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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a super holiday get away weekend. Oh we're

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Speaker 2: one point one million people, John will pass through lax

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Speaker 2: this long holiday week I'm getting weapon. Do you know,

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Speaker 2: fascinating trivia. Yesterday was supposed to be the busiest day

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Speaker 2: I dig the freaking story. Carey, who cares? I obviously do.

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Speaker 2: No one listens to your news anyway. You know that

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Speaker 2: last night. No, I was having fun and you ruined

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Speaker 2: Good god, we did this to bother John and now

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Speaker 1: How's that for our turnaround. I'm the only one having

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Speaker 2: But Senate Bill fourteen, which would add sex trafficking of

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Speaker 2: Appropriations Committee. This happened in the last hour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this story came across at twelve seventeen.

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Speaker 2: This is a saga that began months ago because when

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Speaker 2: So the Times and actually listen to this paragraph. Democrats

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Speaker 1: Right, they know the dumb cluck writer at the La Times,

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Speaker 1: She did exactly as her masters ordered her to do.

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Speaker 2: More coming up, Johnny Ken kf I AM six point

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Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from K

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Speaker 1: We're on the radio from month until four and after

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Speaker 2: All right, this is how idiotic Sacramento really is. I

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Speaker 1: So now there's no death penalty in California, and there's

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Speaker 2: I want to see President Newsom. But bring it on.

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Speaker 1: They got they got the TV commercials loaded up and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? All right again, we're gonna stand by.

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Speaker 2: Well, it hasn't passed the Assembly yet, but.

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Speaker 1: I know, but no, they will. She already drank three

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Speaker 2: Keep an eye on her eye. I have some concerns.

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Speaker 2: Uh about your another topic. You know what's missing from

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Speaker 2: It is so CHP made a big deal out of this,

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Speaker 2: It says you're the location where they got all this

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Speaker 2: In fact, they take it to this ring which sells

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Speaker 1: So they opened up their own store in this warehouse building.

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Speaker 2: That's what it looks like. They didn't say where they

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Speaker 2: People stole it for them and brought it to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: What, very few identities on the people they've caught. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: A small Washington DC website had the story had the name,

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Speaker 1: Nobody's broadcasting it, nobody's writing about it. Just the Washington

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Speaker 2: four is the one that's going to release the murderers.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter whether or not you got the death penalty

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Speaker 2: or life in prison. With that parole. There is a

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Speaker 2: bill it's making its way through Sacramento, which would allow you,

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Speaker 2: if you committed the murder before the date in nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety and you've served twenty five years, to get your freedom.

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Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, what I think is

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Speaker 2: the most extreme example of the old guy who says,

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Speaker 2: don't bother me with your new contraptions. I'm fine with

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Speaker 2: what I have. Johnny KENKFI AM six forty live everywhere iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: App You're listening to John and Ken on demand from

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Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: Round the radio from one until four, and then after

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Speaker 1: four o'clock the iHeart app for the John and Ken

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Speaker 1: on demand podcast after four o'clock and then all we

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Speaker 1: get long, you can.

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Speaker 2: Listen to what you missed today. All right, well, we

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Speaker 2: already told you. Senate Bill fourteen get out of this

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Speaker 2: Appropriations committee in Sacramento, a big step because it now

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Speaker 2: will be voted on by the full Assembly. That's the

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Speaker 2: one that's really gonna go after the child sex traffickers.

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Speaker 2: The other bill that advanced, not so good, Senate Bill

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Speaker 2: ninety four, that's gonna let the murderers out, not kidding him.

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Speaker 2: If you committed murder and got life in prison without

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Speaker 2: parole or or even the death penalty, and it's been

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Speaker 2: twenty five years that you've served and it happened between

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Speaker 2: before June of nineteen ninety the murder, you have a

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Speaker 2: shot at freedom. We're gonna talk about that with assemblymen.

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Speaker 2: Bill A. Saly after the news.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, act so there is no murder, no matter how vicious.

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Speaker 1: That guarantees life without parole none and a bill of

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Speaker 1: course worked with prosecutors. He was a prosecutor, so he'll

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Speaker 1: never have to say about this. That's why we should

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Speaker 1: have killed a lot of these murderers and people going

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Speaker 1: in the life of that parole. No, we told you

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Speaker 1: years ago this was what they were gonna do. They

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Speaker 1: were gonna they were gonna chip away at life without

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Speaker 1: parole from the inside.

