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Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of two Teas in

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Speaker 2: a Pod with myself and Hey, I'm eric Jane in

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Speaker 2: case you know, a lot of people don't know who

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Speaker 2: Erica Jane is, so we really have to introduce ourselves

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Speaker 2: every freaking pot.

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Speaker 1: Well, it could be someone else I call hosting with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just filling in.

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Speaker 3: No, tam always makes fun of me because she goes Teddy,

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Speaker 3: you always introduce yourself on the pod.

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Speaker 1: What if it's someone the first time, right, they need

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Speaker 1: to know that it's Teddy Mellencamp.

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Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure you and I have quite distinctive

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Speaker 3: voices that no one's gonna do.

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Speaker 1: You know that. When I was in the height of

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Speaker 1: my trying to hide during all of that Tom shit,

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Speaker 1: someone said to me, you know I heard that voice.

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Speaker 1: I was like, get away from it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our voices are just the gift keeps on giving.

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Speaker 2: Care.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know. How are you, by the way,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty good. I'm good This next like I thank you.

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Speaker 3: These next weeks, like ten days, are kind of NonStop,

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Speaker 3: so I have my all in by Teddy Retreat, which

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Speaker 3: we filmed once on Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bitch. First of all, I was going over that

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Speaker 1: in my head, and I remember the customized yoga mets

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Speaker 1: they so gently dropped off after we ditched your meeting,

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Speaker 1: and so I remember every moment of it. That was

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Speaker 1: Sutton's like first group thing, and she cried on the

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Speaker 1: way there, and.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, why did she cry on the way there?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. There's been so many tears with her.

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Speaker 3: But well, Dury showed up late because.

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Speaker 1: Of glam yes, but everybody, but it was.

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Speaker 3: So she missed the workout and then we were all

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Speaker 3: fighting in the bar, and then yes, we were. It

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Speaker 3: was like a thirty minute like meditation yoga that actually

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Speaker 3: was one of the best parts of the retreat.

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Speaker 1: Which looked beautiful by the way, And then we chose

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Speaker 1: to stay in the room and be assholes, and then

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Speaker 1: they dropped off our personalized yoga mets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that were laid out next to me by the way,

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Speaker 3: and I felt really bad.

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Speaker 1: I was like, God, damn it, and.

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Speaker 3: I want you to know what it's like to try

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Speaker 3: to meditate laying there when the people that you invited

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Speaker 3: that didn't actually pay to be at the retreat, don't

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Speaker 3: show up.

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Speaker 1: And everyone else hold on, And then you have all

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Speaker 1: of these women and men that did show up, that

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Speaker 1: did pay, and they're you know, they're looking at these

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Speaker 1: blank spaces and we look like total bitches.

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Speaker 3: Well then it's like hold on. From a business aspect,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, now, all of a sudden, this shit doesn't

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Speaker 3: look full, and it is full.

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Speaker 1: It was, and.

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Speaker 3: It was jam back full until my friends couldn't get

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Speaker 3: their shit together third long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Quit beating me up over it. You know what. I'm

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Speaker 1: so over here's to you in the nude like all in.

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Speaker 3: So, anyways, I have my all Invite Teddy Retreat in

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Speaker 3: uh Sedona this weekend, and then I go to Nationals

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Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. Which is why me and Erica

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Speaker 3: will not be recapping OC next week. We're going to

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Speaker 3: take one week off and then we'll do two episodes

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Speaker 3: back to back for you guys.

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Speaker 1: So don't worry, you won't be missing, you won't be

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Speaker 1: missing our cattiness. Yeah, we just need to postpone because

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Speaker 1: Teddy has national tunny. You know what, Sometimes Teddy the

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Speaker 1: horse lady, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what, Sometimes you don't want to half asked something.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe I love that for you, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I know I do. No, I'm not no, I'm not being.

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Speaker 3: Listen at this point. It takes a lot to mine too.

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Speaker 1: At this point, it's pretty much pretty damn near and

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Speaker 1: you know, oh, thank you, you're welcome. Okay, let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. By the way, I want to say one

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Speaker 1: thing just overall about this episode. It was heavily focused

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Speaker 1: on spouses or boyfriends all of the women's you know, relationships,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, well, shit, we couldn't do that on

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Speaker 1: our show because we're all single.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have to ask you a shady question.

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Speaker 3: I start to pick looking at all the guys just

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Speaker 3: there together, not physically. No, who's the sweetest or there

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Speaker 1: No, it's not that Who's somebody that I could tolerate

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Speaker 1: because that's really where I met at my fifty third

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Speaker 1: At this moment, I think that Emily's has shame. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he seems very kind, and Eddie seems very kind, and

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Speaker 1: Katie's has been sat there like a champ until, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, he's and I felt for him because you

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Speaker 1: know how it is. She's new on the show, She's

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Speaker 1: used to this, you know, bullshit, you bring that home,

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Speaker 1: Katie's has been. Matt seemed like a really decent human

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Speaker 1: being sitting there and taking all of this and not

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Speaker 1: you know, his face was pretty pretty good. You know,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't whatever he may be feeling on the inside,

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Speaker 1: it was not showing on the outside. So kudos to

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Speaker 1: you met correct.

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Speaker 3: Well. It starts off with Emily, Gina, and Tamra discuss

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Speaker 3: Emily's fight with Heather and Alexis the night before. Emily

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Speaker 3: thinks Alexis is a lunatic by.

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Speaker 1: The way, and was supported by the word lunatic like

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Speaker 1: everyone agreed, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean the entire world wide web interweb.

