WEBVTT - The Bulls Are Reaching An Impass

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<v Speaker 1>No team. Is that a bigger crossroads right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Maybe I don't know if that's actually true, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicago Bulls are at an impassed The Bulls currently

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen and twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>They're currently ninth in the East. But here's the little

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<v Speaker 1>wrinkle that.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of makes it more interesting. They've also won seven

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<v Speaker 2>of ten, so they're the second hottest team in the

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern Conference behind Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do? What do you do if

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<v Speaker 1>they're the Chicago Bulls?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you try to salvage the rest of the season

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<v Speaker 2>in hopes of maybe trying to make a play in

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<v Speaker 2>tournament like seven or eight seed?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you cut bait? Do you rebuild?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you hope that a Lonzo comes back fully healthy

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<v Speaker 2>next year? I don't even know if the Bulls know

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<v Speaker 2>what they want to do, honestly, I don't. They keep

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<v Speaker 2>making these statements, keep doing one thing, saying another. But

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<v Speaker 2>everyone seems to be on the trade Balark right now,

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<v Speaker 2>derozen Levin, Crusoe, Vooch all rumored to be on the move.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of players that are superstars or stars.

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<v Speaker 2>So Caruso I would consider to be a very high

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<v Speaker 2>valuable piece Derozen was leading in clutch field goal percentage

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<v Speaker 2>for most of last year, had MVP buzz. Levine is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a certified bucket. Vouch is a guy who can

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<v Speaker 2>get you ten rebounds, doesn't play a lot of defense,

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<v Speaker 2>but he can score his ass off, and all are

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<v Speaker 2>rumored to be gone.

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<v Speaker 1>What might seal the deal though?

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<v Speaker 2>On this are the rumors courtesy of the Chicago Sun Times,

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<v Speaker 2>is that there might be big trouble with team chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>You say it ain't so, say it ain't so. A

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<v Speaker 2>growing rift between Zach Levine and Billy Donovan. Could not

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<v Speaker 2>have seen that coming whatsoever, According to the Sun's Times

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<v Speaker 2>reporter Joe Cally, who Levin Billy Donovan player relationship player

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<v Speaker 2>coach relationship remained somewhat strained in the wake of a

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<v Speaker 2>November eighteenth late game benching in which Donovan chose to

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<v Speaker 2>ride out the final minutes minutes against Orlando with Leavin

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<v Speaker 2>out of the game. I remember this like it was day,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was just yesterday. Why is Levin not playing

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth quarter? It became kind of a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Leavin expressed his displeasure. That's one way of putting it right.

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<v Speaker 2>He was pissed with Donovan's decision immediately after the game, stating, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Billy's decision. He's gotta lay with it. They lost

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<v Speaker 2>that game, He's gotta lay with it. Do I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with it?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I can go out there and still be

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<v Speaker 2>me even if I miss some shots. That's his decision

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<v Speaker 2>and he's gotta stand on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Woo woo whoo. November eighteenth, guys checks notes. It's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up on two months ago that I happened.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still upset about this, Yeah, apparently so. The trouble, though,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, is that both of them just signed long

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<v Speaker 2>term deals like just last fall, Donovan in secret in

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<v Speaker 2>like September. Levine sign a max contract in June or

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<v Speaker 2>July that pays him through the twenty twenty six twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven season. He will where he will make a

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<v Speaker 2>shocking forty nine million dollars per year.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like a very side road.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think secret extensions should be a thing. That

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<v Speaker 2>does not make sense. Why are we signing Billy Donovan

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<v Speaker 2>to an extension in secret because they know nobody is

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<v Speaker 2>for it, you know, and you know you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>heat for that. Do not try to sneak this in

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<v Speaker 2>on a slow news day, do not anyway, Levigne obviously ballin.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a bucket, but he's battling injuries. He's averaging twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three game his knee I think is gonna give some

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<v Speaker 2>team's pause. I do good enough probably for someone to

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<v Speaker 2>take a chance, because he's just that good at scoring

