1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: CAFI AM six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose sitting in for John Cobelt today. John will 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 3: be back on Monday. Rough day in Los Angeles seven 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: thirty this morning, an explosion at the Los Angeles Sheriff's 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 3: Departments training center in East LA. Three Los Angeles County 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 3: Sheriff's deputies were killed and at press conference earlier today, 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 3: heard live here on KFI, let's go to the KFI 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: twenty four hour newsroom. Michael Months has the latest. Michael 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 3: a visibly shaken sheriff today for sure. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: And no question about it. Lou. 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 4: He did break down, almost started to cry at one 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 4: point when he talked about the conversations that he had 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 4: had with at least two of the three families that 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 4: lost a loved one who worked within the La County 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 4: Sheriff's Department. This was something that happened at about seven 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: point thirty this morning at a training facility in East LA. 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 4: Still unclear what led to this explosion. Still unclear what 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: these folks were doing at the time of the explosion. 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 4: But what we know is that this training facility in 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 4: East Los Angeles is where the La County Sheriff's Department 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: keeps its Special Enforcement Bureau and also it's Arson and 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 4: Explosives team. Luna said that these are highly skilled individuals. 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 4: Here's part of what he said just moments ago at 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: a news conference. 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: These aren't people who don't do this very often. 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 5: They are fantastic experts, and unfortunately I lost three of 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 5: them today and as you can imagine, those were extremely 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 5: challenging conversations. Our intent is to look at this from 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 5: the very beginning and figure out what is it exactly 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 5: that caused this tragic event. Simply right now, I wanted 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 5: to get out here. I know all of you had 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 5: been waiting for a while. I'm giving you the information 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 5: I have, and we're not there yet. 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: So basically, he was able to confirm what had been 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: speculated all morning that these were three people who died, 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: three people who worked for the Sheriff's department. But as 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: for the scope of the investigation, it is large. There 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: are a lot of local and federal agencies on scene. 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: But we don't have a lot of details to share 41 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: yet because they've not been released publicly. 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: And the sheriff made that clear that he wanted to 43 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 3: get out quickly to assure the city that the conditions 44 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: were safe going forward. 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: And I think that is to be applauded, right, that's. 46 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: The first order of business, to make sure that life 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: and property is safe going forward, and to acknowledge the 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: loss of three sheriff's deputies. 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: But a lot of questions about what were we talking about? 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: The term is undetonated ordinances recovered the night before, from where, 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: what level of ordinance? 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: And why were they recovered? 53 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: I mean, those are really important questions to be answered, 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: and he said those quite Those answers don't come in hours, 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: they come in days. 56 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: And it's particularly curious because he emphasized that these were 57 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 4: folks with decades of experience. One worked for nineteen years, 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: another for twenty two years, another for thirty three years. 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 4: So these weren't rookies making a rookie mistake. So that's 60 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 4: why everyone is anxiously awaiting further details about what exactly 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: was going on, what were the circumstances, and what exactly 62 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 4: was that explosive device that they were apparently handling. This morning, 63 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 4: I heard. 64 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: The sheriff mentioned that obviously the Los Angeles Fire Departments 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: Arson team is involved as well as the FEDS. The 66 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: ATF is that standard protocol or is there an ATF 67 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: field office here in Los Angeles? 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: Obviously there is, but are they brought in immediately? 69 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: It sounds like there were multiple pieces of this investigation. 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: Even the homicide Bureau is there, and so when you 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: hear homicide bureau, it kind of sticks in your head, like, 72 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: wait a second, what kind of investigation is this? That's 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: also standard? So the reasons behind why law enforcement agencies 74 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: handle investigations this way. I'm not a law enforcement guy. 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly, but something exploded, it involved law enforcement, 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: and so the federal government got involved very quickly. The 77 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: Attorney General, Pam Bondi, was on social media almost immediately 78 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: saying that she'd been in contact with US Attorney Bill A. 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: Saley that FBI agents and other federal agents were going 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: to be on the scene to help investigate. Sheriff Luna 81 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: says he welcomed this, but there might be multiple pieces 82 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: to evaluate here, the nature of the explosion, where the 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: device came from. Does this investigation lead somewhere off site? 84 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: Could there be federal charges? That's all stuff they're not 85 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: going to be able to tell us, as you noted. Yes, 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: what Sheriff Luna did is he wanted to get out 87 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 4: and give us what he could. 