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Speaker 1: The biggest story of the day Mark Cuban, who recently
Speaker 1: announced he's leaving Shark Take. He's leaving Shark Tank. A
Speaker 1: week later announces he's selling a majority stake of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks to a casino tycoon for about three and
Speaker 1: a half billion. It's a unique setup. According to Sham's,
Speaker 1: Cuban keep shares in the team full control of basketball operations.
Speaker 1: So my first take is recent polling indicates Biden is
Speaker 1: not a viable candidate. And oh and Mark Cuban is
Speaker 1: to me a centrist, a left leaning centrist, and has
Speaker 1: an interest in it. There's no reason in one week
Speaker 1: to make these moves. My guess is it signals a
Speaker 1: political upheaval in the Democratic Party and Cuban could become
Speaker 1: a leading candidate with the vice president being selected by
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that is not what I thought you were
Speaker 2: gonna say. That is you just you sure you're not
Speaker 2: just watching too much Billions? That last season of Billions
Speaker 2: by my buddy Brian Koppelman kind of had this, except
Speaker 2: the guy who was running third running third party candidate.
Speaker 2: All right, so I don't I would say the fly
Speaker 2: in that ointment is, then why is he keeping basketball
Speaker 2: control in case he doesn't like in case he doesn't win,
Speaker 2: that way he can still have basketball. I mean, I
Speaker 2: did not think that's what you were Remember day.
Speaker 1: Altruistic bent to his personality, he created an online pharmacy
Speaker 1: that I think is one of the great inventions up
Speaker 1: there with TV and FaceTime. Totally agree with you, one
Speaker 1: of the great of our time. Who benefits older Americans,
Speaker 1: who votes older Americans. It's a very very powerful mechanism
Speaker 1: for relatability with older American voters who often can trend conservative.
Speaker 1: If you're getting if you're saving eight nine hundred bucks
Speaker 1: a month on a pharmacy buy based on Mark Cuban,
Speaker 1: that's powerful.
Speaker 2: Well, he listen, that's that's I think it's called cost
Speaker 2: plus drugs eighties. It's that I agree with you on
Speaker 2: that that that is one of the coolest and smartest
Speaker 2: UH innovations of the last decade. And he like it's
Speaker 2: not it isn't. Isn't pure altruism because they you know,
Speaker 2: they tell you we're gonna charge you what it costs
Speaker 2: US plus ten percent to make it a viable business.
Speaker 2: And it also gives you an idea of how much
Speaker 2: price gouging people deal with for medications and all those things.
Speaker 2: So I think that's great. I listen, I like Cuban,
Speaker 2: I didn't, you know, I don't know that him. I
Speaker 2: The thing on you know, the Biden part of it
Speaker 2: is is poll numbers are terrible. That's undeniable. I understand that.
Speaker 2: I also think from an accomplishment standpoint, he has been
Speaker 2: far more effective than people give him credit for. Now
Speaker 2: people can say it's been effective in a bad direction,
Speaker 2: like because you don't like the things he went out
Speaker 2: to accomplish, But for the things that he said he
Speaker 2: was going to accomplish, I think he's checked a lot
Speaker 2: of those boxes. The biggest listen, the problem for him,
Speaker 2: and I think the biggest thing that's turning his poll numbers.
Speaker 2: Is his vice president is unpushih popular for reasons we
Speaker 2: don't have to get into, but she is, and people
Speaker 2: are worried about his age. Now the guy running against him,
Speaker 2: in my humble opinion, is one of the most dangerous,
Speaker 2: unhinged people in modern American life and is damn near
Speaker 2: as old. So between the two, to me, it's a
Speaker 2: pretty obvious choice. I do understand where people would like
Speaker 2: a difference alternative option. I just assumed that would just
Speaker 2: if there were going to be an alternative option, I
Speaker 2: assumed it would be Gavin Newsom. I figured that's why
Speaker 2: he's doing this debate with DeSantis. But maybe he's trying
Speaker 2: to wait the Cuban trying to I mean, if you
Speaker 2: call this correct, that is an all timer. I don't like.
