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Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends.

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Speaker 1: You've filthy horse, your husband's gone, and we've got books

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Speaker 1: it's gossip. I'm sure it's memoir. It's Martini's.

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Speaker 2: Celebrity Poof Club.

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Speaker 1: I read it while it's hot.

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Speaker 2: Celebrity poof Club.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No

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Speaker 1: celebrity pook club.

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Speaker 2: Buzz me in. I brought the queer foe hey, best friend.

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year to all my new club kids and old.

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Speaker 2: Even though technically we probably I'm sure like last week

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Speaker 1: Yes, I've for three weeks now and it's only February. However,

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Speaker 1: we don't judge you if you haven't taken down your

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Speaker 1: Is actually a really interesting question. What do you think

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Speaker 1: is the latest possible time to take down a Christmas tree?

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: My tree is not down right now, neither is mine.

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Speaker 2: Cool, and it's like getting the stage where it's like,

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Speaker 2: I know it's gonna happen this week.

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Speaker 1: Is that because you're gonna feel weird if it's up

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Speaker 2: It's because it's getting to like a little bit droop

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Speaker 2: I walked by yesterday and I said, damn, girl, you

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Speaker 2: still got it. My mother went on a date with

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Speaker 2: an old Greek man once and he had his Christmas

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Speaker 1: Route well, as the Gretchen Wilson song goes, I keep

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Speaker 1: my Christmas lights on the front porch all year long,

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Speaker 1: So there's kind of like a that's when you have

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Speaker 1: a fake tree pried in that. Yeah, I mean obviously

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Speaker 1: I just some of those heavier ornaments might start falling

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Speaker 2: And then it's for young children and pats and cats

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Speaker 2: it's so droopy that that is just like really sad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I'll get to it. Sad. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 2: I'm fully with you. I think maybe take the trade

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Speaker 2: we shouldn't have lights up all winter because people can

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Speaker 2: and people enjoy the lights, yes so much. Keep lights up.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean the concept of like a light in

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Speaker 2: And the snow happens more in your January and your February,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, how beautiful to step out and see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I am in your camp of

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Speaker 2: And I guess also I'm supposed to get some sort

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Speaker 2: It's a really big bag. Oh, the bag is so

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Speaker 2: I received it from a heterosexual elder in my neighborhood

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Speaker 2: who was clearing out their freezer. Also knows my girlfriend's

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Speaker 1: What beef? Enderson? Was she hearing you?

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Speaker 2: It was straight up your classic moo moo beef.

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Speaker 1: Well, you guys, as we are saying goodbye to Christmas

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Speaker 1: saying goodbye and hello and then goodbye again to one

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Speaker 2: Will, and someone of legacy, Yes, someone who went too.

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Speaker 1: Fast, someone who embodies old Hollywood, younger Hollywood, medium Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you said it perfectly. I would say she's one

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Speaker 1: And how could you not be when you have her lore?

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Speaker 2: only Carrie Fisher and her book Wishful Drinking.

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Speaker 1: Which is also a one woman show.

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Speaker 1: And she performed this show around the country for sometime.

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Speaker 2: That's like an insane route to be like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, okay, I mean just the

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Speaker 2: Well, right, basically kind of chauffeuring a date. In a way,

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Speaker 2: want to go see a screen named Cleopatra at the

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Speaker 2: Wang Theater. Oh anyway, Wang girls, shout out to my

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Speaker 1: That's definitely the most beautiful theater of Monstone. Not heavy competition, but.

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Speaker 2: And of course Cleopatra comes up so much in this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, the tangled web of adult tree and

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Speaker 2: Eddie Fisher crooner.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen fifties, krooner, not someone that I think is such

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Speaker 1: And it's about Debbie Reynolds and Cary Fisher, like living

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Speaker 1: Always there, and there's always got the tongue out, and

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Speaker 2: Or just like my favorite movie Mother, which I watched

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Speaker 1: Darren Aronofsky Jennifer Lawrence film.

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Speaker 2: No, Mother's about Debbie Reynolds and Albert Brooks, and it's

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Speaker 2: about a guy in his forties who gets divorced and

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Speaker 2: moves back in with his mother. Oh, and she's being

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Speaker 2: seventies like stuff and blasting music, and she's being fabulous,

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, it's kind of be like that with you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, you're kind of the on teammate now.

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Speaker 2: And she's driving and being like one of these dolls.

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Speaker 1: So Debbie Reynold's singing in the rain, Mama, Okay, she's

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Speaker 2: Snatched and she really was more girl next to and

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Speaker 1: pumping everyone full of math.

442
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

443
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 1: And then he was like Frank Sinatra bing Crosby. They

444
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 1: were all just pumped full.

445
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: Of speed, darling. And she's like, oh yeah, no, no, no,

446
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 2: my father. Then you know, he was like, oh, it's vitamins,

447
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 2: which is also so fifties. Ready for your vitamins, sir,

448
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: and a Coca cola.

