
Speaker 1: an amazing job of moving that guy around the formation
Speaker 1: slot he's on the outside, he's going in motion so
Speaker 1: defenses can't pick up on him. If he can have
Speaker 1: a huge day against a secondary that's not too amazing
Speaker 1: for Tampa. The secondary is not the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: I think they got a shot. I mean, we're looking
Speaker 1: at Tampa Bay's run defense, their rank, I think sixteenth
Speaker 1: in the leade. They get up one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: yards on the ground, y'all not telling me? You know,
Speaker 1: Zeke and Pola they can get that job done. I mean,
Speaker 1: they can get this thing going in the right direction.
Speaker 1: And my picnic car I was, I don't know I
Speaker 1: quite yet, but they got a chance out there. There's
Speaker 1: some positives that go along with this. As long as
Speaker 1: they protect the football. Let's take a break. Come back.
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Speaker 1: right well, yo, twenty six twenty one Cowboys win. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna go. Do it right here. That
Speaker 1: these guys are here in the negativity. They remember last
Speaker 1: year's embarrassing loss to San Francisco where a man gonna
Speaker 1: come out with a boombox and your old stadium first drive,
Speaker 1: make you go throe and three and our Then they
Speaker 1: get the ball to go right now and you throw.
Speaker 1: I mean you need to punch you right in the
Speaker 1: mouth and you get beat. I was asking some guys,
Speaker 1: there is that still there and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we remember it and you want to erase it. You're
Speaker 1: not necessarily thinking about it, but you remember it. I
Speaker 1: just think there's a lot there that these guys have
Speaker 1: an understanding about. And I asked jay Ronn Kurtse about
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy in the job. So I got food this morning.
Speaker 1: I turned on my TV because I was watching the
Speaker 1: Texas TC basketball game last night, and so now you
Speaker 1: just whatever you turn on last night, so get up.
Speaker 1: Was there and they go going in on on on
Speaker 1: McCarthy and Dak and everything like a food. I sat
Speaker 1: there and meet a dogs out there and watch it like, man,
Speaker 1: I got won twelve games. You act like that's something
Speaker 1: back to back here like that happens around here a
Speaker 1: whole lot. It doesn't um, And I asked, I asked
Speaker 1: Kurson back. He's like, hey, man, we love we love
Speaker 1: coach Mike, and he said, we hear this stuff, but
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not paying attention to it. We
Speaker 1: like our coach. And you guys know you've been in
Speaker 1: that locker room, and you know you guys to this day,
Speaker 1: if I bring up you bring up your boy, you guys,
Speaker 1: are you guys are ready. You guys? Are you guys?
Speaker 1: Are you're ready to defend? You defend? You gotta take
Speaker 1: this into account. But these are guys, as you know,
Speaker 1: y'all know, we spent a lot of time around these guys.
Speaker 1: The coach and the player spends more time around each other.
Speaker 1: Probably they you do with your family while you're playing
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You go to training camp, you gotta
Speaker 1: nine to five, You go travel like you you're here
Speaker 1: meeting at seven thirty, first meetings at seven thirty. You
Speaker 1: get out of that four thirty, and then you might
Speaker 1: go watch some more film, thinking about your coaching. What
Speaker 1: he's gonna say to you, He's gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Then you go through the whole weekend. Then you travel,
Speaker 1: you're on a plane with him, you play the game,
Speaker 1: you come back and travel again, You sleep for a
Speaker 1: few hours, and you get back up and do the
Speaker 1: same thing again for the entire time. So you spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time with these guys. So hopefully, if
Speaker 1: he's doing his job the correct the way, you do
Speaker 1: have some type of respect and love for the guy.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't understand what people say. Man. I
Speaker 1: can't stand my coach I'm like that, dude, must build. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta be bad. You ain't standing when the whole
Speaker 1: locker room don't like us. It's yeah, you ain't the guy.
