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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks?

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Speaker 3: DJ, Bucky, Rhett with you and uh I feel like Buck,

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Speaker 3: we've done the same thing at the start of all

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Speaker 3: these episodes when Ret's with us, is that we always

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Speaker 3: comment on him wearing some eye you gear.

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Speaker 2: We give him, we give him. We talked about a big.

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Speaker 3: Win that they've just had over I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 3: a Minnesota or an Iowa somebody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's somebody all.

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Speaker 3: Wart program in the in the Big ten. But now, hey,

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Speaker 3: look it's he gets what he wants. I know what

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Speaker 3: I know, Rhett. He likes to uh ye and they

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Speaker 3: yeah got the they got the in state rival that

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Speaker 3: won't play him. They got notre name rehtt How fired

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Speaker 3: up are you for that whole thing?

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Speaker 1: Hey? They will they won't even come join us in

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Speaker 1: the conference. You know.

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Speaker 5: It's like I don't want any part of us. You know,

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Speaker 5: they've been scared since nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case. They've dominated here.

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna go? Are you going to the game?

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Speaker 1: I will be there.

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Speaker 2: I will be there. Oh wow, look at that.

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Speaker 5: Oh yep, freezing cold in South Bend. Ready to rock

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Speaker 5: and roll? Man, who's yours ready?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want to ruin the I

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Speaker 3: don't want to ruin the timing of this because as

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Speaker 3: we're recording it and things could change efforts. But we

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Speaker 3: have tons of We're gonna ge throw all these games.

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Speaker 3: But I'm sorry, We'll get there. But Buck, what in

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Speaker 3: the world is going on at your alma mater? What

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Speaker 3: in the world is going on?

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Speaker 4: What are we talking about? You talking about Bill Belichi?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Look, the best player that he ever coached was

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Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 6: Like he understands the pedigree of player and athlete that

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Speaker 6: comes from there. He wants to have an opportunity to

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Speaker 6: get it at the ground level. I heard him on

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Speaker 6: TV talk about it today. I was always skeptical, like, man,

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Speaker 6: does he really want to?

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Speaker 4: Like why would he do it?

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Speaker 6: But the way that he outline some of the things,

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Speaker 6: like the unlimited coaches where you could almost split it,

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Speaker 6: like you just have coaches coach and some recruiters recruit.

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Speaker 6: That was the biggest thing. And then the coaching part

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Speaker 6: of it is whatever. I mean, Look, he's seventy two

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Speaker 6: seventy three years old. Would he be for long? I

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Speaker 6: don't know, but like at this point when you're looking

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Speaker 6: around the landscape, tu lank CoA said, no, Barry Odom

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Speaker 6: goes to Purdue. Some of the other candidates that they

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Speaker 6: talked about, like have going elsewhere. I think you getting

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Speaker 6: to the point where Carolina is just trying to find

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Speaker 6: a notable name that could excite the fan base.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I just laughed, because the

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Speaker 3: Premise of the change with Matt was, hey, Max LOLd,

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Speaker 3: we gotta get some fresh blood in here. Kind of

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Speaker 3: reminds me of being in high school and breaking up

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Speaker 3: with a girl and being like, you know, I just

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Speaker 3: don't want to be in a relationship right now, and

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Speaker 3: then two days later eating somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Here, you know what I mean? Like, Yeah, well, you

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Speaker 2: say what you got to say.

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Speaker 4: You say what you got to say.

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Speaker 1: Get on to the next stet, get on to the

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Speaker 1: next tit.

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Speaker 3: Get to the next seme of the games here. Let's

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Speaker 3: start with last night Sunday night football. I just got

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Speaker 3: back when you talk about a long night when you

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Speaker 3: get home late. So I rolled into the bed about

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Speaker 3: six am this morning off that game last night. But

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Speaker 3: do you know what, I didn't even need to watch

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Speaker 3: the tape of this game. I got up and watch

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Speaker 3: them of these other games because I've seen this game

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Speaker 3: fifty times since I've been calling Chargers Chiefs games. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they are the same every single time. Chiefs can lead,

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Speaker 3: Chargers end up coming back, Chargers in a position to

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Speaker 3: Mahomes has the ball in his hands less than five minutes,

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Speaker 3: and you know the script. He's going to use his

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Speaker 3: first down that they need. And then why not just

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, man that the Kancity Chiefs are kind

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Speaker 6: you kind of have the luck of the Irish, the

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Speaker 6: lucky leprechaun or whatever that is. Because they've won games

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Speaker 6: in every conceivable way this year, to the point that

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Speaker 6: you do wonder if some teams are going to have

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Speaker 4: I look, man, you have to give.

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Speaker 6: Them credit because they obviously are good enough to close

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Speaker 5: Nine straight AFC West Division titles, second only to the

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Speaker 5: Patriots run where they got eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like you going back and.

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Speaker 5: Listening to you talk about DJ the you know it's

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Speaker 1: He's it.

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Speaker 5: There was Dane Henley had a shot, right, But you

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Speaker 5: just really didn't have a shot because in that scenario,

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Speaker 5: Mahomes always wins, right, and then Bam finds, Kelsey, uncovers,

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Speaker 5: and they just run out the clock. Like It's just

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Speaker 5: we have seen that too many times. I will say

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Speaker 5: thought Quentin Johnson played a nice game for the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: He had been he had been, you know, kind of

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Speaker 5: good moments this season. Feels like this is going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I left there. It was interesting.

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Speaker 3: I left the stadium and the first half of the

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Speaker 3: Chargers couldn't do anything offensive. In the second half, they

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Speaker 3: But you're you're leaving there going okay. You try and

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Speaker 3: fast forward it and go okay. If we get to

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Speaker 3: the postseason and the Chargers were to trot that same

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Speaker 2: You could go.

