WEBVTT - Tech News: Facebook Gets Meta

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>joth In Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and I love all things tech. It is time

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<v Speaker 1>for the tech news for Tuesday, November two, twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna start off with some old news because

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do a news episode last Thursday. And as predicted Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>the company has changed its name to Meta, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much in line with what The Verge predicted a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago. Meta in this case is a

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<v Speaker 1>reference to the concept of a metaverse, which in turn

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<v Speaker 1>we typically envision as being an implementation of such things

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<v Speaker 1>as virtual reality and augmented reality, and a persistent online

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<v Speaker 1>virtual world where you can behave as if it were

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<v Speaker 1>the real world. You can, you know, do things like shopping,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have entertainment. Essentially, you have this online, persistent

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<v Speaker 1>world that in some ways mirrors the real one, except

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<v Speaker 1>of course you're not burdened by reality. Right, So in

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<v Speaker 1>the metaverse, you might have an entire social structure that

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<v Speaker 1>exists inside this virtual world, and you might have some

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<v Speaker 1>elements of that environment spill out into the real world

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<v Speaker 1>through stuff like augmented reality technology. So in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an extension of the concept of social networks, only

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<v Speaker 1>they become even more immersive. Anyway, I'm sure you're all

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<v Speaker 1>aware of the name change by now. There's very little

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<v Speaker 1>chance that I'm telling you this for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Meta is still going to face a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of questions from political leaders around the world. A name

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<v Speaker 1>change is not magically going to make all the critics

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<v Speaker 1>who want to split the company up say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook's gone now. I mean, Facebook the platform is still there,

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<v Speaker 1>but Facebook the company's gone. We're not, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's going to happen. And I suspect as leaders

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<v Speaker 1>get their heads wrapped around what a metaverse actually is

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<v Speaker 1>and how it would enable a company like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>former Facebook now Meta to track even more information about people.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to be more questions, or at least I

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<v Speaker 1>hope there will be. NBC News reports that an internal

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<v Speaker 1>blog post at what was then Facebook and now as Meta.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just going to be tiresome anyway, It revealed

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<v Speaker 1>that the company was actively pursuing opportunities to market to kids,

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<v Speaker 1>kids as young as six years old. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>blog post identified five different age groups that the company

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, kind of delineating as targets. They had

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<v Speaker 1>the six to nine age group, ten to twelve, thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen, sixteen to seventeen, and then everybody else. And

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<v Speaker 1>I should add that this blog post specifically mentioned stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like making sure the company protected the security and privacy

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<v Speaker 1>of users, So at least there's that like this was

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<v Speaker 1>an internal blog post, it wasn't outward facing. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they even mentioned that we need to do this

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<v Speaker 1>in a responsible way is at least somewhat comforting, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say this is more grist for the

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<v Speaker 1>mill when it comes to scrutinizing this enormous company and

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<v Speaker 1>it's various strategies involving user experiences and more importantly, how

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<v Speaker 1>the company generates revenue based on user behaviors and how

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<v Speaker 1>much data they are collecting from users. Now, as I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned last week, the Facebook platform itself has seen a

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<v Speaker 1>decline in use among younger folks, and so this is

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<v Speaker 1>likely part of the company's overall strategy to find ways

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<v Speaker 1>to attract new users, not necessarily to the Facebook platform,

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<v Speaker 1>although I'm sure that's part of it. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>to the company's services. Overall, Facebook reps defended the blog post.

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<v Speaker 1>They argued that really, any business that interfaces with the

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<v Speaker 1>public is always trying to attract new and younger people

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Like, if you get people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to connect with your product at a young age, you

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<v Speaker 1>might have a customer for life. So in that sense, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that really does make sense. And in fact, Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>said the only thing that would be newsworthy is if

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<v Speaker 1>the company wasn't doing this. However, I would add it

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<v Speaker 1>is a little creepy when you think that as a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of preventive measure, Facebook said, an age limit on

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<v Speaker 1>who could have a Facebook or an Instagram profile, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be thirteen or older. And that seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a tacit acknowledgement that the services the company

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<v Speaker 1>provides might not be a good fit for younger users.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you take the blog post in concert with