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Speaker 1: But beyond that, the women in scene called her that.

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Speaker 3: Right, but also not only did the women in scene

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Speaker 3: call her that, it's common sense that what she was

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Speaker 3: upset about in regards to Emily made absolutely no sense.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, and like we said last week, she was

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Speaker 1: making it about her.

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Speaker 3: But Gina says, Alexis claimed things were coming out about Shannon.

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Speaker 3: Then eight hours later, Shannon is crying on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Shannon says, what the fuck are you doing? Like it's

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Speaker 3: all happening. But I think at this point we see Tamra.

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Speaker 3: Clearly it's Tamra and a camera crew. She's supposed to

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Speaker 3: be calling Shannon. Shannon doesn't answer the phone, and.

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Speaker 1: Then Shannon butt dials camera and here we are, God damn, Shannon.

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Speaker 1: Can't catch a fucking break.

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Speaker 3: Can't fucking catch a break? But also how many times?

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Speaker 3: And I catch myself doing this sometimes too, where I

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Speaker 1: Or I do because I don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I stay listening. Yeah, But then after I stay listening,

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Speaker 1: Like, hey, do you realize you called me? Right?

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Speaker 3: But then the next call was to Heather, which actually

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Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting, Yeah, I saw that SHO. I

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm like, let's hope that she actually did call

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Speaker 3: Shannon back, and we're not seeing that part because clearly

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Speaker 3: she was calling to check on Shannon. But this leads

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Speaker 3: me to believe if Alexis was such a lunatic, the

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Speaker 3: night before and so upset about something. This wasn't something

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Speaker 3: that we see later in the episode that was accidentally

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Speaker 1: No, there there are no accidents. And you know when

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Speaker 1: you do file there are people there. I remember when

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Speaker 1: I filed for separation from Tom. You know, there are

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Speaker 1: necessarily I know that Shannon was saying it was Alexis's

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Speaker 1: PR team. That's not necessarily true. You don't think so,

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Speaker 1: But then I don't know before Yeah, fucking know, because

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Speaker 1: that's what she does. I know.

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Speaker 3: But if you didn't think things were going to fully

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Speaker 3: blow up, if you thought it was going to go under.

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Speaker 1: The radar, nothing goes under the radar when you're on

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Speaker 1: these reality TV shows. That's something you need to understand.

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Speaker 1: And this was has been talked about ad nauseum to

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Speaker 1: borrow from doctor Debroux, which is one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: things to say, and uh, you know, it's not this

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Speaker 1: shit happens. You know, this should happens whenever you try

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Speaker 1: to file something. It's never it never goes under the radar.

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Speaker 3: Right, But if you wanted it to go under the radar.

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Speaker 3: Don't you just accept the money and sign the non

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Speaker 3: disparitridgement agreement.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Emily gave the best advice. If you

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Speaker 1: sign that agreement, and go on about your life and

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Speaker 1: live happily with Alexis and be done with it. But

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Speaker 1: that's not what these people want to do.

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Speaker 3: But I also want to know. And this I'm not

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Speaker 3: like trying to trap you into answering question. I legitimately

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Speaker 3: don't understand when they say, you know, when Alexis says

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Speaker 3: everything has been taken from John, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I did not understand that. What I don't know I

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Speaker 1: would have. I actually had the same question, what has

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Speaker 3: If you go on a reality show, nine times.

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Speaker 1: Out of ten your good name is in the fucking trash. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you don't have a.

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Speaker 3: Carlin Sun was like the American Ballet is gonna judge me? Like, then,

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Speaker 3: don't come on the fucking traw.

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Speaker 1: You knew that you signed up what you signed up for,

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Speaker 1: and you can kiss all of that good name shit. Goodbye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're you're exchanging it for the financial gain,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or you're just trading it for I'm on a

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Speaker 1: reality TV show, which doesn't seem or fame yeah, or fame?

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Speaker 1: Well is it same? Is this fame?

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Speaker 3: What is the other word for fame when it's.

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Speaker 1: I have I'm infamous infamous that I'm in, which is

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Speaker 1: this is just a lot.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's so different from me because I

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Speaker 1: I think there's like levels to fame now, it's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: I think that fame in itself is so different with

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Speaker 1: like you could be YouTube famous, you could be TikTok famous,

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Speaker 1: or you could be reality TV show famous, or you

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Speaker 1: could be movie star famous. No.

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Speaker 3: I mean today I was sitting there with one of

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Speaker 3: my assistants and we're like going through the schedule and

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Speaker 3: I go, oh my gosh, it's like groundhog Day and

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Speaker 3: she just what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Oh God?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, hold on, why, Like one, you've

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Speaker 3: like there's different.

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Speaker 1: There's different things that people pay attention and by age. Honey,

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Speaker 1: wait till you get my age and you see like

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Speaker 1: you know, you go, oh yeah, it's just it's frightening.

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Speaker 3: It's frightening.

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Speaker 1: It's frightening.

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Speaker 3: But at this point we see that Shannon is in crisis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel badly for her. Nobody. You can hear

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Speaker 1: her crying, and it's bad. And Shannon, if you're listening, like,

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Speaker 1: I promise you this gets better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And also I think I just to beat a

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Speaker 3: dead horse for a second. You know, when you're in

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Speaker 3: Dave Quinn, but my question is, did Shannon have a

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Speaker 3: heads up? Are you allowed as a press person to

438
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Speaker 3: give the person with the article coming out of heads up?

439
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: I was told that my shit was coming that way.