Speaker 2: That is not where my head went. I thought, I'll
Speaker 2: be totally honest. My initial head went to, like, is
Speaker 2: there a scandal that's coming? Like is he yeah? And
Speaker 2: I'm not wishing that upon him, But I'm just being
Speaker 2: totally honest, Like, Okay, you're getting away from Shark Tank,
Speaker 2: you're selling your share of the MAVs. Is something coming
Speaker 2: out that could put you at a very weakended position.
Speaker 1: That's probably if I had to guess a second take,
Speaker 1: that would be it.
Speaker 2: And if you have a deal with the new owner
Speaker 2: part of the sale, I get to control the team.
Speaker 2: That's kind of hard to unwind almost no matter what,
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't have sold you the team otherwise. What
Speaker 2: I will say is this because people don't you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure a fair amount of your viewers and listeners
Speaker 2: don't love my politics. That's fine. I think Cuban would
Speaker 2: be an excellent leader. I think Cuban and I think
Speaker 2: he is. I think there's a lot of I think
Speaker 2: there are a lot of rich people, like uber rich
Speaker 2: people that I am not sure how sharp they are. Like, eh, like,
Speaker 2: I think you probably were very smart about a very
Speaker 2: specific thing, and to your credit, right timing, rite whatever
Speaker 2: turn it into a ton of money. And far too
Speaker 2: many people treat those folks as brilliant visionaries when a
Speaker 2: m I have just been like, eh, that's pretty you know,
Speaker 2: good timing, and I'm really smart at this certain thing. Cuban,
Speaker 2: I've read enough things that he's said. I've seen him.
Speaker 2: He's been in my life for twenty something, in my life,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? In our lives for twenty
Speaker 2: some years. I'm pretty confident saying that's sharp guy to
Speaker 2: sharp guy. In also what I will say about whatever hope,
Speaker 2: because the overwhelming odds are the next president is either
Speaker 2: going to be you know, Joseph Robin at Biden or
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Whoever comes after either one of those guys,
Speaker 2: because neither one of them can run again. Now assuredly,
Speaker 2: if you know, if Trump wins, he will attempt to
Speaker 2: not ever have to run again, just to be president
Speaker 2: for life. There's a word for that. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is. Whoever comes after one of those guys,
Speaker 2: I really hope they are more of the moment, because
Speaker 2: I do think we are facing some real challenges from
Speaker 2: a technological standpoint of the world changing. And it's not
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to do like AI panic, but that's
Speaker 2: certainly a part of it AI. And just as the
Speaker 2: world evolves that it certainly feels like I don't need
Speaker 2: them to be AOC's age or my age. I think
Speaker 2: me and AOC about the same age. She's probably a
Speaker 2: little younger, but someone that you Colin Cowverd wouldn't feel
Speaker 2: like you had to call sir or ma'am or mister
Speaker 2: or missus, because they are so much older than you.
Speaker 2: I would like and so Cuban fits that. Bill Knews
Speaker 2: fits that bill. For the folks on the right side
Speaker 2: of the Aisle DeSantis fits that bill I do, I
Speaker 2: would like the younger. And by younger again, I just
Speaker 2: mean people my parents like, or a little younger than
Speaker 2: my parents, to have more of the because it's not
Speaker 2: just president, it's you know, up until recently, the Speaker
Speaker 2: of the House, the leader of the Senate. These are
Speaker 2: all you know, much much older folks that I'm not
Speaker 2: saying they're not sharp enough to understand what's happening. What
Speaker 2: I'm saying is there's a level of understanding things that
Speaker 2: you use or grew up with or something that is
Speaker 2: always going to be hard in the same way that
Speaker 2: I simply don't. I'm not good at TikTok and I'm
Speaker 2: really good at Twitter because I came up using Twitter,
Speaker 2: and TikTok was you know what I mean is the
Speaker 2: last five years and I'm like, ah, my teenage daughters
Speaker 2: gets it more than me. So yeah, but if Cuban
Speaker 2: runs for president, I mean that a that'd be a
Speaker 2: hell of a call by you, b you could probably
Speaker 2: convince him to create a cabinet of sports and make
Speaker 2: you the secretary of it, like you're you and Bill
Speaker 2: Simmons at arm wrestle over it. That'd be something else, man,
Speaker 2: that would be something else.