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<v Speaker 2>if the Bulls actually choose to shop them. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>the big question. The trade deadline is a month away.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Bulls fade or go through a slump, he

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<v Speaker 2>actually could be on the move. If they play well,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll probably stay. They might actually be buyers at the deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you've got Kadie out for a month. At least,

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<v Speaker 2>you got the Celtics in disarray. Other teams are struggling

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<v Speaker 2>at various times. He obviously have been okay recently, but

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<v Speaker 2>not really good period, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it's probably gonna take a big time falling out

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bulls to give up on the season.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're looking at all these other teams that are

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<v Speaker 2>struggling and you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our opportunity. I mean, until then, the Bulls

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<v Speaker 1>are a team to watch closely.

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<v Speaker 2>And people will say like, which one do you choose

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<v Speaker 2>if there is a big time rift like Nate McMillan

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<v Speaker 2>and Trey Young, do you choose Billy Donovan or do

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<v Speaker 2>you choose Zach Lavine?

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it's very simple. It's actually like should have

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<v Speaker 1>been done only to neither neither.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want either of these guys. Zach Lavini one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most ball dominant dudes in the NBA with

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<v Speaker 2>one knee. He's had multiple arthroscopic surgeries. Like this guy

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<v Speaker 2>is getting paid fifty million dollars. He can't play defense.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to eventually slow down in terms of getting

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<v Speaker 2>separation to the rim, getting buckets on his own. They

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<v Speaker 2>both make way too much damn money because they are

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<v Speaker 2>not affecting winning in any way, considering that this team

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<v Speaker 2>is hoping to be a playing team. Billy Donovan's a

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<v Speaker 2>classic college coach like Yukon's head coach Dan Hurley, where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like he's yelling at players. He's a control freak.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just absolutely benching dudes for no reason. Both of

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<v Speaker 2>these are trash. Both these are trash decisions for the Bulls,

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<v Speaker 2>And lately we saw it, We saw it happened today

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona Cardinals gave up on Cliff Kingsbury less than a

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<v Speaker 2>year after extending him. He gets fired to day, so

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<v Speaker 2>neither should have been extended. If the Bulls want to rebuild,

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<v Speaker 2>they blow it all up. They get rid and they

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of de Rosa, they get rid of Donovan,

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<v Speaker 2>they get rid of I guess you get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>Caruso because you're gonna get a lot for him, get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of Bouch. Literally, just rebuild it all up. You

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<v Speaker 2>gotta ditch both bad contracts for sure. Send Levine off,

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<v Speaker 2>probably can get two first round picks for him, Send

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<v Speaker 2>Billy back to some college team like maybe like some

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<v Speaker 2>other version of Iona.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, take those picks and rebuild that team

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<v Speaker 1>from the bottom up.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was some news recently that someone in the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA wanted to beat the shit as Skip Bayless. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't shock me. There's no sports media comment earth

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<v Speaker 2>that has had a worse week than Skip Bayless. There's

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of people who have had worse weeks than Skip

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<v Speaker 2>Bayless outside of that. In the week wait though, of

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<v Speaker 2>the Monday night game between the Bills and the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 2>Skip obviously tweeted a bunch of dumb bullshit about how

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<v Speaker 2>the game needs to be played.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not really well worded.

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<v Speaker 2>He took a bunch of heat for from the Fox execs.

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon his co host, didn't show up. As you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was mad at Skip Bayless. Shannon short Sharp was mad.

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<v Speaker 2>They got into an argument. As it turns out, according

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<v Speaker 2>to Matt Barnes on All the Smoke, he had to

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<v Speaker 2>hold back an NBA player from losing his shits on

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<v Speaker 2>Skip Bayless.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what Matt said. I have personally had.

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<v Speaker 2>To diffuse two situations, one with a coach and one

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<v Speaker 2>with an NBA player. They wanted to fuck Skip up.

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<v Speaker 2>One was this year, one was last year. Luckily cooler

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<v Speaker 2>heads prevailed. But it's just gone too far. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>Does this shock anyone?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Skip is the king of saying shit.