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, okay, well, if you get off that

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Speaker 3: You've got Ladd McConkie, you've got Denzel Perrim and all

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Speaker 3: you've learned, Like every opportunity for this new coaching staff

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Speaker 3: against the Chiefs is a learning opportunity. They lose seventeen

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting and going, man, I think could bring a

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Speaker 2: I think you've learned something.

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Speaker 3: And one of the lessons I think that you learn

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Speaker 3: is that if you go back and I haven't done

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Speaker 3: it yet, but I saw it live. When Derwin James

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Speaker 3: I mean, he just he jammed with the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: He couldn't do anything. But on the biggest play of

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Speaker 3: third down, he wasn't he wasn't lined up over him.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a lesson that you can learn and

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Speaker 3: don't make that mistake again.

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Speaker 2: But Buck, I'm watching them and it's so weird.

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Speaker 3: You know, first of all, the game, in the pregame,

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Speaker 3: which we'll get to that game, the fans went nuts.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sitting there. You know, they're they're thinking obviously

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Speaker 3: I sit and watch this game and I watch DJ Humphries,

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Speaker 3: who's taken over for Janya Morris yon Ye Morris was terrible,

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Speaker 3: but they were wearing them out and I'm sitting here

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Speaker 3: going like, it's so weird to say because this team's

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Speaker 3: record is unbelievable, the best, the best record in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: back to back super Bowl champs, but you watch it

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Speaker 3: live and you're like, man, I'm looking at Buffalo. I'm like, Buffalo,

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Speaker 3: would you rather play the Chiefs or the or the

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Speaker 2: I think I'd be okay with that.

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Speaker 3: I think I'd be okay going into Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: The only thing else.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know what I'm saying. I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 2: I know the record, and I know and I know Rings.

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Speaker 3: I know Rings, But I just looking at the roster

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Speaker 3: out there, I'm like, they don't have much team speed

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Speaker 3: on offense. They've got one guy who can run on

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just weird. It's a weird. It's

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Speaker 3: a weird thing to see a team with the record

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Speaker 3: and the trophy case as full as it is, yes,

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Speaker 3: and to leave the stadium and to leave the stadium

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Speaker 3: going like this is not I mean, I've been in

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Speaker 3: that stadium when they were humming and you're like, oh, man,

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Speaker 3: this is a juggernaut.

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Speaker 5: Man, le's than three hundred yards of total offense. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's they finding ways to win those games.

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Speaker 1: Is the skills?

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Speaker 2: It's sure.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, But what do your take on that, buck,

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Speaker 3: Because I'm just sitting there going.

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Speaker 6: Like, I mean, you know I've seen this movie before, right,

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Speaker 6: I feel like this.

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Speaker 2: Movie a billion times.

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Speaker 6: The early the early two thousand Patriots, Like the early

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Speaker 6: two thousands Patriots that won three out of four. When

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Speaker 6: you looked at them on offense, you wondered, how in

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Speaker 6: the world are they winning these games? But there's something

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Speaker 5: Cardinals are defending it. So like, if you look at

439
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Speaker 5: the way the teams run outside zone against the Cardinals,

440
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Speaker 5: that's obviously the most you know, frequent run concept there.

441
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Speaker 5: Teams are averaging about forty yards of pop, but it's

442
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Speaker 5: almost six a pop. Now, It's obviously a smaller sample size,

443
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Speaker 5: but that's something to kind of look at moving forward.

444
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Speaker 2: Here. What the Cardinals got to figure some things out? Man,

445
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Speaker 2: They just.

446
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Speaker 3: You know, from where they were three weeks ago, four

447
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,919
Speaker 3: weeks ago, and then kind of what's happened And Kyler

448
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 3: is not really locked in right now now. It's a disappointing.

449
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Speaker 3: I was impressed when I saw him in person earlier

450
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Speaker 3: this year. I thought they were kind of playing above

451
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Speaker 3: their talent level, and I think maybe now they've bucked.

452
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Speaker 3: They might have fallen down a little bit to their

453
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Speaker 3: talent level, because I don't think this is one of

454
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Speaker 3: the more talented team's overall roster wise.

455
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Speaker 6: No, and I think it looks ultimately they did come

456
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Speaker 6: back to their talent level.

457
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Speaker 4: They were playing great.

458
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Speaker 6: They're playing kind of I would say, punching above their weight.

459
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Speaker 6: But now they're playing these meaningful games. People are really

460
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Speaker 6: exposing their week spots. And when Brett talks about the

461
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Speaker 6: counter and the difficulty and defending the counter man, it

462
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Speaker 6: takes a defensive end that can smash that thing back

463
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Speaker 6: and box it, and then it takes speed running it

464
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Speaker 6: down from the backside. And when we look at this

465
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Speaker 6: team defensively, they have some worker bees, but I don't

466
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Speaker 6: know if they have a lot of blue chip talents

467
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Speaker 6: right now as they're presently constructed.

468
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's going to be an interesting division.

469
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Speaker 3: I think of all the divisions, it's still pretty bunched

470
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Speaker 3: up right now. And I don't know that expectations exist

471
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Speaker 3: for whoever does come out of this division. But I

472
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Speaker 3: know watching the Seahawks team over the last month, it's

473
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Speaker 3: a dangerous squad. Watch the Minnesota Vikings, Sam Darnold, welcome

474
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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins back home. Well one a little bit better

475
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Speaker 3: for one side than the other.

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Speaker 2: Rhtt. I'll leave it open for you there.

477
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Speaker 1: You know what the only good thing of you knowell,

478
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Speaker 1: let me rephrase this.