88 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: That the content of that. 89 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: Press briefing that he gave just before twelve o'clock is 90 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: about what we expected. We didn't expect all of the details. 91 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 4: We want all of the details, we did not expect them. 92 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: He could not even publicly identify yet the three people 93 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 4: who died because it's possible, he says that some members 94 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: of their families have not yet been notified. So this 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 4: happened quickly, it's developing quickly, but he wanted to slow 96 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: down the release of that information. 97 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: I guess what we can glean that they were moving 98 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: under det ordinances is that the explosives were already there, right, 99 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: somebody didn't drive by and throw a grenade through a window. 100 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: They were already there. 101 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: So that at least that can help calm some concerns 102 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: that somebody tried to attack the Sheriff's training facility. 103 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: And that's where this would be. 104 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 4: This is a training facility that has that special Enforcement Bureau, 105 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 4: that has the arson and Explosive team that Sheriff Luna 106 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: says he is elite full of veterans like the three 107 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 4: that the county lost today. But you also have to 108 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 4: keep in mind the environment that we're living in politically, 109 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 4: it's very volatile, especially when it involves law enforcement. And 110 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: just yesterday, Sheriff Luna had a press conference explaining to 111 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: the media and the public why the county jails were 112 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 4: handing over illegal immigrant inmates to the federal government for 113 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: the first time in years in order to comply with 114 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: federal warrants. And as everyone knows, tensions are high here 115 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: on the issue of illegal immigration and people who are 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 4: demonstrating against the federal enforcement again them and questions around 117 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 4: what role law enforcement agencies locally are playing in that execution. 118 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 4: So when you hear about an explosion at a local 119 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 4: law enforcement facility, you would be forgiven if your mind 120 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 4: went somewhere dark first. 121 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: And I think we all felt that way. 122 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: I certainly did, I speaking for myself, and i'd bemoan 123 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: that state of mind, and I hope we all do that. 124 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: We would even that our minds would go there to 125 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: think this might have been some kind of domestic violence 126 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: that was erupted out of the concerns that we have 127 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: over illegal immigration enforcement. But that's where we are all right, well, 128 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: stay right there, Michael Monts is in the twenty four 129 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: hour KFI newsroom because I want to talk a little 130 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: bit about that. Yesterday we did hear from the Sheriff's 131 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: Department that, in fact, the coordination with immigration and Customs 132 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: enforcement is beginning to take shape, and a bit of 133 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: a victory dance in Sacramento by one of the Border 134 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: Patrol agents who effectively said, there is no such animal 135 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: as a sanctuary city, and you need to get used 136 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: to it. So we'll talk about that coming up next. 137 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose on KFI AM six forty Info. John Cobelt 138 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: heard everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Now let's get to 139 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: the KFI twenty four hour newsroom and Debora Mark. 140 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 141 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 6: six forty. 142 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: Loup Penrose Info, John co Belt on k I AM 143 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: six forty No Choice. That's the characterization and the exact 144 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: words from Los Angeles Sheriff's Department Chief Robert Luna on 145 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: the issue of coordinating with immigration and Customs enforcement. A pivot, 146 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: if you will, from the idea of Los Angeles being 147 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: a sanctuary from federal immigration law Michael Muntz joined us 148 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: again from the twenty four hour KFI newsroom. Michael, this 149 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: has been, at least from the position of the federal government, 150 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,559 Speaker 3: a long time coming, but now we're here. 151 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: At least from the top cop in the Sheriff's department. 152 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: Local law enforcement officials have law contended that they do 153 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: not cooperate with federal immigration efforts, and that has also 154 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: been a point of contention among a lot of the 155 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: activists here, especially the ones who have demonstrated against illegal 156 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: immigration enforcement in Los Angeles and the surrounding area. They 157 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: have suspected that the LAPD and the Sheriff's department are 158 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: on the side of federal immigration officials, and in spite 159 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: of the fact that the sheriff and the police chief 160 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: have both said that that is not our function, that 161 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: is not what we do. The La County Sheriff's Department 162 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 4: has not transferred their prisoners to federal immigration officials since 163 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, but that has changed in recent months. In 164 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: May and June, the jails started to hand people over again. 