1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: While ron is busy sleeping off Thanksgiving dinner. We present 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: an encore of the car Doctor ron Anian. So I 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: assume you're will put this battery and with no complications. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Replacing the battery in his car was was quite interesting. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: I've found about two dollars of nickels and dimes in 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: the back of the car. Who was terrify his bare tire? 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: The car Doctor, Why did you replace the engine? What 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: failed in the old owner? How did the old one film? 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: According to the mechanic, it uh, it just blew blew up. 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car Doctor. 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: call in the garage doors are open, but I am 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: here to take your call at eight five five and 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: now he is running. Hey, it's time to start your 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: engines along. Welcome mon and any of the car doctor 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: here at eight five five five six zero nine nine 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: zero zero. The Car Doctor seven phone number once again 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Give us a call. Let's talk about your car and 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: it's problem, don't live with it. Let's fix it. Let's 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: let's get it safe going down the road, and you'll 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: enjoy it that much more. That's what we're gonna do 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: for the next two hours, an hour at a time. 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: And um, that's what we like to do. We're here. Also, 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: that phone number is seven. You can call the eight 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine zero zero phone number 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: and leave a message. Tom Ray, our executive producer, will 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: get you in the queue and talk to you about 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: your car problem and get you up here for a 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: live radio which is I know some of you are 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: afraid to do it. Trust me, it's not bad. Listen. 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: If I can do it, anybody can do it. And 35 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: we're just here trying to make it so that, you know, 36 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: more people get educated and we're all just trying to 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: get an education about fixing cars. That's what this radio 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: show is and has been about the past twenty seven 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: going on twenty eight years. I think, yeah, something like that. 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: I ran out of toe so I can't count anymore. Um, 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, fingers and toes on past that point. So 42 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: after twenty it was hard. But um, in any event, 43 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: lots of do this hour, lots of talk about. But 44 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: let's kick the garage doors wide open right away, and 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: let's go talk to Steve Lacrosse, Wisconsin and see what's 46 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: going on with his Oh three g mc steve, you're 47 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: out with the car, doctor, sir, how can I help? Hey? 48 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. I've owned the car the 49 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: truck since oh eight, and it hasn't given me any 50 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: at a problem. It's been wonderful. Uh really, right off 51 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: the gate when I got it, it always seemed to 52 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a pole going from first 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: a second. I just said, well, every truck's got it's 54 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: it's character defects. I never gave it a thought. Well 55 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: this last year my son told me, oh, Dad, that's 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: really bad. You're gonna you're gonna lose your trend. You're 57 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna do something about that. Well then I started obsessing 58 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: about it. So I want to I'm new to the 59 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: area and I don't have the good mechanic that I 60 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: that I know you you praise and I used to 61 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: have one, And so I started shopping around and talking 62 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: different people and really didn't get any good answers. I 63 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: went to a transmission shop and they wanted to charge 64 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: me and I'm gonly just to look at it. And 65 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: I went to another transmission shop and they're like, before 66 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: you bring it in, why don't you change the filter 67 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: and fluid. That's the first time we do. I said, okay, 68 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: So I did that. It didn't know. So he's like 69 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: he and the guy took it for a drive, and 70 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, this is when I thinks happened. 71 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: And I'm old school, so I remember clutch plates and 72 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: uh um and and there's something in there that's similar 73 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: to a clutch plate but modern transmission. He goes, that 74 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: part is getting bad, and so he goes, it's not broke, 75 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: but it's getting bad. What I'll do is I'll go 76 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: in and I'll clean out your transmission without dropping it, 77 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: and I'll clean it and do all these things and 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: just make it easier on that part, make it last, 79 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: because I'm thinking of getting rid of the truck in 80 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: a few years. So I took it in for him 81 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: to do it. Well, while it's in there, it coded 82 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: them and he said, yeah, it's coded while I was here, 83 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: and it needs a new mass airflow uh sensor. So 84 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: I put one on and that's solved the problem. And 85 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: two D sixty dollars later, I drove it out and 86 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: that's still doing it. And I just, yeah, I'm like, okay, 87 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: he said the mass airflow sensor was telling me that 88 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: the engine was thinking that you were pulling something, you 89 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: were toyed, so it was making it idle up farther. 