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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Here'sn't afraid to mute you

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. We welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I'm coming

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Speaker 1: to you from a room that's just overflowing with heroes

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosittal. What is up boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan and joining us in studio for the first time.

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Speaker 1: You've had this person on the phone once and we

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. But now we got her in the house.

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Speaker 1: I call her the first Lady of sports Twitter. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Her majesty na kind Welcome

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Speaker 1: to be Around the NFL podcast. Thank you. Um, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how I'm gonna live up to the designation you. Besides,

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Speaker 1: this his first lady music, That's what I asked. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't really do much so majestic, very royal tea settings. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what, lose first lady. Let's let's go with

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Speaker 1: the Queen. I don't think they let her out of

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Speaker 1: the house in this administration. How are you men? Is

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Speaker 1: that kind of podcast? I'm good, I'm pumped. I have

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Speaker 1: changed my mind about who's gonna win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Literally every day I don't know where you guys are

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Speaker 1: with that, but it does not. I I was wondering

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Speaker 1: how a favorite was installed in this game because I've

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Speaker 1: been the same way. You can talk to yourself like

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Speaker 1: I think the forty are the better team. But how

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Speaker 1: do you pick against Patrick Mahomes right now? I mean

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Speaker 1: the since you don't know anything, pick with what you

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Speaker 1: want to happen camp and just in general, I have

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Speaker 1: a fondness for Andy Reid. I feel like he I

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Speaker 1: would argue that you've all put more work into this

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Speaker 1: since Sunday. So I'm with you. I'm Patrick Mahomes. This

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Speaker 1: is his moment, this is his take the Torch game.

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Speaker 1: But that might be again more I'd like to see.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to spoil the big reveal from our

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Speaker 1: super Bowl with yeah okay because people are on the

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Speaker 1: edge of the seat. And also Simone Sessler, your lovely

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Speaker 1: wife Mark. By the way, Greg any apologies yet hat

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Speaker 1: in hand. Well, two shows in a row, Greg with

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Speaker 1: extremely offensive commentary about actually comments about this, and I

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Speaker 1: It was you're doing everyone a favor in your world.

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Speaker 1: That's how you was getting you. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: can't name one person who you granted a favor too.

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Speaker 1: I was Simon's Niners fan, and I was trying to

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Speaker 1: get what was would be an exciting romantic potential. Night's Well, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you are a You are a cupid if there is

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Speaker 1: ever been one. So I'm gonna listen. She listens to. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you know that is a curious affiliated with me. Listens

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Speaker 1: Not one. In fact, we had a TV show for

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Speaker 1: the first time ever around the NFL broadcast that aired

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Speaker 1: I was on the plane. I liked it very much.

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Speaker 1: football either, So what do we talk about? My family

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Speaker 1: next two weeks because we're in a very competitive pick

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Speaker 1: him what's been going. There's a plaque in my family's

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Speaker 1: the Kimes family plaque. They have an advantage because they're

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Speaker 1: this is cutthroat. I've had this issue with fantasy football.

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Speaker 1: Well like Greg and I worked for Rhoda World Like.

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Speaker 1: today's show, Eli Manning retired. We're gonna get to that. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: is that one of these guys as a jerk. I

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Speaker 1: didn't say that. I just said one is a lesser

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Speaker 1: man than the other, according to high school. According to

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Speaker 1: my husband, who also, by the way, interviewed Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 1: for the St. Joe's Prep hoklet and is available. He

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Speaker 1: tells me for any interviews to talk about the experience.

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Speaker 1: Probably the first interview of Stefanski Um. He was very

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Speaker 1: high on Kevin. Well, I'm just taking the rest of

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Speaker 1: the show off because you know, when things start to

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Speaker 1: go well, check out and just enjoy. That was a

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Speaker 1: close If if it was the fancy get lost the job,

436
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Speaker 1: we would have lost Mark. Yeah, that would have been it.

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Speaker 1: I don't need it. I don't need any more negative

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Speaker 1: type news. This is the opposite. Thank you, Um, just

439
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Speaker 1: really Cooklean Kubiak though cubes Um wasn't he supposed to

440
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Speaker 1: retire because of his health like this is I mean,

441
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 1: the dude can't quit football. And I agree with you.

442
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,479
Speaker 1: He's been immensely successful everywhere he's gone. His fingerprints are

443
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: all are all over the Shanahan run game, every offense

444
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Speaker 1: he's touched. But is a dispassionate life worth living well?

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Speaker 1: There was not trying to survive. That's post cancer. Well,

446
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: of course, I mean you have to go through all

447
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: that when you suffer a big health scare. What's worth

448
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Speaker 1: what makes it worth living well? The thing I found

449
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: weird last year at this time was Ian Rappaport would

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Speaker 1: say that Kubiak didn't want the head coaching jobs because

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Speaker 1: of his health, because yeah, the stress, but but the

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Speaker 1: coordinator thing seemed fine, which is one of the more

453
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Speaker 1: underrated John Elway um mistakes. I think of the last

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Speaker 1: few years, you you love killing your boy. He somehow

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Speaker 1: let Kubiak get out of the get out of the

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Speaker 1: building last I mean, Kubyak wanted that job, and it

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Speaker 1: seemed like he wanted to have his whole, the whole

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Speaker 1: Kubyak Click crew. He's got Clint Kubiak, He's got a

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Speaker 1: couple others. I think, what is his name, Donald's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's got the same assistance and they couldn't come to

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Speaker 1: as he didn't And it's always laughed by the way,

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Speaker 1: according to Dan if you're wondering if we're and instead

463
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Speaker 1: he got Scangarrello who last year and now he's he's

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Speaker 1: weird and don't forget he also had Kyle Shandan in

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Speaker 1: the building. And then he looked advanced Joseph and went,

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Speaker 1: this one's r that's true. What is that? Boys don't ask? No,

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Speaker 1: it's not my eloy that is um. I just I

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Speaker 1: like it because I feel like this whole year in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: you never knew who was calling the shots, not just

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Speaker 1: between um Cubes and Kevin, but also between Zimmer and

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Speaker 1: then when they were like running the ball way too

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Speaker 1: much early on, everybody was questioning who's really making these decisions.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a huge question mark. And Stefanski is wait,

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Speaker 1: one of the best play callers in the NFL is

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Speaker 1: sitting next to you in meetings potentially doing all the work,

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Speaker 1: and you're getting hired for the head coaching. Great good

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Speaker 1: looking man, though another of a problem with the way

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Speaker 1: he looks. Another family tie into the show, um My

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00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: brother Kevin danger hands is It's good to have a

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Speaker 1: prominent Kevin pop up on the scene because I feel

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Speaker 1: like we'd been in a slump, like Kevin in a

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Speaker 1: big spot Pat Kevin Well Bacon has been around forever, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean a fresh Kevin on the scene is the

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Speaker 1: l Kevin James was getting a little stale. We need

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Speaker 1: to do it all right, Let's move on. Speaking of Flower,

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, this was interesting. A couple of things, A

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Speaker 1: couple of nugs around the packers. First of all, Mike Patton,

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Speaker 1: he will remain the defensive coordinator. Although la fleur kind

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Speaker 1: of said he had to think about some things before

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Speaker 1: making a decision, he decides that la fleur Um will

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Speaker 1: return to the staff, even after a very grizzly, uh

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Speaker 1: downfall for the Green Bay defense in the NFC title game.

