WEBVTT - Tea from Paris: Day Seven 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.680 On this August second, Team USA has increased its lead 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:07.960 in the overall Olympic medal count. 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.080 That's right, the United States has now won thirty seven 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:14.160 medals so far and racking up the gold. That total 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.360 now at nine. Home team France is next with twenty 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.120 seven medals, followed by China with twenty four. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:22.800 And with that, welcome to this Tea from Pari edition 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.599 of Amy and TJ. Again not married to that name 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.040 Tea from Pari, but folks, some own biles put a 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.720 new gold medal and a new diamond necklace around her 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:36.920 neck yesterday and both made clear she is the greatest 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:37.800 of all time. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.640 That she is. Plus, speaking of women making history, Katie 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:46.559 Ledecki has won her thirteenth Olympic medal, officially making her 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.519 the most decorated American woman in Olympic history, earning a 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.680 silver medal in the four x two hundred meter freestyle relay. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.520 And guess what, She's not done yet. She is the 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.440 heavy favorite to win another gold this weekend. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.080 And a major Olympic controversy to tell you about after 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:06.800 a female boxer quit her match in just forty six seconds, 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:11.920 with some claiming that she was fighting a he as 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.640 a heated and now ugly gender debate has erupted with 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:19.320 the likes of Elon Musk and JK Rowling chiming in we'll. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.319 Explain and concern on the court as the state of 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:26.640 Novak djokovic surgically repaired rtney is in question after he 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.880 beat a twenty four time Grand Slam champion. Now the 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.160 question today is how will he compete as he takes 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.560 on Lorenzo Mussetti of Italy in the semifinals. Djokovic is 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.400 making his fourth attempt for his first Olympic gold medal. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.559 And our eyes are watching live. Don't know what most 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.959 people are doing. Have you talked to friends and whatnot? 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:47.320 Do you know if a lot of people are watching 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.000 live or most people are waiting for primetime? 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:50.840 I think it's a little mixture of both, and it 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.800 might depend on what you do for a living man. 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.640 What time you have to get up? Yeah, that makes 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.680 very good sense. Not everybody is even if you can. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.480 Even if you have the time, I'm to get up 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:01.920 a three or four, most people just don't have it 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:02.520 in them to do so. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.400 I think you're an anomaly, DJ, But. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:06.800 You know what you're missing some good stuff. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:08.760 I know I come in every morning, I'm like, oh 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:09.720 I miss that? What? 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.200 Yes, you missed great table tennis in this morning. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.520 Table tennis, I feel like, is on all day, which 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.799 I appreciate because we had watched it in the afternoon. 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:20.920 I've certainly missed some of it in the morning, but 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.040 it never disappoints. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.040 Coming down to the men's and women's quarterfinals and semi finals, 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.400 which I'm watching, I'm all into it and that's wonderful. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.520 But we got a lot of track that was going 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:33.280 on this morning. Of course, all eyes on she Carrie, 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.160 who is running. She was the current world champion one 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:40.320 hundred meters heats starting today. We're not giving anything away 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.200 here by telling you she did okay in her heat. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.160 It's been very fun to watch. We're very fun to watch. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:47.919 Not giving anything away, but that's going to be going 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.120 on during the day. And she is just adorable. We 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.480 already loved her and her talent, but just to see 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.680 she's just this little bitty thing with this she is 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.800 powerful and yes she takes you see her in an interview, 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.920 she's the sweetest thing ever. Man. That gun goes off 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.400 and she hits it and it's just a pleasure to watch. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.120 He's flying and I have to tell you this one 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:11.880 of ropes I've I was just reading about a commercial 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.160 and I had tears of my eyes. Okay, I do. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.000 I want to give Nike and I want to get 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.280 Dick Sporting Goods a shout out here. We've spend so 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.040 much time talking about how the can't wait to see 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.320 the Super Bowl commercials. These Olympic commercials are blowing all 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.960 those out of the water and they're just such touching 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.120 and inspirational and moving. And the one on the Dick 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.720 Sporting Goods, it was the one about, uh, here's to 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.560 the little moments that happen every day like that, but 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.760 just showing these clips, these home videos, including one of us, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.200 like this little girl getting the news that she made 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.360 the team and she starts crying. This little kid on 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.160 his own, like Barry Kawak, he's kicking the ball into 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:51.000 the net and. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:51.640 He makes the goal. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:56.120 He makes it. They are just so stirring. And then Nike, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:00.200 good lord, having Willem Dafoe winning aim for everybody my 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:00.760 bad man. 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:06.880 Oh, it's NonStop entertainment, whether it's the sports or it's 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.120 the commercial. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.800 Niche you hats off to you. But yesterday we planned 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.240 our whole day around just like we did for the 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.760 men's all around. The way, I'm not overstating this. This 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.760 is the most important event of the Olympics. I say 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:20.839 most important, not to an Olympian who maybe is in 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.040 track and field. What I'm saying for all of us 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.480 watching is this not the marquee event. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.520 For me, it is Gymnastics has been and probably always 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.960 will be. We love watching a lot of the sports, 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.000 but this one is for me the most fun. And 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.240 so yeah, we brought all of our girls circling around 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.720 the TV. We prepared our lunch, and you know what 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.240 I actually thought it was going to be. I mean 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.360 a shoe in and maybe even I don't want to 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.800 say boring, but just you already knew what the ending 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.880 was going to be. But I have to say it 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:53.480 was so much closer and so much more fun than 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.560 I ever thought it would be. It blew away all 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:57.400 of my expectations. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:01.080 So yeah, even before yesterday knew some own Biles was 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.760 already the most decorated American gymnast in history. She'd already 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.960 won an Olympic All around gometal, and she was already 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:10.279 widely considered the greatest gymnast ever. She had nothing more 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.160 to prove to us, and yes, she proved something else 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:17.320 to us yesterday. She proved that she can handle adversity 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.520 on the biggest stage. These were her words afterwards. I've 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:24.719 never had an athlete that close. Before I was getting uncomfortable. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.680 You could see it on her face. You could see 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.359 it on her face. I know she was probably just 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.359 concentrating and getting in the zone, but she actually almost 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:36.000 looked like she was angry, like but that whatever was 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.039 going on. She said she was praying to the gods. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.359 I believe because people asked her about the look on 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.400 her face right before. But she was, of course talking. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.880 About Rebecca Andronji right. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.120 Yes, oh, and I have been in awe of her 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.279 from the beginning. She is a dazzling gymnast from Brazil. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.400 She's amazing at what she does her floor routine. If 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.159 you haven't seen it, my god, it's just full of 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:04.560 just spirit and unbelievable expertise. So Simone was anticipating her 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.080 that she might be a problem even before they competed, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.160 and turned out it was true. But Simone wowed us 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.440 all with her vault. It's the most difficult vault in 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:18.840 the world. It is a dangerous vault. It's a double 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.599 pike that she did not perform in the team event, 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.599 but she nailed it in her individual event and that 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:29.200 put her ahead. But then she made a rare but 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.240 significant mistake on the uneven bars. 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.359 Yeah, even if you're not don't have the trained eye 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.159 for gymnastics, you saw this mistake happen. You weren't necessarily 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.080 sure what happened. But she went down to the lower 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.760 bar on the uneven bars, and please correct me if 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.160 I get this wrong, but she at some point it 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.520 looked like she almost stopped rotating and she had to 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.039 bend her legs a little bend at her knees to 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:52.760 keep from actually scraping on the. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.080 Fight because if you touch the floor, it's a massive deduction. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.080 So she had to pull up her knees, which was 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.000 not exactly, you know, elegant, and that definitely caught any 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:01.800 one's eye. And then she had she did to take 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.640 an extra swing around the lower bar to regain her 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.400 momentum to continue her routine, which she did, which is 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:08.480 an incredible thing to do. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.680 Yeah, and so she made it through, and she talks 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.880 about the uneven bars all the time, right, she's. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.200 Not her favorite there the devil, she hates it. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.600 She hates them, but she ends up behind on points 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.600 midway through they all around what is happening? 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.280 She had to go to beam next, which is so 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.040 nerve racket. So to know you're behind and you've already 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:27.880 kind of maybe messed with your head a little because 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:29.720 you did something you didn't think you were going to do, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.239 which cost you points. So but she nailed her beam, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:33.560 and then that. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.280 Just me right, I hate I'm not the only one 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.080 that hates I hate watching beam. 