449
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: And they like didn't tell him. Oh God. This scene

450
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: the documentary where she's.

451
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 2: With her dad, oh okay, we have to talk about that.

452
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 2: So she fits her dad. He's like ninety five, He's

453
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: had a thousand marriages. He's like the straightest man ever

454
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: because he's just like fock so many women. He's so horny.

455
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: And that's like his whole memoir, which we have to do.

456
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 2: But his Elton John Palm Springs ass at the end

457
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: of his life is so fab his lips plumped, he

458
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: can hardly speak. He's wearing purple tinted glasses. His entire

459
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: house is leopard He's in leopard, and then this is

460
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't relate to this as just I guess,

461
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: like not being straight. But she's very like, daddy, I

462
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: had to compete with all your other girls to be

463
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 2: your best girl, she says to her dad.

464
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean he's barely like able to speak at

465
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: that point, and.

466
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: She's kind of speaking her truth of like last daughter's words.

467
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know she's ready for camera. I mean

468
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Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, we all crave aproval of

469
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: the parent, and he bounced for another movie star who, frankly,

470
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: like Debbie Reynolds and Elizabeth Taylor, honestly kind of look alike,

471
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: like they have a similar vibe of like the fifties.

472
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Speaker 1: I disagree. I just think it's that thing where it's like.

473
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Speaker 2: You're seeing someone from the past and you guys are like.

474
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: They do look pretty alike, like if the people in

475
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: the past were like, oh my god, Elizabeth Taylor is

476
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: an insane, dark, exotic Egyptian brunette, and like Debbie Reynolds

477
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: is the whitest, most all American pinched nose, and you're

478
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't know, they look kind of

479
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: similar to me, but like, you know, it is obviously

480
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: very sad to see your dad leave your mom. But

481
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: I think the reality is he was never around that

482
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: much and he wasn't a great dad. And of course,

483
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's similar to share.

484
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, Debbie Darling wasn't even around them much.

485
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: It's like the daughter is always gonna be daddy's little

486
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: girl and love her dad and want her dad to

487
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: love her back, even if he's like a shitty dad

488
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: and never showing.

489
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: Up, and you always want daddy's approval. Yeah, but it

490
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 2: is this thing that's like you're in competition with the wife.

491
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know if she really felt like she

492
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: was so in competition with Elizabeth Taylor.

493
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: I think it's for attention, though it's not even Elizabeth Taylor.

494
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: It's all the women. Yeah, okay, I want to quiz

495
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: you a little bit on the family connections here.

496
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: Okay, suck it to me.

497
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So, who did Eddie Fisher mary after Elizabeth Taylor

498
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: rejected him? Oh, who's the mother.

499
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: Of actress of actress Jolie Fisher was in Ellen Ellen? Yeah? Yeah?

500
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, I fully don't know.

501
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 2: Connie Stevens.

502
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: Okay, it was like also like.

503
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: No, it's like also like a girl of the day

504
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: who sang songs. I was listening to Eddie Fisher and

505
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: it is just like he was much more like sealss Sinatra.

506
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was just pumping him out.

507
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: He was pumping out the kids.

508
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: And he had a contract with Coca Cola, and she

509
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: was like, and he.

510
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 2: Had five cents every bottle of the Palisades Bottling Company,

511
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: so he was set for life.

512
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: It's funny the way that like, you know, the old

513
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: studios and the old companies, they almost were acting like

514
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: old monarchies of the past, and the way that they

515
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: were patronizing the arts. It was just like they supported

516
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: an artist from like cradle to like their retirement. They

517
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: were really just like we are building up her artists.

518
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 2: They're like, you're a tide gal. You're a tide gal,

519
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: and you're a cokeman.

520
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: You're cokeman. You're a cokeman for life.

521
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 2: And she's a wonderbred child.

522
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: Yep.

523
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: So Debbie Reynolds was in one of my favorite Sinatra films,

524
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: The Tender Trap, which is just kind of a classic

525
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 2: fifties rom com and Debbie never got with Sinatra, and

526
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: what I love about Debbie Reynolds and like relate to

527
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: her so much, which I think is also why like

528
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: Carrie Fisher is kind of like so funny, is like

529
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: they are both stars, but at the end of the day,

530
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: they're also kind of just like fans of Hollywood and

531
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: Debbie Reynolds, which I didn't know. She had the biggest

532
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: collection of Hollywood memorabilia ever, like literally b red.

533
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: Slip slippers, Marilyn Monroe's subway dress.

534
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: Literally the subway try the.

535
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: Most iconic things and this broke my heart.

536
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, she went into debt getting them, and she like

537
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: tried like ten times to have a museum and the

538
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 2: Academy rejected her. And then of course she died one

539
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: day after Carrie Fisher in twenty sixteen, and then the

540
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: Academy Museum opens up in twenty twenty one, which she

541
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: went to, which I went to, which was wonderful, But

542
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: now I'm like mad at them, but they did honor her.

