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Speaker 1: This is Larry Seals to what the Houston Texas in

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Speaker 1: this the NFL Report. Welcome into the NFL Report, and

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Speaker 1: that's fitting Steve Larmie Tunzell offensive lineman. We have a

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Speaker 1: ton of offensive linemen and offensive line talk in this game.

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Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger's Baldy's favorite films. He's a former offensive line.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna talk about the Lions and the Steelers and

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Speaker 1: the Browns offensive line and mentioning that left guard all pro.

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Speaker 1: Joel Antonio joins the show and talks about his new quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson. Also Agent eighty nine. Steve Smith joins

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Speaker 1: the show, talking about his favorite wide receivers in the

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Speaker 1: game right now in terms of yards after the catch.

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Speaker 1: Also Pep Talk. Pep Hamilton me with us a lot

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Speaker 1: of offensive coordinator talks.

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Speaker 2: Steve.

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Speaker 1: You got Ken Dorsey losing his job and you got

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Speaker 1: Thomas Brown losing his play calling duties. Pep Hamilton breaks

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Speaker 1: all that down.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Jay Pee. But there's no bigger news in

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Speaker 2: the NFL this week.

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Speaker 3: The Ron back Deshaun Watson has a fracture in his

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Speaker 3: shoulder that's going to require immediate surgery. He's out for

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Speaker 3: the season. Let's hear the Browns quarterback about this development.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be a couple months and you know, biggest

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Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I'm gonna be working with some

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Speaker 4: great doctors and great staff that's dealt with this process before,

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Speaker 4: with a lot of professional baseball guys, and you know,

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Speaker 4: make sure that you know I'll come back, you know,

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Speaker 4: even better than before.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to come back even better than before.

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Speaker 3: The long term projection here for Deshaun Watson, who this

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Speaker 3: team again has committed two hundred and thirty million guaranteed

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Speaker 1: Well, let's say this right up front. When you mentioned

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Speaker 1: the money, Steve, Deshaun Watson's not going anywhere because of

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Speaker 1: the cap hit that he has. I think it's around

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Speaker 1: sixty three million per year starting next season. Obviously they

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Speaker 1: dropped that number two about nineteen this season. They can

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Speaker 1: that money, as you mentioned, is fully guaranteed. So Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson is there. He will be getting the money what

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Speaker 1: everybody in Cleveland and around the NFL is curious about

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Speaker 1: is if are we ever going to see Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: play at the level we saw him play in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: his final year in Houston. I covered him a bunch

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Speaker 1: of that season and on a terrible team, no receivers,

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Speaker 1: no defense, no anything. He was the best maybe quarterback

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Speaker 1: in football in twenty twenty Steve when he led the

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Speaker 1: NFL in passing, completed over seventy percent of his passes,

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Speaker 1: also had thirty three touchdowns to seven interceptions, and they

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Speaker 1: went four and twelve. He put that team on his back,

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Speaker 1: and he performed brilliantly. That's the type of player the

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Speaker 1: Browns thought they were getting. Now, in twelve games that

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Speaker 1: he has played in the next three seasons between twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, which he didn't play, played six after this

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Speaker 1: all he'll play. His stats are this he has as

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Speaker 1: I look for it and find it, Steve, he has

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Speaker 1: passing yards, fourteen touchdowns, and nine interceptions. That's nowhere near

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Speaker 1: what we saw in twenty twenty. My thought is, Steve

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Speaker 1: quarterback is about feel. Quarterback is about feel. A lot

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Speaker 1: of the time he used to have that with this

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Speaker 1: little play over three seasons, will that feel ever return

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Speaker 1: get it there? Because this is a better Browns team

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, and this is a legitimate question, are

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Speaker 3: we going to see in his early thirties, thirty one

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Speaker 3: years old whatever, when he comes back the same player.

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Speaker 3: Who's to say he might not be better? You know,

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Speaker 3: we're seeing quarterbacks play into the late thirties. Maybe this

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Speaker 3: to build a better team. Because that kind of leads

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Speaker 3: us into a discussion I want to have. You know,

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Speaker 3: Show James. In the back half of that game against Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been through it before. They lost Nick Chubb early,

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Speaker 1: they lost Jack Conflin. I think this team has proven

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Speaker 1: that they can be gritty. They're still in the playoff

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, they can be physical, they can

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Speaker 1: when you look at them long term, I do think

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Speaker 1: I expect high level play, competing for the division and

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Speaker 2: More laughing stock with the head coach Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 3: He came in and brought stability and a great staff

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Speaker 2: They've been drafting high for two decades in the top ten.

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Speaker 2: They haven't been able to retain those players.

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Speaker 3: Now the development we're seeing it and now we're probably

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Speaker 3: We've seen in terms of talent, and the fact that

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Speaker 3: I think as an organization, they've actually been able to

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Speaker 1: This is the Jacksonville Jaguars of last year. Steve Right

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence or at C. J. Stroud is a real

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Speaker 3: The reasons the main reason why is the leadership. We

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Speaker 3: So when you get to the skill position, guys, you

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Speaker 3: it's the grunts in the interior that are the main

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Speaker 3: focus of this team. All right, JP, No more laughing

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna talk to their All Pro left guard, Joel.