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Speaker 1: And then I just wanted to play a quote from

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Speaker 1: Matt from his press conference on Wednesday that jumped out

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Speaker 1: to me a little bit. I'm curious if you guys agree.

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Speaker 1: That's something that I'm still trying to figure out right

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Speaker 1: now as we speak. I mean, I don't understand that

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Speaker 1: because you're there, you have an opportunity to go to

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Speaker 1: playing a Super Bowl, and for that to happen, it's

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Speaker 1: it's extremely it's bothersome, and we gotta look at ourselves, everybody.

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Speaker 1: My I gotta look inside it myself and see why

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Speaker 1: why weren't our players playing with their hair on fire?

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Speaker 1: I think every everybody in our organization has to do that,

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Speaker 1: you know. I thought it was interesting to hear a

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Speaker 1: coach talk about that and talk about his team's lack

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Speaker 1: of passion and fire when it's connected to the conference

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Speaker 1: championship game. Now, you sometimes you hear a coach talk

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Speaker 1: like this, in Week six after a game where a

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Speaker 1: team just has a no show. But that was a

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Speaker 1: little bit of, I don't know, a little bit of

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Speaker 1: red flag that he's admitting it and talking in the

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Speaker 1: media that his team didn't show up for the NFC

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Speaker 1: title game kind of sounded like his quarterback there just

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Speaker 1: you know, some of those spicy quotes that you can um.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's right, he is right. I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised that he spoke on it publicly because it's kind

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Speaker 1: of isn't it a on some level when the team

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Speaker 1: doesn't show up something you could see it as a

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00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: direct reflection of the head coach. Well, he tried to

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00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: say that. I mean, I think he was just recognizing

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Speaker 1: the obvious that the defense and Aaron Rodgers, but I

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00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: would say that those the defense as a whole, was

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Speaker 1: just blown off the ball and was blown away. And

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Speaker 1: I think if you watch them, you have to come

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Speaker 1: to that conclusion. Like the two Smith brothers, you know,

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Speaker 1: Darius and Preston Smith we talked about all year and

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00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark, they got railroaded. I mean, they they got

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00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: they got crushed. But I read this the Bob McGain

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Speaker 1: Weekly Grades that he gives the Packers, which is always

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Speaker 1: he goes on the athletic and this one was like

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Speaker 1: from a crime scene. I mean, he went in on

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Speaker 1: these guys and Rogers he basically the entire defense and

533
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Speaker 1: Rogers is having, you know, the worst games of their careers,

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Speaker 1: and the defense especially just kind of getting physically manhandled

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Speaker 1: and mentally just out of it. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: guys this because I would. I was just thinking through

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Speaker 1: this as I look ahead to how do you stop

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Speaker 1: this San Francisco offense from humiliating you with the run

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Speaker 1: game the way they did? How much of that would

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Speaker 1: you put on effort, execution, broken tackles, that kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: some of the secondary being out, Um, the Smith's not

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00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: showing up, and how much would you put on scheme

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Speaker 1: and Petton not making adjustments, not putting some of his

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Speaker 1: defensive players in the right position to succeed. I felt

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Speaker 1: like I saw both happening at the same time. Um,

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Speaker 1: which is the very first lady esque answer, what do

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Speaker 1: you think? Well, after reading about this, the specific game

548
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: plan from the forty Niners was We're going to attack

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00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: the Smith brothers in the running game, so they're not

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Speaker 1: pass rushing us. Basically, we're going to go to the

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Speaker 1: edges and take them out, and it worked. So I

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00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: think when you're talking scheme like that has to be

553
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: a big credit to Kyle Shanahan there, and I tend

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Speaker 1: to credit him more than I blame Petton. I think.

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00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle Shanahan there are we're hearing now, and

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00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: we talked about it before the game. Kyle Shanahan had

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Speaker 1: a year plus to scout Mike Petton and did a

558
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: better job of scouting Mike Petton than Mike Petton did.

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00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean forget a year. I mean, I think was

560
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: a bit of a controversial relationship to what they were.

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00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: There was definitely not the coziest of friendships there, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't just I just give it to Kyle Shanahan

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00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: for understanding how to attack pett And they crossed two

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00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: hundred yards on the ground four times this season, so

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00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: it's not out of their DNA the Niners to do this.

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Speaker 1: They had, Yeah, and they had some The Packers had

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00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: some no shows. I mean, for a for a team

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Speaker 1: that only lost four games. The four that they lost,

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00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: none of them were competitive, three were just blowout. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The most concerning thing for me is if you're a

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Speaker 1: Packers fan, it shares a lot of connective tissue with

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Speaker 1: the meltdowns you saw with Don Caper sitting up in

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Speaker 1: the booth and his little hair flying around and the

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Speaker 1: Packers no showing and in January game on defense, I

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Speaker 1: put him on the coaching being one step ahead of

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Speaker 1: the other team. And then the fact that you've already

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Speaker 1: gotten blown out by this team one time, and maybe

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00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: you know they they had to have the forty Niners

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Speaker 1: had to have felt that they had the Packers numbers

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00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: and everything proved them right. I'm sorry just saying that

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00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: was the Kaepernick was this last time they got ran

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Speaker 1: on that like that, and everyone put it on Capers

583
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: as well. I just think it's personnel too. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, that just didn't have good linebackers

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00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: and you just can't beat And this this is a

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00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: real concern for me with Kansas City is again go

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00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: back and forth, go back and forth. In this game.

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00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: It's real hard to stop this Niner's offense if you

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00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: don't have linebackers. If you played that La Fleur good Ones,

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00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: for a non sports fan, the reaction would be, why

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Speaker 1: is this person with a monotone talking about not playing

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00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: with your hair on fire. It comes from the person

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Speaker 1: with the monotone. What was that take about Dom capers hair,

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00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: little hair flying around? I mean that just I feel

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00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: like Dom's hair doesn't move. It's the cutaways to him

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00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: looking out completely died, amused and befuddled in the booth.

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00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: Is that got like tamped down? Well? I think the

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00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: whole thing that, Yeah, Dom was it. It looked like

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00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: it had you know, perished fifteen years before, and he

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00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: had purchased it. I don't mean to speak too much

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00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: on it, but yeah. Uh. In other coaching news, the

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00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars are hiring former Redskins head coach Jake Gruden

603
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: Fox and he is there exactly next offensive coordinator. Uh.