543
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: There is I guess, like they have a PLOQ that's

544
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: like the Debbie Reynolds, like she's our honorary like costume

545
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: conservatoire next to like the Shirley Temple Education Center, the

546
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: Academy museum was beautiful and stunning, and like, it's really

547
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: cool to see all those costumes.

548
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: Okay, are you going to quit something else that I

549
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: can actually go?

550
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 2: Okay, who did Carrie's daughter Billy Lord date?

551
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: Oh wait? He was like the son of someone. Yes,

552
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: that's as far as I remember, like Elizabeth Taylor's.

553
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: He's Elizabeth Taylor's like great grandson.

554
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so they're not related. But it's weird because in.

555
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: The book she's just like, are they related? Is the incest?

556
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

557
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: What's going on here? Okay? One more? Who is the

558
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: name of Debbie Reynolds And what did he do? Second

559
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: husband after?

560
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: Okay, he was a shoe tycoon and as Carrie Fischer says,

561
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: two words that should never go together, and he was

562
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: this like rich shoe tycoon and he was boring. I

563
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: love the part where she was just like he would

564
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: walk around the house farting, which provided endless amusement for

565
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: me and my brother Todd.

566
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: I also love it's very old fashioned way where she

567
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: was like he was an ugly man, but he was

568
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: distinguished and he was always and monogrammed everything, and I

569
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: didn't find him ugly. I was kind of like I

570
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: don't know.

571
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: This guy's kind of like bub Well. I like when

572
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: she says my stepfather was distinguished looking. That's ugly with money.

573
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So if we get into Carrie's like twenties, let's.

574
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: Talk about Star Wars. Let's talk about it. So she

575
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: made Star Wars when she was nineteen, which I did

576
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: not know she was that young. That's crazy young.

577
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: It is young. It's crazy these stars.

578
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: And she seems so like already worldly, which I guess

579
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: is because she's everyonellld's daughter. But like in that movie,

580
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: she doesn't seem to me like a naive young star list.

581
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: I was getting gifted a vibrator at age thirteen by

582
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: Debbie Reynolds, and Debbie Reynolds was being like, let's smoke pot,

583
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: here's a vibrator. You're at the parties, please.

584
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: Went she was my mother's closet was a magical place

585
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: where she entered his mom and emerges Heavie Reynolds. And

586
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: she thought, maybe one day I'll get enormous breasts as

587
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I watched my mom lift up her huge fun bags

588
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: to wash underneath farm.

589
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: Because I don't think of like Debbie reynlds as so

590
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: like big.

591
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: Tittied, but she's like all the waste like big tall.

592
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: It's like they're big enough, like they're proportionately big.

593
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: They are, and speaking of tall, Okay, this is just

594
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: so seventies as a star Wars head, did you know

595
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: the whole thing about how Princess Leah like doesn't wear

596
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,239
Speaker 2: a bra?

597
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: I did it. Obviously it makes sense because like so

598
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: there's this whole scene where she comes in and she's like,

599
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: I want to wear.

600
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: A bra, and then Lucas is like, it doesn't make

601
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: sense because in another.

602
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: Galax scene in space, they don't have bras, and she's

603
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: just like, oh, excuse me, You've done the research. So

604
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: they do all this other stuff in space, but they

605
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: don't wear bras, Like.

606
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: That's the one thing you're holding on too.

607
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: I do think that it would be distracting to see

608
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: just like such a wonderbra like through the dress, Like

609
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: it would feel too of frankly of des eve.

610
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: Okay, but think about Barbarella and she's like in a

611
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: bullet bra basically, but that's like the top is the bra. Okay,

612
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: George Lucas.

613
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm seeing seeing a bra underneath the like toga

614
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: dress would feel too anachronistic because the toga is like

615
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: an ancient Greek reference.

616
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: Totally. Oh and let me guess, would you want Harrison

617
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: Ford and No One to wear?

618
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Oh? I'd be very happy if Harrison was very known

619
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Speaker 1: that it.

620
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: Seemed like he had some brief song in that film.

621
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Did it? But you weren't seeing visible panty lines.

622
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm saying there are other bras. I think there's a

623
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: difference between wearing like a on like Macy's Bally underwear.

624
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: Bra well, but she ended up wearing like tape Like yeah,

625
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: they would just supporting. It wasn't like the fun bags

626
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: were so loosen.

627
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: And then in the documentary, like she's like out a

628
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: con and she's signing this woman dressed as Princess Leah's

629
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: like autograph and she's like, I like your costume next time,

630
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: don't wear a bra.