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<v Speaker 1>the thousands of other documents that have emerged thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>whistleblower Francis Hogan, it all starts to look a little sinister.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I guess companies that are you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the business of dealing with you know, the average consumer

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<v Speaker 1>are always looking to find a way of tapping into

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<v Speaker 1>that at a young or age. But um, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's always good. I mean I could easily point

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<v Speaker 1>to the case of say, cigarette companies using cartoonish mascots

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<v Speaker 1>to market their cigarettes and how that is not really

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. But we'll leave it for here. Now

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about data tracking for a second. So Apple

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<v Speaker 1>introduced the App Tracking Transparency Policy last year, and this

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<v Speaker 1>policy sets firm rules that iOS apps must follow. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>apps that appear on Apple's app stores have to follow

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<v Speaker 1>these rules or else Apple won't carry them. So, if

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<v Speaker 1>the app is tracking data in any way, it first

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<v Speaker 1>has to request user permission to do so and to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about which types of of data it intends to track.

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<v Speaker 1>So if a user says no thanks, then the app

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<v Speaker 1>is not allowed to track that data. To say that

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<v Speaker 1>some companies were upset about this would be underplaying it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Facebook went so far as to take out

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<v Speaker 1>a full page newspaper ad arguing against the policy, saying

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<v Speaker 1>that you know it would interfere with the Facebook apps

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<v Speaker 1>performance and give users the mistaken impression that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook is collecting loads of private information or to monetize

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<v Speaker 1>the info which was actually the correct implication because that

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<v Speaker 1>is what the company does well. Now. The Financial Times

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<v Speaker 1>reports that companies like you know, Meta Slash, Facebook and

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<v Speaker 1>Snap and Twitter and YouTube lost nearly ten billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>last year due to this policy, and by lost, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they weren't able to capitalize on user data for

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<v Speaker 1>those users who opted out of the data tracking. Snap

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<v Speaker 1>was hit particularly hard, which is not a big surprise

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<v Speaker 1>because Snap does not exist outside of the mobile experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Right There's no desktop version for Snapchat, so that would

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<v Speaker 1>explain how that company was hit particularly hard because there

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<v Speaker 1>no other platform for it to depend upon. Uh. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple itself has been found to engage in practices that

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<v Speaker 1>break its own rules, so you know, I'm not giving

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<v Speaker 1>Apple a full pass on this one. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the policy is a good one, but only if everybody

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<v Speaker 1>be behaves and everyone follows it, you know, Apple included.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does also show a couple of things. And one,

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<v Speaker 1>it shows that your data is valuable, so you should

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<v Speaker 1>think about treating it as such, that it has value,

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<v Speaker 1>and so think about that, you know, take value in it.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who have proposed systems that would require

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<v Speaker 1>companies to pay folks directly in order to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to use their data. That's how valuable. It is. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that those policies have actually, you know, seen any real traction,

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<v Speaker 1>because companies obviously have a strong incentive to resist that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it shows how how valuable the data is too.

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<v Speaker 1>This shows these apps are tracking you in tons of

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<v Speaker 1>different ways, and those ways might relate back to the

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<v Speaker 1>way the app functions, So there could be some legit

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<v Speaker 1>arguments that the data tracking is necessary in order for

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<v Speaker 1>you to have full functionality of the app. But this

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<v Speaker 1>also reminds us that our phones are constantly data gathering machines.

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<v Speaker 1>Sin since we pretty much take them everywhere we go,

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<v Speaker 1>it means we're always being tracked, and the stuff we

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<v Speaker 1>do is being tracked. The stuff we look up on

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<v Speaker 1>our phones is being tracked. Just good to remember, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun times Up in Oregon, in the Pacific Northwest in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, there's a bit of a brew haha

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<v Speaker 1>going on regarding Google and its use of water near

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<v Speaker 1>the city of the Dowells. That's two words, It's the

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<v Speaker 1>and dows d A L L. E. S. Actually had

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<v Speaker 1>to look up how to say that so I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get the pronunciation wrong. Google has data centers in the

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<v Speaker 1>Dowells on a site of an old aluminum smelting facility

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<v Speaker 1>that closed down years ago, like in the eighties, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and they built data centers there, and the company plans

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<v Speaker 1>to build a couple more of those massive data centers. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, buildings that are filled with computers that are

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<v Speaker 1>running all the time get pretty hot and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep computers from overheating or else stuff breaks down.

