WEBVTT - Doomsday Prophecies From an End Times Expert 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:08.160 It wouldn't take too much to take that whole infrastructure down, 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.680 with the grids being the lynchpin. All right, all right, 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.640 So I don't know how to explain it other than 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:22.160 to explain it. Get an email. Email leads to an 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:26.840 exchange that says, I need you to fly to this airport. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.160 I'm not gonna say the airport because I've been uh 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.959 entrusted to not say the airport. Fly to the airport, 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:42.479 Await further instructions. Awaiting further instructions, get a text, get 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:47.720 a rental car, drive out, two hours in the wrong direction, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:53.159 my fault, drive back, get to another location, get bounced 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.120 to a second location, and eventually find myself on a 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.600 rural country road, stopping in front of a gate with 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:04.920 no single markers at all. Where am I? I'm at 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:13.360 an undisclosed mountain readoubt for James Wesley Comma rawls. We're 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.119 going to the name thing later, head of a survival movement, 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:21.560 what they call the American Readoubt. Former Army intelligence officer 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:28.120 and a guy who's got a predistinct stance. I'm becoming apocalypse, 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.840 all right. So usually I can tell you simple things 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.360 like where I am, how I got there, can't do 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.400 any of that. What I can do is tell you 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.760 who I'm with, and who I'm with very specifically, is 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.880 a guy named James Wesley Rawls, or as his books 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.880 like to call him, James Wesley Comma Rawles. So you 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.160 have to pause before the roles. So first of all, 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:09.080 why the comma in the name? Why James Wesley Comma Rawles. Okay, 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:14.280 the comma distinguishes between the given name and the family name. Okay. Well, mostly, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:15.880 You've got a couple of books on the New York 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:20.079 Times bestseller list, and these would be well the Patriots 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:26.600 novel series, starting with Patriots and then Survivors and Founders 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.880 are what are the what are the books about the Patriots? 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:34.000 We're here? The Patriots novel series is a post apocalyptic 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.400 novel series set in the near future UH describing a 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:44.239 full scale socio economic collapse and the adventures of a 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.639 large number of people all over the country living through 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.679 those turbulent years. What I find interesting about this is 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.680 that it's a social collapse. It's a socio economic collapse, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.520 Whereas if you had written these books ten or fifteen 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.840 years earlier, twenty years earlier, it would have been a 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.160 nuclear war, you know, it would be some kind of 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:05.840 kerfuffle with another foreign national. What happens to cause the 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.959 real trigger is the U S national debt and the 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:16.000 compounding interest on that debt, and the growing reliance of 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:20.560 the federal government on foreign creditors to keep financing that debt. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:25.440 Right now, the national debt takes up as much of 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:30.000 the national budget as national defense. Just interest on the 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.160 national debt is now nearly as much as the entire 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:38.080 defense budget. I think the chances are that we are 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.240 already living in what people in prepper circles referred to 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:47.520 as a slow slide scenario. What we're seeing in our 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:53.520 current economy is a false sense of prosperity that's driven 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:59.680 by debt. The the level of indebtedness public and private 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:05.920 has essentially tripled in the last twenty years. And it's 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:10.200 that it's an injection of basically cheap money or free 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:15.880 money that's perpetuating the stock market. It's it's pushing along 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.800 governments at all levels, and it's providing the money for 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.320 the welfare state and a lot of other things that 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:28.560 are just chugging along. So the premise of the novel 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.760 is that foreign creditors at some point have a Emperor 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:38.480 Song Squirts moment and realize they're never conna be able 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:43.400 to pay this back. So, uh, it causes a collapse 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.800 in the US dollar on the for X, it causes 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.039 a stock market collapse, and then a full scale route 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:55.039 on the US dollar itself where it basically becomes worthless 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.560 over the course of just a few weeks. It becomes 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:03.280 worthless in international perspective and also domestically hyperinflates because of 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.760 the international perspective, right, right, Because I've often thought at 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:10.040 times that you know that if if the US, if 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.440 we're gonna be run like a mafia crime family at 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.880 a certain point, that the U s would say about 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.719 all of this debt, you know what, I'm not paying. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.000 But if I get about trying to pay, I'm actually 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.920 not paying you, you know. So, as Tony Soprano once famous, 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.080 like sad though serious is what happens. If you don't 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:31.560 pay them, you gotta pay, and unfortunately foreign creditors have 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:36.480 to be paid, and if the currency unit itself falls apart, 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.040 and then you're in okay. So this is the premise 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.840 of the series, but you've gone beyond that, right, I mean, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.359 this is this is a case of you know, walking 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.440 it like you talking. That's why we can't tell people 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.960 where we are. And I live at a very remote 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.360 location in the inland Northwest. I can't say what state 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:58.520 I live in. And uh, we live a very quiet life, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:04.720 surrounding by national forest and very pretty area. And we're 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.120 we homeschool our kids. We live fairly self sufficiently. We 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:13.040 garden for most of our produce. We hunt, we fish, 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:17.120 we raise livestock. It's a fairly self sufficient lifestyle. So 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.920 I do kind of walk the walk. Um, So, now, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.479 where did you go to high school? Because I've often 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.239 said that people are from where they went to high school. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.680 I went to Livermore High School in Livermore callis count Livermore, California, 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.680 which is an Alameda county, right down the road from 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.840 Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. My dad worked at the lab. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.320 Most of the kids I grew up with worked at 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.840 the lab. Their parents worked at the lab. And it 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.000 was an interesting place to grow up because we have 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.080 the largest number of bomb shelters per capita of any 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.160 city in the United States. And all the kids I 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.640 grew up with were either the children of people who 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.239 designed nuclear weapons, or worked in other programs at Lawrence Labs. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:04.000 My dad was a nuclear um program manager uh in 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.520 be division of the lab. He actually worked with cyclotrons 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:14.960 and linear accelerators and worked in experimental physics. And they 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.480 called pure research applied physics at the laboratory means you're 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.800 designing nuclear weapons. So, now did this influence your decision 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.080 at all to go into the military. My dad had 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.160 been an Air Force instructure pilots in T three threes 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.760 back in the nineteen fifties, back Korean War vintage. So 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.480 I thought, well, uncle in the army intelligence sounded interesting. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.920 I had interest in foreign language, interest in you know, 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.640 foreign affairs, and uh, the intelligence field really gave me 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.200 a chance to delve into that. I was involved with 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:49.880 some unclassified country studies. Somebody might deduce from giving your 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:56.920 your initial professional calling that your miss on saying is 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.880 informed in a way that it wouldn't be if I 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.480 was doing it. Yeah, I think it gave me a 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.000 different perspective the country studies I was involved in. One 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.760 of the things we're looking at was economic stability. After 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.360 doing all those country studies on Eastern Europe and and 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.920 and watching you know, hyper inflation with the replacement of 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:21.600 the shekel by the new Israeli shekel, knocking three zeros 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.440 off the currency, and having read about the same thing 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.520 happening in Greece and uh, later on I saw the 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.640 same thing happen in Zimbabwe. Uh. That kind of perspective 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:37.160 made me realize that we're standing on pretty uncertain ground 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.680 here in the United States with the level of indebtedness 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:45.040 that we have. It does seem like if Trump's objective 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:49.199 is to reduce the size of the deficit, the tax 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.200 the corporate tax cuts, though they might have been live 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.920 in business, seems to they're not helping if that's where 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.360 they're not happening with the bottom line. And unfortunately, as 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.360 you mentioned, a long term obligation and things like social 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:06.560 security and military pensions, federal government pensions, those long term 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.400 obligations don't They are not even figured in the twenty 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.640 one trillion dollar national debt. If you count them those 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:18.160 long term unfunded obligations into the debt, it's actually more 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.360 like a sixty trillion dollar debt, which is three times 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.520 the gross national product. So what happened to these other 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:30.800 countries the country's named Zimbabwe, um well in Israel, in 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.240 recent Israel, they were able to kind of dig themselves 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.199 out of the hole because they had strong economies. In 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:42.720 the case of Zimbabwe, where you had comrade Mugabi who 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.640 was and his cronies who were systematically looting the country, 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:51.200 there was no way out. They had to They basically 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.480 destroyed the dollar. They went all the way up to 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:58.000 printing one trillion dollar bills and then they completely repudiated 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.120 and now they use the South African rand and U 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.160 S dollars. Okay, So that's an economic collapse, but that's 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.240 not a socio collapse, right right. The logical jump in 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:12.839 a modern technologically connected society is that we have a 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:17.080 society with incredibly long chains of supply, a relatively fragile 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.280 power grid infrastructure. We have three grids, the Western grid, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.319 the Eastern grid of the Texas grid, and it wouldn't 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.920 take too much to take that whole infrastructure down, with 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:32.480 the grids being the lynch pin. And what I posited 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.960 in the novel series was that if you have an 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.080 economic collapse and then you have rioting in the big cities, 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.520 all those nuclear power plants have to go offline. They 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:46.440 have to scram the piles of those plants and shut 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.319 those plants down if they don't have a certain level 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.880 of staffing by law, If you don't have people to 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:58.800 handle the equipment, it's not going to happen. You mentioned 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.599 three countries to head and collapse, but they didn't have 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:05.280 full scale riots. Why why Why? Here in America, it's 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.320 awfully easy to get along with what you've never had. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.040 In a country like Zimbabwe, people were already used to 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:15.040 living at a at an agrarian level. In America, we 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.719 are so far removed from our agrarian ancestors, it's not 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.439 even funny. In the nineteen thirties when they had the 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.120 depression of the nineteen thirties, think the society still held 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:31.800 together because of the families were still living off the land. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:37.920 They were still actively and engaged in farming, fishing, ranching, mining, 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.400 They were they were connected to the land. And today 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.480 only one percent of the population is feeding the other 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:50.800 So it wouldn't take very much disruption to basically break 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.000 the food chain. And because I'm in an isolated area, 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.240 it's so far removed from major metropolitan areas, I think 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.199 that the majority of the problems are going to be 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.120 in those major your metro areas. Since we're more than 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.920 a tank of gas away from the nearest major metro area. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:08.880 I don't think we're going to see many problems here. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:14.040 The grid may be down, although thankfully in the Northern 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.000 Rockies most of our power is it's hydro electric. In fact, 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.600 we actually export power. So did that inform your decision, 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.959 did you? Yes? Absolutely, Yeah, the grid is going to 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:29.840 be reconstituted anywhere, it will be in hydro electric areas. First, now, 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.000 you've fashioned in a very real way of a lifestyle, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.640 but you also have done something that you know, you've 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.960 had children, and these are these are kind of uh, 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.640 what do you call free radicals kids? They decide what 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.240 they're gonna do, They're gonna you know, at a certain point, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.079 they're free range kids, free range kids. So now have 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.199 they have they followed suit? Or are they? Most of 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.520 them are prepper oriented and some of them are in 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.280 cities or am I right? Yeah? Well one one is 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.480 living in a major city in Asia right now. So 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.000 that that was a you know, a choice to pursue 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:10.920 an opportunity to be a missionary. So it's there's choices 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.080 and trade offs for everyone. I'm pleased to see though 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:18.320 that the majority of My kids have pretty well followed 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.800 in my footsteps. They're all very pro gun, very pro preparedness, 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:28.719 and basically pro self sufficiency in terms of the way 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.000 they you know, they all have an interest in gardening 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:35.280 and you raising livestock, that sort of thing. How does 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.240 how does I mean if you live in the city, 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.319 you have an interest, but you can well, you know, 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.679 even if you live, even in an apartment, you can 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.760 have a window box garden and growth sprouts, and even 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.240 so w living in a suburban house on a quarter 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:55.240 acre a lot can have a pretty efficient vegetable garden. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.640 Now these and keep rabbits or chickens are these? Are 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:03.679 these ideas form M in a much more major way 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.079 as a result of having been an intelligence officer. Or 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:13.000 are they informed by um religion? Or is it partly religion? 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.240 You know, because I you know, I take the Old 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.560 Testament pretty seriously, and you know, man's supposed to care 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.720 for his own family and provide for his family. But 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.000 I think more of it more than my intelligence background. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.080 It goes back to the pioneering side of my family. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.160 We settled in a remote area. It's even so kind 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.800 of remote, the Anderson Valley of medicine Mendicino County, California 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:45.240 in the eighteen fifties, and they had a six thousand 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.840 acre sheep branch and did just about everything themselves. The 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.640 only thing they would buy when they would sell their 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:57.760 wool each year and sell mutton was salt, sugar and tea. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.640 That's the only thing they had to buy. Everything else 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.800 they produced for themselves. But they were not similarly informed 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.520 by this idea that it was necessary to do this. You, No, 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.200 it was just that was just the culture at the time. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.560 They were worried about the fragility of society like I am, 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.360 but the same money, the same self sufficient mindset I 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:24.360 think really pervades every style of my body. But but 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.880 I guess I'm wondering, is this driven by you know, 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:34.040 end time signals are less that and more that. Look, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.280 I've actually spent my time analyzing what happens to states 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.760 that are failing and that fail, and I'm seeing signs 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:41.920 and i gotta respond to Yes, it's definitely more of 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.680 the latter than the former, because I wonder. I mean, 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:48.000 on the one hand, you might say, there I just 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.600 did a piece on the nineteen seventy seven blackout in 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.880 New York. And the point that I want people to 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:58.800 get to is, you know what happened in July seven? 