631
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So very similar to Miria Martin Leiz. I feel

632
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: like she has this thing where she's just like, yep,

633
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: Star Wars ruined my life, Thank you, George Lucas, But

634
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: unlike Miriam where it's like her book where she's like

635
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: thank you JK rallying, you made me a gazillionaire and

636
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: now like seven year olds come up to me forever

637
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: for the fact that I was in thirty seconds of

638
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: a movie and it's the only thing anyone will ever

639
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: remember about me. Like Carrie Fishers a little bit more

640
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: like a she's talking about stars a lot, B Like

641
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: she obviously does enjoy it and think it's fun, but

642
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: like she is acknowledging that it's like it is a curse.

643
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: It really is. I thought of Miria Murgles so much,

644
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: but I was like, it's different because I think Princess

645
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: Leah is more of an icon than.

646
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: Like Professor Sprout chessor Sprout. I mean, she's also a

647
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: very big part of the movie, like yeah, and so

648
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: it's like and she's also you know, she's a feminist.

649
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean she is, like, yes, she's a princess who

650
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: inherited her title, but she's.

651
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: As strong as this kind of shaking nerd at the concept.

652
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: She's a strong woman who speaks her mind.

653
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: I mean, and we love our worrior queens throughout history,

654
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: from Mary, Queen of Scots to Princess Leah's Charlie's Angels.

655
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: I also think because it's like JK. Rowling is such

656
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: a like terf Miriam Murgerley's is gonna be a little

657
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: more like fuck JK Rowling.

658
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: She doesn't really even say fuck JAK though she's not

659
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: gonna get into it because she thinks Harry Potter's embarrassing. Yeah,

660
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 1: she thinks as gringe what she is, although she did

661
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: in that recent interview say that really funny thing where

662
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: she was like, I can't believe people have Harry Potter weddings.

663
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: It's so nnoying.

664
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: And she has gone off on JK a little bit.

665
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: But Carrie for a long time, I think like was like,

666
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go to these cons and then

667
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: gave in.

668
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Well, she was like needed the money after Debbie Reynolds

669
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: had to like auction off the rest as the fucking

670
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: Maryland dress. So an interesting thing I learned about the

671
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: movie Little Insider Trivia Vera that she keeps talking about

672
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: in this book is this like acting training that she

673
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: had about articulation where she had to say this like

674
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: very long, wait, do you have the line about the

675
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: proper cup of coffee pot? It's probably a little earlier.

676
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: She learned this very kind of like actors like tongue

677
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: twister to help you enunciate, and it helped her say

678
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: all of like the most intense Star Wars lines. Okay,

679
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: all I want is a proper cup of coffee made

680
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: in a proper copper coffee pot. You can believe it

681
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: or not, but I want a cup of coffe from

682
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: a proper copper pot. Tin coffee pots or iron coffee pots.

683
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: They're not good to me. If I can't have a

684
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: proper cup of coffee from a proper copper coffee pot,

685
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: I'll just have tea. All I want is a proper

686
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: cup of coffee made it a proper copper coffee pot.

687
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: Okay, but you try it, okay, m All I want

688
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: is a proper cup of coffee made in a proper

689
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: copper coffee pot. You can believe it or not, but

690
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: I want a cup of coffee from a proper copper pot.

691
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: Tin coffee pots or iron coffee pots, they're not good

692
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: to me. If I can't have a proper cup of

693
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: coffee from a proper copper coffee pot, I'll just have tea.

694
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: All I want is a proper cup of coffee made

695
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: in a proper coffee pot. You can believe it or not,

696
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: but I want a cup of coffee from a proper

697
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: copper pot tore it up.

698
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: So she says, like some of the lines in Star

699
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: Wars that you don't even think about, actually what tongue

700
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: tisters there they are. But when she he's like, you

701
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: think that bucket of both will get past the blockade,

702
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: like when she's talking about the Mllniam Falcon not being

703
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: able to get out of tattoo ween or no, they're

704
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: already at a tattooed network, but like it is very

705
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: tumb twister, and she like nails those iconic lines.

706
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: Pardon me, George, Could this be the deanga Poo poo.

707
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Of the Dianaga?

708
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I've only seen one. Another thing she did

709
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: to train, which I was obsessed with, is she goes

710
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: to this like midtown shooting range that was ezy and

711
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: former cops, which I was like, that's actually so modern.

712
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: Wait I was thinking about this. I was like, wait,

713
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: we do. And she like becomes friends with this ex

714
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: cop who like is teaching her crazy not to.

715
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 2: Be so like tried like girls were real chemo ons

716
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: and go toe. But I was like, it's crazy that

717
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: we haven't I've shot a gun once in New Hampshire

718
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: or why would did like disc shooting.

719
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: Twenty two rifle. Yeah, I shot twenty two as a

720
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: camp but I also shot a s once with the

721
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: boy Scouts, which was crazy.

722
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 2: Darb beeps that not today, but I okay.

723
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: First of all, I was shocked that the blasters in

724
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Star Wars were shooting blanks. I'm just like, it's a

725
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: gun with like the special effects. Is that shooting lasers?