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<v Speaker 1>So as part of this plan, Google negotiated with the

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<v Speaker 1>city council of the Dolls and they got a new

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<v Speaker 1>deal when it comes to water rights. You know, Google

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<v Speaker 1>uses water to pull heat away from these computers and

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<v Speaker 1>then through a heat exchanger, cools the heated water back

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<v Speaker 1>down and can recirculate it through the system in order

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<v Speaker 1>to keep things at a good operating temperature. Although it

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<v Speaker 1>does mean that they have to occasionally bring in more water,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like a water cooled BC, only on an

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<v Speaker 1>epic scale. Anyway, this would mean Google would have to

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<v Speaker 1>collect more water from the area, and it's an area

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<v Speaker 1>that's also been hit with droughts in the recent past,

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<v Speaker 1>so this has led some residents to become a bit

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<v Speaker 1>concerned over the matter, and making it worse is that

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of water that Google wants is a secret.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the City of the Dolls, Google's request constitutes

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<v Speaker 1>a trade secret, and so the city is not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to share the information with residents. So the city council knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can't tell. According to other entities in Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>the use of water is a matter of public interest

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<v Speaker 1>and that supersedes any trade secret. Moreover, those people who

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<v Speaker 1>are concerned have pointed out that Google doesn't provide information

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<v Speaker 1>about how much water it needs because the city has

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<v Speaker 1>an information. They know how much water Google needs, and

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<v Speaker 1>that means that the city is refusing to share information

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<v Speaker 1>with the citizens of the city. The newspaper the Oregonians

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<v Speaker 1>sued to get access to that information, and a judge

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<v Speaker 1>sided with the newspaper, But now the city has countersued

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<v Speaker 1>the newspaper in order to keep the information secret. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a vote coming up on the matter, and a

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<v Speaker 1>vote that's really only open to the city council members,

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<v Speaker 1>not the public, and there's no chance that this particular

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<v Speaker 1>legal matter will be resolved before the vote happens. So things,

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<v Speaker 1>as you might imagine, are a little bit tense up

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<v Speaker 1>in the dolls. The city council says that Google's plan

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<v Speaker 1>will actually mean the more water will be provided to

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<v Speaker 1>the city, because Google will be contributing nearly thirty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to expand water services for the area. But the

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<v Speaker 1>secrecy around how much water the company needs seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be feeding into a general distrust of Google and the

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<v Speaker 1>city council, at least according to a piece I read

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<v Speaker 1>on Oregon Live dot com. We've got some more stories

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<v Speaker 1>to cover, but before we get to that, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break. Before the break, I was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Google and Oregon. I've got another Google story here, which

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<v Speaker 1>involves a worker petition that's aimed at convincing both Google

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<v Speaker 1>and Amazon to back out of a deal that the

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<v Speaker 1>companies have made with is Real. The deal is called

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<v Speaker 1>Project Nimbus, and as you might suspect with that name,

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<v Speaker 1>it involves cloud computing centers. The workers who are leading

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<v Speaker 1>the petition are two Jewish Google employees, and they're worried

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<v Speaker 1>that the cloud computing tech quote allows for further surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>of an unlawful data collection on Palestinians and facilitates expansion

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel's illegal settlements on the Palestinian land end quote,

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<v Speaker 1>and the two say that more than one thousand employees

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<v Speaker 1>have signed a petition, though the petition itself allows employees

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<v Speaker 1>to remain anonymous, and all but three have done so,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's obviously hard to verify. According to the Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>Telegraphic Agency, the cloud computing contract has clauses in it

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<v Speaker 1>that are meant to prevent Amazon and Google from pulling

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<v Speaker 1>out of the deal, even if they're under the threat

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<v Speaker 1>of boycott, so it's questionable whether the petition will make

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<v Speaker 1>any headway, though it does bring more attention to the project.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, I talked about how Hurts, the rental car company,

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<v Speaker 1>had signed a deal with Tesla to buy one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand Tesla vehicles by the end of next year. Well

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk then went out and tweeted that the ink

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<v Speaker 1>has not even been put to paper yet, that no