90 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: And so I'm not like, okay. Well, I don't want 91 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: to get back to him. And I just you know, 92 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: I listened to your show over the years, and I'm 93 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: just gonna call you and and you know what's my 94 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: next step? Well, I want to tell you what I 95 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: think the first step should have been somewhere along the way. 96 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: And it doesn't take a lot of money. Um, somebody 97 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: should have scanned this for codes. First step alright, Well 98 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: it's never showed any code. We no, I get that. 99 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: And well, but don't base it on not getting a 100 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: check engine light, all right. And you know, if you're 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: a regular listener, you know what I'm gonna tell you next. 102 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: You ever get sick on Wednesday, you started you started 103 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: feeling bad on Monday, right, So you started had a 104 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: pending problem on Monday, but you didn't start sneezing until Wednesday, 105 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: or maybe you were sneezing on Tuesday, and by Wednesday 106 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: your head was stuffed up and your wife said, you're 107 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: staying in bed. You're not going to work today. So 108 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: your check engine light came on on Wednesday. But man, 109 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: you had that pending problem on Monday, all right. And 110 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, cars are funny, and it boggles my mind 111 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: how people will resist, you know, spending a minimal amount 112 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: of time just just put a scanner on it. You know. Sometimes, 113 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: and again I keep saying this, Sometimes telling somebody what's 114 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: wrong with the car is telling them what's not wrong 115 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 1: with the car. If I if I've got no fault codes, 116 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: nothing impending, nothing stored hard and I'm talking O B 117 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: D two and manufacturer side of the computer. If I've 118 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: got nothing there, hey great, you know what I just 119 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: spent what I when I take fifteen minutes and I 120 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: kind of know what I don't have to deal with. 121 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: I can go on to something else, all right. The 122 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: So that's number one, and then number two. Did the 123 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: place to tell you to change the fluid and filter? 124 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: And this is just a curiosity thing for me. The 125 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: place that told you to change the fluid and filter, 126 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: did they check the fluid level or look at the 127 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: fluid condition before they told you that. Okay, so for 128 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: all they knew, you could have just had the fluid 129 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: done last week and they decided to tell you to 130 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: change it again. I told my head, change all right. 131 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: But still, you know, checking fluid level and condition is 132 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: always a you know, it's like a first thing. Always brace, 133 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: always basics. And when I when I did change it, 134 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: the I dropped the pan and imagine it was clear 135 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: and there was nothing on it that The flu is 136 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: a little darker, but you know, it's probably been in 137 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: there six seven years. But it looks great. And the 138 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: engine's got the train has got to anybody, anybody talked 139 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: to you about service. Bulletin's no, okay, there's more this. 140 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: This bulletin appears. I'll give you the base number. You 141 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: got a pencil, No, I don't. But I'm heading towards 142 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: the right now, all right, head towards one of you 143 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: know you can always The beauty of this radio show 144 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: is after the show goes out live, like you're hearing 145 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: it now, We're always available on podcast. You can go 146 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: to car Doctor show dot com and download the podcast. 147 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: You would be an hour one in the first in 148 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: the first fifteen minutes depending on how long this call goes. 149 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: But you want to get your hands on bulletin Oh 150 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: three dish oh seven dish thirty dish oh two oh, 151 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: I can do that again, sure two for a nickel, Uh, 152 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: say when you're ready, okay, because otherwise I was gonna 153 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: have to hump because it has to be live radio. 154 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: People have to hear me. And my hump is not. 155 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: I trawl lot better than I hum, you know, la 156 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: la al Right, So anyway, technical bulletin number O three 157 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: O seven thirty dash O two oh, and I believe 158 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: there's a B. There might even be a C by now. 159 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: This goes all the way back to two thousand three 160 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: and two thousand four model year. And this bulletin will 161 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: the title of this bulletin is gonna be are you ready? 162 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: Transmission has a harsh one to shift, a slipping one 163 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: to shift followed by a harsh engagement. It's an either 164 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: or and right out of the factory, I mean right 165 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: out of the gate, these transits had problems and they 166 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: wanted you to change the PC solnoid, the pressure control solenoid, 167 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: and reprogram the PCM to a reflesh. My nah, that's 168 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: something to repair shops gotta dough. So you know that's 169 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: what I would. I would, and you know my curiosity 170 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: would be if in two thousand eight when you bought this, 171 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: was this done prior And there's almost you know, unless 172 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: you know history going back, there's almost no way to tell. 173 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: The only way you can tell is somebody's gonna have 174 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: to take up a scan tool, going with a tech 175 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: too and look at current software levels and see get 176 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: out the tist to web and and look to see 177 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: it does this have a Windows update so to speak? 178 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Is there is there a software update for this? And 179 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: if the software update is legitimate and has to be done, 180 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna tell you the pressure control solinoid probably 181 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: hasn't been done all right now, Now the big problem 182 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: here is two thousand miles this this could already be 183 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: done because it just went through two thousand three. What 184 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: are we fifteen years old? Sixteen years old? It had 185 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen years of harsh shifts and a a repair 186 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: wasn't performed. That you know kind of abuse the trends. 