1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Here we are off the Edge with Cam Jordans Man. 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm grace with the presidence. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Of a guy from Louisiana. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: I swear he was from New Orleans and found out 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: he's from the West Bank. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: I digress a. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Man who went to LSU, you know, played thirteen seasons 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: in the NFL. A pro bowler, my rookiear in the league. 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Twenty eleven podcaster term media mogul savant if you will, 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Ryan Clark appreciates you, big dog, for coming on the podcast. 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: You're a West. 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 3: Banker, Yeah, man from the West Bank. Man. 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 4: I grew up in Murrero and my family moved to 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: Terrytown and you know too, Like being a West Banker 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 4: is a sensitive subject for people who are from the 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: greater city of New Orleans. And so anytime I would 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: say something negative about the Saints or I'd pissed people 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 4: down there off, the first thing they'd say is that 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: they don't claim me because I'm from the West Bank, 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: which I'm cool with. 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: I mean, my area code was still five O four, 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: so I ain't tripping. 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: Right right if you're from the best bank, you know 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: over there at Harvey and everything else. Yeah, that's the 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: movie theater I go to, I prefer because not everybody's 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: willing to go to the West Bank, you know. 27 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean listen, you know, it's like it's one 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: of those crazy things that if you're not from there, 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: you actually don't understand it. And they're probably people listening 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: to this conversation and thinking, like, what's the West Bank, 31 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 4: what's the East Bank or whatever it is? And you 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: would yeah, and you would think it's only separated by 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: the Mississippi River. 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: It wouldn't be that big of a deal. 35 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: But like if you ask people like Tying who you've 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 4: played with, who played for Sata, which is the rival 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: school to the high school that I went to, Archbishop Shaw, 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: Like you find out man, that people take that jug 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: extremely serious. 40 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: No doubt. 41 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: You know, I think we played with the same teammates. 42 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: Keenan Lewis, Who's who's a west Baker? You know you 43 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: played with the I played at the Saints. Uh yeah, 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: west Bank is is a super serious thing. Again, It's 45 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: literally just a bridge. It's a five minute drive from 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: downtown New Orleans to the West. 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: Con But wait, bro let me tell you. 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: Let me tell you this is Keenan got mad at 49 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: me recently and DM me like, really hot, bro, really 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: mad A man, I haven't heard from Keenan. Shoot, maybe 51 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: since he became a saint or since this, you know, 52 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: football career was over. I was just telling this story 53 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: about Antonio Brown and how like pretty much the whole 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 4: entire defense tried to fight Antonio one day. It was 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: the day he signed this deal. Bro, he got that 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: new money. Him and Keenan doing one on ones, And 57 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: the way I explained the story, Keenan didn't remember it 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: like that. 59 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: And what's crazy. 60 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: About it is so many of my other old teammates 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 4: remembered it exactly the same way. Like on the post, 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: they're saying, man, I remember that day, just how it happened. 63 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: Wo right. 64 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: And then here was Keenan hot with me, being like, Bro, 65 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: you know how you talk to Bro. 66 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: You ain't gonna me Bro, Hey, brother, you ain't gonna 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: play with me. 68 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: And like so much so me and Keenan got on 69 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: the phone to have to try to like hash this 70 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 4: story out, and like that's the crazy thing about being 71 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: in the media or podcasting or whatever it is. 72 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: It's like always say. 73 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: All of these stories aren't just our stories, so you 74 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: do have to be like extremely careful how you tell them. 75 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, but the fact you had the co signed by 76 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of teammates. But uh, man, like I said, 77 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate you hopping on the pod you know, pivot 78 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: too or what even got you in the media space? 79 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: You know you you went from like the old school 80 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: way of football of like there's no such thing as 81 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: like social media. There's definitely no such thing as it's 82 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: twitch and streaming, live streaming, pod casting during the season. 83 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: Guys used to have a vlog in like twenty ten eleven, 84 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: and you get. 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: Chasted on the team. 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm just that old. 87 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. My rookie year, there was a. 88 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: Guy maybe twenty twelve had a vlog of a training 89 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: camp and the coaches like flipped their lid, you know, 90 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: like what are we doing? You know, this is how 91 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: we do football, and now it's who doesn't have a podcast? 