Speaker 1: So there you go. That's mine. That's why twenty six
Speaker 1: twenty one Cowboys. I get you. I'll be there at
Speaker 1: the game. Look, McCarthy's done. I think he's done a
Speaker 1: great job so far in his time here in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I think he's truly kind of turned this culture and
Speaker 1: his team and into a winning environment. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: lose your QB one, you lose your Hall of Fame tagol,
Speaker 1: you still get these players up and get them going
Speaker 1: to the best of their ability. So I gotta give
Speaker 1: him kudos to that. But in the same sense, as
Speaker 1: great as these accomplishments are, you know, twelve back to
Speaker 1: back win seasons, Dan, you know how hard it is
Speaker 1: to win games in the National Football League. That's all
Speaker 1: well and good, but I'm sorry, until those wins translate
Speaker 1: to postseason success, I mean, twelve back toway. As good
Speaker 1: as that accomplishment is, it's gonna fall on deaf ears.
Speaker 1: I mean, unless he starts transitioning those wins at the
Speaker 1: playoff wins it's just gonna fall on deaf ears. So
Speaker 1: my question anywhere around the room, if he's not the guy,
Speaker 1: where are you going? And where do you go and
Speaker 1: find people who can go out here and win twelve
Speaker 1: twelve games to back to back. See Jervan hiring and
Speaker 1: firing folks for a minute, that's true. What have we seen?
Speaker 1: And for the Sean Payton crowd, I hear you, Sean
Speaker 1: Payton crowd. But when you break down Sean's record, any
Speaker 1: breakdown Mike's records, head coaches, they basically tain't do on
Speaker 1: Super Bowl piece And will a head coach really make
Speaker 1: the difference or do we start to say maybe it's
Speaker 1: the whole way this thing's run. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: can we talk about how bad that receiving corps was
Speaker 1: in Mike McCarthy area around here today? Game him to
Speaker 1: start to see it. It was pretty bad. You're about
Speaker 1: to hope him. He's talk about to hope him. Dennis
Speaker 1: Houston started against the Buccaneers man Dennis Houston this year
Speaker 1: that they gave to kind of sent to themselves though, right,
Speaker 1: But that's not the head coach though, this is who
Speaker 1: you remember the press conference now, Jerry Jerry was on Cooper.
Speaker 1: Jerry betson the way he talked about Cooper and Collins.
Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, he basically just poured
Speaker 1: salt on e dude. So Mike McCarthy didn't have anything
Speaker 1: to do with James Washington coming here. Man, you don't
Speaker 1: think they was like, hey man, you think what can
Speaker 1: you do with this guy? And he didn't say I
Speaker 1: think I could make this guy player? Or using a
Speaker 1: top one hundred pick on a guy that hasn't cracked
Speaker 1: the lineup? Yes, no, no, this's that's a good question
Speaker 1: because here's why I don't necessarily put it on him,
Speaker 1: because I go back to when Jason Garrett was here
Speaker 1: and they had son Jay Lasle as a receiver coach,
Speaker 1: and they brought in that one dude from Buffalo. I
Speaker 1: can't remember his name, he was so average. And then
Speaker 1: there was Alan Hearns. I mean, they've been known around
Speaker 1: here to try to shop at Dollar General trying to
Speaker 1: pass off a receiver like he gonna be okay for you,
Speaker 1: James Washington. I mean, Steven was like, you know Washington,
Speaker 1: you know, like Steven he couldn't even spit out the words.
Speaker 1: He was just trying to cover it. But they did
Speaker 1: this to themselves. But I mean as a coach, you know,
Speaker 1: and they're guarding the cat because remember we got cat money,
Speaker 1: so this is what they game. And he tried to
Speaker 1: work with it. And then Joe Gallup's coming back. And
Speaker 1: you know that didn't translate as quickly as they initially
Speaker 1: told us. Jayalen Tolber didn't come to play that we
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be. I mean sold along the way.
Speaker 1: It's the head coach. You gotta go out here with
Speaker 1: this stuff. And it took Cee Lamb a minute older
Speaker 1: got to come out on a radio. We gotta be
Speaker 1: number one. That's stuff we don't We don't talk about
Speaker 1: it enough in terms of you had to coach it,
Speaker 1: go through it, figure out out. They get twelve wins.