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Speaker 3: Buttonio, more about the short term and long term of

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Speaker 1: into it this week with the loss of your starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback Deshaun Watson after just a brilliant second half by

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Speaker 1: You've played with him as your quarterback in a game,

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Speaker 5: As an offense, he was just locked in.

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Speaker 6: You know, I saw this morning he was real focus

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Speaker 6: obviously disappointing for everybody. You know, we thought we were

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Speaker 6: taking some really good steps as a team. But Dorian

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Speaker 6: our defense is playing really well right now. We have

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Speaker 6: But the confidence was there, and I think he's ready

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Speaker 3: Joe, Before we continue to push forward, I do have

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Speaker 3: to ask you this because there were some I don't

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Speaker 3: who who questioned Deshaun Watson's toughness a couple of weeks

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Speaker 3: ago about his shoulder does he really want to play?

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Speaker 1: You guys have that as a team though, Joe, you

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Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, I think I think every train coming through

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Speaker 1: Joe, with all of that said, you're sitting in the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for me, you know, I love to hear the

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Speaker 6: We don't do anything, you know, out of the world.

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Speaker 3: So you guys lost to the Steelers in week two,

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Speaker 1: Let's say this, Joe, your your defensive front has been

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Speaker 6: Well, I've got to see it in practice, which is

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Speaker 5: Let's let's double team here.

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Speaker 6: But you know, coach Swarks, Coach Swartz does a good

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Speaker 3: All I've talked to players who've done it, coaches who've

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Speaker 6: will run the ball, take our shots when we can

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Speaker 6: get the ball to Mari, get the bar ball to

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Speaker 6: David Jerome for has been running the ball well for us.

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Speaker 6: Kareem getting those touchdowns. So we have our weapons too,

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Speaker 6: And I wouldn't even say pressure. We just want to

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Speaker 6: do our one eleventh, do our job out there at

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Speaker 6: play commmentary football and and uh, you know, see what happens,

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Speaker 6: you know, one week at a time.

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Speaker 1: All right, before we finish this out, Joel, I have

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Speaker 1: to ask you, I'm not trying to look back and

446
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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs right in that situation, I'm looking forward. Obviously

447
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Speaker 1: he was a teammate of yours and you spent some

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Speaker 1: time with him. What's is your take on what he's

449
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Speaker 1: been able to do the last couple of weeks in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota just as a football fan and probably a friend

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Speaker 1: of his.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's been so impressive.

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Speaker 6: You know, I got to spend a lot of time

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Speaker 6: with him last year and then obviously this year before

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Speaker 6: before he traded him away. But first off, he's a

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Speaker 6: great person, like you know, one of one type people,

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Speaker 6: and you love to see him do really well. And

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Speaker 6: then I mean you look at it even at the

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Speaker 6: end of last year when he you know, played for

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Speaker 6: Tennessee for a little bit, he was in Cleveland obviously,

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Speaker 6: and then he's been traded, you know, on three different

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Speaker 6: teams already this year. Like it's such a journey and

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Speaker 6: you know, I know he's taken it day by day,

464
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Speaker 6: but it's impressive. It talks to the person he is.

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Speaker 6: You know, he has the football talent, but the way

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Speaker 6: he attacks it, the way he learns, you know, gets

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Speaker 6: along with everybody. Truly, it's pretty special for him. And

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you know, hopefully you know, he's doing good

469
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Speaker 6: job and I'm rooting for him. So hopefull leaves the

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Speaker 6: Vikings to you know, a playoff berth and and does

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Speaker 6: some things there. But I think he'll look back on

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Speaker 6: this year and be like, man, that was a crazy

473
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Speaker 6: special year for him. But he's he's a great dude,

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Speaker 6: and uh, you know, we're all rooting for him.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, you guys have an opportunity to say it

476
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Speaker 3: is a crazy special year for YouTube. Man, we really

477
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Speaker 3: appreciate you taking the time. We're gonna call you the

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Speaker 3: Kaboosh now number seventy five, the last guy on the

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Speaker 3: train pushing things, pushing it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, man Man, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, guys, boos Man.

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Speaker 3: That is a great interview that you get on the

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Speaker 3: NFL Report.

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Speaker 2: You know what else you get.

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Speaker 1: Agent eighty nine.

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Speaker 3: That's right our own Steve Smith coming up after the

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Speaker 3: break here on the NFL Report.

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Speaker 7: I just get a win.

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Speaker 8: I just gotta win, so Bowie, but the win, so Bobie,

491
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Speaker 8: but the wind.

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Speaker 1: Talk about a game changing player. His first touch is

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Speaker 1: a professional.

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Speaker 3: Steve Smith called it hoodidiac by Steve Smith. That's that

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Speaker 3: stip barb again, are you.

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Speaker 7: Stop?

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Speaker 1: Smith? Players, Stepman can't be stopped.

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Speaker 2: You can't stop. I'm serious, all right.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the NFL Report, James. We are now

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Speaker 3: joined by that man who we just saw, Agent eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: And now are NFL Network colleague Steve Smith. Steve, what's up?

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Speaker 2: My brother?

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Speaker 9: Hey you guys doing man? My two favorite guys right here.

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Speaker 3: Hey there we are, Jbre This is too long. It

505
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Speaker 3: did take too long. And Steve, we know we only

506
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Speaker 3: have you for a limited time. Yo, Let's get right

507
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Speaker 3: into as we saw on the highlights there and anybody's watching,

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Speaker 3: career one the best catch and run receivers.