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<v Speaker 1>contract has been signed, which, hey, you know, woopsie, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the initial news about that deal pushed Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>stock value up more than ten percent, like around twelve

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<v Speaker 1>percent actually, so that means if you had Tesla stock,

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<v Speaker 1>you potentially could have seen your wealth increase pretty dramatically

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<v Speaker 1>before Musk revealed that the deal hadn't actually been done yet,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, elon Musk and the stock market, there

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<v Speaker 1>are all these stories that don't paint Musk in a

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<v Speaker 1>very good light in the way he communicates things. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, to be fair, if the contract wasn't signed

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<v Speaker 1>and someone claimed that it was, it's not really on

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<v Speaker 1>Musk's shoulders this time. But yeah, stock markets are fun,

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<v Speaker 1>and by fun I mean we all play pretend and

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<v Speaker 1>hoping you make money. A Hurts, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>still communicating as though this has been a done deal

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<v Speaker 1>for some time. In fact, the company had told the

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<v Speaker 1>BBC that Hurts is already receiving deliveries of Tesla vehicles,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's kind of weird, right. Hurts was directly asked

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<v Speaker 1>by the BBC if the contract was in fact signed,

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<v Speaker 1>and a rep said, oh, we don't comment on business

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<v Speaker 1>dealings to the press. Yeah, okay. Tesla is also opening

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<v Speaker 1>up a program in the Netherlands that will help people

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<v Speaker 1>with e vs UH for the first time evs, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, electric vehicles for the first time. Tesla is

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<v Speaker 1>opening up ten supercharger locations in the Netherlands to people

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<v Speaker 1>who are driving any type of electric vehicle not just

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla vehicles. Previously, you needed to be driving a Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>in order to make use of the supercharger stations. Now

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in the Netherlands with an electric vehicle can establish

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<v Speaker 1>an account with Tesla through the company's mobile app uh A,

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<v Speaker 1>establish a payment method in the app, and they use

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<v Speaker 1>a selection called charge your Non Tesla, which will then

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<v Speaker 1>give them directions to a participating supercharger station and they

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<v Speaker 1>pay through the app. There are a few other steps

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<v Speaker 1>for non Tesla drivers. The supercharger stations were made to

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<v Speaker 1>be compatible with Tesla vehicles, and with a Tesla car,

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<v Speaker 1>it's essentially plug in play. You plug it in, it

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<v Speaker 1>does everything on its own. It automatically shuts off when

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<v Speaker 1>it's done charging. But for non Tesla evs, users will

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<v Speaker 1>actually have to indicate in the app when the charging

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<v Speaker 1>station should begin charging the car and when it should stop.

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<v Speaker 1>It will also cost non Tesla drivers a bit more

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<v Speaker 1>to do it than Tesla owners will have to pay. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>will we see the same sort of program rolled out

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. In order for that to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>we would need some special adapters because here in the States,

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla has proprietary connectors that means no other EV company

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<v Speaker 1>makes a port that fits the Tesla a charging system,

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<v Speaker 1>but the company has indicated that this is the way

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<v Speaker 1>of the future. So I suspect we'll see Tesla offering

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<v Speaker 1>up adapters, you know, for a fee, of course, so

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<v Speaker 1>that EV drivers in the US will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of supercharger locations whenever the company chooses to

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<v Speaker 1>make that available, and that will be a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>because it will extend the driving range of electric vehicles effectively,

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't have to search around for a charging

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<v Speaker 1>station if you have an app that tells you where

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<v Speaker 1>the next one is, that's really useful. Back in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand sixteen, Dell, the computer company that was made famous

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<v Speaker 1>in my childhood with the marketing phrase dude, you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a Dell, merged with a company that's called e m C.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a result of that merger, the virtualization and

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<v Speaker 1>cloud computing company vm ware essentially came along for the ride,

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<v Speaker 1>with Dell gaining more than eight percent ownership of vm ware.