Speaker 1: It's not easy, man, And I get people that cowboy frustrated.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not good enough. You're gonna make not
Speaker 1: McCarthy die for everybody else's sins. But but heck, non,
Speaker 1: this doesn't happen around here a lot. Well, you think
Speaker 1: about what he overcame though, and that's why I echo
Speaker 1: what you just said. I thought there was that was
Speaker 1: dead on nothing is going to satisfy anybody until he
Speaker 1: actually wins in the postseason. You can talk all you
Speaker 1: want to about that getting injured, starting a rookie left
Speaker 1: tackle who you played primarily at guard through through summer
Speaker 1: camp and all that, and you know, obviously losing Terren,
Speaker 1: still having to go all of the adversity that he's
Speaker 1: faced as a as a coach, and having to maneuver
Speaker 1: through this season to end up as a twelve and
Speaker 1: five season. At a twelve and five season, I liken
Speaker 1: it to the COVID year, you know, with all of
Speaker 1: the things that I mean, they went six and ten
Speaker 1: in this first season, but then you think of the
Speaker 1: adversity that he had faced this year. I mean, come on, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot to try and overcome. And oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, he finished twelve and five. The only
Speaker 1: thing that would have been better, better is winning the
Speaker 1: NFC East. That's maybe you know he didn't last year,
Speaker 1: but even still last year, that didn't save people from
Speaker 1: starting this year off by saying, hey, let's get Sean
Speaker 1: Payton in here. So he should expect that, you know,
Speaker 1: he should expect that, and ever since he had you know,
Speaker 1: nachos and beard Jerry's house. I mean, Jared Tolin. You
Speaker 1: may not know, you might not want this, but because
Speaker 1: it comes with the terror the territory, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who they bring in after him. If he doesn't win
Speaker 1: in the postseason, those question marks are gonna remain. Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy has his destiny in his hands. With this team
Speaker 1: winning the postseason, all of those things don't necessarily go away.
Speaker 1: But nobody's talking about your job for the season, and
Speaker 1: that's that is why he was brought here over Jason Garrett. Okay,
Speaker 1: you go and win some postseason games, and that's what
Speaker 1: they want from him, and I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1: But when people talk about trying to fire a guy,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, well who do you go hire?
Speaker 1: It can go, It can go south a lot quicker
Speaker 1: than you think. Look at Denver, they were all done
Speaker 1: with Big Tangio, ain't tired of him. They all just
Speaker 1: just all defense. They'll score that. Okay, what you got now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: no draft picks five coach that think's a mess in Denver,
Speaker 1: so game A B plus. I'm not I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to fire, but we do all understand it. If you
Speaker 1: go out there and you lay an egg. That conversation,
Speaker 1: that conversation it will be had just based off of
Speaker 1: the conversation that I know Monday mun quarterback last year
Speaker 1: jury and everybody was upset after you go out there
Speaker 1: and you have that performance against Francisco. But the words
Speaker 1: were said, The intention is there of like, hey man,
Speaker 1: we need to like I believe that this team is
Speaker 1: built to win a game in the playoffs and that's
Speaker 1: a minimum to go to the NFC Championship and possibly
Speaker 1: compete for that when to get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That is the expectation around here. Twelve and five is great.
Speaker 1: It's always gonna be great. I'm not trying to fire
Speaker 1: God for being twelve and five, But you can't end
Speaker 1: it off with the skid that you just had when
Speaker 1: you go because that's what people gonna remember, twenty six
Speaker 1: or six next game? What did you do the next game?
Speaker 1: So did you fall off at the end of the season,
Speaker 1: or did you find a way to have your team
Speaker 1: ready to go into the playoffs and prepare to compete
Speaker 1: and make a run like we asked you to old
Speaker 1: school reference here head because these two don't remember because
Speaker 1: they weren't boy talking about it's in Purple Rain, ability
Speaker 1: to ability. The club looks at the kid played by Prince.