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.840 Well also hates watching penalty kicks, which yeah, I hate that, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:42.800 and so I like both of those for the drama. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.400 Okay, what about trampoline. We've been watching this so fun, 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:47.720 but now I'm getting nervous watching that. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:52.920 Trampoline is so fun anyway, Yes, So back to simone fials. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.080 She was the last athlete to go on the last 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.880 event and it was a vault could be her best event, 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.800 but floors right up there with her too. She needed 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.360 a thirteen point eight six seven for the gold and 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:06.120 what did she get? 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.600 A fifteen point oh six six end of the day. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.840 This wasn't difficult and she did her first pass on 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.200 the floor exercise. When she landed, there was a smile 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.520 on her face and we all knew this is over, 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:17.640 and she knew it was over. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.400 Oh yeah, she had it was funny, she had this 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:24.320 amazing like just tuded like, yeah, I just did that, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:25.520 and watched me do some more. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.320 She knew it. Everybody knew it was over at that point. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:32.240 So congratulations to her that you keep hearing about her history. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.000 So she added some yesterday with this. She's the third 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.839 woman to win two all around gold medals. She's the 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.840 only one to do it though eight years apart, and 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.040 I believe the other two did it was back I 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.360 think goes back in the sixties. If I haven't read 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.200 way before, I was long ago. But she's twenty seven. 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.480 She's the oldest woman to do this since nineteen fifty two. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.679 That other athlete was thirty years old. And of course 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:00.160 she has more medals than any American gymnast man or 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.679 a woman. Now she sits at nine. Can you remind 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.360 me when she has left? She still has some more 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.000 metals she can get in the individual. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:12.040 She's competing on floor beam and vaults. Okay, so not 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.480 surprisingly she's not competing on the uneven bars, which I'm 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.880 sure she's very happy about. Yeah, so she is three 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.439 more metals she could pick up. So that's incredible. And 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.120 to celebrate her win, because she clearly is the goat, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.200 she got a necklace that says just that, with five 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.120 hundred and forty six diamonds. I love what she said. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.600 She said, some people love the fact that I put 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.400 the goat around my neck, and some people hate it. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.240 And I like the fact that it's like she likes it. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.120 It's polarizing. Yeah, somebody's talking about it. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.280 She likes. She's like, I don't mind the people who hate. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.000 I don't mind the people who love. But at least 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:44.720 people are saying so. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.440 I'm mad about Well, who's mad exactly? 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.680 Well, I think some people think it's maybe arrogant. What 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.120 I'm not one of those people. I mean, you should 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:55.520 celebrate that, like. 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:59.080 The great joy all time. And it's a cool little 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:00.920 When I first heard it it, I thought it was 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.880 a like it was written out goat. No, it's a 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.200 literal little goat with all these diamonds on it, shout out. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.840 I mean, give them credit. Janet Heller Fine Jewelry in 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.760 Southern California they're the ones that went together for and 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.000 they made sure they put out of them on social media, 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.079 making sure y'all all knew yep, we made that, we 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:17.400 did it. 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.920 If you'd like one too, or another animal, maybe encrusted 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.640 in diamonds, just let us know we've got you. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.440 We have to mention Sunny Lee though, who was I mean? 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.120 I watched her during the last Olympics and then a 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:29.920 lot of people fell in love with her. I don't 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.839 know why. She's just a joy. She just a little 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.520 joy to watch. I've been really really having a good time. 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:37.400 I was so happy she You know that you're the 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.520 defending gold medalist now Simone's back, and she was the 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.240 defending gold medalist because Simone dropped out. I think most 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:48.000 people would argue, but she at one point didn't look 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.160 like she might. She looked like she might not medal 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.840 at all, which was you could see it on her face. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.160 But man, did she nail the floor. Oh she nailed 0:10:56.160 --> 0:11:00.200 the floor. And then she secured her spot and we 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:01.760 didn't know if it was gonna be silver or bronze, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:02.920 but it did end up being bronze. 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.520 Oh yeah, so that was cool. When they finally came 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.600 out and said she is guaranteed a bronze even though 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.600 still a couple more performers. That was great. So this 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.120 is a big deal. She's the first woman to win 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.280 all around medals and back to back Olympics. Remember she 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.880 got the gold last Olympics and now bronze in the 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.920 all all around. But still that's back to back Olympics 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.640 with a medal in all around. Now do you come 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.680 in each She did it in seventy six eighty the 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.760 only two women to do anything like that. 