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00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: This quote from Doug Moron, who obviously does not see

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00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: the meteor heading towards come on, coach Dog is one

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00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: of the brightest offensive minds in football, and I'm pleased

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00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: to welcome him to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now, he didn't

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00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: say this, but he could say it and it wouldn't

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00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: make sense. And he is also a perfect choices in

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Speaker 1: term coach. When I'm fired on Holliday, I will sandwich

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00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: prop right here. Yeah, Jay Gruden is in and Doug

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00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: Moron is out by this time in two thousand twenty two,

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Speaker 1: So within the next two calendar years, Gruden is in,

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00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: is the head coach, and Maron You're not bold enough. Basically,

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00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: at some point Jay Gruden will be the Jagguars head coach,

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Speaker 1: head coach this year al right before that, this time

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Speaker 1: next year Bruden Gruden is in and Maron it would

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00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: be ten months from now, right. I still think it

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00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: was a great move because their offense is and Jake

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Speaker 1: Gruden is is underrated and as I still believe he's

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00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: a great play caller and has done a very good

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00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: job almost everywhere it's in Washington. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get for Maron. No, it's a terrible why

624
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: because they need they need something, they need something to

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00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: fix the offense. It's just going to happen with an

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00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: all serious and other ready made inside choice for a

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00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: coke in it but is on fire, he's no matter what,

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00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: so they have to win. Well, that's true too. I

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Speaker 1: like it for Minshew. I mean, just set aside the

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Speaker 1: our concerns about Maroon first, assuming the man as could

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Speaker 1: be real bad next year. But um, you know Cruden's

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00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: a West Coast guy. Yeah, I'm not You're right, they

633
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: could go in a lot of different directions with corporate.

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00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: But if they is Minshew, I'm saying, you know, like

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00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: a quick passing game, a little more play action for

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00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: Gardener seems what about nick falls? What is going to happen?

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting subplot. I don't think he is because

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Speaker 1: of the money, and he's not a terrible quartback to

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Speaker 1: have and maybe Minshew is the starter, Like you just

640
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Speaker 1: eat so much money to get rid of him. It

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense if you found a trade partner

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Speaker 1: that takes off a little bit of the money, but

643
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Speaker 1: it's still you're eating all this money to not have

644
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Speaker 1: him on your oster. Counterpoint, can you tell the story

645
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Speaker 1: of football without Nickles? But he's also not going to

646
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Speaker 1: be heading to Canton twice? Oh yeah, I'm sorry. That's

647
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Speaker 1: that's the bar, and you really can story in all seriousness,

648
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Speaker 1: that's a high bar if you do it twice. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I can't take you on your sandwich prop because it

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Speaker 1: was the first thing I came to my mind. So

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Speaker 1: if I were to, I don't want to root against it,

652
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Speaker 1: and I also know I can't get sandwiches by you know,

653
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Speaker 1: going with you so well, I already knew it was

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Speaker 1: the first thing that came to your mind, because I

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Speaker 1: know you. Okay, alright, real quick, let's jump into the

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Speaker 1: fish tank. Um. The Dolphins and their general manager Um

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Speaker 1: are Chris Career. They quote fully expect Ryan Fitzpatrick to

658
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Speaker 1: be back with the team next year, the thirty seven

659
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Speaker 1: year old who had a really nice season UH for

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins under very difficult circumstances. Um is obviously a

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Speaker 1: guy who works as a stop gap. But the whole idea,

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Speaker 1: I mean of the build up and the tanking was

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Speaker 1: to start over and start over at quarterback. Doesn't make

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Speaker 1: sense to be paying Ryan Fitzpatrick pretty good money when

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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna go get a quarterback in the first round.

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Speaker 1: The only the thing I don't like about it is that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're going to get a quarterback. ST. Two is probably

668
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Speaker 1: right the leader in clubhouse, assuming the fifth overall you

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Speaker 1: can get him there, they might have to trade up.

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Speaker 1: He expected four quarterbacks to go in the top fifteen,

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Speaker 1: so get one. Oh my god, Jacob Eason, it's gonna happen. Um.

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Speaker 1: Huskies fan so anyways, I don't love the idea of

673
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Speaker 1: fits being the veteran backup behind the rookie, ready to

674
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Speaker 1: pounce and out play him at every turn. I don't know.

675
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Speaker 1: I know we think of him, you know, he's a

676
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Speaker 1: great guy, good mentor, But I just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That kind of makes me nerve. I just feel like

678
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Speaker 1: there's so many we have so many examples now of

679
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: him coming in and out playing these young guys in

680
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Speaker 1: Spurts and to Chicago and get on the backup to Trabinsky.

681
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Speaker 1: I don't want to back up. Yeah, I don't want

682
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Speaker 1: to see I don't start him over Trabinsky. I don't

683
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Speaker 1: want to see Fitzpatrick. Also, just what will be his

684
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Speaker 1: final season just sitting on the bench. Well, if it's

685
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Speaker 1: if it's too to him, might not be Probably wouldn't

686
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Speaker 1: be ready and maive million. It's the opposite. The contract

687
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Speaker 1: is a huge bonus. He's making eight million next year,

688
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Speaker 1: which is for a backup. Uh, not bad, Like I

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Speaker 1: would love to see the for a guy who is

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the a f C East last

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Speaker 1: year and can start games for you. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that I wish to was a Fitzpatrick for every team

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Speaker 1: in the league. Fitzpatrick. I just I thought it was noteworthy,

694
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Speaker 1: just that he said that, because you know, Derek Carr's

695
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Speaker 1: out here on Wednesday all upset with these quotes that

696
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Speaker 1: why is everyone bringing up you know that other quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: might be coming here? Because I forget what there was

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Speaker 1: something this week that people were connecting Jamis to the

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Speaker 1: Raiders like you would think, and he went through all

700
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Speaker 1: Brady and here's why, because your coach made it very

701
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: clear that they're evaluating the quarterback position and went out

702
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Speaker 1: of his way to not promise you the job, whereas

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Speaker 1: in Miami, I think they're basically promising it's Fitzpatrick in

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Speaker 1: a rookie like they're making it pretty Do you think

705
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Speaker 1: that sets up a nice transition? So you're right to

706
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Speaker 1: a could come in, not play, fitz comes in, they

707
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Speaker 1: mess around and win a few games. You can evaluate

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Speaker 1: some of the guys. You know, you're williams Is whatever

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Speaker 1: receiver they'd writ Do you think that could be like

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Speaker 1: a nice Why not? I think as much as coaches

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Speaker 1: seem to dislike Josh rosen Uh, they seem to love

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. And if from a coaching staff angle, there

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Speaker 1: it would be the perfect veteran. To West's point, every

714
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Speaker 1: team would like to have a Bryan Fitzpatrick in that quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It also kind of says they're out of the veteran

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Speaker 1: quarterback market if they're being honest, which is a little

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Speaker 1: bit of information. That's what's happening in the news. Ricky

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Speaker 1: go and quick. You've done some live at Kimes podcast