726
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: I can't believe they actually had them shoot blanks.

727
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 2: Paging fucking Alex Baldwin.

728
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: But that's so real, and that's what makes Star Wars amazing. Yes,

729
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: I will nerd out on NSA. It's like Star Wars

730
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: shot with miniature. It's like, that's why it all looks

731
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: so good because it was real. The reason it looks

732
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: good when Lea's shooting is because she's actually shooting blanks.

733
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: Out have a fucking gun.

734
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 2: No, that was why I was shook after years of resisting,

735
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 2: and then I watched it and I was like, oh,

736
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: this is beautiful, and I actually want to go to

737
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: the Star Wars bar recreation.

738
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: Of like the Mosley Canteen.

739
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like this is iconic. Another hilarious

740
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: line in here. So after she goes to the shooting range.

741
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: She's like, what if we had a day where Chewbacca

742
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: got a had a spa day and we all went

743
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: shopping with Archie D two.

744
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: She was like, what about the shopping on Tattooin? I

745
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: would wait die.

746
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: I used to have this fantasy that in some distant

747
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: Star Wars sequel, we'd finally stop all the shooting and

748
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: screaming at each other. We go to a shopping and

749
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 2: beauty planet where the Stormtroopers would have to get facials

750
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: and Shobac would have to get petticures and bikini and

751
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: eyebrow axes. I felt at some point that I should

752
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: get Okay, fine, maybe not equal time, but just a

753
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: few scenes where we all did a lot of girly things.

754
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: Imagine the shopping we might have done on Tattoon or

755
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: a little Death Star souvenir shop where you could get

756
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: T shirts that said my parents got the Force and

757
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: jumped to light speed and all I got was this

758
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: slousy T shirt, or my boyfriend blue Job of the Hut,

759
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 2: and all I got, et cetera, et cetera.

760
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: You get my drift, my boyfriend blue Job of the Hut.

761
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: I read that I screamed aloud, we need to make

762
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: my boyfriend of the Hut me in twenty twenty five

763
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: making the fan Star Wars merch. Don't mind if I do.

764
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: Are there insane Star Wars trivianum that came up in

765
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: this book that Jodie Foster was up for Lea?

766
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: That was crazy?

767
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Can you imagine?

768
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: Yes?

769
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: I guess I can?

770
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: And be it total? I think our entire world history

771
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: would be changed.

772
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: Literally because like maybe she wouldn't have then made Taxi

773
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: Driver or was texted her before.

774
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: Tys Driver was before, and Carrie talks about using I

775
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: think one of the shooting trainers from Taxi Driver.

776
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: Oh interesting?

777
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: Would she end up with Alexandra Hettison?

778
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can you imagine if she wasn't with Alexandra Hettison?

779
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: The lesbian world would never be the same. The L

780
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: word would have never happened? Right?

781
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: Would the planet exist? Because this book is very the

782
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: chart by starting out with this nineteen fifties try.

783
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: But I think what I love about Kray Fisher, So

784
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: she talks in this book how she's like when they

785
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: first like suggest the Leyah buns to her, the hairstyle,

786
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: She's ugh, She's just like so I did weigh one

787
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: o five, but I carried fifty of those pounds in

788
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: my face, so they gave me a hairstyle that made

789
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: my face even wider. But I kind of think that,

790
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: like her face is so perfect because she is like

791
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: kind of girl next door in this way where she's

792
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: intimidated by a little bit Taylor, but like it has

793
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: this like it does have a little bit of a

794
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: knowingness to it. She's got like deep smart eyes. But

795
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: she also has a softness to the face that Jodie

796
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: Foster does not have. Jodie Foster is too much of

797
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: an ingreenou.

798
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jodi Foster has the like, shit, I'm just a

799
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: little girl who's a model in Oh my god, now

800
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm doing haro random shit.

801
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like too intimidating. Carrie Fisher is still like

802
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: approachable in this way. I think the part that's like

803
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: regal about her is the fact that she actually is

804
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: Hollywood royalty and she has all this world weariness in

805
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: her eyes well.

806
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: And the weariness comes across when she's like singing with

807
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: her mom in this old footage again in this amazing

808
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: bright light stock and she's singing with her mom and

809
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: her voice is like so soulful and low and like

810
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: her voices in the sane and amazing, and I would

811
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: feel the same if I was Debbie Reynolds. Debbie Reynolds

812
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: was like, my greatest sorrow is you didn't become a

813
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: nightclub act.

814
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Period, see, but you know, obviously she went on

815
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: to do very important things. But if my daughter had

816
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: like a sultry low voice, I would also be like.

817
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: Girl, girl, you need to get out there.

818
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: And it's so cute and she still has it when

819
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: they're like after Debbie Reynolds gets that like Lifetime Achievement award, right, and.