92 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I will say this, man, the Steelers were 93 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: really good about it. So my entire time in Pittsburgh, 94 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: I had a radio show and eventually had this TV 95 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: show that would come on every two weeks on KDKA 96 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 4: that was hosted with one of the local news guys. 97 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: And so I always was into the media and then 98 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: you know how it is. 99 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: Cam O'Hara was back then in the off season and 100 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: it's still a little bit of that now in the 101 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: off season, ESPN and bring you in an NFL. 102 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: Network, what would bring you in? And I would do 103 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: pretty well, you know, during the car washes and all 104 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: those things. And so the Super Bowl in New Orleans, 105 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: San Francisco, Baltimore. 106 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: I tweeted one day that I wanted to do like 107 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: a TV internship. 108 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: I wanted to learn the business, just be a regular 109 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: analyst for Space. And Trey Wingo introduces me. 110 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 4: To Seth Market marketan who is my boss now at ESPN, 111 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: and I tell them what I wanted to do. I 112 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 4: was like, I want to work for an entire week. 113 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: I want to get my schedule like the analysts do. 114 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: I want to be on every show, whatever it is. 115 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: So I do that and the agent calls me the 116 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: week after and says, I believe I can get you 117 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 4: paid to do TV while you play now like you're right, 118 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 4: Like if you had a vlog back in those days, 119 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 4: it was a big deal. So imagine me walking into 120 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steel With saying I'm going to sign this 121 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: TV contract and my first contract was for forty days 122 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 4: a year, so I worked in the off season, I 123 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: worked in the bye weeks. I did NFL Live every 124 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 4: Tuesday from the building, and they really helped me with that. 125 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 3: But they also understood like how. 126 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: Dedicated I was to football as well, but I was 127 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: building an opportunity for a second career. 128 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: So that's where it started. 129 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: And then I retired on TV for ESPN while accepting 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: my job for my next career at the Combine after 131 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: my last year. 132 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: So it was really cool. 133 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: How I got into it, and I like to say 134 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 4: that I was sort of like first of one of 135 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: those dudes who started planning for that post football career 136 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: while playing very publicly, you know, to that end. 137 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say, guys like you. 138 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: Uh while while I was, you know, a pup in 139 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: the league, I was like, we're looking at guys like you, 140 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: I I. 141 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: Taylor, you know, you know. And then of course Big 142 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: Swag hit the scene. 143 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: And worked as well. You know, Marcus spears. It must 144 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: be a losing anything, but. 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: We like, we like to talk. 146 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: You've been on there long enough, bro, you know, we 147 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: ain't never been shy about talking. 148 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and then the person and 149 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: the personalities. 150 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 4: I do think too, just with the ways that we are, 151 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: I think the personalities translated well to TV. Like for you, 152 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: we've watched you do interview your entire career, and I'm 153 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 4: pretty sure most times you finished speaking, somebody tells you 154 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 4: you're going to be great on TV or people told 155 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: you that early on in your career. And so when 156 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: people start to plant that bug, I think it makes 157 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: you start to focus on how do I start building that? 158 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: And in your case, you know you've. 159 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: Done a great job, not only with this. I've seen 160 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: you work the Super Bowl. 161 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: I've seen you, you. 162 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: Know, be on different networks and show people you can 163 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: do it. And so now when you transition you can 164 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: have some of those options. So kudos to you as well, 165 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: you know, a Hall of Fame career, but still planning 166 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: to do things afterwards. 167 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 168 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: I tell people I'm like, I'm overly obsessive about things 169 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: that I care about and football I'm overly obsessive. And 170 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, they're like, oh, for every person, 171 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you're really good on TV. 172 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: You should do that. No, all I want to do 173 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: is hit people until I can't hit people anymore. 174 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: And then you know, but in the eventuality of one day, 175 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: you know it's over. 176 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad that you know that. 177 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: I've been working Super Bowl since before I was it 178 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: was cool to even work Super Bowls. You know, before 179 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 2: the it was a car wash or to get paid 180 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: to even work super Bowl because as a defensive lineman 181 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: coming out of the Saints, it's not the most marketable team. 182 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: I'll let your name was Drew Brees in twenty eleven. 