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Speaker 2: So we want to talk to you about who.

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Speaker 3: Are your favorite catch and run receivers in the NFL

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 9: Oh, you know, I always get in trouble when I

513
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Speaker 9: talk about wide receivers.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure why and how, but you know, I'll just

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Speaker 8: kind of try to keep it, you know, to the

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Speaker 8: tres of who I am right. But you know, one

517
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Speaker 8: of the guys I'm ultra happy and I love to

518
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Speaker 8: watch is the emergence of Brandon Ayuk with the Simpsus

519
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Speaker 8: Go forty nine ers because we know Deebo Samuels what

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Speaker 8: he presents to this offense and maybe you don't know,

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Speaker 8: so I will summarized Deebo Samuels presents the guy for

522
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Speaker 8: the Simpsons go for nine is the.

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Speaker 9: Ability to line up everywhere.

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Speaker 8: I believe you know, there's three or four games that

525
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Speaker 8: he hasn't been able to go. That's really put a

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Speaker 8: lot of pressure on Brandon Ayuk because Brandon Ayuk is

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Speaker 8: more of the surgeon for this offense and route running,

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Speaker 8: but Deebo Samuels lines up everywhere. I think last week

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Speaker 8: he had thirty nine snaps and he was lined up

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Speaker 8: outside outside why but he was also lined I think

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Speaker 8: about fifteen times in the in the slot, and then

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Speaker 8: he had about two or three in the backfield. There

533
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Speaker 8: have been times where he's had a total of fifty

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Speaker 8: seven offensive plays and yet been lined up in the

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Speaker 8: backfield seven or eight times, lined up in slot, also

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Speaker 8: even lined up in the in line next to the

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Speaker 8: tight ends. So they utilize him a lot and put

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Speaker 8: a lot of pressure on the offense, on the defense

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Speaker 8: with the RPO game, and what that has done for

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Speaker 8: Brandon Ayuk, it has allowed him to really get into

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Speaker 8: his route running. Brandon Ayuk. I saw this Brandon Aiyuk,

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Speaker 8: what I thought he could be when we you and I,

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Speaker 8: Steve Weis were talking about Arizona with Nikhil Harry and

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Speaker 8: when ni Kill Harry was coming out of college, the

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Speaker 8: guy who really called my eye that I thought would

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Speaker 8: surpass and be a more all around wide receiver was

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Speaker 8: Brandon Ayuk.

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Speaker 9: And if you don't belie, if you're.

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Speaker 8: Thinking I'm just capping, as the young people will say,

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Speaker 8: eighty nine doesn't cap sometimes I'm in trouble for two

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Speaker 8: real but I'm telling you, Brendan Ayu, I believe and

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Speaker 8: Debo make it mad at this, and you know, I

553
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Speaker 8: hope not, But I think Brendan Ayuk is the best

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Speaker 8: route runner on that team just because.

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Speaker 9: What he can do.

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Speaker 8: He's not big and pauls thick and the lower body

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Speaker 8: like Deebo Samuels. But when Kyle Shanahan finally allowed him

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Speaker 8: get out of the doghouse and understand that you coach

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Speaker 8: this kid differently compared to some of the other guys,

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Speaker 8: He's really coming to his own, like you said, averaging

561
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Speaker 8: seventeen and a half, so eighteen yards per reception. But

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Speaker 8: the man could just flat out play runs great routes,

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Speaker 8: sinks his helps, understands the leverage of the defender, utilizes

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Speaker 8: the great play calling by Kyle Shanahan and the tendencies,

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Speaker 8: and then he goes out there and just does what

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Speaker 8: he does weekend and week out, which is run exceptional routes.

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Speaker 1: He's slated to be a free agent, Steve, so can

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Speaker 1: he be a number one? If he's on another team?

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Speaker 9: Can he be? Can he be a number one? He

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Speaker 9: is a number one. I'm not sure what goes right.

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Speaker 9: He's the number one wide receiver.

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Speaker 8: I believe because of Deebo Samuels and the way this

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Speaker 8: office is constructed with the forty nine ers by cal

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Speaker 8: that it sometimes it gets a little wonky where you

575
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 8: don't really see his wide receiver one ability because they

576
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Speaker 8: have George Kettle pro bowler baller, you have Deebo Samuels,

577
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Speaker 8: pro bowler baller, they have c MC pro bowler baller,

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Speaker 8: and so he sometimes gets overshadowed. But this year there's

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Speaker 8: no overshadow on him. Let that man spread his wings

580
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Speaker 8: and go. And I don't believe they are gonna have

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Speaker 8: enough money on the roster and then the cat to

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Speaker 8: be able to pay him what he will get on

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Speaker 8: the open market.

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Speaker 3: Well, convintioning Steve, because the Niners did did reduce some

585
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Speaker 3: contracts where they're going to carry over forty one million

586
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Speaker 3: dollars onto next year's cap. So they might have done

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Speaker 3: that so they could resign Iyuk another player who to

588
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Speaker 3: me what we all know, he's number one wide receiver.

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00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: But Amon Ross ain't brown for the Detroit Lion.

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Speaker 5: Steve.