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<v Speaker 1>But over the last few years, Dell has begun to

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<v Speaker 1>spin off some of its acquired properties, mostly in an

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<v Speaker 1>effort to manage debt. Vm Where is the latest of

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<v Speaker 1>those spinoffs, and now Dell has divested itself of its

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<v Speaker 1>more than ownership of vm Ware, and vm Ware is

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<v Speaker 1>an independent company. Vm Ware's CEO UM released a statement

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<v Speaker 1>that says, quote as a standalone company, we now have

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<v Speaker 1>the flexibility to partner even more deeply with all cloud

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<v Speaker 1>and on premises infrastructure companies to create a better foundation

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<v Speaker 1>that drives results for our customers. Today's move will strengthen

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<v Speaker 1>our mission to be the Switzerland of the cloud computing

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<v Speaker 1>industry end quote which cool. Last month I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how US telecom companies are to remove Huahwei equipment from

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<v Speaker 1>their networks, which is a directive from the United States government.

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<v Speaker 1>Last Friday, that effort began in earnest as the FCC

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<v Speaker 1>launched a reimbursement program. This will allow telecom companies to

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<v Speaker 1>seek financial assistance to actually make this happen, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty tricky thing to do, particularly if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid interruptions in service when you've got a network

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<v Speaker 1>with all these pieces that are working together. Removing pieces

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<v Speaker 1>after they're all integrated is not the easiest thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the world to do. However, once these companies get a check, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the timers starts for them, because the rules state that

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<v Speaker 1>the companies that receive financial assistance have a year to

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<v Speaker 1>remove network components once those checks come in. These are

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<v Speaker 1>networks components supplied by Huawei as well as a second

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese company called Zte corp Or Corporation. And you might wonder, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why is this even happening in the first place, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's largely concerned about national security. China has been responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for and home to many surveillance and espionage efforts against

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<v Speaker 1>other nations, particularly the United States, and it's pretty well

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<v Speaker 1>known that China's government funds hacker groups to target US

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<v Speaker 1>based businesses and institutions. And so the thinking goes, it

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<v Speaker 1>might not be a great idea to rely upon critical

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<v Speaker 1>network infrastructure that came out of China. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's possible that Chinese companies have built in ways

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<v Speaker 1>in which these companies could perform espionage duties on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of the Chinese government. Um And I should add that

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<v Speaker 1>the companies deny that this would be the case, But then,

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<v Speaker 1>considering the amount of influence China's government has on Chinese companies,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a little difficult to accept that claim.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a few more stories, but we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>one more break and we'll be right back. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>left off in China. Let's go back to China, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where Yahoo has called it quits. And some of

0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you might even be surprised that Yahoo is still a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because that company had its own dramatic rise and fall

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<v Speaker 1>and sort of was scavenged from the wreckage. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was operating in China. But over the years, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>since like two thousand thirteen or so, Yeahoo had been

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<v Speaker 1>shutting down services in that country, and now it has

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<v Speaker 1>ended all operations in China, stating that the move is

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<v Speaker 1>quote in recognition of the increasingly challenging business and legal

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<v Speaker 1>environment end quote, which is a very polite way of

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<v Speaker 1>saying that it's incredibly hard to do business in China

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<v Speaker 1>for many reasons, especially in the tech industry, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons get pretty ugly when you start digging down.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, China's government has been passing legislation that puts

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<v Speaker 1>tight restrictions on tech companies and limiting their services dramatically.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of these regulations restrict how and when Chinese citizens

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<v Speaker 1>can access tech services. China's government states it's cracking down

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<v Speaker 1>on practices that could tend towards monopolistic control of a

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<v Speaker 1>particular industry or field. And I can get behind the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that we should not allow monopolies to happen, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of China, it's hard not to view

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<v Speaker 1>the government itself as wanting to hold monopolistic control of

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much everything, at least as far as what citizens

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<v Speaker 1>can access. So in other words, I guess there's not

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<v Speaker 1>really any good guys here. And while China has an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous population and thus a potentially huge market, these increased

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<v Speaker 1>regulations and restrictions have convinced more than a few companies

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<v Speaker 1>to abandon operations in China as it has started to

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<v Speaker 1>get to be more trouble than what it's worth, which

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<v Speaker 1>is mind blowing, right. You think about more than a

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<v Speaker 1>billion people live there and for that to be more

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<v Speaker 1>trouble than what it's worth and to pull out, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of trouble, y'all, because that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>money left on the table. Gamers who love hedgehogs might

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<v Speaker 1>be excited to learn that Sega, the Japanese video game

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<v Speaker 1>company famous for Sonic in the Hedgehog, announced it was

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<v Speaker 1>forming a strategic alliance with Microsoft by leveraging Microsoft's Azure program.