183 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: You know, we've got way better, way better. 184 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: And also too, you got to thank Cam and like, 185 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: this was my mindset, right. I knew I didn't want 186 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: to just be like one of the rotational pieces of 187 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: the media where you might see me on this show, 188 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: you might see me on that show, but you never 189 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: truly get a foothold in the game to where you 190 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 4: have your own space, you have your own brand. 191 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: I wasn't a quarterback. 192 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: I wasn't going to be a Hall of Fame player, 193 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: and so I had to understand those things and get 194 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: into the business the. 195 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 3: Best way I knew. How while my name was still hot. 196 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: You know, they're going to be some. 197 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: Players whose careers are so great, whose names are so 198 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: big that they could take some time off and then 199 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 4: come back to TV and be received extremely well or 200 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: be welcomed into the sort of jobs that they feel 201 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 4: that they deserved. I didn't think that was going to 202 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: be something I had a chance or an opportunity to do, 203 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: and I think that was why I planned the way 204 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: I did. 205 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: Mmm. 206 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: I mean you worked your way up, man, you took 207 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 2: over and now you know, co host of the ESPN 208 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: as analyst, co host of The Pivot. You know you 209 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: wanted you want an Emmy. Like, in my mind, there's 210 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: a couple of guys that sort of like fit that 211 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: mode of transitioning beyond football as a player, and you're 212 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: definitely one of them, you know. Nate Burrowson is another one, 213 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: you know for sure, But you're in that category. Bro, 214 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: you want you want an Emmy? What does that even 215 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: feel like? Can you compare it to something? Because I 216 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: mean Pro Bowl, pro bo, I've been to Emmy. I've 217 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: never even thought. 218 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: About Yeah, you know, like I didn't really think about 219 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: it either. You know, it was something it didn't really 220 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: feel like that was something that was available to me. 221 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: Oh, I got smart sense going off in the background 222 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: because I want a celebration. I want to Emmy, you know, 223 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 3: and Cam. 224 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think it all came about because of the 225 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 4: night DeMar Hamlin had his cardiac arrest. I was on 226 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 4: TV when nobody else was on TV to talk about it. 227 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: I was on the same network that the injury happened, 228 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: and so everybody was fixated on that moment, and it 229 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 4: was just myself and Scott Van Pelt sitting there and 230 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 4: we had to take the world through this therapy session. 231 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: You know, I never started a season like I'm gonna 232 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: win an Emmy. I never thought that my name was 233 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: big enough or I did the sort of work that 234 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 4: was gonna put those eyeballs on me, because I was 235 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 4: just on ESPN and that necessarily wasn't the biggest name. 236 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: But I think God prepared me for that opportunity, you know, 237 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 4: like I was one of the very I'm one of 238 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: the very few players who had a football injury or 239 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 4: incident almost cost him his life. 240 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: You know. I had a doctor walk into my room 241 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 3: and tell me we can't figure out what's wrong with you. 242 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: We should pray, and I'm looking at him like, nah, bro, 243 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: like you're supposed to do the medicine. 244 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: I've been having folks praying for me for months. 245 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 4: You know, like I'm looking. I'm looking to you to 246 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: tell me what's wrong with me and figure out a 247 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 4: medical way to get me better. And so I've been 248 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: in that position, and I've also been in the position 249 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 4: of knowing, with all of those things going on, I 250 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: was willing to risk my life for this game. 251 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: Again, you know. 252 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: So I understood that, understood what the game means to us, 253 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: how much we're willing to give for like you say, 254 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: be overly obsessive about it. But I also understood the 255 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: human side of it. 256 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: You know. I understood my wife telling me after. 257 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: I had my surgery that every night she went into 258 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 4: the bathroom and closed the door and cried because she 259 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: didn't want me to know how scared she was. 260 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. 