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Speaker 3: I mean when I when I watch him play, I

592
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: can't get enough for this guy. I want to get

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Speaker 3: your thoughts on him because to me, he's one of

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Speaker 3: the tougher wideouts in the NFL. We don't talk about

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Speaker 3: this guy enough.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we don't talk about him enough. He does an

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00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 8: exceptional job. He lines up all over the field. He

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00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 8: primarily lines up in the slot, and I think a

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Speaker 8: little bit of why and why they did not draft

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Speaker 8: any wide receivers in the top rounds is because Saint

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Speaker 8: Brown is that guy that plays in the slot. His

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00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 8: running catchability right, being a Cali kid out of USC

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00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 8: you saw what he can do. But he does have

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Speaker 8: the building to line up outside primarily. But the only

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Speaker 8: way he can really line up outside and impact in

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Speaker 8: the way he impacts in the slot. This is just

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Speaker 8: my tail of the tape is he has to use

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Speaker 8: his hands a little bit more because he's such has

609
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 8: such lower body strength and upper body strength.

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Speaker 9: You can see he's extremely muscular.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes he gets caught up with too much hand fighting,

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Speaker 8: and so they utilize the slot to get him off

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Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage and get him going because as

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Speaker 8: you see, as this b roll is running when he

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00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 8: gets the ball in his hands, his yak, his ability

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Speaker 8: to run through tackles, his ability to extend plays for

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Speaker 8: the quarterback that's standing the offense, to keep them ahead

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Speaker 8: of chains, and also to accumulate as many first downs

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Speaker 8: as possible. It's really just like seventy eleven. He's always open.

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Speaker 8: I put Saint Brown in the same category as Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 8: but because maybe he's playing in Detroit, he and the

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Speaker 8: quarterback situation, he doesn't get a lot of acculades or

623
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Speaker 8: a lot of fanfare, but I believe he's up there

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Speaker 8: with some of the top tier wide receivers in the

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Speaker 8: NFL right now.

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Speaker 1: See, I love you mentioned him alongside Jamar Chase. He's

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Speaker 1: another guy. I don't think the first guy there. The

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00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: first hat usually never takes Jamar Chase down. It's always

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Speaker 1: the second or third guy. He's another guy after the catch.

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Speaker 1: And I love that you mentioned to Monro Saint Brown

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Speaker 1: playing in the slot and moving him around. You and

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Speaker 1: I have talked about corners shadowing in today's game. I

633
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: had a conversation with Patrick Sartan a couple of weeks

634
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Speaker 1: ago about it when he did it to DeVante Adams

635
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Speaker 1: for a good trunk of time. But with the wave

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00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: receivers now go inside outside are moved all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Is a true like full game essentially shadow between a

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Speaker 1: dB and a receiver. Do you think those days are

639
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: kind of behind us in a sense with the wave

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Speaker 1: receivers are moved around.

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Speaker 7: That's a fantastic question.

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Speaker 8: And as I said, I was looking away as you

643
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 8: were saying that. I think it just depends on the coordinator.

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Speaker 8: Like Vic Bangeo is an outstanding defensive coordinator, has been

645
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Speaker 8: that way and been a defensive minded coach with some

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Speaker 8: of the best of them.

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Speaker 9: But if you look at his defenses, traditionally they don't follow.

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Speaker 8: And so that can sometimes undermine the ability and the

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Speaker 8: value of that corner when you're in a big Bangeo

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Speaker 8: style of defense. And when I'm saying Vic Bangio, vic

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00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 8: Bangio tree is large here at Carolina coach Everro, He's

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Speaker 8: a Vic Bangeo guy, right. They don't give up a

653
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 8: lot of touchdowns, but vivid Vigvangio's style of offense, traditionally

654
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Speaker 8: they give up a lot of yards, but they don't break.

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Speaker 9: They just been And when.

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Speaker 8: You have that, I believe Patrick Settan the second he

657
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Speaker 8: has really statistically taking a step back and doesn't get

658
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 8: a lot of credit. I watch a lot of film

659
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 8: on him. Man, that kid is just here's what it is.

660
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 8: He's a troublemaker.

661
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 9: Right when I.

662
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Speaker 8: Look at Patrick shirtin the way he plays, right, he's

663
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 8: the he is the kid in the neighborhood, right, Haijah

664
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Speaker 8: Purcejija Keys.

665
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Speaker 9: He has his pit bull walk across the street.

666
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Speaker 8: You go across the street. He is not playing with anybody.

667
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 8: He's a guy that makes you watch extra film. He

668
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 8: reminds me of a Darrell Reeves, a Champ Bailey. And

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Speaker 8: what do I mean by that is when I'm looking

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00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 8: at film, I don't want.

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Speaker 9: This year's film.

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00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 8: Give me their whole last two years of film. So

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00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 8: I can get enough data. And I need to be

674
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 8: studying a Patrick Shirtan the second. I need to study

675
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 8: him in the off season. I need all of his plays,

676
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 8: run pass specialty, what's his favorite.

677
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 9: Color, what season of year does he like? What is

678
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 9: his favorite candy?

679
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 8: I need all the information, good information, ancillary information, and

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Speaker 8: then some fun facts as well. Because Patrick said Tan

681
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Speaker 8: has the ability to be off coverage and still shut

682
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 8: you down and also be pressed up and shut you down.