440
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: This is what happens in the law game, and to

441
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: anybody that's listening, it's simply just that you know you're

442
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: getting sued, and here it is. You're on a TV

443
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: show for many years, Shannon, and this is kind of

444
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: the way things play out. You know, chin up and

445
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: move forward. You can't stop these things, is really what

446
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting at. Yeah, you cannot stop it. But yeah,

447
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: I think the thing listen, whether it comes out in people,

448
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: whether it's our friend Dave Quinn, this is the shit

449
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: that you're going to deal with. And I think that

450
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: the Housewives universe is very involved in Well, there's a

451
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: no other lawsuit. I mean you look at all of

452
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: our legal quote problems, and you know it's kind of

453
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, guys, just resolve your ship and keep

454
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: on going. It'll get okay.

455
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 3: But it'll get.

456
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 1: Okay, get it'd be getting.

457
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,239
Speaker 3: Don't change be worried about it.

458
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: Don't you worry about it.

459
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 3: Now, don't even worried about it. We'll blame someone else

460
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 3: for it. But Alexis. I feel like we're not going

461
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 3: to see much more of her after What what makes

462
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 3: you say that? Because I don't think she's on the

463
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: cast trip. Well, we knew that, and she's not at

464
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: this dinner. No, so is our last time seeing Alexis

465
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: when she was called a wackadoodle and a friend.

466
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Speaker 1: Of Well, then you get her for the reunion where

467
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: she's really gonna come on out.

468
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 3: Well, and she's also been going for it. Did you

469
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: see that she came for us on the well, I

470
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Speaker 3: mean by us, I mean me.

471
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Speaker 1: Look at me, No, I did not. Everybody, like everybody

472
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: that knows me knows I'm in my own fucking universe.

473
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Speaker 3: Well, she came for me on our last.

474
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: Girls up, giving her even don't even bring.

475
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: Me on our twats post that I've met her in

476
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: real life, and blah blah blah, and this is this

477
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 3: is my thing to Alexis. Yes, in real life you

478
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 3: were lovely to me.

479
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: But we're also over here recapping a show in which

480
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: you don't look the best Alexis. So that's also what's

481
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: happening that I can be look I know for a

482
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: fact that I am lovely. I'm a fucking dream off

483
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: the show and sometimes on the show, I look like

484
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: a raging yeah, and that is you know, I am both.

485
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure she's lovely and she's not looking

486
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: the best this year. These things happen, and it's also

487
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: a lot of her making herself look this way. We

488
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: all have to take you know, you did, you know?

489
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: It is what it is. We've all had bad moments.

490
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: Just shake it off.

491
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: And regardless if you came on the show before you

492
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 3: started dating Johnny Jay or whatever.

493
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, it doesn't that still decided to.

494
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: Still continue on with it and make it a big

495
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 3: portion of what you're talking about.

496
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: But we're here now in the present moment commenting on

497
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: this behavior. Who she is as a person is not

498
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: what we're commenting on. We're commenting about the behavior and

499
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: the stories that we are seeing today, in this particular episode,

500
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: in this particular season. Now, what you did in the past, okay,

501
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: hey whatever, but we're talking about today and today it

502
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: looks bad.

503
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 3: Today's all. It ain't great.

504
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: No, it ain't great, and it could be better tomorrow,

505
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: we just don't know.

506
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then Katie is deciding to have Tarama Jen

507
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: and emly.

508
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: Bad idea bad idea, bad idea for you, great idea

509
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: for the show.

510
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: And their husband's over. Heather won't be there because she's

511
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: refusing to speak to Katie. I don't I don't care.

512
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 3: You don't care that she's refusing to speak to her.

513
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: Not really, she's got Terry right.

514
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 3: But also I don't know that Katie spoke once they

515
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 3: got there, so.

516
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: Well, she didn't have to the whole shit. Your friend

517
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: Tarmah blew up everybody at that place. And why didn't

518
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: they come through the front door?

519
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

520
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: That bothered me, and usually I'm not hip to these things,

521
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: like I don't care whether what kind of entrance, like

522
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you have on. But I

523
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: did notice that they were all coming through the side.

524
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: Maybe they have dogs. Well they do have dogs, because

525
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: we saw the dogs in the back.

526
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: Well, but anyway, whatever, somebody tell me why I loved

527
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: seeing Kim in the kitchen though, when Tarma was leaving.

528
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: Producer Kim, Oh my.

529
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: God, yes, I do know. I do know Kim.

530
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: If you're listening, Hey girl, Hey Kim, Yeah, I know.

531
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 3: I met her when I filmed that one thing for

532
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 3: Orange County.

533
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: We like him.

534
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: She's a good girl. But Gina's also not coming.

535
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: Why does Gina pronounce it meat?

536
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: Wool mean because she's from New Jersey?

537
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: Is she from Jersey?

538
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: She's from Jersey, okay, or she's from New York, one

539
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: of the two. But she's got that really like Wool's meat.

540
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: But I was expecting an Italian last name, but I

541
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 3: didn't get that. Well, it sounded more scanned in even

542
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: like Germanish Gershenheider. Yeah, that ain't like my first husband's

543
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 3: like that, ain't it. But that's what her husband's last name,

544
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: her ex husband that we met with his.

545
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I wonder what her maiden name is.

546
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

547
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: Do you know you Italian from Jersey? Are you Italian

548
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: American from Jersey? Italian American from I feel like.

549
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: Gina would be good on Jersey, Like.

550
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: Yes, well she didn't. Yeah, I mean she's very much.

551
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: She's got a dinner, but they and that's a compliment,

552
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: so don't Yeah, we're not listen. I was married to

553
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: a New Yorker the first.