820
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: She's like shaking and up to the screeners and she's like,

821
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: where are we going? Yeah, And Carrie Fisher sings with

822
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: her and she still has this beautiful voice. And Debbie Reynolds,

823
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: I mean, she's gigging in Connecticut.

824
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: Till like literally at Mohegan Sun.

825
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: Till her last moment, and like the entire audience is

826
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: also one hundred and two years old, and she's not

827
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: a scooter and Debbie Reynolds, it is not a scooter.

828
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: And they're being like, don't.

829
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: Diire, it's so great gardens, Like the movie is crazy,

830
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: We'll stop talking about it, But you guys just need

831
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: to go watch and.

832
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: We'll get into like their dueling houses.

833
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: I love when she goes on her honeymoon in Jerusalem

834
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: with her gay husband and runs into her rabbi. X

835
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: oh no, it's Paul Simon. So she marries Paul Simon

836
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: before she marries the gay guy, and she and Paul

837
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Simon go on their honeymoon in Jerusalem, and then Paul

838
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: Simon and her getting a fight about Palestine, and she's

839
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: just like, if you ever have the chance to watch

840
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: your current husband and your ex guy who she lost

841
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: her virginity to, by the way, and she's like, so

842
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: then he became a rabbi and moved to Jerusalem and

843
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: had five kids and had ten kids. Just like, wow,

844
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: I always think that could have been me.

845
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: Nothing when I read that, because this is like announced

846
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: after her second husband is gay. Nothing is more fagag

847
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: than the guy you lose your virtunity to to become

848
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: an Orthodox rabbi and then the guy you have a

849
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: kid with turns out to be gay.

850
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm saying Olympic level.

851
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: And then gay dying in your bed? What girl's bed

852
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: do you want to die in?

853
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, stop stop campaigning, Lily. It's not going

854
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: to be you.

855
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: I'm like buying new sheets. I'm like Stephen, I just

856
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: got parachutes. Want to come and test them?

857
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: I know. I mean it needs to be like satin

858
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: like silk sheets. It needs to be like because her

859
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: bed is so gay man and it is so like

860
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: it's so.

861
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: Like fan fan and pink and like, yeah, she has

862
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: this room. It's meant to be laiden for twelve to

863
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: eighteen hours a day, so you know it's gonna be comfortable.

864
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah she no. I mean her style is very AIDS adjacent.

865
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: We can get into that in segments. Yeah, I want

866
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: to say so. I love how she ends the book.

867
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: So she literally recites the help me Obi wan Kenobi,

868
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: You're my only hope speech, and she like gives you

869
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And this is what I love at

870
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: her being like, I know you got it, you know

871
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: from Star Wars. I'm gonna give you Star Wars. And

872
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: then she goes still to this day, I can't forget

873
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: that fucking hologram speech. And that's why I did dope.

874
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: It's kind of cool that she's like a lifelong and

875
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: drug addict in this way. That's like, yeah, I do

876
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: do drugs. Yeah whatever, what are you gonna.

877
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: Do about it? Yeah?

878
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 2: Well, she is also very allaed to be like she says,

879
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: saying you're in alcoholics anonymous is also like saying you

880
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: live in Los Angeles and you're from California.

881
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Nicky Glazer, I just want to.

882
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: Read before we get a segment. It's this one line

883
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: by Debbie Reynolds after Carrie Fisher gets left by her

884
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: gay husband. You know, dear, we've had every sort of

885
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: man in our family. We've had horse thieves and alcoholics

886
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: and one man bands, but this is our first homosexual

887
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: just being like you did it, because Debbie reynolds whole

888
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: joke is that just like every husband first stole her money,

889
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: and she was like, you brought something new to the family.

890
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: You got left by a gay guy.

891
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Okay guy, And.

892
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: That's why we're just two women living side by side,

893
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: and our perspective.

894
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: Insane house is sane. Debbie dies day after the day after,

895
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: Like that is such a beautiful cosmic connection that they have,

896
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: even though it's so sad.

897
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: I think it shows like pets, people hang on, yes,

898
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: And I think she was hanging on to do one

899
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: more casino that Carrie could come and do with her.

900
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: It's so sad. She was so funny and she left

901
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: us way too young, and like she loved her daughter,

902
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: who I found out major in art and business as religion.

903
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: Let's just say that phrase once again. She went to Gallatin,

904
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: my alma mater MU.

905
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: And major art and business as religion.

906
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: So let's let that all the way space for her concentration,

907
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: as we call it, the community.

908
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: You're entering Gallatin this maybe you're joining winter semester. I

909
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: want to change majors? Take that.

910
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: What does she eat?

911
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: How does she okay? How does she live? She has

912
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: a room in her house that she calls the Ugly

913
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: Painting Room. That's like all these kind of like.