683
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Speaker 9: And I don't think he gets enough credit. And so

684
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 9: I'm on record telling.

685
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Speaker 8: You he's he's a problem child man, he's troublemaker for

686
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Speaker 8: Wilde receiver.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Steve, I love that you compared him to Child

688
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: was a great film. Hey Steve, I love that.

689
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: You compared in the two Pro Football Hall of Famers.

690
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Speaker 3: And maybe he'll be joining you in Canton one day

691
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: because your time is coming to my brother. Appreciate you,

692
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: joint right, Appreciate you joints always insight.

693
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Speaker 2: Got to have you back.

694
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Speaker 1: All the best eighty nine awesome.

695
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 9: Hey, I got I got one thing though, we got you.

696
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 8: Remember I got in trouble saying some people were ja

697
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 8: geez right, So just guys, So I want to coin

698
00:32:59,520 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 8: a new.

699
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 9: A jab, just a beast.

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00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: There we go the Jab. Steve love it, Love his love, Steve,

701
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: Why my brother all the best? You think to join

702
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: the NFL Report, right?

703
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 10: Know?

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Speaker 1: Who also is a jab? Brian Baldinger Just a beast.

705
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: This guy's a beast to Jamier Gibbs, mainly because he's

706
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: running behind one of the best offensive lines in football.

707
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: You talk offensive lines with Brian Baldinger, it's Baldy's favorite films.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next on the NFL Report, Welcome back into

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Speaker 1: the NFL Report. It's my favorite segment each and every week.

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00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: It's Baldy's favorite films. Brian Baldinger joins us in Baldy,

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Speaker 1: I know, you love when we have offensive linemen on

712
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: the show and they're a regular here. Jeremy Tunzel, Now,

713
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: Joel Botonio, what'd you think of the All Pro left

714
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Speaker 1: guard Jason Kelsey as well? I forget Jason Kelsey. Nobody

715
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: forgets the Kelsey's these days, and we's talked about humans

716
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Speaker 1: on the planet. What do you think about Joel Botoniou

717
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: the All Pro from the Cleveland Browns and what's going

718
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Speaker 1: on in Cleveland, what they're gonna have to deal with upfronts.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, Steven James, you can never go wrong talk into

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Speaker 7: an offense line.

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Speaker 11: They always have the Global Report like they're just you know,

722
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Speaker 11: we're all just kind of meatheads, you know, like we

723
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Speaker 11: don't we can't talk about stats or you know, a

724
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Speaker 11: lot kind of stuff.

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Speaker 7: We just talk about like how you win football games,

726
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 7: like what it takes.

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Speaker 11: And you know, it's it's interesting because obviously the quarterback

728
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 11: is the story right now in Cleveland, and you guys

729
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 11: address that with Joel, But just think about it. They

730
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 11: lost the best running back in the league, you know,

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Speaker 11: the second week of the season. Like he's been the

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Speaker 11: best running back in the league for five straight years.

733
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Speaker 11: And you lose the very best that position, and yet

734
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Speaker 11: here they are still second in the league in rushing,

735
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Speaker 11: you know, and they're you talk about losing both starting

736
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 11: tackles last week, and you know, you go and there's

737
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Speaker 11: Jerome Ford running four hund yards against best defensive football

738
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 11: right Like you got to look at Potonio and post

739
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 11: it and whyatt tell her and how they go about

740
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 11: their business because Bill Callahan is just simply a genius

741
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Speaker 11: when it comes to building an offensive line, keeping a

742
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Speaker 11: cohesive teaching Jeron Christian, you know, the way we call

743
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 11: things and what we got to learn, and like it's it's.

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Speaker 7: Really a testament.

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Speaker 11: And that's why I believe Cleveland's alive because they've overcome

746
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 11: so much already this season.

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Speaker 3: Yep, BI, why Teyler actually had to play of the

748
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: game recovering a fumble late in the game when de

749
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: Shaan Watson got sacked.

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Speaker 2: That was huge. But let's continue the.

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Speaker 3: O line conversation because last week I watched the Detroit Lions.

752
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: What of your favorite teams, your baldies breakdown, just virtue

753
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: O show and the run and pass games.

754
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: Jared Goff doesn't get touched.

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Speaker 3: What about that group and what you saw against the

756
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Speaker 3: Chargers and why this maybe the toughest old line for

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Speaker 3: teams to counter the rest of the way.

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Speaker 11: Well, you know, when you look at you know Taylor

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00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 11: Decker right now and Jonah Jackson and Frank Ragnan all

760
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 11: the way to Penney Sewel. They can play any style

761
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 11: you want, Steve, if you want to be just play

762
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Speaker 11: smash mouth and run it on the goal line. They

763
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 11: can move you off the ball. You want to run,

764
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Speaker 11: stretch and get out on the perimeter like Sewel right

765
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Speaker 11: here along with you know the tight ends.

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Speaker 7: You could do that. If you want to play an.

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Speaker 11: Airmail game to let Jared gott throw it to a

768
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 11: fleet of receiver, they can play.

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00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 7: They really can play any style. Protect the quarterback who's

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Speaker 7: a pocket quarterback. The big runs from Jamier Gibbs and

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Speaker 7: David Montgomery last week.