554
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: Time Gina's at our place. But I also felt this scene.

555
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: You know, Matt and bred are engaged and they're having

556
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: a commitment ceremony. I don't care thou who protests too much? Though?

557
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 3: What do to me? I mean, she's saying how great

558
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: it is for her kids, and she wishes that she

559
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: could move for Like, the part that's hard for her

560
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: is that Matt's moving forward. Why she and Travis are

561
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: falling behind. I have to I have to just be

562
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: a little bit honest, just.

563
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: A little bit. Don't tell us how you really feel.

564
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: Tell me later when we're off. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell

565
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: you what, tell me how we really feel later on

566
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: when we cut their shit off.

567
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 3: I think there's some I do think Gena is a

568
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: little still in love with her ex. I did kind

569
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: of wonder because Travis isn't there filming with them.

570
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: Right, He's at his house. He's at his house, so

571
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: if his kids no, and but she did say hold on,

572
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: Gina did say that something about Travis's ex won't resolve,

573
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: so they can't go further. Yeah, they can't move forward?

574
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: Is that what I'm getting from what she? Yeah?

575
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: I mean I think that Travis allegedly has an ex

576
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: that's caused them a lot of problems, which then causes

577
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: friction between you know, you know, I mean, because I

578
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: mean I think it can be exhausting to be a

579
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: part of that, but I do think no, and not

580
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: to throw anyone under.

581
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: The bus, but like, but let me do it right now.

582
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: But I love to say a butt and then do it.

583
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: It was very hard for me and Edwin and Bella's

584
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: mom and her husband at the beginning. There were years

585
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: and years of us trying to figure it out. But

586
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 3: because there was so much love there and there.

587
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: Was something, you wanted it to work. I wanted it

588
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: to work. That's the thing is that look, and now

589
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: it is now we're all friends. But that was a

590
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: group effort of wanting it to work out and making

591
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: it work. These things are so difficult, and you're talking

592
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: about hurt feelings, like real hurt feelings, and it takes

593
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: time and everybody has to want to work it out.

594
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then I got a little awkward when what's

595
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: her name, Brett? When Brett was like, I'm thinking of

596
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: changing my name to Gershenheider or gersh or all of it,

597
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: just no, no thank you, thoughts and prayers. But then

598
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: every time I'm sorry, I'm today, I don't fucking know

599
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: and I don't care today. But also it made me

600
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: a little bit.

601
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: Sad. I don't know sad, she'll recommit. Look you've got,

602
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: in my opinion, here's the thing, and call me old school,

603
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: And that's fine because I'm fifty three and I've earned

604
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: the right to bitch. There should be one party, in

605
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: my opinion, which is the engagement party, and then let's

606
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: get married and have a great time. When you're talking

607
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: about commitment ceremonies, I feel like it's a setup for failure.

608
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: It's just that's what's on my hand.

609
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: Like I'm not really ready my foot in the pool.

610
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: And I've got one foot out like I'm straddling the fence.

611
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: It's just like we either are or we aren't. But

612
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: that's my personal opinion, and that's it.

613
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: Well, I have another personal opinion, and I don't know

614
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: how you feel about it. I really don't like when

615
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: people wear tennis elbow braces while filming.

616
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't know there off did it bother you?

617
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: Like?

618
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: I I went there?

619
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: Like what I was like, are you about to eat

620
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: so many meatballs that you need your tennis brace?

621
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: I saw that too, I I but I'm someone in

622
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: here here. I get a lot of shit for why

623
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: do you have on so much makeup? Why is your

624
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: hair done? Guys? To me, we're on a TV show.

625
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: This lives forever, so I don't want to be remembered

626
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: by and look as the show has progressed, have I

627
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: allowed myself to like really be seen stripped down with

628
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: like not allowed to makeup on or looking haggard? Yeah,

629
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: because I was in such a fucked up, bad place.

630
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: But it's a choice. I don't know. I agree. I mean,

631
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: you're selling a bit of lifestyle here, and so if

632
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: I unless I'm super tired, maybe she was tired. I

633
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: don't know.

634
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

635
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: I think you can agree with that.

636
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: I can agree. But then everyone arrives at Katie's.

637
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: This is so good, by the way, Ah, so good.

638
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: Eddie refuses to hug Ryan, and then why would Ryan

639
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: want to hug him? Anyway? But this entire I started

640
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: getting uncomfortable as these entrances start having.

641
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: I love it, though, you couldn't you, with your pure

642
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: experience and knowledge? Didn't you just know where this was going?

643
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: I freaking knew. But it started with the scene of

644
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: Ryan walking in and the skin tight jeans where we

645
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: could see his dinger.

646
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't look at that. How could you not it

647
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: was like you ever noticed remember what I said last

648
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: week that I don't really look at what people where

649
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: I feel their energy like I'm like, well, its tender foe.

650
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: Did you like his energy? No? I did not, okay, and.

651
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 1: Not because of anything predetermined. I was just looking at

652
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: somebody that was really working their set and a lot

653
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: of you. You know what I'm saying. He's working it, and

654
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: he's very He went in very clear about what he

655
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: needed to do, except when Matt asked him, by the way,

656
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: points for me for remembering your husband's name, what he did,

657
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: and he could give a brief answer.

658
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: Hold on, that answer was so long, even edited, I

659
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: like knotted off.

660
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: Well, it reeks of deception, whether you like it or not.

661
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: What do you do? I am a lawyer, I am

662
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: in television. I am a mechanic. He said he flipped houses,

663
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: he was in real estate. It was a whole long thing.