187 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: Let's face it. You know, if if if you got 188 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: if you got banged first and second all day long 189 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: for the last sixteen years you wouldn't walk right either. 190 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: Um you know, your knees were hurt, your back would hurt. 191 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: You'd be like, what the heck is going on? The 192 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: trans camp be in any much better shape? So you 193 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: know it's you may be headed towards the trans anyway. 194 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: What what my concern overall is, I'm not hearing anybody 195 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: talk about any kind of diagnosis. I mean, the one 196 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: shop wanted to do with diagnosis, and you said it 197 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: was expensive to find expensive, Steve, what do they want 198 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: und fifty bucks bucks to bring it in and leave 199 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: us for the day? All right? I gotta tell you 200 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: if if you know, you're a Wisconsin so I don't 201 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: know what their labor rate is, but I assume everybody 202 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: works on a hundred dollar an hour labor rate. That's 203 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: where most of the country is at a hundred bucks. 204 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: That's two and a half hours of time. And you 205 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: know I would be a little upset if the answer 206 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: came back to, well, it needs to trans. I can 207 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: tell you right now, two or ten thousand miles fifteen 208 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: years old probably needs a trans and targe to fifty 209 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: dollars to tell you that. Um, I would be looking 210 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: for hey, you know, is there a simpler or less 211 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: expensive alternative than in putting you know, into this truck? Right, 212 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: And that's my point. So you know, I would I 213 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: would clearly take it to. Now, you could take it 214 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: to a regular mechanic that's got the ability to flash 215 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: all right, if he's got the ability to pull flash programming, 216 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: he can tell you current software level and get your 217 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: hands on that bolt and read it and decide, you know, 218 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: is this applicable to the truck. But I would, I 219 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: would clearly start that out. Um, And that's where I 220 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: would start now to make to make the argument to 221 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: keep the truck and to spend the money. Do you 222 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: really need the truck? This is where I turned tables 223 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: on you Do you really need the truck? I have 224 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: to have to try. Okay, so you have to have 225 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: the truck. Have you priced vehicle? And I love to truck. 226 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: Have you priced out a new trucks yet? Yeah? Yeah, 227 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: that's send off for a long time. So that's where 228 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: I'm going here. Yeah, it's you know, it's every time 229 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: I think maybe it's time to go out and buy 230 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: a vehicle. It's been uh, you know, it's been ten years, 231 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: twelve years, fifteen years whatever, and I go out and 232 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like, it's not that it's expensive, 233 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: but I've had phone numbers with less numbers in it, 234 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: and I just keep thinking to myself, like, holy count 235 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: fifty grand for a base pickup truck. Uh, yeah, I 236 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: gotta really need it. Um, I've I've really got to 237 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: need it. So, um, you know, just food for thought. 238 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: But get your hands on that bulletin, stay away from 239 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: the guy that just wants to throw parts at it, 240 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: and find somebody that will at least scan at the 241 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: baseline and work your way out on diagnosis. From there. 242 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be talking a little bit about some diagnosis 243 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: I did this week in the shop, and it's kind 244 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: of like along these lines. I'll try to do it 245 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: this hour if you if you can stick around, if 246 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: you want to grab the podcast later, but uh, you know, 247 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: sometimes it's it's what I know. Yeah, absolutely, babe. You 248 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: have a good rest of the weekend and let us 249 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: know how it works out. Eight zero nine zero zero 250 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: we're on nating the car doctor coming back right after 251 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: this number time right it on the wall, so you 252 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: don't forget to call for car advice, done right, eight 253 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: five five five zero zero zero now factor on. Hey, 254 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: let's get over and talk to Al from Brand New Wine? 255 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Where's brand New Wine? L in the ning? Nin niean 256 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: set about ten miles south of Washington, d C. Cool 257 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: Bean's brother. What's what's going on? How can I help 258 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: you today? UM? I wanted to well, first of all, 259 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: thanks for your informative show. Always enjoyed listening to it. 260 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: And um, I wanted to comment about a discussion you 261 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: had last week on the p O four two oh 262 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: uh catalytic converter efficiency code. And you had mentioned how 263 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: that code came up in somebody's car and it turned 264 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: out there was nothing wrong with the catalytic converter, but 265 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: instead it was a leak in the exhaust system. And 266 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: that reminded me of exactly similar experience that I had. 267 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: I bought a used car about ten years ago. It 268 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: was throwing a p O four two oh code and 269 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: to make a long story short, it turned out to 270 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: be that the front oxygen center was getting lazy and 271 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: UH if you looked at the data stream on a 272 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: on a scanner, you could see the front ox that censor, 273 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: especially at idle when the thing cooled off. A little 274 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: bit um it would stop switching. If you rebbed it 275 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: up to two or three grand, it would switch, you know, 276 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: a hundred mill of votes, nine dred mill of votes, 277 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: back and forth. But at Idol it was thought to 278 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: slow down, and for a couple of seconds it actually stopped. 