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Speaker 11: You want to play a shootout style game and get

773
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Speaker 11: the ball in the final minute and take it down

774
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 11: to go kick the game winning field goal. Like I

775
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 11: think they're built for any style. That you have to play,

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Speaker 11: whether it's on the road at home against a contender

777
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 11: division rival like Chicago this week, Like that offensive line

778
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 11: can play any style right now, and there's not many

779
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 11: that have that versatility like Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna stick with the offensive line. Is that

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00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: your h that's your go to and that's what this

782
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: show's all about with Joe Buttonio on it. And now

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00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: we're sticking with it, and we'll stick with the team

784
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: that he's going to go against. The Pittsburgh Steelers. Right,

785
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and what they've done with Broderick Jones

786
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks at right tackle. I just

787
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Speaker 1: want to mention this really quickly. I was there at

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00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: camp a day after they had an intersquad scrimmage and

789
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: then Mike Tomlin has him in pads the next morning

790
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Speaker 1: and in the end zone they're running one on one

791
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: drills and it was just Mike t telling TJ. Watt to

792
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: go against Broderick. And then it was like Alex Highsmith,

793
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: now you go against Broderick and just working the rookie.

794
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: What have you seen the last couple of weeks out

795
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: of him? Now that he's grown well.

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Speaker 11: You know, they drafted him and he competed with Dan Connor,

797
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 11: you know, for the left tackle spot, and Connor played

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00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 11: really well. He worked really hard this season, and then

799
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 11: you know, they had an injury in right tackle. They

800
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 11: you know, they put in Broaderick the last two weeks

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00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 11: and honestly, it's the best they have run the ball

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00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 11: in years in Pittsburgh, these last two games against Tennessee

803
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 11: and against Green Bay and Broder Jones. You see the

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Speaker 11: athletic ability getting up to the second level right here

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00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 11: of this Dodge Harris ten yard touchdown run, like the

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00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 11: way that Jalen Warren is running the ball right here,

807
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 11: and Bradal Jones athletic ability, it just shows up, whether

808
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 11: he's pulling and leading, whether he's getting on a perimeture

809
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 11: on any kind of a toss play or just simply

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00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 11: combo blocking inside, you know, with the right guard, you

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00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 11: know Daniels, and then the the upgrade that Isaac Salmonlo

812
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 11: has been at left guard. Like they addressed the offensive

813
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 11: line in this offseason and now it's beginning to pay off.

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Speaker 11: And I think for the first time you can say

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Speaker 11: Fittsburgh as a running attack.

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Speaker 7: And I'd be surprised if they don't continue to run

817
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 7: the ball well.

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Speaker 3: And bald did you see a couple of these clips

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Speaker 3: here and this is hard for rookie the technique you're

820
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: seeing hand placement and things like that. That is just

821
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: exactly how coaches wanted. Another thing, we got to move

822
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: off the offensive line. Now that you wanted to talk

823
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: about Kyler Murray, he comes out.

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Speaker 2: I mean there were some points where he didn't.

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Speaker 3: You know, hey, I'm still getting a feel, but man,

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Speaker 3: Baldy throwing the ball, running the ball, the overall operation

827
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Speaker 3: of the offense, it was almost a clean sheet.

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Speaker 11: Well, Steve, you would expect, you know, honestly, with the

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Speaker 11: injury that he had, the turnover with general manager, coaches, offense,

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00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 11: all the stuff that has happened, that there would be

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Speaker 11: some level of rust on Kyler Murray, and it simply

832
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Speaker 11: didn't show up.

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Speaker 7: In fact, I would say that Kyler Murtley looked.

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Speaker 11: I mean he's i mean run at Reid option since

835
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 11: she is out Texas to stop him. But like his movement,

836
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 11: the accuracy, how he the confidence that he played with.

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00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 11: You can honestly say watching Kyler on Sunday that he's

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00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 11: he played as confidently as we've ever seen him play

839
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 11: like this play is ridiculous, but just a third and

840
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Speaker 11: ten play when they needed it most on the game

841
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 11: winning drive to get to a game winning field goal.

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Speaker 11: I thought he was outstanding, and it looks like him

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Speaker 11: and his you know, young tight end right now, I

844
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 11: have a special chemistry which I think is going to

845
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Speaker 11: I think we're going to continue to see that going forward.

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Speaker 7: This year.

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Speaker 1: I saw him play in high school, Baldy at Allen.

848
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: I went to a game. I saw him down there

849
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Speaker 1: in Texas. He was incredible. I watched him play down there.

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00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: It was it was out of this world. But I

851
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Speaker 1: want to go back to the offensive line stage. I'm

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00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: going to how they do it.

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Speaker 11: Plus, they built a stadium first, Yeah, there's any money

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Speaker 11: left over.

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00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 7: Then they build a school. They're starting to build a school. Yeah,

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00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 7: that's how.

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00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 2: They did in Georgia too.

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00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: It was unreal. The marching. The marching band was so big,

859
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: it didn't do any marching. Everybody just stood at their

860
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: spot on the entire field because nobody had any room

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Speaker 1: because that's how many people were in the band. I'm

862
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Speaker 1: going back to the offensive line, though, Baldy and you

863
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: weren't ready for this one. This one's off the grid.