479
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Speaker 5: You know what the best thing about being on a

480
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 5: cruise is is that you can you can get whatever

481
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Speaker 5: you want at dinner, right, you can order the lobster

482
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 5: and the prime right, Yeah, whatever you want or yeah,

483
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 5: it doesn't even have to be the buffet, like whatever's

484
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Speaker 5: on the menu.

485
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Speaker 1: You just give me all of it. They'll bring it in.

486
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Speaker 5: That's what Sam Darnold had on offense with Jordan Addison

487
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 5: and with Justin Jefferson. He had the lobster, you had

488
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Speaker 5: a prime rib and you know, maybe you got a

489
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Speaker 5: little bit of caviar with his cheesecake for dessert, like

490
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Speaker 5: I mean all of it, okay, And so that was

491
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 5: great right for the Vikings. And then on the flip side,

492
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 5: like Kirk Cousins started this game, he was on fire

493
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Speaker 5: in his return. He was excellent in the first quarter

494
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Speaker 5: and now made a couple of one bad decision, one

495
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 5: bad throw, and the wheels were just off the bus

496
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Speaker 5: because of how good the Minnesota Vikings was I feel

497
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 5: like because of the interceptions, this this is going to

498
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Speaker 5: turn into a narrative on Kirk Cousins. But I'd be

499
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Speaker 5: more concerned with the Falcons defense than I am with

500
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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins at this point. The way they let Sam

501
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Speaker 5: Darnell knife them up through the air in this game book.

502
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you talk about the defense having problems, but I mean,

503
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Speaker 6: everybody should struggle against the Minnesota Vikings when they're fully

504
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 6: healthy and everyone is available in the lineup. We've talked

505
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Speaker 6: about it on the podcast a few times. When they

506
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Speaker 6: have their A team Jordan Addison, Justin Jefferson, TJ. Hockinson,

507
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 6: Aaron Jones in the backfield, it's really hard to match

508
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Speaker 6: up with their group. And even though the offensive line

509
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Speaker 6: has been weakened with Derisha going out, Cam Robinson has

510
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 6: been pretty solid for them left tackle since he arrived.

511
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 6: This is a really good team. And I'm gonna say this,

512
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 6: and we've talked about it. Hass off to Kevin O'Connell

513
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 6: for having a vision for how Sam Donald could play

514
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Speaker 6: in this offense and really maximizing the talent that Sam

515
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Speaker 6: Donald had.

516
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Speaker 4: And look, he's made a lot of the people that

517
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Speaker 4: had big.

518
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Speaker 6: Grades on Sam Donald made them those those old notebooks.

519
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Speaker 6: And I'll say this, I think it's a great problem

520
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Speaker 6: to have because so many people are ready to say, hey,

521
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Speaker 6: the Minnesota Viking's got to usher them out and this

522
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 6: and that not so fast?

523
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Speaker 4: Why give up on.

524
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Speaker 1: A good second, get rid of this.

525
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Speaker 6: Yeah, when you've done all of this work and you

526
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Speaker 6: got them up and going, I think it's a great

527
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Speaker 6: problem to have.

528
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Speaker 4: You can never have too many quarterbacks.

529
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Speaker 6: The Minnesota Vikings have put themselves in a nice situation

530
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Speaker 6: with Sam Donald this year, and who knows what it

531
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Speaker 6: looks like next year, whether it's him, Danie Jones, whoever.

532
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Speaker 4: Else they put it at quarterback spot.

533
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Speaker 2: So two quick thoughts.

534
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Speaker 3: First of all, my favorite thing to do on a

535
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Speaker 3: Monday after an NFL Sunday is to pull up the

536
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: projected stats going forward Sam Donald, where you could see

537
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Speaker 3: he's on pace, he's all the way back on pace,

538
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: he's all the way back thirty thirty seven touchdowns, thirteen picks,

539
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 3: forty three hundred with eight point five per attempt. So

540
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: here's my here's my one. Sam Donald thought, h rhtt,

541
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Speaker 3: I'll get it to you. Kick it around the horn. Uh,

542
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 3: and we keep the train moving here. But as someone

543
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: who has been in quarterback purgatory with the Jets and

544
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Speaker 3: with the Panthers before a brief stop off with the

545
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers as a backup, If I'm Sam Donald,

546
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Speaker 3: I you know everybody, there's been a lot.

547
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Speaker 2: I guess hear somebody.

548
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chefter had a report saying that they haven't engaged

549
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 3: him on long term talks. If I'm Sam Rhett, I'm

550
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: going to the Vikings. I mean like, hey, look, I'm

551
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 3: gonna this has been great for me and I want

552
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Speaker 3: to do I want to give back to you. I'll

553
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 3: come to you with a deal and it'll be the

554
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: It'll be an extremely team friendly deal. I know I

555
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: can go I know you could trade me, or I

556
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: could just be an unrestricted free agent. I can go

557
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Speaker 3: on the market and I can make probably what fifty

558
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: million a year because the quarterback draft class isn't very

559
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: good and there's a lot of teams that need a quarterback.

560
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 3: I can go get. You know, let's just be you know,

561
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: forty to fifty a year up in the upper echelon

562
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Speaker 3: of that. I would just be like, look, what's the

563
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 3: difference to me between you know, the thirty five and

564
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Speaker 3: the forty five, you know, and I'm just going arbitrary

565
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: numbers out here. Like I've been on crappy teams. It's

566
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 3: no fun. Like I'll do you a solid. I'll come

567
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: to you with a team friendly deal. Let's lock this

568
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Speaker 3: thing in. I want to stay here. I want to

569
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Speaker 3: play here for another you know, five to seven years,

570
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Speaker 3: and just with this group of players, with this play caller, Rett,

571
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Money's not everything, is what I'm getting at.

