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And this is something that 62 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 8: investors traditionally don't like because obviously you're piling leverage onto 63 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 8: a company and it's something that's usually a logo. But 64 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 8: because the debt markets are so hot at the moment, 65 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 8: they're like, Yeah, this is great. It's a new place 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 8: to you know, put new capital, and so they're giving 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 8: the go ahead to them basically. 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 7: So usually when we talk to private equity guys, they're like, 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 7: look like, you're locketting your money five, seven, ten years, 70 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 7: it's going to be fine. We can manage any sort 71 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 7: of big swings in volatility. Does that still ring true 72 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 7: or are we seeing some issues here? When liquidity tightens up, 73 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 7: it gets harder and harder to find ways around it. 74 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 8: They are having some difficult ties. They're having difficulties showing 75 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 8: those exits. So whether it's via the IPO market or 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 8: the M and A market, they just haven't come back 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 8: yet to the level that they would have wanted. 78 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 4: Here the full conversation on the latest edition of the 79 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: Bloomberg Intelligence Podcast. Subscribe on app or Spotify and anywhere 80 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: else you get your podcasts, Plus listen anytime on the 81 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: Bloomberg Business app. In Bloomberg dot. 82 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 9: Com, markets headlines and breaking news twenty four hours a 83 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 9: day on Blueberg Radio, Blueberg Television and the Blueberg Business app. 84 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 9: This is a Blueberg Business Flash. 85 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 10: London. Good morning, I'm Stephen Carroll. Let's bring it up 86 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 10: to speed on what's moving on market. So as we 87 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 10: come down to the start of the European cash trade, 88 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 10: we're looking at eurostocks fifty futures down two tenths of 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 10: one percent, similar top priced in for the catcar on 90 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 10: and the docks at the open the foote one hundred 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 10: den just a tenth of one percent in futures this morning. 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 10: On currency markets, we are seeing a further weakening in 93 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 10: the pound and the euro against the dollar, so both 94 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 10: are down three tenths of one percent, the pound at 95 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 10: one twenty nine sixty six. We have that new labor 96 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 10: market data out at the top of the are showing 97 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 10: wage growth excluding bonuses at five point nine percent a 98 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 10: year on year, so remaining strong and that in focus 99 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 10: ahead of today's Bank of England decision as well. We're 100 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 10: not expecting the bank to move interest rates, although we'll 101 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 10: be watching to see any commentary around how they're pricing 102 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 10: or dealing with the uncertainty on the trade front. We 103 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 10: did have commentary out of Jerome pal from the Federal 104 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 10: Reserve yesterday talking really about downplaying the risk of the impacts, 105 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 10: applying the word transitory controversial as it might be in 106 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 10: center banking circles to what he's expecting the inflation impact 107 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 10: of those trade tariffs to be. We did see the 108 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 10: S and P five hundred rally by one point one 109 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 10: percent yesterday, and futures on the S and P five 110 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 10: hundred are pointing higher this morning, up by another four 111 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 10: tenths of one percent. Less positive picture of equities in 112 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 10: Asia though, the HANGSGNG down two point three percent. Tech 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 10: shares there among the sell off down by three point 114 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 10: five percent, and Mark is taking note of an interview 115 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 10: in the Ft with Jensen Wang from Nvidia looking at 116 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 10: the potential for more investment in the US for its facilities. 117 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 10: That's something to be a boost for that industry, but 118 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 10: perhaps less good news for Asia. Elsewhere on markets, keeping 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 10: an eye on Goal prices a touchweaker this morning after 120 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 10: hitting another record high three forty five dollars a Troy Ount's. 121 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 10: And just a word on Turkey as well, after the 122 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 10: big droft that we saw in Turkey's benchmark stock in 123 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 10: dress yesterday. The bis T one hundred is up by 124 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 10: one point seven percent today. It was general had eight 125 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 10: percent in trading yesterday. The Turkeys leyer of flat on 126 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 10: the day after it dropped to a record low against 127 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 10: the dollar following the arrest of a top opposition politician. 128 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 10: That is your Bloomberg radio business flash. 