Speaker 1: So you know, last week we didn't talk a ton
Speaker 1: of sports, and I do have a non sports topic
Speaker 1: I'll get to, but there is a sports thing where.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: You know I've said before, we're all morally flexible. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're all morally flexible. We all speed. I drove about
Speaker 1: eighty getting to my house today. That I don't have
Speaker 1: a speeding ticket. You know, if I gone through a
Speaker 1: school district, I wouldn't. But it was all, like you know,
Speaker 1: just freeways and stuff. And it is interesting the position
Speaker 1: that I and you're not a big college football fan.
Speaker 1: But it's beyond that that I know Jim Harbaugh's program
Speaker 1: did something that appears to be deceptive, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: bother me. And the reason it doesn't bother me is because,
Speaker 1: and it's probably two or three different reasons. One, it's
Speaker 1: like taxes. If I write off a bottle of wine,
Speaker 1: I'm not the first, and I'm kind.
Speaker 2: Of a sucker.
Speaker 1: If I don't right, like, at some point you're like E.
Speaker 1: And the other thing about it is, I feel, deep
Speaker 1: down because this has been sourced multiple times, there's been
Speaker 1: so much cheating going on, and I don't think Harbaugh
Speaker 1: and Michigan's history indicates they ever bought players or skirted
Speaker 1: the system. But I sort of feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of people that are pissed off are Southern college football
Speaker 1: fans who now acknowledge, you know, Michigan and everybody can
Speaker 1: buy players too, and now the nil and transfer portal,
Speaker 1: it's even the playing field out. And I think that,
Speaker 1: combined with Harbaugh's unique personality, I'm rooting for Jim to
Speaker 1: not be punished too severely.
Speaker 2: Why listen, I agree with almost all of that, and
Speaker 2: so a few things. One is, it's also bad for
Speaker 2: college football if he's punished super severely, because it makes
Speaker 2: it more likely he leaves college football, and Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 2: is good for college football. Nobody benefits from Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 2: going to coach the Bears other than potentially the Bears,
Speaker 2: and so he's good for college football. I also don't
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of people out actually outraged by this.
Speaker 2: I think there are people that either at an axe
Speaker 2: to grind or have their own purposes served by Michigan
Speaker 2: being dinged, that are acting like they are deeply morally outraged.
Speaker 2: I'm not acting like there aren't moral outrages in sports.
Speaker 2: There are sometimes It almost always to me, involves off
Speaker 2: field violence, particularly off field violence towards people that can't
Speaker 2: really defend themselves. And I've never been one that's I'm
Speaker 2: not that outraged by when pre andil guys paid for players.
Speaker 2: I wasn't that outraged. I'm not that outraged by a
Speaker 2: pro athlete getting in a bar fight. There are different
Speaker 2: things though that everybody knows what they are where you're like, no,
Speaker 2: that's on the pale, and it makes me feel kind
Speaker 2: of scummy rooting for this guy or this team. And
Speaker 2: that's but this was not a hard one for me.
Speaker 2: It did not seem like now there are, And so
Speaker 2: we all have different lines. If the scandal was and
Speaker 2: maybe people will say, Nick, you're just drawing totally arbitrary lines,
Speaker 2: so be it. If this was the allegation at Michigan Stadium,
Speaker 2: at the Big House, they would systematically cut off the
Speaker 2: ability for the opposing team to communicate. Coach to quarterback
Speaker 2: in key moments. I would think that is a massive violation,
Speaker 2: that is to me, And again I don't know why
Speaker 2: that is category.