572
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Speaker 5: We just go do the Baker Mayfield deal. Why don't

573
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Speaker 5: we go do what he did?

574
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Speaker 2: But what is that three four hundred deal?

575
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Speaker 5: Three three for a hundred and so is that thirty

576
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 5: thirty four thirty four to thirty five?

577
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

578
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so so then so then what you do. Let's

579
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Speaker 6: add let's add ten million for inflation. So let's just

580
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Speaker 6: make it three. Let's make it three for one ten.

581
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Speaker 6: And everyone is happening. I mean like yeah, I mean

582
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Speaker 6: like it makes sense for them to want to keep

583
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Speaker 6: him because he is only improved over the course of

584
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Speaker 6: the season and you can just see him getting comfortable.

585
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 6: And what we saw was the explosive element against the

586
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 6: Atlanta Falcons where they would really is the thing to

587
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 6: be in attack mode?

588
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: Why not?

589
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Speaker 5: I mean, the biggest, the biggest piece of it, Bucky

590
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 5: and just Kevin O'Connell doesn't exist everywhere, right, I mean,

591
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson and Jordan Edison don't exist everywhere. And I

592
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 5: get much better you No, I'm talking about the three p's.

593
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 5: It doesn't get much better in the Minnesota Vikings right

594
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Speaker 5: now for a.

595
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Speaker 2: Quarterback, no question. Yeah, I don't know.

596
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Speaker 3: I just I'm sitting here in a Monday where everbody's

597
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: talking about Wuan Soto going to the highest bidder for

598
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Speaker 3: you know, what could be eight hundred million dollars and

599
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: just you know, taking the most money you could possibly get.

600
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Speaker 5: I just, hey, wait, what's the difference with seven six

601
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 5: when you sifty million?

602
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: What's the difference?

603
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 2: What's difference? So that's what I don't I don't get that.

604
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: I know that on the agent side of things, you

605
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: want to get the big number to be able to use.

606
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Speaker 2: But let's go where you're happy.

607
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: You go where you're having fun, Like do you look

608
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: forward to going to the office every day like that?

609
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 3: And maybe that's once so it always going to look

610
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: for that. But I don't want to get sidetracked. But

611
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: I'm just like I've seen if I'm if I'm if

612
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: I'm Sam, I've seen how bad this is other places.

613
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 3: Why would I want to go through that again for

614
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Speaker 3: you know, an extra eight to ten million bucks or

615
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 3: whatever else you would be able to get.

616
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

617
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: That's uh, that's just my thought there.

618
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: All right.

619
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Speaker 1: We easy to say what it ate your money? Right?

620
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 6: No?

621
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Speaker 2: I know, but I mean what are you going to get?

622
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: What do you? I mean, how many golf memberships?

623
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Speaker 1: Do you?

624
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: Only so many hours iday? What else you do there?

625
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: All right, let's keep the train moving here, Let's get

626
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: to Vegas, Tampa Bay. I don't you know, Buck, I

627
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: don't think we need to spend a ton of time here.

628
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: But we were just talking about Baker Mayfield. I guess

629
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Speaker 3: we can keep it on that on that subject here.

630
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Speaker 6: I think it's another learning lesson in quarterback play and

631
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Speaker 6: just how important the environment is for quarterbacks. And when

632
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 6: you look at what Baker Mayfield has been able to

633
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 6: do first last year on the day of Canal, it's

634
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 6: been now on the limb Cohen and Tampa, like he

635
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 6: just has kind of figured out who he is and

636
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 6: what he needs to be to be a successful NFL quarterback.

637
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: We're really a franchise quarterback.

638
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 6: And this team has lost a lot a lot of

639
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 6: offensive personnel, but yet here they are still doing it.

640
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 6: Ty Bowles has done a really good job with this defense.

641
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 6: And even though look they're playing a lightweight and the Raiders,

642
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 6: you still got to win these games. And so it

643
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 6: puts them in a position to capture the NFC South

644
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 6: if they take care of business over the next month.

645
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: Man, I looked I was watching this game.

646
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 5: This was one of our games on the early window

647
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 5: of Game Day live on NFL Network, and we're watching

648
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 5: the say and the Bucks are running down and looks

649
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 5: like they are going to put up fifty. I mean

650
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 5: it was fourteen, nothing like that. And I'm like, all right,

651
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 5: it was about the last we're going to see this

652
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 5: this game. We're going to keep it moving and I mean,

653
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 5: like low and behold though the Raiders stay in this thing.

654
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 5: And I mean they tried to get blown out in

655
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: this game with the turnovers. They had a bad quarterback

656
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Speaker 5: center exchange. I actually had a couple of turnovers that

657
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 5: were reversed that end up, you know, not being turnovers,

658
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 5: but could have been disaster for the Raiders. They stayed

659
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 5: in this game towards the end, and then you know,

660
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 5: O'Connell went down and things kind of went off the rails.

661
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 5: But bottom line is they've got a front end front line,

662
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 5: top line talent and Brock Bowers and not a whole

663
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Speaker 5: lot else. I mean, like, I remember calling Sincere McCormick's

664
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 5: utsa game against Army back in twenty nineteen, and I'm like,

665
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 5: holy smokes, he is starting at tailback for the Las

666
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 5: Vegas Raiders here in Week fourteen, Like you know, and

667
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 5: with the respect he played pretty dang good in this

668
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 5: game too.

669
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Speaker 1: But they got a lot of work to do.

670
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Speaker 5: Like if you're Sam Darnold and you're looking at quarterback

671
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 5: needy teams, like, I don't know if I have play

672
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 5: caller here. I definitely don't have playmakers here. Probably don't

673
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: have protection here either. It's not a pretty picture out

674
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: there for teams that are going to be in the

675
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 5: quarterback market, you know, that want to find success relatively quickly.