Speaker 1: He said, but the kid asked him all the night.
Speaker 1: Else kid basically let him know, and he's like, like,
Speaker 1: I I got room for three groups, I ain't I
Speaker 1: don't need vote. And so man, come out there, stepped up,
Speaker 1: played Purple Rain. That was that for that on that
Speaker 1: that body cried, the legend was born, sucked out. Crowd's
Speaker 1: champ came back then did uh I would die for you,
Speaker 1: then finished it with baby I'm the Star. So that's
Speaker 1: what you got, got that performance like that? Man, I
Speaker 1: got a question for you. Multi likely if this, if
Speaker 1: this thing goes south against Tampa, not to be here
Speaker 1: next year because of the Joneses and not because another
Speaker 1: job opportunity. Mike McCarthy and Keller Moore. M I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Kella Moore, you said not because yes, most likely not.
Speaker 1: So who do you think the one who plays for
Speaker 1: this if you if you fall off? And when we're
Speaker 1: saying Mike McCarthy went twelve and five, you ain't following
Speaker 1: firing the coach that went back to back twelve twelve
Speaker 1: game seasons, is there a chance that you said, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll find we we're finally like I've been asking for
Speaker 1: for the last two years, going to let Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: run the offense and beat the offensive, coordinated and called plays.
Speaker 1: Kella Morre could be the head coach Calina Panther. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just that's the theory. I'm just I'm saying, who
Speaker 1: would fall forward, who pays for it? Is what I'm
Speaker 1: asking that's frustrating. Its calamor canabs he Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if if Dan Quinny comes a head coach for the
Speaker 1: Broncos or Indianapolis and Kelly Moore becomes the head coach
Speaker 1: of Carolina Panther this you know, it's really yeah, there's
Speaker 1: there's no you know, you've got no choices. Great stuff.
Speaker 1: It's I think so much is Tuesday. We may have
Speaker 1: a better clear because because I think either way, I
Speaker 1: think you went on if you win Monday night, come Tuesday,
Speaker 1: that just that just Kellen Moore stock goes up dan
Speaker 1: Quinn's I I don't think there's any issue with dan
Speaker 1: dan quinsnt. He's good regardless. Um and if they you know,
Speaker 1: all right, let's say they lose thirty one thirty you
Speaker 1: score thirty points in the playoffs. You know, Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: is gonna be okay. And I've said this consistently. Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore fits what these owners wore off. He's a young
Speaker 1: white play caller in the game and they produce a
Speaker 1: lot of points. These guys get hired for some reason.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because he wasn't next to Sean mcvagh. He
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten his shot, but guys like him get a job. Man,
Speaker 1: And once again here's this hiring cycle and already somebody's
Speaker 1: calling for him. So at some point time, man, he's
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna get a job. If Nick Sirianni you
Speaker 1: can get a job, and Koc can get a job
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and Zach tail In calliboy the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just been playing with the guy being a guy's teammate.
Speaker 1: It's just hard for me to see him in that
Speaker 1: role like he fits all he checks all the boxes,
Speaker 1: like you just said, he checks every single one. But
Speaker 1: being in that locker room you use in that locker
Speaker 1: room with him as well, you know understand what I'm
Speaker 1: getting that the guy, I just don't see him being
Speaker 1: that leader of men. Like let's get to Galvin has
Speaker 1: the truth. Let's get out here and get ready each
Speaker 1: and every week. I don't know. I don't see it.
Speaker 1: That guy in Miami, he's a guy. That's a guy
Speaker 1: you look at it. Yeah, I don't. And he's giving
Speaker 1: me a pep talk, you know. I'm like, it's because
Speaker 1: I don't know one. But if I'm watching, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. If he lands on a team like
Speaker 1: that where you got weapons everywhere, that I think it
Speaker 1: makes it a little bit easier. But if it's like
Speaker 1: you know, Carolina where you gotta go out there and Galvin,
Speaker 1: I don't see it. This is just me and I
Speaker 1: want to say it's a necessary probably. It's here's where
Speaker 1: I think you're thinking it's wrong. You're thinking like players.