Speaker 1: There were camquarterers, it would have been very difficult to
Speaker 1: get those tickets that would have taken you a week.
Speaker 1: And camcorders set up in a room in an office, people,
Speaker 1: this is CD iPhone.
Speaker 2: It just isn't the same exactly right, And it also
Speaker 2: didn't it felt like whenever there is a system that
Speaker 2: is built around the assumption there is some level of cheating,
Speaker 2: that cheating existing doesn't bother me that much. And by
Speaker 2: that I mean the reason college football has four guys
Speaker 2: faces on a placard as a sign and then they
Speaker 2: change it up or all these things is because there
Speaker 2: is the assumption as some of our signs might be
Speaker 2: stolen at some point. Nobody thinks that's not happening. Ever,
Speaker 2: so this one didn't. I agree with you on this.
Speaker 2: This one didn't rise to the level of felony. Now,
Speaker 2: with that said, what did I don't want to say
Speaker 2: bother me, but at least I found a little irritating
Speaker 2: was Michigan acting like they are this persecuted, you know,
Speaker 2: totally innocent babe. In the Woods and the Michigan I
Speaker 2: understand in sports, but the Michigan versus everybody and this
Speaker 2: idea that they have been wronged. I don't think Michigan
Speaker 2: has been wronged. I don't think they're the victim. But
Speaker 2: I also don't think they victimized anyone on any substantial level.
Speaker 2: And I think this. I think they're the best college
Speaker 2: football team in the country. You're right. I don't watch
Speaker 2: nearly as much as you do, but I watch the
Speaker 2: biggest games, and I'm very familiar with the teams that
Speaker 2: are in the argument for the best college football team
Speaker 2: in the country. And I know Georgia fans are gonna
Speaker 2: be like, we haven't lost in three years, maybe it
Speaker 2: should be us. I get that. I think Michigan has
Speaker 2: just can can beat you in almost every way. I
Speaker 2: don't think that. I don't think they're gonna beat you
Speaker 2: forty nine to forty five. I understand that. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: their defense is too good, in my opinion, to let
Speaker 2: a game get to forty nine to forty five. And
Speaker 2: so I just I'm really impressed by them. I'm really
Speaker 2: impressed by them, and I'll be surprised if iowas scores
Speaker 2: seven points. I know that game's on Fox.
Speaker 1: Everyone should watch it, but I'll be surprised by residential system.
Speaker 1: Our judicial system has layers of crimes, like levels of crimes.
Speaker 1: And this, of course is like speeding. Yes, Jim went
Speaker 1: too fast and probably flipped the burden of maserati going
Speaker 1: ninety two at eighty in an Acura. It wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been outrageous, but it was kind of in your face,
Speaker 1: over the top if it's true. Right, it was a little,
Speaker 1: but it's still speeding. It's not it's not burglary.
Speaker 2: It's it is yeah, correct, this is this is at
Speaker 2: worse to use the judicial analogy the most severe misdemeanor.
Speaker 2: It does not qualify as like the least severe felony.
Speaker 2: This is at most like walking out of the supermarket
Speaker 2: and with something in your you know, doing the self
Speaker 2: checkout and being like, oh, I forgot the stuff at
Speaker 2: the bottom of my cart. I'm sorry, Like, yeah, you might.
Speaker 2: They might even give you a for it, but it's
Speaker 2: not for you probably don't need to hire an attorney.
Speaker 2: Like that's to me the level that that it was at.
Speaker 2: And also that's why your since your show does your
Speaker 2: pod and your show does the substantial mound of college football.
Speaker 2: You guys talked about it. We on my pod and
Speaker 2: on my TV show. We haven't talked about it once,
Speaker 2: like like, it's just not our like I don't think.
Speaker 2: But if it was a true scandal, it was, we would.