864
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: But I was curious with with with Andy Reid and

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Speaker 1: Steve Spagnol having a week off to prepare for the

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Speaker 1: tush push, could this be the week on Monday Night

867
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Speaker 1: that we actually maybe see a team have a plan

868
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: for this play that has been virtually unstoppable.

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00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 11: I might put Chris Jones right on Jason Kelsey's nose

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Speaker 11: and just see if they can budge that piece and

871
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 11: get him pushed backwards.

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00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, like that might be something to look for.

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Speaker 11: I'm sure Chris is like, I don't really want to

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Speaker 11: get bashed by you know, a thousand pounds of beef

875
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Speaker 11: coming at me, But that might be the solution right there.

876
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Speaker 11: I'm sure Spags will have something, you know, I mean

877
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Speaker 11: they use it in the super Bowl. I'm sure they'll

878
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Speaker 11: have some sort I'm sure they've worked on something.

879
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Speaker 7: You just know what's bags and.

880
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Speaker 11: Just his creativity and all the chess pieces he has.

881
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Speaker 11: It won't surprise me to see you have something ready

882
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 11: because you know what's coming on Monday night.

883
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Speaker 2: Yep, Hey, Baldy, we have to go by Tyson here.

884
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Speaker 3: Everyone's got a plan until they get punched and the mouth.

885
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Speaker 3: There's all kinds of reality checks that happen right there. Hey, Baldie,

886
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Speaker 3: that was great stuff, absolutely gray stuff.

887
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Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

888
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Speaker 3: We will see you next Thursday on the NFL Report.

889
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Speaker 3: And when we come back, it's a Pep Talk former

890
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Speaker 3: NFL coach, a long time coordinator, Pep Hamilton, who's got

891
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Speaker 3: some thoughts on some offensive coordinator action that happened in

892
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Speaker 3: the NFL this week.

893
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Speaker 2: That's next on the NFL roopot. We're back at the

894
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Speaker 2: NFL Report, James.

895
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Speaker 3: Now we are joined by longtime coach and former offensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator Pep Hamilton. First off, hopefully a Howard Bison knockoff

897
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Speaker 3: Morgan State and we get to that celebration Bowl.

898
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Speaker 2: But let's go, let's go, but let's get right into.

899
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Speaker 3: Some NFL talk because the offensive coordinator position has seen

900
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Speaker 3: some change this week.

901
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Speaker 2: And I want to start in Buffalo.

902
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really want to start a Buffalo because it's

903
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Speaker 3: weird they lose a game because you got twelve men

904
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Speaker 3: on the field, you have all this other stuff going on.

905
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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott, lets go of offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey and

906
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Speaker 3: just you.

907
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Speaker 2: Know about the situation. Their offense has actually been functioning.

908
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Speaker 3: Very well, So what about that whole dynamic of what

909
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Speaker 3: we just saw up in Buffalo.

910
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Speaker 2: Maybe not even using.

911
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Speaker 3: Them as your example, but that is kind of the

912
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Speaker 3: jumping off point here.

913
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Unfortunately, I've been a part of a mid season

914
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Speaker 10: fire and once upon a time, and I think more

915
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Speaker 10: than anything, it just what resonates the most for me

916
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Speaker 10: is the fact that it had they won the game,

917
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Speaker 10: what this have happened?

918
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Speaker 12: Right? You know, just what have happened?

919
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Speaker 5: Right?

920
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Speaker 10: And I think at the end of the day, when

921
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Speaker 10: you look at just where this football team is, I'm

922
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Speaker 10: talking about the Buffalo Bills where they are right now.

923
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Speaker 10: They're in a situation where they're relying solely on their

924
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Speaker 10: quarterback to make all the plays.

925
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Speaker 12: That are necessary for them for them to win games.

926
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Speaker 10: And it may be ambitious of them to think that

927
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Speaker 10: way and to think that he's capable of doing just that.

928
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Speaker 10: I know he's paid a kings ransom, But at some

929
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Speaker 10: point in time, you know, you got to really rely

930
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Speaker 10: on all three phases of your football team to give

931
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Speaker 10: you a chance to beat other good football teams. And

932
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Speaker 10: right now they seem to be a bit more reliant

933
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Speaker 10: on the quarterback position, which most teams are. I understand

934
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Speaker 10: that the quarterback's most important position on the team. But

935
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Speaker 10: this team in particular, it wasn't the quarterbacks play solely

936
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Speaker 10: that cost them an opportunity to win a game on

937
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Speaker 10: Sunday or was it Monday night?

938
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Speaker 3: Real quick, though, Pet, then are you saying that this

939
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: is the move might have been good because Ken Dorrish

940
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Speaker 3: in this offense is relying too much on Josh Allen.

941
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Speaker 12: No, I'm not saying that. I'm actually saying just the opposite.

942
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Speaker 10: I do think that when you look at how Josh statistically,

943
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Speaker 10: you know, statistically he is, he's probably as good as

944
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Speaker 10: he's been here in the last four or five years.