261 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: So I knew what Dumar Hamlin's family could be feeling 262 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 4: at that point in time. I had my teammates come 263 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 4: into my room after my surgery, who had been told I. 264 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: Was going to be alright, who had been told I 265 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: was going to heal. I witnessed how. 266 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: Angry they got up on seeing me and laying eyes 267 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: on me and realizing it was so much worse than 268 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 4: what they were being told, right, so much worse than 269 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: the communication the training staff was giving them leaving the room, 270 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: trying to fight the trainers when they go back to 271 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: the facility. And so I was able to wrap sort 272 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 4: of all those experiences up and communicate them in a 273 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 4: way that humanized DeMar Hamlin, that humanized football players, but 274 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: also brought people in on the superhuman things that you 275 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: guys do and can do each and every week. And 276 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: I think that was the reason I got the opportunity 277 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: to win it, and that they say, don't say win 278 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: it to receive the Emmy. And you know, like I 279 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: never really got like a lot of individual awards, you know, 280 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: like I'm not gonna be a Hall of Fame player. 281 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: I look back on it. 282 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 4: I don't know if my number or like I'll ever 283 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 4: be in any ring of honor, whether that be college, 284 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: high school. 285 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: The NFL. 286 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 4: And so it was kind of like the first individual 287 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: thing I got. But I still just looked at like 288 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 4: what the team had did. I looked at the things 289 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: my wife had sacrifice while playing and post career, you know, 290 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: I thought about the people I work with every day 291 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: and the way that they push me, the opportunities certain 292 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: people gave me to be on TV, and I think 293 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: that's what it was more about. And you know, it's 294 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: one of those things I didn't think about winning it before. 295 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: I understand the process now and I think it'd be 296 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 4: cool to win one again, but like, I don't focus 297 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: on it because it's kind of like been there, done that. 298 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: They can't take it away from me, like forever until 299 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: I passed. I'll be a Sports Emmy winner, you know. 300 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 4: And I can live my life with that and think 301 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 4: that that's cool, But you know it, it's about cam. 302 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: If I don't have the respect to y'all dudes, bro, 303 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 3: it don't matter. 304 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: Like when I get to the game, man, Like how 305 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 4: you know I saw you on the field in Kansas 306 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: City and you come dap me up and we can 307 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 4: have those conversations. That means the world to me because 308 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 4: I didn't I wasn't drafted. 309 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I didn't have this career. 310 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 4: Where everybody has to respect me or will just respect 311 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 4: me based on numbers. So I really appreciate when the 312 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: best players in the game, like yourself, do respect what 313 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 4: I do, what I've done in my career or what 314 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: I've done on TV, and so I think that's like 315 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: the part that matters the most for sure. 316 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: I mean that, and you're still you know, you still 317 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: were a Pro Bowl player. It's not like you were 318 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: a guy who just like you know, did something, did something. 319 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: You were part of a vaunted defense and what a 320 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl color player and oh, by the way, one 321 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: you know, like one at the highest level. Yeah sure, 322 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: that's yeah, So you can't do I'm not going to 323 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: just let it, let you belittle yourself in terms of 324 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: like I didn't do it. 325 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: You were a Pro Bowl player, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah. 326 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: But Cam, but you know, you know how it is, 327 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: though Camp, It's like like that there are certain ways 328 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: we see ourselves that it's hard to forget what that 329 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: felt like, right, Like, like it's hard to it's hard 330 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 4: for me to forget Tom Kafflin telling me there were 331 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: other leagues, you know what I'm saying, telling me that 332 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: the Canadian that they played football in Canada, or that 333 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: they had arena ball, or that maybe you should focus 334 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: on special teams and you could get another shot, or 335 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: you know, like we just don't know if you can 336 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: hold up for sixteen games, and it's like it's so 337 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: cliche to have on a chip on your shoulder. 338 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: I actually didn't, you know, like I didn't have this chip. 339 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: Like for me, it was like it was processing all 340 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: the things I had been told I couldn't do and 341 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: trying to figure out a way that you could do 342 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: them if those perceived limitations were real. And like I 343 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: love that, like about the journey and so yeah, I'm 344 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: so blessed to have accomplished what I've accomplished and played 345 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: with the people I played with. But I said what 346 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 4: I said about you as a player and the respect 347 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 4: and the appreciation you give me, the love that you 348 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: give me, How grateful I am for that. 349 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: Because when Troy Polamalu said, is that. 350 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: Like you know, calls me when he gets into the 351 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame and say we did it, we made it, 352 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like that meant the world 353 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: to me, you know what I mean When when he 354 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 4: called me when he won the Defensive Player of the 355 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: Year in twenty ten and was like, bro, we won it. 356 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: You know, like those things are important. 