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Speaker 1: Miami money shows. How have those gone? You know? I

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Speaker 1: do want in Seattle. So that was you know, homecoming

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Speaker 1: like the rat King and the Sewer. Wow. Weird analogy

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I was there. I was thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm surrounded by like enablers, and well, isn't

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Speaker 1: a rat king When a bunch of rats tails get

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Speaker 1: caught together technically, then they become a giant giant. That's cool,

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Speaker 1: That's what that was like. Um, Bill Barnwell and I

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Speaker 1: have done a few. We did one in I know

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. That was that was fun. Are you doing

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Speaker 1: any live ESPN Daily podcast? Not the super Bowl? Just

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Speaker 1: doing some we got a studio. Ami, you think you're

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Speaker 1: saying that you know whose voice that is? And I'm amazed,

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Speaker 1: But is that not Erica Miami, the Great, Connie Fox,

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf? I hear it now. By the way, the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl forty fifty four research and notes are out

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Speaker 1: and Mina's competitor, she was the ESPN so she doesn't

746
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Speaker 1: get to look at this. She probably gets her own packet.

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Speaker 1: But um, the city of Miami has its own chapter

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Speaker 1: Miami and I just want to share a couple of

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Speaker 1: fun facts about the city of Now would be the

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Speaker 1: natural time for there we go. It is the second

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Speaker 1: time people chirping at me back on her on her timeline.

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Speaker 1: The second most populous city in Florida. The mayor is

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Speaker 1: New York connections to Miami with the lebatar. Yeah no,

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Speaker 1: I've basically lived in Miami for two years. It's Francis Suarez.

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Speaker 1: He's it's the third year in office, of course, Francis

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Speaker 1: X Suarez. By the way, what city in Florida has

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Speaker 1: more population than Miami? Miami. Famous Miami Miamians include Stephen Ross, Well,

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Speaker 1: the Rock Pit Bull, Glorious stuff on. These are also

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Speaker 1: owners of the Dolphins, Enrique Iglesias, Ava Mendez, and a

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Speaker 1: Rod Miami. So there you go. All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, hey, why does he go to all

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Speaker 1: of fame? We don't know. I think he does. Some

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Speaker 1: other people in here don't think he does. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's why sports are fun, because you get to talk

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Speaker 1: about these things. But let's now get into players that

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Speaker 1: are active in the NFL right now, Players that are

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Speaker 1: in if their careers ended tomorrow. Okay, um, I have

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Speaker 1: a list here. I think you guys have lists as well, potentially,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go through some names. Uh, we'll put

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Speaker 1: it in categories and then you know, chime in with

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Speaker 1: your own thoughts. Anybody I miss anyone you disagree with

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Speaker 1: here to me are absolute no brainers. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, J. J. Watt,

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, Aaron Donald, Larry Fitzgerald. Anybody disagree that those

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Speaker 1: guys are the career ends tomorrow. They're in five years anyway,

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Speaker 1: and I would disagree if their career ends tomorrow, they're done.

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Speaker 1: Their their body of work is already complete. I think

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Speaker 1: nailed that. Okay, I would put some more in that list,

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Speaker 1: But okay, let me go to the next here, and

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Speaker 1: then you guys tell me if they belong in the

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Speaker 1: first here. I put these guys in the candy. There's

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Speaker 1: no doubters to me. But they're not at the cinch

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Speaker 1: that those other guys are Russell Wilson, your boy, Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones, Richard Sherman, Bobby Wagner, Von Miller, Earl Thomas,

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Speaker 1: and Justin Tucker. A lot of names. Tony dunge up

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Speaker 1: in here like that. Um well, I think never forget.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Aaron Rodgers should be in that first left.

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Speaker 1: That's an over that's a classic oversight. You might get

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Speaker 1: some heat on Matt Ryan from some people. I think

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Speaker 1: I loved the Matt Ryan. I do too, but he's

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Speaker 1: not a no doubter to me, And if and if

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Speaker 1: his career ended tomorrow, he's definitely not a no doubter.

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Speaker 1: I assume that we're in the section now where they

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Speaker 1: have to keep playing a little bit. But he's saying

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Speaker 1: if they think, oh you think, and you've not mentioned

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger at this point, oversight, but I'll put him

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Speaker 1: in the tail end of no doubt. To me, Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: would be in the in the total fight me essentially,

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Speaker 1: he would be in There's no way Ben roth I

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Speaker 1: mean Ben Roethlisberger, you know, comparing him to Eli, I

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Speaker 1: would say it was the top five quarterback seven or

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Speaker 1: eight times, and Eli has been at twice. Thought experiment.

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes wins the Super Bowl this year, retires the

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Speaker 1: next day. How could you, in good like face, how

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Speaker 1: could you make a case for Eli over Pat Mahomes,

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00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: who was the best quarterback in football two years and bowl.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what Patrick Mahomes is retiring to do,

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Speaker 1: because if he's going to build houses somewhere for developed country,

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Speaker 1: the narrative, there's a there's a hook to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if it's just like I fell out of love with

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Speaker 1: the game. I'm like, you know what, you know, sit

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Speaker 1: on the couch and enjoy whatever you're doing. But but

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Speaker 1: if he's got a hook. Interesting the Seahawks on this matter,

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Speaker 1: I thought we're interesting, Earl Thomas, Bobby Wagner. I'm counting

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman as a Seahawk. Russell Wilson I think probably

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Speaker 1: needs to he needs to play more, but he'll be

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Speaker 1: He'll be all Wow. I would put Russell Wilson, Russell

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Speaker 1: sure here whatever he's in the other three are I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying the defeated voting session here. Defensive players, it's

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Speaker 1: hard for Earl because I mean, safeties already have a

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Speaker 1: hard time getting it. I wonder when I made like

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Speaker 1: a you know, I did a search on Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Reference for the most first team All Pro since OH three.

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Speaker 1: I just picked and Bobby Wagner was tied for first.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was kind of going on. I built

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Speaker 1: this list off all going into but I guess a

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Speaker 1: couple of years he doesn't count as active anymore. I

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Speaker 1: don't Richard Sherman, Is he definitely a Hall of Famer?

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Speaker 1: I think I think what he's been able to do

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, especially this year and being

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Speaker 1: on all again. I would like I would like it

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Speaker 1: if Matt Ryan makes it, but I can't even even

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Speaker 1: as a huge fan, I don't know about no doubt

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Speaker 1: right now. Okay, here's what he needs to play a little.