914
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: We've seen the docs, so this isn't really conjecture. This

915
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: is just describing the documentary. So it's like a ranch

916
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: to the house, but it has like all these like

917
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: vaulted ceilings in this kind of like medieval way, and

918
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: then there's the beams like it is a fab house.

919
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: And again it was Betty Davis's house, Darling.

920
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: And it's super cooky, funky. There are like road signs

921
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: really I saw that. I turned to Monkey's pause coming

922
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: out of there. I mean, it's your dream, it's my

923
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: dream home.

924
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: I church of mine. I was like, this is gonna

925
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 2: be our house. It's half of a horse's ass into

926
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: a wall.

927
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like so many times I's like no

928
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: dumping and.

929
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: No police crossing, and then it's like this is Richard Dreyfus,

930
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: This an ugly little Dutch boy.

931
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do love that mix of like old

932
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: Renaissance paintings and then like movie star prints framed in

933
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: metallic frames, which we're obsessed with.

934
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: As I just got my creepy childhood drawing in a

935
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: metallic frame, and you just got a metallic frame.

936
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: I just got metallic frames up the homes. I mean,

937
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: I guess like the part that's the most great guard

938
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: is like the piano covered and framed photos of like

939
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: family members and all movie stars.

940
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: Because then like Debbie's house is so covered in frames, yes,

941
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: because her house has like pockets of Debbie where then

942
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 2: that Debbie's house is just entirely frames, like old frame

943
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: photos and like Chinsey fabric. Right, it's being more fabulous

944
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: Grandma Hollywood, where she like won't sell the Ocean's eleven

945
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: rat pat costumes, and she's being like, these are my boys,

946
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: which was.

947
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: It was crazy, it was crazy beautiful and so me, yeah, these.

948
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: Are my boys. But right, it's like she has kind

949
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: of some parts of her house that are also kind

950
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: of a dobo.

951
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you're right, if.

952
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: I may, but then also like early slim sub zero

953
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: with Okay, what is she eating? I mean coke, coc cigarettes.

954
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: It's not clear what else she's eating, but like she

955
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: probably is she is because she is like the scene

956
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: what she needs her dad. She's kind of like huge, Yeah,

957
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: filmed at a different.

958
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: Time, fluctuating, and in the book, she talks about how

959
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: her mother felt betrayed when she cooked a meal.

960
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: Her mother was so like, we're not we don't eat,

961
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: we're movies start movie starts.

962
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: We don't like slave over a stove, like we're going

963
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: to Gallas movies. She makes us to fla at one point, Wait,

964
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 2: I think she's like is like whipping up a random

965
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: Julia Child recipe, like in a manic state, as she

966
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: calls herself hypomanic.

967
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean it was seeing shades

968
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: of me in her a little bit with the just

969
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: like it's ten PM, I'm gonna cook this whole chicken dinner,

970
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: and then like she's eating the entire thing over the

971
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: course of the next day.

972
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: It's very the substance also just like bones everywhere. Yeah,

973
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: I think it's like shades of you words manic ten

974
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: PM complicated recipe. It's not like day by day she's

975
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: making a bull and a cucumber solid.

976
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: It's like but then the assistants are filling up the

977
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: fridge with like yoga and berries and granola and like

978
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: normal stuff.

979
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's having like a bowl of like special K.

980
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, she's so nineties. She's having a bowl

981
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: of like special K blueberries.

982
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: I guess I think she's more like granola because I

983
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: think the assistants are buying the more modern food. Although

984
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: this is like in the two thousands, so maybe there's

985
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: some special K in there.

986
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 2: But right maybe it's like a more modern I feel

987
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: like it's like Elizabeth's granola, Brad's organ.

988
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's kind of like funky Cambridge mom.

989
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: I saw her half sister, Tricia Lee Fisher, who's the

990
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: full sister of Jolie Fisher. Of course she was performing

991
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: at that amazing celebrity jazz club. I went to an

992
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: La Vibrato when I was in La.

993
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: Risha Fisher is a jazzist.

994
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and she was performing on things get here.

995
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: I went the day after her, I guess I went

996
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: on Friday and I saw like.

997
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: Okay, almost like you're her half sister.

998
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: Basically half sisters. What does she wear?

999
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: It's a little QVC like in the.

1000
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: It's kind of like larger music teacher stuff, yeah, which

1001
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: is like leopard flats leggings, big button down yeah, and like.

1002
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: A lot of like roomy black with like bell sleeves

1003
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: and then like maybe like a red collar that has

1004
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: music notes on it.

1005
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: And then like you know, her vibe is very I think,

1006
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: go back to our impression fright. Her vibe to me

1007
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 2: is very the awesome woman who works at the Burster's office.

1008
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: No, when there's like a Doe badmin woman that has

1009
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: your back, Yeah, and she's like, hun, let me see

1010
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: what I can do.

1011
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, click click click click.