165 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: Like you said, Sheriff Luna says, there's no choice. But 166 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: as he said yesterday in his news conference, these are 167 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: the types of illegal immigrants that more people seem to 168 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 4: be okay with having deported. Let's hear what he said. 169 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: We have and what we will continue to honor federal 170 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 5: judicial warrants. These warrants are an effective and peaceful vehicle 171 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 5: in transferring individuals who have committed violent or serious crimes. 172 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 5: To date, we have transferred twenty individuals under these specific circumstances. 173 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 5: Most of these individuals have had serious or violent charges 174 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 5: such as attempted murder, robbery, rape, and sexual battery. 175 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: So that's a different scenario, lou than some of the 176 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: more sympathetic cases that a lot of people have pointed 177 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 4: to as overreach in this immigration enforcement effort. This is 178 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 4: in somebody's abuela being taken off Broadway Street while selling 179 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 4: fruit cups. Right, These are some suspected violent criminals that 180 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: are also in the country illegally. 181 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: And I've heard US Attorney Billy Sally, actually I heard 182 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: him here on CANFI say, Look, if I find somebody 183 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: that is in custody in Los Angeles and they have 184 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: committed federal crimes and illegal reentry is in fact a felony, 185 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: So it could be as simple as that, but it's 186 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: way beyond that, in a lot of these cases, I 187 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: can send my men down to the jail house at 188 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: the sheriff's department and they have to, by federal law, 189 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: turn them over. So maybe this was always the case, 190 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: it just hasn't been practiced yet. 191 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 4: There's certainly a higher level of immigration enforcement under the 192 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 4: Trump Department of Justice and the associated departments that are 193 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: in enforcing these policies. It was a lot more lax 194 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: under the presidency of Joe Biden. So one area that 195 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: does appear to still be of concern to Sheriff Luna 196 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: is beyond these more violent suspects, there is apparently a directive, 197 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 4: a letter coming from the Department of Justice to county 198 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: sheriffs across California that says, we want the information on 199 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: all of the illegal immigrants that are currently in your custody. 200 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: Sheriff Luna and his news conference yesterday says, we have 201 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: not receive that letter yet. When we do get that letter, 202 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: we will review it. We'll have the attorneys review it. 203 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: He wants to comply, I suppose with with federal law, 204 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 4: but he also says we don't keep track of that. 205 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: It's they don't necessarily arrest somebody on whatever charge and say, 206 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 4: by the way, are you here legally? So they don't 207 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: have that notation in anyone's file. The folks that he's 208 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: handed over to the federal government, these are folks who 209 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: have been named specifically by federal agents that this is 210 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: a guy or a goal that we want because they're 211 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 4: on our list, and so they've been handed over, but 212 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 4: just general list of illegal immigrants currently in jail. 213 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: The sheriff says, we don't have that. Yeah, and I'm 214 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: not surprised. 215 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: I honestly think the sheriff and his team are caught 216 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: here because for years, as a matter of best practices, 217 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: at least in Los Angeles. Yeah, you're right, there isn't 218 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: a you know, an eye block for illegal right, they're 219 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: just all they're all in the same place. 220 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: It's not like they're in a separate category. 221 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: And their immigration status was not a concern for Los 222 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: Angeles County. And now you have the federal government coming 223 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: in and saying we want all the information and all 224 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: the records, and we want you to turn over the 225 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: custody of all the people that are in your possession 226 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: and in the country illegally, And the Sheriff's department is saying, 227 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: I mean, don't If you have that information, you can 228 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: tell us, But we don't have that information, and under 229 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: state law we're not able to We are not allowed 230 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: to like enumerate prisoners as such. 231 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Isn't that pretty much it? 232 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's a couple of reasons for that. 233 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: One. 234 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 4: The it's not really the function of local law enforcement 235 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 4: to enforce immigration policy. You may have more sympathetic law 236 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: enforcement agencies in different parts of the country that are 237 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 4: more willing to cooperate with federal agencies, certainly, but none 238 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: of them are arresting an a legal immigrant on a 239 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 4: deportation charge and then executing that deportation. That is the 240 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: role of the federal government. Secondarily the sheriff and the 241 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 4: police department. What they contend is, look, we are here 242 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: to keep the peace, we investigate crimes. We need cooperation 243 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: from all of these folks. So we can't have a 244 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: community of illegal immigrants afraid of helping us find bad guys. 245 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,359 Speaker 4: So they need to know, they need to feel comfortable 246 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: that we're not going to ask about their immigration status 247 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 4: so that they can help us find a murderer, a burglar, 248 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 4: a car thief, or something along those lines. 