279 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: And of course once it's stopped and put out a 280 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: constant voltage, then it looks just like the rear oxygen sensor. 281 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: And the computer says, oh, front oxygen sensor looks like 282 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: the rear oxygen sensors. Al must be that's absolutely right. 283 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: And um, so you know the moral of the story is, 284 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: um that just because you get a code doesn't tell 285 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: you what the fix. That just tells you what that's failed. 286 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: And now you gotta go figure out what happened. So 287 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: I put a fifty dollar oxygen sensor in it. And 288 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: it's ten years later and a hundred forty thousand miles later, 289 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: and there's never been a check engine light. Sense well, 290 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: and and sometimes and you're absolutely right, and sometimes it's 291 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: got to come back to common sense. You have to 292 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: sit there and say, you know this was this is 293 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: what would you say ten years ago? Well, and and 294 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: the car had forty thousand miles on it. It had 295 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: just under a hundred thousand miles on it, okay, And 296 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 1: you know, even at a hundred thousand miles, it's you know, 297 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: you say to yourself, gee, it's awfully young to be 298 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: going through a cat at that stage. You know, if 299 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: a car's got a hundred thousand miles on it, it's 300 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: going through a cat. Oh yeah, okay, I guess. I 301 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: guess to a degree it can go bed. But by 302 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: the same token, you know, what made it go bed. 303 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: A cat is a cat is a victim of so 304 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: much abuse that for all the work that it has 305 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: to do, what's driving that cat and killing it to death? 306 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: And people don't want to look at that. I had. 307 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: I had a twelve Chevy Equinox this week that the 308 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: customers complaint was when it's cold, the driver's window was 309 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: slow going up between two and three inches off the 310 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: top of the door, and then after that it was okay. 311 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't duplicate it really because it was Tuesday and 312 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: was naturally or Wednesday, it was naturally the warmest day 313 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: of the week this past week here in North Jersey. 314 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: So I I sat there and I looked at it 315 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: and I said, well, and I could see how it 316 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: was just you know, it was a little sluggish at 317 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: that point, even in the warm weather. And I'm going 318 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: forty eight thousand miles on the car. Bad window regulator 319 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't doesn't see it doesn't sound right to me. 320 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: Shot three dollars worth of silicon down the rubber tracks 321 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: worked it in a couple of times. I don't know 322 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: it's been called since Wednesday. I haven't heard from the customer. 323 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: I gotta call them Monday. But I think it's fixed. 324 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: For you know, you've got to look at age and mileage, 325 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: and it can't always be that every car has got 326 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: a bad part. There's gotta be a reason why it failed, 327 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: unless it's staring in the face the leaky water pump 328 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: for the bearing that's noisy or something like that. Uh yeah, 329 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: let me let me add one other really interesting feature 330 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: to this story. I bought the car from a charity, 331 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: one of these places where people donate a car and 332 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: then the charity sells the car for whatever they can 333 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: get and they use the money for whatever cause they're supporting. 334 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I can't prove this, but I am absolutely convinced that 335 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: the people who owned this car how the check engine 336 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: light come on. They went to some jack leg and 337 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: a gas station who put a code reader in things. 338 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: He's a mechanic, said, oh, pup four to old bear, 339 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: I kind of want to convert at all, kind of 340 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: want to convert a hundred thousand miles exhaust system must 341 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: be all rusted up. And he probably ran up some 342 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: two thousand dollar rest of it. They didn't know any better. 343 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: They didn't want to spend two thousand dollars on a 344 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: on a car that had close to a hundred thousand miles. 345 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: They couldn't sell it with a check engine light on, 346 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: so they donated to a charity. So they threw away 347 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: a car that had at least ten more years and 348 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: at least a hundred forty thousand miles in its because 349 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: they couldn't find anybody smart enough to figure out that 350 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: it was a fifty dollars And I and I and 351 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: I see that all the time too, And that's what's 352 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: wrong with this industry. The pretenders and the pokers and 353 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: the hoopers. To use a phrase that I think you're 354 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: familiar with, good mechanics aren't expensive, their priceless. I've heard that, 355 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: I've heard that that's um. But that's that's that's the truth. 356 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: And you know the same part is I I a 357 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: matter of fact, I've got a I've got a bit 358 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: of a nightmare coming in this week Tuesday. I've got 359 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: a I think it's an oh three niece, I'm sorry, 360 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: a two thousand Nissan Frontier. The gentleman bought the car 361 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: used car lot uh somewhere around here in North Jersey. 362 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: Bought a used car a lot. It had a check 363 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: engine light on. The salesman said, don't worry, we'll get 364 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: it through inspection for you will fix it. Uh. Thirty 365 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: days later, they dropped it off on the guy's front doorstep. 