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Speaker 1: I agree with Greg he's I think he's going to

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Speaker 1: get in eventually because his numbers by the time he

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Speaker 1: retires are going to rank with anyone's in the history

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Speaker 1: of the game. And a lot of people judge this

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Speaker 1: stuff by numbers. You know who told me that Earl

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Speaker 1: Thomas was a no doubt or for the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame And this is timely before me drell revs did

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Speaker 1: not mention Richard Sherman to me. This is before you

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Speaker 1: know the beef. But I think if you did the

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Speaker 1: three Seahawks defensive players against each other, it would go

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Speaker 1: Earl first and then Wagner or Sherman. Well, I think

845
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm crazy, like you're the Seahawks fan. What what

846
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: order is? There doesn't need to be an order. I

847
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: think he's the more valuable dominant player. But the way

848
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: we look at Hall of Fame and the accolades, I

849
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: think he'll have a harder time getting in. You know,

850
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: there is an as a woman who has a Super

851
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: Bowl forty t too. So you're as die hard as

852
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: they come. Um, these guys are all on the similar

853
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: age range. There is a possibility that they could all

854
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: go in the same year. You're in Canton for that, right,

855
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: like you're there for the speeches of that happened, being

856
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: emotional just thinking about it. Well, and Russell's pretty longer

857
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: than any of them. Well, Russell could leave Russell out,

858
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: but I mean that's a guy. Yeah, that could happen.

859
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: Could happen. That would be fun. Anybody I've mentioned Justin Tucker,

860
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: did that just go into the radar or him? I'm

861
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: with you, and I think Johnny Hecker has probably headed

862
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Tak, I think Johnny Hecker

863
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: is the best punter in history. I like what about

864
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: Adam Vinitary You're not You're you're on the fence with

865
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: him shot. But I feel like, to be complete, I

866
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: like that you put von Miller in that category, and

867
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. Okay, good, here's the maybe list.

868
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: Now it gets a little dicey and Dominican Sue Tyron Smith.

869
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm even I don't even know how he out in here.

870
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm taking Khalil mack out. I don't know why I

871
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: put him there. That was stupid. He's on the night yet,

872
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: for he's on my night yet. Patrick Peterson I think

873
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: probably ends up getting in. I think he's on that.

874
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: And Andrew Whitworth. He'll be a fascinating case for how

875
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: powerful PFF is because I would say, no under any

876
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: normal um, how they've done Hall of Fame in the past.

877
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: I think even that Andrew Worth that we're talking about

878
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: it right now kind of Bengals probritically due to p F,

879
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: which is interesting. I don't think it's a bad thing.

880
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: When you play for the Brangles, your career doesn't matter

881
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: to the rest of the league. So that's a problem

882
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: he's got, right, which did you do know, Watkinsia, No,

883
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 1: he's on my borderline perpetually on this dack. Martin should

884
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: be on that. That's what when. That's why I went

885
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: when he said, Tyrant, because Martin and Frederick are probably

886
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: have better case to me, might have better cases. And

887
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: obviously Frederick had the illness and Smith has just been

888
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: so banged. Yeah, Tyrann Smith is still young. He needs

889
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: he probably needs to have like a little resurgence Marshall

890
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: yonda falling off a little quicker. It's tough to talk.

891
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: Witten is also getting you haven't said Witten. Witten and

892
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: Jason Peters are like on the ancient list. But we'll

893
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: probably but he'll probably get in. I have one more, maybe,

894
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: guy Greg, your boy Frank Gore. I thought I would

895
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: put Frank Gore in. I don't know. I mean, but

896
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: if we dismiss Eli Manning's counting stats and then we

897
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: count Frank Gore's counting stats, like, well, what are we

898
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: doing here? Well, first of all, the counting stats for

899
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: running backs have declined over the year, so that makes

900
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: Frank gore stats more impressive and Eli Manning is less impressive.

901
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I also would say the last yeah, the

902
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: last few years of Gore have certainly helped a lot,

903
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: But he had a lot of years as a top five,

904
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: top six. I don't know about that. I think so,

905
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: I think if you're years, would you say he was yeah? Yeah,

906
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: the club I love Frank, are right? I like Frank Bore.

907
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: I would say, first of all, his second year where

908
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: he had yards, don't have my computer, granted, but I

909
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: would say after that, I know, I know the numbers

910
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: aren't there. The numbers like yards from scrimmage would probably

911
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: put him more like eight nine ten. But in terms

912
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: of like the quality of his actual play and what

913
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: general managers and coaches would want, I think he wasn't.

914
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm with but it's it's it's an interesting player to

915
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: make a case against. I guess as well, but I'm

916
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, this is where I'm expected probably

917
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: a total hypocrite because I lobby it against Eli and

918
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: I love Frank Gore, and it is I think you're

919
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: it's the same case basically or very similar. Like you said,

920
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: the last few years of really helped him. But like,

921
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: is it because he had five six hundred yards? I

922
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: think it is forgettable team he gets credit for playing

923
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: late to First of all, he had he had a

924
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: thousand until he was thirty four, so he was the

925
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: oldest guy to have over a thousand since the seventies.

926
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: So it's not like he was playing poorly all those

927
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: years after his eight yards season, where he goes fifteen fourteen,

928
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: fifteen thirteen fourteen, The numbers aren't like astronomical, and those

929
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: are yards from scrimmage I'm talking about. But I think

930
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: in terms of like the quality per snap and what

931
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: coaches and gms would want, they would have put him

932
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: top five. I get that five. And also it's not

933
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: just about stuff like this, but yards per attempted his

934
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: last five seasons three point seven, three point nine, three

935
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: point seven, four point six and three point six the

936
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: last five years. The two thousand six season his second

937
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: in the league, when he was like twenty three, and um,

938
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: he was third in rushing yards that year. It was

939
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: one of the best running back seasons I've ever seen.

940
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: It just was I think the same year Ladanian Tomlinson.

941
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: When you watch Frank Gore that year, I don't know,

942
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: not cynically, actually something special. That was the last time

943
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: he was explosive, brings something that out of Greg every time.

944
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: All right, and here's a list. These are not yet

945
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: and and Mark, this is where you could jump in

946
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: help me out. You're saying that's I've had some omissions here.

947
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: Let me know if I've missed any to this point.

948
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: That should be in the first three tiers. And now

949
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: throw by the way, that really interesting one that should

950
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. The last four years have

951
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: been ever since he left. Chance has a chance. I'd

952
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: rather put Geno Atkins in myself. What about Gina Smith?

953
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: Where are we at Smith with me? To see a

954
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: little bit more? Did you see that coin toss he

955
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: had this year? Now about Terrell Sucks? I have him

956
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: written down. Yeah, I think he's on that borderline. Yeah, alright,

957
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: Charles sucks. Not yet? Uh? I just this again, Cam Newton,

958
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's that close, but this

959
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: is gonna be a big stretch ram coming back, But

960
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: he has an m v P. He was a very special,

961
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: different important quarterback for most of this decade. Mike Evans,

962
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, DeAndre Hopkins, Travis Kelsey, Stefan Gilmore, and Sam Donald.

963
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: Anybody disagree with any of those? Sam Donald, well, I

964
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: mean he could retire today as your mentioned. You know,

965
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, same situation. Can we get seam there might

966
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: have have a slightly average season first? Kelsey's a good one. Yeah,

967
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: just receivers you left out? Just Mike Evans is an

968
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: interesting choice. I don't know if I would have gone there.