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<v Speaker 2>He does not mean that degrades and dehumanizes people in sports.

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<v Speaker 2>These personal biting attacks. Remember the Richard Sherman back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth that happened in Richard Sherman's like second or third year,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's gonna end up hurting Skip. I think now, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't wish pain and suffering on anyone, but if your

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<v Speaker 2>Skip Bayless, you probably want to ratchet down those takes

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<v Speaker 2>you do when you're doing things like questioning why teams

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<v Speaker 2>would pay someone when you have that big of a microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>This is probably not gonna end.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The question that I have is like who is the player?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was it?

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<v Speaker 2>I need to know. I don't know who it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I need the tea, I need Matt Barnes to tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me know who you think it is. I need

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<v Speaker 2>to know is it. I could see it being like.

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<v Speaker 1>A Pat Beverly. I could see it being.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like a Boogiey Cousins. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Boogie Cousins would smash Skip Bayless. All right, quick update.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember our episode before Christmas about the Dallas Mavericks. I

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<v Speaker 2>went on record saying that of all the moves that

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<v Speaker 2>the mass could make, signing Kemba Walker, probably the most

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<v Speaker 2>inexplicable move made no sense. According to people on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>I should just get into the kitchen, let the big

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<v Speaker 2>boys talk. But the who was I really the question?

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Cuban, the MAVs for an office, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what, folks, I have an update for you. The

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<v Speaker 2>MAVs just waved Kemba Walker after three dismal weeks for

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<v Speaker 2>two way guard McKinley Wrights, just days before Kemba Walker's

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<v Speaker 2>salary was guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you guys kidding me? You see what I was saying?

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<v Speaker 1>They waved him three weeks is all. It took three weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Color me stunned. Stunned folks.

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<v Speaker 2>I could not have possibly seen how that was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go sideways. I could not have possibly seen how that

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be an impossibility for them to be

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<v Speaker 2>good in any way with someone who does not play defense,

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<v Speaker 2>with bad knees, who's undersized on a team that needs

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<v Speaker 2>buckets and defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Really floored that Facundo Composo and Kemba Walker weren't the

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<v Speaker 2>answers for the mass.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it couldn't see it, couldn't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen brunts and leaves and yeah, that's a hole that

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<v Speaker 2>Fakundo Composo and Kemba Walker can fill.

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<v Speaker 1>This is wild. He's a legend. I love Kemba Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's broken. He's broken. And for people to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what you're saying, our eyes tell us

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<v Speaker 1>everything we need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Just know that our eyes see everything, and the and

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<v Speaker 2>the key to life is to not allow other people

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<v Speaker 2>with bad eyes to tell you your eyes don't work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the key, because they will gaslight you.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes people with perfectly good eyes try to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you your eyes don't work when they see I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>to you, famous LOKs. Talking to you got into my

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<v Speaker 2>comments section of Jordan Poole being an absolute disaster. There

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<v Speaker 2>are people who try to gaslight you that see exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what you see, and they will tell you in a

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<v Speaker 2>quiet moment that they see that. But on the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>they tell you you don't know what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know basketball, and you're seeing something that no

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<v Speaker 2>one else sees. Yeah, don't let them do that. Never

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<v Speaker 2>let them do that. As an addendum, Jason Tatum is

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<v Speaker 2>lobbying to bring Kemba Walker back to Boston, as if

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<v Speaker 2>the Celtics have any more reason to add drama to

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<v Speaker 2>their plate. Kemba Walker in Boston made Brad Stevens never

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<v Speaker 2>coach again.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, he gave up the game. He was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, this isn't for me, This isn't for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Xies and O's leader of men, kemb is leading a

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<v Speaker 2>revolution in the locker room. There's a coup happening, don't

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't sleep. Kemba was leading a revolution in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Missoula is gonna need a new.