129 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 11: Stephen, Thank you so much. I'm Caroline Heppy. Good time 130 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 11: there to look. Some other stories making news in the 131 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 11: ukn around the world. President Vladimi Zelinski has back to 132 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 11: a US proposal for Ukraine and Russia to stop strikes 133 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 11: on energy infrastructure. The Ukrainian leader told US person Donald 134 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 11: Trump it would be one of the first steps to 135 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 11: fully ending the wall. As well, has sent troops back 136 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 11: into girls in what it's described as limited ground operations. 137 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 11: It's the country's first incursion since the six weeks ceaspar 138 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 11: lapsed earlier this month. Officials are vowing further pressure unless 139 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 11: her mass releases. It's fifty nine remaining hostages, and the 140 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 11: UK has dropped three places to twenty three in the 141 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 11: world happiness rankings. Finland topped the list for the eighth 142 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 11: year in a row, with Afghanistan bottom and the US 143 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 11: also falling to its lowest ever position those. A sum 144 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 11: of our global news headlines. 145 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 10: Now Starting, carried out by aj Bell and twenty twenty 146 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 10: two found a significant investment gap between men and women 147 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 10: in the UK of as much as one point sixty 148 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 10: five trillion pounds? How much could addressing that help to 149 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 10: boost the UK investment landscape? In a bid to close 150 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 10: the gap, former Goldman Sachs executive Isiho Fori founded Propelled, 151 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 10: the UK's first female focused investment platform. For a work, 152 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 10: Iho has been shortlisted for birth Kliko's Bold Future Award 153 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 10: and she's with us in studio now for more. Issha, 154 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 10: good morning to you. What is the background to the 155 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 10: issue here? Why are women in the UK investing less 156 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 10: than men? 157 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: There are a few reasons. One of them, i'd say, well, 158 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: the main one is that women lack confidence, or i'd 159 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: say it's perceived confidence. Often when you ask them lots 160 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: of questions and things like this, they do actually know 161 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: more about investing than they think. However, they don't act 162 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: on it because they think that they need to know 163 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: more or they need an expert to sort of guide them. 164 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: So they inevitably tend to be savers rather than investors. 165 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 11: Okay, isn't this also part of the gender pay gap 166 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 11: and the fact that women often work slightly fewer hours 167 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 11: fewer years on average over the course of their working lives. 168 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: So that is part of it, but not all of 169 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: the story. It's a number of things, So the pay 170 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: gap obviously is one of them. Women are the ones 171 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: who have children and tend to be the careers, so 172 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: take time out. Women also tend to be the carers 173 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: for relatives, parents, and then women also are affected quite 174 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: a lot during menopause and take time out again. So 175 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: when you add all of these things together on top 176 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: of the fact that women live longer and that they're 177 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: saving rather than investing, it all sort of contributes to 178 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: the problem. 179 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 10: So there's huge untapped potential here as well to boost 180 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 10: both investment and individual wealth. 181 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 9: How do you tackle it? 182 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: So for us, it was really about trying to understand 183 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: the psychology of women when it comes to money in investing, 184 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: but also what are those hurdles that have been holding 185 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: women back and how can we put those into a 186 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: platform that's accessible to the masses and enable women to 187 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: really feel comfortable and confident when they start investing. That's 188 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: the only way to sort of shift the behavior from 189 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: saving more towards investing. 190 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 11: Are you concern that perhaps initiative like the initiatives like 191 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 11: yours might suffer some pushback as we see a rollback 192 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 11: of diversity actually an inclusion in the United States and 193 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 11: that focus on women. Do you think that that perhaps 194 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 11: will affect what happens here in the UK? 195 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: I think absolutely. One of the ways that we reach 196 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 3: women is working with corporates, and we've already started to 197 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: see a shift. But it's really interesting the individuals within 198 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: those companies, particularly in the UK, are sort of like, 199 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: we still love what you're doing, we still want to help. However, 200 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 3: you know, money and funding and sort of departments are 201 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: being shut down. That said, they still recognize the need 202 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: and so they are still trying to see how we 203 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: can continue to work together. But I've never been afraid 204 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 3: of sort of having that pushback. Even when I first 205 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: had the idea, a lot of people told me I 206 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: was insane and if women weren't investing, they didn't want to. 207 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 10: Well, investing in female lab businesses is a broaderish as well, 208 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 10: one being highlighted this morning by Hannah Bernhard, the co 209 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 10: chair of the invest In Women Task Force in the 210 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 10: UK as well, writing in the Financial Times, what is 211 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 10: the issue and is it getting worse? I mean, I 212 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 10: wonder what your own experience was even getting investment for 213 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 10: your own company. 214 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: I use the word horrendous, and I don't use it lightly. 215 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: I perhaps was a bit naive and thought that it 216 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: wouldn't be so challenging for me. I know the statistics 217 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: around women, but also it's even worse for black women. 218 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: But I sort of said to myself, I have a 219 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: master's degree in physics from Imperial, I worked at Morgan 220 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: Stanley Goldman Sachs. I've got an MBA from London Business School. 221 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: Surely those things count for something. But it was still 222 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: incredibly difficult and inevitably. What I found is that a 223 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: lot of the investors are men. They're the ones that 224 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: tend to have money that they're looking to invest in 225 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: these types of businesses. And I guess it's partly they 226 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: didn't understand the story or the need as to why 227 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: women need additional resources or an investment platform for women. 228 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: But I also think it's just inherent biases as well. 229 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: But the way that I got around it is, you know, 230 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: over seventy percent of my investors are women because they 231 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: just naturally understood what we were doing and were also 232 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: prepared to invest in a business run by a woman. 233 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 11: Okay, how is propelled doing as a plan? I you know, 234 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 11: I'm very interested in this subject because on the one hand, 235 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 11: you've got you know, like Hannah Bernard and Debbie Wosco 236 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 11: who are leading the government, backed back by Rachel Rees's 237 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 11: sort of personally the invest In Women's Task Force focus 238 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 11: on women. Okay, invest in in female led businesses is 239 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 11: going down, but nonetheless they're you know, they're they're making 240 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 11: that case. And on the other hand, a lot of 241 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 11: kind of female led clubs in London, for example, trying 242 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 11: to build networking bridges. Those have shut down recently. So 243 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 11: it's it's really a very difficult space. How are you 244 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 11: going to manage this and navigate this when it comes 245 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 11: to propel itself and building that business. 246 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: So I think a lot of resilience, I say, is 247 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: the first thing. But when you speak to women, what 248 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: I found is they actually do want to invest. We're 249 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: also going through something called the Great Wealth Transfer, so 250 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: women are amassing wealth and accelerating rate. I think it's 251 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 3: actually this year that the statistics say that sixty percent 252 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: of UK health is going to be controlled by women. 253 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: So women are getting more and more wealth and when 254 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 3: you do actually speak to them, they want to invest. 255 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: So for me, it's more about finding them. How do 256 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: we reach them, And we do that, as I said, 257 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: through companies, through organizations, but actually we've grown massively just 258 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: by word of mouth, referrals and social media. 259 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 10: Are you worried though, with as you described it, how 260 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 10: companies are reorientating their approach to efforts like this, that 261 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 10: that funnel for you gets cut off. 262 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: I think in a sense of potentially companies paying for 263 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: some of the services we provide. Yes, but we can 264 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: still go into these companies and engage with their women's 265 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 3: networks and things like this, and that has been incredibly 266 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 3: fruitful for us. 267 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 10: So, as I said, some more informal connections necessarily then 268 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 10: perhaps the former ones funneled through 269 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: Companies exactly exactly, So maybe the company can't formally engage 270 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: in the same way anymore, but the individuals in these 271 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: companies absolutely do, so those doors are still open.