676
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 5: Raiders got a lot of work to do on that front.

677
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to completely contradict everything that I just

678
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: said five minutes ago, just for the sake of this segment.

679
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: Buck just for a fun factor here, right, this is

680
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: just for fun factor, fun factor conversation all full disclaimer.

681
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: So let's just say Sam Donald the Minnesota says, we

682
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: have an unbelievable year, but we're not. We're gonna go

683
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: with JJ going next year. So Sam gets to the market,

684
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: the Raiders sign Sam, don't if you give a draft

685
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: draft pick form. They just pay him handsomely. You got

686
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: the first pick, you go get Travis Hunter. And now

687
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: on the billboards as you drive around, maybe it's on

688
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: that big with a sphere or whatever, and it's it's

689
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: Brock Bowers Travis Hunter, Sam Donald like watchability wise, the

690
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 3: Raiders got kind of fun right there. I mean they

691
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: still can't block a soul, no offensive line, but from

692
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: an entertainment for me to entertainment city would be kind

693
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Speaker 3: of fun.

694
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Speaker 4: I mean it would be fun.

695
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.

696
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a lot of smoking.

697
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: It's a little bit.

698
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: And teller Man Vegas.

699
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of a lot of a lot of

700
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 6: a lot of magical stuff.

701
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Speaker 2: Sam.

702
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Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of Yeah, there's gonna be

703
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: a lot of conversations. You can have Uh, in the offseas,

704
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: I may take Trey Smith, Pam and free agency come

705
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: over and fortify the interior that offensive line, and we

706
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: all have the time to fix the Raiders. That's a

707
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: longer discussion than just a Monday recap pod. All right,

708
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: let's uh, let's keep the train moving here. Let's get

709
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: to this next ballgame. Uh, Carolina Philly, Look, Buck, we

710
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: can we can go to Philly kind of winning ugly.

711
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: I continue to look at Carolina, Man, they gave the

712
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: Chiefs everything they could handle, which is the best team

713
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: in the AFC, and they turn around and should have

714
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: beat I mean, should have beat the Chiefs, turn around,

715
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: should beat the Philadelphia Eagles. I mean, this is kind

716
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: of a it's a perfect result. To be honest with you,

717
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: they won't they would never say that. But organizationally, Bryce

718
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: Young's playing well. You're playing competitive football against some of

719
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: the best teams in the NFL, and yet you're still

720
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: protecting your draft status for a team that obviously is

721
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Speaker 3: not going to the playoffs.

722
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Speaker 6: I give Dave Canals a lot of credit, Like, the

723
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 6: hardest thing to do is to continue to adapt, particularly

724
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 6: is your first year as a head coach and he's

725
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Speaker 6: been able to do that. I think he's been a

726
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 6: much better uh head coach the second half of the

727
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 6: season what he's done with Bryce Young.

728
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: Bryce Young is playing with.

729
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 6: More confidence, more decisiveness, and that has led to better

730
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 6: production from their offense.

731
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: And then defensively, they're playing hard.

732
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Speaker 6: So it's a horror playing team as a team that

733
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 6: is inching closer towards being very competitive and eventually winning

734
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 6: these games. Yeah, so you like the progress that's being

735
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 6: made On the other side, though, I'm a little concerned

736
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 6: when I see A J. Brown and DeVonta Smith kind

737
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 6: of going at a little bit on the sideline. You know,

738
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 6: I know that not a lot of balls flying over

739
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 6: the yard in the passing game, but I let upset

740
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: about them guys trying to figure out what's going on,

741
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: you know, and.

742
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: Now here here's a couple of things.

743
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: Are the Eagles a better offense when AJ Brown is

744
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 5: involved in a big piece of the puzzle, Absolutely, unequivocally yes.

745
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: But they just wanted they just won a game. I

746
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: get it.

747
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 5: Was it the most convincing, you know, game you've ever

748
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 5: won in your life against a team that has only

749
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 5: has three wins on the year.

750
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Speaker 1: But Sakwan Barkley breaks the record.

751
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 5: He's now the Eagles single season rushing record holders, passes

752
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 5: Leshawn McCoy in this game. I just don't know that

753
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: we need to leave our postgame commerence up for interpretation

754
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: about our dissatisfaction with the way that we won a game.

755
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 5: This is like what we were talking about with the

756
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 5: Eagles last year. I thought we put all this stuff

757
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 5: to bed, Like, we don't need to be bringing this

758
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 5: back up a week fourteen while we're making a push

759
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 5: to win this in the NFC East Division. We're within

760
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 5: striking distance of the Detroit lines at the top of

761
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 5: the conference, right, I mean, like, hey, I just I

762
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 5: get it.

763
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Speaker 1: You want to be a part of the game play,

764
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the win. But

765
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: just there's better ways to hop about that.

766
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: I feel like I would say though at that the

767
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Senior, I guess have to be specific. Now,

768
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: those are few and far between. The guys who play

769
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: that position, who just quietly go about their business. If

770
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: they get balls, they get balls. If they don't, they

771
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: don't like this is the norm. This isn't the exception.

772
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: This is normal standard operation.

773
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Speaker 5: We have seen this derailed the Eagles. Hey, we saw

774
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 5: it last year. There was discontent everywhere.

775
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, no, I yeah, look, I'm gonna let's

776
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: see where it goes going forward. But you know, there's

777
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: my takeaway on this one. On the Eagle side of things,

778
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: Buck is not just being in a stadium with Chris

779
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: Jones and seeing a guy who in playoff games has

780
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: just taken over and literally finished games and been a closer.