366 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: And he's been everywhere and everybody's looked at it, and 367 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: everybody's tried throwing parts at it. And he came in 368 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: yesterday and he was very nice guy Rick, and he 369 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: asked me, says, listen, are you looking to take on 370 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: any more work. My first answer was no, But you 371 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: know I heard the story. My heart went out to him. 372 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be you know, it's another case of 373 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: somebody waving their arms telling him how bad the vehicle is. 374 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: I told him, I said, I'll give you everything I've 375 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: got I'll tell you what's going on. Really for sure. 376 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: You may not like the answer, but you know, diagnosed, diagnosed, diagnosed, 377 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: and that's what we're gonna do Tuesday and Wednesday. Will 378 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: probably talk about it next week. And it's it's sad 379 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: because there's people who are afraid to diagnose things. I 380 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: just don't think they want to take the time to 381 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: look at it. They just want to throw parts at 382 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: it and sell it all. I appreciate the call very 383 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: very much, and it's good to hear from a listener. 384 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: And I always got to hear from listeners and a 385 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: long term or like you, And I'm glad it worked 386 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: out for you. That yeah, sometimes simple right, Like my 387 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: college professor said, keep it simple, sir as, I like 388 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: to rephrase it. So but anyway, um, zero run any 389 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: of the car doctor, I'm coming back to diagnose your 390 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: problem right after this. When the family car needs some fixing, 391 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: there's only two things that really matter, getting the right 392 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: part and getting some good advice. It's a pretty safe 393 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: bet that, with over a million parts in stock, pet 394 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: Boys has the right part right now. The pet Boys 395 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: pros are extensively trained to find the right part for 396 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: just about any car truck better. Yet, these pros can 397 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: also handle the entire installation or service needed. It's always 398 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: good to have options and no the Pep Boys pros 399 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: have that covered either way. For the best in car advice, 400 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: give Ronic call eight five five zero zero zero now 401 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: factor on. I was working on a dodged durrangle the 402 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: other day and I came across a really interesting UH 403 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: Conversation bulletin piece of technical information they refer to off 404 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: draw ignition off draw io D as they're trying to 405 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: get it down to the point where, let me explain it. 406 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: If you got a car that's got a dead battery, 407 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: one of the things the mechanics should be saying to 408 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: you is obviously, load test the battery, make sure it's 409 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: in a good state of charge. And if it's not 410 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: in a good state of charge, we're gonna talk about 411 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: that in a minute to I've got something else from 412 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: the folks overt associated I want to bring up. But 413 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: an ignition off draw is the actual measurement of how 414 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: much of a current draw there is on the battery 415 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: to determine as it excessive, is it within spec And 416 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: Chrysler has written a very nice conversation here. They talk 417 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: about ignition off draw and they get it down to 418 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: very specific things, how a radio is one to three 419 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: milliamps and power amplifier is up to a millionamp here 420 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: and and and so on. But what's what's interesting is 421 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: they want it down again. Fifty milliams is where we 422 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: consider it to be, you know, spec Okay, they're calling 423 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: for they'd like to see between five and thirty five milliampires, 424 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: which is you know, thinking this of a hair down 425 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: to um in terms of electrical current, very very small 426 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: and tiny. And it just shows the article showed the 427 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: Bolleton showed how critical we need to think in terms 428 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: of we're looking at electrical and charging systems, uh, you know, 429 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: battery condition, alternator capability, and then what sort of electrical 430 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: load we've got on the system when the key is 431 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: off ignition off draw as they put it. And it 432 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: makes me think about all these add on accessories that 433 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: we're putting into cars and you know, the ability to 434 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: hook them up right and then can they create a 435 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: draw And it's it's just critical, So make sure you 436 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: have some I'm gonna try and see if there's a 437 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: way I can post this article as a generic conversation 438 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: upon Facebook. Excuse me to get it out on the 439 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: Facebook page, because I think it's worth reading for everybody 440 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: that it just shows you the accuracy required and the 441 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: issues that can be created from very simple things that 442 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: that could possibly go rolling end up with a dead battery. Um, 443 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: because batteries are just handling of batteries. I can't stress 444 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: it enough. The battery is really the heart and soul 445 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: of the electrical system and of the car. The folks 446 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: over at Associated Associated Equipment you find them out on 447 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: the web, Associated equip dot com. Uh, they've come out 448 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 1: with a new battery charger. Or listen to this thing. 449 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: It sounds like we're talking about a new car, alright. 