969
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean, what about Julian edel uh Antonio Brown? Yeah,

970
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: that was I think you know, to Antonio, Brown is

971
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: a no doubter um and I know you'll get there

972
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: will be some conversation about how he's affected his team,

973
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: which is fine the last year or two in league.

974
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't care. He's the best wide receiver. I would

975
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: say he's the best wide receiver I've ever seen. Like

976
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: he would he would be my number my number one.

977
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: It depends what you like sort of, but I think

978
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: at the very worst, he's in the mix of you know,

979
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: Megatron or Julio Jones. He's at that level Randy Moss like,

980
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: that's that's the level he's that. I mean, he blows

981
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald out of the water in terms of Larry

982
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald has two first team all they never did anything

983
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: as great as Larry Fitzgerald's playoff runt. No, he does

984
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: not blow him out of that. We don't really factor

985
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: in playoffs too much room, I think accounts. I mean,

986
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: they're both no doubts. It's just they're both no doubters.

987
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: They're red zone counts, and Larry Fitzgerald for his entire career,

988
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: was a better red zone weapon. You know, you have

989
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: something to speak to break the time Antonio Brown is

990
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: significantly more dominant than larf Fitzgerald. But another one both

991
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: of you and well, that's well, Greg has a recency

992
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: biased thing that we can never get over. Everything that

993
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: happened in the last year or two is better than

994
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: everything that came before. You've already got Patrick Mahomes is

995
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of all time. And then riddle me

996
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: this because recently bias would you turn you against this guy?

997
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: But if you consider his the records he shattered in

998
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: his first few years in the league odahbuck Ham Jr.

999
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: Now I know where we are with him, and he's

1000
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: certainly not a no doubter, but a couple year was

1001
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: the quickest, like a number of records, I'll put him

1002
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: in not not yet he could. I mean, yeah, he's

1003
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of his career. And I don't think

1004
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: the Brown thing is controversial. I mean, at his peak

1005
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: and in terms of first team All pros did there's

1006
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: very few receivers in the last three definitely can't tell

1007
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: the story of football. Now you can, and and it

1008
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: should be said Antonio Brown if you want to like

1009
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: make the case to keep him out because he's been

1010
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: a knucklehead and he's had issues off the field. Well,

1011
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm putting Turell Suggs in either well, and

1012
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: the voters are some other ones too explicitly told not

1013
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: to factor in any of that, but they do. They

1014
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: seem like you do. Antonio Gates was tired, and you

1015
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: would think Antonio Gates he'll go, He'll go against Elie

1016
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: like that. Please don't forget any because we're gonna get

1017
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: killed in Twitter if we forget somebody's favorite place. But

1018
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: unless do you have Taysom Hill on. Taysom Hill has

1019
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: not made it yet. He's just bellow, Sam Donald, looking

1020
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: at your list right now. By the end of the

1021
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: Taystom Hill story, we will be looking at the Hall

1022
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: of Him. Quarterback Harrison Smith is a really good choice. Harrison.

1023
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Borderline cam Jordan too, But he's on your

1024
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: not yet list. He has to Las Campbell isn't interesting.

1025
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: I saw him, thought about him. Eric Weddle. I don't

1026
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: I think Eric Weddle's gonna end up in the Hall

1027
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: of VI. I think he'll he'll get discussed Eric Weddle.

1028
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: But if yeah, Rodnie Harrison's not in it. It's tricky.

1029
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: There's so many of these positions Michael Thomas. Unless a

1030
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: major injury befalls him, that guy's definitely on the track.

1031
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: They're on their way. But I put him in like

1032
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: the Patrick Mahomes category. Right, Yeah, you had this whole

1033
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: list of young guys. He is interesting because Patrick Willis,

1034
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: for all the love we've given him, he was eligible

1035
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: this year. He wasn't even in the finalists. Well, that's

1036
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: because the voters do this whole waiting, wait your turn thing.

1037
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: There's like a pecking order that's like far away from

1038
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: Wayne in turn. I think he will get in eventually,

1039
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: but that's like he wasn't even on the short list

1040
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: right off the bat, which was surprised. Are you guys

1041
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: interested in a quick cliffs notes? I don't people don't

1042
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: even know what cliffs notes are anymore, but a quick

1043
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: look at what we were talking about in two thousand

1044
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: fourteen in the same exercise, because I dug it up,

1045
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: all right, these were the definities back then. Tom Brady,

1046
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Adrian Peterson, Drew Brees. Greg at the time

1047
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: wrote He's the only one that raises my eyebrows. You

1048
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: weren't in on them on him back then, Bill Bill

1049
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: Belichick I guess we mentioned a coach there, Troy Paul, Troy,

1050
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: Paul Balo, Big Ben, Larry fits So, Larry Fitz. We

1051
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: all agreed it as a no brainer in Reggie Wayne,

1052
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: which there was a little pushback on Champ Bailey, Oh

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00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: I can't say that. And then guys who were very

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00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: close Megatron, J J. Watt, Aaron Rodgers, Rivas, Shady McCoy.

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00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: Shady McCoy, you fell off. He's not even discussion. I

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00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: think he is. I think he is still. He's gonna

1057
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: have a hard I'm making it, but there's a pretty

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00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: strong argument that he was like the second best running

1059
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: back last decade. I completely forgot he was on the

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00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: Chiefs conversation too. Would you put Pete Caroline No, I wouldn't.

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00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know where the bar is with coaches.

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00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: I just haven't thought it is. It is tough to

1063
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: but everyone's always hating on Pete Carroll I just think

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00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: he's he's reinventing himself times. Would you put him over

1065
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: guys like Mike Shanahan and Mike Holmgren. There's so many No,

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00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: but I would. I would argue that more coaches should

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00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: be put into the hall and the fact that we

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00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: had to wait for Jimmy Johnson this long is absurd

1069
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: to me, totally absurd. All right, let's good conversation, guys,

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00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: really fun before we get out of here, Let's hit

1071
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: the mail back. Let's do a few questions. Mina, I'm ready,

1072
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: sound good? Sounds good? All right? What is this from

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00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: Eric Jensen? What is the current music of choice on

1074
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: the Heroes is playlist? And we'll include me and at

1075
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: comes as well right now. And I made this very

1076
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: clear in a private text to some of our closest

1077
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: friends this morning that I'm very into the Madonna album

1078
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: Ray of Light, specifically the single The Power of Goodbye,

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: and that's That's what I'm all about. Good album. Mhmm,

1080
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: you brought rap snacks, Well, I'll do a rapper um again.

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00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: Shout out to my husband who is a producer. A

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00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: rapper that he produced is playing Blood Light concert in

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00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: Miami this week's Channel Trace. Also he's in a commercial

1084
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: what's the name? His name is Channel Trace. And if

1085
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: you've been watching the playoff games, they've been doing these

1086
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: Apple commercials where they do like slow motion selfies. It's

1087
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: a song that they made. Oh the ladies face. That's

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00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: Channel Trace. That's yeah, my husband produced that Channel Trace.