357 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: When Sean Taylor before he passed, was asked who his 358 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: favorite professional athlete was and he said, Ryan Clark, you know, 359 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: like for an undrafted dude, man for a dude that 360 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: was told he couldn't do it. And I think for 361 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: someone who basically put like individual accolades out of mind 362 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: in one of those senses that I felt like I 363 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: would never get him. You know, it's like you almost 364 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: convince yourself like I'm not getting those things because those 365 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: things aren't meant for me, or I'm not making it 366 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: to Pro Bowls because people don't see me that way. 367 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: You know, I remember walking bro one year, man, I 368 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: think it was the year we went to the Super 369 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: Bowl and won it. I didn't make the Pro Bowl 370 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: that year, and I wasn't even disappointed because I guess 371 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 4: I just never expected to. And Coach Tomlin's walking with 372 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: me away from meeting, you know when they tell you know, Cam, 373 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 4: you know you made the Pro Bowl. However, however, it 374 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 4: goes when you're celebrating the people that make it. And 375 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: he put his own around me, and he goes, what's 376 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 4: more important than making the Pro Bowl is working with 377 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: a group of men that know you gave him Pro 378 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: Bowl caliber play the entire season. So those small affirmations 379 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: and confirmations became like part of the reason I worked 380 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: so hard. Uh, And so I guess I don't really 381 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 4: necessarily always need people to talk about the career in 382 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: that way because I feel like I earned the respect 383 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: of the people that matter. 384 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: Stay tuned, we'll be right back. I'm gonna start leaning 385 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: on your analyst work. What did you see in week 386 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: seven that you liked? Like, let'sen, I'm gonna be a 387 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: big pivot right there. 388 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: From okay, from the from the from the week just overall. Yeah, 389 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: over I mean I think that I think the first. 390 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: Thing start with Lamar bro. 391 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 4: You know, Lamar is getting in the Ravens, and I'll 392 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: be honest that you can. When they signed Dereck Henry, 393 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, like, what does that do? 394 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: We're talking about a team that could always run the football, right. 395 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't like the Baltimore Ravens were one of these 396 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 4: teams who lacked the running game. They could always run 397 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 4: the ball since drafting Lamar, So I was like, Okay, 398 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 4: what does this do? How does this elevate them? And 399 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 4: now I see it's look at Derrick Henry being stopped 400 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 4: for most of the game and then he rips went 401 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 4: off for eighty one. 402 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: And you know that's a point. That's a point in 403 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 3: the game. 404 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: If I'm defense right, I'm saying, we got him backed up, 405 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 4: let's get a stop, let's get a short field, give 406 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: our offense the ball. We score, you know, we try 407 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 4: to get the football back. We could get back in 408 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 4: this game. And then he goes for eighty one at 409 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: two point fifty at twenty one miles per hour, And 410 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: now you stack in the box. You're putting eight people 411 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: in the box every snap, and Zay Flowers and Rashad 412 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 4: Bateman out here cooking folks one on one, and our 413 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 4: passing game is elevated by the way when he wants 414 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 4: to run, he's the best athlete on the field. And 415 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 4: so I think just watching them play Tampa Bay, Bro 416 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 4: and score at ease after having a slow start was 417 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: just one of those things that really made you sit 418 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: back and marvel at his at his greatness, and at 419 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: what Derrick Henry's added to that team. And also too, Bro, 420 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 4: I realize now I probably will never say another negative 421 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 4: thing about Patrick Mahons, like even if, like, like, if 422 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes throws five picks, I'm gonna blame it on 423 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: somebody else. 424 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 3: Cam it's going to be the weather, somebody ran the 425 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: wrong route. He don't feel well. 426 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: The kids kept him up because it's like, no matter 427 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: what happens, when it gets to situational football moments, the 428 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 4: dude just shows up. 429 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: You can't teach that, you know. 430 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 4: So I'm like, bro, because he throws the two picks 431 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 4: and he's like, man, Patrick is like sort of playing 432 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 4: well right now. 433 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: And I went to tweet it. I was like, you 434 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: better stop that, fingers. 