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Speaker 1: We'll dance around for fifty to fifty five minutes, all right, Nick.

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Speaker 1: The biggest story of the day Mark Cuban, who recently

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Speaker 1: announced he's leaving Shark Take. He's leaving Shark Tank. A

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Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks to a casino tycoon for about three and

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Speaker 1: a half billion. It's a unique setup. According to Sham's,

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Speaker 1: Cuban keep shares in the team full control of basketball operations.

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Speaker 1: So my first take is recent polling indicates Biden is

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Speaker 1: not a viable candidate. And oh and Mark Cuban is

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Speaker 2: Oh well, that is not what I thought you were

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Speaker 2: gonna say. That is you just you sure you're not

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Speaker 2: just watching too much Billions? That last season of Billions

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Speaker 2: by my buddy Brian Koppelman kind of had this, except

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Speaker 2: the guy who was running third running third party candidate.

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Speaker 2: All right, so I don't I would say the fly

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Speaker 2: in that ointment is, then why is he keeping basketball

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Speaker 2: that way he can still have basketball. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: did not think that's what you were Remember day.

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Speaker 1: Altruistic bent to his personality, he created an online pharmacy

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Speaker 1: that I think is one of the great inventions up

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Speaker 1: there with TV and FaceTime. Totally agree with you, one

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Speaker 1: of the great of our time. Who benefits older Americans,

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Speaker 1: for relatability with older American voters who often can trend conservative.

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Speaker 1: If you're getting if you're saving eight nine hundred bucks

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Speaker 2: Well, he listen, that's that's I think it's called cost

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Speaker 2: plus drugs eighties. It's that I agree with you on

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Speaker 2: I've read enough things that he's said. I've seen him.

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Speaker 2: as important as anything ever, as important as anything.

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Speaker 1: You know you are one of the true opinionists in

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Speaker 1: the country. Beyond me A lot of people are hosts

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Speaker 1: who host shows, but they're not really opinionists.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to be called out. I consider myself

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Speaker 1: not an importance, but I consider myself Joe Rogan Stern,

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Speaker 1: Bill Maher, Hannity Madow. I'm an opinionist that can break

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Speaker 1: a story. I am not a host. You're not a host.

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Speaker 1: We're opinionists. And research indicates seven to eight strong opinions

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Speaker 1: a day over the course of a two to three

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Speaker 1: hour show. Nobody's going seven to zero. In fact, if

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Speaker 1: you are, you're taking safe opinions which will be punitively

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Speaker 1: punishing you in the ratings. People listen to the guy

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Speaker 1: at the sports bar who's got the strongest opinion. And

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Speaker 1: you and I both are strong opinion people. So I

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Speaker 1: was always looked at it when I I have not

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Speaker 1: one time at Fox eight years, not one time as

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Speaker 1: Fox ever said you know that opinion, not once, not

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Speaker 1: with a mistake, not with an epinian.

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Speaker 2: So that's something people don't know. So that's something the people.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the bigger questions I get. And just

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Speaker 2: to listen, not to give you know, our TV bosses,

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Speaker 2: you know all they spend a ton of time giving

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Speaker 2: them credit. But they on this note, I think they

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Speaker 2: deserve a ton of credit. Which is one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest questions I get, is like, ooh, you know Fox Sports,

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Speaker 2: Fox News. Obviously the Murdoch family has pretty well known.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm breaking news here. Political feelings and

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Speaker 2: leanings and whatever it is. How much does that impact

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Speaker 2: what you guys say? And I tell them to honest

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Speaker 2: to god truth, I've hosted my show for over six years.

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Speaker 2: There has not been one email. There's not been one

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Speaker 2: phone call. And now that's easy when we're just like, hey,

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Speaker 2: who's going to win the super Bowl? But the show

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Speaker 2: had just started in the midst of the Kaepernick stuff,

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Speaker 2: Trump calling them sons of bitches. You know, a few

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Speaker 2: years ago we were deep in it that when the

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Speaker 2: bubble happened in the George Floyd protests. It's not like

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Speaker 2: we are always just talking sports. We are talking about

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Speaker 2: real stuff. And I have never once gotten a note

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Speaker 2: on oh no, you can't what are you going to

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Speaker 2: say on this? You can't say that? And that is

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Speaker 2: and I do think there is the first time you

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Speaker 2: get one of those, because this happened to me a

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Speaker 2: different spot there is and it wasn't even about anything important.

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Speaker 2: It was about what I would if what I was

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Speaker 2: gonna say about the head coach of the Texans, the

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Speaker 2: dumbest thing imaginable, but they're a partner in this or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Once you get one of those, there is a chilling effect.