450 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: It's got four by twenty digital display. It can be 451 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: three language options, polarity indicated, and protected with a deeper 452 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: It safely charges batteries um A g M lithium I 453 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: on HB deep cell gel Gel sells fully automatic or 454 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: manual charging modes O E M Vehicle Manufacturing and Battery 455 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: Manufacturing Approved. Can you imagine we've got cars now where 456 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: you've got to go to the MANU facturer and say, 457 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: is this battery charger? Okay? To use on your Honda, 458 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: your Toyota, your GM, your Ford and so on. And 459 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: they've got that adjustable charging voltage. This thing sounds like 460 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: we're launching an F sixteen, and it's it's it's a 461 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: battery charger. It's got two wheels and a handle, all right, 462 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: overcharge protection, weather proof. Are you sure we're not talking 463 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: about uh an F sixteen made in the USA? Well, 464 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: thank gosh for that. UM automatically sets charging level in 465 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: time of charge, deep discharge recovery of sulfated batteries. Wow. UM, 466 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: latest battery charger coming out from the folks overt associated 467 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: Associated equip dot com. Just you know, we take a 468 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: lot for granted. Just throw a battery in the car. 469 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: That's my favorite conversation. Just put a battery in it. 470 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: What could it take? Well, you know, we had that 471 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: this week real quick and then I'll go back to 472 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: the phones. Had that this week. Had a two thousand 473 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: and ten Ford Fusion towed in absolutely stone dead, nothing 474 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: out of the battery dead, gone forget it all right, 475 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: And I said to him, I'm gonna take up a 476 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: half hour to forty five minutes of time. I'm going 477 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: to verify the battery if it needs a battery, We're 478 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: putting a battery in it, and then I'm going to 479 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: do a draw test. The draw test on this Ford Fusion, 480 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: monitoring it using a voltmeter, all right, took twenty eight minutes. 481 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: It took twenty eight minutes for that battery to get 482 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: down where the the the ignition off draw was down 483 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: under fifty milliams. And you know you've got to monitor, 484 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: You've got to watch it. It's not that simple to 485 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: throw a battery in a car anymore. The only thing 486 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: you can throw in a car is maybe something in 487 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: the trunk or the back seat. Other than that, you 488 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: got to test it. Let's go over and do some 489 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: testing and talking ourselves. Let's go and talk to Jerry 490 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: in Northern Minnesota. I guess that isn't a third team 491 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: Dodge Avenger. Jerry, Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How 492 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: can I help ye on this on Dodge Avenger. It 493 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: has on the heater system, has good heat on the 494 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: defroster and the heater on the floor on the driver's 495 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: side on a passenger side to defroster in the heater 496 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: are ice cold? What's going on? Okay? The thirteen Avenger, Well, 497 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: let me talk about the twelves and the elevens. Alright. 498 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: The earlier Avengers only had one blend door actuator, all right, 499 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: and same with you. I believe a thirteen only has 500 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: one blend door, all right. But I always say this 501 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: cautiously because then I've heard stories where there's two. Al Right. 502 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: It seems that this is a split year for christ 503 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: so from the information I'm seeing, so I always be 504 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm always cautious here. What this likely is is a 505 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: restriction in the heater core. As crazy as that sounds. 506 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: This if this is a one blend door vehicle, one 507 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: blend or or one servo control, I've seen restrictions in 508 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: the heater core affect heat out the passenger and the 509 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: froster side of the dashboard. All right. So you know 510 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: a couple of things. I want to scan it for codes, 511 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: all right. I want to look to see if there 512 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: any fault codes, anything pending. I'd like to see what 513 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: engine temperature is, just you know, see what the computer 514 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: sees its seeing, hut ten whatever, alright, get down, okay, 515 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: And then I'd like a thermometer in the in the 516 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: driver's side duct. I want to get a real number, 517 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: all right, D sixty eight, whatever the number is. And 518 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: then I want to I want a thermometer in the 519 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: passenger side, duck. I want to get a real number there. Okay, 520 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: Then I want to go to the heater core. If 521 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: if this is well, I'm sorry, let me back up. 522 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: The next step I want to go to is I 523 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: want to get out a wiring diagram, and I want 524 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: to see how many servos, how many door actuators are 525 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: listed for the vehicle by wiring diagram? All right, do 526 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean when I say blend or actuator? Jerry? Okay, 527 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: So look look at the front door to your house. 528 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: All right. If you want to let fresh air in, 529 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: you open the door, right, you want to keep the 530 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: fresh air out, you close the door. Now we're gonna 531 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: put an electric motor on top of one of the hinges. 