Speaker 2: We don't talk a ton of baseball. When the Astros
Speaker 2: thing was going on, we at least talked about that
Speaker 2: and what it meant. And again, that felt different. Maybe
Speaker 2: this is me sounding like an old man, but it
Speaker 2: felt different because there the allegation of using course like
Speaker 2: high level technology felt like it was different than you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, My my guy at second base
Speaker 2: can see the sign the catcher's giving and we got
Speaker 2: a little system built in. It just felt different.
Speaker 1: Let's piv to something else you talked about, But it
Speaker 1: was part of this the overstated anger often apparent on
Speaker 1: social media that doesn't exist. And so I've had this
Speaker 1: feeling forever that, for instance, very few people hate Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: He's sleepy, he would be picking on an old guy,
Speaker 1: but his poll numbers are plummeting, and I think I
Speaker 1: think it's inflation. I think it's very simply that I
Speaker 1: used to go to the grocery store, and it would
Speaker 1: be about fifty five dollars to get the twelve to
Speaker 1: fifteen items I go get once a week. It's now
Speaker 1: seventy three. I notice, well, what if your working class
Speaker 1: couple of kids long commute to work, gas prices up.
Speaker 1: That's the polling numbers. It's not that suddenly everybody hates
Speaker 1: Biden or everybody now has forgotten Trump and his past.
Speaker 1: It's simply the economy. But if you go to social media,
Speaker 1: it's nobody likes Joe Biden. It's not that it's overstated anger.
Speaker 1: And the truth is, if you go look at the
Speaker 1: history of our politics, for instance, the midterms, liberals did
Speaker 1: pretty well. Recent elections, liberals did well. I don't believe
Speaker 1: now suddenly it's going to be an avalanche to the right.
Speaker 1: What I believe is happening is our government's trying to
Speaker 1: get it under control. These are why the interest rates
Speaker 1: are so high. Inflation is worse than we're talking about.
Speaker 1: You and I are a bit in a bubble. But
Speaker 1: when I go to the grocery store or McDonald's. I
Speaker 1: drove via McDonald's the other day and I was with
Speaker 1: my step son and he goes have you gone there lately?
Speaker 1: And I said, I usually go in the summer. I'll
Speaker 1: go get some French fries when I want to assault high.
Speaker 1: And he said, it used to be thirteen and now
Speaker 1: you've got to break a second bill. Now it's twenty one.
Speaker 1: So you go from given a twenty and getting seven back.
Speaker 1: Do you have to give him a second bill? It
Speaker 1: pisses people off and so overstated anger. Now we can
Speaker 1: go back to sports. But I tend to think this
Speaker 1: is something I tell people all the time when you're
Speaker 1: creating a show, when you're acknowledging a problem, don't fall
Speaker 1: for anger that doesn't exist in your neighborhood. Very few things.
Speaker 1: The last thing that pissed people off that I remember
Speaker 1: was that submarine. The dad got his son on it
Speaker 1: and it blew up. That pissed a lot of parents off.
Speaker 1: That made me visceral reaction. I was mad at that dad.
Speaker 1: But by and large, Nick, I am probably outraged twice
Speaker 1: a year.
Speaker 2: That is it. Well, so this is interesting thing, and
Speaker 2: maybe this is a conversation in and of itself. And
Speaker 2: by the way, remind me at some point there's a
Speaker 2: lebron thing. I want to talk to you about not surprisingly,
Speaker 2: but they've just remind me at some point the I am.
Speaker 2: I am starting to because for a long time I
Speaker 2: was of the belief that too much of our colleagues
Speaker 2: and two more, much of media in general, is reacting
Speaker 2: to the loudest voices on social media and that that
Speaker 2: is not really what matters, and that the average person
Speaker 2: doesn't even know about it or care about all those things.
Speaker 2: That's kind of how I felt, and I felt a
Speaker 2: lot of people were treating Twitter like real life in
Speaker 2: ways they shouldn't. All those things. Here is my concern.