435 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 4: We're not finna go out here and say nothing bad 436 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: about Patrick Mahomes because I knew it was gonna get 437 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: late in the game. And you know, he already went 438 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: like his feet hurt, like he runs like he was 439 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: born with playing fasci itis, you know what I'm saying. 440 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: So then he and so and so. 441 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: Then he gets the thirty three yard run. He runs 442 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 4: over Mustafa for the touchdown. It's a thirty to eight play. 443 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: Scrambles gets out of the pocket, throws the ball to Noah. Great, 444 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 4: and then you're like, they go Patrick doing that Patrick 445 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: stuff again. 446 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: And I thought that Pat. 447 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: Lowered his shoulder. 448 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: Let's Pat lowered his shoulder and reminded the world he's 449 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: like that he two forty. 450 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 451 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 4: Now now it kind of pissed me off as a 452 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: safety though, right because you got to break some pads 453 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: to Pat now because he running over safeties. 454 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: You know, once they do it one time, they gonna 455 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: keep doing it. Take us for salt. Yeah, they take 456 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: us for salt. 457 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: I'm one of those pause right there and only like, 458 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: I also disliked the way that the game has has 459 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: has sort of inhibited defensive players to hit quarterbacks in general, 460 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: because he's like, all right, let me just get him 461 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: down and Pat was like, no, I'm getting this touchdown 462 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: and let's call it ten years ago. 463 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: We're taking his knees out. Now it's hey, it's a quarterback. 464 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: Hit him, don't don't hip drop. 465 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 2: Tackle him, don't hit him too high, because they're targeting 466 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: You're you're dealing in a complete different era. 467 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: Cam think about the think about the long run though. 468 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 4: People are tiptoeing to the sideline expecting him to run out, 469 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: and because he doesn't run out, you know, and I 470 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 4: think we've seen it. You've seen that all around the game, man, 471 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 4: and you know, for you guys to have to make 472 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 4: the adjustments that you have, I know that's already ready difficult, 473 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 4: But it's the frustration of them taking advantage of those rules, 474 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: Like if you slide and I can't hit you, cool, right, 475 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 4: that's where you were going to be regardless, But when 476 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 4: you take advantage of it and get the extra yards, 477 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 4: or if you're a Mustafa and you get ran over 478 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 4: in the end zone because even as you're approaching, you're not. 479 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: You don't your mind doesn't click into now he's a runner, 480 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying, And so now I can 481 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 4: tackle him differently. And I think the last thing, too, Cam, 482 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 4: is that like Detroit's offense, Bro, what Ben Johnson is doing, Like, 483 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 4: I don't know why he never wants to take a 484 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: head coaching job, And if I'm Dan Campbell, I do 485 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 4: everything I possibly can to continue to convince him to 486 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 4: turn down those jobs. Because Minnesota has been giving people 487 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 4: so much trouble with their pressure packages and the fire 488 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 4: zone split safety defenses, they could play behind it, switching 489 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 4: that to a drop zero and Jared Goff cooked them 490 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: bro fourteen for fourteen to start the game. The big 491 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: play to Amara Saint Brown finishes with the drive to 492 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: set them up for a field goal. So I just 493 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 4: thought all those teams were extremely impressive. 494 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: Man, these are these are facts. I'll say, So what 495 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: about what about this upcoming week? Who are you excited 496 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: to say? Week eight? 497 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? So so week eight? 498 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 4: You know, I was probably more excited to see this 499 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 4: matchup before Jaden Daniels got injured. We were supposed to 500 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 4: see the Commanders versus the Bears where you can see 501 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 4: number one and number two pick right, and and Caleb 502 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: was trending and playing better right, He's trending upwards. 503 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 3: And Jayden Daniels has taken the league by storm, and 504 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 3: so I kind of playing lightshouse. 505 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 4: I wanted to see that matchup and what was to 506 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 4: come up because you were a competitor, right, And if 507 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: I'm Caleb Williams, I'm like, wait, y'all keep talking about this, dude, 508 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 4: Like I ain't the one, right, And if you're Jaden, 509 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 4: if you're Jada Daniels's like, yeah, like Chicago, You're gonna 510 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 4: wish you would. 511 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: Have picked me, you know. So, and so like that 512 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: was that was something you know, I was looking forward to. 513 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: I think the other thing is like how does or 514 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 4: how do the Bengals who can't stop the run at 515 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 4: all figure out how to limit Sakwon Barkley with what 516 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 4: we saw from him last week against the New York Giants. 517 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: Right. Remindre Stevenson had a big day. 518 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: Uh, Derrick Henry had a big day against the Cincinnati Bengals. 