781
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: Jalen Carter is a closer like he is someone who

782
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: is a nightmare to block inside. I think he had

783
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: five pressures in this game from the interior and as

784
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: well as playing on the other side of line of

785
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: scrimmage against the run. He's somebody I think keep an

786
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: eye on him. You get in the postseason, you're looking

787
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: for a defensive lineman who could kind of get hot.

788
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: Obviously Aaron Donald we've seen him get, you know, going

789
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: on an epic run in the postseason. Chris Jones has

790
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: done it. You know, there there's one there. I think

791
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: the Bucks team when they won their Super Bowl, those

792
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: their edge guys went off. I think Jalen Carter's getting

793
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: to that level.

794
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 6: Look is dominant player and the thing that stands out

795
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 6: this year, they can go harder for longer. They're still

796
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 6: rolling people in and out, but to me, they're just

797
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 6: in better physical condition and that is going to be

798
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 6: a huge benefit for them as they get into the postseason.

799
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 6: If Jalen Carter can continue to operate at this pace

800
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 6: where he's really destructive and he is able to be

801
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 6: disruptive in key moments, it gives them the edge over

802
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 6: even the Detroit Lions depending on where the game is.

803
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 6: There's still so much promise, so much to like about

804
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 6: this team eventually being the best team in the NFC

805
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 6: and the team that may represent the NFC and the

806
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 6: Super Bowl.

807
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Speaker 5: Hey, quickly on the Panthers here, DJ, you know, it's

808
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 5: just it's awful for Jonathan Brooks. The same ACLI tour

809
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: last November at Texas, he tears it again and this

810
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 5: was his third game back, I believe, and you could

811
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 5: just see it right away. What just felt it, you know,

812
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 5: kind of in that right knee, and man, I just

813
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: feel for him, feel for the Panthers as days you're

814
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 5: going to embark on another rehab and look it certainly

815
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 5: would be surprised if we see him at the start

816
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 5: of next season.

817
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, look, you know who he needs to call.

818
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: He needs to call Frank Gore. Yeah, and get some

819
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: encouragement from somebody who's done the same thing and battled

820
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: through multiple ACLS and historic long career. So hopefully the

821
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 3: same happens there for him as he recovers from that injury. Chicago,

822
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: San Francisco, guys, we've been pretty positive today.

823
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 2: I think for the most part. Let me turn, let

824
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: me change that.

825
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: I you know, I've said, I think Kayleb Williams is

826
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: extremely talented, and the box score in this game does

827
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: not matched the video. When I went back and watched it,

828
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: the box score didn't look that bad in this ballgame.

829
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: But goly, he's got to stop holding the ball so long, man, Buck.

830
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: He's just he's just got to let it rip. I

831
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 3: don't know if it's if he's not seeing it because

832
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: he is hanging on one for way too long, or

833
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: whether he just is still got a little bit of

834
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: that fear of failure and doesn't want to make a mistake.

835
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: But I mean, the forty.

836
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: Nine ers, they're still hanging around at six and seven.

837
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: Their season's not over. They've got a chance, even with

838
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 3: all their injuries. To fight back into it and we

839
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: can get to the forty nine ers in a second.

840
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

841
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: There was a good reminder watching the tape on this

842
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: that don't box scor scout. There's been games where he

843
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 3: has had ugly numbers and I thought he's played better.

844
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: This is the opposite. I thought the numbers looked a

845
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: little bit better than the performance. I was a little

846
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: disappointed on that.

847
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, and they played against a team that was

848
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 6: fighting for the lives that was dis kind of like

849
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 6: the last Hurrah, and they came with full aggression. And

850
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 6: the thing about Kayla Williams that's frustrating is you see

851
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 6: him operate at a high level in moments, but he

852
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 6: just can't sustain it. Like you see the ball come

853
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 6: out on time, you see him read, you see him

854
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 6: scramble when he needs to, all of those things.

855
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: But then there're other times you're like, man, like, just

856
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 4: make the game easy.

857
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 6: And naturally, first year player is going they're going to

858
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 6: have some ups and downs and go through growing pains,

859
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 6: but you.

860
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 4: Would just like to see him kind of do like.

861
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 6: Some of his classmates are doing right where you kind

862
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 6: of felt like the trajectory was on the up. You're

863
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 6: just getting too many up and downs from the number

864
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 6: one overall pick and you just like to see him

865
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 6: smooth it out as we hit them stretch.

866
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's not just offensively though, I mean

867
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 5: they let up ten explosives, Georget.

868
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: Freaking running through them like switching going through the second

869
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: level of their defense.

870
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, obviously not great.

871
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: And I think you that's that's what you lose a

872
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 5: little bit right when now you've you know, you have

873
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 5: Matt Eberflu's gone for not just the game management portion

874
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: of this Chicago Bears team, but of the defense to

875
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 5: and man, the wheels fall off the bus on.

876
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: That side, Robert Solid, I mean, look at the Jets

877
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: defense since you fire him. It's this unintended consequence when

878
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: you get upset with maybe not using a timeout or

879
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: this side or the other, when a guy runs one

880
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: side of the ball. It's not just the head coach

881
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: that's getting let go. It's so anyways, we don't need

882
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: to go much further.

883
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: There, Buck. Do you have any hope for the for

884
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: the for the Niners going forward?

885
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 5: I mean nope, you got another interview Grendo like, Yeah,

886
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: it's just it's it's look that the NFC West is

887
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 5: going to keep a minute. They're two games out and

888
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 5: that they can keep staying afloat, keep bringing back some reinforcements.

889
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: Maybe that was.

890
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: That was very exciting. That was riveting there, guys. I'm

891
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: fired up. If I'm a forty nine Ers fan, listen

892
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: to that.