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<v Speaker 1>Set of prayer beads. What are those called? The rosary beads.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna need a new, brand, new, spanking set of

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<v Speaker 2>rosary beads to try to handle Kemba Walker, Brogden and

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Smart in the same Walker room. If that shit

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<v Speaker 2>were to go down, that's absolutely bonkers. That's just something

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<v Speaker 2>that needed to be said that there's really no news

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<v Speaker 2>there other than hey, the MAVs wave Kemba Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's this podcast. Finally, let's move on. We've covered Kyrie.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot, because, let's face it, he's just a walking

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<v Speaker 2>soap opera and that's just lovely. His entire tenure with

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<v Speaker 2>every team, not just the Nuts, the Celtics, the Calves,

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<v Speaker 2>all that, since though, what was it anti semitism gait,

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie has been absolutely insane, quietly balling the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 2>The question, though, is why Kyrie was asked the recently

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<v Speaker 2>and told Brian Lewis, a reporter for The New York Post,

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<v Speaker 2>is what he said, well, if basketball is a very

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<v Speaker 2>simple art for him, so if I don't bring all

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<v Speaker 2>my extra distractions or anything that I'm going through mentally

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<v Speaker 2>into the game, that's something that I've taken responsibility for

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<v Speaker 2>on my own end, just to be positively reinforcing what

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<v Speaker 2>we can do to win games no matter what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Dare I say Kyrie Irving is Ben Matrind say it ain't.

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<v Speaker 1>So he continued just.

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<v Speaker 2>Being mentally prepared, using a lot of sessions in the summer,

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<v Speaker 2>challenging myself to be ready for these moments where I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to be swayed emotionally. I'm in control of

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<v Speaker 2>my emotions, in control of my thoughts. Listen, He's always

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<v Speaker 2>said he's a mental warrior on the court, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is very in step with that philosophy. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's really not always worked. People can say that they

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<v Speaker 2>control what they can control, but let's be honest, the

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<v Speaker 2>mind is a dangerous place to let play out. And

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<v Speaker 2>right now he's doing what he says he's gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>Since his suspension at Kyrie Irving is averaging twenty six,

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<v Speaker 2>five and five and the Nets have just won every

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<v Speaker 2>single game. It feels like eighteen of twenty there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>you can do to stop them. Fourth quarter scoring Banana's

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<v Speaker 2>just like first quarter. His poise is elite, His calm

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<v Speaker 2>demeanor is even making Kevin Durant absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Gush over him.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet yet the big Kyrie news this week is

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<v Speaker 2>that he wore a pair of shoes that said free

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<v Speaker 2>all oppressed people. It's probably an old pair of shoes

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<v Speaker 2>that he just forgot had.

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<v Speaker 1>That on it Sunday in his game versus the Heat.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they won, same game where Kevin Durant went

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<v Speaker 2>down with an MCL's brain. Of course it made news.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, like I said, are this old pair of shoes?

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<v Speaker 2>I've had these for a while. You know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make any new statements. I've had these sins,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. October of twenty twenty one. Who is he

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of? Who is he speaking of these oppressed people?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he talking about, you know, just the collective, just everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>like the wigurs in China? Is he talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>Native Americans indigenous people who lost their land? Is this

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<v Speaker 2>a continuation of this hotep message about the original black Israelites.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to know he probably won't say because he's maturing.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact is, the two days previous, Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 2>wore a pair of shoes that read free all of

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<v Speaker 2>My people in a game against the Pelicans, and no

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<v Speaker 2>one said anything. The reason is because Kyrie Irving says

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of dumb shit and everyone's waiting for him

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<v Speaker 2>to say something dumb again. That is maybe the right thing,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the wrong thing. I don't know, but in these

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<v Speaker 2>quiet moments when shit is not hitting the fan, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to say the Brooklyn Nets and Kyrie are one

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<v Speaker 2>of the greatest shows on the court and I love

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<v Speaker 2>watching him play basketball. I need more of it, please

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you. Because we know what's gonna happen. There's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be another cairierving controversy, and his play is gonna diminish.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably gonna step away temporarily, and before you know it,

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<v Speaker 2>you just kind of have to enjoy the sunshine before

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<v Speaker 2>the next bomb cyclone comes and drops another tree on

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<v Speaker 2>a house. So that's all. That's all the time that

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