519 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: Chuba Hubbard in Carolina, even in the loss, was able 520 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 4: to rack up yards. And I feel like the Philadelphia 521 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 4: Eagles are starting to realize like who sa Quan truly 522 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: is to them, and they have to put the football 523 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: in his hands. And I want to see if Luana 524 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 4: Rumo could come up with a way to stop them, 525 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: because the Bengals have to win or they could be 526 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 4: pushing themselves out of playoff contention. And one of the 527 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 4: best quarterbacks in the NFL. And so those are two 528 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: things I'm really looking forward to seeing. 529 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: M hmm, I'm I'm just gonna add on the third. 530 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: I think the Saints going to l A and beat 531 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 2: the Chargers is what it is. That's that's my prediction. 532 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 3: I mean the Chargers. The Chargers aren't very good. Let's 533 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: hope they aren't the Denver Broncos. 534 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just let's just hope we're getting healthier. We're 535 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: getting healthier as the weeks go on. We just had 536 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: a mini buy cam not getting healthier. 537 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: You're getting healthier, cam. 538 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: Bro. 539 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 540 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll be going to canal. 541 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: Like no the o. 542 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: You know, back in the they used to hit Bourbon 543 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 2: and like I feel like the liquor would keep you 544 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: loose enough so you don't feel those pains. Now everybody's 545 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: you know, so locked in and focused in on prehab, rehab, 546 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 2: you know, and eating the right way. There's like a 547 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: rigid movement to the body. 548 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: Now, I don't you know that's so. 549 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 3: You guys are too healthy to. 550 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: Too strict in our in our dietary meals, Like this 551 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: is not a lot of limbo. So you know, the 552 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 2: guys guys got hurt. Uh you know uh Jovic Jovid, 553 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: our linebacker coach years ago. But like you know, what 554 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: everybody wants to eat and what to eat these clean 555 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: chicken and qing wall. You guys need to go out 556 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: and have a steak in a burger, you know, get 557 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: some get some greas and and fat new system. 558 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: And like. 559 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: I'm sort of leaning on maybe we need some you know, 560 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: some some some fat and grease in the system just 561 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: just is what it is. 562 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: Maybe Dan. 563 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: Skinny Skinny Cam is fully boughty on keen wall keen 564 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: wall and uh and cabbage uh you know steamed not 565 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: sawted and and and juiced. 566 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Uff, no good water, no sodas you know, except for. 567 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: You're not You're not eating cabbage. You're not eating cabbage. 568 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: The New Orleans Blackaway is what you're trying. 569 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: To know, exactly exactly nothing stuff, No chicken stock, no bacon, 570 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: no nothing, no no, no steamed sauteed avocado oil. You 571 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: know there's skinny. You just stay skinny. You gotta you know, 572 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be right and fast. 573 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: You're echo like that. Ain't even cabbage. 574 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: That's one of my moms right there. 575 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: But I know, look, I know you got to go. 576 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: So I appreciate you spending your time bro shooting shooting 577 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 2: with me. You you you're nothing, but you were nothing 578 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: but a consumme of pro on the field. Off the field, 579 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: you're nothing but somebody who I still look up to 580 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 2: for everything that you're doing. Great family man, you know, 581 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: great anilests. I don't know if I'd ever want to 582 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: be an analyst, but like you know it even even 583 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 2: the podcast, the way you hold it down and major 584 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: major moves to now be in the pivot. 585 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 5: That's that's huge in the way that Yeah, man, the 586 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 5: way that you're able to empathize as well as just 587 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: you know, give a viewer the same feels that they 588 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 5: that you have is nothing short but incredible. 589 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: So appreciate you from tapping in with off the edgric 590 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: Candra absolutely a shout out to Ryan Clark for the 591 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: knowledge dropped. I mean the man, the man is become 592 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 2: a legendary, Uh, to transition football, to transcend from just 593 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 2: being a football player undrafted his story, become a Pro bowler, 594 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 2: become a Super Bowl champion, to become a guy that 595 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: you know, teammates love and respect and can lean on. 596 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: Man, that's what this game is all about. Uh. 597 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: For him to be now all you know the analysts, 598 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: A man who holds his own podcast, a man who 599 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 2: anchors shows. That's that's awesome to see. Uh. You know, 600 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: when you have a physical representation, you have something, you 601 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: can create a goal ass Uh. But we're talking about, 602 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: you know, back to what the. 603 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: Saints need to do. We're gonna just say we gotta 604 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: get a win and charge in LA. 605 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: We play the Chargers. You gotta go ahead and create 606 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: some opportunities. You utilize Alba Kamara as much as possible. 