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<v Speaker 1>So Azure is a cloud computing service and it's typically

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<v Speaker 1>used to develop and manage apps. Sega's plan is to

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<v Speaker 1>form a new process when it comes to game development.

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<v Speaker 1>Sega has an initiative called super Game and this is

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. It's really an incredible effort to overhaul

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<v Speaker 1>how the company i dates and develops games and to

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<v Speaker 1>tap into the potential of five G connectivity. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>been the tendency toward cloud gaming over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, and what was at first a really jan

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<v Speaker 1>Kee experiences gradually evolved and Sega is banking on the

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<v Speaker 1>gaming of the future to be largely mobile and connected,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the company is leaning on a cloud based

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<v Speaker 1>service like Azure, which makes sense. The website nicaia Asia

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<v Speaker 1>reports that Nintendo will produce twenty fewer Nintendo Switch consoles

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<v Speaker 1>for fiscal year one than was originally predicted. And for Nintendo,

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<v Speaker 1>the fiscal year ends in March, so March. Of the

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<v Speaker 1>reason for the decline isn't due to decreased demand, but

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<v Speaker 1>rather to the ongoing semiconductor chip shortage. The original plan

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<v Speaker 1>was for Nintendo to produce as many as thirty million

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<v Speaker 1>Switch consoles, but the final number will be closer to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four million. And this is a pretty tough story.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the company has seen declining sales of the Switch,

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<v Speaker 1>but the demand for the console is still super high.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means the reason for the decline in sales

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<v Speaker 1>is largely issues with production. If the company could just

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<v Speaker 1>ramp up production, those sales numbers would likely be going

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<v Speaker 1>in the opposite direction. This is a strong example of

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<v Speaker 1>how supply chain issues can have huge impacts on company performance,

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<v Speaker 1>not just for video game consoles, but for everything from

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<v Speaker 1>computers to graphics cards to cars. In News of the Obvious,

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<v Speaker 1>the Squid cryptocurrency, supposedly tying into the popular Squid game

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<v Speaker 1>TV series from Korea has turned out to be a scam. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I say that it's news of the obvious because when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to red flags, the Squid cryptocurrency really took

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<v Speaker 1>the cake. For one thing, you could buy squid currency,

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<v Speaker 1>but you couldn't sell it. That's kind of weird, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I Mean then you're like, well, how is this a commodity?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how is it an actual cryptocurrency? If you

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<v Speaker 1>can only exchange it in one direction with real currency

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<v Speaker 1>for the squid based currency. That should have been a

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<v Speaker 1>huge red flag right away. On top of that, the

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<v Speaker 1>website promoting squid said the crypto was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>used in an online game that was inspired by the

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<v Speaker 1>TV series where people play various childlike games but for

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<v Speaker 1>very very high stakes, So you could purchase these cryptocurrency tokens,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the idea was he would use these tokens

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<v Speaker 1>inside this online game. But the site also that was

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<v Speaker 1>promoting this also had tons of spelling errors in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that at least suggested that the people who were

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<v Speaker 1>behind it were not being terribly careful in setting it up,

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<v Speaker 1>which is another big red flag. Well, the creators of

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<v Speaker 1>this supposed cryptocurrency took the money and then they ran.

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<v Speaker 1>The value had gone up to nearly three thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>per squid unit, and that's when the scam artists pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the plug. They pulled all their money out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>probably fearing that their ruse would be discovered before they

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<v Speaker 1>could cash out, and then the value of squid went

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<v Speaker 1>from being nearly three grand a unit to a big

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<v Speaker 1>old fat goose egg that is zero. So the con artists.