532 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: You're at the you're at the dashboard. You turn the 533 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: heater knob all the way up. It opens the door 534 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: to let hot air blow across the heater core and 535 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: come out to the passenger and driver's side. Vince, all right, 536 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking that's that's the problem with this car. 537 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: But the Chrysler dealerships up here both of them insisted 538 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: they need a new heater car for it might. Oh 539 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: it might, because here's the catch. Then you do have 540 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: a one blend door system, all right. The only way, 541 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: the only way that I can think of. We go 542 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: through all those other things and everything comes out to 543 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: test the way I asked for. It comes out to 544 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: be correct. If this is a one blend door system, 545 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: then it's likely a bad heater core, and the the 546 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: test for that. I mean, they could also try flushing 547 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: and back flushing the core to see if it makes 548 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: any difference. One of the dealers did that made no difference, 549 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: then I would I would concur with them. If this 550 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: is a one blend or vehicle, this is likely a 551 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: bad heater COREP Yeah, I supposedly this is a problem 552 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: with the Avengers. Chrysler is having a nationwide problem with these. 553 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: I talked to the factory. I talked to Chrysler itself 554 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: twice now over the past couple of years, and they 555 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: insist that they're not going to do anything for us 556 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: about it. It's said, it is this day and age 557 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: of twenty one century, we really have cars out on 558 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: the road with malfunctioning heaters. It's it's ridiculous. How many 559 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: miles on the car, Jerry, right now, there's seventy two thousand. 560 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: I bought it when used into miles and that first 561 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: winter we noticed it was something wrong. Is the second 562 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: winter this is going on and the dealers and insist 563 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: their in the heater car and I'm taking it to 564 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: another good mechanic here on Wednesday. I'm going to see 565 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: what he says. I'll mention this blend do all. He 566 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: mentioned me that this door business already door and I 567 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: think that's the first thing he's going to look at. 568 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: But like I said, if this is a to blend 569 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: door system, then I'm thinking door actuator. But I you know, 570 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: well I can't really say either. I'd have to look 571 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: at a wiring diagram based on the vent of the vehicle. Um, 572 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: this this could be an either or. But just you know, 573 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: if you do end up going with a heater cord 574 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: at the dealer, your your your last question after how 575 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: much and they already told you nine bucks, is are 576 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: you sure this is going to fix the problem? Yeah? 577 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: Good question, right, Yeah. I always like to ask that question. Uh, 578 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, I always like to put that question in 579 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: there when somebody tells me it's a widget. Okay, I'm 580 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: willing to pay the freight for a widget. Can you 581 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: promise me that that's it? And I listened to their answer. Well, 582 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm going on websites concerning these cars, and the websites 583 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: are seeing that there's a casting sand and the engine 584 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: that's phone this way into these uh, the heater cars. 585 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: That's why, that's why, that's why the flush and back 586 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: flush works sometimes. Okay, Now, let let me ask you 587 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: the dealer that did the back flush, no change at 588 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: all afterwards? No nothing. I couldn't tell anything. You know, 589 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: it didn't make any difference, you know. I Well, whatever, listen, Jerry, 590 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: do this, call me back next week. Let me know 591 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: what the mechanic says. Let me know what you end 592 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: up doing. I'm curious. I'll do that. Ron sir, all right, 593 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: you take good care and stay warm up there in 594 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: snowy Minnesota. Eight five five zero nine zero zero. Run 595 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor coming back right after this. 596 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: That's right. If you call and we're not live, you 597 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: can leave a message and we'll call you back to 598 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: get you on the air with Ron. Eight five five 599 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron, here, he is, 600 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: let's get over and talk to Lisa in Minnesota. Two 601 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: thousand four, one fifty. Lisa, you're out of the car, doctor, 602 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: How can I help Hi? I can't believe you've got 603 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: two of us from northern Minnesota on back to back. 604 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: It must be a snowy day and there's nothing else 605 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: to do up there. I guess maybe, all right, it's 606 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: gonna snow again tomorrow, or snow just melted often this 607 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: last week and a half, so now we're gonna get 608 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: dumped on next week and it's gonna get cold again. 609 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: That's like the national sport up there, right. Yeah. Anyway, 610 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: my son's got a two thousand Ford f one fifty 611 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the oil gauge is doing 612 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: weird things. And I don't think it has anything to 613 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: do with the pressure, because when he starts it up 614 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: in the morning and the engine is cold, it goes 615 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: and drops all the way below the no oil pressure 616 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: line and the dummy light comes on and it stays there. 