249 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: Michael Monster, thanks so much, busy day. I appreciate you 250 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 3: spending some time with us to give us all the 251 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: update on on both those stories. I'm both the Sheriff's 252 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: department's of reaction to not having a choice and also, 253 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: of course this tragic explosion earlier today, seven thirty this morning, 254 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: three Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies lost their life in 255 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: this explosion. As the investigation continues, all right, when we 256 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: come back, So with respect to that point of view 257 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: that the Sheriff's Department has and the sheriff that, look, 258 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: we have no choice but to cooperate with the federal 259 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: government when they come to us. And this, and Michael 260 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: Munks mentioned it, there is this talk of a memo 261 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: that's being prepared out of the US Justice Department being 262 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: sent out to Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Fresno, Sacramento, Chicago, everywhere, 263 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: New York, Austin, Texas, effectively saying you have thirty days 264 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: to give us the names and the information on everybody 265 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: that you have in your custody in your city and 266 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: your state, in your town and your municipality that is 267 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: in the country illegally and we want that information in 268 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: thirty days, so that memo, I understand. 269 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: Is being prepared. 270 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: But there's a new twist to this all. And you 271 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: saw it yesterday in Sacramento. There was a raid in Sacramento, 272 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: a coordinated rate between Immigration and Customs enforcement and Border 273 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: patrol and local authorities, and they apprehended five people and 274 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: the headline was four illegal immigrants and one US citizen 275 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: arrested at a local ICE ray in downtown Sacramento, in 276 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: our state's capital. And what they don't tell you, they 277 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: make it sound like, oh man, that now they're there, 278 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: when they're they're throwing a net and they're capturing US citizens, this. 279 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: Is no good. What they don't tell you is. 280 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: The US citizen indeed was arrested along with the legal 281 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: aliens that were targeted in the raid. But it wasn't 282 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: because of a mistake. It was because the US citizen 283 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: was slashing the tires of the ICE units and eventually 284 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: assaulted one of the federal agents. 285 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: Which is a crime. 286 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: Now it isn't an immigration crime, but it is a 287 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: federal crime to damage an ICE vehicle and to assault 288 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: a federal agent. But like you have to really dig 289 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: deep in the story, or sometimes it's left out of 290 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: the story altogether, particularly when television news puts these things 291 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: on on social media. So we need to kind of 292 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: explore that a little bit, and we'll do that coming 293 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: up next. KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere on the 294 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. Loup Penrose in for John Cobelt on KFI. 295 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 6: And you're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI 296 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 297 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt today on The John 298 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: Cobelt Show. The word chaos is being used a lot 299 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: by Democrat lawmakers in Los Angeles. The Governor Gavenussen uses 300 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: the word chaos a lot the chaotic way that ICE 301 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: is conducting themselves in California. 302 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: But that isn't the right word. 303 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: I've been watching this now for a number of weeks, 304 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: and the scenes surrounding these law enforcement operations are not chaotic. 305 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: They are I mean, the best word that I can 306 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: come up with is immature. 307 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: There's a lot of immaturity on the part of the 308 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: people that want to involve themselves in these law enforcement procedures, 309 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: and it's getting less and less mature. The agents roll 310 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: up with a signed warrant looking for an individual and 311 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: sometimes incur they encounter other illegal activity going on. But 312 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: then you have actual legal residents who don't want the 313 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: ICE agents to enforce the law, and they start behaving 314 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: in the most immature way. Some of them cross the 315 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: line and throw rocks and bricks at ICE vehicles. Some 316 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: of them then go so far as to slash the 317 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: tires of the ICE vehicles. Not while the truck is 318 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: parked overnight, you know, at the holiday inn in Rancho Cucamunga, 319 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: but right there in front of the ICE agent, they 320 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 3: stick a knife into the truck tire and then they 321 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: get tackled, and then their screaming girlfriend starts losing her mind, 322 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: and it's all It looks chaotic, but it isn't really chaotic. 323 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: There is a huge amount of immaturity in Los Angeles, 324 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: in the community of the people that are mad that 325 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: the ICE agents are conducting these these arrests, these deportations. 