664
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: And then also, I mean, did he ask anything to

665
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: Matt Bottom What.

666
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: Does that do?

667
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: By the way, he does something in golf?

668
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: Oh? Is he a golfer? Dude? Hit me up. I

669
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: can hit a fucking ball like no other. By the way, way,

670
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: this one I hadn't picked up a club in over

671
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: a decade. And yes, I was a member of well

672
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: not I Tom was a member of Wilshire, bel Air

673
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: and Lakeside and then every other place in America, but

674
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Wilshire was my home course. I can hit a ball

675
00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: and you can attest.

676
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: No, she is really good and I am terrible.

677
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean after ten years I put a club in

678
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: my hand and even the pro was like, wow, yeah.

679
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: Now she nailed it, and she looked cute doing it.

680
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: And I tried to give you some tips.

681
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: It didn't help. That was our first bonding experience.

682
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: It was really what brought us together.

683
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: Tamer tells Emily that Ryan crossed the line like a

684
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: little bit.

685
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Oh so everybody's calling. So wait, so Ryan called Eddie

686
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: a clown and a soft baby bitch or was it

687
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: baby bitch or soft or something like that. Here's where,

688
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: just by the way, none of you are hard, yeah,

689
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: like I want to let you want Yeah, none of

690
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: you are not one of these men or not not

691
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: one of you. But I think you don't have to

692
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: call for help. Believe me.

693
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: I think where we're getting a little bit things are confusing,

694
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: because yes, there's a lot of discussion about what Ryan

695
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: said on a podcast, which isn't necessarily the worst things

696
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: or the best things, but it's what Ryan is saying

697
00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 3: in his confessionals. I think he's implied that.

698
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: Eddie.

699
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot of rumors about Eddie

700
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: being gay.

701
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that.

702
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think the way that he speaks about that,

703
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 3: he was trying to double down on that. He says

704
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 3: that Eddie doesn't have a job.

705
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: I just want to know what's wrong with being gay.

706
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he is, but what's wrong? I know

707
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: some gay men that will whoop your fucking ass.

708
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

709
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: Way, Well, you don't want to press any gay men

710
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: I know, because they will clean your fucking clock, dude,

711
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: And I don't care what you think you're doing.

712
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: But that's it's one thing for a woman to go

713
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 3: back and pass history and look up shit.

714
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: And so you're saying he's a bitch, Yeah, I am

715
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 1: saying he's a fucking bitch. But like, I'm not trolling

716
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: him right now.

717
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's troll him because that don't worry. Then he'll

718
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 3: tag us from his dick picks account because he has

719
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: a Dick's Picks account.

720
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: Does he have a good Dick.

721
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: No, it's just that he.

722
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 4: Has a he sells a hat that says Dick picks.

723
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: The next thing is he also says that Eddie doesn't

724
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: have a job. And I think that when it takes

725
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: you forty seven minutes, but.

726
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: You cooperated with the government, dude.

727
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: And you can't explain what you do, And like here

728
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 3: do I think that Eddie was one hundred percent amazing

729
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 3: in this episode.

730
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted any part of it. I

731
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: think he felt bad for Eddie from top to bottom

732
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: because he seems and this is just my take, he

733
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: seems like a nice guy. He didn't want to get

734
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: involved in any of it, and he knew where it

735
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: was going. And you saw that from everything from his

736
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: voice to his body language, the words he used. He

737
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: knew it was going to go off the head.

738
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's also like you don't need to shit

739
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: on somebody's job. Like, yes, he closed down cut Fitness,

740
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: it was successful for many years. He actually trairs he

741
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: trained your you know girlfriend from many many years.

742
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: And by the way, it seems like they like each other,

743
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: like they have a genuine friendship cominity.

744
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: And also I mean it's like Venus CBD. Does well.

745
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: Well, they also have which, by the way, send me

746
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: some more products.

747
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: Go, I have tons right here? Really okay, I'll give

748
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: you some. But also like he has a nutrition company,

749
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: like Eddie is a hustler. So I don't that part

750
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: I don't like.

751
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: Do.

752
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: I think that there's ways that he could have maybe

753
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: handled the entrance slightly different. But I know if I

754
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: don't want to do something and I'm being taken in somewhere,

755
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: I'm probably an asshole too.

756
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: You are, but just from no asked experience, you are.

757
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: But I get it.

758
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: But Ryan's saying Eddie is a clown baby bitch and

759
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: not a dude. I feel like that's Ryan saying was

760
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: like a dig and an insinuation.

761
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I just want to say this so bad. But

762
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: were you a clown baby bitch when you cooperated? Probably

763
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: put you made your best friend like plead guilty or

764
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: what are you? Yeah, dude, I'm so feisty.

765
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: Today we continue on Tamra spills her Uh Martini, I

766
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: mean I saw that, but I I want to know

767
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 3: how long have they been there at this point?

768
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Look, here's the thing. It doesn't matter because the audience

769
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: only sees what they see you and I both know

770
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: how long these things go. They don't see it, so

771
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It only matters to us. The point

772
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: that you're about to make is not going to work.

773
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: All they know is that Tamra appears to have been

774
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: overserved and then gets into it with him, and Eddie's

775
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: you know, saying to Matt, don't give her anymore, which

776
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: I get, I understand because he knows how these things go.

777
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: Tamra's having a cocktail, Emily's having a few, she had three.

778
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: You could tell that.