Speaker 2: I think we are approaching that it almost has become
Speaker 2: a self fulfilling prophecy in that you're right, people are
Speaker 2: not often that outraged. But if we are fed so
Speaker 2: much outraged and then we believe everyone is outraged, it
Speaker 2: then leads to that being real and in a weird way.
Speaker 2: And this is again I apologize I'm building quite the
Speaker 2: bridge here, But there was the story yesterday that Sports
Speaker 2: Illustrated what was Let's left the Sports Illustrated that some
Speaker 2: of their articles are being written by AI, fake people,
Speaker 2: AI headshots, AI stories, the whole line, and it's pretty
Speaker 2: outrageous and it's a really really sad stop, final stop
Speaker 2: for a once proud brand. And I just started thinking.
Speaker 2: I was like, god, damn man, like we are approaching
Speaker 2: somewhat rapidly, like they're not being any authoritative voices or
Speaker 2: publications that actually can set listen. Here are the things
Speaker 2: that matter, here's the bullshit. And if we lose those entirely,
Speaker 2: then what is the difference between what people are actually
Speaker 2: mad about and what social media or Twitter says everybody's
Speaker 2: mad about? That then sets the conversation, Like I I
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not explaining this perfectly, but I do
Speaker 2: wonder there's the right now. So there's a very dark
Speaker 2: corner of social media that is furious with Malika Andrews
Speaker 2: for no reason whatsoever. In my opinion, I think it's
Speaker 2: so wildly unfair, but it is so amplified and so
Speaker 2: in your face. If you if you even tipstep your
Speaker 2: toe into like NBA Twitter, does that actually now mean
Speaker 2: that's the reality? Like if there is is like for her,
Speaker 2: it's the reality, Like it's what she's dealing with. I'm
Speaker 2: now mentioning it. It's like even if it was all bullshit,
Speaker 2: if enough, if enough, there's enough amplification of the bullshit?
Speaker 2: Does that make the bullshit the real thing? And that that.
Speaker 3: Legit concerns I'm legitimately concerned by bad executives, and I
Speaker 3: don't think Fox has a very big number of these
Speaker 3: that are reactionary and think.
Speaker 1: It's the truth. So I think Malika Andrews is on
Speaker 1: a short list of six or seven people the single
Speaker 1: most talented person at ESPN. I think she's on a
Speaker 1: very short list. If I literally forget anything a singular
Speaker 1: host in the country, she'd probably be one or two.
Speaker 1: That's how highly I think of her.
Speaker 2: She I mean, this is gonna sound that and I'll
Speaker 2: let you finish. As arrogant as it is, She's one
Speaker 2: of the only people in the country younger than me
Speaker 2: that I'm like, God, dog, it might be more talented her.
Speaker 2: It hurts. It hurts my heart, Like I don't I
Speaker 2: don't want to say it, like I have no jealousy
Speaker 2: or bitterness towards anyone in the business older than me,
Speaker 2: because I'm like, ah, by the time i'm their age,
Speaker 2: I'll be better. But anyone younger than me, I'm like
Speaker 2: keeping track of them. I'm like, ah, where are they at?
Speaker 2: And so yeah, so we so we we agree on
Speaker 2: that this is where boss is really met deeply truly
Speaker 2: matter and where real for any we got a lot
Speaker 2: of I had a bunch of people respond to the
Speaker 2: discussion we did last week about local radio and media.
Speaker 2: I think media people, especially younger media people, appreciated some
Speaker 2: of the conversations we have, so those people are listening.
Speaker 2: This is one thing that I will tell you. If
Speaker 2: you are in the creative space and the no walking
Speaker 2: without a net space, which anyone doing live radio or
Speaker 2: television or anything live is, it really matters who your
Speaker 2: bosses are because you are going to step in it.
Speaker 2: We all step in it to varying degrees on varying things.