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.760 That's a pretty cool person to be linked with or 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:27.320 compared to. 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.560 So we got to give some perspective here. So soon 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:33.880 he won the all around gold by point one three five. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:35.360 What is that? 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.560 Just over a tenth of a point tenth of a point, 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.000 barely a tenth of a point. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:44.160 Simon won by about one point two points, yes, today, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:48.280 so that's a much bigger margin of victory. But this 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.880 is one of the closest margins of victory that Simona 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.199 has had to deal with in winning some of her 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.520 world titles and her Olympic title. She won the gold 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.240 in twenty sixteen by two points. So a win is 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.160 a win. But it was cool to see. Look We're 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.880 so impressed by her physically and what she does, but 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.319 to see her have to dig in make some adjustments, 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.520 that was a mistake made and she had to show 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.600 her grit in her heart. She did. She was something 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:13.480 else yesterday. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.400 And I'm excited that we get to keep on watching 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.280 her for the next several days or through the weekend. 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.240 And the young lady you were pointing out and again 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.600 her floor routine is just one with energy and has 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:28.080 I think she uses Beyonce's music, Rebecca Andronji Androgi of Brazil. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.640 But you got to give this young lady some a 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.840 shout out to her. She got silver yesterday. In twenty 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:39.600 twenty one, she got silver behind Soon Ay. And this 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.280 is a young lady though, who had three ACL tears 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.200 yeah twenty fifteen, between twenty fifteen and twenty eighteen, so 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.560 she's had to keep fighting her way back. And see 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.800 her yesterday with just a joy in her face performing 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:52.480 that was another cool Olympic moment. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.360 It was a joy all around to watch those gymnasts 0:12:55.400 --> 0:13:08.280 do what they do and it was just incredible. Now ah, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:13.400 not so joyful and really just I think it's it's 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.520 just sad and confusing and disturbing all at once. Olympic 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:22.000 boxing is fighting about gender, and it all came to 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:26.040 a head in the ring when Italy's Angela Karini shocked 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.880 the audience when she abruptly ended her fight just forty 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:33.720 six seconds into her match against Algeria's Iman Khalif. Khalif 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.560 threw a few opening punches. Karine says she felt such 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.200 a severe pain in her nose she couldn't finish the match. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.640 She didn't shake Khalif's hand after the referee raised it, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.440 and instead she began to cry in the ring and 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.040 fell to her knees. Okay, so that is dramatic in 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.200 and of itself. But here's the problem. Here's the controversy. 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:56.199 The eligibility of Khalif and another Olympic boxer we should mentioned, 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:01.080 Taiwan's Lynn Uting have been questioned by critics. Both have 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.120 identified as women since birth, Both have competed and lost 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.600 to women in international boxing events, including previous Olympics, but 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:14.400 both were disqualified from last year's Women's World Championships after 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:19.200 failing an unspecified gender eligibility test. This is where it 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.000 gets a little confusing. That test claimed there were elevated 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:26.640 levels of testosterone and their systems. But the group that 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:32.560 disqualified them, called the International Boxing Association or IBA, lost 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:37.240 its Olympic status because the IOC, the International Olympic Committee, 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.080 says there are governance problems, there's a lack of financial transparency, 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:45.120 there are perceived instances of corruption in judging and refereeing, 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:49.840 and this test is unspecified. There's so many questions about it. 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.960 So this bottom line is that there are two boxers here, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.480 two women, who were disqualified from an event that happened 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:01.360 last year. The group that disqualified them has been disqualified 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.520 for participating in the Olympics by the IOC. So this 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:05.960 is a mess. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.960 Yeah, And so the IOC has defended both of those 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.720 boxers right to compete. They said that it made its 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.280 decisions based on gender rules applied at the Rio Games. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.520 Now there have been other governing associations of different sports 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:23.200 that have amended or updated what those rules are. The 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:27.040 IOC says, we're sticking with the twenty sixteen rules, and 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.560 they went on to say they are women in their passports, 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.360 and it is stated that is the case that they 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:36.240 are female, but that has not quelled the controversy, and 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.040 some big names are now publicly winging in on this. JK. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.000 Rowling tweeted a video of the fight and then wrote, 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.400 explain why you're okay with a man beating a woman 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.800 in public for your entertainment. Elon must jumped in. He 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.440 shared a post from swimmer Riley gains You remember him 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.880 and so Riley Gaines put out on social media. Men 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:01.480 don't belong in women's sports, Elon said absolute utely and 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.600 re shared it. Gaines is actually trying to get a 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.840 hashtag trending hashtag. I stand with Angela Karini. That's the 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:12.760 Italian boxer. Karini has really kind of stayed neutral in this. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.920 She said, no one is to judge this match. I 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.600 am not a referee, but her prime minister, Italy's prime 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.560 minister also getting involved, saying that Italians have had a 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.000 strong reaction. She called the fight a match that did 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.640 not seem on equal footing. She went on to say 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:33.400 athletes who have male genetic characteristics should not be admitted 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.720 to female competitions. 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.240 It's a mess. I mean, what are you supposed to 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.840 do here. I'm supposed to walk up to a woman 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.640 competing in the Olympics and tell her she needs to 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.560 prove to me to me and a member of the 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.920 public that she's a woman. If the IOC says that 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.800 these folks are eligible, I don't know what else I'm 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.120 supposed to do. And do you talk about the IBA, 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:03.240 the boxing organization that disqualified her from the World Boxing Championships. Well, 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.280 people take that with a grain of salt, because that 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.760 organization is run out of Russia by a Russian and 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.600 backed by a Russian company, and they only disqualified this 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:17.840 Algerian boxer after she beat a Russian boxer, So that 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:19.280 is being thrown into it. 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.520 And look, I'm not a scientist. I have no idea 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:27.399 about how you determine someone's gender if they're born a female. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.080 But from what I've read, you can as a woman 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.200 have elevated levels of testosterone and still be a woman. 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.120 Everyone has different levels, so it's just unclear what that 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.919 test should or is to be able to determine that. 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.359 It's very confusing and this isn't going away. Cali's next 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.480 match is on Saturday against Hungary's Anna Luka Hamori. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.640 Who didn't help the situation at all. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:53.800 She claims she's ready for the fight. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.919 She and she's well, I'm saying if I beat a 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.359 man all the better, Like that's not helping to But 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:05.280 I don't know what this is. That Boxing Association president saying, 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.399 based on DNA tests, we have identified a number of 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:13.240 athletes who try to trick their colleagues by posing as women, 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.760 and it said it proved they have X. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.000 And why chromosomes. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:23.439 I don't know. I'm just it's The problem is this 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:28.239 has now delved into a nasty, heated public and very 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.960 much social media debate where people are saying nasty things, 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.960 and there's been a lot of talk about trans athletes 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.160 and how we should handle fair play. But they tried 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.240 to make clear this is not a trans. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.160 Exactly so, and if you look online, they will actually 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:46.119 call these two boxers transgender, and they'll go so far 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.399 as to call them men. Neither of those things have 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:52.400 been proven at all. In fact, they've categorically denied that 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.000 either one of those things are true. 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.840 And this is one where we encourage everybody, please please 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:02.120 do not get your information right now on this from 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.000 social media in a post that somebody made, because there's 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.440 so much misinformation out there and just some hateful language, 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:13.440 awful language that doesn't really have any place in this conversation. 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.919 The conversation is worth having, absolutely, but not there. So 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.280 I encourage you. Just don't believe everything you're reading on 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:20.200 somebody social media. 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:25.600 We've said this in different stories, but as journalists, and 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:30.160 we are journalists who have been covering the news for 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:34.720 almost three decades, and where you get your sourcing and 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.159 where you get your news from matters. So just please 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:42.359 remember it, especially on a story like this, and do 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.919 your research and look and see where your information is 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.080 coming from and where they're getting their information from. It's 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.840 so so important before we form opinions. 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.840 That is, we know it's Olympics and always going to 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.000 have some controversies. These stories you pop about you you 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:57.919 said this morning you were sitting now we putting notes together. 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.040 You said, there's so much stuff. 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:04.480 There's so much to talk about. Oh my good, bad, ugly, 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:09.119