779
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something as somebody who has

780
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: drank too much and embarrassed themselves and said things that

781
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: were horrible and fought and did a lot of things

782
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: that were not great in the moment. But it's where

783
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: I was. These things happen on these shows. Camera is

784
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: a long term She's been on TV much longer than

785
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: I have. She knows what she's doing, and she also

786
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: pulled it out like that. I'm not making excuses for

787
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: this behavior. I'm not condoning this behavior, but it is

788
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: what it fucking is. Yeah, and we've all been in

789
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: that situation.

790
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: We've all been in that situation.

791
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: My favorite Dewy Camille you're a stupid yeah. I mean,

792
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: which could be like with the head right, I mean,

793
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: it could be. I mean, you know, we've all done

794
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: shit that doesn't make sense.

795
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: It doesn't whatever. You're enter pressure cooker, you're drinking for

796
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: a long time. Food is provided, but most of the

797
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: time you're not necessarily eating.

798
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: Bottom line is, I made the choice to drink, and

799
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: I also made the choice to say the words that

800
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: came out of my mouth. I'm just gonna speak for myself.

801
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: And so when I look at these things and I

802
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: look at other scenes like this, everyone here. As an adult,

803
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: you have the choice to pick up the glass or not.

804
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: When you do shit like this happens.

805
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: And when you're not on TV and too much, you

806
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: send a text to your friends the next day and

807
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: you're like, hey, guys, sorrow's hot mess. Express that text,

808
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: which I call I mean, it depends on how bad

809
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 3: I was. No, if I.

810
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: Will call and be like I'm so sorry, I was

811
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: so out of line, I truly apologize. And I've had

812
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: to do that because I you know, I've been awful.

813
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: I mean I had to walk up to you on

814
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: camera and like honestly hold your hand and be like, oh,

815
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 3: my god, last night I was so terrible. I don't

816
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: even know. No one will tell me what.

817
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm so bad for you. And I saw your face

818
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: twitching and what I said, Okay, it's okay because it's

819
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: not I knew that that's not you, that's you under

820
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: the influence of stuff. And that's also why we became close. Teddy.

821
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, like there's those moments where you it's okay to

822
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 3: show weakness, it's okay to have.

823
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: This, it's not is it weakness or is it just

824
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: fucking humanity? Yeah, these are the things that happen to people.

825
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: You're not weak, it's just this is what goes on.

826
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: But then tameras Alexis was acting crazy the other night,

827
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: Emily says that she and Heather could have had a

828
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: heart to heart if Alexis wasn't there. Emily gets emotional,

829
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: explaining how it wasn't about the size twelve, it was

830
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: because Heather didn't understand where she was coming from. And

831
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 3: then Tamor thinks Shannon should have just paid John. Emily says,

832
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 3: the problem is that John wouldn't sign the non disparagement clause.

833
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?

834
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: Well, I think more than anything, I think Emily just

835
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 3: wants to be heard, but I think it's very hard.

836
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: And I can say this from knowing, from being somebody

837
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: who I you know, my first wedding dress was a

838
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: size eighteen and I remember them telling me that and

839
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: the number like honestly shook me. Course that if you've

840
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: never been in that situation, you don't know how how

841
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: much it hurt, how much it hurts, and how much

842
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: those little comments may affect you, And and I think

843
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: you know, everybody else on OC is in a different situation,

844
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: So I I get it. Like some people are saying, well,

845
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: you know that it wasn't this, It wasn't intentional. I

846
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: don't think it was intentional.

847
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it was intentional. But you also when

848
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: you see Emily say I've worked so hard, you know

849
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: how much weight I've lost. You know that I've been

850
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: in the gym and that commitment really does show. But

851
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: it it's it's deep seated, and I feel bad. I

852
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: feel badly, and.

853
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: It's gonna and you know what it sticks with you

854
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: for it never goes away, goes away. And then Tamar

855
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: asked Ryan why he shit talked her as a mom

856
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: and Eddie as a businessman. Ryan says he's validated and

857
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: what he said based on how they treated him. He

858
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: says he was a friend to Eddie until he talks

859
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: shit about him. Tamar denies this. Ryan says that Eddie

860
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: said that one of Ryan's friends told Eddie to watch

861
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: out for him because he goes after married women. Eddie

862
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: says that's exactly what happened. Tamra says everyone knows Ryan

863
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: likes to f married women, including Jen. Eddie tells Ryan

864
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: he's not a threat to him. Okay, does it matter

865
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: that last season Tamra was telling Jen Ryan wasn't a

866
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 3: good guy. Do we think this matters at this point?

867
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: No, because I think she was kind of right, whether

868
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: it was about married women or the legal trouble. Well

869
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: whatever the legal situation that he's involved in, it seems

870
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: to track.

871
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 3: But do you think that then gives I mean, what

872
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 3: Ryan's saying is, you know, it gives him the right

873
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: to go on a podcast.

874
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: You can you can't say whatever you want. I've had horrible,

875
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: untrue things said about me for years that damaged not

876
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: only myself like mentally, emotionally, but also damaged my business.

877
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: That really put me in a place you can do that.

878
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: I mean, that is true, but you want to go

879
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: around and see everybody for libel, which you know you'll lose.

880
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: But also I think there is something to be said

881
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: about clickbait, Like you will get clickbait from this podcast.

882
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: Somebody will put either mir or you saying something about someone,

883
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: and they're going to put a very small minute thing.

884
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: So unless you listen to the.

885
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: Entire thing, there's no context.

886
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no context. So I do think when they

887
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: are doing the flashbacks of what Ryan's saying on the podcast,

888
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't sound that bad.

889
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It really doesn't.