Speaker 2: And there are certain things that no matter how good
Speaker 2: your boss is, if you say something truly objectionable, nobody's
Speaker 2: gonna be able to save you. But there's gonna be
Speaker 2: times where people get really, really mad at you. And
Speaker 2: whether or not that scares them, whether or not they
Speaker 2: know this is a temporary moment and we will move
Speaker 2: past it. And whether or not they back you is
Speaker 2: as important as anything ever, as important as anything.
Speaker 1: You know you are one of the true opinionists in
Speaker 1: the country. Beyond me A lot of people are hosts
Speaker 1: who host shows, but they're not really opinionists.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: They don't want to be called out. I consider myself
Speaker 1: not an importance, but I consider myself Joe Rogan Stern,
Speaker 1: Bill Maher, Hannity Madow. I'm an opinionist that can break
Speaker 1: a story. I am not a host. You're not a host.
Speaker 1: We're opinionists. And research indicates seven to eight strong opinions
Speaker 1: a day over the course of a two to three
Speaker 1: hour show. Nobody's going seven to zero. In fact, if
Speaker 1: you are, you're taking safe opinions which will be punitively
Speaker 1: punishing you in the ratings. People listen to the guy
Speaker 1: at the sports bar who's got the strongest opinion. And
Speaker 1: you and I both are strong opinion people. So I
Speaker 1: was always looked at it when I I have not
Speaker 1: one time at Fox eight years, not one time as
Speaker 1: Fox ever said you know that opinion, not once, not
Speaker 1: with a mistake, not with an epinian.
Speaker 2: So that's something people don't know. So that's something the people.
Speaker 2: That's one of the bigger questions I get. And just
Speaker 2: to listen, not to give you know, our TV bosses,
Speaker 2: you know all they spend a ton of time giving
Speaker 2: them credit. But they on this note, I think they
Speaker 2: deserve a ton of credit. Which is one of the
Speaker 2: biggest questions I get, is like, ooh, you know Fox Sports,
Speaker 2: Fox News. Obviously the Murdoch family has pretty well known.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm breaking news here. Political feelings and
Speaker 2: leanings and whatever it is. How much does that impact
Speaker 2: what you guys say? And I tell them to honest
Speaker 2: to god truth, I've hosted my show for over six years.
Speaker 2: There has not been one email. There's not been one
Speaker 2: phone call. And now that's easy when we're just like, hey,
Speaker 2: who's going to win the super Bowl? But the show
Speaker 2: had just started in the midst of the Kaepernick stuff,
Speaker 2: Trump calling them sons of bitches. You know, a few
Speaker 2: years ago we were deep in it that when the
Speaker 2: bubble happened in the George Floyd protests. It's not like
Speaker 2: we are always just talking sports. We are talking about
Speaker 2: real stuff. And I have never once gotten a note
Speaker 2: on oh no, you can't what are you going to
Speaker 2: say on this? You can't say that? And that is
Speaker 2: and I do think there is the first time you
Speaker 2: get one of those, because this happened to me a
Speaker 2: different spot there is and it wasn't even about anything important.
Speaker 2: It was about what I would if what I was
Speaker 2: gonna say about the head coach of the Texans, the
Speaker 2: dumbest thing imaginable, but they're a partner in this or whatever.
Speaker 2: Once you get one of those, there is a chilling effect.
Speaker 2: There is like a oh am, I what I And
Speaker 2: then you can't fully be you. And I'm not even
Speaker 2: talking about when I say we're all gonna step in
Speaker 2: it just like have an opinion that you know has
Speaker 2: proven wrong or whatever. I'm talking about just doing live
Speaker 2: that's what you would. So you mentioned, uh matt Ou
Speaker 2: or mar that that there are some folks that are opinionists,
Speaker 2: but they have every second mapped down and their brilliance
Speaker 2: is making it appear they are delivering it.
Speaker 1: Like Relation Williams doing comedy.