893
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys.

894
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:26,479
Speaker 3: Cleveland Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh's rolling man. A game that they would

895
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: probably be their worst game of the year at Cleveland, Well,

896
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: didn't happen that way. In Pittsburgh. They handled business. Russell

897
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: Wilson was excellent. They beat the Browns at home for

898
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: the twenty first straight time. Are you kidding me? Twenty

899
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: one straight? That's insane? What an insane number. Gosh, that

900
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: was a part of that was a part of a

901
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: couple of those losses with the Cleveland definite.

902
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: Goes back a man.

903
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: Uh, look when when you watch this game, the defensive

904
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: front of Pittsburgh was outstanding and they've got so many

905
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: guys like you. For Kem Benton had a pick in

906
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: this game on a screen where he makes an unbelievable

907
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: play where he sees it, sniffs it out. Uh, makes

908
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: the play. They've got a lot of bodies they can

909
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: roll through there. Then you go over to the other

910
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: side of the ball. Russ Is he's playing confidently, he's

911
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: working in seams with firemouth. You don't even have your

912
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: best offensive weapon and George Pickens in this game. It

913
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Jalen Warren's running really, really hard. As their

914
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: nice compliment, I don't think you want to overuse him.

915
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: I think he's at his best when he's sharing that

916
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 3: with Naji. But man, he's he's a nice piece for

917
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: them and they're gonna be a tough out when they

918
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 3: get into the postseason. So a big win for Pittsburgh

919
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: over clevelandt the Jets and the Dolphins.

920
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: Did you subject yourself to that?

921
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, watch that one for sure. Watched you

922
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: know what this.

923
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 5: Jets passing attack was supposed to look like, you know,

924
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 5: as Aaron Rodgers in one hundred yards to Garret Wilson,

925
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 5: one hundred yards to Devonte Adams and their scoring some

926
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 5: points and touchdowns, and it just.

927
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: It wasn't enough.

928
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 5: They couldn't deal with what the what the Dolphins had

929
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 5: in the pass game.

930
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: Now they stopped the run.

931
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 5: Now that's something I'd be a little bit concerned about

932
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 5: it from the Dolphins moving forward have not been able

933
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 5: to run the ball with a ton of effectiveness over

934
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 5: the course of the last couple of weeks, but tyreek

935
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 5: Kill and Jalen Waddell were impactful in this game. And

936
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 5: then John Neu Smith, who was held basically without a

937
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 5: catch for the entirety of the game, comes off and

938
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 5: sponsors the overtime walk off winning drive and catches ends

939
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 5: up with three catches, forty four yards and a touchdown,

940
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 5: saving my fantasy season, sending me to the postseason, and

941
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 5: all the while keeping the Miami Dolphins in the postseason.

942
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: I was sweating that for the fantasy team, right, we

943
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: were all great one news. We can all rejoice on

944
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 3: that Jackson Jacksonville, Tennessee as we're going rapid fire games

945
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: a bar burner.

946
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 6: But I think the lesson that you learned here is

947
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 6: players not plays, and the Jackman Jaguars offensively couldn't move

948
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 6: the ball at all until they had the epiphany in

949
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 6: the second half to say, you know what, maybe we

950
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 6: should get the ball to Brian Thomas Junior, and Brian

951
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 6: Thomas Junior having zero receptions in the first half, to

952
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 6: finish him with eight and what he did, he lit

953
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 6: up the offense he may plays. He confirmed why he

954
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 6: is one of the promising young wide receivers that look,

955
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 6: he is going to be in that conversation being elite

956
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 6: really quickly. He has all the goods, all the tools

957
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 6: to do anything that he wants to do on a perimeter.

958
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 6: When the Jaguars got them the ball, their offense open up.

959
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: It's a lesson to be learned. Good players make good offenses.

960
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 6: Get the ball to your best players, and your offense

961
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 6: has a chance to operate at.

962
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: Ilum Buck last year, at the end of the year,

963
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 3: Herbert was missing some games, and I thought about when

964
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: you do your expenses, you send them in when you're

965
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: calling these games. I thought, maybe pain and suffering an

966
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: extra five hundred game. I don't know what you're thinking there,

967
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: but you might as well see if mister Connell give

968
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: you a little extra subjecting your eyeballs to this product

969
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: right now.

970
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 4: Man, it's a different approach. It's a different approach.

971
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: It's a different approach.

972
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 4: When you're out of it and your star quarterback is

973
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: not there. It's a different approach.

974
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 6: But they played hard, so there was some solace in

975
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 6: watching the team play hard.

976
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, rhtt.

977
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 3: I give you the floor here for New Orleans and

978
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: the Giants here in a game which I was following along,

979
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: I was watching it. I was following along in the

980
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: press box at the stadium in Kansas City.

981
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: It was there really really early.

982
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: And I was just following different games, and I just

983
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: would update it and be like, Drew Luck, oh for six,

984
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: Drew Luck, I'm like, did we.

985
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: Get a completion? Did we complete a ball in this

986
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 2: ball game?

987
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 5: It turns out like he came alive in the second

988
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 5: half a little bit and going twenty one to forty

989
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 5: nine down the stretch.

990
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: And he also he.

991
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: Had to have started out like oh for eight or something,

992
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 3: because I mean, I kept updating it as someone who's

993
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 3: not going to the Fantasy playoffs because I couldn't get

994
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: Molik Neighbors loose in that ball.

995
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: And that's why I want that's right.

996
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: If I actually I could actually tell you this because

997
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking.

998
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: At the game was over eight.