945
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Speaker 10: I mean, eliminate the turnovers, of course, But I think

946
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Speaker 10: there's some other factors that we don't know about that

947
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Speaker 10: may have contributed to the decision to move on from

948
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Speaker 10: Ken Dorsey. I think one in particular is the fact

949
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Speaker 10: that Joe Joe Brady's name showed up on that list

950
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Speaker 10: of candidates that could potentially be the next offensive coordinator

951
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Speaker 10: at Penn State. And there may be, you know, just

952
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 10: some conversation about, well, if we don't feel like we're

953
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Speaker 10: headed in the right direction, we have a guy that's

954
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Speaker 10: been a play caller in the league on the coaches

955
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 10: just now that we may want to give a shot

956
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Speaker 10: to and they was just waiting on the opportunity to

957
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 10: do that. You know, but it doesn't make sense in

958
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 10: my opinion. And that's just my opinion. But none of

959
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 10: us knows the inner workings of what's going on in

960
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 10: the building and the true dynamics amongst the staff.

961
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Speaker 1: Let's go to another offensive corner that wasn't relieved of

962
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Speaker 1: his job, but relieved of his play calling duties in

963
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Speaker 1: Thomas Brown with the Carolina Panthers. It was Frank Reich,

964
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Speaker 1: Now it's Thomas Brown. Now it's back to Frank. Snip snap,

965
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: snip snap. We're back and forth. What does this do

966
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Speaker 1: for an offensive coordinator that had an opportunity PAP to

967
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Speaker 1: be a play caller and then it's taken away. What,

968
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is it like to be in the

969
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: building after that's been given to you and then taken away.

970
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Speaker 12: You know, I think it's unfortunate.

971
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Speaker 10: It's unfortunate for not only Thomas Brown, but it's also

972
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Speaker 10: unfortunate for Bryce Young because at the end of the day,

973
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Speaker 10: right now, I think the pressure, there's more pressure, external

974
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 10: pressure on the coaching staff and the Carolina Panthers franchise

975
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Speaker 10: solely because of the development and the play of c J.

976
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Speaker 12: Stroud. We shouldn't have anything to do with the.

977
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Speaker 10: Current state of Bryce Young and that Carolina Panthers franchise.

978
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Speaker 10: And so everybody expects Brice to come play at the

979
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Speaker 10: same level that CJ's playing at the moment. But at

980
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 10: the end of the day, we you know, we understand

981
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 10: that is so more so about the playing quarterback back

982
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 10: than it is just to play at a quarterback. And right,

983
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 10: it's ambitious to think that the Carolina are in a

984
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Speaker 10: position just as them to be able to go out

985
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Speaker 10: and from week to week fos of offense.

986
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Speaker 2: So pat, how do they move on from here?

987
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: Because again, now Thomas Brown is kind of like, Okay,

988
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 3: you took the play calling away from me.

989
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: Our team is not good overall to me. I want

990
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 2: to ask you, does this put everything on Frank right now?

991
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: Okay, You're not the guy. I'm the one it's all

992
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: on now? Is it all on him, you know, succeed

993
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 3: or fail?

994
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 10: Well, we really don't know where the initial ultimatum came

995
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 10: from for you know, Frank to give the play calling

996
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 10: duties to his offensive coordinator. You know, if it was

997
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 10: a decision that was made by ownership, you know, Frank

998
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 10: may have been really hoping to have the opportunity to

999
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 10: get back in that role to maybe a tone for

1000
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 10: some of the things that that happened early in the

1001
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 10: season where they wasn't successful. But I do think that

1002
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 10: just the consistency of having a voice and understanding of

1003
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 10: what to expect. I'm talking from Bryce Young standpoint, is

1004
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 10: what's most important. The plan for the quarterback is just

1005
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 10: as important as a quarterback skill set.

1006
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Speaker 3: But we really appreciate some of the insight there. And

1007
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: let's not forget one thing about this whole decision with

1008
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: Thomas Brown. This is not the first time Frank Reich

1009
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Speaker 3: has done this. He fired his offensive coordinator Marcus Brady

1010
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: in Indianapolis just before he got fired, So again, Frank

1011
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 3: Reich has done something like this before.

1012
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: Again, Pep, thank you so much for your times.

1013
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: But I also want to let you know next Thursday

1014
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: is Thanksgiving JP and here at the NFL Network is

1015
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: a John Madden Thanksgiving celebration on NFL Network. We've got

1016
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 3: you covered all Thanksgiving at starting with Good Morning Football

1017
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: at ten am Eastern. You can check out NFL Game

1018
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: Day morning and we'll get you caught up throughout the

1019
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: day and the evening with all the highighlights and analysis

1020
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Speaker 3: only on NFL Network.

1021
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: R JP.

1022
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: Another great edition, a week ten edition of the NFL Report.

1023
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: You get the last word to take us home?

1024
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I get the last word. I'll tell you right now.

1025
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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna try a turn dunkin now that

1026
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: I watch that, I think I'm gonna fire that up

1027
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 1: on the old grill here at the Palmer household. Because

1028
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: we're hosting about twenty twenty five people for Thanksgiving this year.

1029
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a monster at the Palmer House.

1030
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: So we've been watching NFL Network all day long.

1031
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 12: Skin.

1032
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: You can listen to a policy this has been oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1033
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: Listen to the podcast too. Go for a walk, take

1034
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: a dog for a walk or something like that, you know,

1035
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: walk off a little of that trip to fan or

1036
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you get in the turkey, and

1037
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: just you know, cut the NFL Report Take it easy

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Speaker 1: statement