607 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: You have to be able to, you know, get the 608 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: ball early and often to a guy like Juwan Johnson 609 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: tight end. I'm gonna say, dark horse of the game. 610 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: He's gonna be amazing. I'm speaking fruition. Just you know, 611 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: our run attack ak of course leading the way. But 612 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: you got Jamal Williams and Kendre Miller, who you know 613 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: is back healthy and active again. 614 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: Healthy is the key. As the week's go. 615 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: On, we're starting to get some guys back, hopefully. You know, 616 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: we've gone from eight hour nine hours starters being injured 617 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: to now we're started to finally see them come back. 618 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: Let's get them back so we can get these winds 619 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: stacked up. You know, last week hurt. Thursday night you 620 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: lose a Denver Broncos and you lose to Sean Payton, 621 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: and yet you know there's there's light at the end 622 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: of the tunnel when you look at it and say, hey, 623 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: these are things that we need to clean up. 624 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: That's that's a that's. 625 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: An alarm that we have to be able to make 626 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: sure we we cover. And then so Thursday we lose 627 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: uh families in town, Sister flies in from Germany. She 628 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 2: lives in Germany now, Uh with a with her husband 629 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: Cassim At, a baldy former teammate. 630 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: Weird awkward another time for another story. 631 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: But you know, come in town and uh, it's it's 632 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: a beautiful situation. 633 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: Guys from from cal showed up. Uh. 634 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: You know, guys like you know Mike Kendricks who played 635 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 2: for the Philadelphia Eagles, Super Bowl champion, Marv Jones, who 636 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: played eleven years in the NFL. 637 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, Uh, my room for college shows up. 638 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: And then you know, before we have the foundation event, 639 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: Cam Jordan Foundation, a dinner with Cam Jordan's. Where where 640 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: I have I can't we now it's I I have 641 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: the utmost hopes and dreams to create a scholarship for 642 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: kids in New Orleans getting to college, pay for four 643 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: years of college. I don't know how many we can 644 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: get done this year, but we know we're gonna start 645 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: up for next school school year. And of course you 646 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: know we're doing all types of activations in the city, 647 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: whether that's Turkey drives, backpack giveaways, giving bikes during Christmas, 648 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: partner up with any and everybody to address any in 649 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: all community needs. It's been nothing short of a blessing 650 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: to be able to even have my own foundation. So 651 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: from there, you know, Friday night, Cam Jordan's first annual 652 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 2: celebrity dinner. 653 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: It was a success in my book. 654 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: You know, not only do a teammate show up, the 655 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: people of New Orleans showed up. He showed out and 656 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: just left with the invigorating responsibility of We've already done 657 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: some good in the city, and how much more can 658 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: we do. I'm just reinvigorated of getting back into the 659 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: community that is New Orleans. 660 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was all positive vibes. 661 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: It went from you know, like we have to focus 662 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: on winning, to God has blessed me so much. 663 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard not to want to give back. 664 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: It's so awesome to have a charity event like that 665 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: where you see so many people from New Orleans, you know, 666 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: even even a couple of fly ins. I really want 667 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: to see a foundation do well, to succeed, and so 668 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: it's just motivating, which brings us to the weekend of refocusing. 669 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: You know, how much more can I give? How much 670 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: more can we be better? What can we do to 671 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 2: be a better team, a better teammate, a better community, remember, 672 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: a better brother, a better better father, my brother, husband. 673 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: This four days is just an idea of being thankful, 674 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: thankful to be employed by the Saints. I'm excited, uh 675 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: to to you know, go to the New Orleans Pelicans 676 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: season opener Wednesday versus Chicago Bulls, a home season opener. 677 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm excited for the Saints to take the field once 678 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: again on Sunday to go have a chance to beat 679 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: the Chargers. And that's pretty much all I have. I've 680 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: I've got nothing but the highest of hopes and that's 681 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 2: the final push with Cam Jordan. Appreciate y'all tapping in, 682 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: tune into the podcast wherever you get your podcasts, leave 683 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: a five star review. And that's uh, that's Apple Podcasts, 684 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: that's iHeartRadio app wherever else, just you know, tune in, 685 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: tap in off the Edge of Cam Jordan, leave a 686 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: five star review. 687 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for everything that will happen, that has happened, 688 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: and it's going to happen. Thank God, bless peace. It 689 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: soft edge with me. 690 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: Cam Joy was treated and shame the