617 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: Last time I rode with him, it stayed there for 618 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes, but it was a really cold morning, 619 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking, Okay, the engine starting to warm up 620 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it didn't just slowly rise up. 621 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: It popped. It went up, and it went up to 622 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: where it belonged. The light shut off, and that just 623 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: about it fast. It popped right back down to no 624 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: oil pressure. Light came back on, and it did this 625 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: pop up and pop down thing for about three or 626 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: four minutes, and then it finally stayed where we believe 627 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: the oil pressure is anyway, you know where it says 628 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: it's good, and the lights off, and then it stayed 629 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: there the rest of the day. But if he shuts 630 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: the truck off for twenty minutes, it'll do it all 631 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: over again, he says, if if he if he starts, 632 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: if he goes to the store and comes out, it 633 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 1: will be normal. But if he leaves the truck not 634 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: running for twenty minutes like he's grocery shopping, comes back out, 635 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: it'll start all over again. You'll see he has no 636 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: oil pressure, no no sounds from the engine, nothing strange, 637 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: no mechanical noise, no tapping, no nothing, no nothing. And 638 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: I know what the low oil pressure should sound like, 639 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: and his engine makes no funky noises whatsoever. Um At 640 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: the oil pressure switch's gonna be a white red wire, 641 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: a white wire with a red trace. Um, you verify 642 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: that's there, you should be able to jump or that 643 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: to ground. If you jump that to ground, okay, Um 644 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: the gauge, the gauge should come up and read like 645 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: you sort of expected to in the I don't go 646 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: out if if if that's the case, then we've either 647 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: got loss of oil pressure in the engine, which I 648 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: don't think you do, or a bad oil pressure switch. 649 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: All right. The fact that it's not making any mechanical noise, 650 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: that it's got no tapping that you know. I mean, 651 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: I've had cars with no oil pressures because he said, 652 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: told him it could be a dirty oil filter, so 653 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: he got the oil changed. It was doing this a 654 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: thousand miles before the oil change, and now it's continued 655 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: to do it after. So right, I would I would. 656 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: I would be willing to bet it's a switch. However, 657 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: and I want to put a caveat there. I have 658 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: seen more than a few problems with the Ford instrument 659 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: clusters that generation Ford truck. So it would be nice 660 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: if grounding the wire, you know, brought it up to 661 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: mid scale or wherever you expect to see it, and 662 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: it stayed there while he drove around. That tells us 663 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: that the cluster itself is capable of seeing a good 664 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: signal and that it's the signal from the switch. If 665 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: grounding the wire doesn't correct the condition, and then we've 666 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: got to look further up the line. Do we have 667 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: an open or a problem with the wire itself or 668 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: does he have a problem with the cluster. But let's 669 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: get through step one first and then give me a 670 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: call back and we can talk about it, all right. 671 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be just for the record, I wouldn't 672 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: be violently opposed to sticking a mechanical gauge in place 673 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: of the sender just so I can see what the 674 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: pressure is. But I again, no noise, and you know 675 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: it's the center is probably cheap enough. Just make sure 676 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: he gets a good quality piece that Um, you're probably 677 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: gonna find out this is gonna be a center, But 678 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: grounding that white red wire will do it for you. 679 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: So um, let's give that a try and give me 680 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: a call back. A five five zero nine zero zero. 681 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: We're on any of the car doctor coming back right 682 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: after this when you get keep Ron's number hand five 683 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: five five zero zero zero for when you really needed 684 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: vice on your car, welcome back. I you know, I'm 685 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: not sure how well this is gonna translate out on radio. 686 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: I was gonna try and do this on Facebook, but 687 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I can, so I'm gonna talk about 688 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: it here. I had a two thousand three Chevy astro 689 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: van this week at the shop that was towed in 690 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: for a no story condition. No crank, no nothing, turned 691 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: the key, not a peep out of it. Now, a 692 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: lot of people would sit there and say, well, it's 693 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: a battery or it's a starter, and I guess that's easy, 694 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: and that's not what was wrong with this, and they 695 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: get burned and they wouldn't look past you know. I 696 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: got to look for some basics, all right. I got 697 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: in the truck, turned the key on, and I had 698 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: no dash lights and I had no voltmeter, and I 699 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: thought that was interesting. And I turned the key forward 700 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: and nothing, no click, nothing, no sound out of the truck, 701 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: had headlights, had power windows, had strong headlights. So I said, well, 702 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: it can't be a battery. And I went through my 703 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: due diligence and I looked at you know, I low 704 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: tested the battery. It was fine. The battery. One battery 705 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: Turmino was a little dirty. I cleaned the acid off 706 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: of it, and not a big deal. Long story short, 707 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: I got out of power and ground distribution wiring diagram 708 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: and I sat down and I looked at it, and 709 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: I said, how does the starter get power? But more importantly, 710 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: how does that one voultmeter get power? And where are 711 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: my dash warning lights? And when I looked at it, 712 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: I was able to determine that ignition a few The 713 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: forty M fuse in the underhood fuse block was the 714 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: one leg of the circuit that was feeding those three 715 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: or four critical components. Sure enough, found a blown forty 716 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: AM fuse and a shorter purple solenoid feed wire going 717 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: down to the starter, and that was the rude cause 718 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: of a diagnosed I'm on a card doctor at the 719 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: mechanics trying expensive the prices