1012
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: Because she has like red hair, and it's that red

1013
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: that is very like nineties mom red. Like yes, it's

1014
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: o kind of this deep, it's faux apple. It's like

1015
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: this macintoshie kind of.

1016
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: Red or what you're calling the color of the year,

1017
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: like burgundy.

1018
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: No, it's very different than that color of the year.

1019
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: It is like nineties sitcom like soft maroon.

1020
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: Was what I said, Mom red and she has Sharon Osbourne.

1021
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: Yes, and she was in rehab with Ozzie and she

1022
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that went well, that was crazy.

1023
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: Sorry.

1024
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: The line where she talks about fucking herself with the

1025
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: princess leos the princes, Yeah, she's like, guess the doll

1026
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: was straight. Yeah, the hand broke off all fingering me. Hello, okay,

1027
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: who are you in the bug? I do think my

1028
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 2: like humor is a little more Carrie, but I think

1029
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm more Debbie going into debt buying ruby red slippers.

1030
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do see it as like an unwieldly large

1031
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: collection of memorabilia.

1032
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: Well, the part where she's really sobbing and like can't

1033
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: sell her rat pack memorabilia and she's like, I can't

1034
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: see it go. Yeah, They're like you need to sell that, babe.

1035
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess I definitely see shades of my

1036
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: own mania and Carrie Fisher, but also like a funkiness

1037
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: and like a willingness to get on a.

1038
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 2: Bed m yeah, and live and live, Live, Live and

1039
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: live life. I have this book kind of like four

1040
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: point seven yokes out of five, Like I was laughing aloud.

1041
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 2: I mean, it is a memoir. It's very short because

1042
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: it is more of like a one woman show book,

1043
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: like humorous take.

1044
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: I will go ahead and give this book four point

1045
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: five heart attacks in an aviation space. I feel like,

1046
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, it was funny. I was listening to my

1047
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: friend and he was just like, oh, like, she keeps

1048
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: going on and on about Carrie Grant for like forty

1049
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: five minutes and the story is not going anywhere. And

1050
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, But I was like, but you know,

1051
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: from the perspective of someone who reads a ton of memoirs,

1052
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: I so appreciate that she is like not doing the

1053
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: tried and true same stupid whate was me like annoying,

1054
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: like self righteous arc and like.

1055
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: Right, she spends as much time on like her marriage

1056
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: to Paul Simon, which was very heartbreaking, as much time

1057
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 2: as the Carry Grant story, which I found hilarious and

1058
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: for us old Hollywood buffs, it's actually pretty fun.

1059
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: But I just loved the kind of general self effacing

1060
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: tone and her willingness to be super sassy and just

1061
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: call herself a faghag a million times. And it was

1062
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: a joy. And I think the Company Woman show is

1063
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: a joy, and the doc is a joy in her

1064
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: whole her tone is a joy.

1065
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: Just her kind of knowledge about herself. Yeah, I think

1066
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: just the self awareness is really fun. Yeah, so Carrie,

1067
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: we miss you.

1068
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: And you know, as to whether or not I would

1069
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: ever get electric shock therapy one day the jury is out.

1070
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: It's funny.

1071
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: You don't need it.

1072
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't need it and I don't want it. You

1073
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: need something else for sure, And I just think it's terrifying.

1074
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: But she's a big proponent of it.

1075
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Well I think it does work for the severely depressed

1076
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: as kind of a last ditch effort. But yeah, I

1077
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: just thought it was so fun, so wonderful, and I just.

1078
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: Love being reminded of her contributions to the American canon.

1079
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love kind of the way her time in

1080
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: her career just kind of like and then postcards. I

1081
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: forgot it anyway, Yeah, that humility, let me tell you,

1082
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: just like a funny story about Star Wars, not kind

1083
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: of drone on about.

1084
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also let's not forget she was the friend

1085
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: in when Harriet me and Sally and she's so good

1086
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: in that.

1087
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're kind of a family of friends because Jolie

1088
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: Fisher is the friend in Ellen. It's kind of like,

1089
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it is very friend family. It's being the

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Speaker 2: funny girl with a lot of hair, yeah, and being

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Speaker 2: a brunette.

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Speaker 1: Yes. So cheers to l Burnettes. We love you, okay,

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Speaker 1: best best.

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Speaker 2: Once in a Galaxy far far away, in the land

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Speaker 2: there is only one supervising producer, and his name is

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Speaker 2: Aboo Zafar.

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Speaker 1: A long time Ago in a Galaxy far far away,

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Speaker 1: this podcast was executive produced by the Imperial Galactic Princess

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Speaker 1: Christina Everett. Boo Boo Boo.

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Speaker 1: MC three po and I'm here to tell you that

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Speaker 1: the music original music of this podcast was produced, recorded, lyricized,

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Speaker 1: and performed by Stephen Philippforts.

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Speaker 2: What a lovely man he is. We did co create

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Speaker 2: this podcast with an alien known as for Low Projects.

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