999
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 5: Drew was six for nineteen in the first half for

1000
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 5: fifty two yards, so he ended up completing fifteen passes

1001
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 5: in the second half. Shockingly, the Giant's had a chance

1002
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 5: to win this game, or at least tie this game

1003
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 5: at the end, and somehow didn't you know. The most

1004
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 5: notable thing that came out of this game is another

1005
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 5: unfortunate injury for Derek Carr.

1006
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: It's got a fracture in his hand.

1007
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 5: It sounds like and this is probably the end for

1008
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 5: Derek Carr this season in New Orleans. Happened on that

1009
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 5: play right there, the Saints blocked dere Rizzy. I'll tell

1010
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 5: you what, man, You know, here's one interim head coach

1011
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 5: who has not let his side of the ball slip right.

1012
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: So we talked about that a couple of times.

1013
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: They fired us.

1014
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 5: That special teams unit for New Orleans has stayed up,

1015
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 5: and they come up with a block field goal at

1016
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 5: the end on a chip shot from Graham Gano, and

1017
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 5: they preserve and get persevered, get the win, and now

1018
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 5: five and eight, and I guess not out of the playoff.

1019
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: Fun Buck, I'll leave you with this happy note here

1020
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: on the Giants side of things, I was just looking

1021
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: up some of the PFF ultimate numbers and going through

1022
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 3: the weekend, and I always look to see the leaders

1023
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: and see what stands out. So I'm looking at pressures

1024
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 3: for the week have you seen this rhet so Chase Young.

1025
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: Chase Young had twelve pressures that game, twelve, which was

1026
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 3: the most in the league. You know who was behind him,

1027
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: Carl Granderson, his teammate had eight. I'm gonna go out

1028
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: and lemon say the Giants offensive tackles were not very good.

1029
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: What I'm gonna say twenty pressures off the edge?

1030
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 5: Five years running now, we've been talking about this offensive

1031
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 5: line this way, like something's got to change.

1032
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: Well, I think one of my I think josh A

1033
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: Zuda was playing out there. But don't worry about that, Carolina,

1034
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 3: because Bill Belichick is gonna come come to North Carolina.

1035
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: We're going to start producing a little bit better product.

1036
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: Heels are.

1037
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that's right where we are.

1038
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: Maybe as a significant other that wants to go to grad.

1039
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: School, I don't know.

1040
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: Oh wow, rhtt you want to jump in here, Cincinnati, Dallas,

1041
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: you got some pressing thoughts on this one that.

1042
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 4: Would be a negative.

1043
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: Yes, that's Dallas. You're not fired up for this.

1044
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Alboys had been playing some better football.

1045
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: I mean, like, if you have the big ros get

1046
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: you fired up, doesn't that?

1047
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1048
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: And look it's another opportunity to watch. You know, the

1049
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 5: best quarterback that keeps going underappreciated right now, Joe Burrow

1050
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 5: because you know, his team just can't find a way

1051
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 5: to get wins and it's tough, but I love watching

1052
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow play this position. And man, anytime you get

1053
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 5: a chance to watch that dude spin it, it's it

1054
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 5: is certainly worth the price of admission.

1055
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, I'm interested.

1056
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 5: That's one I'll tune every time we get the Bengals

1057
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 5: on offense and the Cowboys on defense, Like let's go.

1058
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: Hey Buck real quick.

1059
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: You know what Burrow and Chase remind me of is

1060
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 3: and when, at least when we were growing up. I

1061
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: think the rules have changed. But with like high school basketball,

1062
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 3: so if you if you transferred back in the day,

1063
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: like you know, you still have to sit out right

1064
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 3: in high school, don't make you sit out.

1065
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: But back in our day, they could play JV.

1066
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: So you like, two of the best basketball players in

1067
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: the county, they transfer to your school, but they got

1068
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: to play in the JV game. Like that's like watching

1069
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 3: Burrow and Jamar Chase like gos, these guys are incredible.

1070
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: You know, it'd be fun to watch them play in

1071
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 3: the varsity game.

1072
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: They are They are unbelievable.

1073
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 6: They have a nice like synergy to connection Joe Burrow

1074
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 6: just running this offense. I mean people are talking about

1075
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 6: the defense, and rightfully so, but just doing it for

1076
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 6: the offense, like don't worry about the defense, like let

1077
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: them score so can get the ball back. But offensively, man,

1078
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 6: they do some fun stuff. It's a fun team to watch.

1079
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 6: That in itself makes it watchable the Monday night football

1080
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 6: game because you.

1081
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 4: Will see some points.

1082
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 6: You see this offense go up and down the field,

1083
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 6: even against the Cowboys defense.

1084
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 5: DJ, you're gonna watch The Simpsons all cast on Disney Plus.

1085
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. I never got into The Simpsons.

1086
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: I know.

1087
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: I'm probably rare for a no no.

1088
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 4: Like three of us group.

1089
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 2: Like I didn't.

1090
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want just the fact that the fact.

1091
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: That it was on for twenty plus years it is

1092
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 4: still on. I don't know like it just but it's running.

1093
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: I think in Living Color was on forward or after

1094
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: it right, I loved anything. I watch a Living Color

1095
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: every week, but I was not. I just know I'm

1096
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: not a I'm not I'm an adult. I don't watch cartoons.

1097
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: A cartoon any day.

1098
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, cartoon guy, look at us. Sounded like the old

1099
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: man on the pod.

1100
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: All right, it's fine, just get off our loan, all right,

1101
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: this is a fun one. I hope RHTT didn't win

1102
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: the rookie draft again. Well, I guess we'll find out tomorrow.

1103
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: I'm nervous. We have brock Bowers. Yeah, I don't know.

1104
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: Tune in tomorrow, Suit in the podcast tomorrow. Thanks for

1105
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: hanging with us. We'll see you next time. I'm moving sticks.