Speaker 1: You gotta think like an owner. These dudes different. They
Speaker 1: playing no ball. They don't think like that. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be impressed by what they wanted is oh can this
Speaker 1: guy lead by franchise? Oh he's calling and what does
Speaker 1: the group think of my other owners do? This is
Speaker 1: what they're doing. So I hear what you're saying, because
Speaker 1: I had a scout with the team, was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, the dude can stand up in the room
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people and go go, you know,
Speaker 1: get the job done. But owners don't think like that. Man,
Speaker 1: Now I get what you're saying, and you're saying, leader
Speaker 1: of men can he does he have the presence as
Speaker 1: as a head coach and knowing him personally, you're saying, now,
Speaker 1: he doesn't. That's why I look at a guy like
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell out in Detroit. First time I saw that
Speaker 1: guy in front of in front of that team, I said,
Speaker 1: they're gonna win because of him, because of the way
Speaker 1: that he prepared, the way that he talks to them,
Speaker 1: like the all that, all those crazy antics seeing your
Speaker 1: coach out there and the heat of the summer running
Speaker 1: and doing that like that, Teams get behind that. You know.
Speaker 1: It seems like the little smallest thing, but that will
Speaker 1: make a guy say I'll run through waff of that.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Saying that about Hackett
Speaker 1: In Denver, they were just saying, hey, man, this guy
Speaker 1: he is in tune with the players. Because there was
Speaker 1: a big van jail. It was too hard on this
Speaker 1: guy's too with him. He was wearing so and so's
Speaker 1: T shirt. That's an unfair comparison between who I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Hack Hackett was he was, but I'm sober. But
Speaker 1: but when when when that that's what they were about?
Speaker 1: And then you had Nick Sirianni after Philadelphia doing something
Speaker 1: the same thing, so something, and he didn't take it first.
Speaker 1: Think about how when when everybody thought Nick Sirianni was
Speaker 1: a crackpot, I adn't think it was this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody thought this guy was out of it,
Speaker 1: you know, out of his noodle. And then all of
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Speaker 1: just because other people. But when I would when I
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Speaker 1: because that was the last place I worked, and they
Speaker 1: thought you from Cleveland, like not right from No. I
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Speaker 1: a whole I mean I knew a little bit, but
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Speaker 1: You don't really know a whole lot about the area
Speaker 1: as much. But I just knew the Browns left and
Speaker 1: so did I. Um, that was not as soon as
Speaker 1: I call my agent, man, they leaving, I need to
Speaker 1: go to the winners. Right, Well, I mean you don't
Speaker 1: want to live in the town. I mean that whole
Speaker 1: town's football. You don't live in the town about no football.
Speaker 1: And it was just it was just baseball and basketball.
Speaker 1: So and they had two playoff teams in baseball and basketball.
Speaker 1: But it's like, nah, man, it's about football over there.
Speaker 1: Offensive line tied to be honest, just coming back in center,
Speaker 1: Do we have some hope of you or what offensive line? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think that where you all ran down
Speaker 1: boy tyres Smith yea, the way they ran him down
Speaker 1: on meatimash Tyrants Smith. Yes, they ran Tiresmith down. So
Speaker 1: was that an accurate quote what McCarthy said about him
Speaker 1: about wiping the McCarthy said, the other hand, YEA said that, right.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be McCarthy said it. There was
Speaker 1: another offensive lineman who spoke about it, but you know, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but they were talking specifically about run blocking at that point. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, if if this time has gotten him better
Speaker 1: and then be Honest comes back, and then we can
Speaker 1: becoming a cohesive, a new enough group to then get
Speaker 1: the ring game back on track, then yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: I got some hoping him because I'm always I'm still
Speaker 1: leaning on if we can find a way to play
Speaker 1: solid defense. Solid defense don't even have to be great
Speaker 1: because I know we all have a you know, disadvantage
Speaker 1: over there. I love corner spot, but solid defense, stick
Speaker 1: to the running game, protect the ball. Then we got
Speaker 1: a chance to meet anybody. I still do believe that.