326 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 3: Here here's well, all right, let's go. Let's go to 327 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: the one because this was my favorite one. This was 328 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: yesterday in Sacramento, and we have this all on tape 329 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: because Bill Malusion of Fox News did a ride along 330 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 3: and they were conducting a stop and a detainment and 331 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: effectively a processing for deportation of individuals that these ICE 332 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: agents had signed warrants to go get. And then some 333 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: bystander who doesn't like ICE but is apparently an American, 334 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 3: slashes the tires and so then they tackle him, and 335 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: then his girlfriend starts screaming at the ICE agents let 336 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: him go. 337 00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: He's an American citizen. 338 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: I have to bleep out so much of it because 339 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: she has a real potty mouth. But he's saying stay back, 340 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: and she sang for what, And. 341 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: He says he's being arrested. 342 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 7: He slashed our tires, And she's screaming like a maniac. 343 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: Catch that she's she's calling law enforcement traders because they 344 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: are doing their job, executing a warrant and now arresting 345 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: the US citizen that wants to get involved and be 346 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: mister helper and slashes the tires right in front of 347 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 3: the ICE agent. See that's not chaotic, that's immaturity. There 348 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: is a huge immaturity problem. Here's another, mister helper. 349 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: I can say whatever I want, you want, I. 350 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: Can, and I can record so they can. 351 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: No, they don't have to tell you anything. 352 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: OK, thank you How'm a US citizen to say whatever 353 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: I want And I'm gonna record everything you guys are. 354 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: Doing and I don't care. And that was earlier this 355 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: week in Downy. This is some woman. She's in her car. 356 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: She's driving around with one hand on the steering wheel, 357 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 3: on the other hand on her phone, and the passenger 358 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: side window is down, and she's getting into an argument 359 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: with law enforcement, saying I can do whatever I want. 360 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: And then you hear the guy He's like, yeah, you 361 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: can do whatever you want over there. You can continue 362 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: to record over there. If you get in our way, 363 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: you will be breaking the law and then we'll arrest you. 364 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: And they all lose their mind. And that's the word. 365 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 3: It's immaturity. These people are immature. The illegals are very mature. 366 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: You know what the mature thing to do when you 367 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: see an ice ban roll up into the parking lot 368 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: of the home depot split That is smart. 369 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: So I do give the illegals credit. 370 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 3: They are smart enough to run, run like Forrest gump Man, 371 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: don't stop, don't look back. So at least the illegal 372 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna get caught, but at least the 373 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: illegal aliens are mature. It is their girlfriend or their wife, 374 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: or their friend from church or whatever. These are the 375 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: immature people that are bothering and harassing the cops as 376 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: if it's gonna matter. So you're wasting your time. I mean, 377 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: keep filming if you want. I don't know what you 378 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: think you're gonna do, but you're gonna frustrate yourself and 379 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: then you're not gonna be able to help yourself because 380 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: you are in fact immature, and you're gonna wind up 381 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: slashing a tire or standing in front of the truck 382 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: or throwing a rock at a truck, and then you're 383 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: gonna be in jail. Here's my favorite one. This is well, 384 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: he identifies himself. 385 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: This is in Bell Gardens. 386 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: This is earlier this week, and he identifies himself as 387 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 3: I don't know if it is the mayor or not. 388 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to be smirched the mayor, but you 389 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: never know. Some of these elected officials are pretty stupid. 390 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 3: Remember the cut a hay girl. 391 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: You guys gotta get out of here. 392 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 8: Let's go. 393 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: You guys don't belong here. Who are you, guys? Who 394 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: are you? 395 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 9: Guys? Hey, who are you guys? Who are you? I'm 396 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 9: the mayor of the city. Get out. What are you 397 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 9: guys doing here? Who are you? What's your name, what's 398 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 9: your badge number? Identify yourself, you work for the people. 399 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if that is actually the mayor of 400 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 3: Bell Gardens. Somebody said that it sounded like him. That's 401 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: pretty immature. You have the mayor. 402 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: If it's true, it's the mayor of the city. Even 403 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: if it's not true. 404 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: The person thought that the ice agents would shudder at 405 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: the thought that the mayor is out telling them to 406 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 3: go away, So they thought that would work. But like, 407 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: when have you ever seen a Democrat mayor or county 408 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: supervisor go to a crowd of illegals at a day 409 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 3: labor center and say, hey, get out of here, scram 410 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: what are you doing here? 411 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: You don't belong here. When have you ever heard a 412 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: Democrat mayor or a county. 413 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: Supervisor go to where homeless people are and say, get 414 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: out of here, scram what are you doing? You don't 415 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: belong here. But he goes up to an ice truck 416 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: and acts like that he's the king. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. By 417 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: the way they got those four people that drove nails 418 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 3: into the ice trucks overnight. You want to talk about immaturity, 419 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 3: Listen to the ages of the four people arrested for 420 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: defacing and flattening a number of ice SUVs. Gennaro or 421 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: stow Ayella age forty three, Danielle Montenegro, age thirty, Sadat 422 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: Jenarka age fifty four, fifty four years old, and you're 423 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: out there damaging ice vehicles. 424 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: This is immaturity. 425 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: Loup Penrose infa John Cobelt on KFI and six forty 426 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 427 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 428 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 6: six forty. 429 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt today. John will be 430 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: back with you on Monday. So the plan for Pacific Palisades, 431 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: at least the Democrat plan out of Sacramento sponsored by 432 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: Senator Allen to effectively turn Pacific Palisades into the projects 433 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: that's been tabled for now. 434 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 8: Senator Allen sending out a statement, Sandy appreciates the feedback 435 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 8: and that it would be best for us to pause 436 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 8: the bill until next year to get us more time 437 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 8: to see if we can get it right. 438 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 9: Just give us our homes back and protect us from fire. 439 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Jessica Rogers. 440 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 3: She's president of the Pacific Palisades Resident Association. Matthew Seedorf 441 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: from Fox eleven with the story there. 442 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 8: Senate Bill five point forty nine, the proposal already passed 443 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 8: by the state Senate, would allow LA County to make 444 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 8: a so called Resilient Rebuilding Authority Group. The goal would 445 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 8: be to address housing shortage issues, but it would also 446 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 8: buy fire destroyed loss and rebuild a percentage of them 447 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 8: as low income housing. 448 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 3: Oh boy, low income housing. That sounds wonderful. That's just 449 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: what you want to live next to. So everybody that 450 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 3: lives there or that had a residence there, they just want. 451 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: To go back to the way it was. 452 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 3: Just give us the ability and approve the plans for 453 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 3: us to rebuild the single family residences that we had here. 454 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: There is no reason to repurpose Pacific Palisades into the projects. 455 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 3: And it's interesting the word used by Senator Allen. He 456 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 3: said that he wants to effectively shelve the idea of 457 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 3: Senate Bill five forty nine for now until next year 458 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: to quote get it right. And I'm here to tell 459 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: you I know these people like the back of my hand. 460 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: When it comes to housing in Sacramento, Democrats don't think 461 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: like you homeowners do. Many of the Democrats in Sacramento 462 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: that work on and vote for legislation are not homeowners, 463 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 3: never been a homeowner. I mean, I think that is 464 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 3: lost upon a lot of Californians. Just how unqualified most 465 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 3: of the legislature in Sacramento is to effectively create policy 466 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: over most of our lives. 467 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: Most of the Democrats have never had a job, like 468 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: not like a real job. 469 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 3: They were a staffer for a Democrat mayor, or they 470 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 3: were a staffer for a Democrat board a supervisors person, 471 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: and then they ran for the local school board. And 472 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: then they while they were working on the while they 473 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 3: were on the school board, they were a staffer in 474 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: some other assembly member's office, and you know, the then 475 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: worked on a campaign and got half paid in campaign funds, 476 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: and then they worked their way up and now all 477 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 3: of a sudden, the middle of the state legislature and 478 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 3: they're saying, you know what we ought to do with 479 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: Pacific Palisades, since we have a housing shortage, we should 480 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: rezone a lot of it and do a house house 481 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: house apartment building, house house house, three apartment buildings, house house, house. 482 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: Section eight city, and they think it's a good idea 483 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: because they have. 484 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: No concept of housing values, of real estate, of what 485 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: makes the Pacific Palisades Pacific Palisades, and what makes a 486 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: corner of town that should be zoned for multifamily appropriate 487 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 3: for multifamily, Like, they don't understand those things as concepts 488 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: and comma. They come from a philosophical school of thought 489 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: that effectively they're belligerent to anybody that owns their own house. 490 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: They really are. You see this a lot in the 491 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: Mbie crowd. 492 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 3: That's the yes in my backyard chorus of the Democrat 493 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 3: Party in Sacramento that is constantly trying to ruin a 494 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: good thing for those of us that got away from 495 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 3: low income housing. Right, I mean, let's be honest, Please, 496 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: you work hard to take your family away from bad 497 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: neighborhoods and into better neighborhoods. You always hear the phrase, right, 498 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: we want to put our kids in a good school district. 