Speaker 2: Yes, there you go, the and so, but they've actually
Speaker 2: planned it all out. You and I I think do
Speaker 2: it similarly, which is we have a skeleton of what
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about, and then it goes where
Speaker 2: where our brain goes and what is you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And sometimes that leads to screw ups or
Speaker 2: that leads to oh shoot ah, I forgot that whatever,
Speaker 2: And having people that you know will back you. Is
Speaker 2: to me, just critically, critically, critically.
Speaker 1: Four weeks ago, I was talking. A producer talked to
Speaker 1: me at the same time I was talking, and I
Speaker 1: butchered a word I didn't know because I couldn't hear
Speaker 1: me talking because a producer was talking. So it's just
Speaker 1: I always think one of the most amazing, amazingly difficult
Speaker 1: jobs is play by play of football. So you got
Speaker 1: three hours and you got you know, you got Greg
Speaker 1: Olsen up there with Burkehart. They got commercial reads, they've
Speaker 1: got the crowd, they have a sideline person, they have
Speaker 1: a director in their ear. Whenever I see criticism in
Speaker 1: a big game of a play by play announcer A Tarrico,
Speaker 1: A Nance, A Buck Burkhart, you have no idea how
Speaker 1: hard it is to do that game. It's I've I've
Speaker 1: been on those headsets. It makes my job look like
Speaker 1: a layup. And that's a three sixty wind mill dunk.
Speaker 2: So I, yeah, I can't imagine that. By the way,
Speaker 2: you have Greg. You have a relationship with Greg Olsen, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: please tell him it doesn't have to be on the air.
Speaker 2: I think he is and I have a I have
Speaker 2: a pretty high standard for color commentators in backball and
Speaker 2: football basketball the NBA vast majority of games I listened
Speaker 2: to on mute, I watch on mute like I get
Speaker 2: actively irritated by the commentary on most of the crews,
Speaker 2: not all of them. Football is way better, but there
Speaker 2: aren't a ton of color commentators that I think are
Speaker 2: truly adding. I think Greg is so sharp and I thought,
Speaker 2: like the other day, I forget even what game it was.
Speaker 2: It might have been a Thanksgiving game, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but we have the opportunity, the rare opportunity, the nerd
Speaker 2: dream of the white whale, that is the free kick,
Speaker 2: which is if you fair catch a punt, you can
Speaker 2: kick from where you fair caught with no rush off
Speaker 2: a tee. It's something I've heard about since I was
Speaker 2: a kid. I've never seen because you need it, you
Speaker 2: need have to be like a punt at the end
Speaker 2: of the half that didn't field goal range. And the
Speaker 2: moment it happened, I was like, oh my god, it
Speaker 2: could be a freak. And before I even had the
Speaker 2: thought out, Greg said it. Greg is I think. I
Speaker 2: think Greg and Burkhart are awesome. I think that I
Speaker 2: think the A teams. We're lucky as football fans that
Speaker 2: the the biggest games like the NBC team's great. I
Speaker 2: love I love collins Worth, I love his enthusiasm. Buck
Speaker 2: and Aikman. It's unbelievable that Buck and Aikman have now
Speaker 2: been together longer than Madden and Summer all were, which
Speaker 2: is it seems impossible in my head, but it's true. There.
Speaker 1: I think Tony best year.
Speaker 2: The Romo and Nance just had one of the best
Speaker 2: unscripted calls I can remember, not like a whin they
Speaker 2: win the game, this is what I'm gonna say. But
Speaker 2: the dron blaand picked six. He said this is history
Speaker 2: when he still had three guys to beat. Anyway, it
Speaker 2: wasn't history. He don't score and blaand picked him up
Speaker 2: by making those guys miss. Yeah. I mean our football
Speaker 2: crews are great, and I think Burkehart and Olsen are
Speaker 2: as good as anybody. I think they're excellent. And another
Speaker 2: guy you have on your show obviously we both love
Speaker 2: Stink who's great. But Sanchez is really sharp. I think
Speaker 2: Mark is really sharp and he has the second best
Speaker 2: Harrit Fox. I don't know who has the best, but
Speaker 2: he's really sharp, the volume