890
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't. And he you know, but what he's saying

891
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 3: in his confessional, which everyone is there to see, it's

892
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 3: not a little snippet of a podcast. He's going for it.

893
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 3: He's going for the jugular and he's implying that their

894
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: relationship is flawed.

895
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: Which is interesting because here's the thing. He's got his

896
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: own heat, if you will, like with this whole the

897
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: betting yeah thing, it's interesting that he chose to do

898
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: that in the midst of that. Well, I think you

899
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: don't have to do that, Ryan, you know, you're not

900
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: getting paid to do it. You can just be quiet

901
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: or not do it or whatever. It's interesting that he

902
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: chose that route.

903
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: So Jen posted today she gives credit to the podcast

904
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: that she's on, which it's let me be honest, it's

905
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: never that positive for anybody. It's not necessarily a podcast

906
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: that you go on to bring happiness and lightness. But

907
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 3: she said, can we please link the podcast from last year.

908
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: This woman for an entire year drug my man's name

909
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: through the mud. Remember before cameras went up, she never

910
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: had one problem with Ryan hashtag needed a storyline. She

911
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: has over a million followers and her own podcast and

912
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: trash Ryan make this one.

913
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm currently on Yah.

914
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 3: One is ish to one, which they could have mentioned

915
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: in the episode.

916
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: It's called to teas in a pod, Two teas in

917
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: a pod, Teddy Millencamp and camera judge. But I'm filling in.

918
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. He went on we want number one again. He

919
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 3: wants to keep that in there. He went on one

920
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: podcast and spoke a truth. How ironic that she trash

921
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: talks people on the regular and if one person says

922
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: anything back, it's crocodile tears or drunk slurring her words.

923
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: Eddie tried to stop her several times and after she

924
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: stumbled out of Katie's home yelling false statements. The guys

925
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 3: had a very civilized conversation. We just had to take

926
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: the trash out so that this could happen.

927
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't like when people call people tra trash. The

928
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: trash is where I lost she lost me?

929
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, anything else, like, I get.

930
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: I get it, prept that. No, well, I get it,

931
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: you're upset. I get that when you start calling names.

932
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: We had to take the trash out.

933
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: But then I kind of think, like, did Ryan write this?

934
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: It doesn't really seem like something Jen would say or do,

935
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: And that's what gives me the.

936
00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: Do you think? So, yeah, is that a possibility? Even yes? Oh,

937
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: like it's like you have to do it.

938
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: Here's d a post like we're on Jeff Lewis, but

939
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 3: he wasn't on Jeff Lewis. Jen was on Jeff Lewis.

940
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: He just took a picture of all you dudes trying

941
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: to get in on the action. That was like PK

942
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: my first, like darts and PK's first. Ye're like, yo,

943
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: let these chicks fight their own fucking battles. It's about

944
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: it's a show about women. You guys are for once

945
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: in your life fucking not necessary. Hello, and so let

946
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: these chicks work it out. Let them fight their battles.

947
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: You don't need to come in, and you don't. She

948
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: doesn't need help, she doesn't. You know, your wives, your

949
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: girlfriends can speak for themselves. They are grown women. They're

950
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: on this show for a reason. Clearly producers Network think

951
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: that they are bright enough or dumb enough to be

952
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: on the show.

953
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: But Ryan says he never Bashedhamras a mom, but he

954
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: reposted something telling her to be concerned about her own.

955
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Ryan, Yeah, I saw that that was unnecessary. You're a

956
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: grown man. It's unnecessary. But who am I like? Yeah,

957
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm yelling at kids.

958
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: Too, So what I mean you have yelled at kids?

959
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: But I also can say, you.

960
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: Know, I also did. I also did a backflip in

961
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: the parking lot, which yeah, I mean, don't talk about

962
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: bad but.

963
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: But I think also, I mean, we would never post

964
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: a photo of your son, no, And I appreciate that,

965
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: and I don't think you would either. I think in

966
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: that moment you thought you were being In that moment,

967
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: I was just part of me was blacked out and

968
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: part of me was just being like, ohway.

969
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: But it didn't read well, and that's not the point,

970
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: you know, But.

971
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 3: The point is to pull up an old photo, which

972
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 3: I think that Ryan did intentionally to try to create

973
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: discussion over one of Tama's children.

974
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: Like you know, that's going to get at somebody, of

975
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: course it does.

976
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to back to even Hong Kong,

977
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: like I Lean didn't even fully mention your son. Oh,

978
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: I had a breakdown, and you had a breakdown, Like

979
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: this is what happens. You bring up somebody's kids and

980
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: if somebody were to bring up mine.

981
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what guys, This is what moms do.

982
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: You know, Like it just you touch that one soft

983
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: spot and that's what happens. Yeah.

984
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: But then Jen screams at Eddie, questioning why he's allowing this.

985
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: Tarmer says it's because.

986
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: She's not listen. Number one, Eddie is not fucking Tamra's keeper.

987
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. But also then Tarmer says it's because her husband

988
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: is in a little bit. Tamar asks Ryan how the

989
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: FBI is going for him. Eddie tells Tarmar to stop.

990
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 3: Tarmer says Ryan was investigated by the FBI for illegal

991
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 3: gambling and Jen knows all about it. This is where

992
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: Jen pipes up FBI and then.

993
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: So that that leads me to believe what she doesn't

994
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: know or she does. I just don't know. I don't

995
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: know the backstory. I'm asking seriously, does she know or

996
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: does she not know? Is this the first time? Please

997
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: tell me this isn't the first time you heard that.