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:06.000 The whites one out. That's it. Actually people were fairly civil. No, no, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.840 they were civil ninetive the first one. It was sivil. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.440 If they were too there were three. There was one 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.120 before seventy seven, and it was one after seventy seven. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.680 Seventy seven was a perfect storm where the Vietnam War 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.160 hit ended a few years earlier. Okay, the Vets were 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.560 coming back to the city suffering from what we didn't 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.200 know was PTS T at the time Nixon resigned a 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.000 few years earlier. Ford had just told New York City 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.000 to drop dead. I'm not You're gonna bankrupt yourself. Um. 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.800 And it was an interest RCE for sil Sky High. Yes, 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.200 and so the lights went out. I was watching Boretta 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.960 at the time. I remember this, and I kind of 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.280 red and whatever. My mom's no, you could come back 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.120 in the holes and people went for Over four thousand 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.760 people were arrested. Over five of the cops were hurt. 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.320 I didn't realize it was that bad. A special uh, 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.640 a guy I know who's another intelligence guy, especially for 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.280 the guy who then contracts out to like black Water, 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:05.320 and he got called to New Orleans after Katrina, uh, 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:11.760 property protection, and he was like organized gangs. You know, 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.520 they show you in the news people stealing pampers. That's 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:19.119 not it. The banks were people came in with fork cliffs. Uh, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.440 those big auto transports of going up to dealerships and 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.680 there are guys would we pull up? What are you doing? 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:26.520 The guys pull guns on us. We pull guns on 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.520 them and our medals, you know. So it's clear that 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.320 the people, I mean, he wasn't gonna say this, and 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.320 I'm not gonna say it now, but all they say, 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.239 you know, how much money was lost doing the right? 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.080 I think a lot of that was people seeing an 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.159 opportunity and embracing it. It wouldn't take too much to 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.800 cause a total break. And if we get to the 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.639 point where the power grids go down and don't come 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.119 back up for two months, especially if it happens in 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.360 the winter, I'm not sure if they're going to come 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.520 back up for years. And that was the basic scenario 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.480 for patriots. So now, so you've got a book out, 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.200 but then you also in a parallel path that you 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.920 start a website. Right, I did a starting the blog 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.320 in two thousand five called Survival Blog. It's it's a 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.480 very popular blog on family preparedness, and we cover pretty 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:21.600 much every aspect of preparedness, whether it's food storage, communications, equipment, 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:27.800 first aid, water filtration, gardening, livestock, heating your own home 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.200 with firewood, all those sort of topics. You know, I 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:31.960 made the break to the hinterry bunnies, but I was 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.080 only able to do that because I was self employed, 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.440 and unfortunately, most people can't do that. And a lot 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.160 of what I'm doing and Survival Blog is coaching people 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.240 on how they can survive in the suburbs, and that's 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.840 where the majority of my readership still is. A lot 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.679 of people want to move to the inland Northwest region 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.720 that Merritt there that I refer to as the American readout, 0:18:55.320 --> 0:19:00.080 which consists of Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, and the east and 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:04.679 half of Washington and the eastern half of Oregon. That's 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.960 the area that I consider the most survivable. Why because 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:14.640 it's all on hydropower and the population density is incredibly light. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.840 Those are the two main factors that and you know, 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:23.399 there's quite a bit of agriculture, farming, ranching, mining. I 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.440 think that the chances of that region pulling through are 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.240 better than just about anywhere else in the lower forty 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:35.680 eight States. What about the world worldwide? Boy, there, I 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:39.800 think the Pacific island nations would probably have the best 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:44.160 chance to reverting to at least the lightly populated islands 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:49.440 would have the best chance to revert to traditional culture. Yeah, 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:55.040 places like Vandawatu. In places like that, where people are 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:59.520 used to growing ploy, raising pigs, and fishing, they will 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.040 still do it, at least the majority of them, or 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.960 at least half their cousins do, so their chances of 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.800 reverting to that level of technology are fairly high. And 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.040 from a multigenerational standpoint, if we had we literally go 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:18.119 into a second dark Age, I think that would actually 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:22.880 be an even safer place than right here. Got degree 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.159 in journalism. You're paying attention to reading the newspapers and 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:32.200 processing this. How much? How does class factor into this? 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:36.919 Do you see this being primarily a class struggle? Mainly 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.120 class because I don't believe in the whole concept of race. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.680 There's only one race, the human race. Um From a 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:49.399 class standpoint, that there is unfortunately now a dependent class, 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.920 and those are people of all different skin tones, who 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:58.080 are dependent on the system, and a lot of known 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:04.359 even have real jobs. That level of dependency is a 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.480 huge risk. The majority of it, though, I think is 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:12.560 a distinct difference in the in people's outlook on the world. 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:18.159 People are either directed toward part and home and the 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:26.360 land or their technological or urbanite types who I think 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.120 in abstract terms like the funny money that we carry 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.560 around in our wallets. And if if you have a 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:39.200 whole group and it's the majority of your population who 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.440 lives at that level of abstraction and that little level 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.720 of distance away from the land, those are the people 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.000 who are the greatest risk. And those are the people 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.240 that I have to say, I want to be the 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:54.760 farthest away from I want to be living in the 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.240 country with people who live fairly close to the land. 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.640 I think those are the people all have the best 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:05.159 chance of pulling through with because they're also producing their producers, right, 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:09.879 they're also self sufficient relatively, yes, and at least if 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:13.240 there if anyone has a chance of reverting to nineteenth 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:18.840 century level technology, it's probably my neighbors. No, this isn't. 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.800 I've got a friend who's a Trump, who was a 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:25.200 Trump adherent and he says, you know one thing I 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.960 really hate and getting a huge arguments over not politics, 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:32.240 commute lane. So I'm gonna drive into commute lane whatever 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.920 I'll pay, and I go, no, no, no, you don't understand. 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.639 If everybody does what you do, that commute lane is 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.119 just another lane. Right. If we are going to return 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:47.000 to a closer relationship to the land, is clearly in 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:50.360 a nation of three fifty million people that it's getting difficult. 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.920 But I know that less than two or three percent 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.720 of the population is even going to have an interest 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:00.360 in getting back to the land. How do you know this, Well, 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.040 just look at the demographics. The cities are getting bigger. 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:06.400 At the plain states like the Dakotas are actually depopulating, 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:11.040 so it's wyoming. People are still the general trend is 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.200 still towards congregating in the big cities. Why because that's 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.080 where the money is, and we we have a system 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:21.960 that's dollar driven and that has a level of technological 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:26.960 sophistication that's quite appealing to people because that's that's where 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:30.720 the high paying jobs are, that's where the opportunity for 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:35.280 advancement is, that's where the cultural centers are. And yet 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.199 your sons found their spouses not here, but they had 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:42.960 to go to large centers right. Well. Um, in the 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:47.480 case of one of my children, uh yeah, he he 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:52.200 met her at college. But she also happened to come 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:57.640 from a prepper family and she also was homeschooled. Yeah, 0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.000 so they had a lot in common, so they gravitated together. 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:06.040 Their goal is to in the long run, end out 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.199 living as far from the big city as they can. 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:13.439 I don't know that I feel comfortable letting the government 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.399 off the hook. I still hold out some hope for 0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:21.800 the political process. And it's just difficult, though, in the 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:26.920 century to objectively look at what's going on and say 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.639 the chances are better than not that things are going 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.760 to get that things are going to improve. I don't 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:39.760 think we're on that side of the equation. What could 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:43.880 or should the average person do who's listening in order 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:48.480 to guarantee their continued safety in the future. There is 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.640 no guarantee. But there is an actual aial equation which 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:57.240 is and that is that from an actual aial standpoint, 0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.920 if I was an insurance actuary, I would say that 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:06.800 if I was writing a policy for socioeconomic collapse, that 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:09.960 policy would be really expensive for people live in the 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.800 cities and really inexpensive for people in the low risk groups, 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:15.119 and that would be the people who live out in 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.960 the interboonis. So I would recommend that if people have 0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:23.080 the opportunity, if they're either at or near retirement age, 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.520 or if they're self employed, or if they can develop 0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:29.600 a home based business and become self employed, that they 0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:32.600 do that and they develop not one, but two or 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.880 three revenue streams. So if you're self employed, you would 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:40.120 run two or three different businesses so that you could 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.639 pull through all sorts of different economic times, and that 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.639 would be your ticket to move to the Mooney's. And 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:51.119 for most people, even those who hold fairly large mortgages, 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:54.040 cashing out of a house in the big city, would 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.840 buy a much larger house with a barn, with a 0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:00.960 greenhouse on large acreage where they can keep livestock in 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:03.159 the country. But that just doesn't explained that why you 0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:07.400