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Speaker 2: There is like a oh am, I what I And

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Speaker 2: then you can't fully be you. And I'm not even

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Speaker 2: talking about when I say we're all gonna step in

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Speaker 2: it just like have an opinion that you know has

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Speaker 2: proven wrong or whatever. I'm talking about just doing live

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Speaker 2: that's what you would. So you mentioned, uh matt Ou

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Speaker 2: or mar that that there are some folks that are opinionists,

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Speaker 2: but they have every second mapped down and their brilliance

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Speaker 2: is making it appear they are delivering it.

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Speaker 1: Like Relation Williams doing comedy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there you go, the and so, but they've actually

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Speaker 2: planned it all out. You and I I think do

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Speaker 2: it similarly, which is we have a skeleton of what

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about, and then it goes where

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Speaker 2: where our brain goes and what is you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? And sometimes that leads to screw ups or

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Speaker 2: that leads to oh shoot ah, I forgot that whatever,

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Speaker 2: And having people that you know will back you. Is

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Speaker 2: to me, just critically, critically, critically.

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Speaker 1: Four weeks ago, I was talking. A producer talked to

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Speaker 1: me at the same time I was talking, and I

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Speaker 1: butchered a word I didn't know because I couldn't hear

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Speaker 1: me talking because a producer was talking. So it's just

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Speaker 1: I always think one of the most amazing, amazingly difficult

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Speaker 1: jobs is play by play of football. So you got

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Speaker 1: three hours and you got you know, you got Greg

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Speaker 1: Olsen up there with Burkehart. They got commercial reads, they've

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Speaker 1: got the crowd, they have a sideline person, they have

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Speaker 1: a director in their ear. Whenever I see criticism in

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Speaker 1: a big game of a play by play announcer A Tarrico,

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Speaker 1: A Nance, A Buck Burkhart, you have no idea how

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Speaker 1: hard it is to do that game. It's I've I've

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Speaker 1: been on those headsets. It makes my job look like

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Speaker 1: a layup. And that's a three sixty wind mill dunk.

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Speaker 2: So I, yeah, I can't imagine that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: you have Greg. You have a relationship with Greg Olsen, right, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: please tell him it doesn't have to be on the air.

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Speaker 2: I think he is and I have a I have

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Speaker 2: a pretty high standard for color commentators in backball and

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Speaker 2: football basketball the NBA vast majority of games I listened

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Speaker 2: to on mute, I watch on mute like I get

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Speaker 2: actively irritated by the commentary on most of the crews,

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Speaker 2: not all of them. Football is way better, but there

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Speaker 2: aren't a ton of color commentators that I think are

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Speaker 2: truly adding. I think Greg is so sharp and I thought,

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Speaker 2: like the other day, I forget even what game it was.

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Speaker 2: It might have been a Thanksgiving game, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but we have the opportunity, the rare opportunity, the nerd

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Speaker 2: dream of the white whale, that is the free kick,

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Speaker 2: which is if you fair catch a punt, you can

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Speaker 2: kick from where you fair caught with no rush off

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Speaker 2: a tee. It's something I've heard about since I was

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Speaker 2: a kid. I've never seen because you need it, you

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Speaker 2: need have to be like a punt at the end

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Speaker 2: of the half that didn't field goal range. And the

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Speaker 2: moment it happened, I was like, oh my god, it

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Speaker 2: could be a freak. And before I even had the

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Speaker 2: thought out, Greg said it. Greg is I think. I

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Speaker 2: think Greg and Burkhart are awesome. I think that I

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Speaker 2: think the A teams. We're lucky as football fans that

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Speaker 2: the the biggest games like the NBC team's great. I

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Speaker 2: love I love collins Worth, I love his enthusiasm. Buck

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Speaker 2: and Aikman. It's unbelievable that Buck and Aikman have now

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Speaker 2: been together longer than Madden and Summer all were, which

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Speaker 2: is it seems impossible in my head, but it's true. There.

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Speaker 1: I think Tony best year.

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Speaker 2: The Romo and Nance just had one of the best

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Speaker 2: unscripted calls I can remember, not like a whin they

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Speaker 2: win the game, this is what I'm gonna say. But

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Speaker 2: the dron blaand picked six. He said this is history

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Speaker 2: when he still had three guys to beat. Anyway, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't history. He don't score and blaand picked him up

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Speaker 2: by making those guys miss. Yeah. I mean our football

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Speaker 2: crews are great, and I think Burkehart and Olsen are

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Speaker 2: as good as anybody. I think they're excellent. And another

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Speaker 2: guy you have on your show obviously we both love

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Speaker 2: Stink who's great. But Sanchez is really sharp. I think

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Speaker 2: Mark is really sharp and he has the second best

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Speaker 2: Harrit Fox. I don't know who has the best, but

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Speaker 2: he's really sharp, the volume