998
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: On Yeah, if it is, we have other issues. But

999
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: then and Ryan and his confessional, he says, regardless of

1000
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: what little baby clip we saw from that podcas cast

1001
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: or what was said in the podcast, I also know

1002
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: that whenever I get somebody else's opinion on something, like

1003
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: she said, oh I heard from my assistant what was

1004
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: said in the podcast.

1005
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: I need to see it for myself.

1006
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: I have to hear the whole thing from myself.

1007
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people too, because the way you

1008
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: may take it and the way I may read it

1009
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: two different things.

1010
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: And I may take it more personally than or vice versa.

1011
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: But then Tamra, Ryan says, Tamara takes anybody who's happy,

1012
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: tries to railroad them because she is miserable. Her marriage

1013
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: is a sham. Eddie is soft. He's unemployed when others

1014
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: are doing well and real love is being shown she

1015
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: can't handle it because it's everything. She doesn't have this

1016
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: a mom. Man, this is where it's too.

1017
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: I could come back, and I could come back with

1018
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: an absolute fucking list right now of things that I

1019
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: could say, you know, and it doesn't matter because it's

1020
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: not you know whatever, But don't do that, dude, it's

1021
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: you guys aren't on the show.

1022
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: But also like, look, can Tamor be abrasive? And can

1023
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 3: her delivery be off? And it was especially when when

1024
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 3: drinking same as mine? But who else is gonna call

1025
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 3: it the FBI stuff? And that's already happening.

1026
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: And this was whether you guys like it or not.

1027
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: And when I say Tamra Judge is good television, I

1028
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: didn't say she was right. I just said that she moved.

1029
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: She moved the story and it is coming out and

1030
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: it ends up coming out, and that's what you all

1031
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: tune in for, and that's what you all are, you know,

1032
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: entertained by, is the fact that she said it. She's

1033
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, and there's a lot, you know, whether you

1034
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: like it or not, you're still responding to that.

1035
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think, yeah, yes, there are moments where

1036
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 3: like as Tamra's friend, where I'm like, fuck her walking.

1037
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: Out, Well, have the stumble bumble, it's all.

1038
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: And I felt the same way when I watched You.

1039
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: I had to come to the house and was like,

1040
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: what the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, you have

1041
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: to stop. So, look, we don't have the best time

1042
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: on here. This is part of Yeah, it.

1043
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: Can be the best of times, but it can also

1044
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: be the worst of time.

1045
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: More likely than not, you're going to have a bit

1046
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: of trouble.

1047
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 3: And if you think, if you're somebody that's watching these

1048
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 3: shows and you think that sometimes you don't need a

1049
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: touch of liquid courage.

1050
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: To fucking blow it out, and also like go up,

1051
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: bring up uncomfortable things. It's necessarily you guys are enjoying

1052
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: and watching things that necessarily would not happen in a

1053
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: civilized group conversation.

1054
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the same way that in real life.

1055
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever called somebody a villain, but

1056
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: on the show, when you're watching the show, she's a villain.

1057
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: She's that Like how often have you been like, oh,

1058
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: I'm so mad at Teddy, She's a villain?

1059
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: Never? Yeah, you just don't ted what are you doing?

1060
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Teddy, what the fuck?

1061
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: But you're also watching a modern stew day soap opera.

1062
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: It's such a weird thing because it's a hybrid. It's

1063
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: like a soap opera but based on your real life.

1064
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: So you're watching people in an unnatural circumstance, i e. Cameras,

1065
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: shit like that, and then you're basing it on what's

1066
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: really happening in their lives. Like Ryan cooperating with the

1067
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: FBI is a fact. Camera being overserved at this party

1068
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: is a fact. You know Emily how she feels about you. Know.

1069
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: So there's all of these things that are true, and

1070
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: then you're living under this like it's very strange. And

1071
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: the only people I think who really understand are the

1072
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: women that have been there, not producers, not viewers, not

1073
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: friends of When you've been a cast member and the

1074
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: longer you've been a cast member, we can only talk

1075
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: to each other about certain things. It doesn't matter what

1076
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: the audience sees, it doesn't matter how they feel. You

1077
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: and I both know things and can pick up on

1078
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: things that no one else can.

1079
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, and.

1080
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm not using anybody's behavior because you have to come

1081
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: forth and own your own behavior and say, yeah, I

1082
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: was bad. I was drunk, I did the wrong thing.

1083
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: This was not my best moment.

1084
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: And also there are moments where every single one of

1085
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: us that have been on these shows are hypocrites.

1086
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, beyond beyond.

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Speaker 3: But I also want to think, for you guys listening

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Speaker 3: to this podcast right now, how often are you in

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Speaker 3: a group text with your friends and you say something

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Speaker 3: shitty about somebody else that you know?

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Speaker 1: Not only that, like what we were talking about, well

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Speaker 1: about Heather and Terry early in the show, is like

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Speaker 1: that happens, and so does being a hypocrite in life

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Speaker 1: and being judgy and not looking your best. All of

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Speaker 1: these things happen.

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Speaker 3: And then also you have wonderful moments. We can be

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Speaker 3: a great parent, or you're having a wonderful time, or

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Speaker 3: you have this great trip, or this may happen. This

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Speaker 3: is fucking life. And if you're wanting to watch a show,

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Speaker 3: it's good, the bad, and the ugly. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's what oc is giving us.

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Speaker 1: I kind of I really enjoyed doing this with you.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we won't be here next week, but

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Speaker 3: we will. Don't worry. We will recap both episodes the

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Speaker 3: following week and we're both gonna be on little.

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Speaker 1: Trips, So we're going on trips. Babes, Bye bye, guys.