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<v Speaker 1>They made off with a couple of million dollars of

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<v Speaker 1>real money. Keep in mind, this is like a fake cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not like they were able to cash out

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<v Speaker 1>their cryptocurrency and get all that value back. The value,

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<v Speaker 1>or the perceived value anyway, was probably in the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of not hundreds of millions of dollars, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just took the real money and ran with it. So

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<v Speaker 1>this was a heck of an attack of opportunity. The

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<v Speaker 1>hucksters tapped into a love of a popular TV series,

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<v Speaker 1>the desire to virtually play in Squid Game, which I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've seen the show, you would know that the

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<v Speaker 1>only way you would want to play is virtually and

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<v Speaker 1>also depended upon the general ignorance that folks have about cryptocurrency. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope none of you got pulled into this scam now,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case it did happen to you, Like that sucks,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't feel like terrible about it. I have done

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<v Speaker 1>some monumentally dumb things in the past when my enthusiasm

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<v Speaker 1>got the better of me, where I got so excited

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<v Speaker 1>about something I failed to really think about what I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing, and I ended up paying the price later.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am not immune to this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to suggest that I'm above it all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why I actually mentioned critical thinking so often in

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<v Speaker 1>this this podcast. It's not just to tell you to

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<v Speaker 1>use critical thinking. It's also to remind me that I

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<v Speaker 1>need to do the same. Finally, do you remember the

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<v Speaker 1>rewind videos that YouTube used to make. They started doing

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<v Speaker 1>them in two thousand eleven, crafting ah from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>eleven two thousand eighteen. It was kind of a montage

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<v Speaker 1>set to music. They would feature some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>popular YouTube creators and channels in a video celebrating the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would have like a loose thematic link between

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<v Speaker 1>the creators, often grouping tons of people who otherwise never

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<v Speaker 1>interacted with each other. They just all made popular videos,

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<v Speaker 1>all being like in a bus or something. Um well,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't do one in because, you know, was a

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<v Speaker 1>total bust. Plus getting a bunch of people together for

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<v Speaker 1>a complicate did choreograph video shoot probably sounded like a

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<v Speaker 1>bad idea during a pandemic. Now YouTube says that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do rewind videos moving forward. It is made

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<v Speaker 1>its last one. By the way, the two thousand uh

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen rewind video was slightly different from the ones from

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eleven to two thousand eighteen. That's because two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eighteen was received so poorly. It became the most

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<v Speaker 1>down voted video of all time within one week of

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<v Speaker 1>it being up, largely because there were certain people who

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<v Speaker 1>were left out of the video. Some of them I

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<v Speaker 1>think should have been left out of the video because

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<v Speaker 1>they are reprehensible people. But they still have lots and

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<v Speaker 1>lots and lots of fans who disagree with me, and

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<v Speaker 1>they made that disagreement known by downloding the video. So

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand nineteen they said, okay, you know what message received,

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<v Speaker 1>We're just gonna make a video that features some of

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<v Speaker 1>the videos that got the most likes. So literally, you

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<v Speaker 1>chose these videos. It's not on us have fun while

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<v Speaker 1>we're not even doing that anymore. And it's largely because

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube has grown so large and videos are so diverse

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<v Speaker 1>across so many different genres and topics that it is

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<v Speaker 1>literally impossible to make a rewind video that even represents

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<v Speaker 1>a fraction of what is going on on YouTube that

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to try and do it, unless that

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<v Speaker 1>video was, you know, eighteen hours long, and featured flashes

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<v Speaker 1>that lasted maybe a couple of seconds of each person.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't even scratch the surface. So instead YouTube says

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to leave that to individual creators to make

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<v Speaker 1>their own kind of rewind videos to be a reflection

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<v Speaker 1>on the year. But we're not gonna do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it makes sense to me, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>look at YouTube and you start to forget all the

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<v Speaker 1>different content that's on there, because like if if you're

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<v Speaker 1>like me, you start to kind of narrow in on

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<v Speaker 1>the content you like, and you your mind forgets that

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<v Speaker 1>everything else is on there too. I mean everything like

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<v Speaker 1>d I O. Y guides to critical analysis of the

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<v Speaker 1>cultural appropriation and Disney films too, comedy videos that I

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<v Speaker 1>have to admit I am too old to find funny

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<v Speaker 1>two recipe videos that are far more useful than recipes

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<v Speaker 1>you find online because you don't have to wade through

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<v Speaker 1>a novel before you get to the recipe. So I

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<v Speaker 1>understand where YouTube's coming from, but I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>have a moment of silence for rewind two thousand eleven

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<v Speaker 1>to two thousand nineteen. That's enough silence, Okay. That wraps

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