499 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: You know where good school districts are where single family 500 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: houses are, right, you know where the bad school districts 501 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: are where there's a lot of low income housing. So 502 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: there are certain realities and we can have all kinds 503 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: of thoughtful discussions about why that is and what institutional 504 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: conditions there are in our society that make that be 505 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: the case, and if it's true or if it's not, 506 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: and if there are racial insensitivities that underscore some of 507 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: those realities. 508 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: We can have all those discussions, but. 509 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: If you have a house in the Pacific Palisades, you 510 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: don't want to be part of those discussions. That's the 511 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: whole goal, to be away from those discussions. And that's 512 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: what the people of Pacific Palasades want. They just want 513 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: to go back to the way it was. And now 514 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: you have Democrats in Sacramento that want to effectively reimagine 515 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: the entire community there as some mixed use community among 516 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 3: people that belong there and people that clearly don't belong there, 517 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: who could never afford to live in the Palisades. And 518 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: that's the egalitarian thinking among Democrats. They don't want you 519 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: to move out to the suburbs and have a nice backyard. 520 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: They want to force you to have to be next 521 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: to people that you clearly have have different levels of prosperity. 522 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: So we'll talk about what's going on next and what 523 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: exactly Senator Ben Allen means when he says we're going 524 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: to we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna see if we 525 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: can't get it right. That's my favorite phrase. That they're 526 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 3: working hard. They're putting it aside for now until they 527 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: can get it right. And get it right means they 528 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: need they need to basically eliminate any opposition. So the 529 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: good news is Pacific Palisades represented by people that have 530 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: significant influence and already Mayor Karen Bass has said that 531 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: she does not like the idea. Gavin Newsoen put out 532 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: a social media tweet, we're now just a I guess 533 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: a message on X is that what it's called. That 534 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: said he does not want to bulldoze all of Pacific 535 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 3: Palisades and turn it into the projects. But no one 536 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: said that Allen's idea was a bad idea, and it 537 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: got the votes in the Assembly. I mean, it's working 538 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: its way through and it's not a new idea. You 539 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: have to understand how these people think. They don't think 540 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: of housing the way you think of housing. They don't 541 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: think a house is a private contract between you, your blender, 542 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: the mortgage company, the builder, and the past owner. 543 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Right, you go buy a house what do you do. 544 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: You have your real estate agent call their real estate agent, 545 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: you make an offer, You secure the loan, and you 546 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: put the money down the down payment, and then you 547 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: begin the escrow process and then they hand you your 548 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: keys and you're done. No, not to democrats, to democrats 549 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: in Sacramento. 550 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: They believe they're in that conversation. 551 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: They believe they have a seat at that table because 552 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: in their mind, look, government was the one that permitted 553 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: the building of the house in the first place, So 554 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: there would be no house for you to buy and 555 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 3: no house for. 556 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: You to sell if it wasn't for government. 557 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: So government is involved in this and can stay involved 558 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 3: in it, even though it's a private party transaction. They 559 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 3: look at houses all housing, whether it's low income housing, 560 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: whether it's a single family, detach residents in Pacific palisades, 561 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: whether it's a house that you inherited, it doesn't matter. 562 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: They believe that they're part of the entire transaction. Democrats 563 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: look at housing of all kinds, public housing, private housing, multifamily, 564 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: single family. They look at it as a utility. They 565 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: think of it as just I mean, it's just another 566 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: part of the society that they have an obligation to 567 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: be involved in to make sure that everybody has a house, 568 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: because they believe everybody has a right to a house, 569 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 3: and that person has a right to a house wherever 570 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: they want. So it does make sense in this kind 571 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 3: of convoluted mind of a Democrat in Sacramento who has 572 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: never made a house payment, that, Yeah, now there's land 573 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: and we have a housing shortage in La County. So sure, 574 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: let's go and get in there and rezone it and 575 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 3: turn everything into the projects. We'll talk about it coming 576 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: up next on KFI AM six forty live everywhere. 577 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: On the iHeartRadio app. Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt. 578 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobelt Show podcast. 579 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 580 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 581 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.