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00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: Check it out. If you get a residual every time

1090
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: that that commercial gets on, Let's just say Lenny's eating

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00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: Well yeah, except for you. Greg. You like rap um

1092
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: I do, but you like like a lot of other things.

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00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: I've been listening to a a lot of high Women lately,

1094
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: which is like a country is you know music women

1095
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: band women or women multiple women. It's like a supergroup

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00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: sort of copy love there the Highwaymen, which was like

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00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: a country music. Oh I love the Highwaymen. See there

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00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: you go West. How about you did anything? Uh that

1099
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: you're spinning? Like to um, have my favorite relaxant put

1100
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: on some jazz music and cook. But lately the Buena

1101
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: Vista Social Club album has been like that's getting a

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00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: lot of run. Can't go wrong, Mark, I don't have

1103
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: a playlist. I know, I know that makes me absurd.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't involved myself with it. Will Brinson

1105
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: asks who is on the Twitter council. This is It's

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00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: good that Will ask us because this came up recently,

1107
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: the idea that they're during the playoffs. There's too many

1108
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: people tweet being relentlessly about the same game, and we

1109
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: need a council to decide who gets to tweet in

1110
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: these you know, high profile spots. Will is on the council, Mina,

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00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: I think is on the council. Yeah, and by the way,

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00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: I thought the council. But forget about now, now that

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00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it, forget about this first Lady of

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00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: Sports Swayer. It's the president of Sports Twitter right here.

1115
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: So of course the president is going to be her

1116
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: majesty the president maybe like a Jamal Adam since where

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00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm not really the president, but I call myself that.

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00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: No further than that, Okay, but you are on the council.

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00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: You have to be because we we all trust your judgment.

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Speaker 1: How many people are on this council? For I think, well,

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00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: what how many do we have? Three? Right? You've got

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00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: three there. I think three is the perfect number. Brinson

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Speaker 1: and c Yeah, diversity of views, that's what we're looking for.

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00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: And people that have for this role almost every minute. Yeh.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see Brinson. Always it to see Brinson

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Speaker 1: at the various tent pole events. UH This from Sing

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01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: for the Day. Now back in Florida, as we head

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Speaker 1: to UH, Will Mark and Gregg reunited jogging buddies and

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01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: you can make you film it and put it to

1130
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: eighties montage music. Yessuh for people who don't know uh.

1131
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: During one of the owner's meetings a few years back,

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01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: Mark and Greg put on running shorts and sneakers and

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01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: I assumed like a pull over of some kind and

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Speaker 1: went jogging together and bumped into Anderson Cooper. Yeah we didn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was kind of totally surreal and striking

1136
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 1: to be jogging down the path with Greg, that part

1137
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: feeling norm and then suddenly, Anderson Cooper, You've made it

1138
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Speaker 1: thing I made together. People have been jogging together, and

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01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of for years, have you ever had a buddy?

1140
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: You guys have never run. I had a second base

1141
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: before the knee started barking. But it's just funny you

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01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: guys running together and then we spoon it is I mean,

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01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: it's I thought the whole thing was very one. It

1144
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: was one time. It was in Orlando, not in Miami. Um,

1145
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: but where I'm down, I'm definitely bringing some running clothes.

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01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: Definitely bringing some running clothes. I'm gonna ask you a a

1147
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: football question. Mina from Alex Finnis. Sorry, I saw the

1148
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: visual of them in their short short and on the

1149
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: way back we saw that was the more memorable sighting

1150
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: to me was we saw Bill Belichick and Linda Holiday

1151
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: holding hands kind of sweaty coming back from the tennis court. Yeah.

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: I almost said Linda trip but it was definitely not

1153
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: Linda trip It was Linda Holiday. I forgot about that

1154
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: so political on this podcast, Come on trip Um. She

1155
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: wasn't a very good friend. Was rotten tomorrow? She was

1156
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: not a very good friend. I've been listening to slow Burn,

1157
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: which is a good a good podcast about the Lewinsky skin.

1158
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: I'd recommend. Alex Flinnis asked which team do you think

1159
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: is most likely to do what the Niners have done

1160
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: and go from a losing record the season next year

1161
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: super Bowl? Not just get to the playoffs, go to

1162
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: the dance and it's very earlier stay because there's no

1163
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: draft and no free agency. But just for fun, Yeah,

1164
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: what was the Steeler's final record? Eight and eight? I

1165
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: believe not eligible doesn't count. Shoot, okay, he's got we

1166
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: got the standings. What if the Colts get a quarterback?

1167
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: The Colts with Philip Rivers, do we think they're going

1168
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: to move on with the cult of Jamis Winston. Let's fly.

1169
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Speaker 1: I'm going to answer one. Will you answer first? Yeah? Alright, well,

1170
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: men go Lions because Stafford looks so good before we

1171
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: went out. But I hate the rest of that. I

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01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: would say the fact I'm going to go foul. They're

1173
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: not changing anything. Yeah. What about the Bengals with Joe

1174
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: Burrow going fourteen and two as they will? They don't

1175
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: wind playoff games. I've lost faith in the Chargers. Some

1176
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: weird stuff could happen with Miami. All right? How about

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Speaker 1: this from uh Big Hicks A, how will the Sizzler

1178
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: get revenge on Greg for the wife oiled up? Comments?

1179
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: That's a fair question. I mean, why would I you know,

1180
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: what's this? What's this man's name or this person's name?

1181
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: That big hit, big hit? I mean, why would I

1182
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: reveal my plans verbally on the show right now? When

1183
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: you plot like revenge, it must be a slow cook

1184
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: affair and it will happen at the perfect time. Eric

1185
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: Sabo asks, I wonder if he's related to Chris Sabo

1186
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: West when he was a jarring juxtaposition of names there,

1187
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: Eric and Sabe. Should the Broncos take a QB in

1188
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: this upcoming draft, or have you already seen enough from

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Speaker 1: Drew Lock West Well, I don't like the binary nature

1190
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Speaker 1: of the question. I haven't seen enough from Drew Lock,

1191
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: But I don't think that means they should take like

1192
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: a first round quarterback this year. They have other needs.

1193
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 1: The binary nature of this question is for I haven't

1194
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: seen enough from Drew Lock, I don't think they should

1195
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: draft the quarterback. So offensive coordinator. Now that's gone. Pat Shermer,

1196
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: get excited. Uh, Ricky this one. I want to tee

1197
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: you up because you did a nice job, Rick Hollywood.