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Speaker 2: So I saw a story last night when my jaw

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Speaker 2: kind of dropped. It's about a man that, for seventy

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Speaker 2: years has lived with an in an iron lung. The

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Speaker 2: iron lung is an air tight capsule covers everything but

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Speaker 2: your head. It sucks oxygen through negative pressure, forcing the

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Speaker 2: lungs to expand to allow you to breathe. The man

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Speaker 2: that's been in the iron lung for seventy years unfortunately

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Speaker 2: contracted polio. See the value of vaccines, right, Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He was born in nineteen forty six. In nineteen fifty two,

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Speaker 2: he contracted polio just six years old. His name is

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Speaker 2: Paul Alexander. Guinness World Records has declared him the longest

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Speaker 2: iron lung patient ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there aren't.

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Speaker 2: You don't imagine a life like that, But he's lived.

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Speaker 2: He's seventy six years old and he's gotten like a

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Speaker 2: law degree. Well, he's actually done a lot with his life.

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Speaker 1: No, And that's another part of the story here, that

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Speaker 1: he went to he graduated high school in college and

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Speaker 1: he got a law degree, and he practiced law for

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Speaker 1: several decades and wrote a memoir. And well, the whole

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Speaker 1: time he's in the iron lung. And so I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear about somebody's obstacles in life to why

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Speaker 1: they can't work for a living and they can't live

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Speaker 1: at a house or afford a house or a ford

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Speaker 1: rent or whatever there is. If this guy and the

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Speaker 1: iron lung could lie there for seventy years and get

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Speaker 1: all this accomplished.

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Speaker 2: They don't make them anymore. The last time they made

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Speaker 2: the iron lung was in the nineteen sixties. But he's

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Speaker 2: still hanging on to this one, and it's clanking away.

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Speaker 2: He refuses to get another hole in his throat. If

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Speaker 2: he did that, he could use a newer device, which

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Speaker 2: would probably allow him a little more freedom than this contraption. Really,

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Speaker 2: his head is popping out, But he just didn't want

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Speaker 2: to do that, And in an interview he did, he

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Speaker 2: just said, I got used to this contraption. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to stay with it.

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Speaker 1: But all you see is his little headsticking out in

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Speaker 1: the end. I mean, this is a huge tank.

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Speaker 2: It's like being in a strange space capsule with just

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Speaker 2: your head sticking at the top. You see what he's got.

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Speaker 2: There's like a mirror at the top, or maybe it's

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Speaker 2: a screen for going online or something. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's like a like a mirror. Did you see.

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Speaker 1: It as a mirror?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so I guess it requires a lot of care.

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Speaker 2: He's had some financial problems and it's even believe that

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Speaker 2: he was ripped off by people who pretended to help him.

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Speaker 2: He requires round the clock care at a facility in Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 2: He struggles to maintain his iron lung, afford healthcare, find

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Speaker 2: housing that accommodates his needs. He lives in a small,

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Speaker 2: one room apartment that does not even have a window,

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Speaker 2: according to a GoFundMe plea that was put up last year. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you know polio vaccines work. If you hear any

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Speaker 1: morons who are across the board anti vaccine. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: there's all because it attacks the motororns on the spiner

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Speaker 1: in the spinal cord, so the central nervous system and

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Speaker 1: the muscles can't speak to one another.

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Speaker 2: Now he can get out there for brief periods because

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Speaker 2: it says he's learned to breathe, to briefly breathe outside

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Speaker 2: the iron mung Frog breathing, a technique uses the throat

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Speaker 2: muscles to force air pass the vocal cords, allowing the

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Speaker 2: patient to swallow oxygen one mouthful at a time, pushing

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Speaker 2: it down the throat into the lungs. Imagine that, Imagine

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Speaker 2: just not really being able to breathe. That's really hardships.

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Speaker 1: I want to yell about this guy to the vagrants

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Speaker 1: laying on the sidewalk. That's right, don't tell me your story.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy laying in an iron lung for seventy years.

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Speaker 1: You want to go meet him, want to hear his story.

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Speaker 2: He went to school, got a law degree. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: he's not injecting meth. All right. When we come back

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Speaker 2: another of the in the chapter of Insidious Legislation and Sacramento,

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Speaker 2: the focus will be on one known as Senate Bill

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Speaker 2: ninety four. It's the work of a state centat and

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Speaker 2: I think we threw in the dumpster a couple of

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Speaker 2: months ago. Dave Corties, this is going to allow murderers freedom.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. If they got the death penalty, doesn't matter,

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Speaker 2: if they got life in prison with that parole. If

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Speaker 2: they meet certain qualifications, they can apply for freedom. As

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Speaker 2: we said, clearing out the prisoners, including the murderers, Johnny

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