Speaker 1: But we have not played solid defense. To me, we
Speaker 1: have not protected the ball in our ring has not
Speaker 1: been working. So if be Honest coming back helps us
Speaker 1: get back into that group of being able to do
Speaker 1: thunder lightning Ezekiel Ellen and Tony Pollard, absolutely I'm good
Speaker 1: with that, then my hope um is high. Okay, they
Speaker 1: better figure out, you know, how to how to stop
Speaker 1: be the veil, all right, because that man right there
Speaker 1: is a game record. All right. I understand what Bey
Speaker 1: Honest bringing to the table, and a government on this
Speaker 1: left side. Maybe they can double to him and get
Speaker 1: but they better figure out how to move that man.
Speaker 1: We talk about the run game and better be able
Speaker 1: to pass. But that against that guy because he gain
Speaker 1: wrecked us the first time. All right, he was in
Speaker 1: the back. He lived in the backfield. He made life
Speaker 1: hard for Dak Prescott out there. So the middle of
Speaker 1: that offer him. I'm not worried about Zack Martin. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about not Terran Steel, but Tyron Smith. I like, Tyler,
Speaker 1: you grab me, but I like what he's going on.
Speaker 1: But the middle right there, that center, that guard combo
Speaker 1: against v the bed, because I'm not gonna put Vido
Speaker 1: on Zach Martin. You're not gonna want that back and
Speaker 1: forth battle. They want the easiest way, the least path
Speaker 1: of resistance, and it's between one of those two guys.
Speaker 1: So they better figure out how to handle him before
Speaker 1: they get going on anything else. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: offensive line is going to be pivotal. Although Um still
Speaker 1: had a bad penalty game versus the Bucks, he was
Speaker 1: in the in the run game, he was like that,
Speaker 1: you know Um. For Tyler Smith, I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: his rematch in this game because I've seen him with
Speaker 1: three games. I think that I look at his rookie
Speaker 1: season to say those were bad games from him in
Speaker 1: the Bucks game was bad. Shack Bearon baptized and welcome
Speaker 1: to the NFL, and then after that Aaron Donald baptizing,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL, and then his match up with
Speaker 1: Thibodeau from from the Giants. Those were three matchups that
Speaker 1: I think that I go back and say, boy, those
Speaker 1: were rough outs. But then you've seen him progressively get
Speaker 1: better as the season has gone on. Nobody talked about
Speaker 1: him moving from tackle to guard and how he's looked,
Speaker 1: and dude, it's a maller. I mean, he does a
Speaker 1: lot of great things. So when I think about va
Speaker 1: Bay and what his impact is going to be in
Speaker 1: this game, it you know, having beyond If if beyondist
Speaker 1: is back, I mean he say say he's gonna be back.
Speaker 1: But just at the same time timehouse being called thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: I didn't practice today. It was a little bit limited today.
Speaker 1: He got a calf, Henry ain't got something. Some dudes,
Speaker 1: hey banked up. So you know, I hope you're going
Speaker 1: on and I'm telling it. I guess the hood holiday,
Speaker 1: let me get you, let me get you that. I
Speaker 1: just hear that I believe I could fly. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: all right, but you know, it's still I've always been
Speaker 1: and I don't know about you guys, how you feel
Speaker 1: about high angles friends. I've never seen a guy just
Speaker 1: return like from a high angles frain to be good.
Speaker 1: It's always been limited. So you know, I played defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: but I did have a hell of a game that
Speaker 1: got a word. I was just special. Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: I know you got experience with that though I ain't
Speaker 1: played defensive line. Okay, cool say that all. The report
Speaker 1: here's that Vida Vane had a brace on his calf.
Speaker 1: M hm, So how can affective candy be? So they've
Speaker 1: had issues there, They've had issues. They had issues on
Speaker 1: the center.