1198
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: Um on Instagram. You're very youth oriented. Thanks, you're our

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Speaker 1: connection to the zeitgeist. And you did a Q and

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01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: A on Instagram, um and did very well. And someone

1201
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: asked about the best Super Bowl snack of choice, and

1202
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: I could not have agreed more with your answer. Please

1203
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo chicken dip. You gotta you gotta do it. You

1204
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: gotta do It's like buffalo wings with better. But it's

1205
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: like the cream cheese and and and the shredded cheese

1206
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: on top and the hot sauce and dip you dip

1207
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: the tortilla chips in it. Oh many wins well in Cincinnati.

1208
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: We have Skyline Dip, which is similar Skyline Chili with cream,

1209
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: cheese and chips. Could you do a vegan option of buffalo?

1210
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: I bet you could. I bet you could create a

1211
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: similar flavor. Yeah, definitely, we're gonna do buffalo sauce and

1212
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: like chunks of tofu or some you a meat eater,

1213
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: you know I am a meat eater. Chunks of tofu?

1214
01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: Tell I don't eating, don't need chunks of to A

1215
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: couple more, Uh, this one, I'll open it up and

1216
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: Mina and your your big time in the podcast industries

1217
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: as well, So from Kier and Westbrook. Have any of

1218
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: you ever had a terrible nightmare slash romantic dream involving

1219
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: other members of the pod and did you tell them? So?

1220
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: I co hosted the Ridiculous Podcasts with my dog who

1221
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: I do about the Great Lenny, and I have had

1222
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: nightmares where he's in danger or so yeah, affirmative, Yeah

1223
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: I have. I've definitely had dreams about um, this crew,

1224
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: the three gentlemen in the room, and uh, they've some

1225
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: have been very disturbing and I've decided not to share

1226
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: them in No, not at all. But we were told

1227
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: by HR not to share our dreams with people. Yeah,

1228
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: that was I've kept it, you know, I've kept kept

1229
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: it under wraps. That was a direct order not to

1230
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: discuss your dreams. That was getting us in trouble. Or

1231
01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that question. Put that four questions. You

1232
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: gotta put that one on Kire in Westbrook. That was

1233
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: the hick. Mark. I'll close out with you from Sir

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01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: Awesome of sauce Hey first time, long time. This question

1235
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: is for Mark. If you could go back and tell

1236
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: your younger self to be a fan of any other franchise,

1237
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: would you and for what team would you tell yourself

1238
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: to be a fan of? I'll hang up and take

1239
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: my answer on the air hashtag debate club. No, I

1240
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't change I I know that seems absurd because it

1241
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: would be much more enjoyable had I naturally grown up

1242
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: in Giants Terry. Just the Giants territory, Pick the Giants.

1243
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: But I don't think I would even be sitting here

1244
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: if I rooted for some team that just wanted NonStop.

1245
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: I think football is as a fan is about pain too,

1246
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: and I it's the only positive of being a fan

1247
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: of a terrible team. It is character building. I feel

1248
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean to be somewhat that's not occurred, but that

1249
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: is the potential is there for them. That's what's happening

1250
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: in the mail bag. Alright, Minah, listen, you came, you

1251
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: brought potato chips, You brought me Gooes barbecue and with

1252
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: my honey with a dab a ranch wrap snacks from way.

1253
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: This is some of the best gas station merch I've

1254
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: ever seen. The Cardi b Jerk barbecuere gonna save these

1255
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: for Colleen Chedder barbecue, which I didn't even know was

1256
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: a flavor. You take the Megoes you like rap and um,

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Speaker 1: that was so nice for you to bring that. And

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Speaker 1: you also brought up some sour gummy bears. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take one of us because my boys will love that

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Speaker 1: same here. Um, all right, and how I played, You

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Speaker 1: played hurt. You fought through some pain and you played hurt.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you know you're the best men and that's what

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Speaker 1: you need to know about me. And she's the senior writer.

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Speaker 1: She's one of the best football writers there is. Uh,

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Speaker 1: so you gotta check out her stuff. Um. And also

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Speaker 1: the great uh Daily ESPN Daily podcast, which going well,

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Speaker 1: you feel good about it. So far. Yeah, we got

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Speaker 1: into fun stuff like super Bowl Week. Yeah, we've been.

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Speaker 1: We have my um friend Bill Barnwell on a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about the games. We'll be doing stuff from

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Speaker 1: Miami all week, and then I do a straight football

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Speaker 1: I do a straight football podcast called The Men to

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Speaker 1: Come Show featuring Lenny that Greg has been a guest on. Actually, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he has a hat on Greg Let's go. Probably for

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Speaker 1: the same reasons I haven't been on Throwback. I told

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Speaker 1: you have a standing in or way that you have

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Speaker 1: a you have a baby on the way. I'm just kidding,

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Speaker 1: but I did want to ask Mina a question. I

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Speaker 1: saw your invited also to the Slowan Sports Conference. You

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Speaker 1: are a person in high demand. There must be multiple

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Speaker 1: times per week where you just think about going to

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Speaker 1: the mountains and staying there for four months and just

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Speaker 1: leaving everyone in the dust for a while. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I'm like I'm the Kuby Act of

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Speaker 1: sports podcasters. I can't stay away. I can't turn down

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Speaker 1: and longtime listener to this show. Not every week. I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest. Sometimes I fall behind, but I'm cognizant of

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Speaker 1: some of the inside jokes. Can you put that on

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Speaker 1: like our box set release the inside jokes. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love this show, so thank you, and we love everything

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Speaker 1: that you do. You're the best, and please come visit

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Speaker 1: us again sometime soon. See you in You were a

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Speaker 1: football playable, you know. I thought I had a great

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Speaker 1: out there. It was perfect. Good. Alright, let's start the

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Speaker 1: whole show over and get it right. All right, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Dan hands a signing off. Oh, by the way, stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for after a little Easter egg, Walking with Giants

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Speaker 1: is back, signing off for a quiet storm, the Mailman,

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Speaker 1: Mina Kimes, the Old Boss, and Rick Hollie behind the

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Speaker 1: glass till Tuesday. It's that time, the time you all know,

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Speaker 1: the time you've been waiting for. It's time for Walking

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Speaker 1: with Giants. I'm your host, Chris Walking, Uber, New York

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Speaker 1: football team fan, New Giants, New Jersey, more like, don't

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Speaker 1: even play in New York. But nobody wants to associate

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Speaker 1: any sport team with New Jersey, even the Nets moved

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Speaker 1: to Brooklyn. They'd rather be associated with that Denna thieves.

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Speaker 1: But I digress. We're here to talk about Eli Manning retiring,

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Speaker 1: some say the greatest football player of all time. First

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Speaker 1: bout Hall of Famer beat Tom Brady beating his bridges

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Speaker 1: right off. His cute little face makes Peyton look like

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Speaker 1: little Off and Annie running around with his little curly

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Speaker 1: hair and his tiny little dress, hanging out with the

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Speaker 1: big blob man. Eli, You've done so much for me.

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Speaker 1: You've made me feel so good at least twice in

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Speaker 1: my life. Anyway, I just want to say, it'll be

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Speaker 1: great to see you play again in for the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants. What does the word retire mean? By the way,